The CIA is NOTHING like Mission: Impossible
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2022
- Hot take incoming: Tom Cruise may be the best action star of all time. Likewise, Mission Impossible may be the best action series of all time. But despite the entertaining, competent, “good guy” government agent persona, Tom Cruise’s character “Ethan Hunt” would likely be a murderous psychopath in real life…
In reality, the CIA, FBI, NSA, MI6, and other clandestine agencies have a horrific track record of depraved inhumanity and downright incompetency. Let’s take a look at their dismal track records on this episode of Out of Frame.
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9:15 I think you made a small mistake in here. Just a small one
You're 100% correct.
I meant to say the East German government.
Had lines in about the SS and Stasi and edited them together just before I recorded and then did the thing where you just hear it a dozen times without even thinking a about it.
For those who didn't know and/or didn't catch the mistake:
Stasi = Secret police under the socialist German Democratic Republic.
Schutzstaffel and Gestapo were the Nazi equivalent.
Same idea, though.
@@FEEonline I agree completely... Apart from your conclusion that just because we KNOW the CIA is evil, it's better than the other agencies. It is unfortunate that you have this American exceptionalism bias throughout your videos. As the premier intelligence service, the CIA is responsible for counter intelligence and would have at least made allegations about atrocities committed by other agencies had they the proof. That you had to refer to Soviet gulags as an example of evil deeds by modern day countries is a bit... Misleading.
In fact, your videos come across a little bit... CIA evil but evil is necessary because others are more evil. I doubt any modern atrocity comes close to a million dead civilians in the middle East, but what do I know
Great Video, I see I wasn't the only one who noticed the Error about the Stasi. While formed 5 years post WW2 I'm sure like 90% of everything else in Germany at the time was full of former Nazis and whom better to run a Brutally Tyrannical Group of Psychopaths. The Stasi The Ministry for State Security, or State Security Service, commonly known as the Stasi, was the official state security service of the German Democratic Republic from 1950 to 1990. It has been described as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies to have ever existed.
Of course nobody is under the illusion that the CIA and other government agencies are like Ethan Hunt and the IMF but it's a refreshing example of the possibility of how we could be better and more heroic like Ethan and the IMF if we try and worked hard on ourselves, say what you will about 24 and Jack Bauer but despite all the torture and stuff he's still a badass heroic character that deserves his props of respect for the man is constantly put through hell to try to protect those that he love as well as in service of his country and countryman; yet he keeps getting stabbed in the back left and right by the people he serves along with those who he trust the most, I'm pretty sure if he had someone like Ethan and his team on his side if the IMF were involved and helping him save the day within the course of a day he wouldn't have to resort to such Dark and Grizzly tactics in order to stop threats, an agent like Ethan and even Burn Notice's Michael Westen and alias's Sidney bristow are and can be examples to a fictional character like Jack Bauer on how they could be better if they're given the chance!💯😁😉👍
@@scottwinters4545 Fun fact: Even the Gestapo had more respect for individual freedoms than the CIA or MI6 has ever had.
I forget where I read it, but I do recall there was an interview with an ex-CIA agent (I know, no such thing) talking about the methods they used to gain black mail and entrap "assets" into doing their bidding, and the interviewer asked if children were ever involved, and the agent just refused to answer yes/no, basically implying that nothing was off the table with the letter agencies.
I think it was a reddit AMA
Ol Jeffy Eps girlfriends father did that on behalf of Mossad, and I believe the CIA along with another nation. It was a family buisness of being goverments blackmail pawns.
We’re talking about an agency that performed mind control experiments on people without consent or knowledge in some cases. Nothing is off the table with those scumbags.
there is a big reason our guys coming home from Vietnam were labeled baby killers and its not from there actions.
Who was Epstein collecting pics and videos for? Why he and Ghislaine are portrayed as pervs but not actually what they were: pimps.
I Always thought the C.I.A was ruthless but they were competent and capable of almost anything
But it gets ever more clear that the C.I.A is better at destabilizing friendly targets that don’t expect their ally’s to betray them
It’s like the angry kid in CoD that can only get kills on his teammates because they don’t expect a friendly to shoot them
Ironically Call of duty black ops is all about governments doing shady things.
watch the episode of house md when he gets recruited into the cia you get to see just how incompatant they really are.
So Uganda just discovered 12 trillion in gold
@@charlesludwig8672”So much for military Intelligence”
Out of frame is the only reason I'm subbed to this channel. I'll be sad when it's over. I'll eagerly await the final episodes. Thank you for your contribution. Good luck in all future ventures.
Yea, this and Seamus are the only two reasons why I enjoy this channel.
after this i will probably unsubscribe the channel since I will lose the incentive 🤔
It's going to be sad to see the series go
The series is ending? Why?
@@smareng he has something other to do. Check at the end on previous video
I think the other IMF (International Monetary Fund) also try to pull off impossible missions. Except that they are really bad at it.
I still make sure that there are no ventilator shafts over my secret stuff.
Can’t have an Impostor playing merry Hell all around.
_Hey, obligatory!_
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I am so sad that Out Of Frame is ending. Out Of Frame is why I subscribed to FEE. But... I get it. Life goes on. Thank you for the incredibly insightful content you've produced and best wishes for your future endeavors! :)
What I often wonder is how much is scripted incompetence in order to reach a designated outcome. They are like parents speaking to children, and feed us what they believe we will react the most positively to, because we could not handle the truth. How much of what we "know" is simply our old dog being sent off to live on a farm?
I think most of it.
We can handle the truth, they can't handle the revolution that telling the truth will bring
The Stasi were the Intelligence, Counter-Intelligence & Internal Security for Communist East Germany. The Gestapo was Internal Security for Nazi Germany. Otherwise it was a great video.
These agencies search out and hire complete and total assholes, because that's who they require to do the jobs. That's the baseline of who makes up their staffs. To imagine that an agency staffed with such people is going to be inherently good is insane, at best you can hope for minor instances of competence, but being staffed by assholes makes even that difficult to achieve.
The OSS should have been shut down as soon as WWII was over. Secret government agencies inevitably become powerful and a blight. As to "Out of Frame" ending, I'm really sorry to hear it. I've enjoyed (and shared) every episode. Good luck on the new job!
I would say they were still needed for the cold war
@@Cecilia-ky3uw That was the excuse. However, it's fairly clear they caused more harm than good. They orchestrated the coup that removed the democratically elected leader of Iran and replaced him with the Shah. That fateful, act started a chain reaction that gave us 9/11 and the war on terror. To date, 100s of thousands have died, drove millions of refugees into Europe creating all manner of havoc. As to the cold war, the CIA contributed nothing other than nearly causing WWIII on 2 occasions. U2 flyovers told us that soviet strength was about 1/10th of what the USSR claimed (and the US fed to it's own voters to justify massive military spending).
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General Patton was right 👍
If it's a Government agency, it's bloated, inefficient, incompetent, unnecessary on most levels and generally does far more harm than good.
Movies such as these at least give us a few moments of believing that Someone, Anyone that works for the Gov, gives a shit.
The unfortunate reality is however, that if there is news of a Gov agency, it's usually not good.
It's about time people sobered up from the illusion. They've been feeding us this nonsense not for nothing.
I've been wondering how Americans would react to understanding that our "super spies" are slightly overweight bureaucrats buying lap dances for sources and driving cheap rental cars.
Man, sad to see Out of Frame is ending. Your chill rundowns always left me wanting more. Good luck in your future endeavors!
Just checking if everyone who had issues with sound (I had no problem) can hear stuff now.
It all seems to be working, yep! Thank you!
This economy is really hitting hard, some can't even afford audio.
All his peers fell into the woke abyss but we still love Tom because he never forgot why people went to the cinema.
It's a government agency. What more do you need to know?
Then it should be good at lying
To people they need to lie to
Congrats on your new job and I am going to miss Out of Frame. I have really enjoyed this series.
Regarding torture as a means of interrogation. Without corroboration or the ability to safely confirm the info as true, the subject can just say whatever he wants to make the pain stop. If he believes he’s going to die regardless if he tells the truth or not, it’s a bad position for the interrogator to be in. Also, threatening death is a risky move. Typically only can play that card once. Doing that repeatedly will have diminishing returns or an adverse effect on the interrogator’s control over the subject.
yeah, that's why at least some organizations tone it down. Did you know that the main justification for things like waterboarding etc. is a semantic one? Torture is defined as prolonged 'abuse' that inflicts physical of psychological injury. Enhanced interrogation, at least in theory, is based on the idea that people without the protections of American citizens or the Geneva conventions can be interrogated with different means, so long as the means don't cause long term-harm (a bruise might count as that). Somewhat twisted, whichever way you look at it.
The answer problem is present everywhere. Apparently the way interrogators solve it is by asking questions they know the answer to. If the guy answers truthfully, they go on to peacefully cooperate with them.
Since the ft hood shooting I've not considered any intelligence agency to be competent
On another note when are we getting an in depth look at South Park and Team America?
They're competent alright. All the failures are intentional.
Oh man I gotta say that Out of Frame is one of my favorite youtube series of all time. I'm sad to see you go
These next months will be tough to process while this channel comes to close. This channel got me inspired to make new creative content similar to your video about how the 70s are back. Great video as always!
I have asked this before but I was wondering what were the name of the music tracks used in this video. I know you mentioned it was from Premium Beats but I couldn’t seem to find them. Thanks again as always!
I’m sad to see you go and just wanted to say these videos have meant a lot over the years. Thank you and all the best in your future endeavors!
It’s really nice to have an idealogical analysis of these movies, this series has helped me be able to pick apart the entertainment! Thank you for this series, I have heavily enjoyed them!
Thanks for doing the series
Over a decade ago I decided to stop for the night at a hotel after an arduous day-long drive. I parked carelessly in front of the first hotel I found because I just wanted to quickly ask the receptionist if they have any vacancies. When I returned to the car I was scolded by some angry white guy who was backing out of the space next to mine. He was the spitting image of every Hollywood field agents after Jason Bourne(the sleazy type who gets killed early): burly, bald and driving our country's smallest compact car. I nearly called out "Whatever, CIA man!" but held my tongue.
Recently, I just discovered that there's a US army intelligence unit made up entirely by Mormons. Well, that changed how I see those little bicycle riders.
No sound
I thought there was no sound cause i joined too early...
It would be really interesting if there was a spy movie series or something that basically had the same premise as this video, where the common view of these agencies is challenged based on real events.
The paradox of the good leader is that you will inevitably have to make a choice between what is good for the state and society as a whole, and what is fair and right for the individual. No leader can escape the moral calculus of utilitarianism... and yet, if you choose the good of the many on the violation of the individual, you have guaranteed an eventual slide into the damnation of totalitarianism, because you have no respect for the individual if they exist as an obstacle to your own judgment on what is the greater good.
Heavy lies the crown.
The Americans is the most realistic depiction of how intelligence operations are. It helps that the showrunner (Joe Weisberg) was a former CIA analyst.
Man I'm really sad to hear this. I always wondered if the guy running Nerdstalgic saw your videos and ran with the same style. Sometimes I get his in-between watching your videos. Dude I'm happy for you and sad this is ending. Your breakdowns are always my favorite. I'm going to miss this series.
Out of frame has been one of my favorite series on UA-cam. Thank you for making it.
Every video of yours provides incredible introspective insights so thank you for all the content
Really gonna miss these vids 😢
Keep up the great work 👌
sad to hear this series is coming to an end, but i guess it must go the way of all good things. Thank you so much for this, I've enjoyed it thoroughly and will be eagerly awaiting for what will take its place.
Was there also a Stasi under the Nazis? I thought the Stasi was only in east germany after WW2.
Yes, the GeStapo (Geheime Staatspolizei = secret state police)
To be fair, at one point the Stasi was compared to Nazis.
I am so sad out of frame is ending, it's the only reason I subscribe to the channel, so sad. Your content is soooo amazing. Best of luck in all you do.
Sad to see Out of Frame coming to an end. There are some I disagree with or am mixed on but I like those as equally as the ones I fully agree with. Good luck with whatever you do in the future and I will give what ever comes next a shot. These provided some great distractions through a lot of hard stuff last year so thank you for that.
Thank you for all your efforts, and all your content. It’ll be sad to see you leave the out of frame behind.
Man I love how consistently good your content is. I have been watching for a couple years now, and you guys rarely miss the mark, keep going strong and providing awesome entertainment!
Giving billions in weapons to ISIS downright friendly by comparison. There are a lot of Syrian Christians who would disagree on that one.
It's all bad, but... Yes. The Soviets spent quite a lot of resources they didn't really have arming the same kinds of groups while their own people starved, and did much worse.
Don't confuse things, though. The fact that the communists were worse in most cases doesn't mean what the US agencies did wasn't terrible.
@@FEEonline In Afghanistan, the US directly funded only Northern Coalition fighters. The Pakistanis funded groups like the Taliban, though funnily enough often using American money and equipment.
Of course nobody is under the illusion that the CIA and other government agencies are like Ethan Hunt and the IMF but it's a refreshing example of the possibility of how we could be better and more heroic like Ethan and the IMF if we try and worked hard on ourselves, say what you will about 24 and Jack Bauer but despite all the torture and stuff he's still a badass heroic character that deserves his props of respect for the man is constantly put through hell to try to protect those that he love as well as in service of his country and countryman; yet he keeps getting stabbed in the back left and right by the people he serves along with those who he trust the most, I'm pretty sure if he had someone like Ethan and his team on his side if the IMF were involved and helping him save the day within the course of a day he wouldn't have to resort to such Dark and Grizzly tactics in order to stop threats, an agent like Ethan and even Burn Notice's Michael Westen and alias's Sidney Bristow are and can be examples to a fictional character like Jack Bauer on how they could be better if they're given the chance!💯😁😉👍
I agree, but that run on sentence is legendary
@@vaclavjebavy5118 LOL it's not entirely a run on sentence I put commas here and there!😂😁😉👍
@@vmaninc.761 I mean, that makes it better, because not only is it a sentence that never ends, it's also grammatically correct, which is rare in UA-cam comments!
@@vaclavjebavy5118 well thank you for the compliment! LOL💯😉😁👍
Jack Bauer is a torturer, he's not a hero. He's this twisted Fox News wet dream that was invented to justify American war crimes and mass surveillance.
Yup. No audio. 🔉
I would have loved for you to have talked about Lavon Affair, perhaps you could make a video on something like that?
Thank you for your videos. Its the reason I follow the channel.
Great video, I agreed with everything I heard you say!
Bot. This video hasn’t been out long enough for you to watch the whole thing and not only that this video is unable to be watched for some unknown reason.
As of your message this video has been out for 6 minutes so even if you did get to see it when no one else can you didn’t even watch half of the 19 minute video.
@@cheezeebutter452 I think he's joking 🤣
@@lisapop5219 oh shit fr
@@cheezeebutter452 Yeah I was joking about how there's currently nothing to hear. Sorry for the confusion.
@@SomeTomfoolery lol no that’s my bad I didn’t understand the now obvious clues 😅
Tragic to see out of frame go
CIA doesn’t like this video…
I hope you keep these videos available to watch in the future.
NOOOOOO, please let us keep this going! Out of Frame is amazing.
This series has been great don't tell me your stopping!!!!!
Is there sound? Not on my device....
0:20 truer words have never been spoking, I knew I loved this channel.
10:20
"WHAT?!!! Is that true, NSA agent on my phone?????"
"Nah, fam. Go back to looking at anime girls."
"Thanks, NSA agent on my phone!"
I am sad that this series is going to end but I am looking forward to what comes next.
This explains why we need a small government
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1:02 What's the eagle doing on top of the Mossad logo?
Shame to see Out of Frame end. I always enjoyed the very reasoned and rational approach you always take. You always try to take even-handed approach to the facts like you did here, trying to separate facts from fiction and ideology from reality. I may not have always agreed with you, but you have always made me think and reconsider what I thought was right. Best of luck on your future endeavors.
No sound, or just me?
Same for me
I have the same issue
Same
Nah bro... The CIA did it
UA-cam sometimes does that. You just need to shut off youtube and open it again and than it works again.
Once the franchise clears Jim Phelps name, I'll dip back into it.
I don't think you can criticize the Mossad for what they do. They are the organization with the most responsibility and the first time they mess up will be the last time they mess up and cost potentially millions of lives. They can't afford to lose
But that's the same shit excuse they all use. Mossad are just as criminal as the rest of them, they uphold tyranny and treat human lives as expendable. Fuck 'em.
Every Intel orgs are corrupted to some degree.
They work with the United States to destabilize Arab governments, that's pretty bad
@@sergiowinter5383 ah, I see you've drank the Kool-aid
Oof, no sound man.
Can you provide links to music you use throughout the video?
Uhhhhh it’s telling me theirs no video/stream……GAAAAASP!
Ill miss Out of Frame. I think its a very important series
8:23 If it was a poisoned dart it would have been a actual dart. Not a metal bullet.
It was neither a dart, or a bullet. It was a ball on the end of an umbrella jabbed directly into him.
@@FEEonline
Well at the given timestamp the news article cleary stated it was a "killed by poison dart fired by umbrella".
Let's dissect that shall we?
The only way to fire something is to have an ammunition with gunpowder. Much like the blunderbuss/muskets and lead balls.
I can't imagine the poison would stay in those tiny holes of the metal ball without leaking out.
Although you say "poked" The only way for them to the end of an umbrella into a person in order to inject a metal ball like that would be as if the ends of the umbrella were sharpened.
And if he truly was poked the ball would immediately roll out because it would have a massive hole it would leave as soon as it entered.
So the correct term would be injected if the ball was not enough to go into the sharpened end but not leave a protrusion large enough for it to escape.
@UCa8dl0vIOWKaGJoh8o_yz2A listen to what I said, not the referential news articles that were trying to make sense of the situation.
@@FEEonline also my previous comment says read more so you have to scroll down.
I listened to what you said word for word but it's still confusing.
If you click read more you'll understand everything.
@@StormySky48 I'm just not particularly interested in this kind of semantic nitpicking.
He got poked by an umbrella. That umbrella had an apparatus that injected a ball. The ball was laced with poison. He died. It was one example of dozens.
I dunno, man. The CIA in the Bourne series is very realistic. Morally repugnant? Check. Kills innocent people in the name of the country? Check. Incompetence? Check. In fact, Jason Bourne is pretty much a loose cannon and just wanna be left alone.
welp, time to clear space to download all the out of frame videos, though it'll suck not having all the links in the descriptions attached to the videos
What would be the fun being a Old crow. If you can be mad with power.
Video about the CIA gets muted lol
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Out of frame is ending. That makes me sad. I loved all of the movie comparisons to real life issues. This is one of very few channels that manages to speak politically the correct way with nothing but facts and logical arguments against the insanity of the world.
Unfortunately we may never get a video from OoF on the tragedies of Ruby Ridge and Waco
When you study world history and the state of the current world, the more you feel that being a school teacher is more altruistic than working for the government.
Second comment: really sad out of frame is going away. Especially with the release of jack carrs the terminal list on Amazon. Would love to hear your take on the series.
Wait what??
What !
Is all mute
It can be difficult to tell incompetence apart from malice. Government agencies have plenty of both. Either way, arming terrorists and bombing civilians are business as usual.
Those "military experts" in US intel also didn't believe Ukraine could survive 3 days under russian attack. 120 days past and UA still stands and is far from collapsing. Those guys are bunch of amateurs.
Or they were just lying, why would you ever expect them to accept tell the truth?
@@MALICEM12 I believe in incompetence more than in ability to make deceptions. Besides, it can actually be both. They lied because were to incompetent to actually find out the truth
I always assumed they worked for the International Monetary Fund (IMF)
09:27 you told Stasi. I think you meant Gestapo.
So Burn Notice was the only show to accurately depict how horrible the intelligence community is. and even they downplayed it
sound?
You only hear about the failures but never hear about the successes of these organizations. There are no rules in the game of life.
When a person fails, they get to try again, usually. When the FBI fails, the weapons they sold to the cartel are used to kill dozens and the agents involved get a reprimand at worst, and are allowed to continue engaging in activities indistinguishable from organized crime.
It's all successes for them, the question is how you define a success. If your definition is stopping bad guys, saving innocent lives, and keeping the peace, you and the letters are not on the same page. False flags probably comprise a significant chunk of their activities, and the rest is surveillance. Of who? You and me.
@@SG-df9er There are no rules when everyone is a potential enemy. But I get what you mean. Humanity is fallible. Mistakes are made.
Was the capitalized 'i' in the video title (Mission) was intentional?
Lol, no.
What about Project Chaos and the Manson Family?
Next week's headlines: "FEE content creator found dead in apparent suicide with two shots to the back of the head."
The Good Shepherd is another good movie about the CIA’s history as well…
13:10 the importance of the act can not be underestimated.
they dont prevent anything and afterwards they get even more control
Ethan Hunt works for Impossible Mission Force, not the CIA. He pwns the CIA in the first film and jumps from director to director saving the world.
DO NOT analyze this franchise. It’s not owned by Disney, so we should just be grateful.
True
Just to be factual: The Stasi was the secret service in eastern Germany and did indeed horrible things. The Gestapo was the Secret Service in the Third Reich and did inhuman things. Two different organizations in two different states. 9:20
The story of Benghazi 13 hours shows a glimpse of the "competence" of the main staff and those above them. In comparison to the men who do the dirty work (GRS, Ground Branch) who are mostly veterans with battle proven skills who are competent.
A terrible paradox of humanity: When we see corruption exposed within an agency, we lose trust in it. When we see an agency that hasn't been exposed as corrupt in many years, we place our trust in it. _It should be the other way around._
We should trust the corrupt organization, unless they aren’t shown to be corrupt at regular intervals?
@@MrNickPresley I think his point is that the corruption being exposed means that there's a level of transparency, and that the agency has the ability to self-correct and improve. If the agency isn't regularly exposed for its corruption then that just means the corruption is going undetected.
There's no sound
There's sound
You're giving the agencies the benefit of the doubt by assuming they meant to stop all the atrocities that slipped by them. Not sure they always deserve that generosity.
9:54 think lots of theme were Nazi war criminals but I see your point.
You should review Gravel Intuited. I wonder if you agree w there economic videos 👀 lol