Very calculated move on Newsom's part. This is how you get non-GOP talking points aired on FOX news who would otherwise just continue to talk incessantly about the poop map. Well done!
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! NEWSOME closed all of Cali besides big business!
I live in Los Angeles for 30 years, you have to drive to very darks places to see people poop in the streets. And yet some GOP candidates seen to find these places within the first 10 minutes. Their drivers sure hate them 😂
Thank you. I spent 14 years in Central and South Florida, and now 22 years in Los Angeles. Plenty of drugs to go around in both States in my view. The debate was funny, if anything. California has a huge economy and is not comparable to Florida, to be honest. Newsom didn't swing that well last night. Plenty of opportunities overlooked at the beginning (although he got in-stride later on). DeSantis on the other hand also missed opportunities. He could have gone with a business approach which Southern Florida has a lot to brag about. It's quite possible that he had to withhold some of his talking points because of the game of chess within Newsom's arsenal, especially when it comes to the Disney debacle.
As somsome who's currently living in Florida. And did in Cali. I've seen more crazy things happen in Florida. With my own eyes. I don't mean media. In Cali, I would only ever see crazy things near Skid Row at night. Otherwise nothing to see.
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
Newsom is just begging to run for president. Dude cannot wait. Nearly 100% chance he runs in 2028 and judging by his appearance today, I think he will be a tough opponent. DeSantis got absolutely hammered today. Hes just awkward man, dude cant shake off blows at all and sounds like a whiny child.
I'd say Newsom won because he got what he wanted - continue to make DeSantis look like an alien, and more importantly constantly tell the Fox News audience "look at all this good stuff Biden did that Fox doesnt tell you" I really don't get what Meatball Ron had to gain from this debate at all?
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
As Californian, life here is getting harder and harder. Newsome is nothing special, at all. Don't be fooled America. Neither guy is presidential material
If Newsome is a governor and so highly praised by the media and democratic establishment, then why is California having all the issues? I'm not seeing any changes regarding housing, schooling, gas prices, and food prices. Im sure this is a national issue, but if he can't do anything about it, then just say so and stop pretending like things are fine when they are not. I will take an honest answer over a lie or lame excuse.
I like that Newsom pretty much laid out everything DeSantis has done, and basically called him out as the terrible, divisive human being that he was for doing it. Usually democrats won't go so far, claiming "That's for voters to decide", which IMO makes them look like unfeeling robots. In the end, if you REALLY think trump is as bad as he is, or that DeSantis is a cruel deceiver and divider and you've laid bare your reasoning, then come right out and SAY it. If you're afraid to tell someone what you think of them based on their own words and actions, then you look WEAK. The rest of the dems need to learn this.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
@@Lerian_Vis interesting though gaven said that Ron was tough on covid and the to light on covid. He was trying to make both points and that made him look flip-floppy
@@kyle1235 It is a big sham. Biden is doing a very good job. Kyle and Krystal act like Biden has dictatorial powers over the US and even the whole planet. Yet anyone who followed the news knows Biden tried to get very progressive policy through - but the nearly 50/50 Senate stopped him. And he is doing a great job diplomatically. He cannot order Israel around - he has to use deplomacy. That is far from easy. It very irresponsible that BP and Kyle - people who are educated enough and smart enough to know how difficult governing is - to simplify everything so they can create lucrative anger porn. These folks are greedy nihilists.
The country is very leftist and loves handouts. The Democrats have imported millions of voters from socialist countries. A Republican will likely never win the presidency again.
Yea it would have been neutral on a left leaning network. It’s insane how Sean lied multiple times by using junk data. Like using age adjusted Covid numbers to compare California and Florida. As if old people don’t matter or something. The left would never do that.
I think Pete Buttigieg was on FOX earlier this year and he did incredibly well. I think they even hosted Marianne Williamson sometime after announcing her presidential run
@@blst99 The thing is with California, homeless flock there because of the weather and are provided better services than many surrounding states. That is not to say that California does not have problems, but part of the reason for why the homelessness is bad is because other places treat them far far worse. So it's more complex than just the poop map lol.
Meh…I was hoping he would but he didn’t. It was closer than it should’ve been because of Newsom’s obvious failures around crime and homelessness. He’s just such a wimp about it.
The fact some virtue signalers can’t tell the difference between Biden who still want 2-stares solution vs Trump who wants Muslim ban and let Netanyahu have all Palestine is absurd
@@user-uu6of6fh3y does the lesser evil trope make sense to you when the lesser evil is still pro-genocide? How far is too far if you find yourself voting for this bullshit?
I’m a Floridian/deputy south of Tampa 😂😂 Ron love talking about fighting crime or controlling the homeless stuff. Someone with boots on the ground , the homeless are good at hiding in the swamp in Florida and criminals never really go to prison. Doc can’t take inmates because they’re understaffed, and pay is really low . He don’t treat DOC as a law enforcement organization 😂😂 he only gives road cops a 1000$ bonus not correction. My county isn’t closed to big but we only send 5 every week to prison and have a wait list long . Many homeless people with mental illness problems aren’t roaming the streets bc they’re lock with no real treatment or plans to help them . Many will sit in jail for 3 to 4 for a simple trespassing
Hannity making me feel empathy for Newsom makes me hate hannity more than normal, which is a lot to begin with. Also, him bragging about being the longest-running cable "news" show is like bragging about having the longest serving sentence in the sex offender section of a prison.
Shapiro vs Newsome? Lmao that's like Superman vs Hefty man and Nesome is Hefty dumb! The smartest business man in the world took his headquarters out of Cali, oh you know X is fixing to leave as well!
@charliecrowley1070 ah okay, I could see that too lol. They've been floating the Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro as a nominee in 2028. I'm biased because I'm from PA but I feel like he's a better option than Newsom
the thing about desantis is he's never actually performed well in any public speaking context because being an empty suit for the current right wing movement has always been enough for him.
NGL I would vote for Newsom. Mixed policy record for sure but the stringing together a sentence thing is truly indispensable ATM. Also he could win. Kamala??? There’s just no way.
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
Honestly it seemed pretty easy for him. I think people vasty overstate how bad Biden has been. He's been surprisingly good to me on everything except Israel. I honestly expected much less when he got elected
The thing is Biden hasn't done really bad when you considered he inherited a huge economical mess from Trump. That is the line of attack the dems should be going for.
@@John__Bristol no president has ever given me anything lol funny question. I'm progressive, I thought Joe Biden would be a standard neoliberal, and he's been more progressive than I expected. That's a good thing to me.
@@John__Bristol Biden has done the Chips Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure, Inflation Reduction Act. Your boy, Trump only signed a tax cut bill for the rich and added 7 trillion to the debt. Oh didn't Trump also say he had a Infrastructure bill on the way every week. lmao
Newsom was debating DeSantis and Hannity and still crushed it. They always seemed to run out of time when Newsom spoke. And that smile of DeSantis! 😵💫 Please do not smile, too serial killer.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
Newsom started out the debate with a wagon full of lies. They weren’t even clever. He accused Florida of what California is a second after the state were displayed on the fucking screen. All this bullshit about how he “performed” better is for morons. He’s an Orwellian style figure that needs to be cast out of government. But the people of California will vote for him again.
But he has what Trump has on the other side - they are both good con performance artists. Gee, even some of the posters here fell for Newsom, liking everything they saw and heard. Who would win the debate if both of those 2 cons debated?
so I will say again that there are many Dem governors that are so much better than Marianne Williams. She could never have pulled off what Newsome did last night
1) It's Marianne WilliamSON; not Williams. 2) She's not a governor. 3) Captialization/punctuation. 4) How is this at all relevant to the debate? Sure, Newsom is a great debater, but Williamson's policies are much better.
@@AMortalDefiant 1) I never said she was a governor, and 2) I said there are many dem governors that are better than her, and 3) I'd love to hear these policy differences
@@gpapaz I would love to see Marianne Williams in a debate. But, I don't think she is going to debate some random Republican governor before the election. What she really needs to be in is a primary debate, to try and show how her policies differ from the other left-wing candidates. But, I don't think the party will allow that
@@slime8177 Newsom genuinely gives me a very bad feeling. That guy is a slimy lizard and he looks every bit like it with his evil smile and con man demeanor.
I actually hated when Newsome zoomed in on the Murder statistic because it really isnt the only violent crime that affects quality of life. He came across as being soft on crime to me because he totally deflected and I didnt think it was a good rebuttal.
Newsome is soft on crime.. everything has a lesser charge except murder.. and even that the penalty is 25yrs to life. Some people out live the sentence and parole in their 50s or 60s
@@dustinsindledecker154 What's your favorite part of Gavin's governance?? Is it the 519 billion in debt?? Is it the the homeless tent cities all over the state? Is it the $5/gallon price for gas?? Is it the feces littered streets? Maybe the fact that 700,000 Californians have left the state in the last year. Do tell??
Everything De Santis said was a canned talking point. He just recites words. But I like how triggered he got when he was accused of trying to shut down the Special Olympics and denied it. He absolutely tried to shut down the Special Olympics. We watched it happen in disbelief.
I thought Newsom came off worse than I expected, the California baggage hurts him too much in this type of debate and he did not counter very well. Surprised and disappointed.
How can anyone defend Newsoms record??? The debate was about who’s policies work better, in all the graphs presented it showed Floridas policies work and Newsoms have Ca in a downward trajectory. One is fixing a state and the other is turning it into San Francisco.
Hmm, when was the last time you visited SF!? I've been living in SF for over over 2 years and loving it. One of the most vibrant cities in the US. I wouldn't even go to Florida if you paid for me to go there...Neo-nazis walking the streets freely with swastika flags sieg heiling, no thank you!!!
@@dustinsindledecker154Based on most of the charts presented it seems DeSantis policies are working. Newsoms policies screwed up San Francisco, he is totally screwing California and if we let him he will do the same to the country which is already in bad shape. I don’t think anything has to do with homophobia…
As someone from California Newsome is a sleazy politician as it gets. He was great a deflecting and not answering questions but anyone who can think critically can see through it. I still think California is the greatest state in the country but man is Newsome running it to the ground. There’s a reason since CA became a state it has seen growth in population every year…until Newsome. Now 3 consecutive years we’ve been losing people. That’s all you need to know
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
This is one debate I'e been waiting to see. My prediction is that De Santis will get trounced by Newsom in every area imaginable, let's hope I'm correct.
it scares me that the first thing mentioned is DeSantis’ “awkward faces” and demeanor rather than what both of these sleezballs said. I’m not a fan of DeSantis but I wish people would actually listen to the lies that Newsome spreads on a consistent basis for example saying that Florida was the real “lockdown state” during covid and using Per Capita and raw numbers when necessary. Dude is a true snake oil salesman and avoided questions like none other. Any time he was asked something he began deflecting and talking about Florida because he knows California is a disaster right now. the things he says are blatant lies and it amazes me people actually support him.
I love how everyone keeps going on and on about Newsome lol. He is what is he is lol and I’ll give him credit for that. California is booming right now, Newsome admitted that he was cleaning house in SF and he shrugs his shoulders and smiles. I like him because he’s unapologetically himself lol
theres a way to stick it to the repub/dem duopoly. vote third party. And there’s a way to stick it to the electoral system; organize and mobilize students, tenants, and workers! Solidarity! 🤜 🤛
So sad how low are expectations of pols have become... Let me tell you as a denizen of Cali -- Newsom is, and always has been, a very sleazy pol, on the level of PrezJoe. Thanx for watching these 2, so that I don't have to!
I agree.. It felt like a more normal debate. I do think that everyone makes a big deal about Biden's age. He is still sharp and much more sane than Trump, but I would vote for Newsom if needed
Biden sharp? Falling asleep at important functions, not knowing where he is, mumbling stuff most don't understand, whispering, yelling adn grinning is sharp?
No i don't have the patience for things like that. It takes things out of context, and i like to get the whole picture. However, it's not hard to find videos of Biden where he clearly shows signs of dementia. To deny that is to deny reality.
Greasy Gavin is basically just “average Dem establishment, but very good at it”. Strongest guy on the Democratic bench at the moment… so strong, in fact, I’d take him over a destined loser like Marianne even if I like her policies better
@@John__Bristol No we are definitely thinking of the same incident. But feel free to link what you're talking about if you would like to give me the masterclass on body language.
And I have to be honest, I give Newsome credit for actually going on Fox News. More Democrats should go on Fox News because the perception is that we’re afraid to go on Fox News. Kudos to Newsom. And we really can’t complain about Republican loaded questions because we do the same thing when we do our debates. So the point is moot.
These comments are wild. I'm no Republican, but Desantis eviscerated Newsom. You cant avoid answering any questions, then cherry pick arguments and lies.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
Okay then unbanned those 80% of books and keep the 20% that are lewd banned. And technically they're not even banned it's not you can't go to a regular library and check these books out. You can't get them in a school library, they don't need to be there lol. That book Ron held up really is geared towards kids and if it's in the library it doesn't need to be there.
Newsome and DeSantis are both standard politicians? DeSantis is a standard politician? I disagree. He's extreme. Second, discussing this as if this was a fair debate is misguided. Sean Hannity was literally debating Newsome throughout and setting up talking points for DeSantis. In the context of the bias, I think Newsome gets extra points. Interesting to hear both of your takeaways though.
I hear you but I think Gavin did right. If this is how Gavin is tackling Fox News and a Republican at the same time, I would choose him over Pete any day.
@@ELTEAESSwhoever wins between Trump or Biden will only have one term. We all know that's the matchup for 2024. It would be smart to look ahead as well and not let '28 creep up on us.
If there is a democracy left in 2028, maybe this is a preview presidential matchup. But if trump wins 2024 then there is also a threat that he will not leave in 2028 and use his authoritarian power to stay for as long as he lives.
I really doubt that there will be a presidential election in 2028, just like I doubt that there will be another pope. The world is changing and rearranging, getting ready for the Aquarian Age.
I was looking forward to 2 political careers ending last night, but all i saw was Hannity interrupting newsom over every question. You know you're bad when Gavin Newsom makes you look bad.
Governor Newsom has some balls to do this with FOX.
It was litterally a 2 vs 1.
He did very well from the clips I've seen.
He's more friendly to Hannity if you can believe that. He's done multiple interviews with him.
Just like Bernie going on fox and getting standing ovations on health care .
Very calculated move on Newsom's part. This is how you get non-GOP talking points aired on FOX news who would otherwise just continue to talk incessantly about the poop map. Well done!
Gavin pointing out that DeSantis was one of the first to do an executive order for Covid and close beaches made Ron squirm so much. 😂😂
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! NEWSOME closed all of Cali besides big business!
You didn't live in Cali we had the most Authoritarian policies.
California barely opened up back up this year :)
Even with Hannity polishing DeSantis pipe, it wasn't enough to make Gavin look bad.
Gavin held his own.
he destroyed Ronnie and the rights favorite liberal tropes
I thought the fecal map was pretty good....stay boosted 😂
Newsom had to lie about California having lower taxes 🤔
Gavin was lying repeatedly. Desantis had the facts on his side. Doesn’t matter neither will be president
@@John__Bristollol he got embarrassed
I live in Florida and I can say that plenty of drug addicts shit in the streets here as well.
I live in Los Angeles for 30 years, you have to drive to very darks places to see people poop in the streets. And yet some GOP candidates seen to find these places within the first 10 minutes. Their drivers sure hate them 😂
Thank you. I spent 14 years in Central and South Florida, and now 22 years in Los Angeles. Plenty of drugs to go around in both States in my view. The debate was funny, if anything. California has a huge economy and is not comparable to Florida, to be honest. Newsom didn't swing that well last night. Plenty of opportunities overlooked at the beginning (although he got in-stride later on). DeSantis on the other hand also missed opportunities. He could have gone with a business approach which Southern Florida has a lot to brag about. It's quite possible that he had to withhold some of his talking points because of the game of chess within Newsom's arsenal, especially when it comes to the Disney debacle.
lol lots of meth is made there
As somsome who's currently living in Florida. And did in Cali.
I've seen more crazy things happen in Florida. With my own eyes. I don't mean media. In Cali, I would only ever see crazy things near Skid Row at night. Otherwise nothing to see.
@@robertovelez9122 you see? That's an export! I'm telling ya. Florida does business!!!
I didn’t even know this was a thing . So now Gavin has debated more this year than trump and Biden combined .
Gavin threw to commercial break at one point like a game show host.😅
I can picture Gavin hosting family fued 😅
gavin's staff is remotely competent; that's the biggest difference
I think newsom did great especially considering he had to go up against Desantis and Hannity.
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
The presidential debate we’d be having if our country wasn’t on the brink of collapse
To be fair, ghoul like DeSantis being candidate would indicate a society on the brink of collapse
So dramatic lol
@@kyle1235 Why you little…
@@mariguana7918 😁
It was pretty nauseating to watch ngl
Newsom is just begging to run for president. Dude cannot wait. Nearly 100% chance he runs in 2028 and judging by his appearance today, I think he will be a tough opponent. DeSantis got absolutely hammered today. Hes just awkward man, dude cant shake off blows at all and sounds like a whiny child.
Cuban is more likely to win in 2028
I like Newsome actually but he will get burned by Cali in a presidential run
@@SantasGAINdeerif Trump wins no chance he stays alive during those first 4 years
@@SantasGAINdeera status quo president is not fine
Gonna be Newsom/Buttigieg or Newsom/generic Dem. Calling it now.
Except Newsome can’t answer a single question without lying, fact checkers were not his friend
Data had more human expressions than Ron.
😂 The best comment I've read under this video.😂
Even without Data's emotion chip activated.
Data was cool and Ron is not lol
He's Pat Bateman without the charisma
I'd say Newsom won because he got what he wanted - continue to make DeSantis look like an alien, and more importantly constantly tell the Fox News audience "look at all this good stuff Biden did that Fox doesnt tell you"
I really don't get what Meatball Ron had to gain from this debate at all?
this
exposure; only exposure
The guy won simply because he wasted Desantis' time😂. Newsom is not running.
Gavin should of made fun of Ron's heels
DeSantis is an alien from Uranus.
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
As Californian, life here is getting harder and harder. Newsome is nothing special, at all. Don't be fooled America. Neither guy is presidential material
Sure but Gavin is the lesser of two evils
If Newsome is a governor and so highly praised by the media and democratic establishment, then why is California having all the issues? I'm not seeing any changes regarding housing, schooling, gas prices, and food prices. Im sure this is a national issue, but if he can't do anything about it, then just say so and stop pretending like things are fine when they are not. I will take an honest answer over a lie or lame excuse.
@@dustinsindledecker154no he is pretty evil
I like that Newsom pretty much laid out everything DeSantis has done, and basically called him out as the terrible, divisive human being that he was for doing it. Usually democrats won't go so far, claiming "That's for voters to decide", which IMO makes them look like unfeeling robots. In the end, if you REALLY think trump is as bad as he is, or that DeSantis is a cruel deceiver and divider and you've laid bare your reasoning, then come right out and SAY it. If you're afraid to tell someone what you think of them based on their own words and actions, then you look WEAK. The rest of the dems need to learn this.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
This is something the hard right and the hard left agree with. No pulling of punches.
@@Lerian_Vis interesting though gaven said that Ron was tough on covid and the to light on covid. He was trying to make both points and that made him look flip-floppy
@@shadycnetwork People do the right thing for the wrong reasons, especially in politics.
I love how Kyle uses his Trump voice to quote other conservatives 😂
I love how no one gets that Kyle and Krystal are actually ant-democracy Trumpers.
@@peterstafford4426 I love how nobody gets that basically everyone in the "online left" are
@@kyle1235 It is a big sham. Biden is doing a very good job. Kyle and Krystal act like Biden has dictatorial powers over the US and even the whole planet. Yet anyone who followed the news knows Biden tried to get very progressive policy through - but the nearly 50/50 Senate stopped him. And he is doing a great job diplomatically. He cannot order Israel around - he has to use deplomacy. That is far from easy. It very irresponsible that BP and Kyle - people who are educated enough and smart enough to know how difficult governing is - to simplify everything so they can create lucrative anger porn. These folks are greedy nihilists.
@@kyle1235 they're all lying?
@@peterstafford4426How so
If the Dems want to beat Trump, run Newsome! And I don’t even like the guy!
I have said the same - the only way to beat Trump is Newsom and I can't stand Newsom.
The country is very leftist and loves handouts. The Democrats have imported millions of voters from socialist countries. A Republican will likely never win the presidency again.
Sure bud, even though polls show newsom losing worse than Biden
any regular Dem could beat Trump. choose one you like.
Noooo!! Marianne Williamson actually has the platform
Imagine if DeSantis debated Newsom on a left leaning network. You have to give Gavin points for playing the away game
Never would happen. Republicans always need their safe space.
Yea it would have been neutral on a left leaning network. It’s insane how Sean lied multiple times by using junk data. Like using age adjusted Covid numbers to compare California and Florida. As if old people don’t matter or something. The left would never do that.
@@tylertyler82false. The right is always more willing to go on left channels than vise versa. But shoutout to Newsome. The man is a performer
I think Pete Buttigieg was on FOX earlier this year and he did incredibly well. I think they even hosted Marianne Williamson sometime after announcing her presidential run
If that happened then Ron would have to wear 10 inch heels
Gavin Newsom destroyed Ron DeSantis based on performance.
What did you think of poop map? Newsom was uncomfortable.
@@blst99 The thing is with California, homeless flock there because of the weather and are provided better services than many surrounding states. That is not to say that California does not have problems, but part of the reason for why the homelessness is bad is because other places treat them far far worse. So it's more complex than just the poop map lol.
@@jackeagleeye3453plus republicans ship off their homeless to California with one way bus trips.
Meh…I was hoping he would but he didn’t. It was closer than it should’ve been because of Newsom’s obvious failures around crime and homelessness. He’s just such a wimp about it.
I think newsom started off weak but he didn’t do bad
I can see Newsom being the headliner for 2028
The idea that there's any discussion beyond "both these candidates support genocide, and so does every politician save a select few" is fucking absurd
The fact some virtue signalers can’t tell the difference between Biden who still want 2-stares solution vs Trump who wants Muslim ban and let Netanyahu have all Palestine is absurd
@@user-uu6of6fh3y does the lesser evil trope make sense to you when the lesser evil is still pro-genocide? How far is too far if you find yourself voting for this bullshit?
We get it, you're upset about the war. Welcome to life on earth.
@@masterchief9291 it's not a war
@@stove5035 if your argument is that it's a "genocide" and therefore can't also be a war you are objectively incorrect.
DeSantis is just awkward. I can't believe anyone was ever scared of him, or thought he'd be the next Donald Trump.
I’m a Floridian/deputy south of Tampa 😂😂 Ron love talking about fighting crime or controlling the homeless stuff. Someone with boots on the ground , the homeless are good at hiding in the swamp in Florida and criminals never really go to prison. Doc can’t take inmates because they’re understaffed, and pay is really low . He don’t treat DOC as a law enforcement organization 😂😂 he only gives road cops a 1000$ bonus not correction. My county isn’t closed to big but we only send 5 every week to prison and have a wait list long . Many homeless people with mental illness problems aren’t roaming the streets bc they’re lock with no real treatment or plans to help them . Many will sit in jail for 3 to 4 for a simple trespassing
Would you go be an officer in LA or SAN FRAN? Cause lots have left Cali to do that!
Newsom was debating two opponents....
Hannity making me feel empathy for Newsom makes me hate hannity more than normal, which is a lot to begin with. Also, him bragging about being the longest-running cable "news" show is like bragging about having the longest serving sentence in the sex offender section of a prison.
And Newsom did well
Not a big fan of Newsom but DeSantis should be thanking his lucky stars he is not running for President. What a master politician.
Yeah Obama vibes big time, especially considering EVERYBODY for the past 8 years.
I'd love to see Governor Shapiro do a debate like this and see how well he does.
Shapiro vs Newsome? Lmao that's like Superman vs Hefty man and Nesome is Hefty dumb! The smartest business man in the world took his headquarters out of Cali, oh you know X is fixing to leave as well!
@charliecrowley1070 I was thinking Shapiro vs a republican like DeSantis.
Oh I don't know anything about him that you was talking about Ben Lol
@charliecrowley1070 ah okay, I could see that too lol. They've been floating the Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro as a nominee in 2028. I'm biased because I'm from PA but I feel like he's a better option than Newsom
Anything is better than Biden!
Hannity was really trying to help DeSantis in this one. For future debates like this, we need a moderator that's actually neutral.
Good luck finding ONE person without a strong reaction to Trump.
@@d.f.9064Melania? 😂
Hannity whenever Newsom makes any points. "Now we have a short break" This was a cash grab for fox and a ego bump for Ron
Yea with the internet I don’t understand why they can’t have policy debates in a podcast form. Then all statistics can be fact checked real time.
@@cwhit0110 it odd how Ron had props that aligned with the questions. Almost like Sean and Ron plotted the debate.
the thing about desantis is he's never actually performed well in any public speaking context because being an empty suit for the current right wing movement has always been enough for him.
And hannity said to newsom something like “I’ll moderate the debate, I’ll say a word on a topic and you both freely debate, you have my word”
Newson is quick on his feet and know his stuff
NGL I would vote for Newsom. Mixed policy record for sure but the stringing together a sentence thing is truly indispensable ATM. Also he could win. Kamala??? There’s just no way.
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
Krystal & Kyle together lesssgoooo
DeSantis trying to smile gives me Dean Howard yelling vibes.
😂 The first time I saw Desantis’ awkward gestures I knew he was done for. It’s pretty amusing though.
He's so anti-gay, he's even anti-gay in the original meaning of the word that he can't even smile.
It's so creepy
It was tough for newsome because he had to defend Biden's administration performance which is like a huge wound in the side of the dems
Honestly it seemed pretty easy for him. I think people vasty overstate how bad Biden has been. He's been surprisingly good to me on everything except Israel. I honestly expected much less when he got elected
The thing is Biden hasn't done really bad when you considered he inherited a huge economical mess from Trump. That is the line of attack the dems should be going for.
@@John__Bristol no president has ever given me anything lol funny question. I'm progressive, I thought Joe Biden would be a standard neoliberal, and he's been more progressive than I expected. That's a good thing to me.
@@John__Bristolwhy are you guys always looking for handouts?
@@John__Bristol Biden has done the Chips Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure, Inflation Reduction Act. Your boy, Trump only signed a tax cut bill for the rich and added 7 trillion to the debt. Oh didn't Trump also say he had a Infrastructure bill on the way every week. lmao
Newsom was debating DeSantis and Hannity and still crushed it. They always seemed to run out of time when Newsom spoke. And that smile of DeSantis! 😵💫 Please do not smile, too serial killer.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
So you are good with human poop all over your side walks? You are good with people openly shooting drugs up in public? You are good with drug needles on the streets? You are good with theft being so bad your businesses leave? PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO MY STATE! Do you have any common sense?
Biden guiding a ship is both a hilarious & terrifying thing to imagine
Love him or hate him, Newsom will destroy just about anyone in a debate. DeSantis looked pathetic.
@@John__Bristolthe debate…
@@NinjerWreckIt really doesn't matter both parties have already sold out the American people.😂😂😂😂
All people have to do is point at the place he’s in control of 😂
Newsom started out the debate with a wagon full of lies. They weren’t even clever. He accused Florida of what California is a second after the state were displayed on the fucking screen. All this bullshit about how he “performed” better is for morons. He’s an Orwellian style figure that needs to be cast out of government. But the people of California will vote for him again.
@@John__Bristolcope harder kiddo
I half expect Newsom to be unlockable if you beat him with DeSantis in arcade mode
It’s 2023, you can unlock him from the battle pass.
@@nickthompson1812boo where's the fun in that
Idk why people don't get that Newsom is only available in versions that don't include Biden on the roster
@@simiansam5179lmao hope the angel of death hurries up with the next game batch then
I would not either one of them. I live in California, and Newsom is not a friend of labor.
But he has what Trump has on the other side - they are both good con performance artists. Gee, even some of the posters here fell for Newsom, liking everything they saw and heard. Who would win the debate if both of those 2 cons debated?
We’re never going to get a president that’s friendly to labor. Our owners forbid it. Our only choices are fascism or neoliberalism.
Did he not just instill an $20 minimum wage for fast food workers?
so I will say again that there are many Dem governors that are so much better than Marianne Williams. She could never have pulled off what Newsome did last night
If debatebro skills meant anything substantial, then yes
1) It's Marianne WilliamSON; not Williams.
2) She's not a governor.
3) Captialization/punctuation.
4) How is this at all relevant to the debate? Sure, Newsom is a great debater, but Williamson's policies are much better.
@@AMortalDefiant 1) I never said she was a governor, and 2) I said there are many dem governors that are better than her, and 3) I'd love to hear these policy differences
@@gpapaz I would love to see Marianne Williams in a debate. But, I don't think she is going to debate some random Republican governor before the election. What she really needs to be in is a primary debate, to try and show how her policies differ from the other left-wing candidates. But, I don't think the party will allow that
@@tjstarr2960 I'm interested in understanding how her policy positions are different than Biden. Medicare4all? What else?
Newsom is a man I would fight for. He inspires me!
😂😂😂
jew love to see it
@@cl8804 go away
@@cl8804 haha I’m no fan of those guys either, trust me
@@slime8177 Newsom genuinely gives me a very bad feeling. That guy is a slimy lizard and he looks every bit like it with his evil smile and con man demeanor.
As a Californian, I will happily root against Nancy's Nephew aka Slavin Gruesome.
Love him hope he run nationally
I actually hated when Newsome zoomed in on the Murder statistic because it really isnt the only violent crime that affects quality of life. He came across as being soft on crime to me because he totally deflected and I didnt think it was a good rebuttal.
That's not what deflection is.
Newsome is soft on crime.. everything has a lesser charge except murder.. and even that the penalty is 25yrs to life. Some people out live the sentence and parole in their 50s or 60s
I'm glad this video exists. Because I wanted to know what happened but I can't stand looking at DeSantis face
Casey also can't stand Rob's face.😅
Id vote for Newsom tbh
Why?? Because he's done such a good job governing California??
@@toddsalkowski448he has done a better job than pudding Ron
@@dustinsindledecker154 What's your favorite part of Gavin's governance?? Is it the 519 billion in debt?? Is it the the homeless tent cities all over the state? Is it the $5/gallon price for gas?? Is it the feces littered streets? Maybe the fact that 700,000 Californians have left the state in the last year. Do tell??
Everything De Santis said was a canned talking point. He just recites words. But I like how triggered he got when he was accused of trying to shut down the Special Olympics and denied it. He absolutely tried to shut down the Special Olympics. We watched it happen in disbelief.
I thought Newsom came off worse than I expected, the California baggage hurts him too much in this type of debate and he did not counter very well. Surprised and disappointed.
Primaries still ongoing, watching that debate is like watching a race to see who comes last and second last.
I don't like California but I'd rather live there than Florida. Went to Florida once and gawd I hope I never have to again!
How can anyone defend Newsoms record??? The debate was about who’s policies work better, in all the graphs presented it showed Floridas policies work and Newsoms have Ca in a downward trajectory. One is fixing a state and the other is turning it into San Francisco.
Being homophobic is not helping the state
Hmm, when was the last time you visited SF!? I've been living in SF for over over 2 years and loving it. One of the most vibrant cities in the US. I wouldn't even go to Florida if you paid for me to go there...Neo-nazis walking the streets freely with swastika flags sieg heiling, no thank you!!!
@@dustinsindledecker154Based on most of the charts presented it seems DeSantis policies are working. Newsoms policies screwed up San Francisco, he is totally screwing California and if we let him he will do the same to the country which is already in bad shape. I don’t think anything has to do with homophobia…
That vape is glued to his hand. That’s why I quit that crap, it’s too easy to use all the time
Newsome got wrecked, loved it. However easy when facts are in your favor.
Krystal is so beautiful 🥰
As someone from California Newsome is a sleazy politician as it gets. He was great a deflecting and not answering questions but anyone who can think critically can see through it. I still think California is the greatest state in the country but man is Newsome running it to the ground. There’s a reason since CA became a state it has seen growth in population every year…until Newsome. Now 3 consecutive years we’ve been losing people. That’s all you need to know
What's your thoughts on how Reagan ran it?
How Krystal laughs at Kyle when he said Desantes wasn’t that awkward lol
I'm been waiting for yall to talk about this
Lubed-Up Newsome really is a slippery little weasel.
Best assessment of this debate I've seen.
Gavin absolutely clobbered Desantis, end of story.
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
Newsome is very confident and very sure of himself vs Desantis who is sooo awkward
Desantis always making weird faces
MONEY OUT OF POLITICS!
This is one debate I'e been waiting to see. My prediction is that De Santis will get trounced by Newsom in every area imaginable, let's hope I'm correct.
Ya Krystal!!!
My favorite guest
There is nothing to debate. Just look at how people move. My neighbor told me she just moved from Orange County CA to Orange County FL.
Orange county Florida is a shithole
Many people also move from fl to ca
Krystal seems so calm in all this... one thing is for sure, marriage certainly agrees with her. She's never looked more beautiful.
Weird
Kyle's burner account
Their bull does good work
Wtf??
Horny Jail. Immediately.
Not a fan of Newsom, but the dude won hands down. that's a fact, I don't think it helps Desantis tbh I didn't see Desantis make eye contact once.
Well because Ron has a crush on Gavin
it scares me that the first thing mentioned is DeSantis’ “awkward faces” and demeanor rather than what both of these sleezballs said. I’m not a fan of DeSantis but I wish people would actually listen to the lies that Newsome spreads on a consistent basis for example saying that Florida was the real “lockdown state” during covid and using Per Capita and raw numbers when necessary. Dude is a true snake oil salesman and avoided questions like none other. Any time he was asked something he began deflecting and talking about Florida because he knows California is a disaster right now. the things he says are blatant lies and it amazes me people actually support him.
Can't have a murder rate when murder is decriminalized in california
You forgot the sarcasm font
I would vote for Newsom out of all the standard democrats
California never lost a congressional seat until Newsom became governor.
I love how everyone keeps going on and on about Newsome lol. He is what is he is lol and I’ll give him credit for that. California is booming right now, Newsome admitted that he was cleaning house in SF and he shrugs his shoulders and smiles. I like him because he’s unapologetically himself lol
Gavin is in deed greasy but he does have that Mr steal your girl energy
Yeah that is why Ron kept Casey away from Gavin
I do agree with kyle, it was nice to see 2 "normal" politicians having a proper debate
Speedrunning 2028
theres a way to stick it to the repub/dem duopoly. vote third party. And there’s a way to stick it to the electoral system; organize and mobilize students, tenants, and workers! Solidarity! 🤜 🤛
Voting third party doesn't do that.
I don’t like either person on stage, but anyone who watched the debate would have a different take. Ron was a clear winner.
So sad how low are expectations of pols have become... Let me tell you as a denizen of Cali -- Newsom is, and always has been, a very sleazy pol, on the level of PrezJoe.
Thanx for watching these 2, so that I don't have to!
I didn't even know this debate happened where can I watch it?
I agree.. It felt like a more normal debate. I do think that everyone makes a big deal about Biden's age. He is still sharp and much more sane than Trump, but I would vote for Newsom if needed
Biden sharp? Falling asleep at important functions, not knowing where he is, mumbling stuff most don't understand, whispering, yelling adn grinning is sharp?
You clearly live in a media bubble to make that claim about Biden
@@Ohtheironkneewhy is that? Because you saw a montage of Biden gaffe's and trips over the last few years?
No i don't have the patience for things like that. It takes things out of context, and i like to get the whole picture. However, it's not hard to find videos of Biden where he clearly shows signs of dementia. To deny that is to deny reality.
@@Ohtheironkneeand what do you think about Trump?
I love how you two look like a couple of 17 year olds from 2007
Greasy Gavin is basically just “average Dem establishment, but very good at it”. Strongest guy on the Democratic bench at the moment… so strong, in fact, I’d take him over a destined loser like Marianne even if I like her policies better
Congrats that means you are the average normie democrat
Policy matters more than age dude 100%
I don’t like Ron but he won that debate in terms of all the stats you look at in a state.
It doesn’t shine a good light on California that it resembles Gotham city identically
A debate between two alternate reality versions of each other.
Newsom 'll run instead of Joe. He has a good chance. Imagine Joe in presidential debates with Trump, he 'd be decommisioned.
Dude, Trump's cognitive state short-circuits way more than Biden's
@@John__Bristol Yea I remember when Biden gestured his hand towards a person who was off camera, bulletproof evidence you got yourself there lmao
@@John__Bristol No we are definitely thinking of the same incident. But feel free to link what you're talking about if you would like to give me the masterclass on body language.
And I have to be honest, I give Newsome credit for actually going on Fox News. More Democrats should go on Fox News because the perception is that we’re afraid to go on Fox News. Kudos to Newsom. And we really can’t complain about Republican loaded questions because we do the same thing when we do our debates. So the point is moot.
These comments are wild. I'm no Republican, but Desantis eviscerated Newsom. You cant avoid answering any questions, then cherry pick arguments and lies.
This feels like an MSNBC comment section
GAVINS FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA..I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT FLORIDA LOST..FLORIDA WON SO BIG THAT CALIFORNIAS GOVERNOR OWN FAMILY LEFT TO THE SUNSHINE STATE...NUFF SAID
Okay then unbanned those 80% of books and keep the 20% that are lewd banned. And technically they're not even banned it's not you can't go to a regular library and check these books out. You can't get them in a school library, they don't need to be there lol. That book Ron held up really is geared towards kids and if it's in the library it doesn't need to be there.
Newsome and DeSantis are both standard politicians? DeSantis is a standard politician? I disagree. He's extreme.
Second, discussing this as if this was a fair debate is misguided. Sean Hannity was literally debating Newsome throughout and setting up talking points for DeSantis. In the context of the bias, I think Newsome gets extra points. Interesting to hear both of your takeaways though.
How can ANYONE think Newsome won? YOU MUST BE KIDDING! I mean the poop map alone....
She brings you massively up Kyle❤
So a debate between two people who won't be in the running by Super Tuesday? Neat, let's waste our time watching it.
One or both of them will be their party’s nominee in 2028
@@IndiaSpeaks_us Who said anything about 2028?
I hear you but I think Gavin did right.
If this is how Gavin is tackling Fox News and a Republican at the same time, I would choose him over Pete any day.
@@ELTEAESSwhoever wins between Trump or Biden will only have one term. We all know that's the matchup for 2024. It would be smart to look ahead as well and not let '28 creep up on us.
@@eugenesnow I don't know how people can be talking about 2028 when the 2024 election is almost a year from now. Ridiculous IMO.
It's too bad neither front-runner will debate anyone, and probably not each other in the primary.
Kind of funny how you all are using the metric of “is this person almost dead” as a serious factor. The goal post has been moved so far
If there is a democracy left in 2028, maybe this is a preview presidential matchup. But if trump wins 2024 then there is also a threat that he will not leave in 2028 and use his authoritarian power to stay for as long as he lives.
I really doubt that there will be a presidential election in 2028, just like I doubt that there will be another pope.
The world is changing and rearranging, getting ready for the Aquarian Age.
As a Californian I didn't even know this was going on
I was looking forward to 2 political careers ending last night, but all i saw was Hannity interrupting newsom over every question. You know you're bad when Gavin Newsom makes you look bad.
Warren G. Harding was only 58.....
So, it's kinda weird always talking about age.
Why can’t I find full debate anywhere
I’m not gonna lie I could give anything right now to have these two as the front runners and not trump and biden