*Very pleased with **Newest.Technology** the setup , it took a little adjusting on a few of out cameras to keep them from getting a glare at night. Once that was done they looked great! We look forward to adding a few more cameras to our current setup soon!*
I installed a 8 ch CCTV system. Works great and it only cost me $200!!!! That included 500gb SSD, cables (20m), power, DVR, EVERYTHING. Works great and looks great!
Hi Jonathan! Greetings from a fellow Aussie, electronics, home automation, ham radio, computer geek! :-) A few points... you refer a few times to the ANNKE cameras as being HD and 1920x1080. These cameras use composite video which is not HD, it's either 480i or 576i depending on being PAL or NTSC. I really think you have better check the temperature of the DVR in the ceiling space during summer... I think it's going to get way to hot up in there. (noticing beads of sweat on your forehead during this video). There are a lot of keenly priced HD IP cameras and DVRs out there now. I've been playing with the Hikvision cameras and they are amazing value for the $$$, 4MP (2688x1520) for ~US$130 . The web interface supports multiple web streaming formats... Microsoft, Quicktime, VLC. Motion detecting is built in, FTP uploading, amazing IR illumination. RTSP streaming direct to software like VLC. The Hikvision DVRs work very well too.
I have a temperature sensor inside the ceiling space a few meters from where the DVR is mounted. It reports back to MQTT and shows up in my OpenHAB interface (along with temperatures at other places around the house, including under the floor) so I can see what it gets up to. We went crazy with insulation when doing the renovation, so the ceiling space has two layers of insulation directly under the roof and then another layer on top of the ceiling. It definitely gets warm in there, but not as extreme as it did with before the roof was replaced.
have spent many hours watching your vids, they've brought me so along the IoT learning curve and I thank you for that :) even better that you are from my hometown, so nice to see an aussie nailing things so articulately, a template for how we can generate value for our country post the usual digging stuff up and selling it (with the associated Co2 liability...)
Really glad to run across such an instructive channel. I love the tempo, the details et your opinions as a seasoned engineer. Thanks a lot. Each and every video I've been watching so far, is awesome and helpful. You really deserve your 55K subscribers. As a matter of fact, I agree with you about the exclusive-windows monitoring software. I do all my job on linux boxes and it's always pretty frustrating to install a dedicated machine (virtual or real) just to have your monitors running. Looks like a regression... Regarding cables, you didn't mention Power over Ethernet cables which could spare space and time too. Adapters could do the job but they're pretty expensive for the topic.
I know it's a bit late, but the firmware on these DVR's/NVR's tend to have an RTSP stream that you can stream from. I have set up this model before and IIRC, the address is something like rtsp://ipaddr:554/PSIA/streaming/chXY (X being the channel and Y being the main or substream, usually 1 or 2) With this address, you can stream directly into omxplayer on a raspberry pi or even right into VLC.
Wait a minute. So, the power, like the 12v needed for a TVI camera can go across that small junction of ethernet cable? Amazing. Also, I have a question. I have a HD-SDI camera (I know, it's old) for my driveway that weren't installed by me that haven't worked for months. What do I use to check if there is still power running to the camera?
Don't know if I'll get a response, but where did you get the BNC, Power Audio adapter to Ethernet for the last camera you did & what is it named? I'm looking at a camera system & would rather run a single Ethernet cable for each camera through a wall then make a hole big enough to fit the 2 plugs of each cable through Edit: Found some on Amazon.com & will likely use these when/ if I install a camera system similar to yours
I just saw this comment, sorry. I'm glad you found them :-)
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I love your videos, I learn a lot from them, I have to adapt what i can do here in Canada but I have plans.... now what I have to figure out is the heat/ac on winter/summer....
It gets warm, but not ridiculously hot. I have temperature sensors in there reporting to MQTT so I can track it. When the house was renovated we were quite obsessive about insulation, so it has two layers of insulation directly under the roof, then another layer on the ceiling. It's made a big difference to the temperature stability of the house.
Are they able to autofocus? Please discuss in a followup video how to focus. And also would love to see a video on how to send transmission to another tv to view camera like you mentioned.
Those particular cameras are fixed-focus, but some other cameras have autofocus. I'm going to do another video later about how to distribute the video feed around the house, so that I can view the cameras from all the TVs in the house. I have a few other videos underway first though.
Hi, I know this is an older video. Have you made an update yet? I would love to see if you could have the motion trigger a light or something via MQTT.
Another great video mate, always love your stuff! I have been hold off on installing something similar for a long time and this is great inspiration. Would also be nice to see a video on the other aspects that you mentioned you did not get time to touch on.
Thanks :-) I want to do a follow-up video later, showing things like whole-house video distribution (so you can pull up cameras on any TV in the house, for example) and maybe alternative software. Different types of cameras could be interesting, too.
Now on to my 3rd generation of home CCTV - Zoneminder, analogue DVR, 3mp IP DVR, etc) , I can say Zoneminder was the biggest PITA of them all. DVR boxes like these are far more reliable & the live HDMI output to TV's is also very handy.
Great Video. I have a 10 camera system with a 2Tb HD. So glad you reminded me of the ethernet extenders! I know I will have 2 or 3 spots that need more than 60ft. I bought this system about a year ago (still have not installed it!!). Please make a follow-up video for those great features you spoke about at the end. I would like to come up with a way to have my HD tv in my bedroom automatically switch from regular tv programs to the cameras if motion is detected.
You got me! I originally tried it with a piece of yellow-tongue, but I couldn't get it through the insulation. So I switched to the wire, which went through easily. It really did end up in that position though, because I measured from the side wall to get both holes lined up vertically :-)
In the UK the cable with coax and power is known as shotgun cable. Also the converter from BNC to cat 5 then back to BNC is known as BALUN. it changes the signal from balanced to unbalanced. I find that the quantity is not the great compared to BNC but yours look unnoticeable.
I still have one unanswered question that I am thinking about installing the system in my house overseas.What happens when I choose only the motion detection and the 1 TB hdd gets full then what I can do from sitting in a foreign country? Does it stop recording or restart automatically deleting the old recording or watch it using internet and delete using an app on the smart phone or pc remotely?
My only concern with doing home automation is security. I would not want it connected to any internet or phone companies. Basically I have 2 separate networks of both ethernet & wifi...one intranet & one internet. Can this setup still be used on my local intranet so it will be secure?
If you were to use a brand new HDD would you have to partition the HDD before you install it or will the Linux OS on the DVR manage that at for you at first power up?
At about 31 minutes you talk about the Sonoff and presence detection. What method do you use to determine presence? All the methods I'm familiar with have reliability issues, but I'm interested in what method you prefer.
This is probably one of the most frustrating aspects of home automation for me at the moment. If it was possible to reliably track the location of every person in the house, it would open up so many cool possibilities! I currently use OpenHAB's network health plugin to check for the presence of various mobile phones on the local network, so that I know if particular people are home. I also use PIR motion detectors to figure out which rooms are likely to have people in them. PIRs are great for detecting unexpected intrusion (someone came into a house when it's meant to be unoccupied) and terrible at detecting occupancy. Sit still for 30 seconds and suddenly the home automation system has no idea you're in the room. In the past I've experimented with IR beacons (a badge you wear that identies you to a receiver in the room) but that is a terrible user experience. I've also experimented with a Kinect to do volume analysis, so it could know (for eg) if there is someone lying still on a couch. I've also used face detection in video streams, with very patchy results. I've spent a lot of time trying to solve this problem and haven't found anything that comes close to being a good solution.
I have the same configuration and it is not working for me, do you sell those adapters? Also I cannot get the camera's to go WIFI. I probably need more channels on my Router, which I will look into later.
You can access you security system via Android App to monitor your cameras with your smartphone remotely. This Annke brand seems to be a ' Dahua ' rebranded dvr. If it's true look for app called ' GDMSS Lite ' in play store and install it. It's very convenient way to monitor your system when you are away.
Hi Jon, I really like your videos, I think you should have your own tv show! following on from the above comment, I went to the Annke website and noticed they have POE 4mp cameras with an app for you phone etc. Is there a reason you didn't go for these?
great video ! What do you thnik about POE security camera systems? I want to build something similar to what you did, but I want to use POE cameras and store the video on a NAS (already have a ZyXEL). I think it's easier this way to stream video to smart-TV's, smartphones,etc.
i have a wifi system now is there a way to download the flash and do some changes and uplaod it again? why i want to do that is, i want to change the ip range to the one i use. the manufactur says you can´t change it.... i would be very thankfull for some help.
This looks really cool except that windows requirement is a show stopper since I have no windows machines in the house, only mac os and linux/rp. I did a quick search and found ZoneMinder which can run on an old PC under linux and from my quick look it would have most likely supported your existing cameras as well as allowing upgrade to better cameras in the future. Why did you go with annke over a something like Zone Minder? Gordon.
Wow, ZoneMinder, I'd forgotten about that! I ran it many years ago with USB cameras, and didn't even remember that it existed. I'm like you with no Windows, I had to install Windows using Bootcamp on my iMac to try the remote access. I should look at ZM again.
I have little experience with linux, but love the concept of it. I have tried several times to completely switch. I have tried zoneminder and could not get it to work how i wanted. I found it to freeze up on me frequently. Though my lack of linux experience and know how might have been to blame. ispy for windows is what i am currently using as a recording device for my ip cams. Tinycam monitor on android or Chromebox is a great real time viewer program
Hey. Great video. This is quite late but I've been trying to look for a cctv system and aanke seems to be what I'm aiming for. I want to get a hd system but I need to know whether your able to distinguish a cars number plate.
I have a 16 channel 2K Q-SEE camera system, it has the same UI as yours from what I saw in this video. I was wondering if you tried video streaming. I use VLC media player to view RTSP streams from the DVR, I know it works with OS X, Ubuntu, and even KODI on a Raspberry Pi. They also have a Q-SEE app to view it on a mobile devices, even outside the network.
I'll have to try that. I've been using VLC to view RTSP streams from a couple of my IP cameras, but I assumed the ANNKE software didn't expose RTSP. If it does, that'll be a big help.
I've been looking for a system for a while so I was interested in this video. I did think that the cameras would be driven using a network cable (for power and picture) so I was surprised to see the coax and separate power cable used. After checking out the Annke website I found you can have a NVR (as opposed to this DVR) solution. I think I might opt for the NVR (see below) unless there is reason not to? SANNCE 4CH 1080P PoE NVR HD Security Camera System w/ 4 2.1 Megapixels 1920*1080P Weatherproof CCTV Bullet Camera, Power Over Ethernet, Smart Recording, Quick Scan QR Code Quick Remote Access
Sure, an NVR is a great way to do it too. This just happened to be the package that I got because I wanted to get some experience with a non-IP based system.
You are so good at figuring things out with Python and stuff like that. Isn't there a way to figure things out with a computer language like Swift? Or, if you wanna go "basic", using Xojo? I use the latter to hack hardware (Professional Sony Camera's in my case).
Interesting video. You should get a few pricelists from the chinese suppliers on Alibaba. The latest prices I get are about US$15 for an AHD 1080p IR camera and about US$35 for the latest 8ch hybrid DVR (5-in-1 support HD-TVI/HD-CVI/AHD/Analog/IP Cameras). The all supply sample quantities to anyone, in my experience.
Hello! Usually, you can access the video streams of those DVRs directly without windows. On mine, there was a CD with lots of examples inside. Try around a little bit with VLC on the device. My ports and address where: rtsp://10.10.10.145:554/user=admin&password=&channel=1&stream=0.sdp? Channel for the number of the camera and then you can choose stream 0/1 (high resolution, low res) Maybe your system supports that direct access, too.
I am looking in to doing something similar. However, I was wondering about being able to tap in to those video feeds. I have been playing with computer vision with my HA system and being able to tap in to those video feeds would be awesome.
Interesting question. There are probably 2 ways to do it, but I don't know if this is practical. Firstly there may be a way to spit the raw signal from the camera so you feed it to both the DVR and to a video capture card for your HA system. Secondly your HA system may be able to connect to the DVR via the network and read the video stream, in a similar way to a smartphone or other device connecting to it. I'd love to hear what you do with this.
My day job is dealing with all streaming video. So I am curious what options these things have for outputting some video. You said that yours is using activex to display it correct? Have you tried to put anything like fiddler on that windows machine and check to see if that activex is calling a motion jpeg stream or rtsp? If so, the box itself may already be streaming (in a sense) Ill drop you a DM on twitter if you want to chat
Use IE on windows with Active X - Thats how most of the DVRS work. This is a benefit to using an NVR as you could build it from an old PC and install something like Milesight but have full control not just from Windows PC's
The whole network connectivity on something other than Windows has been driving me nuts. I run Linux on my daily use machine, therefore... No ActiveX. Many cameras including the cheap Chinese ones, require ActiveX. So far I'm trying to get around that by using BluIris as an NVR.
I have a cobra 8 channel system and rxcamview installed on my phone. My remote access works fine for 24-30 hours and then the remote access is disconnected. I have to reboot my DVR and as soon as I do, the remote access to my cameras work again. Then it fails again after 24 hours. Reboot and it works, then fails, etc. What is wrong...Can anyone help?
use internet explorer in windows ...i had the same problem until i did my research that was the only browser that works with the cameras ...as long as you have your ip address from the dvr it will work perfect on any computer with windows..and smart phone..
Absolutely. Open source DVR software like ZoneMinder running on PC hardware would do the job. Once you have more than about 4 cameras you start to run into bandwidth problems with things like disk throughput, so it's pretty common to run RAID arrays on larger camera systems. I have a spare 4-slot hot swap SATA array sitting on a shelf that I may use for something like that.
It amazes me with 16 gig of RAM , PCI-E 3 , 10G nic's , SATA3/6gbps , M2 SSD's and SSD's and drives (HDD/SSD/M2) seem to be still designed around single access not like the old "expensive" scsi stuff
Maybe get the CCTV/DVR to write via 10GE network link to a ZFS/Hardware Raid 6 file server with 6 drives all WD BLACKS for faster access or WD Red PROs
Looks pretty good for the price. But for automation i wouldn't use HDCVI camera's. Individual IP camera's (with the onvif standard) give you a lot more choices in the future for integration. Most of them have rtsp streams, screenshot functions, ... For "cheap" camera's, some great brand would be Axis, Acti, hikvision & Dahua. I think the set you are using is actually a rebranded Dahua set As for recording you, there is plenty of free software if you want to run your own server. all of these brands also have NVR(recording boxes) if you prefer that.
SuperHouseTV I've found that hd rf modulation is a superior solution for video distribution. the issue with HDMI splitting is that... well... monitors of different types/sizes/resolutions don't like to play together.
The software looks like the usual China DVR special - can you get an RTSP stream out of it? Stream path something like /cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=00&authbasic=XXXXXX Oh and nerd homes will require more than a 8ch DVR too hah
why not using an NVR instead of DVR? ip cameras are more expansive but your cables are already installed...? here in ISRAEL the price of NVR Vs DVR will be about 20-25% more.(overall with cameras...)
That's a great approach too, but I still want to use these IP cameras as well in other locations. I needed more cameras anyway, so I replaced some of the existing cameras with these new cameras and then I'll re-use the old ones.
I'm a Linux only user, so I don't like that side of it and it wouldn't work for me. However, I did love the size of that board and the fact it had 4 BNC HD Video inputs! I'd love a board like that to run Linux and use OBS Studio obsproject.com to capture the feeds so you could play with different setups and switching for live events. So my idea was more for live video production instead of home security. Anyone know a board like that that is Open Source/Supports Linux!?
I disagree with not seeing commercial places with IP cameras, in fact I see more IP cameras than analogue and AHD cameras although their not foscam's their proper enterprise grade stuff like Panasonic, Axis, Hikvision and Dedicated Micros I wouldn't recommend the balun method simply because you are more likely to get interference, but if have existing Ethernet run then its an ok method, just not recommended, I had horrible interference with one of the cameras on our home system, but we recently switched it out to a IP camera and it works great As with the only working with activex thing I would not trust it, even the first IP camera ever made (axis neteye 200) worked without activex, not sure why they still use it, hope that microsoft edge is going to put a stop to activex, I can just about live with a slow java applet but a windows only probably malware infected IE only applet, no, burn it to the ground, so many bad experiences with activex, can you tell?
This DVR does actually support IP cameras as well, but for each IP camera that you add, you have to disable one of the analog camera channels. I think that's because the hardware can only manage processing and storing 4 video sources at a time.
A bit late given the age of this recording...... That is no way a 4K HD kit for that price. I am sure that is what you said but then there was a jump in the video that looked like an edit so you may have been talking about another camera type. For info BNC and Phono connections normally only carry analog but you can send digital to some extent. This is more down to the manufacturers than bandwidth limitation of coax. The right type of coax cable has more than enough bandwidth to do the job. The problem is the cost of the hardware at each end. In order to send very high definition video some very expensive hardware and processing grunt is needed. I have yet to see a consumer priced coax based NVR/DVR that will record in 4K. To get that resolution you normally need a cctv camera with cat5/6 that is usually powered by POE (Power Over Ethernet). The video and control is normally sent through the network via H.265 or MPEG-2 encoding for the video or will use a management and video protocol such as ONVIF and many others. I am going by what is available in the UK. Here we use 50 or 60 Hz displays on normal home TV's, higher frequencies are normally only found on high end HD televisions and computer monitors. We use a video standard known as PAL-I in the UK. Different standards are used in other countries. Make sure you do your research before handing over your money and if possible buy a recorder that will give you the ability to expand the system later. If you want a very high quality no hassle cctv system then go for IP cctv cameras. Bellow are some links you may find helpful. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF www.cctvcamerapros.com/remote-security-camera-viewer-software-apps-s/671.htm www.cctv-information.co.uk/i/Transmission_of_Video_Signals_by_Cable I hope this is of help to someone. :)
That's a danger with networking anything. If someone gets onto my home automation network they won't just be able to see what I see: they'll be able to unlock doors, open windows, turn lights on and off, activate sprinkers, and do all sorts of crazy things. So I don't want that ;-)
Don't you love it when they run crap like dotnet or active x on stuff like this ...... Considering how many people use tablet and mobile phone for surfing and the increased usage of chromebooks
I need to stop watching these videos, although it gives me a good laugh. The siamese Coax/Power cable that come with those cheap CCTV kits are crap. You should just use proper RG56 or if you can find it RG6 siamese cable. Or future proof the setup and use Either Cat5e or Cat6 with Video Baluns.If you want to cheap out on the CCTV system then get a HikVision Value series kit or spend a little more and get a FLIR. Those two companies are the big boys of CCTV.
*Very pleased with **Newest.Technology** the setup , it took a little adjusting on a few of out cameras to keep them from getting a glare at night. Once that was done they looked great! We look forward to adding a few more cameras to our current setup soon!*
I installed a 8 ch CCTV system. Works great and it only cost me $200!!!! That included 500gb SSD, cables (20m), power, DVR, EVERYTHING. Works great and looks great!
FINALLY a CCTV system install video that actually shows the cable installation!!
Hi Jonathan! Greetings from a fellow Aussie, electronics, home automation, ham radio, computer geek! :-)
A few points... you refer a few times to the ANNKE cameras as being HD and 1920x1080. These cameras use composite video which is not HD, it's either 480i or 576i depending on being PAL or NTSC.
I really think you have better check the temperature of the DVR in the ceiling space during summer... I think it's going to get way to hot up in there. (noticing beads of sweat on your forehead during this video).
There are a lot of keenly priced HD IP cameras and DVRs out there now. I've been playing with the Hikvision cameras and they are amazing value for the $$$, 4MP (2688x1520) for ~US$130 . The web interface supports multiple web streaming formats... Microsoft, Quicktime, VLC. Motion detecting is built in, FTP uploading, amazing IR illumination. RTSP streaming direct to software like VLC.
The Hikvision DVRs work very well too.
I have a temperature sensor inside the ceiling space a few meters from where the DVR is mounted. It reports back to MQTT and shows up in my OpenHAB interface (along with temperatures at other places around the house, including under the floor) so I can see what it gets up to. We went crazy with insulation when doing the renovation, so the ceiling space has two layers of insulation directly under the roof and then another layer on top of the ceiling. It definitely gets warm in there, but not as extreme as it did with before the roof was replaced.
...Thank you it has been a pleasure in finding a easy video on how to hook cables to the dvr/nvr box & not be confuse about the back of the box......
have spent many hours watching your vids, they've brought me so along the IoT learning curve and I thank you for that :) even better that you are from my hometown, so nice to see an aussie nailing things so articulately, a template for how we can generate value for our country post the usual digging stuff up and selling it (with the associated Co2 liability...)
Really glad to run across such an instructive channel. I love the tempo, the details et your opinions as a seasoned engineer. Thanks a lot. Each and every video I've been watching so far, is awesome and helpful. You really deserve your 55K subscribers.
As a matter of fact, I agree with you about the exclusive-windows monitoring software. I do all my job on linux boxes and it's always pretty frustrating to install a dedicated machine (virtual or real) just to have your monitors running. Looks like a regression...
Regarding cables, you didn't mention Power over Ethernet cables which could spare space and time too. Adapters could do the job but they're pretty expensive for the topic.
That barrel connector is called a BNC female to female adapter. We go through tons of them each year :)
I know it's a bit late, but the firmware on these DVR's/NVR's tend to have an RTSP stream that you can stream from.
I have set up this model before and IIRC, the address is something like rtsp://ipaddr:554/PSIA/streaming/chXY (X being the channel and Y being the main or substream, usually 1 or 2)
With this address, you can stream directly into omxplayer on a raspberry pi or even right into VLC.
Wait a minute. So, the power, like the 12v needed for a TVI camera can go across that small junction of ethernet cable? Amazing.
Also, I have a question. I have a HD-SDI camera (I know, it's old) for my driveway that weren't installed by me that haven't worked for months. What do I use to check if there is still power running to the camera?
Don't know if I'll get a response, but where did you get the BNC, Power Audio adapter to Ethernet for the last camera you did & what is it named?
I'm looking at a camera system & would rather run a single Ethernet cable for each camera through a wall then make a hole big enough to fit the 2 plugs of each cable through
Edit: Found some on Amazon.com & will likely use these when/ if I install a camera system similar to yours
I just saw this comment, sorry. I'm glad you found them :-)
I love your videos, I learn a lot from them, I have to adapt what i can do here in Canada but I have plans.... now what I have to figure out is the heat/ac on winter/summer....
Forgive my confusion...
But if you already have ethernet cables run, why not go for a POE DVR and POE Cameras?
Im guessing becuase most solutions are more expensive as far as i know
You can make your own injector for next to nothing though.
Great video. Does it get hot in your attic where you installed the DVR, will the heat be a problem long term?
It gets warm, but not ridiculously hot. I have temperature sensors in there reporting to MQTT so I can track it. When the house was renovated we were quite obsessive about insulation, so it has two layers of insulation directly under the roof, then another layer on the ceiling. It's made a big difference to the temperature stability of the house.
Are they able to autofocus? Please discuss in a followup video how to focus. And also would love to see a video on how to send transmission to another tv to view camera like you mentioned.
Those particular cameras are fixed-focus, but some other cameras have autofocus. I'm going to do another video later about how to distribute the video feed around the house, so that I can view the cameras from all the TVs in the house. I have a few other videos underway first though.
Hi, I know this is an older video. Have you made an update yet? I would love to see if you could have the motion trigger a light or something via MQTT.
Another great video mate, always love your stuff! I have been hold off on installing something similar for a long time and this is great inspiration. Would also be nice to see a video on the other aspects that you mentioned you did not get time to touch on.
Thanks :-) I want to do a follow-up video later, showing things like whole-house video distribution (so you can pull up cameras on any TV in the house, for example) and maybe alternative software. Different types of cameras could be interesting, too.
Now on to my 3rd generation of home CCTV - Zoneminder, analogue DVR, 3mp IP DVR, etc) , I can say Zoneminder was the biggest PITA of them all. DVR boxes like these are far more reliable & the live HDMI output to TV's is also very handy.
my zoneminder experience did not go well either.
Great Video. I have a 10 camera system with a 2Tb HD. So glad you reminded me of the ethernet extenders! I know I will have 2 or 3 spots that need more than 60ft. I bought this system about a year ago (still have not installed it!!). Please make a follow-up video for those great features you spoke about at the end. I would like to come up with a way to have my HD tv in my bedroom automatically switch from regular tv programs to the cameras if motion is detected.
Great stuff, don't believe you found the fishing wire so quickly though 😆
You got me! I originally tried it with a piece of yellow-tongue, but I couldn't get it through the insulation. So I switched to the wire, which went through easily. It really did end up in that position though, because I measured from the side wall to get both holes lined up vertically :-)
seems a few of the Annke systems offer PoE cabling.. what is the ethernet RJ45 plug for on the recorder box? for NAS storage or connect to a network?
looking forward to part 2!!!!
hi am dj west ar u ok
In the UK the cable with coax and power is known as shotgun cable. Also the converter from BNC to cat 5 then back to BNC is known as BALUN. it changes the signal from balanced to unbalanced. I find that the quantity is not the great compared to BNC but yours look unnoticeable.
I still have one unanswered question that I am thinking about installing the system in my house overseas.What happens when I choose only the motion detection and the 1 TB hdd gets full then what I can do from sitting in a foreign country? Does it stop recording or restart automatically deleting the old recording or watch it using internet and delete using an app on the smart phone or pc remotely?
By the way, Happy new year to your projects and your loved ones, to you too.
My only concern with doing home automation is security.
I would not want it connected to any internet or phone companies.
Basically I have 2 separate networks of both ethernet & wifi...one intranet & one internet.
Can this setup still be used on my local intranet so it will be secure?
If you were to use a brand new HDD would you have to partition the HDD before you install it or will the Linux OS on the DVR manage that at for you at first power up?
At about 31 minutes you talk about the Sonoff and presence detection. What method do you use to determine presence? All the methods I'm familiar with have reliability issues, but I'm interested in what method you prefer.
This is probably one of the most frustrating aspects of home automation for me at the moment. If it was possible to reliably track the location of every person in the house, it would open up so many cool possibilities! I currently use OpenHAB's network health plugin to check for the presence of various mobile phones on the local network, so that I know if particular people are home. I also use PIR motion detectors to figure out which rooms are likely to have people in them. PIRs are great for detecting unexpected intrusion (someone came into a house when it's meant to be unoccupied) and terrible at detecting occupancy. Sit still for 30 seconds and suddenly the home automation system has no idea you're in the room. In the past I've experimented with IR beacons (a badge you wear that identies you to a receiver in the room) but that is a terrible user experience. I've also experimented with a Kinect to do volume analysis, so it could know (for eg) if there is someone lying still on a couch. I've also used face detection in video streams, with very patchy results. I've spent a lot of time trying to solve this problem and haven't found anything that comes close to being a good solution.
Great Video!
what do you call those cable extender (UDP to COAX ?)and where can I get few of does? any link please?
Thank you so much.
I have the same configuration and it is not working for me, do you sell those adapters? Also I cannot get the camera's to go WIFI. I probably need more channels on my Router, which I will look into later.
What type of DVR system would be able to link up to OpenHAB where you can actually view your cameras online?
Very nicely done, clear and easy to follow. Thank you.
You can access you security system via Android App to monitor your cameras with your smartphone remotely. This Annke brand seems to be a ' Dahua ' rebranded dvr. If it's true look for app called ' GDMSS Lite ' in play store and install it. It's very convenient way to monitor your system when you are away.
Hi Jon, I really like your videos, I think you should have your own tv show! following on from the above comment, I went to the Annke website and noticed they have POE 4mp cameras with an app for you phone etc. Is there a reason you didn't go for these?
No particular reason, I just wanted to try coaxial cameras for something different to what I already had installed.
great video ! What do you thnik about POE security camera systems? I want to build something similar to what you did, but I want to use POE cameras and store the video on a NAS (already have a ZyXEL). I think it's easier this way to stream video to smart-TV's, smartphones,etc.
That's a great solution if you already have the NAS.
i have a wifi system now is there a way to download the flash and do some changes and uplaod it again? why i want to do that is, i want to change the ip range to the one i use. the manufactur says you can´t change it.... i would be very thankfull for some help.
This looks really cool except that windows requirement is a show stopper since I have no windows machines in the house, only mac os and linux/rp. I did a quick search and found ZoneMinder which can run on an old PC under linux and from my quick look it would have most likely supported your existing cameras as well as allowing upgrade to better cameras in the future.
Why did you go with annke over a something like Zone Minder?
Gordon.
Wow, ZoneMinder, I'd forgotten about that! I ran it many years ago with USB cameras, and didn't even remember that it existed. I'm like you with no Windows, I had to install Windows using Bootcamp on my iMac to try the remote access. I should look at ZM again.
I have little experience with linux, but love the concept of it. I have tried several times to completely switch. I have tried zoneminder and could not get it to work how i wanted. I found it to freeze up on me frequently. Though my lack of linux experience and know how might have been to blame. ispy for windows is what i am currently using as a recording device for my ip cams. Tinycam monitor on android or Chromebox is a great real time viewer program
Thankyou, great video, learned a lot. Bought a 4K Ultra HD 8CH H.265 CCTV Camera System with 4/8Weatherproof Camera Annke today
I can't get my ankke to show on the screen. Does the internet have to be hooked up to work? Or the mouse?
Hey. Great video. This is quite late but I've been trying to look for a cctv system and aanke seems to be what I'm aiming for. I want to get a hd system but I need to know whether your able to distinguish a cars number plate.
Definitely, if it's reasonably in the field of view. The image is much better than the cheap WiFi cameras I had previously.
SuperHouseTV Thanks. This helps heaps!
I have a 16 channel 2K Q-SEE camera system, it has the same UI as yours from what I saw in this video.
I was wondering if you tried video streaming. I use VLC media player to view RTSP streams from the DVR, I know it works with OS X, Ubuntu, and even KODI on a Raspberry Pi. They also have a Q-SEE app to view it on a mobile devices, even outside the network.
I'll have to try that. I've been using VLC to view RTSP streams from a couple of my IP cameras, but I assumed the ANNKE software didn't expose RTSP. If it does, that'll be a big help.
I hope that works out for you.
I've been looking for a system for a while so I was interested in this video. I did think that the cameras would be driven using a network cable (for power and picture) so I was surprised to see the coax and separate power cable used.
After checking out the Annke website I found you can have a NVR (as opposed to this DVR) solution.
I think I might opt for the NVR (see below) unless there is reason not to?
SANNCE 4CH 1080P PoE NVR HD Security Camera System w/ 4 2.1 Megapixels 1920*1080P Weatherproof CCTV Bullet Camera, Power Over Ethernet, Smart Recording, Quick Scan QR Code Quick Remote Access
Sure, an NVR is a great way to do it too. This just happened to be the package that I got because I wanted to get some experience with a non-IP based system.
SuperHouseTV I just bought a Synology DS216 Play with a couple of PoE cameras. Very impressed.
First impressions, it needed Gb comms or it's too slow.
You are so good at figuring things out with Python and stuff like that.
Isn't there a way to figure things out with a computer language like Swift? Or, if you wanna go "basic", using Xojo?
I use the latter to hack hardware (Professional Sony Camera's in my case).
just an idea:
you dont need long hdmi cables
as long as your computers all
connect to the main pc
(via teamviewer)
and can this allow you to veiw the video from your smartphone? through an app i can just download?
question, can you put a solid state drive (SSD) into the dvr?
Great video. Looking forward to part 2!
Interesting video.
You should get a few pricelists from the chinese suppliers on Alibaba.
The latest prices I get are about US$15 for an AHD 1080p IR camera and about US$35 for the latest 8ch hybrid DVR (5-in-1 support HD-TVI/HD-CVI/AHD/Analog/IP Cameras).
The all supply sample quantities to anyone, in my experience.
are the cameras still working
Hello!
Usually, you can access the video streams of those DVRs directly without windows. On mine, there was a CD with lots of examples inside.
Try around a little bit with VLC on the device. My ports and address where:
rtsp://10.10.10.145:554/user=admin&password=&channel=1&stream=0.sdp?
Channel for the number of the camera and then you can choose stream 0/1 (high resolution, low res)
Maybe your system supports that direct access, too.
I am looking in to doing something similar. However, I was wondering about being able to tap in to those video feeds. I have been playing with computer vision with my HA system and being able to tap in to those video feeds would be awesome.
Interesting question. There are probably 2 ways to do it, but I don't know if this is practical. Firstly there may be a way to spit the raw signal from the camera so you feed it to both the DVR and to a video capture card for your HA system. Secondly your HA system may be able to connect to the DVR via the network and read the video stream, in a similar way to a smartphone or other device connecting to it. I'd love to hear what you do with this.
My day job is dealing with all streaming video. So I am curious what options these things have for outputting some video. You said that yours is using activex to display it correct? Have you tried to put anything like fiddler on that windows machine and check to see if that activex is calling a motion jpeg stream or rtsp? If so, the box itself may already be streaming (in a sense)
Ill drop you a DM on twitter if you want to chat
do you have color vison at night
Good video, with all the information I needed. Thanks for sharing!
very good I've ordered one and its really helped me , great stuff
Use IE on windows with Active X - Thats how most of the DVRS work.
This is a benefit to using an NVR as you could build it from an old PC and install something like Milesight but have full control not just from Windows PC's
The whole network connectivity on something other than Windows has been driving me nuts. I run Linux on my daily use machine, therefore... No ActiveX. Many cameras including the cheap Chinese ones, require ActiveX. So far I'm trying to get around that by using BluIris as an NVR.
what kind of car is in the drive way
could you provide the cat 5 adapter part number..
I have a cobra 8 channel system and rxcamview installed on my phone. My remote access works fine for 24-30 hours and then the remote access is disconnected. I have to reboot my DVR and as soon as I do, the remote access to my cameras work again. Then it fails again after 24 hours. Reboot and it works, then fails, etc. What is wrong...Can anyone help?
use internet explorer in windows ...i had the same problem until i did my research that was the only browser that works with the cameras ...as long as you have your ip address from the dvr it will work perfect on any computer with windows..and smart phone..
you can get a pci card to accept the coaxial cable system.
Could you buy the 8 cameras and DIY an box with capture card running linux ?
Absolutely. Open source DVR software like ZoneMinder running on PC hardware would do the job. Once you have more than about 4 cameras you start to run into bandwidth problems with things like disk throughput, so it's pretty common to run RAID arrays on larger camera systems. I have a spare 4-slot hot swap SATA array sitting on a shelf that I may use for something like that.
It amazes me with 16 gig of RAM , PCI-E 3 , 10G nic's , SATA3/6gbps , M2 SSD's and SSD's and drives (HDD/SSD/M2) seem to be still designed around single access not like the old "expensive" scsi stuff
Maybe get the CCTV/DVR to write via 10GE network link to a ZFS/Hardware Raid 6 file server with 6 drives all WD BLACKS for faster access or WD Red PROs
Looks pretty good for the price. But for automation i wouldn't use HDCVI camera's. Individual IP camera's (with the onvif standard) give you a lot more choices in the future for integration. Most of them have rtsp streams, screenshot functions, ...
For "cheap" camera's, some great brand would be Axis, Acti, hikvision & Dahua.
I think the set you are using is actually a rebranded Dahua set
As for recording you, there is plenty of free software if you want to run your own server. all of these brands also have NVR(recording boxes) if you prefer that.
Have a look at HDMI splitters, they're dirt cheap for multiple screens
Yes, I want to cover those in a future episode about whole-house video distribution.
SuperHouseTV I've found that hd rf modulation is a superior solution for video distribution. the issue with HDMI splitting is that... well... monitors of different types/sizes/resolutions don't like to play together.
Awesome video thanks
Nice video ! Thanks.
So, no quad divided screen and talk at the same time? :P
Damn, I missed the 80's :D
The software looks like the usual China DVR special - can you get an RTSP stream out of it? Stream path something like /cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=00&authbasic=XXXXXX
Oh and nerd homes will require more than a 8ch DVR too hah
why not using an NVR instead of DVR? ip cameras are more expansive but your cables are already installed...?
here in ISRAEL the price of NVR Vs DVR will be about 20-25% more.(overall with cameras...)
That's a great approach too, but I still want to use these IP cameras as well in other locations. I needed more cameras anyway, so I replaced some of the existing cameras with these new cameras and then I'll re-use the old ones.
I'm a Linux only user, so I don't like that side of it and it wouldn't work for me. However, I did love the size of that board and the fact it had 4 BNC HD Video inputs! I'd love a board like that to run Linux and use OBS Studio obsproject.com to capture the feeds so you could play with different setups and switching for live events. So my idea was more for live video production instead of home security. Anyone know a board like that that is Open Source/Supports Linux!?
I disagree with not seeing commercial places with IP cameras, in fact I see more IP cameras than analogue and AHD cameras although their not foscam's their proper enterprise grade stuff like Panasonic, Axis, Hikvision and Dedicated Micros
I wouldn't recommend the balun method simply because you are more likely to get interference, but if have existing Ethernet run then its an ok method, just not recommended, I had horrible interference with one of the cameras on our home system, but we recently switched it out to a IP camera and it works great
As with the only working with activex thing I would not trust it, even the first IP camera ever made (axis neteye 200) worked without activex, not sure why they still use it, hope that microsoft edge is going to put a stop to activex, I can just about live with a slow java applet but a windows only probably malware infected IE only applet, no, burn it to the ground, so many bad experiences with activex, can you tell?
Recomend a dust mask in attic. I could see what u were breathing
Shame the IP camera's dont plug into this CCTV box
This DVR does actually support IP cameras as well, but for each IP camera that you add, you have to disable one of the analog camera channels. I think that's because the hardware can only manage processing and storing 4 video sources at a time.
I would have gone for a 5 pack of ubiquiti cameras and my own pc with the free software they provide for them
A bit late given the age of this recording...... That is no way a 4K HD kit for that price. I am sure that is what you said but then there was a jump in the video that looked like an edit so you may have been talking about another camera type.
For info BNC and Phono connections normally only carry analog but you can send digital to some extent. This is more down to the manufacturers than bandwidth limitation of coax. The right type of coax cable has more than enough bandwidth to do the job. The problem is the cost of the hardware at each end. In order to send very high definition video some very expensive hardware and processing grunt is needed.
I have yet to see a consumer priced coax based NVR/DVR that will record in 4K. To get that resolution you normally need a cctv camera with cat5/6 that is usually powered by POE (Power Over Ethernet). The video and control is normally sent through the network via H.265 or MPEG-2 encoding for the video or will use a management and video protocol such as ONVIF and many others.
I am going by what is available in the UK. Here we use 50 or 60 Hz displays on normal home TV's, higher frequencies are normally only found on high end HD televisions and computer monitors. We use a video standard known as PAL-I in the UK. Different standards are used in other countries.
Make sure you do your research before handing over your money and if possible buy a recorder that will give you the ability to expand the system later.
If you want a very high quality no hassle cctv system then go for IP cctv cameras. Bellow are some links you may find helpful.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF
www.cctvcamerapros.com/remote-security-camera-viewer-software-apps-s/671.htm
www.cctv-information.co.uk/i/Transmission_of_Video_Signals_by_Cable
I hope this is of help to someone. :)
What if someone hacks into your network and sees what your seeing
That's a danger with networking anything. If someone gets onto my home automation network they won't just be able to see what I see: they'll be able to unlock doors, open windows, turn lights on and off, activate sprinkers, and do all sorts of crazy things. So I don't want that ;-)
SuperHouseTV how would you go about programming a tuff protection wall if that's the correct terminology to use.
Now that's a very big question! I'd need to do a whole episode about that. Actually, that's a good idea.
Don't you love it when they run crap like dotnet or active x on stuff like this ...... Considering how many people use tablet and mobile phone for surfing and the increased usage of chromebooks
I HATE IT! DEATH TO STUPID PLUGINS. Oops, sorry, my frustration showed there for a moment
Don't worry I upset game dev companies with my honest views too
ANNKE STOPPED WORKING AFTER 12MHTS IT IS A PIECE OF JUNK...
Hi can someone who knows alot about this get back to me please?
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I need to stop watching these videos, although it gives me a good laugh.
The siamese Coax/Power cable that come with those cheap CCTV kits are crap. You should just use proper RG56 or if you can find it RG6 siamese cable. Or future proof the setup and use Either Cat5e or Cat6 with Video Baluns.If you want to cheap out on the CCTV system then get a HikVision Value series kit or spend a little more and get a FLIR. Those two companies are the big boys of CCTV.
Came looking for a simple annke hook up but instead I watched something wayyyy over my head, sigh