how does tf2 decide who gets the assist?

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  • @shounic
    @shounic  4 роки тому +1651

    FAQ
    - TRY DO THIS IN THIS ORDER
    this information is confirmed by looking into the code, not learned by testing. this means that even if i didn't show something in the video, the information i've given you can be safely trusted. obviously, because of the numerous combination of things to test, i can't create an exhaustively comprehensive demonstration of everything - so for stuff like the medigun, i opted not to show every combination of order and weapons.
    though i fully expect you nerds to think of some other wild edge cases that even i haven't thought to test and there'll be a part two :))))
    also, update on the sapper stuff. sapping with another spy doesn't change anything. not 100% sure why but there's nothing new to report, so no part 3.
    (blanket disclaimer: idk if what i said makes sense, i didn't sleep well so i'll come back later to edit this with proper english if it sucks)
    thanks for reading, here are some bonus thumbnails: i.imgur.com/rOsjLXd.png i.imgur.com/AMyh1ZK.png

    • @bokieiey
      @bokieiey 4 роки тому +12

      you're welcome for reading

    • @skyixyes3971
      @skyixyes3971 4 роки тому +29

      amputator taunts can give assists btw (sorry to be that guy)

    • @spycookie6174
      @spycookie6174 4 роки тому +1

      But were any Baby Engie Mains harmed in the making of this video

    • @TehPlayer14
      @TehPlayer14 4 роки тому +11

      Sapper gives assist too if someone destroy the building before your sapper kills it

    • @BlazingShadowSword
      @BlazingShadowSword 4 роки тому +3

      Thanks for clarifying the stuff with multiple spies not affecting a bugged sapper. Very nice.

  • @borutoburrito6547
    @borutoburrito6547 4 роки тому +5010

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"
    Wow that was the shortest mystery novel I've ever read.

    • @QWERTY708100
      @QWERTY708100 4 роки тому +249

      Heavy Is Dead in a nutshell

    • @joeboyd1964
      @joeboyd1964 4 роки тому +111

      At least it's one of those mystery novels where the reader can solve it before the ending; those are satisfying

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 4 роки тому +80

      People die when they are killed.

    • @spaghettthesomeone9625
      @spaghettthesomeone9625 4 роки тому +21

      @@littlenyancat5754 wait really? Wow... The more you know

    • @b-17theflyingfortress
      @b-17theflyingfortress 4 роки тому +10

      @@QWERTY708100
      YA TA YATATA
      IT IS GOOD DAY TO BE NOT DED

  • @oktayyildirim2911
    @oktayyildirim2911 4 роки тому +1336

    1:41 "For debuffs, it tiebreaks by ordering the weapons by release date."
    I wouldn't expect anything less from Valve developers.

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 4 роки тому +149

      I find it quite smart, i expected then to just base everything on who joined first

    • @MickyVideo
      @MickyVideo 4 роки тому +171

      It actually works quite well and is possibly less computationally expensive.

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 2 роки тому +220

      @@bruschetta7711 Instead of being the player who joined first, it's the weapon who joined first

    • @h4724-q6j
      @h4724-q6j 2 роки тому +3

      What solution would you prefer them to use?

    • @Bluejet_007
      @Bluejet_007 2 роки тому +60

      @@h4724-q6j Something like who put debuffs first or last would have made more sense. Not the most accurate method, but makes way more sense.

  • @Tudsamfa
    @Tudsamfa 4 роки тому +1895

    The most important assists are pet accesories while in pyroland.

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 роки тому +147

      Dude I honestly forgot about those lol. I assume those would just rank last, like beneath damage

    • @258thHiGuy
      @258thHiGuy 4 роки тому +226

      @@christianaustin782 They only show up as an assist if there was no actual assist

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 роки тому +94

      @@258thHiGuy soooo technically correct that they rank last 😬

    • @KoboldCloaca
      @KoboldCloaca 4 роки тому +10

      Slithering scarf gang

    • @randomzergling
      @randomzergling 3 роки тому +17

      @@christianaustin782 Morale support

  • @kerbonaut2059
    @kerbonaut2059 4 роки тому +1072

    3:23 "This is a 10,000$ custom-tailored Louis Crabbemarche jacket. The cloth is from silkworms raised at a suit microfarm in Tuscany, from a secret pattern passed down by monk tailors since the 7th century."

    • @Kaiwala
      @Kaiwala 4 роки тому +112

      Then scout meets god or something idk

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes 4 роки тому +80

      You just ruined it by coating it in pee.
      Fuck you.
      -Spy

    • @apple-de8tx
      @apple-de8tx 4 роки тому +4

      laughing

    • @onedoompunchman7549
      @onedoompunchman7549 4 роки тому +22

      New unusual

    • @slyseal2091
      @slyseal2091 4 роки тому +17

      @Dick Faggotson - "the spy", seconds before realising that his current state would give the man in need of a diaper full crits.

  • @AceTheOcarinaMaker
    @AceTheOcarinaMaker 4 роки тому +2295

    A lot of weird kill credit in the past makes sense now. Great video as usual.

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 роки тому +12

      fancy seeing you here

    • @drcrooked2620
      @drcrooked2620 4 роки тому +6

      Excuse me there's only 2 comments on a ace comment why don't I see more

    • @dracon2963
      @dracon2963 4 роки тому +3

      Nice it’s you ace im a big fan

    • @Destro65
      @Destro65 4 роки тому +2

      Oh look its ace

    • @cameonmate4293
      @cameonmate4293 4 роки тому +2

      hi dad

  • @bareodin
    @bareodin 3 роки тому +548

    Fun fact you forgot to mention: if a pyro reflects a stun ball at an enemy player who then dies, the assist goes to the enemy scout. This can results in sometimes an enemy scout getting an assist in his own death.

    • @Lilithksheh7723
      @Lilithksheh7723 2 роки тому +78

      That’s a “you played yourself” moment right there.

    • @Hugonche29
      @Hugonche29 2 роки тому +90

      Same if a friend medic heals an enemy spy who backstabs a teammate.
      Actually, both scenarios allow players to dominate players from their own team!

    • @theweirdwolf1877
      @theweirdwolf1877 2 роки тому +62

      Imagine dominating yourself

    • @quintonwinton7210
      @quintonwinton7210 2 роки тому +16

      @@Hugonche29 i believe it lets medic dominate himself

    • @modmaniamadness
      @modmaniamadness 2 роки тому +2

      @@quintonwinton7210 revenge crits

  • @krisztianpapp6717
    @krisztianpapp6717 4 роки тому +643

    all of the dripping effects looks like an unusual effect waiting to happen

    • @topminator1667
      @topminator1667 4 роки тому +125

      new unusual effect added: dripping toilet

    • @Wittymations
      @Wittymations 4 роки тому +50

      @@topminator1667 I'm thoroughly disgusted. Add it, Valve.

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 роки тому +28

      that would be op because you couldnt ever tell if someone had a debuff

    • @krisztianpapp6717
      @krisztianpapp6717 4 роки тому +20

      @@gangstascout3593 Well, it could be a orbiting effect like nuts n bolts or else but am sure they could implement it in a non game breaking way maybe

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 роки тому +35

      @@krisztianpapp6717 idk man, i mean who would want to have a water,milk,piss and motor oil aura around their head

  • @davistoa
    @davistoa 4 роки тому +1975

    It's amazing how you keep finding questions to things that are so interesting, yet I never really thought that hard about before. You're pretty much the only TF2 content creator still full of fresh ideas, so hats off to that.

    • @RoastCDuck
      @RoastCDuck 4 роки тому +25

      Thats why this is one of the fews UA-cam channel related to TF2 that i watch now since i quit TF2 on december 2019, I don't want to call this a TF2ber as its content is technical and debugging, something different from the main TF2 theme, pointing out flaws, facts, pros and cons, literally answering useful questions and pointing whats wrong with the game, not something alot of TF2bers do since they are scared of talking or pointing out flaws on TF2 which is their main problem, no one talks or asks what really is wrong with the game or how does it work in the core and proceeds to lie to themselves and the community about the current state of the game, is not running on its full potential that time was long ago, the game is struggling and dying.

    • @Gotmilk0112
      @Gotmilk0112 4 роки тому +21

      Hats off? No, hats on.

    • @burnzey4470
      @burnzey4470 4 роки тому +1

      @Kody Pendleton i know right? these small questions are so much more intriguing and engaging than"gttthhhk wacky map *wheeze*"

    • @Scoutscout1000
      @Scoutscout1000 4 роки тому +5

      this one is actually something i've always wondered, I hate headshotting someone and they die right after and I dont get the assist.

    • @endig4501
      @endig4501 4 роки тому +2

      I haven't even played TF2 since the matchmaking update and I still watch these videos. It's good stuff.

  • @bukachell
    @bukachell 4 роки тому +167

    Imagine if it just included everyone on the list of assisting actions and like 20 dudes all work together to kill one engineer

    • @UH-60_Blackhawk
      @UH-60_Blackhawk 2 роки тому +4

      infinitely long kill feed

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 5 місяців тому +9

      Some “you were killed again by the sentry gun of the late” type shit

  • @supersonicfan6404
    @supersonicfan6404 2 роки тому +67

    3:24 Wow, spy has some SERIOUS drip!

  • @ducksociety3514
    @ducksociety3514 3 роки тому +291

    Shounic: "If I shoot someone, I'm the killer"
    Audience: "Dear god"
    Shounic: "There's more..."
    Audience: "No"

  • @hexa138
    @hexa138 4 роки тому +183

    Guy I'm dominating: [Gently blows my hair]
    Me: [Dies 25 years later]
    Game: THAT'S AN ASSIST. HE GOT REVENGE ON YOU!

    • @sillypinkmoth
      @sillypinkmoth Рік тому +4

      i smell frustration

    • @yetanotherperson1833
      @yetanotherperson1833 8 місяців тому +4

      Meanwhile I deal like 75 damage to a scout, a soldier finish hims off, and I get rewarded with absolutely nothin

    • @UNALLOYEDSLOP
      @UNALLOYEDSLOP Місяць тому +3

      Guy I’m dominating 🥵😳

    • @hexa138
      @hexa138 26 днів тому

      @@UNALLOYEDSLOP holy shit is that a sex reference

  • @jankkhvej434
    @jankkhvej434 4 роки тому +91

    can we talk about how this guy is literally the 3kliksphilip of tf2?

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus 4 роки тому +10

      I went in the other direction, I started watching 3kliksphilip even though I don't play CSGO

    • @dinonuggiesguy4847
      @dinonuggiesguy4847 4 роки тому

      Same lol

  • @Hoodiebud
    @Hoodiebud 4 роки тому +67

    3:18 When you run for 1 second.

  • @Bobcat1573
    @Bobcat1573 4 роки тому +652

    Me: “does 2990 damage to heavy robot”
    Scout out of no where: “uses pistol”
    Spy out of no where: “facestabbs it”
    Me:”doesn’t get even a assist”

    • @Fel1xF7W
      @Fel1xF7W 4 роки тому +24

      i mean you got unlucky because of the scout but if you don't frag the enemy you shouldn't appear in the killfeed

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 роки тому +41

      team: "ree can't you do your fucking job"

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 роки тому +29

      I don't think you know what quotes mean

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 роки тому +2

      @@cavalcadeofbobs3559 I have this feeling you forgot what dialogue means

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 роки тому +23

      @@Manavine really, then I would like you to read that comment out like each character says the quoted words. Instead of, y'know, asterisks because these are actions and not dialogue.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 роки тому +223

    So that's why it's pretty common for a decent medic to top score, just heal everyone and you'll get the credit xD

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 роки тому +114

      Medics earn it though, they really do make or break the team in most games

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 роки тому +65

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Exactly, if a medic is top scoring that means he is frequently, if not always, healing the people in a battle or people running toward frontline, hell yea

    • @awabfarass9054
      @awabfarass9054 4 роки тому +2

      @@MeekerMW why did you say the same thing 3 times?

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 роки тому +1

      @@awabfarass9054 ah fuck

    • @JellyMyst
      @JellyMyst 4 роки тому

      So you're a fan of TF2 as well as vtubers? Nice.

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 роки тому +81

    Me: *does 90% of damage to enemy*
    Random sniper getting overhealed: *body shots and kills them*
    Game: *credits the sniper and medic*
    Me: "What the fu-"

  • @Umicron_
    @Umicron_ 4 роки тому +411

    Does uber-ing the killer increase the medic's priority? Like if the second medic to heal the killer Ubers the killer before they get the kill do they get the assist?

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 роки тому +125

      Lol something similar to me happened last night. I was running stock medi gun and another medic went kritzkreig. We both had Uber and popped in on a pyro (killed like 8 people it was epic). Even though I popped Uber before him, only the pyro and the kritz medic got credit for the kills, since he started healing the pyro first

    • @kamils6975
      @kamils6975 4 роки тому +81

      Ubering does not increase priority

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 4 роки тому +2

      Medigun, Kristkreig, and Quickfix Ubers should count

    • @allenholloway5109
      @allenholloway5109 4 роки тому

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Good to know.

    • @sampletext9426
      @sampletext9426 4 роки тому +9

      @@Nigel-nv3lr
      now imagine a pyro ubered by stock, kritz and quickfix

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 роки тому +229

    I love how even after 13 years, we still have something we don't know about TF2 and it's still being analyzed
    I just hope TF2 team didn't update the game too soon, so this video is going to be useful... Oh wait

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 4 роки тому +4

      This video will be useful until they release Half-Life 3....in other words, your grandkids will still be referencing it.

    • @ruruisu
      @ruruisu 4 роки тому +1

      Thank source leak for a lot of these

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 4 роки тому +78

    Another reason why the Jarate is the superior weapon

    • @razormaw
      @razormaw 3 роки тому +6

      Tis first time i saw you with so little likes and comments. Quite alien

    • @abdogad1
      @abdogad1 8 місяців тому +1

      Fr

  • @dingchat555
    @dingchat555 4 роки тому +22

    Bit of a correction on 5:40: A spy can get an assist on a destroyed building if he places a sapper on the building and a teammate destroys the building while it is being sapped.

    • @kuni2330
      @kuni2330 Рік тому +2

      Other teammates destroying a building with a sapper still gives the Diamondback crits as well.

  • @JemiDove
    @JemiDove 4 роки тому +135

    A videoediting question (anyone can answer); how did you get the TF2 animated character models (and any animated ingame special effects associated with them) with a transparent background such that you could composite in your own background? Did you capture videos of them against a greenscreen custom map or something?

    • @shounic
      @shounic  4 роки тому +88

      yes

    • @JemiDove
      @JemiDove 4 роки тому +20

      @@shounic I see, thanks for the insight :D

    • @hogpilot9735
      @hogpilot9735 3 роки тому +2

      You can use loadout.tf to get the animations you want and add cosmetics.

  • @Kenajcrap
    @Kenajcrap 4 роки тому +26

    great vídeo as always. But although you explained that the first medic to start healing you gets priority on the assist, I think it would be worth mentioning that this even applies if the second medic Ubers or Kritz the target.
    It is too common for a gibus medic who is just following a random guy to steal a good 5 or 7 assist when I Kritz him, simply because I commited the sin of healing my team as a whole, switching targets constantly and launching arrows :(

  • @nubert916
    @nubert916 3 роки тому +14

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I am the killer"
    What a great quote to start the video

  • @BotAurelionSol
    @BotAurelionSol 4 роки тому +17

    3:18 "As if I would ruin a $3000 Dollar suit. Good. Good" - Spy

    • @Lactopurg4
      @Lactopurg4 3 роки тому +1

      is that from the comics?

    • @mane8246
      @mane8246 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lactopurg4 is a voice line

  • @shurbrrt
    @shurbrrt 4 роки тому +98

    3:18 women after they see my lego bionicles collection

  • @AzzieEquinox
    @AzzieEquinox 4 роки тому +46

    After Jungle Inferno, airblasting people into kill barriers will sometimes ignore the airblast, crediting nobody for the kill. It'll just credit anyone who did damage.
    Additionally, the Shortstop's push will never credit you for pushing an enemy into a kill barrier, despite it dealing 1 damage.

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 роки тому +12

      Man every day i discover new ways in which the shove is useless

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 роки тому +3

      You're disgusting

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 роки тому

      @@viporal7898 why? Because of the furry avatar?

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 роки тому +4

      @@mohammadwaled409 you guessed correctly

    • @theali8oras274
      @theali8oras274 4 роки тому +4

      @@viporal7898 you're disgusting

  • @kingjensen8091
    @kingjensen8091 4 роки тому +20

    *hits guy for 8 with the pistol*
    TF2 when that person dies: Good work!

  • @Finluz
    @Finluz 4 роки тому +37

    "If I shoot someone, and they die, I'm the killer. Anyway, back to TF2..."

  • @Calzonieee
    @Calzonieee Рік тому +10

    0:01 You may be a killer, but you ain't man enough to be the Killa.

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 10 місяців тому

      why didn't you just say 0:00

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee 10 місяців тому

      @@DavidGaming69 ignore alt deletes your comment

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 10 місяців тому

      @@Calzonieeewhat?

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee 10 місяців тому

      @@DavidGaming69 Ignore: Ignores comment
      Alt: Reverts attack
      Delete: Deletes attack

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 10 місяців тому

      @@Calzonieeeim confuse

  • @creamgravy5732
    @creamgravy5732 4 роки тому +2

    As a comp player and engineer main who often uses the frontier justice, thisis actually really valuable information
    Thank you! Been trying to figure this out for quite some time after thinking I should get sentry assists but them just not happening, but now I know that my damage has to be the most recent damage, and within 3 seconds, and debuffs or bluffs or healing can get in the way of assists being awarded to me sentry. Also, odd thing, it seems as though it is impossible for an engineer's sentry to get an assist from the engineer who built it, by which I mean if someone is peppered by my sentry and I finish them with my shotgun, no assist will be awarded

  • @Kimri
    @Kimri 4 роки тому +12

    3:19 The fact that you don't have any reason to do this but you did it anyway is why i love your content.

  • @ChipDrewPog
    @ChipDrewPog 8 місяців тому +2

    Another thing for buildings: You can also assist in destroying a building if it's sapped, if you hit a sapped building and it dies to the sapper you get an assist on it
    I think it works the other way around too where the spy gets the assist for sapping a building that is then destroyed but I'm not entirely sure.
    Though I don't know how a medic's healing plays into this, further testing is required.

  • @ismaelcortes1698
    @ismaelcortes1698 4 роки тому +24

    The Healing amputator Taunt effect count like "healing" (like the medigun) or like a "buff"?

  • @spadesauce3391
    @spadesauce3391 4 роки тому +8

    I just love how clean his videos are

  • @MrBump2
    @MrBump2 4 роки тому +6

    I've always wondered about a lot of this, thanks for explaining. Many times I've never received obvious assist kills in a quick skirmish. Like, only the killer would get a single credit while I was attacking the enemy also. Must have been some of these unnamed instances you showed. Good video.

  • @Keiinnn
    @Keiinnn 4 роки тому +1

    Woaaaah, the editing was great, keep up the good work dude!

  • @alchemispark7751
    @alchemispark7751 4 роки тому +8

    1:09 POV you're about to get vibe checked

  • @ThePikminCaptain
    @ThePikminCaptain Рік тому +1

    Don’t forget the 5th spot in the assist credit list, items like the nabler/balloonicorn etc

  • @killerspieler7784
    @killerspieler7784 4 роки тому +39

    "If i shoot somone and they die i'm the killer" Yep. That's how the law works.

  • @asdf-23512
    @asdf-23512 11 місяців тому +2

    Imagine getting kill priority over a pocket medic by gassing all their should have been assists

  • @frazer_1997
    @frazer_1997 4 роки тому +153

    Cute girl: "Hi! How you doing?"
    Me, an introvert, sweating, pissing myself and puking out: 3:23

    • @palidengamer2540
      @palidengamer2540 4 роки тому

      first like

    • @Marsaw
      @Marsaw 4 роки тому +17

      Where does the milk come from?

    • @ridhosamudro2199
      @ridhosamudro2199 4 роки тому +31

      @@Marsaw probably it's not milk in his case

    • @AviansEnthusiast
      @AviansEnthusiast 4 роки тому +24

      Hate to be that guy, but introverts aren't necessarily bad at socializing with people. You can be an introvert and be more confident around people than extroverts, it happens. Main thing is that introverts like their time alone, as that helps them recharge themselves from socializing and is where they feel most comfortable.
      Nonetheless, you're just making a meme

    • @Cece-Cece
      @Cece-Cece 4 роки тому +2

      @@AviansEnthusiast neat info

  • @memesmemes3143
    @memesmemes3143 8 місяців тому +1

    so .... the sandman stun feature LITERALLY has the highest top priority in giving assist !!

  • @commenter_HIMIK-MAN
    @commenter_HIMIK-MAN 4 роки тому +11

    3:18 Looks like he's dripping Skittles.

  • @thediamonddragon1256
    @thediamonddragon1256 2 роки тому +1

    “If I shoot someone and they die, I’m the killer”
    The more you know

  • @toanuva6178
    @toanuva6178 3 роки тому +4

    0:06, I think federally they’re called an accomplice

  • @siewierszczyzna
    @siewierszczyzna 4 роки тому +2

    IIRC Spies also get assists if they sap a building that someone else destroys.
    I.E. If a Spy saps a sentry, but a Demoman blows it up after the sapper is placed but before the sapper actually destroys the building, the Spy will get an assist.

  • @alphagem7080
    @alphagem7080 3 роки тому +4

    You forgot about the spy when he saps a building and someone else destroys it the spy gets credit for the sapper

    • @VagueCastle649
      @VagueCastle649 2 роки тому

      Since sappers are technically buildings that apply a debuff to engineer buildings, the spy gets the assist over the medic.
      _(Unfortunately does not apply to the cow mangler)_

  • @chadasmr8304
    @chadasmr8304 2 роки тому +1

    I just really love how encouraging the system is for teamwork. Celebrates helping with recognition.
    I really do love tf2

  • @kazzafraz5607
    @kazzafraz5607 4 роки тому +9

    5:52 I must go, my people need me

  • @skepter4745
    @skepter4745 Рік тому +1

    Engineers were harmed at the making of this video

  • @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203
    @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203 4 роки тому +4

    The funniest killfeed will be forever assisted suicide by the enemy team

  • @DoctorX149
    @DoctorX149 4 роки тому +1

    You missed something- if a building is being sapped, but gets destroyed by another source of damage, the spy is credited with an assist.

  • @KT8D5
    @KT8D5 4 роки тому +33

    I just love when i almost kill an enemy and random soldier kills him wirhout my credit. Really, does it work or not?

  • @bingoos9641
    @bingoos9641 4 роки тому +1

    Rest in peace, jim.

  • @mrstudent9125
    @mrstudent9125 4 роки тому +5

    What about Spy’s sappers when crediting building destruction? I thought they always have the prioritiy.

  • @yourbuddymuddy
    @yourbuddymuddy 4 роки тому +2

    5:34 spies also get an assist credit if they have a sapper attached and someone else destroys the building

  • @squishybrick
    @squishybrick 3 роки тому +9

    1:52 is the jarate.. .. Behind his hand??

  • @sandunderrad
    @sandunderrad 4 роки тому +2

    Jim is not having a good day.

  • @ranibro
    @ranibro 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks for curing my depression

  • @juangarcia-nc6ur
    @juangarcia-nc6ur 4 роки тому +2

    the spy face at 0:44 looks like sadness materialized

  • @sh4dowveil749
    @sh4dowveil749 3 роки тому +2

    If a building is sapped then destroyed by someone then spy should always get the assist, wtf gaben

  • @deerymoredeer
    @deerymoredeer 4 роки тому

    Bless you for 3:21 I was so curious when you started throwing that at then engineer and wanted to see how it was with the 3 of them lmao

  • @NGoldtear
    @NGoldtear 4 роки тому +42

    I remember one time when I got a melee crit on a soldier taking him down to 5 HP, then the scout behind me shoots him for 5 damage immediately after, yet I don't get any assist at all? What's up with that?

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 роки тому +4

      Possibly mad milked by said scout ? As demonstrated in this video, any buff / healing self applied to the killer might prevent a damaging ally to the assist credit

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 роки тому +1

      @ a bit of a stretch, but maybe a soldier using the air strike is counted as "buffed" while in the air, due to the passive of the weapon ?

    •  4 роки тому

      @@lesabreur3 I doubt it!
      also it was an example but it happened many times
      sometimes i got full credit when I didn't deserved it ^^'
      other times I abused these mechanics to steal the assists when i dont deserve them either hehe

  • @awesomesauce7264
    @awesomesauce7264 4 роки тому

    Fukin finally a video explaining this. You have no clue how many times I've gotten a sniper down to 2 hp as scout only then for a pyro with his stupid jetpack to fly in, steal the kill, and not give me any credit for the assist. As you can see, I'm really mad about this.

  • @viporal7898
    @viporal7898 4 роки тому +8

    You forgot to mention the sappers on a building. When a spy saps the building and someone else destroys it, the spy gets the assist.

  • @charbomber110
    @charbomber110 4 роки тому

    I love the awkward pause at the end of the intro part, like that's just asking to be taken out of context.

  • @El_Don_Comedia
    @El_Don_Comedia 4 роки тому +8

    mate, it's pronounced as "conqueror". Spongebob lied to you

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu 4 роки тому

    Great video. One little comment though since it might confuse newer players. Of the two people listed, the person listed first is the person who dealt the final blow (the video has it backwards).
    So if it says "Player1 + Player2 Victim" you know that Player1 is a pyro.

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 4 роки тому +3

    Can we get an f in chat for jim?

  • @_Kisaragi
    @_Kisaragi 4 роки тому +1

    "if I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"

  • @vinicius6136
    @vinicius6136 4 роки тому +4

    hey shounic i know this is not related to the video but i have question: in the guide you made to use your crosshair in tftv the guy that explains talk about "weapon script" and i dont know where the fuck this is, can you help me? thanks.

  • @spidermanfan31
    @spidermanfan31 4 роки тому

    I've been wondering this for over a decade now thank you so much

  • @Gis_Animations
    @Gis_Animations 4 роки тому +4

    What if someone is healed by a crossbow? Would they get an assist?

    • @notster7114
      @notster7114 4 роки тому +1

      It has to be active healing to have any effect, passive healing doesn't mean anything for assists, sandviches and the like

  • @The_asdfghjkl
    @The_asdfghjkl 4 роки тому

    Kinda glad that this guy still does tf2 things.So many people left due to the lack of new content.Just glad he still enjoys making this stuff.

  • @stuff5757
    @stuff5757 4 роки тому +5

    Hey I'm in the video at the top right corner of the screen 0:11

  • @thespectacularlymonochrome7891
    @thespectacularlymonochrome7891 3 роки тому +1

    me dealing 299 damage to Heavy and then proceeding to get 0 assists when Scout deals 1 damage to him

  • @MarkoVasev
    @MarkoVasev 2 роки тому +2

    @1:47 God i miss the stunn so fucking bad guys the current sandman is so boring but the stun was so fun.

  • @SU76M
    @SU76M 4 роки тому

    Damn, I like your analysis videos so much. It's so informative!

  • @TheFlamingPiano
    @TheFlamingPiano 4 роки тому

    This thought randomly popped into my head a while ago, particularly about mad milk scout or medic getting the assist. Then I see this video.

  • @matteo-ciaramitaro
    @matteo-ciaramitaro 3 роки тому +1

    Buildings recognize assists if the spy is sapping it and someone else destroys it. Happened today while I was playing spy.

  • @bobsbrain397
    @bobsbrain397 4 роки тому

    Thank you for answering just about every TF2-related shower thought I've ever had

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu 3 роки тому +1

    Personally, even though the buff priority is arbitrary, I feel like it is accidentally correct since I feel the heal on attack as the one least likely to have helped you make the kill. One buff increases damage. Two buffs increase survivability, but one of them only does so if you connect your shots while the Battalion's Backup buff is passive.

  • @foggyshades8338
    @foggyshades8338 4 роки тому

    All in all, perfect video! The only think you forgot to mention is sappers on buildings. If a spy has sapped a building and it gets destroyed by someone else... That spy always get the destruction assist!

  • @dylanw.4598
    @dylanw.4598 4 роки тому

    idk why but I absolutely love your editing

  • @Diamond_Knight8
    @Diamond_Knight8 4 роки тому

    Finally! Been waiting for someone to explain this, 7 years of playing the game and I never understood it.

  • @marcelolemen1632
    @marcelolemen1632 4 роки тому +1

    So THAT'S how it works. I genuinely didn't know this.

  • @redacted_lol
    @redacted_lol 4 роки тому

    Yes! I was just wondering that recently. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @greasehardbody4018
    @greasehardbody4018 2 роки тому +1

    4:07 - Well, I guess that makes 1 total reason to use the Buff Banner over the other Soldier banners.

  • @orangy57
    @orangy57 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making this, I've always wondered if there was a time limit to getting assists since you can sometimes do over 140 damage to an enemy and then not get the assist, yet some other class who barely did any damage still gets the credit.

  • @DJL3G3ND
    @DJL3G3ND 4 роки тому +1

    wow I always just thought it was killer + damager but bloody hell tf2 has so much attention to detail

  • @stevienitro
    @stevienitro 4 роки тому +1

    So....basically all those times when I've been dealing with an enemy that's 1 shot away from dying, fucking dies by another scout and jarate combo.

  • @alexandredesouza3692
    @alexandredesouza3692 4 роки тому

    You're editing is Godly.

  • @Lirkz
    @Lirkz 2 роки тому +1

    "if i shoot some guy and i die im the killer" ah yes this floor here is made out of floor

  • @Scout-Fanfiction
    @Scout-Fanfiction 2 роки тому

    That poor Spy. And those poor Engies. Thanks for these tidbits of info :).

  • @XallModel0
    @XallModel0 4 роки тому

    Dude I love your content you are awesome and i think you really deserve more subs. Keep growing (:

  • @mewstiq
    @mewstiq 4 роки тому +1

    omg, I didn't realize I had autoplay on and I just suddenly hear, "If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer".

  • @guilhermedom2228
    @guilhermedom2228 4 роки тому +1

    I pissed the entire enemy team, but the medic curing the heavy was with the assistance...
    "This is outrageous, it's unfair"
    Anakin Skywalker, Sniper main

  • @TF2Teleposter
    @TF2Teleposter 4 роки тому +1

    3:19 the saddest spy