It sucks when your parents refuse to acknowledge things like this in your youth. I’m in High School and I’m retaking 4th grade math and can’t recognize patterns, terms, angles, listing, etc. My mom refuses to believe I might have a learning disability because “everyone struggles with math”.
Oh my! I’m sorry! Sometimes people think you just don’t want to do, they just don’t understand that there is something called Dyscalculia. I know because I’m a teacher and I have learned about it.
Modern society is so unfair, and quite honestly just downright flawed and stupid. I know this one kid named Tommy who suffers from severe down syndrome, to the point where he can't even talk, and he rocks back and forth because of the autism. But he's a fifth grader, and he's able to do college University level math. He has the math comprehension of someone who's getting their bachelor's degree, and he's only in the fifth grade. But he doesn't understand other basic concepts. As if everybody's brains are structured and work the same. It is just dumb how the education system works. It simply doesn't work. And I too never got the hang of math, but I'm what society sees to call on the surface normal and functional. Funny thing is, I got bad math skills, but I score on above average when it comes to speech skills, and abstract thinking. You will never know I have Asperger's unless I told you, or to tell me to do math in my head.
Hi Hannah Køhl, We're sorry to hear you've felt so alone, but glad you found us. You might be interested in the podcast episode from "In It" about dyscalculia too. u.org/3d7Cqep While it's primarily for parents of kids who learn and think differently, there is a lot of information that can help people of all ages. Best, The team at Understood
Both my son & myself have this & struggled throughout our entire school careers. There are no words to describe how good it felt when I came across an article discussing this. Describing exactly what I... we have been trying to overcome our entire lives, to put a name to it, learn that it is actually being recognized, studied, talked about & taken seriously. I'm 46 & only really learned/heard anyone talking about it a few years ago. I was so excited that I immediately called my son to tell him that there was a name for what we have & instead of having to try to explain why we struggle with certain things or the way our brains worked to other people now we had something to call it. We had proof that it wasn't because we were just lazy students who didn't apply themselves.
@@marcojuanta9948 me too dude its hard since my parents doesn’t speak English I have to translate for them when the landlord come he always talk about numbers and money its very hard for me
Another quick observation. Giving a person with dyscalculia more time on a test or assignment is absolutely useless. So is tutoring. Our brain is not wired to understand mathematical concepts no matter how much time you give us or how many times you explain something to us.
i completely agree. my teachers get frustrated with me because i have such bad dyscalculia that i can't multiply or divide, and since i'm a senior in high school, my math teacher expects me to square root but i don't even know what that is.
YES, thanks!! I always felt it's so useless but at the same time I felt unthankful for not really being able to use that "advantage" But I don't just take longer to solve problems Most times I just don't get it at all
Also Art class was a safe haven. It was where I the genius. One day a group of kids were just watching me and another guy copy a famous painting with ease. One day a girl said” How can y’all do that and I cant it’s just art....” and they guy turned around and said “the same way you can do algebra and I just can’t”.....had to stop myself from bursting into tears right there.....year was 2002.
I chose Arts to avoid math. But then I had geometry and I couldn't do it. I was good at everything else but geometry. I'm still good at everything else 🙂
I was in the same boat. I absolutely excelled at my art classes and I was known as "the art kid" but sometime around the 8th grade Math just stop making sense to me. It was like this impenetrable block I couldn't burst through no matter how hard I tried. It was a miracle i passed the regents in New York state 1998.
My art teacher saw how much I feared my math class. I would break down in tears, or shut down altogether in my high school algebra classes. I don’t know if I have it, I excelled in every other subject including science. I did well in elementary school math. But around seventh or eighth grade, things just stopped making sense. I can recall my teachers face, it was like I had insulted her directly. She was fed up with me. I’ll never forget how awful it felt to be made to feel stupid....but I wasn’t. I tried so hard to understand complex equations, fractions, and sometimes it wasn’t so bad when I was following sling. but once I was tasked to do these equations on my own, I got lost. I can’t tell you how many tutors I had or how many would grit their teeth as I sat there in shame. I remember my art teacher mentioned this disorder. I brought it up to my parents and they didn’t take it seriously. They thought I just didn’t try hard enough. I was so excited for college, I wasn’t going to piss my life away. I had dreams to accomplish. I started with my local community college, tested out of the intro college English class, came close to it for history, and ended up with remedial algebra. I failed the first year. I paid out of pocket the second time around, and was so defeated I didn’t show up for my finals. I had tutors, I tried everything possible to get a passing grade but I knew I wouldn’t get it. That’s what broke me. I gave up school. I’m sitting on ten years of shame and regret and frustration and it dawned on me to look up that word, dyscalculia, mentioned by my high school art teacher so many years ago. To think I wasn’t just lazy or stupid, that there may have been a legitimate reason I struggled...to say I’m on the brink of tears is a simplification of the emotions I feel right now.
Wow, just wow. I am and art teacher and I have dyscalculia! I frequently observe student disabilities and I believe it is because artist observations are strong. Thank you for sharing this story. I am sorry you had to go through that.
Thank you for sharing your story. Based on what you wrote it sounds more like math anxiety - which is very real - instead of dyscalculia. I am in a Masters program now for Special Education and learning a lot about Specific Learning Disabilities and how they differ from serious learning difficulties. Your sentiments are valid and maybe knowing now why you might struggle can help as you continue in life.
This is my situation as well. Ever since I began to feel depressed around 5th grade everything else started to crumble but around 8th grade was when I began to struggle I remember in 7th grade I got a A but after I cant understand the subject, I try and try but it doesn't stick. It's like trying to read a foreign language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet. And when you're out on your own to solve math problems on your own you feel lost and overwhelmed as if you're in a foreign country. I graduate this year, math doesn't seem hard but when trying to solve it, I just can't. I had dreams of going to college etc...but sadly in high school my mental health declined and most of my dreams also died,I almost attempted to commit suicide once but I didn't. Nobody knows that I struggle so much with math but I'm sure my math teachers all know. I want to tell someone and address the situation but I feel like everyone will laugh at me and call me stupid including my Mexican parents. I graduate in 2021 and just to think that I'll go into adulthood being all dumb makes me stress and feel even more useless. I'm good at pretty much everything else except math. The worse thing is that everyone thinks I'm smart but little do they know that when it comes to math I'm the dumbest they'll ever meet. Freshman year I remember my teacher was reading aloud the names of students who had bad grades and I was one of them I felt so embarrassed when the bell rang I was coming out of class and a girl in my class passed by me and she said shockingly "Maria you have a F? I thought you were smart" and that made me feel so much worse. I'm trying my best to pass and understand but I can't and it also affected my mental health and my mental health has also affected my education. I'm afraid I won't graduate 😭 It hurts I want to understand math but I can't. I want to cry but I can't either. I feel so overwhelmed. I don't know what to do anymore. I wish I was equally good at math as I am in history, English, science, social sciences, languages 😭 Edit: No I have not been diagnosed but I wouldn't be surprised if I was diagnosed with this.
Hi Alex benadict, We're sorry you're struggling. We understand how difficult this can be but know you're not alone. If speaking with your parents is not something you're ready for, consider speaking with an adult in your life you fell comfortable with. While Understood.org was written with parents in mind, you my find this piece helpful: I’m Concerned My Child Might Have Learning and Attention Issues. Now What? u.org/2a8583R We hope this helps. Best, The team at Understood
I’m 13 and doing well, I screw math everyday, but I am gonna give everything to complies my dreams and wishes.. Biology is my best subject. I don’t know how to to lmao, screw that just like I said. Just do what you love.
@@arsheenzahid1972 Hey Alex I'll give you the 9's time table. 9x1= 0 9 9x2= 1 8 9x3= 2 7 9x4= 3 6 9x5= 4 5 9x6= 5 4 9x7= 6 3 9x8= 7 2 9x9= 8 1 9x10= 9 0 Do you see the 0 to 9 on the left side and the 9 to 0 on the right side? I use to carry this with me to remember my 9's, LOL! I am 78 years old and still use today!
Hi Mugi Senpai, We're sorry you're struggling with math. It's hard enough as it is and adding anxiety doesn't help. You might find the article "How I got over my fear of AP statistics (and passed!)" u.org/30kE60v interesting. We hope you can get the support you need to thrive in school and life. Please reach out if you need more help. Best, The team at Understood
Same its normal for me to feel nervous so in math i find it helps to just not put your hand up and if i get picked on by the teacher i say can I get some help it helps
I don’t think I have dyscalculia but however I get anxiety when someone ask me a simple math question, I can’t calculate at all when other in presence, I have to be in private. Because of this, I had some embarrassing dumb moments, especially with tutors, I feel anxiety whenever they ask me a question, even if a simple 6-7, I either stutter or time consume.
Hi kyky, We're sorry you're struggling. Anxiety, especially about math, is not uncommon. You might find this article about how a young woman handled her math anxiety useful. u.org/3h9pwjF We hope this helps. Best, The team at Understood
It is tragic that in 2020 almost no one knows how to teach math. Kids who understand math need minimal instruction, so little teaching occurs. Kids who don't understand are blamed for not learning, when in fact little actual, useful instruction is given. They are left behind and blamed for it. Shame on the curriculum developers and teacher colleges for such terrible work.
that is so true. had the problem with my final exam in math class this year. Not only was the situation already bad enough because of the corona virus but also didn’t our teacher give a single shit. We couldn’t contact him nor did he gave us material to work with unless about a week before the exam. He always used the „leaning by doing“ method and basically never explained anything twice.. he never understood that for most of the students this methof just didn’t work at all .. even though a lot of students kept on writing Es and Fs only he wouldn’t change his teaching method. The end result of the whole thing was that I got an E- in my final exam which really dragged my points down ..
@@deathwolfs69 They memorize. Memorize. MEMORIZE. In the early grades, there really isn't anything you need to "understand." American curriculum has overdosed on kids "understanding" math. It's hindering kids instead of helping because as the OP said, kids who are good at math don't need as much help. If you don't get those early math facts memorized, it's honestly game over by 3rd or 4th grade.
I am almost 60 years old and have had dyscalculia since about 5th grade. They didn’t know what it was or have any patience for it back then. My school was so small that we didn’t have special education, but if we had, I’m sure I would have ended up there. I never passed any math class from 5th grade on through college and graduate school. I made straight A’s in all my classes that didn’t require math so I was able to get by. I had a 30 plus year career as an educator and never did I use any math beyond simple addition and subtraction. Calculators and computers didn’t exist when I was in school so everything was pencil and paper. Eventually, I learned to use a pocket calculator but still struggle to understand how percentages, multiplication, division, and fractions work. I flunked out of several algebra classes and never understood what was going on. Teachers and my dad got so frustrated with me. I heard; “It’s so simple! Why can’t you see it?” So many times growing up. I finally got diagnosed my senior year of college when passing a basic math for teachers class was all that stood between me and graduation. I had taken the same class 5 times and had never earned a passing grade on any assignment or exam. My professor finally pulled strings to get me tested and that was the first time I ever knew dyscalculia existed. I’d never even heard the term and I was about to earn a degree in education. My professor finally passed me out of pity. When my GRE results came back for acceptance to graduate school, my advisor called me into his office and gave me the news. I had a perfect score on the verbal section of the test and the lowest score my university had ever seen on the math portion. I accidentally got a couple of math problems right and made it into graduate school by one point. I went on to graduate Magna Cum Laude with a master’s degree. So, I’m glad kids today have the support and resources of teachers who know about this problem and can offer solutions. When I was a principal, I would hear math teachers talking about students and recognized the signs of dyscalculia. Most of my teachers knew all about dyslexia but had no idea a similar condition existed regarding numbers. Anyway, a dyscalculia story from someone that suffered through this affliction when no one even knew what it was.
Bill Fowler well done for you, At least you got diagnosed, I’m only 30 and even when I went to school 15 years a go nobody knew nothing about dyscalculia
thank you for sharing. Same with me, high school and college was a nightmare for me. Math was always extremely difficult. I would fail tests left and right or barely pass. This was even if I studied for hours or had tutors. I would score really well in other classes and usually above average in english/ literature. When I think back on those times, it was extremely stressful for me and I'm so happy to be pursuing music full time, doing things I love and that I really excel at. Dyscalculia needs to be spoken about more, I didn't even know this existed at that time.
Sir im also like this of year im 25 but i never passed my grades in any matu subject they pass me only because of pity. Now im second year college trying to continue to dream again but math subject are my blockage to pursue. my dream i choose course with no math but still there is a subject that will be tackle this kind of matters. Been living like hell with this disorder im always shy and doesnt talk about number. The trauma of teacher and laughter of classmate and says youre an idiot! The punishment in front of the class when you dont know the answer.
I have discalculia, I was not helped in anyway in school. My reading and writing was always very good. I used to hide in the toilet before maths class so people didn't know I was in the remedial set.
I don't understand, all these videos say you never out grow dyscalculia, which is very true, but then they spend the entire rest of the video talking only about children with dyscalculia. Where are the videos about how it impacts people in their adult lives. People have lots of patients and understanding for children with learning difficulties, but when those same children become adults, they are expected to function as if the difficulty has somehow disappeared.
@@UnderstoodOrg Thank you. Please make a video about how adults are affected and how others can help make things a little easier on their dyscalculic coworkers without making us feel stupid or incapable. This is something we never outgrow and it impacts every facet of our lives yet almost no one has heard of it and no one understands it but others who are dealing with it.
I am 28 and still have a hard time counting change. I was super bad with math, but derivation was an exception. I was smarter than all the guys in school at derivation.
I have obviously had dyscalculia my whole life, but it took till i was 16 or 17 to get diagnosed with it. People always assumed i just wasnt "good at math", or i didnt try hard enough to read clocks, or i was just clumsy and couldn't tell left from right or read directions or see distance very well. I wish people realized that i had it sooner because ive gone years without help and am now going into college or university with the math competency of a 4th grader 😂😂
What is the approach to get a 16 year old diagnosed with learning disabilities? My son Started have issues at around 13 with not being able to concentrate, reading slowly and has had trouble passing math and English for the last 2 years.
Hi @sistersin2010, Thanks for reaching out. A formal evaluation for special education services can be very helpful, and you have the right to request one from the school at any time. Our Evaluations section on Understood has great articles, infographics and tip sheets to help you along the way. We have selected some links that might be helpful. 7 Steps to Take Before Requesting a Formal Evaluation u.org/2VgW7O4 FAQs about Evaluations u.org/3fPikKb The School Evaluation Process: What to Expect u.org/3CkGiXk You can also talk to your son's pediatrician about getting a referral for an evaluation. We hope this helps, Best, The team at Understood
@@UnderstoodOrg thanks for the info, my son is homeschooled online with k-12, Ohio Virtual Academy. They told me they could have the school psychologist contact me. But I need to see his family doctor to get things set up? He is in 10th grade now and I figure it will take a while to get him in to be diagnosed. Hoping he can get some kind of iep to make things less stressful for us so he can hopefully graduate and not take years longer than normal.
i have really bad dyscalculia because i got diagnosed with it at the end fifth grade whenever my teachers and mom realized i didn't know how to multiply, divide, add big numbers or subtract big numbers. since i have such a big learning gap in my math skills, i still don't know how to do much of anything in math, and i'm graduating in four months.
Same I got diagnosed with dyslexia and dyscalculia when I was little and OMGG I’m about to turn 15 and I don’t even know nothing about math I don’t even know how to count money
Exactly, Addition and subtraction is easy but multiplication and Division really messes with my brain, But sometimes subtraction can get a little messy for me when It’s a veryy confusing sum
This brought tears to my eyes. I would study twice as hard as all my peers in math classes and receive a worse grade. When it came to verbal and science classes without heavy math, I would excel and often be at the top. Time to get an assessment for discalculia.
I’m 31, and when people say things about me using my fingers to count or repeating number sequences out loud until I have to punch them in, I just laugh and tell them “Well if felt like it I could redraw almost anything I see almost perfectly. I don’t need a GPS to get around most time cuz north, south, east, and west feel different. Can you do that?” We are all different. And it’s grand.
" I have learning disabilities. .And as a small child I was horse flogged for being so! ..But I'am now in my late 50's And those guys have past on to speak ..So I don't get flogged anymore! ...The dead can't flog you're body physically!! "All keep safe! d 🤕🇪🇺💜
The best grade I've ever had in math test is D-grade. But I'm at ninth grader and I get usually an F or E/4-5 Can dyscalculia be related with ADHD, since I have ADHD?
I got diagnosed with this when I was pretty young I was always so embarrassed having to leave the room during math time and go to the “special room” because I couldn’t keep up some children are so cruel to one another.
I’ve never heard of this but I was hoping this would explain why I’ve always been horrible at some math but I’ve always understood what numbers are and what they mean. But idk if that makes me not have it or..
Math confuses me so much. I can never understand it in class because the teacher teaches as if everyone understands basic things and does shortcuts on the board without telling what trick she's done. I have trouble memorizing basic rules and always need my mom's help and then she will slowly explain it to me and most of the stuff in math always feels illegal to me or made up. I am always like 'Wow u can do that??' but I still struggle with keeping the information and rules in my head. I thought I was lazy or just too dumb but I seriously think I might have dyscalculia. I even struggle with simply adding up money if it's huge numbers :/ I wish I was smarter but oh well
Well the professor got himself a good funding to continue his research on dyscalculia. Good for you prof. These PhD boys do really well in aquiring those millions in fundings. I hope your contribution pays off to benefit the dyscalculia sufferers in practicality
I'm so sorry 😔. That person does not deserve to be a school principal. Btw, it's Dyscalculia, not Math Dyslexia. You wouldn't call Dyslexia ' Letter Dyscalculia ' would you ?
Okay idk if you this counts but I’m 23 now and I’ve never ever been good at mental addiction, subtraction, but I can multiply fairly easily lol. All throughout school I’d use my fingers to add or subtract because I just couldn’t do it mentally( I’d hide my fingers under the table and use them lol) , it’s bad especially if I’m on the spot, I’d get so much anxiety and my mind would race to try and figure it out. There was even a time when a teacher was asking me a simple subtracting problem and it took me a while to answer and I could see students looking at me... I answered eventually but man hate it. Even counting change, I mean I can do it, I was a cashier for the first time ever, (which was a huge stepping out my comfort zone becuase counting and public scared me) but it was fairly easy(THANK GOD FOR THE COMPUTER TELLING ME HOW MUCH TO HIVE BACK LOL). There sometimes where I would forget how to count though or a customer would bring in so much change and I’d just and enter an amount because screw counting all that lol. Anyone like me? I didn’t know this was an actual condition
I noticed how people with dyscalculia have a great connection with art, I’m absolutely horrible at math not only because of not paying attention in online school for an year but because all the things I’ve learned in the past grade I’ve either forgotten or barely remember and I have great connection with art, It makes me feel happy and it’s so soothing, Brings ease to my mind.
What in the world...was not aware of this hmm People probably make fun of this as trying to get out maths classes...no one should be forced to a class they don't want to, government schools and their coercion...
I realize how bad I am at memorizing math, like if someone throws me a simple math problem at me unexpectedly I can’t process it and it make me look like a fool, I can do some simple math but everything else is hard to memorize..
As someone who has taken a lot of college level math classes this is a completely normal experience. Since, over time, everyone tends to forget things that they don’t consistently use. Every time you learn something in math it’s like getting a new tool, these tools help you solve problems (e.g. A hammer helps you hammer in nails, and the quadratic formula helps you solve quadratic equations). You store these various tools in your toolbox (your brain), but over time you may start to forget where you placed a tool, or maybe you don’t recall how to use the tool. When this happens you may need to take the time to relearn what you forgot. Most of the time, you’ll find that the more times you relearn something the easier (and faster) it is to learn it again (you may even have knew insights, like how a hammer can also be used to remove nails (at least a claw hammer can)). Summary: - Your experience is very normal. - Essentially, everyone forgets things. It’s very normal. - If you forget something, then you need relearn it. This is especially true if you actually need the information you forgot. If you don’t need it, then it’s up to you whether or not you want to relearn it (time is valuable). - Most of the time, when you relearn something it will be easier for you to recall it. Side notes: - The more math you learn the more you will start to understanding the things that you memorized (and over time that memorized information may start to feel non-memorized). - I don’t know you, but you are certainly not a fool, and you do have the ability to learn math. Just stick with it, practice, and over time many of the things that once felt hard to do will be a lot easier for you. - Good luck, and I hope that you pursue what makes you happy and healthy. :)
Crying because why isn’t this talked about more? Why were those of us with dyscalculia allowed to slip through the cracks? I’m 23 and I have a lifetime of memories of feeling utterly stupid for being unable to understand maths even though i excelled in other subjects like languages and history. We need to open up the conversation about dyscalculia so more kids don’t get left behind.
We're sorry to hear you've felt so alone in your struggles, Neo Sefolo, but glad you found us. You might be interested in this podcast episode from "In It" about dyscalculia: u.org/3d7Cqep. While it's primarily for parents of kids who learn and think differently, there is a lot of information that can help people of all ages. Best, The team at Understood
This is me. Literally, I mean it. I’ve failed EVERY math everything (that’s not a typo). Every class, test, exam, homework, class work…everything. I still can’t add without the use of my fingers either. I struggle at subtraction, only know 0x 1x 2x 10x 11x multiplication and STILL struggle, and never learned division at all. And everything else like Algebra, geometry, calculus, precalculus ETC is a mystery to me. I can’t with numbers. Mathematics isn’t even just not a strong suit…I can’t do it 🫤. I’ve struggled with this my whole life and still do after highschool.
I remember I was really nervous when I got called in front of the class to solve a math problem to the point that I cried a lot. On the contrary, literature fascinates me and it became my haven. The teachers in that field complimented me for my essays and I find it entertaining when I learn a new language on my own.
I’ve literally avoided numbers all my life. I get total mind fog as soon as I have to deal with them. My reading is good, my logic abilities good infact most stuff good. I find it all mind blowing… 🤯 The fear is real …
Earlier this year I got my official diagnosis at almost 18 years old. I had struggled my whole life with math and physics classes and now I feel relieved, I can use formulas and a calculator during tests. The only thing I'm really sad about is that I will not be able to study what I truly love, astrophysics and astronomy, in university because of my condition,but I guess I will embrace it just keep it as a passion.
[Note: this is part of my reply to someone else in the comments section of the video, but I thought it may be relevant to you.] As someone with dyscalculia and ADHD, In college I led math study groups, I used my colleges math tutoring services, I worked harder (i.e. spent more time) than many of my peers on assignments (with positive results), I became a student math tutor at my college, I got all A’s in my college math classes (Elementary Algebra -> Calc 4 (diff.eq & Lin. Algebra)) [however I spent countless hours studying (and compared to my peers it took me longer to work through problems)], I got extended time (x2) on exams (starting in Calc 1), I finished my A.S. in Broad Field Engineering (with only two others graduating with the same degree), and I’m currently working on getting my B.S. in Mathematics. THERE IS HOPE! You need to use the resources that are available to you (and hopefully they are adequate), and I understand that not everyone can have access to these resources, but to outright discourage people from even thinking of using support resources is a travesty. And Yes, I still struggle with basic mental arithmetic (it takes me a bit to calculate something like 27 + 16, even though I can do it). However, I can move variables around all over the place, I can do complicated derivatives, integrals, etc, with a lot more ease than something like 276 + 479. Since there are a lot of patterns, visuals, and visualizations of patterns that I’ve used to my advantage to be more successful in mathematics. My first week of college, and after being overwhelmed by elementary level math, I came home in tears and told my my mother, “I don’t think college is for me…” She told me to go up to my colleges math tutoring center, I did and that is when my life changed. Little did I know that I’d eventually work as a student math tutor there, and even find out that college is for me (especially when I have resources to support me). “Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow.” ~Plato (Sorry for any repetitive remarks, grammar issues, etc. I just wanted to share my experience so that whoever, with a sunken heart, clicks on the OP’s comment [note: the OP I’m currently replying to is not the “OP” I was referring to here] and tells themselves that “there is no chance for me”, will know that it is possible (through struggle, determination, AND time), and THERE IS HOPE.)
Dude, seriously don’t give up. 😤❤️ I have an official diagnosis for dyscalculia & ADHD, and was able to get an A.S. in Broad Field Engineering, and I am currently on track to getting an B.S. in Mathematics. Although, it’s an uphill battle there is still hope, and it would be a shame to let your dream die. (Make sure to use any dissability services that are available to you, as well as, any other resources that can aid you in your learning).
I'm actually crying right now. I just thought I was stupid. Still counting on my fingers in high school. I literally just started giving up if I couldnt understand a concept. Someone would explain it to me multiple times and it would make zero sense no matter what. Not even going to talk about a p p l y I n g mathematical rules.
I always struggled with math throughout my youth and teenage years and still even today as an adult, I finally now realize why I've been struggling so much over math for this many years, because of my Dyscalculia. I wish my parents could have shown me strategies to better understand my dyscalculia, or to bring me to a place where they can teach us how dyscalculia works and how to manage it in everyday life. When I was around 10 years old, my mom brought me to this place to do some physical and mental tests on to figure out why I was struggling with certain things apart from my dyscalculia, but I brushed it off, and never looked more into my struggle and I didn't reach out for help to manage my dyscalculia, also I think because in those years Neurotherapy wasn't created yet.
I am 72 years old, only today!!!! I understood my lifelong problem. At school we learned the alphabet, that was a piece of cake. Then we started with numbers....that was fun, 1 is white, 2 is red, 3 is orange, 4 is green. I loved all those colours. Until the teacher told me, that I am as stupid as can be. Numbers are not colours. Because being asked; what is 2+2, I answered, green. Suddenly I did not understand numbers anymore. All those pretty colours where wrong. Maths became a nightmare. Even more when my dad, being a maths boffin, could not understand why his daughter was so stupid. That stupid gene, did not come from his side of the family. My mum could not be blamed either, she was good with numbers. Maybe I was switched at birth. At highschool I eventually dropped out completely with maths, the teachers did not even mark my papers anymore, 0% for this stupid child. My others subjects were super, Biology and languages were my favorites. I speak 3 languages, read 4 and have no problems with grammar. I wanted to study medicine, but have stopped dreaming, years ago. When my daughter studied psychiatry/nursing, only then did she explained that she saw numbers as colours. I never told anybody ever....and she explained that she thought it normal. Her lecturer explained that it is called synesthesia. Wow, I had a name for my stupidity. After all those years, I bawled my eyes out. People who called me names; redeculed me, some even said, I should stop lying. I lived with that 'excuse' now, of having synesthesia. Until yesterday when my daughter saw me with a calculator; pen and piece of paper, to work out, how much my new glasses cost. Only then she said; mom, you have dyscalculia. Ok, now my stupidity has got another name. I wish that all those who belittled me, were still around, to prove to them, I am not stupid at all. Whoever reads this; who might have a family member, child, uncle etc.....try to get help, in this time and age, it is possible.
I'm in 10th grade and can't do basic division and I don't know the times tables. It can be quite draining to have to go through every school day pretending to understand the math lessons lol
So glad to hear this for years I felt so dumb and really under valued myself and got bullied for years because of this. I'm 32 and now I know AT LAST. MY QUISTION IS HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO LEARN MATH TO BE PROFICIENT ANOUGH IN IT?
I wish I knew this before I went to uni, it would have saved me a world of heartache. Did a course that has a lot of math, despite me struggling with it for so long, I just thought I needed to apply myself more like my trs had been saying all my life. Boy, was I wrong😪
I am 15 and I didn't know this existed. My sister who is 12 is bad at maths too but even she can understand and solve mathematic equations. Meanwhile me? I cant even solve her level,s equation! And I have been calling myself dumb my entire life.... I manage to get good marks in all other subjects except for physics and maths because both deal with one thing "equations and numbers" Its so bad that I had thoughts about killing myself just because I thought I was dumb. I have been tutored by so many teachers even if I spend hours I still cant understand basic stuff and I am in high school. I am so worried next year I am going to give my national exams which has a huge importance in my country. These are the exams which decide your career future in my country. If you fail here you fail forever. Failure isn't a choice to me anymore. I am being pressurized so much I really dont know what to do. My parents wont understand. I know it may sound silly to you that I have thought about killing myself over maths but to me it isn't because I am worried about my future. Every single person in my class is so smart when it comes to maths and then there is me. I really don't know what to do. Please someone help me how do I get rid of this thing?
Hi Battlelover666 Gaming - Thank you for sharing your honest feelings with us. It is not uncommon for people with learning and thinking differences to feel depressed or anxious at times. If you’re feeling like you’re in crisis or need immediate help, we encourage you to seek the services of a crisis center or other similar service in your area. We notice that you appear to be located outside of the United States. We would encourage you to consult this website for an international listing of suicide hotlines: www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines. Struggling with a learning and thinking difference can be very difficult at any age. It’s important to know you’re not alone, and that having support from others can be very helpful. We encourage you to start a conversation with a trusted adult, such as a teacher our counselor at school. Although Understood was created with parents in mind, here are some resources you might find helpful. We have a piece titled, "Dyscalculia: Ways to Help Your Child at Home" (u.org/38lH1ck) that might have some tips for you to try. We hope this helps. We’re here to support you and to make sure you have the resources you need during this very difficult time. Please let us know if you need additional assistance. All the best, The Understood Team
I don't think I have dyscalculia, but I do struggle with some elements in maths. I cant see the difference between a plus sign and a divide sign. Its really, really hard for me to work with numbers more than five digits because the numbers just jump around in my head. I can't tell do complicated equations because all the numbers jump around in my head, particularly if it's algebra because you have to think about the letters as well. Please let me know if it's not just me or if everyone struggles with this as well.
From what I've read, it sounds like you have dyslexia and it's affecting your math ability. Check out resources for dyslexia and see if you can get tested. Good luck. :)
I've never gotten assessed for learning disabilities dispute the fact I've always struggled in school. I think I have dyscalculia (excuse spelling I can't see the word and I didn't copy it first). I'm bad enough at math that it was the main driver in me having to take an extra year and half of highschool.
Hi CorenIsVeryConfused, We're sorry you've been struggling. Adults can and do get evaluated for learning and thinking differences. Adult evaluations for learning and thinking differences must be completed in person by a qualified professional, like a psychologist, doctor, or learning behavior specialist. This can be done at a community mental health agencies, counseling or study skills center at a local college or university, or a local hospital-based program. Here’s some information on who can evaluate adults for learning and thinking differences: u.org/2yeNiZq If the evaluation is not covered by your insurance or if you don't have insurance, there are two other things that could help you find an evaluation at a reduced cost: 1. Find out if any local universities with graduate programs in special education or psychology have clinics that conduct evaluations. These are often offered at substantially reduced cost. 2. Check with your local county or state adult education office. They may know of private practitioners who perform evaluations on a sliding scale or at reduced cost. You may want to consider connecting with these organizations in your area: LDA: ldaamerica.org/support/state-local-affiliates/ IDA: eida.org/ida-branches/ We hope this helps. Best The Understood Team
It's really sad that a lot of people don't understand it, and think we're just making excuses one guy even showed me an article of some random person who's a supposed genius mathematician with Dyscalculia (which I'm quite skeptical about, since nowadays anybody can fake a disorder or disability and post anything online just to go viral and be famous) or even if its true there me be exceptions, in all disorders and disabilities there are varying degrees of severity, it's not that I never tried I did the best I can, but perhaps I may have another talent or ability just like everyone else ( I'm quite good in literature and arts by the way) each person is unique, so being judgemental doesn't really help even if you may THINK that it does.
I can't tell the time without working it out, I've no judgement on distance or time or speed, I'm no homing pigeon, I could get lost in my own house. I can do basic add/subtract on paper, I can't visialise nums in my head & multiplication or anything further will have me bawling. I'm 45 & I refuse, as an adult now, to let maths upset me, the avoidance method works very well for me. Maths is alien & I'll never understand it. I know now I'm not dumb, as I've been called over the yrs, however accepting that I just can't do maths has helped me immensely.
Who among us also struggle with sense of direction? Hand in hand with this disorder. I also wonder how many of us were simultaneously early and proficient readers.
I became depress when Realize I really am terrible in math.... Even in basic and simple problems I cannot solve it.... Even in giving change when buying things I often think that I am truly dumb and I am stupid..... But still I always say to my self no one is perfect... And Just have to be me...
I'm 26, still just as bad at maths as I was in school, I tried to take redo my grades and get a better grade in mathematics but I couldn't do it. I think I'll always be awful at maths.
Dude I have just entered into the 9th grade nobody believes me but I know I have this version of dyslexia i hate admitting it but I am lazy with math not because I want to be but because I genuinely can’t do it im thinking way ahead but im not going to graduate because of this
I came across this term today at 30 years old and suddenly things make a lot more sense. Nice to know that every teacher I ever had failed to recognize that something was wrong and instead treated me like I was stupid.
Had to stop this at 1:33 It is obvious that not enough research has been done. I excel in English language and literature, yet I have always had a major problem with understanding maths (and directions). Plus, I have no relatives that have an issue with understanding maths - quite the opposite. You need to do a hell of a lot more research. PLUS- I am a 40 year old adult- not a child. So don't assume this is just a child thing. You really need to delete this pathetic video that has no fact basis and is a major insult to people with genuine number discalculus.
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They 'really have no clue'. If only they understood about people that do not understand numbers. They put so many people into a particular spectrum/ category , but they completely miss the other people that also do not understand numbers but in a million different ways!!!
Lamp Shade I agree. There’s a million ways I will never get math. My brain rejects it. I can’t keep a memory of how to solve or how to do it. I just can’t
I love reading and have never had an issue with it. However, no matter how many times I’ve tried to even remember the absolute basics, I can’t for the life of me remember the times tables or subtraction. However, wording used in maths really, REALLY confuses me.
I literally can't do math I can have notes next to me with multiple examples and I still can't do the math. I count on my fingers still. I haven't understood anything in any of my math classes since 7th grade and I'm even in lower level classes to accommodate for my difficulties with math. But even now I still get frusturated and even cry/breakdown when I have to do math. I want to get tested, this is unbearable and it's effecting my grade horribley.
Hi Exxx Pppl, Thanks for your comment. We understand how difficult this can be but know you're not alone. If speaking with your parents is not something you're ready for, consider speaking with an adult in your life you feel comfortable with. While Understood.org was written with parents in mind, you my find this piece helpful: I’m Concerned My Child Might Have learning and thinking differences. Now What? u.org/2a8583R We hope this helps. Best, The team at Understood
Good thing kids now will have an easier time because Ethel actually have begun recognizing this! It’s been a problem my whole life and I was told I was lazy because I couldn’t learn math beyond very basics in school. Ever.
I have this omfg I always said I was dyslexic but with math 😩😭 now I now it's called "Dyscalculia" I don't think I'm dyslexic cause I love reading books 😅
I felt so bad about the constant fail in maths while I passed my other subjects. In primary school I had to use strokes to calculate while others could multiply divide easily I had a hard time telling the time. Secondary school was just mean my teachers called me dumb 😹😹😹I couldn’t even understand the equation yet my classmates blurted out the answer
I am an adult now and my familly tried the math games and everything... yet nothing worked. I still strugle to read a normal clock or to understand things like 18:45... I never really understood fractions and I still passed my high school diploma but I needed alot of help. I wish that we could normalize talking about discalculia in adults cause we still have dyscalculia and it sucks to budget and navigate capitalism with it.
I always loathed math class because I just have to take things slow and recheck my work, and most of math class was always about who could do things the fastest. So people who naturally process information were always rewarded, and people who process numbers more slowly - through no fault of their own - were always punished. So zooming out, the emphasis in the math classes I was in wasn't really on teaching every kid how to do math, the emphasis really was on punishing the kids who were not lucky enough to understand the concepts quickly. To this day, I avoid even thinking about math class in high school for this reason.
Yes, I need to see things. I also need to see the big picture. Google maps and being a flight attendant helped me so much. As a child I couldn’t really understand maps and directions but seeing things from the air and space has helped so much.
I got F’s and D’s in math my whole life. As an adult I still read numbers backwards and can’t do any basic math in my head. Thankfully everyone has a phone now so I can always use a calculator.
i took one of those tests online where they send you the results, and it says that i’m likely to. and i don’t wanna self diagnose, bur i feel like i have it, perhaps not as severe as other people i’ve seen. during calculations, mg brain glitches a lot and then i feel this overwhelming feeling? i’ve only ever passed maths once out of my whole school years even tho i put in blood sweat and tears into math. i’d understand for one moment of my day, and the next it would be like i never learnt it. on the train i can’t count how many stops i need to take because i get the numbers mixed up, so to help me, i just recognise each different person that gets on the train at a different station to kind of break it down to me.
Hi MAWAZO 888, Thanks for reaching out and sharing your story with us. We understand it can be difficult but know you’re not alone and there are resources that can help you. It sounds like you are trying to take charge of your own learning and thinking differences. Please consider sharing your concerns you expressed to us with your parent, guardian, or school counselor. One good article to share with them is: I’m Concerned My Child Might Have learning and thinking differences. Now What? u.org/2a8583R You might also consider checking one of our partner programs, Friends of Quinn (www.friendsofquinn.com/ld-resources), an online community that offers resources and support for young adults with learning differences, as well as for the people who love them. Wishing you the best of luck! Best, The team at Understood
Im 17 and I started crying trying to read a clock. I always have to count on my fingers when it comes to times like 13;00 and 23;00. Even on my phone I make sure that it says 1;00pm instead of 13;00. I can't remember mathematical equations. Its been so hard for so many years and it still is. I remember bursting into tears during a math test because it was so overwhelming. I was the last one left in the class room, sitting there with my tears landing on my test paper. I felt so bad about myself. It wasn't until a couple months ago that I first heard of the word dyscalculia. I definitely think that I have it.
Interesting. I have Dyscalculia but I have very high emotional intelligence and I am good with interpersonal tasks. I was told I am very good at business negotiation, sales and managing workers. It is interesting to see how varied the human mind is.
I have yet been diagnosed, but I have always been having trouble with math and failed math my whole life! I as well had issues with reading and was pulled into small reading groups in school, but never got diagnosed.. I noticed in 8th grade.. when my teacher pointed out that I switched numbers like 74 to 47 or when it was 18 I would put 17.. It kind of set it that I probably was always doing this.. my whole life..
I’m 25 years old and I still don’t understand maths at the most basic of levels, I can’t even read an analog clock, failed all my maths and exams and tests. Even counting sometimes is hard!
Hi FANTASMA PARANORMAL, thanks for sharing your story. We're sorry you've struggled. You might be interested in this article "7 surprising ways dyscalculia affects me" u.org/3dtGIAo The author is another young adult with dyscalculia. Best, The team at Understood
People who have adhd have a higher chance of having dyslexia and Dyscalculia. I have mild dyslexia, but I’m in advanced math 😎👍🏻 So having it doesn’t mean ur dumb or stupid, it just means u need a little help! And doesn’t everyone need it now in 2021 tho lol!
I think I might have at least a mild version of this. Would explain why I understand physics concepts relatively easily, was able to learn 3 languages without much issue and self learn the guitar ( These are areas on most occasions my uni mates would struggle) but during my first year of Engineering I struggled so hard to learn calculus. I struggled HARD to learn basic functions, log concepts and sometimes even basic fractions in high school but ACED biology, physics, design and tech and even religion studies. Math is such an important part of society that I can't fathom how hard it must be for people with a severe case of this condition my heart goes out to you guys.
My youngest brother has dyscalculia. So does one of my coworkers. And historical figures that may have had it include Walter Harper, the first man atop Denali.
Interestingly, when attempting *vertical* fractions I was unable to make sense of even basic steps; however, when I instead began setting up problems as horizontally as possible, I was able to get much further on my own. This strategy extends to most other maths for me: trigonometry, calculus, algebra, as well as engineering and electrical equations.
I've also never had problems with general quantities or patterns, though time is still a foreign concept - probably exacerbated by ADHD. When I count pills/capsules/tablets by fives in pharmacy, I actually count in paired quantities of 2 and 3. I almost never have inaccuracies this way.
I used to think I had this during high school as tutors and teachers just couldn’t get me over the hump with maths and I really did try to figure it out but I just wasn’t capable. As I’ve gotten older though and worked in retail, I’ve come to realise that I’m basically just really shit at numbers lol. Props to people that do have this though, If maths didn’t make sense to me then I can’t imagine how much harder it was for those that have this form of dyslexia.
I am 34 years old and since primary school I have trouble with math. my problem is I don't understand why some numbers belong somewhere or have been copied or how the calculation is done. I really wish I could understand it but it just seems like my brain just won't store it.
Imagine growing up with discalculia (and not knowing it) and a human calculator for a father... I shouldn't have been allowed to graduate high school, I cannot take care of my own finances...
I have dyscalculia, but speak 7 languages fluently and can pick up any language i want at ease. I can paint and do other art and am great at writing also a very good speller in several languages. But math. Never. I cannot
I learned in my final year of university that I have this. The tears 💧, the self esteem hits, the way math always felt like torture. I wish there had been help for kids like me.
I'm 17 in highschool and I'm bad at measuring, can't read the time off a clock, so that's why I prefer digital clocks, and cents. Cents is something that I'm definitely not good at, some people made fun of me for it and it's not okay 😟 Anytime I'm working at the cash register at McDonald's, someone hands me a dollar and cents, and that's where I mess up. I gotta ask how much do I owe them, some people have helped me with that and I'm glad, but when I messed with one guy's cash, one of the workers handed him his food, and told her about it. It's NOT funny. I don't understand why people would just do that, it makes me mad, feel hurt, and blame myself. I've done with a couple times, and they didn't understand why I did it. I wasn't really taught that well with money when I was younger, and I don't blame myself.
It sucks when your parents refuse to acknowledge things like this in your youth. I’m in High School and I’m retaking 4th grade math and can’t recognize patterns, terms, angles, listing, etc. My mom refuses to believe I might have a learning disability because “everyone struggles with math”.
Oh my! I’m sorry! Sometimes people think you just don’t want to do, they just don’t understand that there is something called Dyscalculia. I know because I’m a teacher and I have learned about it.
@@elizabethantobam2195 I would like to get in contact with you and see how I can help my child who has this condition please.
Modern society is so unfair, and quite honestly just downright flawed and stupid. I know this one kid named Tommy who suffers from severe down syndrome, to the point where he can't even talk, and he rocks back and forth because of the autism. But he's a fifth grader, and he's able to do college University level math. He has the math comprehension of someone who's getting their bachelor's degree, and he's only in the fifth grade. But he doesn't understand other basic concepts. As if everybody's brains are structured and work the same. It is just dumb how the education system works. It simply doesn't work. And I too never got the hang of math, but I'm what society sees to call on the surface normal and functional. Funny thing is, I got bad math skills, but I score on above average when it comes to speech skills, and abstract thinking. You will never know I have Asperger's unless I told you, or to tell me to do math in my head.
I feel so anxious to tell my mum about thinking I have anxiety but I don’t want to tell her
@@michaelhernandez3220 usual ppl who struggle with lineal thinking excel with abstract thinking
I cried while watching this I though i was the only one who was this bad at math
Hi Hannah Køhl, We're sorry to hear you've felt so alone, but glad you found us. You might be interested in the podcast episode from "In It" about dyscalculia too. u.org/3d7Cqep While it's primarily for parents of kids who learn and think differently, there is a lot of information that can help people of all ages.
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The team at Understood
Yeah me too 😭😭😭😭😭
Same 😔
@@emazyapplause5122 same..
@Hannah Kohl
So did I.
And, I am 48 years old.
You're not alone sweetie 🙏💖😊🦋
I thought it was just me I’m 25 and I’ve been dealing with this my whole life
Its never just you
Both my son & myself have this & struggled throughout our entire school careers. There are no words to describe how good it felt when I came across an article discussing this. Describing exactly what I... we have been trying to overcome our entire lives, to put a name to it, learn that it is actually being recognized, studied, talked about & taken seriously. I'm 46 & only really learned/heard anyone talking about it a few years ago. I was so excited that I immediately called my son to tell him that there was a name for what we have & instead of having to try to explain why we struggle with certain things or the way our brains worked to other people now we had something to call it. We had proof that it wasn't because we were just lazy students who didn't apply themselves.
I also have this problem whenever numbers is involve my mind just shut down.... It is really hard
@@marcojuanta9948 me too dude its hard since my parents doesn’t speak English I have to translate for them when the landlord come he always talk about numbers and money its very hard for me
I'm 60 years of old and a miserable childhood at School my day was in the thick class and retarded this has blighted my life
Another quick observation.
Giving a person with dyscalculia more time on a test or assignment is absolutely useless. So is tutoring. Our brain is not wired to understand mathematical concepts no matter how much time you give us or how many times you explain something to us.
i completely agree. my teachers get frustrated with me because i have such bad dyscalculia that i can't multiply or divide, and since i'm a senior in high school, my math teacher expects me to square root but i don't even know what that is.
@@angxlic7678 Thankfully my dyscalculia isn’t THAT bad 😬
@@angxlic7678 mines the same as you
YES, thanks!! I always felt it's so useless but at the same time I felt unthankful for not really being able to use that "advantage"
But I don't just take longer to solve problems
Most times I just don't get it at all
Só what does work for you? Which strategy do you think is the best?
Also Art class was a safe haven. It was where I the genius. One day a group of kids were just watching me and another guy copy a famous painting with ease. One day a girl said” How can y’all do that and I cant it’s just art....” and they guy turned around and said “the same way you can do algebra and I just can’t”.....had to stop myself from bursting into tears right there.....year was 2002.
My heart! 🤍 Good on him.
This was me growing up 💔 bless u
Art was always my safe haven
I chose Arts to avoid math. But then I had geometry and I couldn't do it. I was good at everything else but geometry. I'm still good at everything else 🙂
I was in the same boat. I absolutely excelled at my art classes and I was known as "the art kid" but sometime around the 8th grade Math just stop making sense to me. It was like this impenetrable block I couldn't burst through no matter how hard I tried. It was a miracle i passed the regents in New York state 1998.
My art teacher saw how much I feared my math class. I would break down in tears, or shut down altogether in my high school algebra classes. I don’t know if I have it, I excelled in every other subject including science. I did well in elementary school math. But around seventh or eighth grade, things just stopped making sense. I can recall my teachers face, it was like I had insulted her directly. She was fed up with me. I’ll never forget how awful it felt to be made to feel stupid....but I wasn’t. I tried so hard to understand complex equations, fractions, and sometimes it wasn’t so bad when I was following sling. but once I was tasked to do these equations on my own, I got lost. I can’t tell you how many tutors I had or how many would grit their teeth as I sat there in shame. I remember my art teacher mentioned this disorder. I brought it up to my parents and they didn’t take it seriously. They thought I just didn’t try hard enough.
I was so excited for college, I wasn’t going to piss my life away. I had dreams to accomplish. I started with my local community college, tested out of the intro college English class, came close to it for history, and ended up with remedial algebra. I failed the first year. I paid out of pocket the second time around, and was so defeated I didn’t show up for my finals. I had tutors, I tried everything possible to get a passing grade but I knew I wouldn’t get it. That’s what broke me. I gave up school. I’m sitting on ten years of shame and regret and frustration and it dawned on me to look up that word, dyscalculia, mentioned by my high school art teacher so many years ago. To think I wasn’t just lazy or stupid, that there may have been a legitimate reason I struggled...to say I’m on the brink of tears is a simplification of the emotions I feel right now.
I hope this revelation gave you peace and an opportunity to make things better for you
Your writing is so good. You could easily build a successful blog. NMB but Just wondering what you do for a living
Wow, just wow. I am and art teacher and I have dyscalculia! I frequently observe student disabilities and I believe it is because artist observations are strong. Thank you for sharing this story. I am sorry you had to go through that.
Thank you for sharing your story. Based on what you wrote it sounds more like math anxiety - which is very real - instead of dyscalculia. I am in a Masters program now for Special Education and learning a lot about Specific Learning Disabilities and how they differ from serious learning difficulties.
Your sentiments are valid and maybe knowing now why you might struggle can help as you continue in life.
This is my situation as well. Ever since I began to feel depressed around 5th grade everything else started to crumble but around 8th grade was when I began to struggle I remember in 7th grade I got a A but after I cant understand the subject, I try and try but it doesn't stick. It's like trying to read a foreign language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet. And when you're out on your own to solve math problems on your own you feel lost and overwhelmed as if you're in a foreign country. I graduate this year, math doesn't seem hard but when trying to solve it, I just can't. I had dreams of going to college etc...but sadly in high school my mental health declined and most of my dreams also died,I almost attempted to commit suicide once but I didn't. Nobody knows that I struggle so much with math but I'm sure my math teachers all know. I want to tell someone and address the situation but I feel like everyone will laugh at me and call me stupid including my Mexican parents. I graduate in 2021 and just to think that I'll go into adulthood being all dumb makes me stress and feel even more useless. I'm good at pretty much everything else except math. The worse thing is that everyone thinks I'm smart but little do they know that when it comes to math I'm the dumbest they'll ever meet. Freshman year I remember my teacher was reading aloud the names of students who had bad grades and I was one of them I felt so embarrassed when the bell rang I was coming out of class and a girl in my class passed by me and she said shockingly "Maria you have a F? I thought you were smart" and that made me feel so much worse. I'm trying my best to pass and understand but I can't and it also affected my mental health and my mental health has also affected my education. I'm afraid I won't graduate 😭 It hurts I want to understand math but I can't. I want to cry but I can't either. I feel so overwhelmed. I don't know what to do anymore. I wish I was equally good at math as I am in history, English, science, social sciences, languages 😭
Edit: No I have not been diagnosed but I wouldn't be surprised if I was diagnosed with this.
I'm 17 and still I don't know how to multiply,divide and subtract...🙄🙄🙄
Hi Alex benadict,
We're sorry you're struggling. We understand how difficult this can be but know you're not alone. If speaking with your parents is not something you're ready for, consider speaking with an adult in your life you fell comfortable with.
While Understood.org was written with parents in mind, you my find this piece helpful: I’m Concerned My Child Might Have Learning and Attention Issues. Now What? u.org/2a8583R
We hope this helps.
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The team at Understood
same
I’m 13 and doing well, I screw math everyday, but I am gonna give everything to complies my dreams and wishes.. Biology is my best subject. I don’t know how to to lmao, screw that just like I said. Just do what you love.
Same
@@arsheenzahid1972 Hey Alex I'll give you the 9's time table. 9x1= 0 9
9x2= 1 8
9x3= 2 7
9x4= 3 6
9x5= 4 5 9x6= 5 4 9x7= 6 3 9x8= 7 2 9x9= 8 1 9x10= 9 0
Do you see the 0 to 9 on the left side and the 9 to 0 on the right side? I use to carry this with me to remember my 9's, LOL! I am 78 years old and still use today!
I hate going to school just because I don’t want to go to math every time I enter that class I get tensed.
Hi Mugi Senpai,
We're sorry you're struggling with math. It's hard enough as it is and adding anxiety doesn't help. You might find the article "How I got over my fear of AP statistics (and passed!)" u.org/30kE60v interesting. We hope you can get the support you need to thrive in school and life.
Please reach out if you need more help.
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The team at Understood
Same its normal for me to feel nervous so in math i find it helps to just not put your hand up and if i get picked on by the teacher i say can I get some help it helps
I'm decent at every other subject apart from maths lol I literally can't do math in my head at all and always forget it
This is not just children! I am an adult find adult it still effects me
I'm 39 and I still have it.
I don’t think I have dyscalculia but however I get anxiety when someone ask me a simple math question, I can’t calculate at all when other in presence, I have to be in private. Because of this, I had some embarrassing dumb moments, especially with tutors, I feel anxiety whenever they ask me a question, even if a simple 6-7, I either stutter or time consume.
Hi kyky,
We're sorry you're struggling. Anxiety, especially about math, is not uncommon. You might find this article about how a young woman handled her math anxiety useful. u.org/3h9pwjF
We hope this helps.
Best,
The team at Understood
Literally exactly the same as you oh my god..
On the same page :(
Same. If someone asks me a math question I just say don’t know or I jokingly say I “don’t do math” to avoid it.
Sameeee
It is tragic that in 2020 almost no one knows how to teach math. Kids who understand math need minimal instruction, so little teaching occurs. Kids who don't understand are blamed for not learning, when in fact little actual, useful instruction is given. They are left behind and blamed for it. Shame on the curriculum developers and teacher colleges for such terrible work.
I wonder what they do different in China. I teach English to Chinese kids and they are all soooooo good at math it's insane
that is so true. had the problem with my final exam in math class this year.
Not only was the situation already bad enough because of the corona virus but also didn’t our teacher give a single shit.
We couldn’t contact him nor did he gave us material to work with unless about a week before the exam.
He always used the „leaning by doing“ method and basically never explained anything twice.. he never understood that for most of the students this methof just didn’t work at all ..
even though a lot of students kept on writing Es and Fs only he wouldn’t change his teaching method.
The end result of the whole thing was that I got an E- in my final exam which really dragged my points down ..
@@deathwolfs69 They memorize. Memorize. MEMORIZE.
In the early grades, there really isn't anything you need to "understand." American curriculum has overdosed on kids "understanding" math. It's hindering kids instead of helping because as the OP said, kids who are good at math don't need as much help. If you don't get those early math facts memorized, it's honestly game over by 3rd or 4th grade.
I am almost 60 years old and have had dyscalculia since about 5th grade. They didn’t know what it was or have any patience for it back then. My school was so small that we didn’t have special education, but if we had, I’m sure I would have ended up there. I never passed any math class from 5th grade on through college and graduate school. I made straight A’s in all my classes that didn’t require math so I was able to get by. I had a 30 plus year career as an educator and never did I use any math beyond simple addition and subtraction. Calculators and computers didn’t exist when I was in school so everything was pencil and paper. Eventually, I learned to use a pocket calculator but still struggle to understand how percentages, multiplication, division, and fractions work. I flunked out of several algebra classes and never understood what was going on. Teachers and my dad got so frustrated with me. I heard; “It’s so simple! Why can’t you see it?” So many times growing up. I finally got diagnosed my senior year of college when passing a basic math for teachers class was all that stood between me and graduation. I had taken the same class 5 times and had never earned a passing grade on any assignment or exam. My professor finally pulled strings to get me tested and that was the first time I ever knew dyscalculia existed. I’d never even heard the term and I was about to earn a degree in education. My professor finally passed me out of pity. When my GRE results came back for acceptance to graduate school, my advisor called me into his office and gave me the news. I had a perfect score on the verbal section of the test and the lowest score my university had ever seen on the math portion. I accidentally got a couple of math problems right and made it into graduate school by one point. I went on to graduate Magna Cum Laude with a master’s degree.
So, I’m glad kids today have the support and resources of teachers who know about this problem and can offer solutions.
When I was a principal, I would hear math teachers talking about students and recognized the signs of dyscalculia. Most of my teachers knew all about dyslexia but had no idea a similar condition existed regarding numbers.
Anyway, a dyscalculia story from someone that suffered through this affliction when no one even knew what it was.
Bill Fowler well done for you, At least you got diagnosed, I’m only 30 and even when I went to school 15 years a go nobody knew nothing about dyscalculia
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 you would be surprised... most educators still remain ignorant of learning disorders.
thanks for sharing bill. it means a lot
thank you for sharing. Same with me, high school and college was a nightmare for me. Math was always extremely difficult. I would fail tests left and right or barely pass. This was even if I studied for hours or had tutors. I would score really well in other classes and usually above average in english/ literature. When I think back on those times, it was extremely stressful for me and I'm so happy to be pursuing music full time, doing things I love and that I really excel at. Dyscalculia needs to be spoken about more, I didn't even know this existed at that time.
Sir im also like this of year im 25 but i never passed my grades in any matu subject they pass me only because of pity. Now im second year college trying to continue to dream again but math subject are my blockage to pursue. my dream i choose course with no math but still there is a subject that will be tackle this kind of matters. Been living like hell with this disorder im always shy and doesnt talk about number. The trauma of teacher and laughter of classmate and says youre an idiot! The punishment in front of the class when you dont know the answer.
I have discalculia, I was not helped in anyway in school. My reading and writing was always very good. I used to hide in the toilet before maths class so people didn't know I was in the remedial set.
I don't understand, all these videos say you never out grow dyscalculia, which is very true, but then they spend the entire rest of the video talking only about children with dyscalculia. Where are the videos about how it impacts people in their adult lives. People have lots of patients and understanding for children with learning difficulties, but when those same children become adults, they are expected to function as if the difficulty has somehow disappeared.
Thanks for your comment purity4all. We will share this with our team.
@@UnderstoodOrg Thank you. Please make a video about how adults are affected and how others can help make things a little easier on their dyscalculic coworkers without making us feel stupid or incapable. This is something we never outgrow and it impacts every facet of our lives yet almost no one has heard of it and no one understands it but others who are dealing with it.
I was diagnosed with dyscalculia when I was little it’s hard. Now I am adult I can’t do math without a calculator or looking up a basic measurement.
I was partially homeschooled and was yelled at for being "sloppy" in math constantly. I hated math because the numbers always changed and tricked me.
“Changed & Tricked me” i felt this in my SOUL
I am 28 and still have a hard time counting change. I was super bad with math, but derivation was an exception. I was smarter than all the guys in school at derivation.
same I suck at counting change lol I practiced for years but just can't get it
I have obviously had dyscalculia my whole life, but it took till i was 16 or 17 to get diagnosed with it. People always assumed i just wasnt "good at math", or i didnt try hard enough to read clocks, or i was just clumsy and couldn't tell left from right or read directions or see distance very well. I wish people realized that i had it sooner because ive gone years without help and am now going into college or university with the math competency of a 4th grader 😂😂
I’m 24 not knowing anything about math 🧮 to me it doesn’t exist till I use a calculator 💯 I get real intense when somebody asks me timetables.
I’m 31, every thing you said is exactly what I’ve been going through my entire life. I have an appointment on Monday to get tested.
What is the approach to get a 16 year old diagnosed with learning disabilities? My son Started have issues at around 13 with not being able to concentrate, reading slowly and has had trouble passing math and English for the last 2 years.
Hi @sistersin2010, Thanks for reaching out. A formal evaluation for special education services can be very helpful, and you have the right to request one from the school at any time. Our Evaluations section on Understood has great articles, infographics and tip sheets to help you along the way. We have selected some links that might be helpful.
7 Steps to Take Before Requesting a Formal Evaluation
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FAQs about Evaluations
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The School Evaluation Process: What to Expect
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You can also talk to your son's pediatrician about getting a referral for an evaluation.
We hope this helps,
Best,
The team at Understood
@@UnderstoodOrg thanks for the info, my son is homeschooled online with k-12, Ohio Virtual Academy. They told me they could have the school psychologist contact me. But I need to see his family doctor to get things set up? He is in 10th grade now and I figure it will take a while to get him in to be diagnosed. Hoping he can get some kind of iep to make things less stressful for us so he can hopefully graduate and not take years longer than normal.
i have had dyscalculia since i was in grade school and now that im in college i still have trouble but i am getting tutor
Hi Joey Thompson, thanks for your comment. We're happy to hear you getting a tutor.
i have really bad dyscalculia because i got diagnosed with it at the end fifth grade whenever my teachers and mom realized i didn't know how to multiply, divide, add big numbers or subtract big numbers. since i have such a big learning gap in my math skills, i still don't know how to do much of anything in math, and i'm graduating in four months.
Same I hate this so much
Same I got diagnosed with dyslexia and dyscalculia when I was little and OMGG I’m about to turn 15 and I don’t even know nothing about math I don’t even know how to count money
Same
Exactly, Addition and subtraction is easy but multiplication and Division really messes with my brain, But sometimes subtraction can get a little messy for me when It’s a veryy confusing sum
This brought tears to my eyes. I would study twice as hard as all my peers in math classes and receive a worse grade. When it came to verbal and science classes without heavy math, I would excel and often be at the top. Time to get an assessment for discalculia.
I spent years undiagnosed. Finally got my maths passed at 25 due to a tutor who helped me
CONGRATS
I’m 31, and when people say things about me using my fingers to count or repeating number sequences out loud until I have to punch them in, I just laugh and tell them “Well if felt like it I could redraw almost anything I see almost perfectly. I don’t need a GPS to get around most time cuz north, south, east, and west feel different. Can you do that?”
We are all different. And it’s grand.
I thought something was wrong with me and I thought I was the only one that didn't understand math but I just found out that I have Dyscalculia
I'm in medical school . Ive maintained a 4.0 gpa until Pharmacology. It involves basic math I know, but its very difficult for me.
Wow that’s amazing , I wish I can go to medical school. I have it real bad.
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The best grade I've ever had in math test is D-grade. But I'm at ninth grader and I get usually an F or E/4-5
Can dyscalculia be related with ADHD, since I have ADHD?
This is a very late reply but yes ADHD can be related to any learning disability that including dyscalculia since I struggle with them as well
Yes having ADHD and dyscalculia is common
I think it’s like 20 % of people with ADHD also have dyscalculia
Me too
I got diagnosed with this when I was pretty young I was always so embarrassed having to leave the room during math time and go to the “special room” because I couldn’t keep up some children are so cruel to one another.
I’ve never heard of this but I was hoping this would explain why I’ve always been horrible at some math but I’ve always understood what numbers are and what they mean. But idk if that makes me not have it or..
Math confuses me so much. I can never understand it in class because the teacher teaches as if everyone understands basic things and does shortcuts on the board without telling what trick she's done. I have trouble memorizing basic rules and always need my mom's help and then she will slowly explain it to me and most of the stuff in math always feels illegal to me or made up. I am always like 'Wow u can do that??' but I still struggle with keeping the information and rules in my head. I thought I was lazy or just too dumb but I seriously think I might have dyscalculia. I even struggle with simply adding up money if it's huge numbers :/ I wish I was smarter but oh well
Trust me you are not alone
Forcing myself to be good at math was so depressing I can't divide numbers
I'm 21 and I struggle with calculations, especially division, I'm just so slow when it comes to numbers....
Well the professor got himself a good funding to continue his research on dyscalculia. Good for you prof. These PhD boys do really well in aquiring those millions in fundings. I hope your contribution pays off to benefit the dyscalculia sufferers in practicality
My principal told me there is no such thing as math dyslexia ... And I believed him
Who the hell made him principal
I'm so sorry 😔. That person does not deserve to be a school principal. Btw, it's Dyscalculia, not Math Dyslexia. You wouldn't call Dyslexia ' Letter Dyscalculia ' would you ?
Okay idk if you this counts but I’m 23 now and I’ve never ever been good at mental addiction, subtraction, but I can multiply fairly easily lol. All throughout school I’d use my fingers to add or subtract because I just couldn’t do it mentally( I’d hide my fingers under the table and use them lol) , it’s bad especially if I’m on the spot, I’d get so much anxiety and my mind would race to try and figure it out. There was even a time when a teacher was asking me a simple subtracting problem and it took me a while to answer and I could see students looking at me... I answered eventually but man hate it. Even counting change, I mean I can do it, I was a cashier for the first time ever, (which was a huge stepping out my comfort zone becuase counting and public scared me) but it was fairly easy(THANK GOD FOR THE COMPUTER TELLING ME HOW MUCH TO HIVE BACK LOL). There sometimes where I would forget how to count though or a customer would bring in so much change and I’d just and enter an amount because screw counting all that lol. Anyone like me? I didn’t know this was an actual condition
Im going through the same thing as you
@@jordanthompson1869 aye ! We in this together!
I noticed how people with dyscalculia have a great connection with art, I’m absolutely horrible at math not only because of not paying attention in online school for an year but because all the things I’ve learned in the past grade I’ve either forgotten or barely remember and I have great connection with art, It makes me feel happy and it’s so soothing, Brings ease to my mind.
Im here
What in the world...was not aware of this hmm People probably make fun of this as trying to get out maths classes...no one should be forced to a class they don't want to, government schools and their coercion...
I realize how bad I am at memorizing math, like if someone throws me a simple math problem at me unexpectedly I can’t process it and it make me look like a fool, I can do some simple math but everything else is hard to memorize..
As someone who has taken a lot of college level math classes this is a completely normal experience. Since, over time, everyone tends to forget things that they don’t consistently use. Every time you learn something in math it’s like getting a new tool, these tools help you solve problems (e.g. A hammer helps you hammer in nails, and the quadratic formula helps you solve quadratic equations). You store these various tools in your toolbox (your brain), but over time you may start to forget where you placed a tool, or maybe you don’t recall how to use the tool. When this happens you may need to take the time to relearn what you forgot. Most of the time, you’ll find that the more times you relearn something the easier (and faster) it is to learn it again (you may even have knew insights, like how a hammer can also be used to remove nails (at least a claw hammer can)).
Summary:
- Your experience is very normal.
- Essentially, everyone forgets things. It’s very normal.
- If you forget something, then you need relearn it. This is especially true if you actually need the information you forgot. If you don’t need it, then it’s up to you whether or not you want to relearn it (time is valuable).
- Most of the time, when you relearn something it will be easier for you to recall it.
Side notes:
- The more math you learn the more you will start to understanding the things that you memorized (and over time that memorized information may start to feel non-memorized).
- I don’t know you, but you are certainly not a fool, and you do have the ability to learn math. Just stick with it, practice, and over time many of the things that once felt hard to do will be a lot easier for you.
- Good luck, and I hope that you pursue what makes you happy and healthy. :)
Crying because why isn’t this talked about more? Why were those of us with dyscalculia allowed to slip through the cracks? I’m 23 and I have a lifetime of memories of feeling utterly stupid for being unable to understand maths even though i excelled in other subjects like languages and history. We need to open up the conversation about dyscalculia so more kids don’t get left behind.
We're sorry to hear you've felt so alone in your struggles, Neo Sefolo, but glad you found us.
You might be interested in this podcast episode from "In It" about dyscalculia: u.org/3d7Cqep. While it's primarily for parents of kids who learn and think differently, there is a lot of information that can help people of all ages.
Best,
The team at Understood
Same
This is me. Literally, I mean it. I’ve failed EVERY math everything (that’s not a typo). Every class, test, exam, homework, class work…everything. I still can’t add without the use of my fingers either. I struggle at subtraction, only know 0x 1x 2x 10x 11x multiplication and STILL struggle, and never learned division at all.
And everything else like Algebra, geometry, calculus, precalculus ETC is a mystery to me.
I can’t with numbers. Mathematics isn’t even just not a strong suit…I can’t do it 🫤. I’ve struggled with this my whole life and still do after highschool.
Thank you for sharing your story with us - you are not alone in this!💙
I remember I was really nervous when I got called in front of the class to solve a math problem to the point that I cried a lot. On the contrary, literature fascinates me and it became my haven. The teachers in that field complimented me for my essays and I find it entertaining when I learn a new language on my own.
I’ve literally avoided numbers all my life.
I get total mind fog as soon as I have to deal with them.
My reading is good, my logic abilities good infact most stuff good.
I find it all mind blowing… 🤯
The fear is real …
Earlier this year I got my official diagnosis at almost 18 years old. I had struggled my whole life with math and physics classes and now I feel relieved, I can use formulas and a calculator during tests. The only thing I'm really sad about is that I will not be able to study what I truly love, astrophysics and astronomy, in university because of my condition,but I guess I will embrace it just keep it as a passion.
[Note: this is part of my reply to someone else in the comments section of the video, but I thought it may be relevant to you.]
As someone with dyscalculia and ADHD, In college I led math study groups, I used my colleges math tutoring services, I worked harder (i.e. spent more time) than many of my peers on assignments (with positive results), I became a student math tutor at my college, I got all A’s in my college math classes (Elementary Algebra -> Calc 4 (diff.eq & Lin. Algebra)) [however I spent countless hours studying (and compared to my peers it took me longer to work through problems)], I got extended time (x2) on exams (starting in Calc 1), I finished my A.S. in Broad Field Engineering (with only two others graduating with the same degree), and I’m currently working on getting my B.S. in Mathematics.
THERE IS HOPE!
You need to use the resources that are available to you (and hopefully they are adequate), and I understand that not everyone can have access to these resources, but to outright discourage people from even thinking of using support resources is a travesty.
And Yes, I still struggle with basic mental arithmetic (it takes me a bit to calculate something like 27 + 16, even though I can do it). However, I can move variables around all over the place, I can do complicated derivatives, integrals, etc, with a lot more ease than something like 276 + 479. Since there are a lot of patterns, visuals, and visualizations of patterns that I’ve used to my advantage to be more successful in mathematics.
My first week of college, and after being overwhelmed by elementary level math, I came home in tears and told my my mother, “I don’t think college is for me…” She told me to go up to my colleges math tutoring center, I did and that is when my life changed. Little did I know that I’d eventually work as a student math tutor there, and even find out that college is for me (especially when I have resources to support me).
“Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow.” ~Plato
(Sorry for any repetitive remarks, grammar issues, etc. I just wanted to share my experience so that whoever, with a sunken heart, clicks on the OP’s comment [note: the OP I’m currently replying to is not the “OP” I was referring to here] and tells themselves that “there is no chance for me”, will know that it is possible (through struggle, determination, AND time), and THERE IS HOPE.)
Dude, seriously don’t give up. 😤❤️
I have an official diagnosis for dyscalculia & ADHD, and was able to get an A.S. in Broad Field Engineering, and I am currently on track to getting an B.S. in Mathematics. Although, it’s an uphill battle there is still hope, and it would be a shame to let your dream die. (Make sure to use any dissability services that are available to you, as well as, any other resources that can aid you in your learning).
How did you overcome the difficulties? @@verypanda1801
Thank you for posting this succinct overview of this condition.
I'm actually crying right now. I just thought I was stupid. Still counting on my fingers in high school. I literally just started giving up if I couldnt understand a concept. Someone would explain it to me multiple times and it would make zero sense no matter what. Not even going to talk about a p p l y I n g mathematical rules.
I always struggled with math throughout my youth and teenage years and still even today as an adult, I finally now realize why I've been struggling so much over math for this many years, because of my Dyscalculia. I wish my parents could have shown me strategies to better understand my dyscalculia, or to bring me to a place where they can teach us how dyscalculia works and how to manage it in everyday life. When I was around 10 years old, my mom brought me to this place to do some physical and mental tests on to figure out why I was struggling with certain things apart from my dyscalculia, but I brushed it off, and never looked more into my struggle and I didn't reach out for help to manage my dyscalculia, also I think because in those years Neurotherapy wasn't created yet.
I am 72 years old, only today!!!! I understood my lifelong problem. At school we learned the alphabet, that was a piece of cake. Then we started with numbers....that was fun, 1 is white, 2 is red, 3 is orange, 4 is green. I loved all those colours. Until the teacher told me, that I am as stupid as can be. Numbers are not colours. Because being asked; what is 2+2, I answered, green. Suddenly I did not understand numbers anymore. All those pretty colours where wrong. Maths became a nightmare. Even more when my dad, being a maths boffin, could not understand why his daughter was so stupid. That stupid gene, did not come from his side of the family. My mum could not be blamed either, she was good with numbers. Maybe I was switched at birth. At highschool I eventually dropped out completely with maths, the teachers did not even mark my papers anymore, 0% for this stupid child. My others subjects were super, Biology and languages were my favorites. I speak 3 languages, read 4 and have no problems with grammar. I wanted to study medicine, but have stopped dreaming, years ago. When my daughter studied psychiatry/nursing, only then did she explained that she saw numbers as colours. I never told anybody ever....and she explained that she thought it normal. Her lecturer explained that it is called synesthesia. Wow, I had a name for my stupidity. After all those years, I bawled my eyes out. People who called me names; redeculed me, some even said, I should stop lying. I lived with that 'excuse' now, of having synesthesia. Until yesterday when my daughter saw me with a calculator; pen and piece of paper, to work out, how much my new glasses cost. Only then she said; mom, you have dyscalculia. Ok, now my stupidity has got another name. I wish that all those who belittled me, were still around, to prove to them, I am not stupid at all. Whoever reads this; who might have a family member, child, uncle etc.....try to get help, in this time and age, it is possible.
I'm in 10th grade and can't do basic division and I don't know the times tables. It can be quite draining to have to go through every school day pretending to understand the math lessons lol
So glad to hear this for years I felt so dumb and really under valued myself and got bullied for years because of this. I'm 32 and now I know AT LAST.
MY QUISTION IS HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO LEARN MATH TO BE PROFICIENT ANOUGH IN IT?
I wish I knew this before I went to uni, it would have saved me a world of heartache.
Did a course that has a lot of math, despite me struggling with it for so long, I just thought I needed to apply myself more like my trs had been saying all my life. Boy, was I wrong😪
I am 15 and I didn't know this existed. My sister who is 12 is bad at maths too but even she can understand and solve mathematic equations. Meanwhile me? I cant even solve her level,s equation!
And I have been calling myself dumb my entire life....
I manage to get good marks in all other subjects except for physics and maths because both deal with one thing "equations and numbers"
Its so bad that I had thoughts about killing myself just because I thought I was dumb. I have been tutored by so many teachers even if I spend hours I still cant understand basic stuff and I am in high school.
I am so worried next year I am going to give my national exams which has a huge importance in my country. These are the exams which decide your career future in my country. If you fail here you fail forever. Failure isn't a choice to me anymore. I am being pressurized so much I really dont know what to do. My parents wont understand. I know it may sound silly to you that I have thought about killing myself over maths but to me it isn't because I am worried about my future. Every single person in my class is so smart when it comes to maths and then there is me. I really don't know what to do. Please someone help me how do I get rid of this thing?
Hi Battlelover666 Gaming - Thank you for sharing your honest feelings with us. It is not uncommon for people with learning and thinking differences to feel depressed or anxious at times. If you’re feeling like you’re in crisis or need immediate help, we encourage you to seek the services of a crisis center or other similar service in your area. We notice that you appear to be located outside of the United States. We would encourage you to consult this website for an international listing of suicide hotlines: www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines.
Struggling with a learning and thinking difference can be very difficult at any age. It’s important to know you’re not alone, and that having support from others can be very helpful. We encourage you to start a conversation with a trusted adult, such as a teacher our counselor at school.
Although Understood was created with parents in mind, here are some resources you might find helpful. We have a piece titled, "Dyscalculia: Ways to Help Your Child at Home" (u.org/38lH1ck) that might have some tips for you to try.
We hope this helps. We’re here to support you and to make sure you have the resources you need during this very difficult time.
Please let us know if you need additional assistance.
All the best,
The Understood Team
Had so much trouble with math readinh directions got in trouble at school all the tome
Even though i have this i will keep going and study
I don't think I have dyscalculia, but I do struggle with some elements in maths. I cant see the difference between a plus sign and a divide sign. Its really, really hard for me to work with numbers more than five digits because the numbers just jump around in my head. I can't tell do complicated equations because all the numbers jump around in my head, particularly if it's algebra because you have to think about the letters as well. Please let me know if it's not just me or if everyone struggles with this as well.
From what I've read, it sounds like you have dyslexia and it's affecting your math ability. Check out resources for dyslexia and see if you can get tested. Good luck. :)
I had this when I was younger. I think learning abacus helps a lot, especially for kids to understand number sense.
I've never gotten assessed for learning disabilities dispute the fact I've always struggled in school.
I think I have dyscalculia (excuse spelling I can't see the word and I didn't copy it first). I'm bad enough at math that it was the main driver in me having to take an extra year and half of highschool.
Hi CorenIsVeryConfused,
We're sorry you've been struggling. Adults can and do get evaluated for learning and thinking differences.
Adult evaluations for learning and thinking differences must be completed in person by a qualified professional, like a psychologist, doctor, or learning behavior specialist. This can be done at a community mental health agencies, counseling or study skills center at a local college or university, or a local hospital-based program.
Here’s some information on who can evaluate adults for learning and thinking differences: u.org/2yeNiZq
If the evaluation is not covered by your insurance or if you don't have insurance, there are two other things that could help you find an evaluation at a reduced cost:
1. Find out if any local universities with graduate programs in special education or psychology have clinics that conduct evaluations. These are often offered at substantially reduced cost.
2. Check with your local county or state adult education office. They may know of private practitioners who perform evaluations on a sliding scale or at reduced cost.
You may want to consider connecting with these organizations in your area:
LDA: ldaamerica.org/support/state-local-affiliates/
IDA: eida.org/ida-branches/
We hope this helps.
Best
The Understood Team
It's really sad that a lot of people don't understand it, and think we're just making excuses one guy even showed me an article of some random person who's a supposed genius mathematician with Dyscalculia (which I'm quite skeptical about, since nowadays anybody can fake a disorder or disability and post anything online just to go viral and be famous) or even if its true there me be exceptions, in all disorders and disabilities there are varying degrees of severity, it's not that I never tried I did the best I can, but perhaps I may have another talent or ability just like everyone else ( I'm quite good in literature and arts by the way) each person is unique, so being judgemental doesn't really help even if you may THINK that it does.
I can't tell the time without working it out, I've no judgement on distance or time or speed, I'm no homing pigeon, I could get lost in my own house. I can do basic add/subtract on paper, I can't visialise nums in my head & multiplication or anything further will have me bawling. I'm 45 & I refuse, as an adult now, to let maths upset me, the avoidance method works very well for me. Maths is alien & I'll never understand it. I know now I'm not dumb, as I've been called over the yrs, however accepting that I just can't do maths has helped me immensely.
Who among us also struggle with sense of direction? Hand in hand with this disorder. I also wonder how many of us were simultaneously early and proficient readers.
I became depress when Realize I really am terrible in math.... Even in basic and simple problems I cannot solve it.... Even in giving change when buying things I often think that I am truly dumb and I am stupid..... But still I always say to my self no one is perfect... And Just have to be me...
I'm 26, still just as bad at maths as I was in school, I tried to take redo my grades and get a better grade in mathematics but I couldn't do it. I think I'll always be awful at maths.
Dude I have just entered into the 9th grade nobody believes me but I know I have this version of dyslexia i hate admitting it but I am lazy with math not because I want to be but because I genuinely can’t do it im thinking way ahead but im not going to graduate because of this
i wonder how many of us have math-related trauma which we don't really talk about because "math is just hard"
I came across this term today at 30 years old and suddenly things make a lot more sense. Nice to know that every teacher I ever had failed to recognize that something was wrong and instead treated me like I was stupid.
Had to stop this at 1:33 It is obvious that not enough research has been done. I excel in English language and literature, yet I have always had a major problem with understanding maths (and directions). Plus, I have no relatives that have an issue with understanding maths - quite the opposite. You need to do a hell of a lot more research. PLUS- I am a 40 year old adult- not a child. So don't assume this is just a child thing. You really need to delete this pathetic video that has no fact basis and is a major insult to people with genuine number discalculus.
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I will be happy to confer
You are 100% correct, this video is BS
They 'really have no clue'. If only they understood about people that do not understand numbers. They put so many people into a particular spectrum/ category , but they completely miss the other people that also do not understand numbers but in a million different ways!!!
Lamp Shade I agree. There’s a million ways I will never get math. My brain rejects it. I can’t keep a memory of how to solve or how to do it. I just can’t
I love reading and have never had an issue with it. However, no matter how many times I’ve tried to even remember the absolute basics, I can’t for the life of me remember the times tables or subtraction. However, wording used in maths really, REALLY confuses me.
I literally can't do math I can have notes next to me with multiple examples and I still can't do the math. I count on my fingers still. I haven't understood anything in any of my math classes since 7th grade and I'm even in lower level classes to accommodate for my difficulties with math. But even now I still get frusturated and even cry/breakdown when I have to do math. I want to get tested, this is unbearable and it's effecting my grade horribley.
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Good thing kids now will have an easier time because Ethel actually have begun recognizing this! It’s been a problem my whole life and I was told I was lazy because I couldn’t learn math beyond very basics in school. Ever.
I defo have some form of it. As in school I really struggled with math.
I have this omfg I always said I was dyslexic but with math 😩😭 now I now it's called "Dyscalculia" I don't think I'm dyslexic cause I love reading books 😅
I felt so bad about the constant fail in maths while I passed my other subjects. In primary school I had to use strokes to calculate while others could multiply divide easily I had a hard time telling the time. Secondary school was just mean my teachers called me dumb 😹😹😹I couldn’t even understand the equation yet my classmates blurted out the answer
I am an adult now and my familly tried the math games and everything... yet nothing worked. I still strugle to read a normal clock or to understand things like 18:45... I never really understood fractions and I still passed my high school diploma but I needed alot of help. I wish that we could normalize talking about discalculia in adults cause we still have dyscalculia and it sucks to budget and navigate capitalism with it.
I always loathed math class because I just have to take things slow and recheck my work, and most of math class was always about who could do things the fastest. So people who naturally process information were always rewarded, and people who process numbers more slowly - through no fault of their own - were always punished. So zooming out, the emphasis in the math classes I was in wasn't really on teaching every kid how to do math, the emphasis really was on punishing the kids who were not lucky enough to understand the concepts quickly. To this day, I avoid even thinking about math class in high school for this reason.
I’m 31 and can’t do my times tables. I panic when I see numbers. I didn’t learn how to tell the time until I was 14.
We're so sorry to hear you've had such a difficult time! Thank you for sharing your experience with us.💙
I'm 22 ADHD and dyscalculia, it lowers my self confidence
Math made school painful , History is where I shined ✨✨😌
Yes, I need to see things. I also need to see the big picture. Google maps and being a flight attendant helped me so much. As a child I couldn’t really understand maps and directions but seeing things from the air and space has helped so much.
I got F’s and D’s in math my whole life. As an adult I still read numbers backwards and can’t do any basic math in my head. Thankfully everyone has a phone now so I can always use a calculator.
I remember sweating bullets about being expected to add in my head. I need fingers and calculator unless its small numbers.
i took one of those tests online where they send you the results, and it says that i’m likely to. and i don’t wanna self diagnose, bur i feel like i have it, perhaps not as severe as other people i’ve seen. during calculations, mg brain glitches a lot and then i feel this overwhelming feeling? i’ve only ever passed maths once out of my whole school years even tho i put in blood sweat and tears into math. i’d understand for one moment of my day, and the next it would be like i never learnt it. on the train i can’t count how many stops i need to take because i get the numbers mixed up, so to help me, i just recognise each different person that gets on the train at a different station to kind of break it down to me.
I’m 14 and I always asked myself y I just kno till 5 times tables
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Im 17 and I started crying trying to read a clock. I always have to count on my fingers when it comes to times like 13;00 and 23;00. Even on my phone I make sure that it says 1;00pm instead of 13;00. I can't remember mathematical equations. Its been so hard for so many years and it still is. I remember bursting into tears during a math test because it was so overwhelming. I was the last one left in the class room, sitting there with my tears landing on my test paper. I felt so bad about myself. It wasn't until a couple months ago that I first heard of the word dyscalculia. I definitely think that I have it.
Interesting. I have Dyscalculia but I have very high emotional intelligence and I am good with interpersonal tasks. I was told I am very good at business negotiation, sales and managing workers. It is interesting to see how varied the human mind is.
I’m 35 and barely learning I have this no wonder I could never understood math 😭😭😭😭 it cost me my diploma
Same :( I still dont know division or multiplication by this very day.
btw ur channel is really cute!
Why am I like this ?? 😭😭😭😭💔
I have yet been diagnosed, but I have always been having trouble with math and failed math my whole life! I as well had issues with reading and was pulled into small reading groups in school, but never got diagnosed.. I noticed in 8th grade.. when my teacher pointed out that I switched numbers like 74 to 47 or when it was 18 I would put 17.. It kind of set it that I probably was always doing this.. my whole life..
I’m 25 years old and I still don’t understand maths at the most basic of levels, I can’t even read an analog clock, failed all my maths and exams and tests. Even counting sometimes is hard!
Hi FANTASMA PARANORMAL, thanks for sharing your story. We're sorry you've struggled. You might be interested in this article "7 surprising ways dyscalculia affects me" u.org/3dtGIAo The author is another young adult with dyscalculia.
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I have a question! Is It Bad If I Have It Because My Parents Think I Have It Because I Have All The Symptoms!
Me trying to learn division again at 19...
Its hard to deal with, its embarrasing, once you know there is a reason for it you can push through,
We know the feeling - but you've got this!💙🎉
People who have adhd have a higher chance of having dyslexia and Dyscalculia. I have mild dyslexia, but I’m in advanced math 😎👍🏻 So having it doesn’t mean ur dumb or stupid, it just means u need a little help! And doesn’t everyone need it now in 2021 tho lol!
I think I might have at least a mild version of this. Would explain why I understand physics concepts relatively easily, was able to learn 3 languages without much issue and self learn the guitar ( These are areas on most occasions my uni mates would struggle) but during my first year of Engineering I struggled so hard to learn calculus.
I struggled HARD to learn basic functions, log concepts and sometimes even basic fractions in high school but ACED biology, physics, design and tech and even religion studies. Math is such an important part of society that I can't fathom how hard it must be for people with a severe case of this condition my heart goes out to you guys.
My youngest brother has dyscalculia. So does one of my coworkers. And historical figures that may have had it include Walter Harper, the first man atop Denali.
Interestingly, when attempting *vertical* fractions I was unable to make sense of even basic steps; however, when I instead began setting up problems as horizontally as possible, I was able to get much further on my own. This strategy extends to most other maths for me: trigonometry, calculus, algebra, as well as engineering and electrical equations.
I've also never had problems with general quantities or patterns, though time is still a foreign concept - probably exacerbated by ADHD.
When I count pills/capsules/tablets by fives in pharmacy, I actually count in paired quantities of 2 and 3. I almost never have inaccuracies this way.
I used to think I had this during high school as tutors and teachers just couldn’t get me over the hump with maths and I really did try to figure it out but I just wasn’t capable.
As I’ve gotten older though and worked in retail, I’ve come to realise that I’m basically just really shit at numbers lol. Props to people that do have this though, If maths didn’t make sense to me then I can’t imagine how much harder it was for those that have this form of dyslexia.
I’m almost in fifth grade and I don’t even know how to do division or fractions yet 😭🙁😭😭🙁🤗😎😭😹🤗😡
I am 34 years old and since primary school I have trouble with math. my problem is I don't understand why some numbers belong somewhere or have been copied or how the calculation is done. I really wish I could understand it but it just seems like my brain just won't store it.
I probably have dyscalculia. Or something similar. It was a wonder I even passed my math courses lol
Imagine growing up with discalculia (and not knowing it) and a human calculator for a father... I shouldn't have been allowed to graduate high school, I cannot take care of my own finances...
I have dyscalculia, but speak 7 languages fluently and can pick up any language i want at ease. I can paint and do other art and am great at writing also a very good speller in several languages.
But math. Never. I cannot
I learned in my final year of university that I have this. The tears 💧, the self esteem hits, the way math always felt like torture. I wish there had been help for kids like me.
I'm 17 in highschool and I'm bad at measuring, can't read the time off a clock, so that's why I prefer digital clocks, and cents. Cents is something that I'm definitely not good at, some people made fun of me for it and it's not okay 😟
Anytime I'm working at the cash register at McDonald's, someone hands me a dollar and cents, and that's where I mess up. I gotta ask how much do I owe them, some people have helped me with that and I'm glad, but when I messed with one guy's cash, one of the workers handed him his food, and told her about it. It's NOT funny. I don't understand why people would just do that, it makes me mad, feel hurt, and blame myself. I've done with a couple times, and they didn't understand why I did it. I wasn't really taught that well with money when I was younger, and I don't blame myself.