You must have spent hours on this, some really obscure clips in there from British Judo events that wouldn't have been live streamed. Out of interested where did the clip at 4:10 come from. I think I recognise someone in it.
@@GrapplerKingdom thanks. Turns out I've fought in a few of the Dojos in your clips and know quite a few people in them too 😂 definitely some of the refs.
The first one is masterfully done. Problem is that inexperimented fighters will use it recklessly and honestly winning a medal isn't worth breaking your neck bone or your oponement shoulder.
There are Bjj videos that graphically explain why this technique is Banned. You may never walk again or even worse. But this video is quite interesting because it demonstrates how the technique can be done with much less risk. Such is the case of the Brazilian Judoka from minute 0:34. I think it should be the right way to do it and teach it in BJJ. Most people I met who do this technique are just because it looks cool.
If you want to punish and still risk losing to it, you can power bomb them if they jump high enough by slamming them on their head on the way down. They may still finish the arm bar though. Besides that, if they end up on their shoulders while you are still on your feet, you can stack them to make them uncomfortable and more slowly work basic armbar defense from there. That won’t be much of a punisher if they are flexible, but it is a safer defense.
The armlock itself is no more dangerous than a regular juji, and the fall/landing is no more dangerous than most throws. Ijf is a political body that is eroding judo.
There are videos of people getting neck/spinal cord injuries, because they wanted to imitate professional atletes. IJF ruled to protect from these casualties
1) You can kick someone in the face or back of the head by accident 2) You can land on your neck, or they can land on their neck if they're not expecting this 3) The combination of throw and joint lock makes it very difficult to stop forcing the joint before it snaps, you can break someone's elbow before they've even had time to tap, this is why Judo dropped most of the joint lock throws from Jujutsu, you can't practice them safely in randori - most of those throws are brutal and designed for a self defense context where not hurting the opponent is not really a concern, if you break their arm that's actually a plus in the context those techniques were originally though up.
I think more people know this move now due to BJJ and especially MMA, and aren't aware that it has a much older history in Judo.
Most people aren't aware that BJJ is just a branch of Judo where a group of Brazilians decided they didn't like practicing throws.
it is even much older history in sambo which bringed it in judo in 50 s 60 s
@@BigUrielyou know (japanese) jiu jitsu is much older than judo, right?
Sambo is based on judo, it's a Soviet martial art. Not old enough to influence old martial arts
@@luish2780i guess that is why he specified bjj and not just jj
Tobi juji gatame should never have been barred.
Such elegance, particularly the guy at 34s who does a sort of capoeira/breakdance handplant as part of the takedown 👍
My elbows suddenly hurt
LOL !!!!!!!!🤣
You must have spent hours on this, some really obscure clips in there from British Judo events that wouldn't have been live streamed. Out of interested where did the clip at 4:10 come from. I think I recognise someone in it.
Thanks for watching! Here is an original video that the clip was taken from: ua-cam.com/video/Z8crJc87JsY/v-deo.html
@@GrapplerKingdom thanks. Turns out I've fought in a few of the Dojos in your clips and know quite a few people in them too 😂 definitely some of the refs.
Excelente video, gracias👌👍👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
Thank you!
Its a killer technique ! I always wanted to learn it, maybe one day i find a good partner who can help me with it.
Go to a bjj school
looks painful. that's why i only do yachtsman stuff with ascot scarf and wine
Chuck norris favorite techniques fly arm bar
The first one is masterfully done. Problem is that inexperimented fighters will use it recklessly and honestly winning a medal isn't worth breaking your neck bone or your oponement shoulder.
There are Bjj videos that graphically explain why this technique is Banned. You may never walk again or even worse. But this video is quite interesting because it demonstrates how the technique can be done with much less risk. Such is the case of the Brazilian Judoka from minute 0:34. I think it should be the right way to do it and teach it in BJJ. Most people I met who do this technique are just because it looks cool.
Flying armbar is not banned in bjj where it says its ban ? I always do this
@ it is banned in judo not bjj
I watched the video 100times and now I know it perfectly 😂😂
mechanical memory)
4/30 not flying armbar it is Yatskevich roll or Maslov turn called in sambo
Tomoe nage to juji gatame is forbidden or not ?
Its legal if the tomoe nage is a real attempt
Thank you for the answer
Yup, one of my go-to combos
why it banned?
People do it improperly and injury their spines severely.
Belle vidéo, avec une bonne musique qui va bien avec, bravo
@elchoupacabra1 Thank you for watching!
Where did you get all those videos any sources whatsoever?
Pretty much all of the clips are from UA-cam and Facebook.
Were there any ways to punish/counter it?
Yeah there are for sure. Great move up against someone that isn’t versed. Also a reason why you never see it used in BJJ top competition
If you want to punish and still risk losing to it, you can power bomb them if they jump high enough by slamming them on their head on the way down. They may still finish the arm bar though. Besides that, if they end up on their shoulders while you are still on your feet, you can stack them to make them uncomfortable and more slowly work basic armbar defense from there. That won’t be much of a punisher if they are flexible, but it is a safer defense.
The armlock itself is no more dangerous than a regular juji, and the fall/landing is no more dangerous than most throws. Ijf is a political body that is eroding judo.
U can literally break your neck mate
There are videos of people getting neck/spinal cord injuries, because they wanted to imitate professional atletes. IJF ruled to protect from these casualties
1) You can kick someone in the face or back of the head by accident
2) You can land on your neck, or they can land on their neck if they're not expecting this
3) The combination of throw and joint lock makes it very difficult to stop forcing the joint before it snaps, you can break someone's elbow before they've even had time to tap, this is why Judo dropped most of the joint lock throws from Jujutsu, you can't practice them safely in randori - most of those throws are brutal and designed for a self defense context where not hurting the opponent is not really a concern, if you break their arm that's actually a plus in the context those techniques were originally though up.
It's also hazardous for the uke's knees, an extra person is a lot of weight and it's not hard to end up in some kind of twisting motion
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