Hey there :) Have You already contemplated the following information in the Holy Spirit? For me this was very helpful. -> for a biblical study to understand up-dated state of the art bible views of the progressive Church: a) search for "Are Biblical Laws About Homosexuality Eternal Friedman and Dolansky" on Google. AND for original text-studies on biblical teaching in the hebrew and greek original text: search for "would Jesus discriminate born gay" on Google. For a deeper Look about how the Bible reflects on Eunuches and "Born Eunuches" search for "where Eunuches homosexuals" on Google. b) For a inclusivistic/inclusive proof from the Holy Scripture that it does include modern science as part of the broader truth of God You may study and contemplate the following scripture: - direct proof for science as part of Gods truth (important as modern science pictures a more differentiated picture of lgbtqia+ causes and realities): 1. different religions/cultures/disciplines are able to know GOD (Romans 2:14-15 , Acts 17:27-29) 2. GOD can be recognized by studying and researching His creation and its realities (Romans 1, 19-20) 3. CHRIST/GOD can be known and be followed by people in in/with other disciplins/religions than just Christians&Jews (based again on Romans 2:14-15 + Genesis 20, 9-11 + 1 Corinthians 5,1) c) more biblical verses about a loving and inclusive/inlcusivistic God are in addition to the ones above: GOD Bless all His/Her Offspring (Acts 17:28-29). GOD is Love. (1st John 4:16) Love does Not take evil into account nor does it think any evil. (1st Corinthians 13:5) CHRIST is the ground-structure of the Universe (Colossians 1:16) GODS life lives in all His creatures (Gen 2:7, Gen 7:21-22) GOD is Like a good mother/father (Isaiah 66,13) I show You these verses as a firm Catholic, a follower of Jesus, a reborn in Christ, a child of God AND a universal interdisciplinary interreligious scientific-orientated Christian. May the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit guide us always towards a strong and true community of saints 🙏🏼 Blessings and best wishes with respect. 💚🌹
@@superstarreviews9937 Bro...don't question catholicism but question the pope. I'm happy to hear you have decided to convert. Catholicism saved Christianity around the world. Have no doubts...Go ahead.
@allan_0307 you miss understand me. I'm already a Catholic! I've been one my entire life but after I heard about this, I'm thinking Catholic is not the way for me! I'm still a god loving Christian,who accepts Jesus as my lord and Savior! But I'm thinking of leaving the Catholic church over this! And so is my entire congregation.
I left the Roman Catholic Church many years ago because of the doctrines that are in direct conflict with God’s Holy Word. While I an yet still a sinner I have rejected sin. It is the battle that I fight every day. Matthew16:24 “Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.” The reward in heaven is great.
@@jimmy5634 jumping into conclusion. 1. There's no doctrinal contradiction anywhere. 2. Be attentive. This is not the agenda of the Bishops but of the media. They're dreaming but it will never happen.
"Leviticus 20:13 (ESV): If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
True, when I first read this news I thought the Pope was actually allowing something that goes against the Bible to happen, than I go and read the full response from the Pope in Vatican News and it's a completely different story
@@superstarreviews9937 he was saying that the church can still bless gay people, regardless of whether they’re in a sinful relationship. He’s not saying the church blesses the relationship itself. It’s the equivalent of saying the Church can still bless someone who is having (heterosexual) premarital sex with their girlfriend or boyfriend while not blessing the premarital sex. Quite simple, hope that cleared it up for you.
The Vatican news agency's have to scramble like crazy to cover for this Pope. The idea that they are misunderstanding what he is doing is bs. They run cover for him. He is a bad Pope.
1st, too much leeway is given to local priests. 2nd, a twenty nineteen survey (bolstered by subsequent surveys) of close to 2,000 faithful NO and TLM showed that over two thirds of NO are pro-g a e maRRiage, many priests and bishops are also, many of them are lax on explaining the Church’s stance against this but instead peddle their own agenda, Francis nominated pro-l g 🐝 to the Synod, and he has zero history of canceling priests and bishops (like the German bishops) who have went so far as to bless the unions. 3rd, there's no need for an individual to go a priest for an individual blessing (but not for their union) separately from going forward for a blessing after communion with arms crossed. 4th, only they and they alone were apparently special enough to be specifically spoken on and a big to-do made over them by Francis and the Synod. No specific announcements made to show accompaniment to straight people living together, but who want an individual blessing but not for their quasi-union, and no big to do was made over people in yet another unbiblical maRRiage after another but yet want a blessing for themselves but not their union. No one is fooled by what is going on here.
How the hell can you bless something God calls sin? If the Pope allows this He will be falling away from the God of the Bible and the Pope will be on his own. I chose to serve God rather than man!
This is disgusting and sad. How are you going to lead many to hell living that lifestyle. It’s not a blessing it’s a curse! Repent and get right with Jesus. Trust me no sin is worth spending eternity in hell.
Does the Pope really think he can smooth it over with God? God’s Truth does not change God’s Word never changes His Love is limitless but sin is sin and we ate all sinners Repentance and Christ are the Only Way the Only Truth the Only Life
There is no way to bless sin. No way. God please do not allow this man to lead Christ people to the wrong path. It has reached the point where we would only turn to our Bibles for advice.
There's no negotiation between homosexuality and the holy spirit. Never. Stop conforming to sin in the name of love. . The pope's days are near but he is moving away from the right path. It's a shame nyani
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations." Deuteronomy 18:9 Run from the RCC. Christ is not there.
what is happening with our pope..? where is the moral stand of the church? no matter what people say about lbtq it is still against the teaching of Jesus, marriage of the same sex.
@@monk4ever Bro it cannot actually happen. I don't think you understand how this works. The media certainly doesn't. Dogma *CANNOT* change in the Church.
I do not understand. If you are a bible believer....it clearly states what is acceptable and pleasing to God. The Bible is clear. I am not speaking against anyones choices for all have sinned. But you can not change the holy word to accommodate any of the sins spoken against.
The satan and his ideologies r blessed by The Pope....let us say rosary and ask the help of our lady to uphold the true catholic church . AVE MARIA!!!!!!
if so.. they really didn't understand or miss understood God's blessing of go and multiply.. their multiplication is on strengthening in opposing prolife.. what an earthly pope..
Isaiah 9:14-17 14 Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day. 15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. 16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. 17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Revelation 18:-“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal. For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.” “‘Come out of her, my people so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes. Give back to her as she has given pay her back double for what she has done.
*1 Corinthians 6.8,9* Men who practice *homosexuality…* Thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. The Bible doesn't condemn only immoral lifestyles but all practices that God hates such as people who steal, who enjoy getting drunk, among other wrong practices. Drinking isn't a sin. Jesus' first miracle recorded in the Bible was turning water to fine wine at a wedding between a man and a woman. He didn't attend a same-sex communion. These lifestyles will not exist in God's Kingdom when established on earth. Christ was made King of heaven and earth by Jehovah God, his heavenly Father. Jesus' first act in heaven was to remove evil and hurled Satan the devil with his demons to earth. Soon, he will again remove (cast out) the devil from earth and put him in an abyss for 1000 years. (Revelation 20.1,2)
How do people in the news come out with such falsehoods??? He is merely suggesting a blessing for a gay person who wants to live a better life. How is that blessing "same sex unions"? The news people NEVER seem to do their homework anymore.
The Pope has no authority to change what is written by Jehovah God. His days are counted and coming to an end along with this wicked system of things. Babylon the Great will soon fall. (False religion) 🌎
Ten horned beast in Book of Revelation represents Roman Empire but at a higher level represents governments. Babylon aka False Prophet represents Roman Catholic Church but at a higher level represents Apostate Churches and a phase of paganism that not only includes traditional pagans but in the Book of Revelation Babylon now includes Apostate Churches. Now False Prophet sets up "image (church and it's members) of the beast" that take on the moral image of the Ten Horned beast of government in this instance the advancement of Antichrist non traditional marriages that have been legalized by the government. Image of the beast is also the Eucharist Mass Wafer aka Abomination of Desolation. Papacy claims through Transubstantiation bread literally becomes Jesus. They turned the wafer into an idol and the wafer is their pagan god. Apostate in the Greek equals 666. The Book of Revelation is being played out before our eyes. "And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image (Apostate Churches who embrace paganism which includes Antichrist government non traditional marriage laws ) to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived." Revelation 13:14 NKJV............
Holy Pope, Holy Priest. Please Pope just live your life as a former bouncer. You have messed the whole doctrine of JESUS CHRIST. Whether you widthraw the statement, we now know whom you serve. NOT THE GOD OF NOSES AND ELIJAH
I often times find myself in a conflict with Pope Francis and with what he's doing. There's two options that I can go with. 1. I can agree with him on blessing same gender marriage in the Catholic church and disagree with traditional Catholics who are opposed to it. 2. I can disagree with him on the blessing of same gender marriage and say that it's not right at all and agree with the traditional Catholics. If you listened to Dr. Taylor Marshall and Fr. James Altman, you'll realize that they're saying that Pope Francis is a fraud and can't be trusted at all. But regardless of what Pope Francis does, I continue praying for him with my Holy Rosary.
No he did not. On 9-30-23, Cardinal Fernandez conducted an interview in which he clearly stated that only people receive blessings to lead holier lives. That a union cannot be blessed because it would imply matrimony. This is a position the Pope has maintained since 2021. On 10-2-24, the Cardinals released their Q&A implying otherwise. For non Catholics this is confusing. For Catholics this is another attempt to discredit the Pope and is leading to schism.
If a gay couple should not reject sin but choose love, why would they seek marriage and Church blessing? - Could they just simply have sex? This matter does not look straightforward at all. Remembering that the sins of soul are much more mortal than the sins of body, can we allow ourselves to fall into spiritual sins of self-righteousness and judging while pretending to fight bodily sins of homosexual people?
You people of little faith don’t understand what a blessing is,a blessing is doing the right things.Jesus Christ didn’t come for the righteous,he came for the sick.Many of you only think the things of this world don’t judge.We don’t think like God and God doesn’t think like us.We don’t know Gods plan and start being the judge?
Ok guys don’t get worked up, if you notice the channels that say The pope wants to bless samesex union they are often liberal media, pope Francis said in a interview with the cardinals that marriage is between man and woman however if a person of homosexual inclinations ask for blessing , give the blessing , but the blessing is on the individual not on the unnatural union, because the person should be loved, but his inclination/ sin should be hated to the core
im praying this is the case. i want to get married and have children, but i'm a queer woman. i can't change myself, no matter how hard i try. all i want is to live on a farm with a wife and children, but i can't be wed by my own Church, so i pray Pope Francis will bless same-sex unions, so i may get the chance to do what i've wanted to do since i was little🫶🏻
Why do you think that it's OK to force your issues on others. Go find a Church that has already been infiltrated with your issues and go there. The Church is there to change people to be more like what God expects from us. Not to change the Church to be like a fallen World. Respect.
@@woogy1131 no protestant denominal uses practices like praying the rosary, or honoring Mary the way Catholicism (or Orthodoxy!) does. idk why it's controversial to say i shouldn't be forced to be celebate bc of something quite literally out of my control.
Why should I concern myself with what two consenting adults do? When we have more pressing and yet lingering threats to worry about.. Such as the threat of WW3, Unemployment, Food insecurity, Terrorism et cetera 😏
I concern myself because all these bad things you mention lead to death of a fallen world. This world will suffer all these things because of sin. Concern for what sinful acts people do and faith in the one who can save us after we die is really all that really matters. So we all make a choice and if you choose correctly you go to a better place if not you don't. So I concern myself. If you don't, it's on you. It's that simple. Follow God's commandments and trust in God and his Son or don't.
Ps. I painted my profile from memory. Its the real Jesus. I made sure too paint him right. Other saint did not like the artists work. So I. Did it Myself.
“See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray" (Matthew 18:10-13). So our Lord says. Love and acceptance can make miracles of soul transformation, and Pope Francis' vision on the same-sex unions seems to be about love and acceptance. Indeed, if two adult people (regardless of their sex) want to be together and ask for God's blessing, they reject sin for the sake love. Must not Church help them? Faithfully yours, bishop Vincent Berg.
So respectfully. I never hear anything about obstaining from reprobate sexual practices. How is excepting and blessing same sex unions helpful. It is an endorsement of sin. If Jesus was in their bedroom sitting on the headboard watching over them doing unimaginable acts would he smile and say. How wonderful, Love is Love? I really doubt it.
@@woogy1131 Material life, created by God - from viruses and bacteria to humans - is all about constant mutating, developing and changing. God created life various and dynamic in opposition to indefinitely unchanging death. God's Bible and Church are for living and developing humans - and not for dead ones. The time has come to welcome our acceptance of Holy Scripture as spiritually creating and inspiring Word of loving God and reject a short-sighted vision of Holy Scripture as a primitive conglomerate of dogmas and rules. For example, some people refer to Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them". Does this mean that about 4% of human population should be now "put to death"? Would it be a proclaimed Christian way of love and acceptance? Would it be compatible with words of our Lord: ""Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone" (John 8:7). Apostol Paul in 1 Cor 6:9,10 was talking specifically about "men who have sex with men" to just satisfy their lust, and not about homosexuality as such. The Holy Scripture says about sexual lust, but nothing specifically about homosexuality and same sex people, who want to live together in love and faith. Sadly, there are some self-righteous people, perhaps pretending to be without sin and easily casting "stones of condemnation" after reading some texts from the Holy Scripture but failing their spiritual consideration in the context of the entire Bible. Yours in our Lord, bishop Vincent Berg.
That's what the father told me they're not anointed to blessed note same-sex marriage but I am and they know it. That's why they fight me left and right try to kill me
Pope Francis most certainly did not hint at the possibility of blessing gay unions. That is a media misrepresentation of his actual words. He said that Bishops might be able to provide blessings to homosexual people who want to accord with Church teachings. This would mean that someone who had same sex attraction, but intended to stay chaste. It’s no different to say a heterosexual separated person who was to partake in the sacramental church life but didn’t want to transgress the basic tenets of church teaching in sexuality, and therefore needed to remain chaste. The Pope has issued these statements as a way of emphasising that being gay, or having same sex attraction isn’t a sin. Having homosexual thoughts in the form of temptations is not a sin. Taking those thoughts further and then acting on them is the sin. It’s exactly that same for an unmarried heterosexual person. He is trying to emphasise and move away from discrimination in society, to state that the church, and God certainly doesn’t preclude gay people from a life dedicated to seeking Jesus and his Kingdom through the Church. This doctrine has always been of the Church’s repository of faith even if it hasn’t been articulated and practiced in such a evangelical way in the past. The hatred and vilification of someone because they have same sexy attraction is repugnant and I accept to most genuine Christian’s and is the opposite of what Jesus taught (remember, he is God so also authored the Old Testament) There is still the issue of Scripture and Church doctrine not condoning homosexual acts, and I don’t know what to make of that other than to say ‘that’s what it says’. But nothing says there should be any hated or discrimination at all by the world at large. Entering the sacramental and liturgical life of the Church is another thing . Under those conditions, the person wishing to do so would have to come to grips with the Church’s teachings There are still a millions other Christian denominations that have opened their books to practicing gay couples, but the Catholic Church isn’t one of them. Anyway, from here one can get lost in the theological weeds, but suffice to say - Francis is saying ITS NOT ABOUT BEING GAY. He wants the faithful to move past the ‘being gay is a sin’ whilst still holding to ‘doing gay is still a sin’ I know that’s a lot to still reconcile, but at this interim stage, people need to understand both the question he answers and the answer itself in relation to his previous, and the church’s position of homosexuality, blessings, salvation and repentance
You make some good points, but too much leeway is given to local priests. 2nd, a twenty nineteen survey (bolstered by subsequent surveys) of close to 2,000 faithful NO and TLM showed that over two thirds of NO are pro-g a e maRRiage, many priests and bishops are also, many of them are lax on explaining the Church’s stance against this but instead peddle their own agenda, Francis nominated pro-l g 🐝 to the Synod, and he has zero history of canceling priests and bishops (like the German bishops) who have went so far as to bless the unions. 3rd, there's no need for an individual to go a priest for an individual blessing (but not for their union) separately from going forward for a blessing after communion with arms crossed. 4th, only they and they alone were apparently special enough to be specifically spoken on and a big to-do made over them by Francis and the Synod. No specific announcemebts made to shoa accompaniment to straight people living together, but who want an individual blessing but not for their union, and no big to do was made in reaching out either to people in yet another unbiblical maRRiage but wanting a blessing for themselves but not their union. No one is fooled by what is going on here.
@@Bryanisright33 yes and yes again. All great points against my perhaps excessive optimism. The cast he has surrounded himself with is provocative as it is confusing. It taps into the broader concern about the ascendancy of a rather ill-informed laity who he is empowering through the Synod process. Here in Australia, last years Plenary council resolutions that were forwarded is a collection of secular claims. Environmental, indigenous issues, women deacons. I consider myself a progressive conservative who is very open to genuine reform to ensure a feeling of faith and worship, but the Report reeks of secular capitulation to a series of manufactured and manipulated social issues. Anyway, returning to your points, Francis is a bit of an enigma. Surrounds himself with progressive agitants but all that he has issues is rock solid traditional doctrine. But, it’s the ambiguity that has people arms. I might be about to discern the theological difference between gay and gay acts, but to millions it’s tacit approval. I still grapple with the topic but default to scripture and the church teachings. But by dragging it out as he has, he is possibly laying a well intentioned trap for everyone who is transgressing the sexual boundaries of the faith. Unmarried, second marriages, casual rooters, watchers of porn, the self-satisfiers I know I sound hardline, but I only concern myself with the list of things that concern me and my personal struggles. I have no judgment on others. But I still hold the orthodox position I still hold out hope and secretly believe that Francis tactics are run approach salvation for all softly softly - rather that getting out on the balcony and going all old-timey preacher on everyone’s ass. And … he is still acting and talking well within the bounds of doctrine. I really don’t know what happens when he stops doing that and goes rogue But, totally agree with the concern of your points
@@eddiej9733 Again, good points. I see a solution A.) him publicly saying God loves the sinner but not the sin (and that goes for everyone he should add). B.) If anyone is experiencing unwanted attractions they are welcome to attend church anytime, we love them, will counsel them, same for those who are in yet another unbiblical 3rd, 4th, 5th maRRiage, and on and on. C.) Come forward for a blessing at the end of communion with arms crossed. But he didn't and his actions provide insight into much about him provided by whom he surrounds himself with, whom he nominated to the Synod, whom he cancels and doesn't, and so on.
@@Bryanisright33 brilliant and on point, especially your first point. Even a detailed exegesis of the critical issues. Even the difference’s between the desire and the act (as scripture only talks about the act). The difference between monetary temptation to mental obsession. And the big one, explaining the best that can be on why we take the bible as inerrant and the Christian commitment to it, as well as what it might be about homosexual acts themselves (one I studied years ago dealt with same sex attractions being the height of egotistical self-love… bit scant, but with the exploration. Open, transparent theological engagement. Maybe the testimonies of the millions of separated Catholics where reconciling is impossible, who then choose to be celebrate for the rest of their lives. That’s me. I struggle with lust and temptation but am committed to the greater tenets because I can SEE the sense and reason for the doctrine. Esp today, with the explosion in numbers of same sex attracted people. It blows my mind the assent of LGBTQ…… numbers, rights, dominance in culture. And when the head is indeterminant, the limbs will flail everywhere which is what will happen to bishops and priests - your right
@@Bryanisright33 but it is interesting that the nuance of the issue and Francis actual words have been misrepresented by every single news outlet as an imminent approval of gay unions…. Yikes
This is really a curse for the society. And accepting it is surely a great sin
Lord Jesus...Save Catholicism. Save us from the corrupt.
Hey there :)
Have You already contemplated the following information in the Holy Spirit? For me this was very helpful.
-> for a biblical study to understand up-dated state of the art bible views of the progressive Church:
a) search for "Are Biblical Laws About Homosexuality Eternal Friedman and Dolansky" on Google. AND for original text-studies on biblical teaching in the hebrew and greek original text: search for "would Jesus discriminate born gay" on Google. For a deeper Look about how the Bible reflects on Eunuches and "Born Eunuches" search for "where Eunuches homosexuals" on Google.
b) For a inclusivistic/inclusive proof from the Holy Scripture that it does include modern science as part of the broader truth of God You may study and contemplate the following scripture:
- direct proof for science as part of Gods truth (important as modern science pictures a more differentiated picture of lgbtqia+ causes and realities):
1. different religions/cultures/disciplines are able to know GOD (Romans 2:14-15 , Acts 17:27-29)
2. GOD can be recognized by studying and researching His creation and its realities (Romans 1, 19-20)
3. CHRIST/GOD can be known and be followed by people in in/with other disciplins/religions than just Christians&Jews (based again on Romans 2:14-15 + Genesis 20, 9-11 + 1 Corinthians 5,1)
c) more biblical verses about a loving and inclusive/inlcusivistic God are in addition to the ones above:
GOD Bless all His/Her Offspring (Acts 17:28-29).
GOD is Love. (1st John 4:16) Love does Not take evil into account nor does it think any evil. (1st Corinthians 13:5)
CHRIST is the ground-structure of the Universe (Colossians 1:16)
GODS life lives in all His creatures (Gen 2:7, Gen 7:21-22)
GOD is Like a good mother/father (Isaiah 66,13)
I show You these verses as a firm Catholic, a follower of Jesus, a reborn in Christ, a child of God AND a universal interdisciplinary interreligious scientific-orientated Christian.
May the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit guide us always towards a strong and true community of saints 🙏🏼
Blessings and best wishes with respect. 💚🌹
@@DoubleOhSilver Could you explain me?
Yes please explain because right now,I'm thinking of converting as early as this Sunday!
@@superstarreviews9937 Bro...don't question catholicism but question the pope. I'm happy to hear you have decided to convert. Catholicism saved Christianity around the world. Have no doubts...Go ahead.
@allan_0307 you miss understand me. I'm already a Catholic! I've been one my entire life but after I heard about this, I'm thinking Catholic is not the way for me! I'm still a god loving Christian,who accepts Jesus as my lord and Savior! But I'm thinking of leaving the Catholic church over this! And so is my entire congregation.
UNBELIEVABLE!
It is not true. This is the mainstream media you are listening to....why?
I left the Roman Catholic Church many years ago because of the doctrines that are in direct conflict with God’s Holy Word.
While I an yet still a sinner I have rejected sin. It is the battle that I fight every day.
Matthew16:24
“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.”
The reward in heaven is great.
@@jimmy5634What doctrines contradict God's Word??????
@@jimmy5634you are one victim of fake news.
@@jimmy5634 jumping into conclusion. 1. There's no doctrinal contradiction anywhere. 2. Be attentive. This is not the agenda of the Bishops but of the media. They're dreaming but it will never happen.
Millions will flee to the Orthodox and coptic Orthodox Churches. 🙏
Count me in on that. Orthodoxy has maintained 1st century faith and practices.
I'm catholic and really disappointed 😞
Don't believe the news. None of this is true.
I'm catholic and really disappointed that you listen to what the mainstream media says about the Pope rather than listening to the Pope himself!
Accept the downfall of Catholicism. Oh wait, that's been happening for centuries. 😮
@@monk4ever Yeh you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about 🤣
@@wordforever117you couldn't of said it better yourself, the media is twisting the popes words to make the world even more devided
Jesus please come 🙏 please come we tired of this world
Forget the catholic religion which is not Christian - trust Jesus Christ alone for salvation. John 14:6.
What is going on here???? Does he know what the Bible says???
Check Vatican news for the full response, the Pope isnt doing anything that goes against the Bible
"Leviticus 20:13 (ESV): If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
You know that was written by a man?
End times.
No, it's just the mainstream media lying again. Same old.
definitely
Why would he ever do that
Money!!!
The news is gonna take him out of context as usual. I long for a pope that is more concerned about his flock than the media and secular culture.
True, when I first read this news I thought the Pope was actually allowing something that goes against the Bible to happen, than I go and read the full response from the Pope in Vatican News and it's a completely different story
Please explain then
@@superstarreviews9937 he was saying that the church can still bless gay people, regardless of whether they’re in a sinful relationship. He’s not saying the church blesses the relationship itself. It’s the equivalent of saying the Church can still bless someone who is having (heterosexual) premarital sex with their girlfriend or boyfriend while not blessing the premarital sex. Quite simple, hope that cleared it up for you.
The Vatican news agency's have to scramble like crazy to cover for this Pope. The idea that they are misunderstanding what he is doing is bs. They run cover for him. He is a bad Pope.
Somebody should tell him, how God dealt with Sodom and Gomorrah.
Gods wrath will be severe! Something is truly wrong with this planet! Disgusting and shameful!
And people have the nerves to ask "why god let bad things to happen"
Our Pope must resigned immediately.
1st, too much leeway is given to local priests.
2nd, a twenty nineteen survey (bolstered by subsequent surveys) of close to 2,000 faithful NO and TLM showed that over two thirds of NO are pro-g a e maRRiage, many priests and bishops are also, many of them are lax on explaining the Church’s stance against this but instead peddle their own agenda, Francis nominated pro-l g 🐝 to the Synod, and he has zero history of canceling priests and bishops (like the German bishops) who have went so far as to bless the unions.
3rd, there's no need for an individual to go a priest for an individual blessing (but not for their union) separately from going forward for a blessing after communion with arms crossed.
4th, only they and they alone were apparently special enough to be specifically spoken on and a big to-do made over them by Francis and the Synod. No specific announcements made to show accompaniment to straight people living together, but who want an individual blessing but not for their quasi-union, and no big to do was made over people in yet another unbiblical maRRiage after another but yet want a blessing for themselves but not their union.
No one is fooled by what is going on here.
Many are called few are chosen..
'Many will come in my name saying I am the Christ' Do not follow them. Christ Jesus
If that is the case he should retire very first; blessing gay marriage is desteoying church of Jesus Christ. God have mercy on your before it happens.
How the hell can you bless something God calls sin? If the Pope allows this He will be falling away from the God of the Bible and the Pope will be on his own. I chose to serve God rather than man!
This is disgusting and sad. How are you going to lead many to hell living that lifestyle. It’s not a blessing it’s a curse! Repent and get right with Jesus. Trust me no sin is worth spending eternity in hell.
Why are you believing what the mainstream media are saying about the Church?
Oh, and you're so sure you're going to heaven? 😂
@@monk4ever You are mistaking Catholicism for Calvinism....that is hilarious
@@monk4ever 100% sure I will be saved
Does the Pope really think he can smooth it over with God?
God’s Truth does not change
God’s Word never changes
His Love is limitless but sin is sin
and we ate all sinners
Repentance and Christ are the Only Way the Only Truth the Only Life
This is MADNESS!!!!!
AGREED! ABSOLUTE MADNESS!!!!!!!!!
No it’s not. It’s wonderful
There is no way to bless sin. No way. God please do not allow this man to lead Christ people to the wrong path. It has reached the point where we would only turn to our Bibles for advice.
There's no negotiation between homosexuality and the holy spirit. Never. Stop conforming to sin in the name of love. . The pope's days are near but he is moving away from the right path. It's a shame nyani
He is an impostor, he is not a real pope
Yes he is the real Pope. The mainstream media is not real news.
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations." Deuteronomy 18:9
Run from the RCC. Christ is not there.
what is happening with our pope..? where is the moral stand of the church? no matter what people say about lbtq it is still against the teaching of Jesus, marriage of the same sex.
We will only believe in God but not in people we are all sinners
Smh. What a world we live in
This absolutely cannot happen!!!! Oh dear God, please help the faithful. We cannot bless sin!
Correct, it cannot happen. Also the media are liars, so not sure what you are worried about.
It will happen. Accept your doom. 😂
@@monk4ever Bro it cannot actually happen. I don't think you understand how this works. The media certainly doesn't. Dogma *CANNOT* change in the Church.
That man need Jesus.
This is the beginning to an end of what faith is
I agree!
Faith exists within you, not from some guy who claims he's closer to God.
I do not understand. If you are a bible believer....it clearly states what is acceptable and pleasing to God. The Bible is clear. I am not speaking against anyones choices for all have sinned. But you can not change the holy word to accommodate any of the sins spoken against.
Imposter!
This is death symbol of the earth 🌎.
What a disgraceful Pope
I'm stunned, but not surprised!
The satan and his ideologies r blessed by The Pope....let us say rosary and ask the help of our lady to uphold the true catholic church . AVE MARIA!!!!!!
if so.. they really didn't understand or miss understood God's blessing of go and multiply.. their multiplication is on strengthening in opposing prolife.. what an earthly pope..
Come on we all knew this was coming given the amount of Homosexuals in the clergy. Orthodoxy is starting to look attractive.
What are uou on about
Isaiah 9:14-17
14 Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.
17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
It’s time for Catholics to embrace the Orthodox Faith ☦️.
Revelation 18:-“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal. For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.” “‘Come out of her, my people
so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.
Give back to her as she has given pay her back double for what she has done.
*1 Corinthians 6.8,9*
Men who practice *homosexuality…* Thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
The Bible doesn't condemn only immoral lifestyles but all practices that God hates such as people who steal, who enjoy getting drunk, among other wrong practices. Drinking isn't a sin. Jesus' first miracle recorded in the Bible was turning water to fine wine at a wedding between a man and a woman. He didn't attend a same-sex communion.
These lifestyles will not exist in God's Kingdom when established on earth. Christ was made King of heaven and earth by Jehovah God, his heavenly Father. Jesus' first act in heaven was to remove evil and hurled Satan the devil with his demons to earth. Soon, he will again remove (cast out) the devil from earth and put him in an abyss for 1000 years. (Revelation 20.1,2)
And who saying that that isn't a sin?
You don't have no authority to do that so when you do that I'm going to laugh at your calamity
Nope. Not what he said. He said bless the participants, not the "union". Media lies.
How do people in the news come out with such falsehoods??? He is merely suggesting a blessing for a gay person who wants to live a better life. How is that blessing "same sex unions"? The news people NEVER seem to do their homework anymore.
The WOKE pope! Que se hace? What a shame. 👎
The Pope has no authority to change what is written by Jehovah God. His days are counted and coming to an end along with this wicked system of things. Babylon the Great will soon fall. (False religion) 🌎
It's a shame that the pope endorses sin.
It's shame you don't care enough to realize he isn't
Ten horned beast in Book of Revelation represents Roman Empire but at a higher level represents governments. Babylon aka False Prophet represents Roman Catholic Church but at a higher level represents Apostate Churches and a phase of paganism that not only includes traditional pagans but in the Book of Revelation Babylon now includes Apostate Churches. Now False Prophet sets up "image (church and it's members) of the beast" that take on the moral image of the Ten Horned beast of government in this instance the advancement of Antichrist non traditional marriages that have been legalized by the government. Image of the beast is also the Eucharist Mass Wafer aka Abomination of Desolation. Papacy claims through Transubstantiation bread literally becomes Jesus. They turned the wafer into an idol and the wafer is their pagan god. Apostate in the Greek equals 666. The Book of Revelation is being played out before our eyes. "And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image (Apostate Churches who embrace paganism which includes Antichrist government non traditional marriage laws ) to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived." Revelation 13:14 NKJV............
He hasn't read The Bible with faith
Holy Pope, Holy Priest. Please Pope just live your life as a former bouncer. You have messed the whole doctrine of JESUS CHRIST. Whether you widthraw the statement, we now know whom you serve. NOT THE GOD OF NOSES AND ELIJAH
Judaism for the gentiles..
Shocking...
Madness!
That’s how they got their foot in the door on the civil side 50 yrs ago and now look where we are?
I often times find myself in a conflict with Pope Francis and with what he's doing. There's two options that I can go with.
1. I can agree with him on blessing same gender marriage in the Catholic church and disagree with traditional Catholics who are opposed to it.
2. I can disagree with him on the blessing of same gender marriage and say that it's not right at all and agree with the traditional Catholics. If you listened to Dr. Taylor Marshall and Fr. James Altman, you'll realize that they're saying that Pope Francis is a fraud and can't be trusted at all. But regardless of what Pope Francis does, I continue praying for him with my Holy Rosary.
The Pope does not have the authority to change the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. This is much to do about nothing.
Catastrophic Pope...He should go FAST
Whyyyyyyy are you listening to the mainstream media????
So this guy's infallible, eh? I don't think so.
No he did not. On 9-30-23, Cardinal Fernandez conducted an interview in which he clearly stated that only people receive blessings to lead holier lives. That a union cannot be blessed because it would imply matrimony. This is a position the Pope has maintained since 2021. On 10-2-24, the Cardinals released their Q&A implying otherwise. For non Catholics this is confusing. For Catholics this is another attempt to discredit the Pope and is leading to schism.
If a gay couple should not reject sin but choose love, why would they seek marriage and Church blessing? - Could they just simply have sex? This matter does not look straightforward at all. Remembering that the sins of soul are much more mortal than the sins of body, can we allow ourselves to fall into spiritual sins of self-righteousness and judging while pretending to fight bodily sins of homosexual people?
It doesn't matter....this "news" report is lying about what the Pope has said.
No
Why does the media want to twist the popes words so badly?
Which words are being twisted? How are they being twisted? The way I see it, things are pretty straightforward.
@@ernie5229go read full response of the Pope in the Vatican News mate
@@duceofwellington4755 You aren't even addressing my questions. Could you provide a little more context?
That pope defended the Charlie hebdo attackers so he basically is in the side of Islamic terroiskts
@@DoubleOhSilversays the troll
The Pope did not say that same-sex couples could be blessed.
We are definitely in the "end times", that's for sure!!
You people of little faith don’t understand what a blessing is,a blessing is doing the right things.Jesus Christ didn’t come for the righteous,he came for the sick.Many of you only think the things of this world don’t judge.We don’t think like God and God doesn’t think like us.We don’t know Gods plan and start being the judge?
Antipope.
This is why im orthodoxy…..
pretty impressive when he can trump the Bible ... they say God is dead! How's that working out???????
Michael, you just took what Fox says as the truth. Why?
pope francis never signaled possibility of blessing same-sex unions
you're wrong
Is the pope bi curious in the woods?
Ok guys don’t get worked up, if you notice the channels that say The pope wants to bless samesex union they are often liberal media, pope Francis said in a interview with the cardinals that marriage is between man and woman however if a person of homosexual inclinations ask for blessing , give the blessing , but the blessing is on the individual not on the unnatural union, because the person should be loved, but his inclination/ sin should be hated to the core
I HOPE THIS MESSAGE REACH TO POPE REPENT AND CONFESS JESUS LOVE YOU
im praying this is the case. i want to get married and have children, but i'm a queer woman. i can't change myself, no matter how hard i try.
all i want is to live on a farm with a wife and children, but i can't be wed by my own Church, so i pray Pope Francis will bless same-sex unions, so i may get the chance to do what i've wanted to do since i was little🫶🏻
Why do you think that it's OK to force your issues on others. Go find a Church that has already been infiltrated with your issues and go there. The Church is there to change people to be more like what God expects from us. Not to change the Church to be like a fallen World. Respect.
@@woogy1131 no protestant denominal uses practices like praying the rosary, or honoring Mary the way Catholicism (or Orthodoxy!) does. idk why it's controversial to say i shouldn't be forced to be celebate bc of something quite literally out of my control.
Why should I concern myself with what two consenting adults do? When we have more pressing and yet lingering threats to worry about.. Such as the threat of WW3, Unemployment, Food insecurity, Terrorism et cetera 😏
It is all connected mate, if we work to have good people in this earth than those things won't happen as much
I concern myself because all these bad things you mention lead to death of a fallen world. This world will suffer all these things because of sin. Concern for what sinful acts people do and faith in the one who can save us after we die is really all that really matters. So we all make a choice and if you choose correctly you go to a better place if not you don't. So I concern myself. If you don't, it's on you. It's that simple. Follow God's commandments and trust in God and his Son or don't.
@@woogy1131 AI is more concerning than some "divine" & conceited apes seeking nothing but control at the lowest of social levels..
Has anyone heard it from the popes mouth?? I haven’t. Only media which I don’t believe
Ps. I painted my profile from memory. Its the real Jesus. I made sure too paint him right. Other saint did not like the artists work. So I. Did it Myself.
Going to hell
Sad
Fake news. The pope said sin can never be blessed.
Well this aged well with the recent news.
Fake news
Finally someone says it
Lil Nas X Agenda
The more and more I watch the more and more misleading stuff is thrown in....
That's why he is sick!! He's still in d hospital 😭😭😭🥵
“See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray" (Matthew 18:10-13). So our Lord says. Love and acceptance can make miracles of soul transformation, and Pope Francis' vision on the same-sex unions seems to be about love and acceptance. Indeed, if two adult people (regardless of their sex) want to be together and ask for God's blessing, they reject sin for the sake love. Must not Church help them?
Faithfully yours, bishop Vincent Berg.
2:47
❤❤❤
So respectfully. I never hear anything about obstaining from reprobate sexual practices. How is excepting and blessing same sex unions helpful. It is an endorsement of sin. If Jesus was in their bedroom sitting on the headboard watching over them doing unimaginable acts would he smile and say. How wonderful, Love is Love? I really doubt it.
@@woogy1131 Material life, created by God - from viruses and bacteria to humans - is all about constant mutating, developing and changing. God created life various and dynamic in opposition to indefinitely unchanging death. God's Bible and Church are for living and developing humans - and not for dead ones. The time has come to welcome our acceptance of Holy Scripture as spiritually creating and inspiring Word of loving God and reject a short-sighted vision of Holy Scripture as a primitive conglomerate of dogmas and rules.
For example, some people refer to Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them". Does this mean that about 4% of human population should be now "put to death"? Would it be a proclaimed Christian way of love and acceptance? Would it be compatible with words of our Lord: ""Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone" (John 8:7).
Apostol Paul in 1 Cor 6:9,10 was talking specifically about "men who have sex with men" to just satisfy their lust, and not about homosexuality as such.
The Holy Scripture says about sexual lust, but nothing specifically about homosexuality and same sex people, who want to live together in love and faith.
Sadly, there are some self-righteous people, perhaps pretending to be without sin and easily casting "stones of condemnation" after reading some texts from the Holy Scripture but failing their spiritual consideration in the context of the entire Bible.
Yours in our Lord, bishop Vincent Berg.
Only I can bless that marriage
That's what the father told me they're not anointed to blessed note same-sex marriage but I am and they know it. That's why they fight me left and right try to kill me
Great job Pope!!
This pope stress 😃😃
Is the pope gon woke ridiculous👿👎👿👎
Pope Francis most certainly did not hint at the possibility of blessing gay unions. That is a media misrepresentation of his actual words. He said that Bishops might be able to provide blessings to homosexual people who want to accord with Church teachings.
This would mean that someone who had same sex attraction, but intended to stay chaste. It’s no different to say a heterosexual separated person who was to partake in the sacramental church life but didn’t want to transgress the basic tenets of church teaching in sexuality, and therefore needed to remain chaste.
The Pope has issued these statements as a way of emphasising that being gay, or having same sex attraction isn’t a sin. Having homosexual thoughts in the form of temptations is not a sin. Taking those thoughts further and then acting on them is the sin. It’s exactly that same for an unmarried heterosexual person.
He is trying to emphasise and move away from discrimination in society, to state that the church, and God certainly doesn’t preclude gay people from a life dedicated to seeking Jesus and his Kingdom through the Church.
This doctrine has always been of the Church’s repository of faith even if it hasn’t been articulated and practiced in such a evangelical way in the past.
The hatred and vilification of someone because they have same sexy attraction is repugnant and I accept to most genuine Christian’s and is the opposite of what Jesus taught (remember, he is God so also authored the Old Testament)
There is still the issue of Scripture and Church doctrine not condoning homosexual acts, and I don’t know what to make of that other than to say ‘that’s what it says’.
But nothing says there should be any hated or discrimination at all by the world at large. Entering the sacramental and liturgical life of the Church is another thing . Under those conditions, the person wishing to do so would have to come to grips with the Church’s teachings
There are still a millions other Christian denominations that have opened their books to practicing gay couples, but the Catholic Church isn’t one of them.
Anyway, from here one can get lost in the theological weeds, but suffice to say - Francis is saying ITS NOT ABOUT BEING GAY. He wants the faithful to move past the ‘being gay is a sin’ whilst still holding to ‘doing gay is still a sin’
I know that’s a lot to still reconcile, but at this interim stage, people need to understand both the question he answers and the answer itself in relation to his previous, and the church’s position of homosexuality, blessings, salvation and repentance
You make some good points, but too much leeway is given to local priests.
2nd, a twenty nineteen survey (bolstered by subsequent surveys) of close to 2,000 faithful NO and TLM showed that over two thirds of NO are pro-g a e maRRiage, many priests and bishops are also, many of them are lax on explaining the Church’s stance against this but instead peddle their own agenda, Francis nominated pro-l g 🐝 to the Synod, and he has zero history of canceling priests and bishops (like the German bishops) who have went so far as to bless the unions.
3rd, there's no need for an individual to go a priest for an individual blessing (but not for their union) separately from going forward for a blessing after communion with arms crossed.
4th, only they and they alone were apparently special enough to be specifically spoken on and a big to-do made over them by Francis and the Synod. No specific announcemebts made to shoa accompaniment to straight people living together, but who want an individual blessing but not for their union, and no big to do was made in reaching out either to people in yet another unbiblical maRRiage but wanting a blessing for themselves but not their union.
No one is fooled by what is going on here.
@@Bryanisright33 yes and yes again. All great points against my perhaps excessive optimism.
The cast he has surrounded himself with is provocative as it is confusing.
It taps into the broader concern about the ascendancy of a rather ill-informed laity who he is empowering through the Synod process.
Here in Australia, last years Plenary council resolutions that were forwarded is a collection of secular claims. Environmental, indigenous issues, women deacons.
I consider myself a progressive conservative who is very open to genuine reform to ensure a feeling of faith and worship, but the Report reeks of secular capitulation to a series of manufactured and manipulated social issues.
Anyway, returning to your points, Francis is a bit of an enigma. Surrounds himself with progressive agitants but all that he has issues is rock solid traditional doctrine.
But, it’s the ambiguity that has people arms. I might be about to discern the theological difference between gay and gay acts, but to millions it’s tacit approval. I still grapple with the topic but default to scripture and the church teachings.
But by dragging it out as he has, he is possibly laying a well intentioned trap for everyone who is transgressing the sexual boundaries of the faith. Unmarried, second marriages, casual rooters, watchers of porn, the self-satisfiers
I know I sound hardline, but I only concern myself with the list of things that concern me and my personal struggles. I have no judgment on others. But I still hold the orthodox position
I still hold out hope and secretly believe that Francis tactics are run approach salvation for all softly softly - rather that getting out on the balcony and going all old-timey preacher on everyone’s ass.
And … he is still acting and talking well within the bounds of doctrine.
I really don’t know what happens when he stops doing that and goes rogue
But, totally agree with the concern of your points
@@eddiej9733 Again, good points.
I see a solution A.) him publicly saying God loves the sinner but not the sin (and that goes for everyone he should add).
B.) If anyone is experiencing unwanted attractions they are welcome to attend church anytime, we love them, will counsel them, same for those who are in yet another unbiblical 3rd, 4th, 5th maRRiage, and on and on.
C.) Come forward for a blessing at the end of communion with arms crossed.
But he didn't and his actions provide insight into much about him provided by whom he surrounds himself with, whom he nominated to the Synod, whom he cancels and doesn't, and so on.
@@Bryanisright33 brilliant and on point, especially your first point. Even a detailed exegesis of the critical issues. Even the difference’s between the desire and the act (as scripture only talks about the act). The difference between monetary temptation to mental obsession.
And the big one, explaining the best that can be on why we take the bible as inerrant and the Christian commitment to it, as well as what it might be about homosexual acts themselves (one I studied years ago dealt with same sex attractions being the height of egotistical self-love… bit scant, but with the exploration. Open, transparent theological engagement.
Maybe the testimonies of the millions of separated Catholics where reconciling is impossible, who then choose to be celebrate for the rest of their lives. That’s me. I struggle with lust and temptation but am committed to the greater tenets because I can SEE the sense and reason for the doctrine.
Esp today, with the explosion in numbers of same sex attracted people. It blows my mind the assent of LGBTQ…… numbers, rights, dominance in culture.
And when the head is indeterminant, the limbs will flail everywhere which is what will happen to bishops and priests - your right
@@Bryanisright33 but it is interesting that the nuance of the issue and Francis actual words have been misrepresented by every single news outlet as an imminent approval of gay unions…. Yikes
Misleading
It’s ideology vs faith in the comments
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