JD 2025R/2038R user comparison video
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Had some time on the2038R now and have my thoughts between the two tractors. As much as I loved my 2025R and will always speak very highly of it's capabilities, it's clear to me now that the 2038R is simply a lot more tractor.
Good job on the video. Tractor Time with Tim recommended your channel.
Thank you!!
Yes, Tim mentioning my channel has been a blessing to me, thanks for joining.
Did you move round bales with your 2025r
Yes I did, but then we started making 4x5’s instead of 4x4’s. The 2025R still did them, but the 2038 does them a lot easier.
That Grizzly is good, I like it myself, nice video! Very nice honest opinion of an awesome tractor. I own a 1025r & looking at the 2038r to upgrade in the near future, the reason I’m watching this video, keep posting videos, your doing an awesome job. 😊
Thanks Tom, the 2038R is a great tractor, if you upgrade you won't be disappointed. As for the grizzly, well, a man is allowed at least one vice right? Lol
Im right with ya! My 1025R is 29 hrs the 2038 is a huge difference especially in rear lift height split brakes are awesome!
Just looking back at this video -- so, excited to get mine in 12 days! Thanks for the review -- was one of the deciding factors in my decision!
I'm glad to hear that, you'll be very impressed at how much more tractor it is. Congratulations
Pretty nice comparison video. I am over here from Tractor Time with Tim. He mentioned your site on his latest video. You are doing a good job.
Thank you Stan
I don't mind the 4 wheel drive selector location, but the enable disable can be very difficult.
My 3 series is like this, and goes in and out hard sometimes. I saw a teardown, and the engagement is NOT much to get it going, like 1/3 of an inch gear overlap. So I go easy on the lever, maybe move the tractor if needed.
I'm here for the 5% TTWT discount 😂
What got you to buy the 38 over the 32?
The story most like to tell is this. My in laws had a nice dairy farm, back in 1990 my father in law wanted a utility tractor, the owner of the dealership had a 2355 and a 2555, they are the same tractor, much like the 2032 and 2038. When my FIL asked him which was better the owner said, "well, the 2555 has a turbo, so it much be better" LOL
So that's the joke telling story, that I bought this one because it has a turbo, so it much be better.
My story is this, why not get all the HP you can, it opens up doors for different and larger implements down the road.
I love my 2038R
Nice toolbox mod
Thank you, I got the idea from a guy on a FB group. I actually like it there although it does catch a lot of everything the front tire slings around.
Nice comparison
where did you get that toolbox and mount for your loader?
The toolbox is just the toolbox that came with my original 1023E. To mount it I used the two existing holes in the loader mast and some long bolts with 1/2" pipe for spacers.
Very nice comparison video. Your honesty goes a long way. I am now considering the 38r. A 25r would suit me fine but you do make some good points. Also I like the draw bar that comes on the 38r. The lift heights are another good point. I know a lot of people say the split brakes are useless, I use mine on my garden tractor quite a bit. It really comes in handy when back blading and your front tires aren't getting much traction. Anyway you have provided good information. Thanks.
Thank you
Great review & comparison. That you you for helping me to feel even better about my recent 2038r purchase. Quick question. I see you have additions to your iMatch quick hitch, do you use those to carry tools? They look really handy. May I ask where you got them?
Yes, they are from boltonhooks.com
Thank you
I bet I know where you found that idea for that tool box placement.
Yes sir, and I still believe it's the best spot for it.
@@ElkCreekAcres I had posted it on the 2 series group almost a year ago.
@@eareinbold I remember it vividly, thanks again for posting. Like I said, I have grown to like it there.
👍 Good comparo 😀. My 2025r has been enough for me. Once Tim went 2038r I wanted one. Didn’t need it, but wanted it. Fun fact there is one thing the 1025r/2025r can do more. 260B has higher boom lift capacity 😎
Thank you, if I ever downsize in the future it would be another 2025R, that was honestly my favorite tractor that I’ve owned.
Nice Honest opinions based on real world use, Thanks!
Thank you
Tractor time good. It provides quiet time. Headphones with tunes
That it is, almost like therapy.
It works good. Gets the job done. Would a 3046r get done a little quicker? Probably. But that's not the point.
I agree, that list is endless, a 4 series can do it better than a 3046R and so on. The 2038R is just the right size/capability for us.
Hi
I have a 2038r, which we love. We just sold an old 755, and replaced it with a 2025, for my wife. She loves it. It feels like an "old friend" after missing the 755! I just noticed that the red tail lights on the 2025 come on when the tractor is running. They do not on the 2038. I'm curious if you have noticed the same, since you also have both models.
Thanks very much
Tim
Now you're going to make me look LOL. I can't say that I remember noticing the taillights on the 2025 unless the lights were on, which is how it is on the 2038, only on when the lights are on. I know that for sure with my 2038, just not remembering if that's how it was on the 2025.
@@ElkCreekAcres Thank you. Only when you get a chance, don't make a special trip
Dealer did not mention muffler particulate filter replacement/clean out etc. Usually last three to five years before you may have to replace these filters. You also have two oxygen sensors (before and after psi sensors on that muffler) Time will tell. Good luck with the 38 hp ! FYI
Yes sir, no way around it with the newer stuff and that’s unfortunate.
@@ElkCreekAcres There is a way around this,buying older 2013 or later tractor. This is what most truckers in my area are doing.,if they can find one!
@@gregb2144 If you can find one, that is the key, I'm still searching for an older 4 series, 4720 to be exact.
@@ElkCreekAcres Good luck on your search for 4720 ,right in the honey spot for HP! Good choice!!
DPF should be good for about 3000 hours.
3-5 years means it would be replaced under emissions warranty and you know mother Deere wouldn't like that.
I grew up in NY on a farm and I went to Cazenovia Equipment all the time. The Frazees are dear family friends (pardon the pun)😂. I live in AZ now and am in the market for a tractor so just checking out some vids. Great videos.
Thanks for watching!! I have an awesome relationship with Caz, I've even been in several TV commercials for them.
@@ElkCreekAcres Very cool. We had Trinder Farm up in Pompey, NY. I remember getting out of school to go to their Open House every year. Very nice people at Caz Equipment. I am deciding on what Deere or Kubota to purchase for some small acreage land out here. I love the Deeres but the price point on the Kubotas seems to be much better in my location. Decisions Decisions! :)
@@Trinder3 I understand completely, I’ve owned 4 JD’s all bought from Caz. For me the deciding factor should be which dealer gives you the best support after the sale.
Great comparison. Do you have a similar vid. of your 1023 vs. 2025R? As much as I want a 2038R, it's not overly practical for my small property. I do plan on doing work for hire w/whatever I get but it may be mostly small lots where a 1025R or 2025R would be more suitable.
No I didn't do a video on the 1023 vs 2025. At the time I made that trade I was really just getting into the UA-cam thing. I will say that the 2025R to me felt more like a 1 series with benefits so to speak. I really enjoyed my 2025 and would still have it had our operation not outgrown it, I know that may not help your decision, but if I were choosing between the two I would get the 2025R if I had plans to do for hire work.
@@ElkCreekAcres Thanks! That does help. Now I just need to actually see a 2025R. Not many around @ dealers.
Did your 2025 120 loader implements fit on the 220 loader?
Yes, it came with a different(larger) bucket, but my plow, snow push and pallet forks are from my last tractor and work just fine.
I need to get scvs on my tractor soon
Nice review,more HP helps. How many regens have you experienced in the 64 hours ? That is the difference from 25 hp to larger hp tractors.
I have dealt with regens/DPF unit ,from Cummins . Lot of issues resolved from the first units to present day engines.( sell it first and deal with real world at customers expense) Thats how manufactures solve problems,updates from the cold weather environments ec .Enough said.
Yeah, I deal with Cummins issues at work too, I know what you mean. I’ve had one regen at 42 hours, normal from what I’ve read.
@@ElkCreekAcres Humm,just one regen!!! Not bad !!! Enjoy that 38 hp power!!!
Hey Pat! It’s Matt from work.
Hey Matt, welcome aboard.
Did you have any implements that the 2025R 3 piont hitch would not lift ? I know it has its limits but for my needs I believe the 2025R would do fine. I'm just concerned about the lift capacity of the 3 point hitch.
No I did not, it will lift 800+ lbs so that gives you a lot to play with.
@@ElkCreekAcres Do you believe it will lift a Woods 60 inch rear finish mower that weighs 653 lbs ?
Todd Creech it should easily lift that.
That’s actually we’re i got my tractor from. That’s NY right?
Yup, Cazenovia Equipment Co., mine is the Oneonta location.
Elk Creek Acres i got mine in Clinton
Would like to know you thoughts.....I was Looking at a 2025r for a replacement lawn mower so that a tiller could also be used. I have a larger loader tractor so lift limitations is not a factor for me. I have watched several of your videos and noticed that you did not get a mowing deck on the 2038r even though you had one on the 2025r. I was wondering if you felt the increase in size from the 1023e made mowing more difficult with the 2025r hence the option of passing it up on the 2038r. I have looked at the 2038r in depth and like you feel it is set up a tad better but I can not justify the cost of it since it's primary function would be only mowing the 6 or so acres. would like your insights since you have had all three
For me the 2025R was a great tractor, it mowed like a champ with the 60D MMM. I did not get the MMM on the 2038R for two reasons.
1. I felt that the tractor would be too big to comfortably mow our yard, not to mention the cost of the MMM command cut on this tractor, so I used the money to buy a smaller dedicated mower instead.
2. Reading tractor forums and groups the number one problem with the 2032/38R is the command cut itself, just didn't want to have issues, so I cut that part out of the equation.
Otherwise, the 2038R is a great tractor, but it is considerably larger than the 2025R. We simply outgrew the 2025R, it was a great tractor in every other way. Hope this helps.
@@ElkCreekAcres Thank You for the reply I can tell from the videos that you really enjoyed your 2025r. So it seems that cut quality is a wash so let me ask you. Was the additional 400 or so pounds ever a negative or the extra height getting in and or around things. any differences in raising and lowering the deck between the 1023 an 2025 and finally was tilling any better with the 2025r, I am down to the 1025r vs the 2025r for 4K more. Just trying to narrow it down since It will only be used for mowing and tilling. As of right now unless you have some sort of negative with those two applications I'm going to go with the larger 2025. Of course finding one will be a different matter. By the way should you find yourself down my way feel free to stop in. Coffee is on all morning
@@hilltopstablesindepositny9491 I also had a 1023, it is not in any of the videos since I didn't start my channel until I bought the 2025R. In pretty much every aspect the 2025R is a suped up 1025R. I always felt the stability, traction and ride were much better on the 2025R. It handled my tiller with ease, and I also used the same 5' rotary cutter that I still use on my 2038R. If it were my decision, having had a 1 series and the 2025R, I would buy the 2025R. It's difficult to justify the $4K price jump, but using it in field application is where you will justify the cost.
@@ElkCreekAcres That's what I thought. Thanks again I feel confident now on the choice. I'll try to get up there and get some taters from you unfortunately I am stilling working on 1st cutting hay just not enough sunshine days for me this year
@@hilltopstablesindepositny9491 anytime!!
We just finished first cutting a few weeks ago, but have all but given up on the theory of second. Potatoes will be ready in about a week.
I have a 1023E and looking to upgrade to a 2025R. After watching your video I’m starting to wonder if I should go to a 2032R. Thanks for the info.
I would say it depends on your needs. If you’re doing everything you need to with the 1 series but would like more ground clearance and slightly better hydraulics then the 2025 is a nice tractor. If maneuverability is not an issue then go for the 2032 and you’ll never regret it.
Thanks for the reply. I was at the dealer today looking at both of them. Keep up the great videos.
@@ElkCreekAcres How much difference in maneuverability especially between the 1025R (1023 same I assume) & 2025R, and then 2038R?
@@danielsharon524 There's quite a difference. It's all progression, the 1 series will turn on a dime compared to my 2038R and the 2025R fell right in between.
@@ElkCreekAcres Thx. Kinda what I figured. I know you had a 1023 so not a fair comparison but I'm debating whether the tradeoff in maneuverability of a 1025R vs. a 2025R is worth the minimal increases in comfort, features, capacities (loader esp. as I don't foresee needing the extra 3pt. cap. or ground clearance being an issue). I expect to be working mostly in small residential lots & a 1025R is probably perfect (as well as perfect for my own property) as much as I want a larger machine. Nice thing is the resale value good so I can always trade up if I find the need for a bigger machine or add a bigger machine if the work demands it.
Dose it have EGR valve? If so more frequent oil changes ,FYI. You more than likely do not have EGR engine too small hp. Just wanted to mention these few things, not intended in negative way on your JD 38hp tractor. Just real world past experience. Newer stuff may have been greatly improved . Thanks for the review!!
No EGR, but it does have a DPF with regeneration. I researched a lot before this purchase and from what I can tell JD has a very good handle on this new emissions stuff. Time will be the ultimate judge.
@@ElkCreekAcres You mean the YANMAR,engine??
@@gregb2144 Yes, sorry about that.
Yep it has an egr valve.
PCABE5 how you been, is this what it takes to bring on bosrd😁
Nice video Pat.
I like your video. I’m thinking of buying my first small tractor at age 73. I’m looking at the 1025R, 2025R and 2038R. I need to mow my lawn, around my small pond and other areas on my small farm. I rent out my land so I wouldn’t be using it for farming. I want a loader, belly mower and would love to have a backhoe. I don’t want to spend a ton of money but would like your recommendation so I could have what I need when I retire. Thanks for any suggestions you care to give. Keep doing the very informative videos.
You’re welcome, I try to be honest without being disrespectful.
@@ElkCreekAcres Do you think the 1025R is a decent match for my needs or too small?
@@davidstrickland5663 Yes I do, or maybe a 2025R, but from what you described I'd stay on that scale. I had a 1023E, then a 2025R and now the 2038R. I honestly liked both of my smaller tractors a lot, we just outgrew them for our use. I wish it were financially possible for me to still have the 1023E and the 2038R, IMO the 2038R a little big for doing stuff around the yard.
@@ElkCreekAcres thanks. A coworker has a 2032 he just bought and is encouraging me to get it. I’m going to look hard at the 2025R. I believe they it would be a better fit for my needs. Will I need weights for the back to use the loader? Would a box blade be enough?
Sorry for all the questions.
Did you install yours diy?
You definitely want the rear scv kit, the dealer put it on during pre-delivery. Congrats on your tractor!!
No, dealer install pre delivery.
Many times in my life I have wished for more power but never have I ever regretted having too much power
Haha, and that's the truth!!!