The Future of Firetrucks?
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- This week Jay is joined by the President of the Specialty Group, Mike Virnig, who brings with him, all the way from Florida, this shiny new, all-electric Firetruck! Jay and Mike spec this beast out, before taking it outside for a hose demo and a quick trip around the neighborhood. Are you ready for the future of first response? This bad boy is exactly it!
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At the end of this video, I found myself wishing they'd gone to a fire station and showed it to the men stationed there to get some live, unscripted reactions from the people who use that kind of vehicle.
They'd probably all be negative. With my sister and her husband being career (20+ year) firefighters, they and their co-workers tend to be a very cynical and sarcaastic lot that's not a fan of change. A lifetimes of putting your life on the line and seeing people at their worst probably doesn''t help.
All negative. Most of them HATE change. I love the service, dedication and valor that fire fighters provide, but many of them are dinosaurs.
They probably would care less as long as it works. It's not their personal car.
I actually test drove one of rosenbauers electric fire truck last year. Came back to work to tell all the guys I work with about it. Everything was completely dismissed, nothing but negative comments and pure ignorance
It would be all "GTFO". Literally every firefighter and EMT I know hates all electric vehicles with a passion.
I'm a welder at E-One and helped build the rear half of the body on this truck. Fun experience and even cooler to get to see it on here.
That's awesome, love the quality you produce. They send this overseas for electrification???
Very few presidents of vehicle manufacturing companies know their products so well, he's obviously involved with his engineers and designers as much as with clients, vendors, investors, etc, in order to understand the market and deliver what they need and want. Great team work, congrats !
So what you are saying is other snake oil salesman like him, lack Convincing description of there snake oil
@@phillipsmiley5930 So what you are saying is that you or another authorized person opted for paperless documents.
That federal Q should kill the battery before the end of the block.
Excellent
The market was 'created' by knowing municipalities run by woke liberals would spend taxpayers money on something twice the price of the existing model
Their pump supplier needs to work on those noise levels .. it's been hidden behind all those generations of diesels for 100 yrs. Great video for a change of pace. Thanks Jay.
I am wondering how much of that is artificial. The cabin is clearly mimicing a diesel. The E-One represtative is on the money about firefighters not liking change. My sister and brother in law are both career firefighters. They are not fans of anything changing,
@@stevevarholy2011 it is not mimicking a diseal it has a diesel engine this truck is way over hype it is simply a plug in Hybrid.
Obviously you've never been around heavy industrial machinery. Pumping that many GPM takes lots of energy.
@@redemptionjack4657 It's not a hybrid at all. The diesel engine isn't used for making the vehicle move.
I'm sorry we cone to your burning house we're charging the truck
Who's going to extinguish the EV Firetruck fire?
Nobody.
@@ColtonRMagby
Just let it burn? Lol
@@steveniksid5874 Lithium-ion battery fires MAKE oxygen, so putting them out is impossible.
@@ColtonRMagby Not impossible, but you need special chemicals to actually knock them down.
@@Blazer02LS And those chemicals are EXPENSIVE.
I swear I just love how legit of a car guy Jay truly is. This mans knows and at least mildly understands the ins and outs of every type of car in existence from gas and diesel, to steam, to electric, to even jet powered! I don't know how much he knows about hydrogen power but it wouldn't surprise me if he's hip to that too. Jay stays in the loop because he's actually interested and fascinated by automobiles old, new, and everything in between.
He is probably the greatest car guy to ever live
Even better is his approach to buying cars. He doesn't buy cars for clout or to get noticed. He buys cars because he likes them and especially if they have a good story. It's incredible how much he knows about every car in his collection, both the history and context of it and what makes his individual car unique.
Bots baby
He called the electric motor an engine... As a car guy he should know the difference
@@codycampbell1147 But it does have an engine, they explained it in the video, it has a diesel engine to keep the batteries charged during heavy operation. And there it was under the cab.
Hey Jay, I know you're under a lot of stress. You're a good man, take care of the love of your life.
Agree, he looks tired. His wife’s health must be a huge part of that…
@@sapple3946 I've noticed the same over the last few, including some leading up to the reveal of her diagnosis. This man is a legend, you can't NOT feel sadness for what they're going through.
Raking in that money to shill for crap EVs takes a toll
@@mipmipmipmipmippeople with your viewpoints are the problem, lol.
Either way, Jay Leno covers automotive history in a unique, first hand way. EV sales still rose last year and they’re officially part of the automotive landscape. Cheap shot, calling this “shilling”.
Jay asking some great questions, this thing is a beast. The older I get the more I appreciate insane engineering.
Jay HAS to finally give up on his horrible take on torque versus horsepower. Literally everything he has ever said is wrong. "Torque wins races". WRONG. "Torque is what you need for pumping". WRONG. POWER is the only measure that matters. I can put out 100 ft lbs of torqe on my bike, but that doesn't mean i can win a race with a small gas engine that puts out even 10 HP.
@@buffalobilly6046 Those words were said by both Enzo Ferrari and Carroll Shelby.
Furthermore if you make the numbers on either end lopsided enough you won't win in either case.
HP means fast speed, Torque means acceleration.
You're awfully cute but equally misguided
Yeah he asked really good questions like "is it lithium batteries?". No, they're nickel batteries obviously. And "is it heavier than the diesel truck or lighter?". Obviously without the engine it weight a lot less....
Good questions
@@amg863 Did I say every question was perfect, does every question need to be geared to the enthusiasts who already know?
go rub one out, you can't always be this miserable, can you? You might need help, double up on therapy.
@@Gamefreak8112
Actually both of you are confused about the science imho…
Imagine having a garage that you could drive this thing into and still have room for all those vintage cars all around you.
I love than Jay knows enough to ask so many intelligent questions.
17:12 "Still on the first wife probably" lmfaoooooo
Has anyone else noticed jay leno looks much older in this video?!? 😭😭😭 We love you jay!! Hope you do this show another 10 years !
Yup. Night and day from 3 months ago. 😔
Must have lost 100 pounds.
I was just thinking this first 30 seconds in... sounds different too
it's the Joe Biden effect
I think Jay is in his late 70s. He reminds me of my uncle. I wish that I were as active as he is.
The pump was way louder than I expected, probably should still have ear protection. Also Jay cracked me up calling it an ash tray fire. My garden hose puts out that amount of water. Kinda wish they showed it could send more, if it can....
The pump was WAY louder than I was expecting.
Yeah for like 9 PSI lol
I agree. Wonder how much louder it would be at a normal 150psi outlet pressure they normally run with several handlines in service?
@@BlazerRox😂my Kärcher does more more silent lol
The high pitch is awful. Imagine it full tilt.
@@ls60fd, and high frequency noise like that is quite hazardous to one's hearing!
Ah the fire service: “Two hundred year of tradition unimpeded by progress“
Always have and always will love fire engines / fire trucks ❤ thanks Jay❤
Cool one Jay, thanks. 😎👍😎
"Vector" brings back memories of the Vector supercar of the 80s and early 90s.
It does don’t it ?! And in 20+ yrs, there will likely be fewer of these EV pumpers around than there are the cars ! Yes ….. these things can be built, but they are never gonna fly !
Look how that turned out.😂
Jay should head up to Canada to interview Edison Motors. Edison is starting to produce diesel electric hybrid trucks with a similar drivetrain.
A big YES that's what I was thinking. The TWO young men really make an excellent big rig. The big thing with ( Edison) is that it made a big rig that doesn't need expensive parts, very simple design. And you can purchase say a headlight replacement at any auto part store. I love their dash, and the design of the front engine Hood.
The Edison drive train is much more similar to a diesel electric locomotive.
@@brianparramore1104 It's the same as this truck. Battery with a backup EG.
@@brianparramore1104
Absolutely Right 👍 the two guys talk about that in their public events
Yes, this
For a truck that is designed to pump water, you would think they would have shown a better example of its primary purpose.
But then everyone would see it's shortcomings........
Making the truck cruise to a fire situation is one thing. I'd like to know how many hours the pump can run at full bore ..... not so good, I imagine. Prove me wrong.
@@TheJimbob1603 He said it right in the video. Rated for continuous on scene pumping for around 4 hours. With the diesel engine running and recharging the main batteries, hours more. Did you watch the video?
I believe he says 4 hours in the video. @@TheJimbob1603
@@TheJimbob1603the truck has a diesel generator if it needs to pump for long periods of time.
Would've been nice to see it all lit up with the flashing lights and all. I also would've liked to see all the storage compartments, and equiptment on the thing.
Battery would’ve died
Well, I guess all that is as like a regular fire truck from LA as possible, so not likely anything new to see there. (Though I was actually thinking maybe those battery packs could do to be a bit higher off the ground, firetrucks have to go over curbs and stuff from time to time.
@@OllamhDrab You mean they have to rescue people in the real world, 24/7/365 under all conditions. such an unfair demand for that pretty toy, thats going to get people killed
@@rodonis88lights don’t use that much energy, you know that right
@@MrJimheeren you know what a joke is right?
Seeing Jay Leno driving a fire truck is super surreal
It's just a big box, about the size of my motorhome. It's not difficult to drive vehicles like this - you just have to watch for clearance around you.
Wow they really got some serious engineering images. It's pretty cool
Thanks Mr. Leno, as always a great video about a different vehicle. Something I love to see from time to time.
Jay asks really really good questions, and also credit to him for finding off the wall "non-enthusiast" stuff like this to show us, it's actually really interesting!
In the right situation, like a big city, this will work very well. Rural areas will still need diesel powered trucks, as the guest said. Different trucks for different jobs, just like the real world.
So you mean Rural Firefighters will have to lose local coverage when they have to donate their Diesel trucks to city areas to fight the fires their failed EV trucks should have. How ever you measure it EV Fire trucks mean more people will die. But it seems the new narrative is No Lives matter
even in cities they still need diesel too! imagine there isnt any electricity or the situation gets worse! the diesel can work for much longer and harder too.
@@carholic-sz3qv BAHAHA You just copy and pasted a script. You didn't even watch the video and ignored the facts of the vehicle. You are wrong.
I could take a leak further than that firehose.. didn't he say you could hardly hear the pumps when they are running? 😂😂😂😂
Yeah that was a pretty fail demonstration IMO
Never a dull moment on this channel, thanks Jay :-)
They are having a conversation inside a fire truck with no intercom headsets. Usually the noise is so loud they have to use them to talk to each other
So what?
@@jeffw8218This could enable better communication between firefighters for sure.
@@zlcoolboy When has inter-cab communication ever been a problem?
And how is that problem solved by a firetruck that is TWICE as expensive?
Headsets work just fine.
To be fair, there's usually a siren and radio noise, but yeah, an electric powertrain should be quieter.
@@jeffw8218 He's someone who would rather have fire fighters comfortable than actually get there, nuts!
Jay, you're awesome!! Period!
Jay, you're awesome, apostrophe!
Unlike your spelling.
Jay. youve been bought by big Corps
@@phillipsmiley5930 lol who hasn’t?
He’s the biggest c*
Having the big guy man the garden hose.
When they were discussing range, Jay pointed out that Fire Trucks just don't need to go very far. He said his antique Fire Truck only has 11,000 miles on it. But, with such low mileage, are exhaust emissions really an issue? Why do we need an overly complicated vehicle to fix a non problem?
EV are simpler, not more complex
No. Software glitch or emp and no truck. @@ngilman1
@@ngilman1 are they? The motor might be simpler but the electronics, computers, are complicated
@@ngilman1 EVs are NOT simpler when you include the entire infrastructure required to manufacture, maintain and fuel them. There are so many downsides to EVs that people try to gloss over and ignore.
@@CarlDraper In that case, should 747's utilize non-electronic componentry? Of course not.
I love how this illustrates perfectly how the hardest challenge of the engineer is making your design something people will use. Designing something to be the “perfect” thing in terms of the on-paper design doesn’t matter if no one wants to use it.
Hey Jay ... I want to see your 1955 Buick Roadmaster hotrod! Do a show on that please.
YES I love that thing!!! I wanna see!
I think theres a very old and short video about that one.
You can probably find it on My Classic Car with his old buddy Dennis Guage, he did many episodes with Jay
This was a great video.I'm going to have to watch it again and save it, It is amazing. How far technology has come that? An electric engine can now accomplish the things that it can Wow.🇺🇲🙂 0:08
Love it! Can't wait to get the privilege to work on one!
There are lots of EVs that need work, but few want to fix them
This is a great product! Well done!
You want people to die whilst waiting for it to charge
When the batteries explode the fire department will be there to put it out.
With dirt and buckets
for certain cities, it's a great thing. especially if it has the generator on it which i think they all should. low volume stations could probably do without the generator. and for the people saying what happens when the power goes out, emergency services have generators for their buildings, they don't lose power.
Not a generator it is a diesel engine call it what it is.
Thank you, Mr. Leno for another amazing car review. I love the technology🙏🏽
So cool to see, awesome Mike!
🏆Jay Leno 🏆 the king of 🍀 cars 👀✌️
🏆It's 🍀electrifying 😅✌️
"we consider our 0% to be 10%"
My Phone: I wish
My 1% lasts forever
of course they programmed it to not go under 10% for longevity, you can almost run the ICE till the tank is literaly empty.
Way to go! This is called Innovation. Well done!
Great video. Learned much. Fascinating and great to see new ideas.
So many times you refer to a comparable vehicle in your collection. This video stands out because it presents a photograph or short video of the comparable. Wonderful to see what you are talking about.
"100% electric!" Has a diesel engine under the cab 🤣 Great video, although i don't agree with electrifying everything..
And why not electrify everything? What's the down side?
Most things in life involve tradeoffs and compromises. There are not-goods about electric as well as gas. Believing progress and change is always better in all areas is more a matter of will than reality.
Hybrid for redundancy
Nope, this is a full on ev. It has a range extender. That is not hybrid. Hybrid implies the Driveline can be switched between fuel and electric drive. Far more complicated and expensive.
It's only used when you surpass the 4 hour Pumping run time. It's like you ignored the video. "i don't agree with electrifying" only because you are willfully ignorant.
ABSOLUTELY----> OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!. 🙂
Fascinating. CEO does indeed know his product and Leno is top of it.
So Jay will have to fill in with his oldtimer fire truck one day. Just like the Missouri had to in Battleship.
Very nice truck. From the negative comments below, some guys didn't watch the whole video or have attention problems 😅
The cure for attention problems is Yuri Bezmenov's lectures, and how democracies are easy targets for top down subversion
I drove this truck. We had it at our station in Sun Prairie WI.. It was pretty impressive. I was skeptical until I drove It.
Cool truck, Nice to have someone so knowledgeable on the truck as well. I would think also another use might be for use in disasters for mobile power with that much power on board i wonder if you can draw power from the batteries to power other things. That would be pretty cool.
I did have a thought that truck would make an amazing off road RV if you took the pump off and had a cabin on back, with all that power you could camp in the middle of a field for some time using power especially with the diesel generator also.
Jay sure has some excellent questions. Then goodness they sent a man who can answer them all correctly way to go
So you are saying pretty answers are more important than hard facts
You can Thank the Standard Oil Trust for making this technology new and exciting. Actually one hundred and ten years ago this electric vehicle technology was developed and cutting edge. The problem is making the vehicle self charging and answering the question of using batteries which are extremely expensive and hazardous or a self contained cold fusion generator that would be the best solution for this technology problem. E-One the Pride of Ocala Florida and Jay about 12 miles away from Golden Ocala where you hang out. Praying for You and Mavis that your love will always win in the end. I lost my wife 4 years in June. Great Video Thank You and God Bless 🙏
Oh, EVs were quite popular in the first quarter of the 20th Century. They were useful as "town cars" and as delivery vehicles. But when folks wanted to hit the open road, the "Edison Cells" just couldn't cut it. The electric starter (funny thing) dealt the death blow to the electric car.
I love the diversity on the Jay Leno channel, just amazing to watch no matter what I'm doing.
Excellent video and interesting as always. Hope we see something similar on the roads in Europe. Makes sense really, you can have solar panels on the fire station roof to help charge it, Ideal for airports as well. Very classic looking machine!
Jay: "(US fire trucks) much larger, just like the people themselves" - fire truck guy is *not* going there, crickets :)
That torque number is incredible.
But for how long? a Diesel can run for weeks if you kept fueled, which you can
if you take a fuel bowser to the engine
@phillipsmiley5930 if from what the guy said this would be about the same with range extender running.
@@brianbartlett7313 Do you realise EVs overheat if worked hard, one of the causes of EV fires. the new EV Buses around here have their AC running hard to keep the batteries and motor cool, Not the passengers, the cabin isnt cooled they rot in the heat
Why is is so difficult for liberals to understand the primary duty of an Emergency vehicle is to be both reliable and available at all times
it is actually not! thats the torque at the wheels, a scania 770s makes around similar torque just from the engine now imagine what the gearbox multiplies to the wheels!
Agreed that the torque number is insane by comparison…… but other than win at producing more staggering numbers than a conventional diesel powered truck, what benefit does higher torque numbers provide ? That it will do the quarter mile in one third of the time ? Well that’s fantastic until you try to STOP that 45 ton locomotive….. and since in most “City” environments, the average speed any may get up to is 50 mph, the torque it achieves takes a backseat to how fast that beast can be stopped ! I still say they may be great to have conversations about, but they will never become practical in the real world.
Great to see new and interesting videos coming from you Jay! 👏👏
Jay
Thanks for all your entertaining videos
Just watched yourself and Tom cotter and have to say we appreciate your time and efforts
3500ftlbs of torque is insane! Thats where the a/c motor really differentiates.
what do you think a big diesel motor makes?
@@Nyx_88888 wasnt it about 2000?
@@Nyx_88888 They said 1400...
Doesn't matter, that is what gear multiplication is for
@@allentoyokawa9068 Most people don't have a clue what torque multiplication even is.....
Good to know that we’re moving to a system where, if the grid is down, you’re just SOL. Brilliant
Well if the grid is down, you're not pumping diesel either.
People aren't smart enough to figure that out or how solar panels work @@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Never heard of the hand pump?
This truck has a range extender, basically a scaled down diesel-electric locomotive. It will keep running even in a blackout.
Did you even watch the video? It has a built in diesel generator.
The name reminded me of the Vector W2 and I'm glad it did. Different rabbit hole.
This is a fantastic fire truck... Thank you Jay..!!!
I hadn’t realized ‘noise’ was a major complaint about fires, thanks Jay
Absolutely. When on scene, the loud diesels make communications by voice alone nearly impossible.
Pardon? I couldn't hear you for the sound of screaming diesel engines.
Neeh nah nee nah...
@@aussie2uGA so headsets and radios will no longer be used?
@@aussie2uGA Indeed. My house is really well insulated normally I can't even hear the garbage truck, but when a firetruck was parked 3 houses it down it literally vibrated my entire house and woke me up.
Canada's first electric fire truck was in service less than a month before it needed repairs.
A Whole Month! i would have put money on it being less than a week before it got someone killed by not being available
As a technician, these things won't last long before the fireman cry that they wany the old diesel ones back that are actually useful and cheaper.
@@JohnTaylor-bd1uy It had problems with pump system LEAKING water . As if a diesel pumper has never had water leaking problems before. Stop with the horrible assumptions.
Glorious intentional omission of details there.
@@Neojhun Pump driven by diesel engine in ICE which has redundancy engineered. EV relies on single electric pump. Water and electricity not a good mix for trouble-free operation.
Just fascinating. Ive learned a lot
I understand Jay has never been a firefighter, so I get it it, but the big Boston Chelsea fire in the early 1900s had responders from as far as Baltimore, but mismatched hose couplings were a major issue. Even with the National Standard thread standard, not everyone uses it. It is not a required standard.
Fireman Jay puttin out those fires.🤣
Having an onboard diesel generator to make up for no diesel engine . . . Interesting
Thats one word, another is Criminal negligence. this BS is no accident.
Yuri Bezmenov warned you 40 years ago. Top down subversion, all thats changed
is the KGBs games has been taken over and refined by the WEF and their friends
with unlimited funding, see Bezmenov's lectures
"Zero emissions" virtue signaling.
Early days. The technology is maturing. The first steam ships also had sails.
@@55Bentley6 The first steam ships didnt kill anyone by not arriving
@55Bentley6 Early days? Electric vehicles have been around for over 100 years. They were inferior to ICE vehicles then and they still are today. People back then were smart enough to realize this & so the free market chose ICE vehicles over EVs. It's only now with Government mandates for EVs going into effect forcing them on people that companies are now trying to appease the Government by hastily "developing" these "new technologies". End the Government mandates and you'll see the EV fad disappear.
Great video Jay, love your work as always
I love how Jay is always all over the road
Bring me back to the 20th century!
This is fantastic, made even better by the amazing ignorance of these comments!
The comments are usually half the entertainment on YT.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH true … true!
“Ignorance of these comments”
Made by people who see how ignorant it is to have a EV fire truck that needs a diesel engine to charge its batteries 😂😂
A very interesting and informative episode.
A great explanation of fire truck operations I have not heard before!
This is what we need EV trucks for city use and services like firefighters, towing, garbage collection,.... Great video Jay ❤😊😊
Electricity and water, perfect match, "match" : )
Perfect match like Ike and Tina, Chris and Rhianna, OJ and Nicole
This is so cool, I would love to hear long term reviews of these in service!
I want the stats and reports. My bet it will be like Tesla Police cars. Surpass expectations.
😎Tank You.
A little fire truck humor.😉
Makes sense for it to be electric. Most trucks just sit around for days so it can charge all the time. Most trips are short. They need ambulances to be electric as well.
Yeah, maybe in a small town department
Are you on crack? Ambulances might go 18 hours straight without making it back to the station. I’ve literally had to stop for fuel on the way to calls because it isn’t hard to burn through your 200/300 mile range of a standard ambulance. A lot of services spec larger fuel tanks.
Jay has forgotten more than most of us will ever know, your historical references are priceless !
Jay, you look as comfortable in that huge firetruck as you look in one of your super cars.😎
I get they can't have "regular" pressure on the hose spraying demo, but think they should have gotten to an open area and had someone handling it that knows how. It was, shall we say, "underwhelming" as is. Impressive data points from the CEO- clearly he is deep into everything about this truck.
What's the price difference?
Double
@@numlockkilla but at a fraction of the operating cost, this thing will pay for itself quite quickly.
Until it needs battery replacement lmao this thing is a steaming pile
@@Lolwutfordawin Who do they call when it catches on fire?
@@Lolwutfordawinso a coal powered truck with a battery made from minerals mined by children is a good thing……you are a mindless sheep
Amazing piece of engineering!
This is super cool......
11:16 same kinda thing with Air Traffic Controllers and their RADAR. The STARS system is capable of real time continuous RADAR displays but Air Traffic Controllers wanted the old RADAR sweep line. So the system was set up with a sweep that only updates the screen when the sweep passes instead of being real time.
These will be great for travelling all over California in fire season.
Behind Diesel recovery trucks
@@phillipsmiley5930 Nah, they keep their diesel on board 🙂
Waiting at the tesla superchargers while the rest of the strike teams keeps going
"Imagine a 45,000 pound Tesla"... isn't that what they weigh already?
They cost more 🤔
@@verttikoo2052”pounds” short hand speak for the Imperial standard of weight measuring.
Not in reference to British Pounds the currency of the United Kingdom and Dominion. Even though both stem from the gold calculating system created by the London Bank
Hopefully this truck doesn't have autopilot
Thank you for making this content by the way.
23:40 I was a firefighter (engineer) for 9 years and this this still sounds loud with the pump engaged. Granted its quieter than a diesel overall but I was only expecting to hear a low whine.
Still a cool idea and i'm excited for the future.
As someone who actually works in the fire service unlike a lot of these commenters, I'm excited for the future of these trucks. Electric is extremely promising from a health standpoint (no fume exposure and low noise for firefighters), maintenance (smaller low hour use diesel generators OR no engines at all depending on your configuration), and no need for storing fuel onsite any more (tons of headaches for departments from a facility standpoint).
That being said, they aren't without their issues as the manufacturers work out the kinks in their processes - I believe LAFD and Vancouver Rosenbauers had tank leaking issues which had to be fixed. Of course all four of our brand new Pierce diesels that we've ordered had to be sent backs for MONTHS of work 💀 so I'm going to take those stories ('unreliable had to be sent back!') with a grain of salt and wait on some actual use reports from these departments before we can make a full determination on whether or not they are actually living up the their potential cost savings.
The good news is that if use times and low charge prove to be an issue in their deployment in busy stations, they can still serve a purpose in low run stations that run 4 medical calls a day hehe. Excited for this episode for sure!
Does a person have to be a fire fighter to know not to stick their hand in a fire ? Or even extinguish a fire ? It is a non viable joke from an engineering perspective . Vancouver BC has 7 of them out of commission . Exciting eh ?
I'm sure some ambulance drivers thought the same until they were give EV ambulances.
many call outs around here had to cancelled leading to deaths because the ambulances were on charge or had broken down
@@rdhudon7469based on your own line of reasoning of "if it's out of commission it's worthless" our diesels we've ordered that are supposedly 'reliable old tech' should be thrown out as well. Again, I will wait until the reports start coming out regarding repair downtime and use case effectiveness for these vehicles. They are brand new and as such new tech has manufacturing issues especially with such a complicated demand system. Your entire comment history is you ripping on electric vehicles - try not to be the person who is still riding around with a horse and buggy while everyone else is leaving you behind with cars. Have an open mind - the benefits are many should departments start making the switch
@@phillipsmiley5930not the best use case for EVs unfortunately. Transport times are extremely unpredictable and variable and charging times are non-existent. Maybe with a quick battery swap technology available but now you are taking about millions of dollars in infrastructure changes to make it work which defeats the purpose of saving money
Worrying about diesel fumes while fighting a house fire is beyond smooth brain thinking
Jay needs to get with Edison Motors and show the other technologies being developed around electric...
Seconding this. He'll love the heavy duty practical design.
Great video Jay❤
This is a solution in search of a problem.
Not really. EVs are perfect for short haul urban use, which is what this truck will spend its life doing. Minimal noise, no emissions. Ever been on scene at a fire with 4 giant diesel trucks running? You can't hear yourself think, not to mention the pollution.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Having spent 30 years in the fire service in an urban / suburban area, I can tell you with certainty that this is a suboptimal approach to fire apparatus. Here in Southern CA in particular, we are all part of a large mutual aid system that extends well beyond Los Angeles County. I have had engine companies from my organization as far as the Oregon border for weeks. The over-simple answer is, “Well we’d just not use this type of rig for that kind of duty.” Not feasible. Spend 2x the money for 1/2 the capability? I don’t think so. And, I don’t think I’ve seen a new pumper w/ only a 1500 gpm pump in it in the past 30 years. All are 2,000 gpm or greater. I also question the idea that there’s any significant “dent” in total vehicle emissions based on the number of fire apparatus compared to all other vehicle types, and the gross emissions based on actual hobbs hours. Fire service vehicle types such as ambulances, paramedic vehicles, staff vehicles, etc. are good candidates for EV tech. And their total milage every year far exceeds engine and truck companies.
Nope This is a narrative in search of a problem, Yuri Bezmenov warned you 40 years ago
top down subversion, see his lectures
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Are you allowed to tie your own shoe laces on your own?
I wouldn’t call that electric pump motor quite. The high pitched whine would drive me up the wall in a hurry. I still think that fire trucks should have basic mechanical devices that will work under any circumstances, like after a hurricane or tornado, or even in a war zone. Huge respect to Jay, that guy is brilliant.
So I guess you missed the part about the regenerative brakes and the onboard diesel generator to charge the batteries faster than the output?
@@markmed9091 No I didn’t, wise guy, but that wouldn’t be practical to rely on for days or weeks.
@@rjsmith6698 The trucks don't constantly operate for days. The departments know the average number of calls and demand.
@@stevevarholy2011exactly on call dammads gas is more reliable hence diesel engine onboard.
They would in the type of scenarios I just described.
Now a steam powered fire truck!🧐👍
Oil Fired steam turbine ships revolutionized warships
Steam powered would make more sense than this thing. At least you can utilize the onboard water to make steam with.
@@phillipsmiley5930that’s still largely the standard. What’s your point?
That’s amazing! Would love to see more, it will be expensive change. But imagine, those electric cars or trucks rather, are promising.
Very cool Jay!