Why did they change her fighting style so much in the new volumes? She used to have such a distinct fighting style - kind of like a fusion between fencing, ice skating, and she just exuded elegance and grace. It embodied her character and personality so well; wanting to show other she can hold her own and can fight good - usually only using her semblance and dust to make it easier for her or others to fight. But now she practically only uses her rapier as a magic wand to summons things whilst just standing there..
My favorite fight is her dancing around a fucking chainsaw. Like, dude, that is so damn badass and she would've won if her time dilation didn't fuck up.
She went from a magical rapier mage that had access to all the elements into a elden ring scrub trying to summon her ash of war no matter what's happening
She was losing those fights though.... Only Yang and Blake have great hand to hand combat skills and great defensive fighters. Ruby and Weiss are great offensively but in trouble if you get close to them.
@@liqqidsurgegaming2970 Her elegant movements fit her much better imo. I don't mind that they're pushing her to be a dustslinger type character now but where did here graceful, dance-like evasion moves go?
@@rao668 but none of the others actually lost any type of abilities. They still fight the same. If anything, everyone isn’t as flashy when it comes to fighting since Monty passed (which was okay) - but to completely forget a characters abilities and potential all of a sudden doesn’t make any sense. They just dropped her “magic”
@@montyl.8232 Weiss only ever used time dilation two times, both in Volume 2, only one of which was on herself. It's not like it was a staple of her character even during the Monty era. Also, Ruby lost the ability to hit people with her scythe.
I like her early fighting style. It’s like she’s dancing with her opponent, like a ballet routine. It’s very graceful and elegant. In any action series, developing a character’s fighting style is important, it speaks to said character’s personality.
Well I've got to admit that Weiss is the most versatile out of all 4 girls and was actually pretty good on holding her own with Cinder WITHOUT semblance AND aura, along with her and Blake's weapon
Weiss's fighting style is probably my favorite out of Team RWBY for its sheer elegance and versatility. Too bad she tends to use Myrtenaster exclusively as a pointy metal wand these days.
Or obsess over summing even when her enemy is five inches Infront of her and it takes her a good minuet to pop out out. Yeah or girl got robed, she used to use her rapier as well a rapier. I get her using as a wand in fights like the queen lancer one but in fights like her one angest the spring madden it made little to no sense as she was dealing with close corters and surprise and surprise a rapiers fighting style is close corters.
@@mst201 I'm... not sure you understand what a choreographer actually is. Obviously they still have someone doing the choreography, nothing would be getting *done* otherwise.
@@xxxSpaceOwlxxx wasn't her "dumbassery" in that fight intentional? That's why she was having all those summoning lessons with Winter in V7. So that she can better weave her summons in combat. Her summon-aided victory against Marrow was the product of that. She emerged victorious without having to put in close range with her enemy and risk getting hit (and we all know Weiss is too much of a glass cannon to take a hit, her glyphs drain her aura fast)
I actually don’t mind at all that Weiss uses her summons a bit more than her rapier alone, but that fight with Vernal when she keeps persistently trying to summon despite clearly not having the time for it is so frustrating. She’s shown multiple times that if she stays still to summon, Vernal is going to hit her, and she keeps doing it.
The summons are awesome and IS an upgrade. BUT losing all her versatility, agility, and rapier fighting style in the process downgrades her. She would only work if she kept both. Summons attacking while she's also attacking with the rapier. Combining both. But I think we can all agree that non of the animators have the knowledge to execute that well.
@@dragosanders4234 she did know she didn't have time, like when she put up a walla ND then tried to summon, but didn't know Vernal could cut through it like butter.
Well duh, that was on purpose to show Weiss and the audience that she couldn't just lean exclusively on her newly mastered skill as an instant win button. She got smarter about using her summons in conjunction with Glyphs from then on.
I’m starting to realize that Weiss has trouble taking critique because of her father. She correlates correction with condescension. And that is why her technique and fighting with my myrtenaster has remained stagnant. Other than winter, she hasn’t really let anyone teach her. she has a trouble with relying on others and trusting orders. But that ends up being exactly what she needs, a team and structure. She has sort of leaned more into summoning to turn the tides of a 1v1 into a “team” fight.
Ikr. Literally watching the vol5 character shorts after watching their consecutive RWBY trailers pre volume 1 makes the downgrade in choreo quality so obnoxiously obvious
I dont understand how so many characters got some REALLY COOL choreo back in volumes 7 and 8 but Weiss is still stuck with being subjected to slow and clunky summons. She's always been about speed, to a more prevelant extent than even Ruby. Praying for v9 she gets her stule back
The first time she won a 1v1 is against marrow in Volume 7, but that was because marrow wasn't serious about fighting her,she probably would have lost again if marrow was as serious as Harriet
She has an excellent support for her team, but I think she is just Bad aigainst other Huntsman. Like she lost aigainst a random Black Fang in Volume 2... She's quite good aigainst Grimm tho
It's also sad that she completely forgot how she used to fight and just almost exclusively uses summons now. Even her rapier is more of a wand at this point LOL
@@aeon8448 True though her role in the team is support so all she must do is summon things or glyphs like she was doing in the nevermore fight back in the volume 1 WITHOUT forgetting to use rapier in close ranges or in the 1v1 situations but yeah she just summons now instead of FIGHTING WITH THE RAPIER like IN HER GODDAMN TRAILER OR CHARACTER SHORT
Are we ever seeing that ultimate kill move from Weiss ever again? The one where all the dust mixes and her weapon glows? Seems like she could've used that a couple of times now
can't believe that it took that moment at 30:09 for me to realize that the glyph abilities Winter and Weiss have are sourced from their mother/mother's side
@@tristancummings5925 I think it's because it's hereditary and Jacques isn't born a Schnee (and Whitley isn't a fighter, but he would probably have the same abilities)
This was uploaded just when I was looking for this compilation! The switch from Volume 3's animation engine to Volume 5's is super drastic here. Although many improvements were made in the general appearance of the show, it's a such a shame that Weiss' fighting style changed as the series went on so her fights no longer have that flair of dancing to them, and that's assuming she's actually using her sword as a blade and not a wand.
Vol 1-3: Weiss has incredible fencing style fight but sadly she just keep losing in one on one. Vol 4-5: pure disgrace for how RT just have ruining her like that. Vol6: was just Okay I’m kinda glad, but didn’t have much screen time on solo battle. Vol 7-8: they Improved parts of Weiss finally giving her an appreciation’s, but most of all they actually gives her victory on 1v1 even if Marrow was slightly holding back.
The Schnee family have the most OP semblance. When we get season 9 I hope we can be introduced to more bloodlines that have a distinctive semblance shared only to them.
@sydorovich2532 Very true. I've always thought the Schnee family semblance was next level compared to literally anybody else in the show. And the sad part is, we probably don't even know the limits.
It really was. Sadly she’s just a mage now, but I at least wish they’d bring back time dilation. I think that was the last time she used it and it was like 6 volumes ago lol
@@HalosurferWeiss was always the red mage, it's just that she's often been pitted against opponents she either can't go up close against or who outclass her. That, and she's refined her more long-range, supportive abilities once she got back together with the team. That, and she's also still figuring out how to harmonize all the various abilities she has.
Despite what everyone says about Weiss being weaker than she used to be (and I agree to some extent), I still think she held her own against Cinder better than Pyrrha did.
We can honestly only hope that volume 9 decides to give Weiss some better fight choreographies , ones that lets her balance her style / return to a non summoner - focused style . She held good against winter though & that's cool as fuck -
She's literally my favorite character, and I always forget how absolutely broken she is as a combat support in the first couple of volumes. Is there anybody who clutches out as hard as Weiss does? It's a shame she's practically defenseless in the later volumes. Also: Whitley deleting his browser history... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the weiss and marrow fight is probably my favorite of weiss' fights honestly, she uses her dust and semblance pretty creatively (like recreating freezerburn from volume 2 with her own use of ice and fire), plus a return of her flying around with her glyphs to put in some super fast strikes. Plus the use of her ice and wind where marrow starts climbing over them, the use of her summon to make it so marrow couldn't effectively use his semblance on her, and just overall i love it. I'm also going to be controversial and say I like the lancer fight, it shows how her training with her dust and semblance during volume 4 helped improve her ranged attacks, plus we finally see her summon in full action during a fight. The moment where she summons it while this life is mine plays always gets me hyped, the way the sword gets summoned with that flourish, the way she baits the lancer with what seems like a straight dive only for her to have it basically teleport around it with a ton of slashes (similar to that move weiss does of bouncing around with her glyphs), and how they both disintigrate at the end is just great to me. Though I might be a little biased since This Life Is Mine is one of my favorite RWBY songs, if not my absolute favorite. I wish we got to see her nevermore though in V8, but I'm guessing its supposed to be a similar situation to her just summoning the arma gigas arm in volume 3.
I am a die hard Weiss stan. Her fighting style, personality, and growth really resonate with me. Yeah that’s a top tier character right there, she’s my girl fr. *I will not be acknowledging anything after Volume 4*
you can gradually see how they become weaker and weaker after every chapter and it just pisses me off how disrespectful it is. Like, weiss literally took on dozens of soldiers on her own moving at blinding speed, but when its a 1v1 match, my gosh, whered her braincells go?
That's not it at all. The real problem is that Monty prioritized spectacle over narrative cohesiveness or actual power scaling of his fights. It has the effect of making everyone look way more badass than they probably were and making relative power ranking almost impossible.
@@MrGksarathyi’m a bit late but you can’t lie when i say that there has been a drastic change in the way they did weiss’ fight scenes . she was very up close and personal but ever since she unlocked summoning they turned her sword into a wand and she almost never uses her rapier as intended even with the vernal fight she tried summoning twice without immobilizing her
@@cryptiq2750 That specific fight was meant to highlight that she was still figuring out how to incorporate her shiny new skill into her arsenal, and she was explicitly over relying on it. Otherwise, as I said before, it's mostly fight choreography and Monty's initial reliance on Rule of Cool that explains the perceived difference.
It’s such a shame she doesn’t combine abilities more often. Imagine speeding up time on the knight. She could use her glyphs as a rail gun for her elemental attacks. She can hold down an enemy while she creates a line of glyphs to speed up her knight. If she doesn’t have time for a full summon, she can just dash around with the sword hand of the knight. She can use these glyphs from pretty far away, so she could just avoid a fight entirely by keeping hidden while using all her focus on enhancing her summon. Then there’s the hypotheticals. If the glyphs are truly flat, can they be used as blades if positioned sideways. Can she summon just the arms of a summon quickly or sneakily enough to hold someone in place, and would it be better than the restraining glyphs? Does the time glyph speed up her summoning time? We know she can make her summons small, but can she summon a swarm of them if she does this? And there’s so many more options.
Considering Rooster teeth took a 3 year hiatus to work on the newest volume slated to come out early 2023, I'm kind of hoping they've improved the fighting. It feels like they made a big quality jump but didn't take the time to actually learn it in order to incorporate the things they did in the first 2/3 seasons battle wise (idk if it's just me but after the switch the battle felt less exciting due to a lack of, for a lack of better term, flashy-ness the first couple fo seasons had). I'm also hoping they can give the characters who need character development the development they need, especially those who are stuck and lost in this new dimension/world/universe(?) a lot of our character are gonna be in (such as Weiss, Ruby, and Jaune).
It only took so long for V9 because the RWBY team was working on that Young Justice crossover. Also yeah the new fights lack flashiness, good chereography, and honestly other than Yang the characters look like they barely know how to use their weapons.
This series really died with Monty Oum. I never liked anime as such, but the way he animated these girls (and Weiss specifically) was absolutely unprecedentedly beautiful. So intricate, so stylish and so fierce. Seeing all the fights past V3 just reminds of how sad it truly is that we'll never get to see more from him.
I know a lot of people dislike Weiss's new fighting style but I personally think it shows some growth. Weiss was always a glass canon, she knew she has to strike fast and hard to win a fight and you can see that in her firsts fights where she would abuse her glyphs in order to not let her opponents respond. Which actually further drains her aura. She slowly started to add more support moves with dusts and her glyphs providing utility for her team. And by the newer volumes where she uses her semblance, and dust knowledge to its fullest potential instead of striking head first. Imo that's showing some growth on weiss's part
Yeah, totally agree. While her duelist style in the earlier volumes was cool, it didn't do her much good against all but the weakest opponents and put her in unnecessary danger. She's now playing more to her strengths, and over time, has learned to integrate summoning into her generally team-oriented, long-range fighting style. She can still take the fight up close, but her opponents over the volumes have made that less and less of a good idea.
Many many years later I just realized that she loses against the chainsaw guy because she haven't mastered her time dilatation glyph as said later to Winter. Time seems to slow for her when she's about to land the coup de grace then chainsaw man just grab her ko.
Everyone here's just mindlessly bashing Weiss's changes in fighting style from Volume 4 onwards, but no, Weiss never lost her sense of grace and style, even if she didn't get as up close and personal with her rapier as she did prior. Sure, it looks different due to lack of Monty and the change in animation software, but it also reflects her attempts to incorporate new skills into her fighting style. I especially like her journey with summoning. First, she struggles with it, then once she gets the hang of it, she starts to overrely on it to the point of struggling against Vernal more than she had to, and then by Volumes 7 and 8, she has started to synthesize the two fighting styles, and now in Volume 9, she has come full circle.
Thank you! I was searching for a comment like yours. Plus it really ignores how Weiss was not doing great as just a pure swordswoman; like sure it may have looked “nicer” (which is an opinion) but it was definitely not as effective bc unlike Blake she wasn’t able to use it in conjunction with her semblance as well fighting style wise. Really her rapier works best when she uses it with Dust, so I could understand the complaints more if they were about her limited Dust usage compared to the trailer.
As someone who doesn't know anything about RWBY. I can noticeably see the change in her fighting style, a complete downgrade and dependence on summons. She can't hold her own anymore. Why?
my guess is that in her character, she gets very childish at times. like many children, as soon as they learn of a new trick, they can’t help themselves into doing it over and over, but it’s been so long and she has to be over it by now
I do like Weiss' fighting style in Volumes 1-3. But then it got nerfed really bad like she was not that kind of Fighter anymore. She lost that elegance, grace and unique fighting style she got, like it was out of form or not hers. Blake's fighting style, too. She was really agile that she can't be seen that much. But then, now she can't even do it now like she became rusty all of a sudden.After not being a White Fang, she became weak like a lot. Doesn't even use her agileness anymore. Ruby, has improved a bit which is good but in Leadership and how she can utilize her speed to be an advantage to looking up to her teammates. Yang's improvement only involves in using her Semblance in the most important occassions than doing it entirely all the time.
Man, what really bugs me about RWBY now is that in the earlier seasons, we see the girls fight multiple grim and enemies like it's nothing, but in later seasons, one normal sized grim and they're getting their teeth kicked in.
I think the earlier volumes are actually the problem. Cool as they are, the fights had absolutely no sense of grounding in the narrative or actual power levels, and they were all spectacle. In later volumes, this has changed, and honestly, while it sucks when we've been trained on the earlier volumes, it's actually better this way.
I understand Weiss is meant to be elegant and strong but I feel like there’s too much elegance and femininity to her fighting style now. I liked it before where her style was a bit more rough. It might be shown in the story as development as she trains but I still find it more satisfying to watch before
she lost her elegance, she's now just reliant on crappy summoning and doesnt do much. She'd be so much better if she could be fighting with her blade like in the trailer, while also fighting with her summons, but i think theres just no animators that have the skills to do that
@@MrGksarathy it's more like they try to make it that way, but I've only seen her LITERALLY STAND STILL while casting and letting her summon do all the work.
@@janbertguerrero6988 Weiss is quite mobile when using her Glyphs and still skates around the battlefield. With summoning, yeah she has to stay still when actually casting because even Winter has to do so, but even then, she is gradually learning how to integrate summons into her more fluid fighting style from before. Also, she only primarily relies on her summons for a few fights in Volume 5. Otherwise, she has mostly used glyphs and long range dust attacks to help herself and her teammates, and the Summons are used for the finishing blow on particularly big or tough opponents. Besides, red mages are cool as shit bro.
I’m going to complain about a fighting style change while ignoring the volume 5 trailer and the circumstances of the fights. Obviously she should just dash at marrow, what can he do? Should’ve just tried to stab the bee by jumping off of glyphs.
You know, I’m definitely on team let Weiss sword fight again, but at the same time, homegirl is way more powerful than her teammates by a freaking long shot, maybe they nerfed her into support main so they’d have a reason for them to lose some fights.
Sha has such great fighting styles. All of her styles are beautiful and elegance too. Then, something happens and all of her styles are changing too. They should bring back Weiss in Volume 1 - 3.
just gonna mention this cuz i think it needs mentioning but arma gigas is so strong that with only ONE arm summoned it chopped a paladin in half now this might not seem that impressive but keep in mind team rwby (all 4 members) took a fair amount of effort to destroy a prototype of a paladin in v2 now is this strength currently represented in the show correctly? not really but just wanted to mention it
I’m hoping in the future they fuse her fighting styles because just think her dancing and slicing her enemies while her knight defends her or would that be too OP?
For me Weiss is surely the most POWERFUL Yang is the STRONGEST Ruby is the most INTELLIGENT and still growing Blake is all of them EQUALLY cause she knows how to use her semblance well her hand to hand combat is good too and her Battle IQ and thinking is great She's all of them but in an average way. But it doesn't mean she's the number one of them 4
Im just kind of sad they didn't utilize most of her abilities in the later seasons, like I wanted to see time dialation and that white thing she did with her sword as a final blow in her trailer. They kinda did her dirty tbh. Like where did the old Weiss go???
I understand the complaints about her fighting style now and I miss the way she moved in Volume 1-3, but watching this, I don't see a lot of enemies (except Vernal and Marrow) where it would be wise to fight in duel. You can't do that against Cinder, or the Grimm in the Schnee manor, or Cordovin inside a giant robot, or the lancers in Volume 5. And yes, she fought Arma Gigas, but it's a Grimm, less stronger that the Hound (ironically beaten by the knight), not a robot, not a human. It's kind of normal that Winter trained her summoning but it would have been cool to see them duel.
I wish they made her outfits more elegant but combat ready in the later volumes. Like to me personally it didn't make sense for her hair to seem to top heavy and wearing clothes that look very restricted for movement. She was suppose to be more like a figure skater from what I've seen, but they just ruined it and made her look like a slow mage that can't move. Also like I just don't understand the need for the hair change when they reached atlas . It just dissapoints me since she is my favorite character, and I know she can do so much more then just rely on summoning. Don't get me wrong though, it cool to see her summon, but when it is at the cost of her not being able to fight regulary it just not it for me.
Me with same feeling. Weiss I used to know, was an elegant but had a strong temperament. Present Weiss such a princess has been tamed and relies so much on summoning that she forgets about the other great skills she has. I love Monty, I know he's a genius, but c'mon, is there no one else on this earth who understands her combat style?
Why did they change her fighting style so much in the new volumes? She used to have such a distinct fighting style - kind of like a fusion between fencing, ice skating, and she just exuded elegance and grace. It embodied her character and personality so well; wanting to show other she can hold her own and can fight good - usually only using her semblance and dust to make it easier for her or others to fight. But now she practically only uses her rapier as a magic wand to summons things whilst just standing there..
The choreography and design in earlier volumes were vastly done by Monty Oum; the series kinda lost its soul after he passed away
Lazy animators perhaps?
My favorite fight is her dancing around a fucking chainsaw. Like, dude, that is so damn badass and she would've won if her time dilation didn't fuck up.
She went from a magical rapier mage that had access to all the elements into a elden ring scrub trying to summon her ash of war no matter what's happening
She was losing those fights though.... Only Yang and Blake have great hand to hand combat skills and great defensive fighters. Ruby and Weiss are great offensively but in trouble if you get close to them.
*V1 to V3:* Rapier user.
*V4 to V8:* Mage summoner.
Actually if you look closer Weiss actually does use her rapier.
@@josephsuh5204 The thing is, we shouldn't have to look closer. It was integral to her fighting style and has fell second to her summoning.
@@tyren1854 at least she wins fights now. Her style now fits her.
@@liqqidsurgegaming2970 Her elegant movements fit her much better imo. I don't mind that they're pushing her to be a dustslinger type character now but where did here graceful, dance-like evasion moves go?
Ash of war spammer
Rooster Teeth REALLY REALLY NEEDS to bring back Weiss’ time dilation. It’s like they nerfed her after Monty Oum passed.
I mean isnt everyone got nerfed after Monty passed?
@@rao668 but none of the others actually lost any type of abilities. They still fight the same. If anything, everyone isn’t as flashy when it comes to fighting since Monty passed (which was okay) - but to completely forget a characters abilities and potential all of a sudden doesn’t make any sense. They just dropped her “magic”
Right? They seem to forget about her glyphs most of the time and rely way too much on her summoning
Ngl, I 100% agree. I just don’t think it can possibly be used offensively.
@@montyl.8232 Weiss only ever used time dilation two times, both in Volume 2, only one of which was on herself. It's not like it was a staple of her character even during the Monty era. Also, Ruby lost the ability to hit people with her scythe.
I like her early fighting style. It’s like she’s dancing with her opponent, like a ballet routine. It’s very graceful and elegant.
In any action series, developing a character’s fighting style is important, it speaks to said character’s personality.
I miss when she would fight like an ice skater, so elegant and beautiful.
She still, does, just more at a range and with way less time spent up close, which honestly is to her benefit. She has the endurance of a paper bag.
@@janbertguerrero6988totally
Well I've got to admit that Weiss is the most versatile out of all 4 girls and was actually pretty good on holding her own with Cinder WITHOUT semblance AND aura, along with her and Blake's weapon
Dumb Cinder didn't use her Maiden powers to overpower it. Or Weiss would be toasted.
@@kingraplhmativo5178 that is called plot armor
@@elpepo0Or just Cinder being herself. Not everything is plot armor.
True
Miss the old days... Her fighting style used to be so elegant.
yup
Weiss's fighting style is probably my favorite out of Team RWBY for its sheer elegance and versatility.
Too bad she tends to use Myrtenaster exclusively as a pointy metal wand these days.
Could've done something better. The choreographers need more balance instead of waving her weapon.
@@NelsonWin not even sure that rooster teeth has a choreographer since monty passed tbh. if monty's level was 100 the current RWBY is like 30% at best
Or obsess over summing even when her enemy is five inches Infront of her and it takes her a good minuet to pop out out. Yeah or girl got robed, she used to use her rapier as well a rapier. I get her using as a wand in fights like the queen lancer one but in fights like her one angest the spring madden it made little to no sense as she was dealing with close corters and surprise and surprise a rapiers fighting style is close corters.
@@mst201 I'm... not sure you understand what a choreographer actually is. Obviously they still have someone doing the choreography, nothing would be getting *done* otherwise.
@@xxxSpaceOwlxxx wasn't her "dumbassery" in that fight intentional? That's why she was having all those summoning lessons with Winter in V7. So that she can better weave her summons in combat. Her summon-aided victory against Marrow was the product of that. She emerged victorious without having to put in close range with her enemy and risk getting hit (and we all know Weiss is too much of a glass cannon to take a hit, her glyphs drain her aura fast)
I actually don’t mind at all that Weiss uses her summons a bit more than her rapier alone, but that fight with Vernal when she keeps persistently trying to summon despite clearly not having the time for it is so frustrating. She’s shown multiple times that if she stays still to summon, Vernal is going to hit her, and she keeps doing it.
The summons are awesome and IS an upgrade. BUT losing all her versatility, agility, and rapier fighting style in the process downgrades her. She would only work if she kept both. Summons attacking while she's also attacking with the rapier. Combining both. But I think we can all agree that non of the animators have the knowledge to execute that well.
Honestly she should have tried to freeze vernal then try to summon
@@dragosanders4234 she did know she didn't have time, like when she put up a walla ND then tried to summon, but didn't know Vernal could cut through it like butter.
@Tristan Cummings Again to freeze vernal herself not make a ice wall thinking vernal couldn't have broke through it
Well duh, that was on purpose to show Weiss and the audience that she couldn't just lean exclusively on her newly mastered skill as an instant win button. She got smarter about using her summons in conjunction with Glyphs from then on.
I’m starting to realize that Weiss has trouble taking critique because of her father. She correlates correction with condescension. And that is why her technique and fighting with my myrtenaster has remained stagnant. Other than winter, she hasn’t really let anyone teach her. she has a trouble with relying on others and trusting orders. But that ends up being exactly what she needs, a team and structure. She has sort of leaned more into summoning to turn the tides of a 1v1 into a “team” fight.
It's so sad how easy it is to spot the difference in choreography, like WHAT is that training session with Winter vs literally any Volume 1-3 fight ☠️
crazy how the fight in the volume 5 TRAILER is probably Weiss’ best fight after Volume 3 😔
Ikr. Literally watching the vol5 character shorts after watching their consecutive RWBY trailers pre volume 1 makes the downgrade in choreo quality so obnoxiously obvious
I dont understand how so many characters got some REALLY COOL choreo back in volumes 7 and 8 but Weiss is still stuck with being subjected to slow and clunky summons. She's always been about speed, to a more prevelant extent than even Ruby. Praying for v9 she gets her stule back
It's sad to know that being the most powerful of the team RWBY Weiss also can't win almost every single fight she participate in
The first time she won a 1v1 is against marrow in Volume 7, but that was because marrow wasn't serious about fighting her,she probably would have lost again if marrow was as serious as Harriet
@@jejomarpedraza1877 true
She has an excellent support for her team, but I think she is just Bad aigainst other Huntsman. Like she lost aigainst a random Black Fang in Volume 2... She's quite good aigainst Grimm tho
It's also sad that she completely forgot how she used to fight and just almost exclusively uses summons now. Even her rapier is more of a wand at this point LOL
@@aeon8448 True though her role in the team is support so all she must do is summon things or glyphs like she was doing in the nevermore fight back in the volume 1 WITHOUT forgetting to use rapier in close ranges or in the 1v1 situations but yeah she just summons now instead of FIGHTING WITH THE RAPIER like IN HER GODDAMN TRAILER OR CHARACTER SHORT
Are we ever seeing that ultimate kill move from Weiss ever again? The one where all the dust mixes and her weapon glows? Seems like she could've used that a couple of times now
Bruh for real that was her coolest move and she just…….. forgot about it?
can't believe that it took that moment at 30:09 for me to realize that the glyph abilities Winter and Weiss have are sourced from their mother/mother's side
Well, considering the male part of the Schnee family don't get semblances(or at least nothing we've seen yet) it should have been clear cut.
@@tristancummings5925 I think it's because it's hereditary and Jacques isn't born a Schnee (and Whitley isn't a fighter, but he would probably have the same abilities)
@Tristan Cummings Nicholas was a Schnee so he probably had glyphs but then Nicholas was willows father and weiss ,Winter and whitleys grandfather
I hope that considering dust can’t be used outside of remnant that wiess will rely more on myrmanster like an ACTUAL SWORD NOT A WAND
also hope she doesn't use as many summons
@@mnmnotaskittleindisguise1939 same or just maybe like winter to boost attacks
I mean she used to use dust with her swords but that all stopped after season five and even then it was hardly in season four and five.
i see 2nd crossover with justice league. she was unarmed...
This was uploaded just when I was looking for this compilation! The switch from Volume 3's animation engine to Volume 5's is super drastic here. Although many improvements were made in the general appearance of the show, it's a such a shame that Weiss' fighting style changed as the series went on so her fights no longer have that flair of dancing to them, and that's assuming she's actually using her sword as a blade and not a wand.
They did Weiss fighting style dirty so many times I lost count
i miss when she would actually use her rapier instead of just spamming summoning
volume 9 better make her a better fighting style rather than always relying on her summoning. man i wanna see more badass weiss
SHES THIS CLOSE TO BECOMING MY TOP 5 FAV RWBY CHARACTERS ALRIGHT
forgot to reply to this comment but shes my top either 1 or 2 after like a week i posted this comment,
Well, atleast they make her used her weapon instead of making it a wand on episode 3
well ok. idk what to expect
Vol 1-3: Weiss has incredible fencing style fight but sadly she just keep losing in one on one.
Vol 4-5: pure disgrace for how RT just have ruining her like that.
Vol6: was just Okay I’m kinda glad, but didn’t have much screen time on solo battle.
Vol 7-8: they Improved parts of Weiss finally giving her an appreciation’s, but most of all they actually gives her victory on 1v1 even if Marrow was slightly holding back.
monty the one who did the fighting scenes died...so its not that RT ruined them its that a great artist died...
The Schnee family have the most OP semblance. When we get season 9 I hope we can be introduced to more bloodlines that have a distinctive semblance shared only to them.
I think their glyphs are the closest thing to Ozma and Salem's magic abilities in the Remnant without actually being magic
This is RWBY, if there's any good thing in the show, roosterteeth will find a way to waste it
@sydorovich2532 Very true. I've always thought the Schnee family semblance was next level compared to literally anybody else in the show. And the sad part is, we probably don't even know the limits.
6:40 was a really good example of her elegance and beautiful fighting style, it sucks that she still lost in that fight.
It really was. Sadly she’s just a mage now, but I at least wish they’d bring back time dilation. I think that was the last time she used it and it was like 6 volumes ago lol
@@Halosurfer same
@@HalosurferWeiss was always the red mage, it's just that she's often been pitted against opponents she either can't go up close against or who outclass her. That, and she's refined her more long-range, supportive abilities once she got back together with the team. That, and she's also still figuring out how to harmonize all the various abilities she has.
Despite what everyone says about Weiss being weaker than she used to be (and I agree to some extent), I still think she held her own against Cinder better than Pyrrha did.
i mean considering she had no aura i think she did pretty decent
We can honestly only hope that volume 9 decides to give Weiss some better fight choreographies , ones that lets her balance her style / return to a non summoner - focused style .
She held good against winter though & that's cool as fuck -
Weiss🤝Katara🤝Sypha
Being the best support of their teams
She's literally my favorite character, and I always forget how absolutely broken she is as a combat support in the first couple of volumes. Is there anybody who clutches out as hard as Weiss does? It's a shame she's practically defenseless in the later volumes.
Also: Whitley deleting his browser history... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the weiss and marrow fight is probably my favorite of weiss' fights honestly, she uses her dust and semblance pretty creatively (like recreating freezerburn from volume 2 with her own use of ice and fire), plus a return of her flying around with her glyphs to put in some super fast strikes. Plus the use of her ice and wind where marrow starts climbing over them, the use of her summon to make it so marrow couldn't effectively use his semblance on her, and just overall i love it. I'm also going to be controversial and say I like the lancer fight, it shows how her training with her dust and semblance during volume 4 helped improve her ranged attacks, plus we finally see her summon in full action during a fight. The moment where she summons it while this life is mine plays always gets me hyped, the way the sword gets summoned with that flourish, the way she baits the lancer with what seems like a straight dive only for her to have it basically teleport around it with a ton of slashes (similar to that move weiss does of bouncing around with her glyphs), and how they both disintigrate at the end is just great to me. Though I might be a little biased since This Life Is Mine is one of my favorite RWBY songs, if not my absolute favorite. I wish we got to see her nevermore though in V8, but I'm guessing its supposed to be a similar situation to her just summoning the arma gigas arm in volume 3.
Someone's in love
Ever since she learned how use her semblance of summoning she been relying on it combined with dust she is now like a mage bruh
Damn I miss how Monty choreographed the fight scenes, rest in peace 💞
Only monty oum can animate her elegant fighting style.... The anime only restore her fast fighting style not the elegant one
I am a die hard Weiss stan. Her fighting style, personality, and growth really resonate with me. Yeah that’s a top tier character right there, she’s my girl fr.
*I will not be acknowledging anything after Volume 4*
Watching this it's clear she's better working in a team rather 1 vs 1
She always loses her 1v1:/
yeah.... but she held her group against cinder even without her own weapon
@@mst201 she was pretty much the MVP of that fight
you can gradually see how they become weaker and weaker after every chapter and it just pisses me off how disrespectful it is. Like, weiss literally took on dozens of soldiers on her own moving at blinding speed, but when its a 1v1 match, my gosh, whered her braincells go?
That's not it at all. The real problem is that Monty prioritized spectacle over narrative cohesiveness or actual power scaling of his fights. It has the effect of making everyone look way more badass than they probably were and making relative power ranking almost impossible.
@@MrGksarathyi’m a bit late but you can’t lie when i say that there has been a drastic change in the way they did weiss’ fight scenes . she was very up close and personal but ever since she unlocked summoning they turned her sword into a wand and she almost never uses her rapier as intended even with the vernal fight she tried summoning twice without immobilizing her
@@cryptiq2750 That specific fight was meant to highlight that she was still figuring out how to incorporate her shiny new skill into her arsenal, and she was explicitly over relying on it.
Otherwise, as I said before, it's mostly fight choreography and Monty's initial reliance on Rule of Cool that explains the perceived difference.
I have to say the Ice Queen has some badass moves to go along with her badass battles
I miss that pilot guy. They better make him come back later in the show
Well..I’m the plane crash, raven’s clan captured him and killed him
He's canonically dead
He was confirmed dead, Kim Newman (a rwby animator) tweeted that Hero Liao(another rwby animator) "killed him. literally"
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS
Weiss in vol 1-2 had serious mode
Thank you so much for making this 🤍💙. Weiss glyphs are always useful for the team. Best girl, my queen 😊.
FINALLY!! ALL SCHNEES FIGHT SCENES!!
It’s such a shame she doesn’t combine abilities more often.
Imagine speeding up time on the knight.
She could use her glyphs as a rail gun for her elemental attacks.
She can hold down an enemy while she creates a line of glyphs to speed up her knight.
If she doesn’t have time for a full summon, she can just dash around with the sword hand of the knight.
She can use these glyphs from pretty far away, so she could just avoid a fight entirely by keeping hidden while using all her focus on enhancing her summon.
Then there’s the hypotheticals. If the glyphs are truly flat, can they be used as blades if positioned sideways.
Can she summon just the arms of a summon quickly or sneakily enough to hold someone in place, and would it be better than the restraining glyphs?
Does the time glyph speed up her summoning time?
We know she can make her summons small, but can she summon a swarm of them if she does this?
And there’s so many more options.
To be fair, she still has a lot to learn, and she has honestly been combining abilities as time has gone by, especially from Volume 6 onwards.
Same
Considering Rooster teeth took a 3 year hiatus to work on the newest volume slated to come out early 2023, I'm kind of hoping they've improved the fighting. It feels like they made a big quality jump but didn't take the time to actually learn it in order to incorporate the things they did in the first 2/3 seasons battle wise (idk if it's just me but after the switch the battle felt less exciting due to a lack of, for a lack of better term, flashy-ness the first couple fo seasons had). I'm also hoping they can give the characters who need character development the development they need, especially those who are stuck and lost in this new dimension/world/universe(?) a lot of our character are gonna be in (such as Weiss, Ruby, and Jaune).
It only took so long for V9 because the RWBY team was working on that Young Justice crossover. Also yeah the new fights lack flashiness, good chereography, and honestly other than Yang the characters look like they barely know how to use their weapons.
I was thinking of making a video like this! I love Weiss so much, she is seriously one of my favorite characters of all time.
Her weapon has the best name, and is pretty much all sword
ahhh.. finally.. I'm crying. 💙💙💙💙💙💙
Once she started to summoning, the magic of Weiss just gone. First seasons she was fine.
while weiss' summonings are cool , i feel like it should be a separate semblance of its own. Weiss glyphs seem to do just about anything she wants
MY GIRL!!! ❄️✨💕
good to see this recommended to me within the time frame
1-3 were my favorite moments of RWBY. Weiss's fights scenes were my favorite out of all of them and they are over using her summoning in fights.
YESSS FINALLYYYYYY
Her fighting style is so satisfying OMG
I love 7:35 because he gets distracted by the glyph and then boom, weiss comes in from the other side
This series really died with Monty Oum. I never liked anime as such, but the way he animated these girls (and Weiss specifically) was absolutely unprecedentedly beautiful. So intricate, so stylish and so fierce.
Seeing all the fights past V3 just reminds of how sad it truly is that we'll never get to see more from him.
I know a lot of people dislike Weiss's new fighting style but I personally think it shows some growth.
Weiss was always a glass canon, she knew she has to strike fast and hard to win a fight and you can see that in her firsts fights where she would abuse her glyphs in order to not let her opponents respond. Which actually further drains her aura.
She slowly started to add more support moves with dusts and her glyphs providing utility for her team.
And by the newer volumes where she uses her semblance, and dust knowledge to its fullest potential instead of striking head first. Imo that's showing some growth on weiss's part
Yeah, totally agree. While her duelist style in the earlier volumes was cool, it didn't do her much good against all but the weakest opponents and put her in unnecessary danger. She's now playing more to her strengths, and over time, has learned to integrate summoning into her generally team-oriented, long-range fighting style. She can still take the fight up close, but her opponents over the volumes have made that less and less of a good idea.
Astute analysis!
I love the way Weiss fights sm
Many many years later I just realized that she loses against the chainsaw guy because she haven't mastered her time dilatation glyph as said later to Winter. Time seems to slow for her when she's about to land the coup de grace then chainsaw man just grab her ko.
Everyone here's just mindlessly bashing Weiss's changes in fighting style from Volume 4 onwards, but no, Weiss never lost her sense of grace and style, even if she didn't get as up close and personal with her rapier as she did prior. Sure, it looks different due to lack of Monty and the change in animation software, but it also reflects her attempts to incorporate new skills into her fighting style. I especially like her journey with summoning. First, she struggles with it, then once she gets the hang of it, she starts to overrely on it to the point of struggling against Vernal more than she had to, and then by Volumes 7 and 8, she has started to synthesize the two fighting styles, and now in Volume 9, she has come full circle.
Thank you! I was searching for a comment like yours. Plus it really ignores how Weiss was not doing great as just a pure swordswoman; like sure it may have looked “nicer” (which is an opinion) but it was definitely not as effective bc unlike Blake she wasn’t able to use it in conjunction with her semblance as well fighting style wise. Really her rapier works best when she uses it with Dust, so I could understand the complaints more if they were about her limited Dust usage compared to the trailer.
As someone who doesn't know anything about RWBY. I can noticeably see the change in her fighting style, a complete downgrade and dependence on summons. She can't hold her own anymore. Why?
Poor writing to be honest. She's not the only character who has been downgraded when it comes to their fighting style
my guess is that in her character, she gets very childish at times. like many children, as soon as they learn of a new trick, they can’t help themselves into doing it over and over, but it’s been so long and she has to be over it by now
FINALLY WE GET TO SEE BEST GIRL AGAIN!!! ❄️❄️❄️❄️
Our Queen
I do like Weiss' fighting style in Volumes 1-3. But then it got nerfed really bad like she was not that kind of Fighter anymore. She lost that elegance, grace and unique fighting style she got, like it was out of form or not hers. Blake's fighting style, too. She was really agile that she can't be seen that much. But then, now she can't even do it now like she became rusty all of a sudden.After not being a White Fang, she became weak like a lot. Doesn't even use her agileness anymore. Ruby, has improved a bit which is good but in Leadership and how she can utilize her speed to be an advantage to looking up to her teammates. Yang's improvement only involves in using her Semblance in the most important occassions than doing it entirely all the time.
everyone got downgraded so hard
Happy Birthday🎁🎂🎉
I wish there's a compilation of everytime Weiss uses her semblance, in battle and out.
Man, what really bugs me about RWBY now is that in the earlier seasons, we see the girls fight multiple grim and enemies like it's nothing, but in later seasons, one normal sized grim and they're getting their teeth kicked in.
I think the earlier volumes are actually the problem. Cool as they are, the fights had absolutely no sense of grounding in the narrative or actual power levels, and they were all spectacle. In later volumes, this has changed, and honestly, while it sucks when we've been trained on the earlier volumes, it's actually better this way.
I understand Weiss is meant to be elegant and strong but I feel like there’s too much elegance and femininity to her fighting style now. I liked it before where her style was a bit more rough. It might be shown in the story as development as she trains but I still find it more satisfying to watch before
she lost her elegance, she's now just reliant on crappy summoning and doesnt do much. She'd be so much better if she could be fighting with her blade like in the trailer, while also fighting with her summons, but i think theres just no animators that have the skills to do that
Weiss deadass forgot how to use dust
volume 1-3 weiss will always be my favourite
ワイスちゃんの成長が素晴らしいんですよね
the ace ops fight is my fave weiss fight
Never watched the show and I actually thought she would have a German accent bc of the Name lol 😂
The first fight is very similar to something you would see in Nier Automata
4:13 those stairs!
It's such a shame they murdered her old fighting style flare, it's like they turn her into more of a mage than a fighter wielding a rapier.
They should've made her both a mage and a fighter. Fighting using the rapier with the summons
@@janbertguerrero6988I mean, she does. You can see it. It just doesn't look the same as it did in Volumes 1-3.
@@MrGksarathy it's more like they try to make it that way, but I've only seen her LITERALLY STAND STILL while casting and letting her summon do all the work.
@@janbertguerrero6988 Weiss is quite mobile when using her Glyphs and still skates around the battlefield. With summoning, yeah she has to stay still when actually casting because even Winter has to do so, but even then, she is gradually learning how to integrate summons into her more fluid fighting style from before. Also, she only primarily relies on her summons for a few fights in Volume 5. Otherwise, she has mostly used glyphs and long range dust attacks to help herself and her teammates, and the Summons are used for the finishing blow on particularly big or tough opponents.
Besides, red mages are cool as shit bro.
weiss has the sass and i love it.
I’m going to complain about a fighting style change while ignoring the volume 5 trailer and the circumstances of the fights. Obviously she should just dash at marrow, what can he do? Should’ve just tried to stab the bee by jumping off of glyphs.
You know, I’m definitely on team let Weiss sword fight again, but at the same time, homegirl is way more powerful than her teammates by a freaking long shot, maybe they nerfed her into support main so they’d have a reason for them to lose some fights.
@I'mStrange I recommend the top 10 or 5 S tier battles in the entire series
Damn I never realised she didn't fight anyone or thing after the Boartusk in volume 1 and nothing in volume 4.
Flynt and Weiss are perfect for each other
Absolutely not
Sha has such great fighting styles. All of her styles are beautiful and elegance too. Then, something happens and all of her styles are changing too. They should bring back Weiss in Volume 1 - 3.
3:33 OMG that's the sound effect of weiss charged attack in rwby grimm eclipse
6:21 elegant flip of weissness
just gonna mention this cuz i think it needs mentioning but arma gigas is so strong that with only ONE arm summoned it chopped a paladin in half now this might not seem that impressive but keep in mind team rwby (all 4 members) took a fair amount of effort to destroy a prototype of a paladin in v2 now is this strength currently represented in the show correctly? not really but just wanted to mention it
She went from Fighter to Archmage
Weiss Schnee: All Fight Scenes a.k.a: Watch Weiss lose almost every single solo battle she's ever been in
Weiss is the best member of Team RWBY. The team would be lost without her. Best support member too
Funny considering she almost lost all of them
Lol looks like Time Dilation got forgotten harder than the Substitution Jutsu
I’m hoping in the future they fuse her fighting styles because just think her dancing and slicing her enemies while her knight defends her or would that be too OP?
She got carried so hard
Weiss really went from a mix-up fighter to a trapper/puppeteer fighter, huh?
It's like her ability to summon is making her retard in her skills and can someone tell me where her time dilation skills went?
9:53 "too bad all that money cant buy you skill" i bet that hit a nerve!
For me Weiss is surely the most POWERFUL
Yang is the STRONGEST
Ruby is the most INTELLIGENT and still growing
Blake is all of them EQUALLY cause she knows how to use her semblance well her hand to hand combat is good too and her Battle IQ and thinking is great She's all of them but in an average way. But it doesn't mean she's the number one of them 4
Now I lowkey aspire to be as graceful as weiss- I study swordplay myself and I wanna learn how to do these moves- damn-
Im just kind of sad they didn't utilize most of her abilities in the later seasons, like I wanted to see time dialation and that white thing she did with her sword as a final blow in her trailer. They kinda did her dirty tbh. Like where did the old Weiss go???
They were very inconsistent with that Weiss can do. Like what happen to her time glyphs?? Yk how many problems that could’ve got them out of?!
When the Blake Belladonna
I understand the complaints about her fighting style now and I miss the way she moved in Volume 1-3, but watching this, I don't see a lot of enemies (except Vernal and Marrow) where it would be wise to fight in duel. You can't do that against Cinder, or the Grimm in the Schnee manor, or Cordovin inside a giant robot, or the lancers in Volume 5. And yes, she fought Arma Gigas, but it's a Grimm, less stronger that the Hound (ironically beaten by the knight), not a robot, not a human. It's kind of normal that Winter trained her summoning but it would have been cool to see them duel.
I wish they made her outfits more elegant but combat ready in the later volumes. Like to me personally it didn't make sense for her hair to seem to top heavy and wearing clothes that look very restricted for movement. She was suppose to be more like a figure skater from what I've seen, but they just ruined it and made her look like a slow mage that can't move. Also like I just don't understand the need for the hair change when they reached atlas . It just dissapoints me since she is my favorite character, and I know she can do so much more then just rely on summoning. Don't get me wrong though, it cool to see her summon, but when it is at the cost of her not being able to fight regulary it just not it for me.
Me with same feeling. Weiss I used to know, was an elegant but had a strong temperament. Present Weiss such a princess has been tamed and relies so much on summoning that she forgets about the other great skills she has. I love Monty, I know he's a genius, but c'mon, is there no one else on this earth who understands her combat style?
time dilation cool af :c
Ff haste basically