That Milan joker started the session with telling us about the three eras in Indian politics, the last of them being the Mandal Era where people voted for their votebanks along caste and religion lines (though he does not mention "religion" by name). Then at 1:25:00 he tries to force the point that Indians do not vote along caste and religion lines, and cites us academic papers. Bhai, ya to tu chutia hai ki 3 eras bataye, ya to humko chutiya bana raha hai by citing spurious papers that deny votebank politics. The whole reason Rahul Gandhi fought from Wayanad and that SP-BSP came together against Modi is that there are votebanks.
You cannot paint everybody living in the West with the same brush because there are racist papers, magazines & channels like Time, New York Times, The Guardian, 'Democracy Now, CNN etc. All Americans are not responsible for them.
trifleodd, You are so nasty. You are bad mouthing me for having an opinion. If you can't tolerate other people's opinion, why do you come here & post comments ?
The basic problem is they are educated in another set of parameters, which cannot decipher this phenomenon called the “ Indian Continent”. Like those who wrote extensively about economics of a country they neither lived in nor experienced on their own, and hence, knew nothing about - excepting from some “books” or rather opinions of another alien who saw or surmised what he saw. It’s a typical - wasting time for a living group - who haven’t even been living the philosophy they claim to know so much about. The corporate figures they are taking the help of to judge doesn’t reflect more than - probably - 15% of the economy.
They even conducted this circus within a day of results, without waiting for any data or deeper analysis. Shows how they were just itching to jump to conclusions. It's easy to see they were hoping for Congress, maybe even funded by Congress sympathizers.
@@Iamlatha I just pointed it out. He's not only wrong, he contradicts himself. On one hand he talks about "Mandal politics caste votebanks", and then at 1:25:00 he says "Indians don't vote on caste lines". What? Did Pakistanis come and vote in India along caste lines during Mandal Era? And that's just ONE glaring mistake. There are tens of them. Only the Economist guy gave a balanced view.
Unless you have been born and lived in India in a poor or middle class family you can never understand or define India. For the westerners it is impossible.
@@prasanthalpha well... to me the colonial past is the biggest reason for my...and my folks' (3 generations above me) insecurity... of course the colonial suppression of everything that would have been my identity is big reason for the backwardness of not just me but many like me (and it is not money or whatever goes in the name of education that makes us backward - there is so much that is not palpable that makes or breaks a people... you seem to want to miss that point)... you are oversimplifying your self-expression by saying that there is no need for outsiders to "life the indian experience to understand it"... very disappointing...
Looking at India through the western glasses will never give a correct picture .It is like saying Rice cake for Iddly or Translating Dharma as righteousness.
Thesanathani: You are very ignorant about foreign experts. They are discussing the economic aspects of the country and not cultural. If you have better analysis then respond accordingly and not confuse the issue..
you are rude...we have heard these kinda kachra before..it's ok for these dumbs to cry..like time magazine said after elections sorry modi in their own way...we just have tolook our indic values and history , too rich too lovely . Jai Hind . Jai shree RAM.
you cant summarize only one reason for modi victory. balakot,nationalism,decisiveness,electrification,gas cylinder,housing scheme. poor leadership in opposition,clean india,building toilets all played important role.
@@blueberry82733 well his schemes are seen on the ground not only by bhakts but NDTV also which they mention again and again electrification, gas cylinder, clean india, housing for all toilets There may be corruption here or there but all these schemes have touched ground.
Clara Simon .... So EVMs are brilliant when Congress / AAP / pseudoecularists win, like when Congress won 3 state assembly elections recently; but are hacked when BJP wins! That's pure hypocrisy..
@john doe India is a middle class based family business that held the economy even banks of the world are at recession Mainly based on saving Economy not a spending
@john doe I said family bussines and communities which provide employment I am talking about the family who is having a turn over o more minimum 3 L but they never covered in GDP because they never go to bank.
@john doe What is wrong with selling flower and SME that? Should we run our economy by selling arms to extremists? Or letting other countries do our manufacture? Or by running up huge deficits even in peace time? Let these western intellectuals fix the poverty problem in the West first.
No sir ,,BJP was and not now,, never a party of hindi speaking allied party. I m from bengal and BJP was dormant due to dictators ruling, NAMO changed BJP from dormant to ACTIVE..here..... ..Change ur narrative.. Thnx....
What I find so surprising is that Alyssa sounded so more much in touch with ground reality than Eswar Prasad. A discussion at any road corner tea stall would be a lot more insightful than Eswar Prasad's long monologue.
Modi has done good job in Economics even by maneuvering political opposition who were obstructing. 1) DeMo 2) GST 3) Bankruptcy Code 4) Direct Benifts 5) Opening up Bank Accounts for all 6) ... ..... Yes lots more needs to be done.. will take them up one by one on the local interest not on international interest.
Almost Lutyens like assessment, where these simply missed the fact that Rahul was no match against Modiji. They entirely ignored the facts that the economy was indeed doing well, jobs was an exaggerated issue and third Modiji was incorruptible.
@@lazypops3117 Narendra Modi has a very particular policy programs. Both Social and Financial. The Lok Sabha MPs basically endorse his line and people vote for that. Your argument about this fantasy-land theoretical constitutional guidelines is dumb. People are not myopic, they see the bigger picture, and they always have. Not a new factor.
@@kshitijshrey one single party line cannot fit all constituencies. ideally each representative should speak for their constituents, not fall in line with the dear leader's propaganda. you may call it fantasy land, but democracy as a popularity contest isn't at all the goal of democracy. and bjp politics has transformed that system into an emotionally manipulative fantasy version of what it should be
@@Iamlatha You are delusional. Most of them didn't know where their next meal was going to come from. You people worry about where to order your next meal. Neither you nor the panelists will ever understand what it's like for rural women to have access to clean cooking gas, public toilets and bank accounts.
Even BJP didn’t think Modi would be able to get the amount of seats be got. Proof is Gadkari’s name being thrown out there in the ring for PM and Modi’s mann ki baat press conference, if you even want to call it that.
@@M20-z4j I don't think so , Amit Shah had given a statement way before that we would score 300+this time, and so did BJP. It wasn't just Modi, Shah and to some extent Rahul were also responsible
Not sure what you are trying to say. What i’m saying is going by BJP’s body language in last phase they were surprised. Both political parties spent money on their own opinion polls to see which way voters were going. And, its very aafe to assume voters surprised everyone.
@@M20-z4j MP, Maharashtra, Gujrat and UP are already BJP strong holds so I don't see any reason to be surprised that they won. though I agree even BJP wouldn't have thaught they would get so many. At some places congress got shocked because they underestimated their opponents.
Modi will completely change India and the west will be surprised beyond measure. Look at the past of Hindu India. It was the wealthiest, Most dynamic, Powerful, full of wisdom, etc before it was destroyed by islamic invaders ,the English East India company and then the British rule and the congress which was a continuation of the same. . It has shaken off these things under Modiji.
Modi got reelected because 1. He is honest, comes from a humble background, hard working 2. He has the courage to choose what is good for India rather than a specific vote bank 3. He represents true nationalist and democratic values 4. Poor class people problem were addressed and steps were taken to raise their income 5. He united indians in India and abroad 6. He put India in super power path 7. He screwed the family dynasty rule of congress who are bootlickers of imperialists 8. PM designation is earned nor inherited 9. Food inflation index very low 10. Inflation rate controlled 11. Revived economy with demonitisation 12. Kicked the asses of terrorist countries 13. Did not break in pressure 14. Restored indian values and heritage that was mutilated by britishers and mughal rule 15. He is spiritual not religious so all sections of the society admired him 16. He brought out the real faces of anti nationals and sold medias like NDTv etc 17. He is patriotic 18. Digitalised economy and introduced framework model that world can adopt 19. Did not succumb to western media critic rather focused on development of india 20. And many more
Unemployment is due to protest. Remember sterlite closure and kia motors shifting to andhra. Its all because of DMk. Farmer suicide is false. They have been well compensated by govt. Their suicide is due to unauthorized money lending by mafias handled by DMK.
Some pointa are right but some are wrong like domenetisation and forced and early implementation of GST ruined economy( GST shld hv come phase wise) and digitisation began around 2011 with and it was planned by the excutives around 2008 .not govt....upa govt of around 2008 was doing nothing ..
They think whatever America has policies or laws, every country has it. This is a typical dystopia these left-wing liberals have around the globe, that's why they want to save the world by destroying it....
@@alyssaayres9572 even if they were they are completely unaware of their own society that's why they were predicting the defeat of Trump and can't digest the rise of the right wing politics and nationalism and so for them it is post truth..........that means all the loosers of the world assembled together and declared all those things as post truth which they don't want to accept as truth'.
Should I demonstrate my disappointment about these highly "academically" educated panelists who missed the most important point about why Modiji won in 2014 and went on to win again in 2019 and perhaps will win again in 2024: "IDENTIFICATION" ........This word has not been mentioned even once in this discussion. You did not get it, I know. Let me explain. A man identifies himself with another whom he believes will identify with himself. So, when this simple man who struggled throughout his life, selling tea at train stations as a child helping his parents who, then, despite not having attended western universities, lifts a state like Gujarat to unimaginable heights, the man on the street starts to wonder and says to himself..."someone like me was capable of such achievement" !!! That means like someone like me also has "value". Then he suddenly realizes that this great man speaks in a local language rather the language of those who oppressed and looted his country while the "other" politicians adopt the language of those who oppressed them for centuries and finally broke the country and created havoc. These thoughts build up into an explosion that finally transforms the layman into a follower of the one with whom they identify as their own, as their idol, as their hero. And when that hero gives them and their women cooking gas, toilets, electricity and starts empowering them, make them open bank accounts, encourages them to use technology for bank dealings, they realize the extent to which English speaking politicians had been crushing them for decades under their feet making them feel like filth while they, as well, could have easily walked the path of progress. That is why Modiji won and if he delivers as he has been delivering, he will win again and again. His victory has very little to do with economy, employment or terrorist neighbors. IDENTIFICATION.
Mr Milan says at 46:20 and I quote "Dynastic succession is great so far it allows for easy transition". Its so pathetic to see him trying to defend his patrons the Vadra family. #boycottLutyensMedia
@@ikahccbr yup,Bhakt logic is far superior than that of chamchas and bong "aantel" (pseudo intellectual) commies as far as I am concerned as an Indian and as a Bengali!!
@GamingzoneOh right ,that's why the Muslims demanded for an Islamic Nation because it was the Hindu's ,who are paranoid and apathetic towards Muslims . *slow claps*
@Bramha's Astra now they even waanna join the forces just to eat it from the inside . The forces are way out of their league . They know how to turn them into real patriots . I have seen many Muslims in the Indian Air Force and they are beautiful people because they have been trained to love their country . All Indian Muslims aren't that bad but some are . Those who are bad should meet justice . Those Hindus who are bad should also get justice . Everybody bad should get justice now .
I laugh when i see these bookish intellectuals debating about a country whose culture they donot understand and moreover on a country in which they donot live.... Lol
No no NO! An absolute NO! India is still suffering from the days we treated the British imperialists as our guests and even sold them all our homes, belongings, wife and children. Indians should be the ones civilizing barbaric Westerners.
Sorry man...Indian hear but your thoughts are wrong...You don't know or get the feel of what is governance means unless you don't get our of India.You speak with a patriotic heart but not with your head. I respect your patriotism.
It’s interesting how all of the panelists keep saying minority and inclusiveness, tells me how you all have so missed the point. An academic discussion but not close towards understanding the Indian mind. Also many relevant points, thanks for that
10:19 I will save you months of data for the answer, people remember how congress government performed before, and recognize how new government under Modi is performing now. Also many compared experienced Modi with Rahul who is still not as mature and has no credibility. When you put a choice like peanuts or pizza, people would always choose pizza.
Or, maybe there is a new class of young voter who grew of age after 2008 when all they've seen of Congress is it's non response to 2008 attack, the financial crisis, followed by the slew of scandals too many to list. For them, history began in 2014 and it has been good going throughout. The point I'm trying to make here sir, is to always remain humble and open to the possibility of another explanation for a phenomenon. Instead of, you know, arrogantly declaring the true gospel which only one knows.
Young people voted for Modi because they are more educated and have access to social media... They were able to see that Congress didn't do the job of developing India in past 70 years. So obviously Modi did a lot and definitely deserved a second term.
@@junaidkhan-vz5br I think it's the ability of the party to manipulate people into believing whatever they tell them to, and seeing only what the party wants them to see. RAM MANDIR WAS A NEWS OF JUST ONE WEEK. The party also has a fan base and an IT cell which passed on alot of fake news and hatred material against opposition parties on whatsapp and social media..which was another big way off getting people's minds manipulated.
@@junaidkhan-vz5br Modi didn't even talk about Ram Mandir in this campaign as opposed to 2014. In fact opposition brought up Mandir to denigrate Modi then BJP itself. In any case it'll be build by 2020 and settle the issue once and for all, coz SC can't keep delaying the inevitable.
Modi is seen as a person who is decisive and willing to take decision which others may or may not like, be it Demonetisation, Goods and Services Act, The Insolvency Code, The Aadhar No ( Unique Identity)something like the Social Security No, and as one who would fight corruption without making exceptions. He is also acceptable to the Hindu Majority but who is not entirely committed to that Identity. The country also feels that he is keen to equip the Armed Forces with the hardware it requires urgently. He is seen as one who breaks the mould of a Laid back easy going PM.
1:04:48 Vajpayee never called Indira Gandhi, Maa Durga. He was misquoted by the media, which was never retracted. Please see this video ua-cam.com/video/M06lE-6Ce7M/v-deo.html
THANKS india for choosing MODI he was the best for india. But now we must force the government to implement land and labour laws and have a written national defence strategy. Economic reforms are a must for higher growth rate.
@Sukhi Hanjra Sorry, but you can’t be brainwashed to support Modi; you have to do it yourself out of your free will. The right does not brainwash people like the leftists.
we will no more waste out time and energy by talking about about Pakistan . May be the west wan ts it to be a constant thorn on the body politic of India
Who are these political "theorists" (I call them theorists and not scientists because they make only conjectures without any evidence) who don't have an iota of idea of what is going on in the ground? How do you become panelists here and claim to call yourselves "distinguished"?
By research. Go look them up before you call them out. They accepted themselves they didn’t see it coming. So whats the point in saying the same thing in another way?
@shri If you would care to listen to them they themselves claimed they didn't see it coming and would like to understand it in the time to come. The argument you are making is if Kohli is the best batsman in Cricket then he should always score. How about you quit your job and do what they are doing full time and see if you can do it better?
@shri thats not what I'm saying. You have every right to voice your opinion. But, remember the way you have every right to voice your opinion others (Like me) also have the same right to show you how flawed your logic is. Your boss at work just doesn't tells you you did wrong, they also tell you why. Similarly, academics study real world and then come up with models but those models don't always predict everything. And, when that happens if we say they are dumb that just makes us look stupid unless we provide a better model or a tweak to the existing model. Again, everyone is allowed to voice their opinions stupid or otherwise. Like, I can say there is no gravitational force and it's actually Modi force.
what kind of negative debate it is ...i hear only negativity in this debate ...only butthurt ....it feels like someone is dead and condelence meeting going on ....india is still fastest growing major economy yeah there are some worrying sectors ..but this debates idea is all about sadness ...
I didn't feel that there was discussion with ground knowledge. Ground realities are different. My English is not great but this discussion was not deep...only surface level discuss. You could have got good political discussion at any barber shop in India....may be not with great presentation but ground level knowledge. And believe me , I'm not being over the top.
Do Hindu Rashtar extremists have high standards? Why do Hindu Rashtar extremists rip open mothers womb with trishul to kill unborn child as stated by Hindu hero Babu Bajrangi? Why Hindus burnt alive Two little kids Australian Graham steins? Shameless cowards are you from the Riots Shikshan Sanstha RSS. Stop killing innocent scholars like Dr Pansare Dr Kalburgi and Gauri lankesh. Throw your stones in Arabian sea don't worship them
These well fed intellectuals keep forgetting that there is a rural India for which Modi has done much work... He has touched poor people of the country n therefore people have given him another chance to improve their life...
@@151samm just answer the question instead of going the typical bhakt way of insulting others. What exactly did he do for the poor people of the country?
@@ikahccbr I won't because I want ur entitled darbari ass to do it's own research... If u r really r are incompetent then say please n I might think of helping ur entitled ass...
@RapistAndFalse ProphetMuhammed I actually live in a village. So I was really curious about his answer. The only thing modi did was to get Ambanis to put a few Jio towers around here, so you cannot ignore spastics like him even in the remotest corners of India.
As the great modern day satire writer Kansara has put it:: "What do you see in the room, Chaubey?" *the elephant in the room expectantly poses, showing off his tusks* "The roof." "Roof? Don't you see anything obviously different, Chaubey?" *the elephant expectantly raises his trunk* "The fan, obviously. Who needs one in an AC room?" "Fan, Chaubey? Bow your bloody head down, your highness, and look around." *the elephant dances excitedly" "Window. It lets in sunlight during the day." "Yes, Chaubey. Very smart. What else do you see?" *the elephant plays garba in the room* "TV without Netflix. Unusual." "Brilliant, Chaubey! Can't you see anything big enough that's blocking your view?" *the elephant slaps Chaubey* "Clock." "I said big and blocking your view." *the elephant grows angry and trumpets noisily* "The clock is big and blocking the view of a lizard behind it." "You can see the lizard behind the clock but not what's in front of you?" *the elephant calls in his sister, shrinking the room* "Sofa." "Well, Chaubey, I'll waste my time down South with rationals & literates." *the elephants grow bigger, almost crushing Chaubey* "Tiles." /
@@S4sent South rationals and literates? stupid irrational jerks that send their wives to temples for proxy punya; and uneducatable masses half of which think movie stars are gods and the other half, that expects world to bow down to them because their ancestors were great 5/10/50k years ago
USA and ruaia mostly run their economies on war instruments and technology which are more beneficial earnings.. But in india mostly on hard work and natural resources and agriculture... India should independent on war materials and technology...
You want a more open india???...so that capitalism of the Us can destroy it? No thanks...india is way different from the Us...you should not apply the same parameters u apply to America on Bharat...
Overall a very good discussion unlike the discussions going on some of the mainstream foreign media. Panelist tried to look at the issue more objectively with facts and present stats. To my surprise, Elissa was very knowledgeable about the policies and scheme laid out by BJP on grass root level which you rarely see among foreign Journalists who only likes to portray Modi as some evil person. Most of the elitists in India hate him because they just can't comprehend a person not so literate is calling shots for the country. Whatever he does for the good of public is seen as propaganda by them. Modi may not have a Harvard degree under his belt but he is lot more familiar to ground realities in India. He didn't perform well on all the fronts but good enough to warrant another term in governance. Meanwhile, opposition needs to take a long hard look at themselves and what do they stand for. Because without good opposition in parliament, BJP may not strive for further betterment. I think BJP can continue its progressive work in the country for next 5 years without indulging in cheap politics. Good luck to them!!
If presiding over murders of countless people doesn’t make you evil not sure what else does. Modi is as unfit as Trump and this has nothing to do with their policies. They don’t have a policy of their own, its rather driven largely by their ideology which they share with a lot of their party men. The first speaker put it aptly. Elections are a matter of perception, and fact of the matter is Modi has way better image than anyone else in India at the moment. But that doesn’t mean he’s a saint or best guy for the job. A godse loving candidate wins while someone who worked for the betterment of people loses to a candidate who has zero experience in governance. Now, if that doesn’t highlights how irrational human beings are i’m not sure what else will. Don’t make the same mistake you accuse liberals of making. Its too generic to say people who voted for Modi like him for what he has done for India, just like its too naive to say whatever Modi does is good for India. His tenure is filled with mistakes, sending jets under the cover of clouds against the advice of his generals is one such example.
@@M20-z4j M 20 Are you even serious??? First of all, Politician say stupid things all the time to gain the confidence of masses no matter how ludicrous. Here's the link to video... ua-cam.com/video/FpvKcjLXoNo/v-deo.html Where the so called Erudite, snobbish and sophisticated Mr Rahul Gandhi made one of the most preposterous accusations which had fundamental flaws. (Go check it out. It's funny as hell). Don't get me wrong I am certainly not defending Modi's theory by making other one look stupid. What I am trying to say is that his 'Cloud' comment is blown out of proportion to belittle his vernacular background and how he is unfit to lead the country. Secondly, how can you even have temerity to put the blame of killings in gujrat riots (I assume you are talking about Gujrat riots) on Modi's soldier. If you're from India then you would know how complex these issues have been for decades if not hundreds of years. I would have understood if you said that his actions might not have helped placate the issues in large. But saying he was the sole to blame for the enormity is bit far-fetched. (Right now I am starting to believe you know nothing about India but anyway) I will make your life easier. If you are hell bent on comparing with global "misfits" then for me he bears more resemblance to ERDOGAN. Trump is loathed by voters at this point in time who voted for him whereas Modi has not just retained his voters but also made new ones. (You didn't even do that right M20) Well on Godse thing. Going back to my earlier point, just like you made Modi reprehensible for Gujrat riots. Most of the Indians have now realized that if not for Gandhi's/Neherus, millions of Hindu/Muslim/Sikhs would never have been murdered and they are right to think so. I am not in anyway saying they would do anything deliberately but they certainly didn't have foresight to see the brewing problems beforehand. They also have their fair share of blame. (At this point I know you know jackshit about indian history but I would still go on..) You said a Godse lover won against someone who was working for the betterment of society. I would also hate someone who would win vote in name of someone else and having no clue about socioeconomic issues but let me tell you something. You know who has always thrived on dynastic politics. Yes it's the Congress. I know u only know winning candidates from BjP who has no experience in politics but you would be surprised to find out how many newbies Congress fielded this time. When I say newbie I mean Congress members sons/nephew/wives. They lost so u probably won't know them but had they won what would you say then.???
It is not correct to say that Modi did not push reform: 1) GST made India into a single market for goods and along with DeMo helped documentation and formalization of the economy. Those small businessmen that cane in the tax net for the first time and those that benefited from corruption around octroi/VAT were the losers. 2) Bankruptcy law has visibly put crooked promoters on the defensive and put creditors in the driving seat. Clearly the promoters who treated bank loans as quasi equity were the losers. 3) Direct benefit transfer bypassed many middlemen and put money directly in the hands of the beneficiaries. Obviously the middlemen were the losers. 4) Monetary policy reform and inflation targeting were very successful in stamping out 5 years of double digit inflation 5) Improving ease of doing business where India’s ranking improved from 142-77. In achieving this result, business process streamlining, policy streamlining, automation : all had a role to play. This means that many mid level functionaries lost the case by case decision making authority and associated bribes 6) FDI reform - There has been major reform in what areas there can be FDI (defense), how much FDI can be brought in (insurance) and the approvals needed to bring it in (FIPB has been dismantled). Again case by case decision makers in government as well as associated fixers in private sector would be the losers. 7) RERA- RERA has put the power in the hands of retail home owner and put an end to the unfair practices of many builders who were the obvious losers. Also the greater formalization of the economy has reduced the black money in the system and the home prices have become more affordable 8) Financial inclusion - Jan Dhan Yojana, MUDRA yojana, Atal Pension yojana have dramatically improved financial inclusion. Unified payment interface and payment banks have cut down cost if transactions dramatically and increased digital financial transactions even fir small value transactions. In addition there has been a dramatic improvement in pace of infrastructure development and service delivery to the poor and disenfranchised regardless of their caste, religion or language. This improves opportunity for all.
Akash Singh 1) Farmer distress is due to decades of underinvestment. BJP is trying to improve it by accelerating investments in irrigation, food parks, issuing over 16 crore soil health cards to improve productivity, improving the share if farm to fork revenue a farmer gets through e-NAM. If things for farmers had gotten worse under BJP, do you think they would have got such a heavy mandate? 2) India does not have good reporting on unemployment as it only collects numbers on those employed in formal sector. BJP is trying to correct this by developing such a report. Underemployment is a reality in India but it has by no means been aggravated under BJP. In fact the rapid infrastructure buildout, growing hospitality industry, aggressive roll out of service to rural India have created many real jobs. MUDRA loans have created income opportunities for many such as Ola/Uber drivers; delivery boys for Amazon, Flipkart, Swiggy; beauty parlors etc. 3) There were no riots throughout Modi government 2014-19. Reporting local crimes against Muslims aggressively while observing strategic silence about crimes against Hindus, a false narrative has been sought to be built about minorities under attack. Actual trends in crime between 2009-14 and 2014-19 do not support that narrative
Dr D. Natarajan If there were riots, they could have been cited. Not possible to cite source for ‘no riots’. While Akhlaq has been imprinted in collective memory, no one remembers Ankit Tiwari who was beheaded by a Muslim mob because he married a Muslim girl. While everyone remembers Pehlu Khan, no one remembers Paresh Meesta. The list goes on...
@@cherishgp Man u r a grt writer bt u r only inclined on one side, ur cmplt analysis don't show any data , u r just talking like leader (neta) who hv collection of words in his pocket. I won't say 16th Lok sabha govt did nothing bt there is qus... is everything happened in last five years is building a strong democratic country. Nd u can't kill a man for cow there is lots of another kind of punishment. #disclaimer:- I'm the big fan of leadership like our PM
The tall guy had no idea what he is talking about called himself economists no wonder he is friend with Raghuram , demonization was a political cost but he skip that part ...
@@prat391 you need to understand economic first ..for last 10 yr indian gdp was growing rapidly but the taxes net was not growing ...means people are getting rich but govt is getting no taxes and unable to complete our budget and had to take loan from world bank our fiscal deficit was above 5% ...all because people have business in black form ...thanks to demonetization that black system is collape no more loophole ....now people have to go through proper channel ,register gst and the taxes net has risen ....yes the black system has collape and the growth has suffer but it had to be done ....in America 53 % people taxes in India only 2% ..the tax to Gdp ratio in eruope is upto 50 % and in india its around 16% ....with more taxes govt can complete it's budget and give benefits like Heath insurance for poor up to 5 lakh ...no direct tax on earning up to 5 lakh
@@indiarocks5731 Good points, but I wish the government had come out with a comprehensive white paper on the same. Raghuram and many others were opposed to the de-monetization, they claimed there were more efficient ways to increase tax & banking penetration. Please don't put Raguram Rajan in the same boat with many other U.S. based economists. He is honest & decent chap unlike many others who take insane amt of money from lobby.
@@ssn90 if so why did not tax net not increased in last 10yr nobody had the political will.. govt came up with the amnesty scheme ..where you can declare black properties claim sum percentage of it and become the part of tax net ..I think the last date was 31July of that yr . .only people opposition Demonetisation are the one benefitting from it some way or other
@@indiarocks5731 yes you may be right.. that is why I say government should come out with white paper in the near future. Till now most people are confused whether it was curbing terrorism or general black money or increasing tax net. As you say, tax is a big problem. 2-3 years back, 1 crore people filed tax returns but with zero tax.
Fact is people voted *NDA to power the second time not on the basis of caste, creed or religion, but on the development agenda and social upliftment initiatives" taken by the ruling government which reached maximum number of people.Those *voters/beneficiaries came out in large number and exercised their franchise as a gesture of gratitude to the party in power.*
And, where did you get this fact from? Did people also put the reason why they were voting for BJP? There is not NDA btw, BJP didn’t need it in 2014, it doesn’t need them now.
Eeshwar "We can't see delivery (Modi schemes) and there is no vision". Typical Coconut (Brown on the outside, White on the inside type argument. This after it is the beneficiaries of the Modi Govt schemes have voted enmasse for BJP. Coconuts don't know ground reality.
Wrong on so many levels, you should not measure India on western scales, its an amalgamation of invisible chaos and stability to say the least. I have been living here for over 12 years and still fail to gasp the psychology of something happening in a neighboring state. Also BJP is not a party confined to 'Hindi hinterlands', it has voices around the South, West, Northern hills and in North-eastern parts of India where people share a very different racial demography; again asserting my opinion that common sense does not apply while analyzing India on social or political fronts.
I have heard Trump praise India's negotiating skills that is benefiting India. I see more of this to happen in the coming years. The talent from Indian's all over the world is ready to offer its support for the good of India, led by Modi. This may provide unstoppable momentum to the fastest growing economy.
This election was indeed fought on nationalism and nation security issues primarily unlike 2014 when it was anti corruption and pro developement. The critical issues or what the panelist called 'laundry list' was simply kept off the shelf. Leadership knew how and when to strike gold and rallied behind the Modi juggernaut. The one thing this government has managed well is image projection and 'manufactured consent' bit. Overall this was a good, balanced discussion. Some fair points, subtle remarks and constructive criticism. Milan was particularly spot-on
@john doe I don't believe in 'no alternative' but yes this election turned out that way. RahulG is not even worthy opponent to his own minions, forget anyone else. The point essentially was about campaign theme. Public memory is short, they remember an effective sales pitch not necessarily access it. If it presses the right buttons, that's it. Congress failed miserably even on that front. Prime Minister has done just that and Shahji has ensured flawless delivery. "Sabka Saath, Sabka Vikaas, Sabka Vishwaas." That's what PM has said and that's what is needed.
@john doe I get a feeling you want to put words in my mouth. I guess I already said what I intended. Whether it's ridiculous or sensible, just an opinion among billions. It wont matter either way. ✌
Modi 1.0 did GST, Bankruptcy Law ,inflation target & cleaning up of banks as formidable financial changes.. swach bharat was deep psyche change.. Modi 2.0 Did farm & labour laws but were vetoed by certain state which make it religious issue where as intellectual who did advocacy on people were having same laws in their home country.. Now to modi's success he did manage to sail through pandemic wars & keep economy as good as it could be.. But in Modi 3.0 We want him to do Gujarat 3.0 like he did double digit growth we want him to do that for atleast decade.. he need to go for big ticket reform & recourse our country to take on china although thats 2-3 decade thereafter.. aggressive capatalism with MSMEs will be the only way forwad.. to fund socialism (healthcare & education) we need investment (capitalism)
Pride in India is not the same as Indian Nationalism. Hindus had always been inclusive and we had Muslim Presidents, Vice Presidents, Corpse Commanders and equivalent Ranks in other arms who served with distinction, Chief Justices and Muslims of all shades, Wahabis, Deobandis, Sunnis, Shias of all shades and Ahmadiyas live in India without any friction.
False.Islam has nothing to do with Indian culture or history. It was forced into India by barbarian invaders from the middle east. Stop worshipping Middle Easterners and Whites and kissing their boots.
Yes.. But we are struggling to hide that this is how 200+ million muslims live everyday. Video from 1 day after Modi won Elections: twitter.com/i/web/status/1131960285374193664
@Chirag Patel So you are saying you are okay turning into someone you hate just in the name of your Hindu ego. What some Islamic leaders are doing today is clearly poisonous. How does replicating that is a good move. Its like saying a failed state printed a lot of money, let us do that too. Indian Muslims are Indians first. We are brothers as Indians and instead of trying to heal the increasing gap between Muslims and Hindus we should work to heal the wounds from the past.
@@dr.sachidulalchanda3134 you know that's the only channel owned and run by journalists right? Zee news, republic TV, news18 all these channel where our supreme leader shows his face are either owned by Ambanis or BJP mps. So technically speaking. They are the pimps and whores of BJP.
Just letting you all know that Modi will do it all, economic reforms in terms of labor and land reforms and get rid of the red tapes... He will also do huge social reforms and benefits... He'll also continue building infrastructure... And he won't bow down to China. Now because he'll do it all at once you won't be able to get the results that you expect... But it'll still be far far better than what it was before.
@john doe hire and fire is already the norm for a large section of our society...which runs informal sector... These are the people that need jobs... They'll accept it...coz it's better than nothing... And to be honest the BJP has so complete control over the Media now that they can spin almost anything.
@john doe hahaha you didn't get my point... I'm saying changing labor law doesn't hurt as many people as you think... And it can be done in phases. One sector at a time... starting with manufacturing.
These so called expert talk reminds me of simple Indian village folks discussing how some complex machine like Rocket or Airplane works - Absolutely clueless with hilarious consequences’ . A perfect example of snake oil sellers- These self declared experts are professionals who make a living out of their clueless expertise
Abhijit Banerjee is the piece of work who worked out that monstrosity called NYAY = Pay People To Sit At Home. To fund that he proposed taxes to be raised upto 70%. So this Eashwar guy who is part of the RRR , Abhijit Banerjee gang is a strict No No for any Indians.
Are we done with the tropes " Modi is a tyrant", "Modi is bad", "Modi is a Nazi".... focus on why he won and how INC is corrupt. How can india improve and bring people out of poverty?????
They can't do better. They will keep seeing everything with their fucked up lens. These assholes and sepoys in the west think they have a moral highground on us Indians. The Brits cooked up false cases of social justice as an excuse to allow church to enter and start conversions in the sub continents.
Lady, please note that Hindutva is not a "religion" aimed at overwhelming indian minority communities (Muslims, Christians, others). It is instead an "inclusive & collaborative "way of life" that goes way back 5000 years of "Sanaatanaa Dharma" of ancient Bhaarat (India) History bears mute testament that Islamic invaders and European colonists have Brutally exploited this magnanimous and inclusive culture of Hindutva to meet their agendas
This so-called secular/communist/socialist institution, when gives so much importance to AAP (which BTW never won one election on its own, except in Delhi, since its inception or rather I'd say after all of AAP candidates factually lost their deposits everywhere else except in Delhi) giving so much importance to this urban naxal movement called AAP, which now definitively seems to a thoughtful Indian, that AAP is formed by Vatican and communists/socialists/seculars by funding AAP through CIA/Ford Foundation/Shimrit Lee by design to destroy Hindu identity of India!
In 1947 “sons of the soil” were at bottom of pit and “sons of Macaulay (founder of Indian Education Act 1835)” were at the peak of rise....now history is changing son of the soil is “Modi” and son of Macaulay is “Pappu”...what a change we are looking now, waiting for centuries to happen.
38:14 Rakesh Zunzunwalla popularly know as Indian Warren Buffett few months back said that " Modi is a socialist and therefore he wants to distribute the Pie; but Modi is also a capitalists so he also knows that the Pie must be made larger so everyone can have it."
Yes, i did hear that comment. The socialist is not really Modi though. Its actually RSS. And, Modi’s capitalism is crony at best just like congress. Look at Ambanis, Adanis prospering under him. Gujju bhai always look out for another gujju, thats a universal trait of gujjus.
These people are mostly discussing based on info released in foreign press. They have no true sense of the changes in social, economical structure being brought by Modi and his govt.
The magnitude of vctory was thanks to the Campaign style of Opposition Congress that courted Minority Identity politics at the last minute.There was already a undercurrent of switch to a Cultural Nationalism of hindutva away from Nehruvian Secular Nationalism and this bad move by Sonia Gandhi to appeal openly for a Anti Majority and Minority Appeasing mandate backfired on the Hindu majority that was actually considering support to Rahul Gandhi who was endorsing a Pro Hindu soft Hindutva image.This was the fatal mistake that lead to a massive hinedu backlash.
My friend, do you even know what secularism is? Political parties are known to make calls to vote based on religion and i don’t think you can objectively separate bjp from congress. Bashing Nehru is a fashion in our country now. Give me one logical reason why India of pre-independence and after chose to go with Congress (not Congress of today) and not the likes of savarkars? All the leaders we like to praise like Sardar patel joined congress in stead of Nagpur RSS brigade along with millions of Indians who followed Gandhi. Why was that?
@@M20-z4j Why? Because they were Guilt Trapped by Godse' s thoughtless killing of Gandhi.Hindu Mahasaba was actually rising up like BJP ion the 90s in the early 1940s and most hindus could see Gandhi was very insensitive to hindu suffering in the hands of Muslim League.Gandhi is on record asking hindu women who came to him and told of their rapes to grit their teeth and let the rape and wash the feet of rapists with tears.If any leader spoke like this today Feminists in the world will rise such a storm that he would be shamed from public life. Yet here you go yap on secularism and the Socialist mania of Nehru that plunged India into poverty for half a century as if he is some angel; which was the fashion of duffers of the past.This is 21rst century and here is Putin who explains how a nation must work. 'It is the Minority that needs Russia and not Russia that needs the minority.we will NOT bend our laws to sharia'. Now you yap again India is Secular. It is NOT as long as you have Separate laws based on Religion. First see if you can make India truly Secular by having Uniform Civil Code and not separate religion based civil laws then lecture to us Hindu Nationalists.Like socialism secularism is a fetish to keep the hindu element out and yet appease the non-hindu elements in the name of secularism and minority.Try as hard as you may,we have educated enough hindu youth that you cant find that many fools like good old days of your Nehru and Gandhi family era.
@@AronAroniteOnlineTV Comparing all who oppose BJP to Gandhi? This is the talk of irresponsible people with a fascist bent. We all know Gandhi was extreme and unreasonable. That is no reason to go over to the party of Aditya's, Prayag's and Shah's. WE see through this mixing of fact and sentiment. Old trick, well covered in history.
And as if India's new class of Hindutva supporting tech workers in India and abroad were not a product of Nehru's IIT's. You are a dishonest lot, just like Congress in fact.
Aliens from far away galaxy wasting the endowments money through their Ivory tower analysis. these guys are so off from ground reality that listening to them sounds like they are talking about some parallel world
Brookins should also worry about why the democrats still use super delegate system? India cannot think of stupid traditional economic parameters. You need a different out of the box thinking. If you want Indians to live like Americans, you will need more than 2-3 Earths. The country does NOT need economists but Environmental Economists. I.e. specialists in environmental technology/engineering but who know enough economics to direct growth policy. I.e. Generalizing specialists. Good speakers actually though the lady on the extreme left was totally unclear, no clarity in speech & difficult to understand.
Eshwar in his first comments did not mention about inflation being under control -hovering around 4 %.In every previous election sometimes even onion prices decided the outcome of elections.Fuel prices were relatively high in spite of fall in crude prices.The logic was that people had got used to the high prices and the extra revenue could be used for infrastructure development.Opening of over 30 million zero balance bank accounts for Direct Benefit Transfer was a great achievement which plugged the leak to the middlemen.The construction of 90 million toilets for the rural public was a great social initiative which brought him a huge chunk of women votes.There were more than 147 schemes directly benefiting the poor.
There is another logic for not reducing oil prices. Mindless spending has caused India to miss its fiscal deficit target again! So the only way to make the ends meet is revenue therefore oil prices didn’t fall despite crude oil prices been at historic low. I’m not suggesting running fiscal deficit is a bad thing. But what is bad is setting up a budget and then not meeting it without any good reasons. Building toilets got him vote is a speculation, may very well be a good speculation but you don’t know that for sure. How he got votes he got is even a misty for Modi himself if one want to speculate based on BJPs body language during end phase of the election.
@RapistAndFalse ProphetMuhammed An irrelevent comment.The EC has an open challenge to prove EVM tampering as you suggest.Why not take up the challenge and prove yourself right-All Indians will bow down to you.
When 900million people vote , you can talk BS how mch you want , the people decided India is a Hindu country , everybody feels safer under that kind of India
Hmm..so if one of them visited India say during election that recently concluded will your hate for them turn into respect? And, will you be willing to listen to them?
Lady, When Trump can be pro American business, what's not correct in Modi being pro indian business ?? Why should there be a different criteria ?? Eg. Trump's policies against Iran, adversely impacts India's crude oil purchase bill ? Do you think Trump will provide India similar Trade terms or compensate India in some other way ?
US politics is not like Indian politics. And case in point I believe this Brookin institute is a progressive or leftist think tank. They will criticise both Trump and Modi.
@@rakoveith9443 sure the politics may be as different as chalk n cheese. So what value do these "intectuals" bring by equating non comparables and their conclusions ?
@@zeaybaanoorie528 well ...that is your argument against them. I'm just saying they will criticise Modi because it is Brookings institute which is a leftist think tank
How can your 100 day program be a nonpartisan program when your leader RaghuRam Rajan is a Congress stooge who wanted to be the finance minister if Congress had come to power. 🙄🙄😑😑
I am BJP supporter but removing RaghuRajun Ram was bad decision by Modi. Raghu ram as governor of RBI rightly pointed out that Demonetization would have downside effect of Indian GDP. And he was very right. India lost approximately 1% of its growth due to this madness.
@Zinyak Demonetization destroyed the hawalas and black money dealers. Sure, growth was down, but not for long and even right after demonetization, the Indian economy was still growing at a huge rate that would be the envy of the Western countries. That was the perfect time to try such an experiment- when the Indian as well as the global economy was doing very well. Demonetization would have been suicide if it was implemented during a recession.
@pseudo prophet- Raghuram Rajan was/is an academician/economist from the US who was imported by Manmohan Singh to head the The reserve bank of India. Rajan's successor urjit Patel was also an economist imported from the UK. Both were shown the door by Modi's govt. Nothing much should be expected from such folks even if they were to get into active politics in India
Young people in India hate Rahul Gandhi. A house mate of mine used to call him Oxford fail. There is also this feeling of him being part of a lineage reminding them of a foreigner autocratic past. I am not an Indian and all I say is what I have heard Indian friends say and observe. But if dharma is what this election was about then their are dark years ahead.
Where is Dharma there is no darkness , inequality, and unjust 🙏 and you can't understand or bind Dharma in any regional or racial or religious terms it's impossible ! Dharma can't be understood by people who use to believe in dogmatic and authoritarian belief system
These are jokers who call themselves "experts".
That Milan joker started the session with telling us about the three eras in Indian politics, the last of them being the Mandal Era where people voted for their votebanks along caste and religion lines (though he does not mention "religion" by name).
Then at 1:25:00 he tries to force the point that Indians do not vote along caste and religion lines, and cites us academic papers.
Bhai, ya to tu chutia hai ki 3 eras bataye, ya to humko chutiya bana raha hai by citing spurious papers that deny votebank politics. The whole reason Rahul Gandhi fought from Wayanad and that SP-BSP came together against Modi is that there are votebanks.
You cannot paint everybody living in the West with the same brush because there are racist papers, magazines & channels like Time, New York Times, The Guardian, 'Democracy Now, CNN etc. All Americans are not responsible for them.
@@Iamlatha Nobody painted entire West, only certain jokers. If you have a problem with that, maybe you're one of them.
trifleodd, You are so nasty. You are bad mouthing me for having an opinion. If you can't tolerate other people's opinion, why do you come here & post comments ?
The basic problem is they are educated in another set of parameters, which cannot decipher this phenomenon called the “ Indian Continent”. Like those who wrote extensively about economics of a country they neither lived in nor experienced on their own, and hence, knew nothing about - excepting from some “books” or rather opinions of another alien who saw or surmised what he saw. It’s a typical - wasting time for a living group - who haven’t even been living the philosophy they claim to know so much about. The corporate figures they are taking the help of to judge doesn’t reflect more than - probably - 15% of the economy.
U predicted wrong bcoz u have no connect with ground ppl... BjP always said they will win 300
They even conducted this circus within a day of results, without waiting for any data or deeper analysis. Shows how they were just itching to jump to conclusions. It's easy to see they were hoping for Congress, maybe even funded by Congress sympathizers.
trifleodd, You see things which are not there. Point out one thing that they said wrong.
@@Iamlatha I just pointed it out. He's not only wrong, he contradicts himself. On one hand he talks about "Mandal politics caste votebanks", and then at 1:25:00 he says "Indians don't vote on caste lines". What? Did Pakistanis come and vote in India along caste lines during Mandal Era?
And that's just ONE glaring mistake. There are tens of them. Only the Economist guy gave a balanced view.
trifleodd, He was talking about 2 different elections. Yes, nobody voted on caste lines in this election. Mandal days are different.
Well said khurA
Unless you have been born and lived in India in a poor or middle class family you can never understand or define India. For the westerners it is impossible.
Thesanathani, They never said anything against MOdi or India. You are imagining things.
So what's your point???
Bhakt
There is no need for that. That is simply your insecurity due the colonial past speaking.
@@prasanthalpha well... to me the colonial past is the biggest reason for my...and my folks' (3 generations above me) insecurity... of course the colonial suppression of everything that would have been my identity is big reason for the backwardness of not just me but many like me (and it is not money or whatever goes in the name of education that makes us backward - there is so much that is not palpable that makes or breaks a people... you seem to want to miss that point)... you are oversimplifying your self-expression by saying that there is no need for outsiders to "life the indian experience to understand it"... very disappointing...
Looking at India through the western glasses will never give a correct picture .It is like saying Rice cake for Iddly or Translating Dharma as righteousness.
Exactly!!
Thesanathani: You are very ignorant about foreign experts. They are discussing the economic aspects of the country and not cultural. If you have better analysis then respond accordingly and not confuse the issue..
@@inderjitsoni7616 What else can be expected out of CowBhakts?? They don't even know what the term "Economy" means
you are rude...we have heard these kinda kachra before..it's ok for these dumbs to cry..like time magazine said after elections sorry modi in their own way...we just have tolook our indic values and history , too rich too lovely . Jai Hind . Jai shree RAM.
@@shailenderyadav6874 Yeah look at rich values and history by appointing Cowdung politicians Criminals and Terrorists as Law Makers.
GOOd idea
Love westerners trying to "fix" something that isn't broken
They have been doing it for a long time. The farce facilitates propaganda, intrusion and profits for them.
Yes, the western media is racist. But it is not correct to paint everybody in the West with the same brush.
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Kunaal Uppal lol...good one..I am going to use this😃
Why can't you distinguish principled liberal westerners with bigoted conservative ones?
you cant summarize only one reason for modi victory. balakot,nationalism,decisiveness,electrification,gas cylinder,housing scheme.
poor leadership in opposition,clean india,building toilets all played important role.
Mr.Bhushan ...nd manipulated EVMs to add to the list .
Its only the bhakths who praise his failed schemes ...way to go !!!
@@blueberry82733 well his schemes are seen on the ground not only by bhakts but NDTV also which they mention again and again electrification, gas cylinder, clean india, housing for all toilets
There may be corruption here or there but all these schemes have touched ground.
@@blueberry82733 EVMs are randomly checked random number of times in front of candidates they can't be hacked or manipulated.
Add improvement of railways, highways, waterways, airways also. Infrastructure has improved a lot, specially railways.
Clara Simon .... So EVMs are brilliant when Congress / AAP / pseudoecularists win, like when Congress won 3 state assembly elections recently; but are hacked when BJP wins! That's pure hypocrisy..
At 50:10 the definition of secularism is hilarious... then why are only hindu temples nationalised😂
Here come the "intellectuals" who continue to know nothing about India.
Maybe because they are right?
You are wrong buddy. They know much about India.
@john doe India is a middle class based family business that held the economy even banks of the world are at recession Mainly based on saving Economy not a spending
@john doe I said family bussines and communities which provide employment I am talking about the family who is having a turn over o more minimum 3 L but they never covered in GDP because they never go to bank.
@john doe What is wrong with selling flower and SME that? Should we run our economy by selling arms to extremists? Or letting other countries do our manufacture? Or by running up huge deficits even in peace time? Let these western intellectuals fix the poverty problem in the West first.
No sir ,,BJP was and not now,, never a party of hindi speaking allied party.
I m from bengal and BJP was dormant due to dictators ruling, NAMO changed BJP from dormant to ACTIVE..here..... ..Change ur narrative..
Thnx....
The Sangh believes in Hindi and Hindu as fundamental principles of India.
BJP is also the biggest party in Maharashtra which is not a hindi speaking state and has the Financial Capital of country Mumbai
@@seemaseema9720 Sangh parivar head office is in maharashtra Nagpur ..So as per your logic they should believe in marathi and not hindi
@@seemaseema9720 no they do believe in hindu but not really on hindi
@@rutvikrs hahaha good one😂
What I find so surprising is that Alyssa sounded so more much in touch with ground reality than Eswar Prasad. A discussion at any road corner tea stall would be a lot more insightful than Eswar Prasad's long monologue.
Inflation historical low. GDP grew very well. Per capita income grew. India has become the 6th largest economy from being the 11th in 2014
Modi has done good job in Economics even by maneuvering political opposition who were obstructing.
1) DeMo
2) GST
3) Bankruptcy Code
4) Direct Benifts
5) Opening up Bank Accounts for all
6) ...
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Yes lots more needs to be done.. will take them up one by one on the local interest not on international interest.
Almost Lutyens like assessment, where these simply missed the fact that Rahul was no match against Modiji. They entirely ignored the facts that the economy was indeed doing well, jobs was an exaggerated issue and third Modiji was incorruptible.
But we never vote for a prime minister, we vote for local representatives. You would if you understood the constitution...
@@lazypops3117 Narendra Modi has a very particular policy programs. Both Social and Financial. The Lok Sabha MPs basically endorse his line and people vote for that.
Your argument about this fantasy-land theoretical constitutional guidelines is dumb. People are not myopic, they see the bigger picture, and they always have. Not a new factor.
@@kshitijshrey one single party line cannot fit all constituencies. ideally each representative should speak for their constituents, not fall in line with the dear leader's propaganda.
you may call it fantasy land, but democracy as a popularity contest isn't at all the goal of democracy. and bjp politics has transformed that system into an emotionally manipulative fantasy version of what it should be
I don't think you hear the whole video
Yeah typical westards
Toilets and cooking gas for rural women you can not see sitting in those comfortable chairs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They appreciated it. Learn some English to understand that.
@@Iamlatha You are delusional. Most of them didn't know where their next meal was going to come from. You people worry about where to order your next meal.
Neither you nor the panelists will ever understand what it's like for rural women to have access to clean cooking gas, public toilets and bank accounts.
@@Iamlatha who the hell are you to act as their mouthpiece. I have seen your didactic comments many times . Why don't you get your ass outta here ?
@@Iamlatha Yeaa bafoon 😂😂
@@Iamlathait seems you need to go through the English classes again dear 😂
before election : Modi would not be re-elected.
after election : It was expected that Modi would be re-elected.
"before election : Modi would not be re-elected."
said no one ever with half a brain.
Even BJP didn’t think Modi would be able to get the amount of seats be got. Proof is Gadkari’s name being thrown out there in the ring for PM and Modi’s mann ki baat press conference, if you even want to call it that.
@@M20-z4j I don't think so , Amit Shah had given a statement way before that we would score 300+this time, and so did BJP. It wasn't just Modi, Shah and to some extent Rahul were also responsible
Not sure what you are trying to say. What i’m saying is going by BJP’s body language in last phase they were surprised. Both political parties spent money on their own opinion polls to see which way voters were going. And, its very aafe to assume voters surprised everyone.
@@M20-z4j MP, Maharashtra, Gujrat and UP are already BJP strong holds so I don't see any reason to be surprised that they won. though I agree even BJP wouldn't have thaught they would get so many. At some places congress got shocked because they underestimated their opponents.
Modi will completely change India and the west will be surprised beyond measure. Look at the past of Hindu India. It was the wealthiest, Most dynamic, Powerful, full of wisdom, etc before it was destroyed by islamic invaders ,the English East India company and then the British rule and the congress which was a continuation of the same. . It has shaken off these things under Modiji.
Modi got reelected because
1. He is honest, comes from a humble background, hard working
2. He has the courage to choose what is good for India rather than a specific vote bank
3. He represents true nationalist and democratic values
4. Poor class people problem were addressed and steps were taken to raise their income
5. He united indians in India and abroad
6. He put India in super power path
7. He screwed the family dynasty rule of congress who are bootlickers of imperialists
8. PM designation is earned nor inherited
9. Food inflation index very low
10. Inflation rate controlled
11. Revived economy with demonitisation
12. Kicked the asses of terrorist countries
13. Did not break in pressure
14. Restored indian values and heritage that was mutilated by britishers and mughal rule
15. He is spiritual not religious so all sections of the society admired him
16. He brought out the real faces of anti nationals and sold medias like NDTv etc
17. He is patriotic
18. Digitalised economy and introduced framework model that world can adopt
19. Did not succumb to western media critic rather focused on development of india
20. And many more
Honest is a strong word
Youth unemployment, farmer suicides, all due to Modi's govt
Unemployment is due to protest. Remember sterlite closure and kia motors shifting to andhra. Its all because of DMk. Farmer suicide is false. They have been well compensated by govt. Their suicide is due to unauthorized money lending by mafias handled by DMK.
Some pointa are right but some are wrong like domenetisation and forced and early implementation of GST ruined economy( GST shld hv come phase wise) and digitisation began around 2011 with and it was planned by the excutives around 2008 .not govt....upa govt of around 2008 was doing nothing ..
These are so called experts 😂😂😂
15 years old kid from UP has more knowledge of politics from y'all combined in this room.
The easiest summation could be, "We did not quite understand, we predicted wrong, and we still do not understand. But we do not like what we see!"
The shampein elite western journalism even don't understand India how could they can talk of Indian democratic process.....
Lol
They think whatever America has policies or laws, every country has it. This is a typical dystopia these left-wing liberals have around the globe, that's why they want to save the world by destroying it....
prem gahlout Why do you say this? No one on the panel is a journalist.
@@alyssaayres9572 even if they were they are completely unaware of their own society that's why they were predicting the defeat of Trump and can't digest the rise of the right wing politics and nationalism and so for them it is post truth..........that means all the loosers of the world assembled together and declared all those things as post truth which they don't want to accept as truth'.
Should I demonstrate my disappointment about these highly "academically" educated panelists who missed the most important point about why Modiji won in 2014 and went on to win again in 2019 and perhaps will win again in 2024: "IDENTIFICATION" ........This word has not been mentioned even once in this discussion. You did not get it, I know. Let me explain. A man identifies himself with another whom he believes will identify with himself. So, when this simple man who struggled throughout his life, selling tea at train stations as a child helping his parents who, then, despite not having attended western universities, lifts a state like Gujarat to unimaginable heights, the man on the street starts to wonder and says to himself..."someone like me was capable of such achievement" !!! That means like someone like me also has "value". Then he suddenly realizes that this great man speaks in a local language rather the language of those who oppressed and looted his country while the "other" politicians adopt the language of those who oppressed them for centuries and finally broke the country and created havoc. These thoughts build up into an explosion that finally transforms the layman into a follower of the one with whom they identify as their own, as their idol, as their hero. And when that hero gives them and their women cooking gas, toilets, electricity and starts empowering them, make them open bank accounts, encourages them to use technology for bank dealings, they realize the extent to which English speaking politicians had been crushing them for decades under their feet making them feel like filth while they, as well, could have easily walked the path of progress. That is why Modiji won and if he delivers as he has been delivering, he will win again and again. His victory has very little to do with economy, employment or terrorist neighbors. IDENTIFICATION.
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They will never understand this. Maybe they can understand when modi wins 2029 as well
You got it my friend. only I no longer identify HIM as a mere mortal
"Kaun hain ye Log ? Kahan se ate hain ?"
After hearing them i feel serious doubt about listening to "experts". Its just a club where nerds convince themselves they understood everything.
Mr Milan says at 46:20 and I quote "Dynastic succession is great so far it allows for easy transition". Its so pathetic to see him trying to defend his patrons the Vadra family. #boycottLutyensMedia
But this isn't Lutyens.. it is international.
sameer yadav yes of course its great! He should now go ahead to suggest that to Western countries as a solution to choosing their candidates.
@@ssn90 if only bhakts had logic
@Just another geek can you tell me what indian right wing ideology is, Einstein?
@@ikahccbr yup,Bhakt logic is far superior than that of chamchas and bong "aantel" (pseudo intellectual) commies as far as I am concerned as an Indian and as a Bengali!!
Muslims chose for India after voting for Muslim league is something that should be stated as a fact.
Both Shi'a & Ahmeddiyas voted for ML too.
@GamingzoneOh right ,that's why the Muslims demanded for an Islamic Nation because it was the Hindu's ,who are paranoid and apathetic towards Muslims . *slow claps*
@Bramha's Astra doesnt mean they are not patriotic fellow indians.
@Bramha's Astra now they even waanna join the forces just to eat it from the inside . The forces are way out of their league . They know how to turn them into real patriots . I have seen many Muslims in the Indian Air Force and they are beautiful people because they have been trained to love their country . All Indian Muslims aren't that bad but some are . Those who are bad should meet justice . Those Hindus who are bad should also get justice . Everybody bad should get justice now .
Arm chair intellectuals discussing about the extremely complex society but a determined mind to bring back the strong leader.
Bunch of buzz words, cliches, waste of time to watch.
I laugh when i see these bookish intellectuals debating about a country whose culture they donot understand and moreover on a country in which they donot live....
Lol
peace-it-is well your intellect doesn’t come close to any of those people so I don’t think anyone gives a damn about your poor criticism
They are on point indeed watch the entire video
Yes...they talk sense and very close to Indian developments.
Totally agree...these guys look at India but dont understand it.
I agree
"Expert" opinion is not always the best opinion
yea RSS pracharak should work for ISRO with their "RAW INTELLIGENCE"
Bookish folks, with no clue of current India (these folks only know India through some books may be, and may be visitors a few times).
This just isn’t true.
They may be friends with Rajdeep, Sagarika and Barkha types of
Don't worry, you can always come to india and fix your western messed upness...we will always be atithi devo bhava.
No no NO! An absolute NO! India is still suffering from the days we treated the British imperialists as our guests and even sold them all our homes, belongings, wife and children. Indians should be the ones civilizing barbaric Westerners.
Sorry man...Indian hear but your thoughts are wrong...You don't know or get the feel of what is governance means unless you don't get our of India.You speak with a patriotic heart but not with your head. I respect your patriotism.
That was for ubuntuber
It’s interesting how all of the panelists keep saying minority and inclusiveness, tells me how you all have so missed the point. An academic discussion but not close towards understanding the Indian mind. Also many relevant points, thanks for that
These nri babus watched too much ndtv...
I don’t
@@nishchaysrivastava6251 comment was not directed at you..
Surya I know just saying that I’m an nri too but through and through modi bhakt
@@nishchaysrivastava6251 ok
What should they watch ? Republic tv ?
10:19 I will save you months of data for the answer, people remember how congress government performed before, and recognize how new government under Modi is performing now. Also many compared experienced Modi with Rahul who is still not as mature and has no credibility. When you put a choice like peanuts or pizza, people would always choose pizza.
Or, maybe there is a new class of young voter who grew of age after 2008 when all they've seen of Congress is it's non response to 2008 attack, the financial crisis, followed by the slew of scandals too many to list. For them, history began in 2014 and it has been good going throughout.
The point I'm trying to make here sir, is to always remain humble and open to the possibility of another explanation for a phenomenon. Instead of, you know, arrogantly declaring the true gospel which only one knows.
@@PrabhavShukla1 before 2008 also congress wasn't doing any good.
Young people voted for Modi because they are more educated and have access to social media... They were able to see that Congress didn't do the job of developing India in past 70 years.
So obviously Modi did a lot and definitely deserved a second term.
You're are wrong I'm from Mumbai And voters who voted for Modi had only one thing in their mind Ram Mandir
@@junaidkhan-vz5br I think it's the ability of the party to manipulate people into believing whatever they tell them to, and seeing only what the party wants them to see. RAM MANDIR WAS A NEWS OF JUST ONE WEEK.
The party also has a fan base and an IT cell which passed on alot of fake news and hatred material against opposition parties on whatsapp and social media..which was another big way off getting people's minds manipulated.
@@kshitizdewani3786 ua-cam.com/video/VkDC5AoC6LA/v-deo.html
@@junaidkhan-vz5br Modi didn't even talk about Ram Mandir in this campaign as opposed to 2014.
In fact opposition brought up Mandir to denigrate Modi then BJP itself.
In any case it'll be build by 2020 and settle the issue once and for all, coz SC can't keep delaying the inevitable.
@@PseudoProphet ha nice joke you know very well how politics played did Hitler killed any Jews by his hand no but his party workers cleary did
Modi is seen as a person who is decisive and willing to take decision which others may or may not like, be it Demonetisation, Goods and Services Act, The Insolvency Code, The Aadhar No ( Unique Identity)something like the Social Security No, and as one who would fight corruption without making exceptions. He is also acceptable to the Hindu Majority but who is not entirely committed to that Identity. The country also feels that he is keen to equip the Armed Forces with the hardware it requires urgently. He is seen as one who breaks the mould of a Laid back easy going PM.
Jagarlapudi.V. Suryanarayana Don’t forget Dokhlam and the way China was dealt with
You sir, are a certified indiot.
Which corruption case he resolved and punished..whom ?????
Come out of fekunomics.
A person should be judged on his decisions and not his decisiveness.
I've Crush on Tim look how secure Muslims are
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1:04:48 Vajpayee never called Indira Gandhi, Maa Durga. He was misquoted by the media, which was never retracted. Please see this video
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@Take Care Yes indeed. Watch this @ 1:12
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THANKS india for choosing MODI he was the best for india.
But now we must force the government to implement land and labour laws and have a written national defence strategy.
Economic reforms are a must for higher growth rate.
he IS the best
Are you kidding me ? You are far from reality.
@Sukhi Hanjra You are one of those typically brainwashed people.
@@artman7780
Typical brainwashed and modi supporter hmm.
@Sukhi Hanjra Sorry, but you can’t be brainwashed to support Modi; you have to do it yourself out of your free will. The right does not brainwash people like the leftists.
we will no more waste out time and energy by talking about about Pakistan . May be the west wan ts it to be a constant thorn on the body politic of India
It is worthy to note that the GDP of Pakistan equals to GDP of Indian state of Tamil Nadu (~260B). The rough equivalence is Mexico vs. New York.
Who are these political "theorists" (I call them theorists and not scientists because they make only conjectures without any evidence) who don't have an iota of idea of what is going on in the ground? How do you become panelists here and claim to call yourselves "distinguished"?
By research. Go look them up before you call them out. They accepted themselves they didn’t see it coming. So whats the point in saying the same thing in another way?
@shri If you would care to listen to them they themselves claimed they didn't see it coming and would like to understand it in the time to come. The argument you are making is if Kohli is the best batsman in Cricket then he should always score. How about you quit your job and do what they are doing full time and see if you can do it better?
@shri thats not what I'm saying. You have every right to voice your opinion. But, remember the way you have every right to voice your opinion others (Like me) also have the same right to show you how flawed your logic is. Your boss at work just doesn't tells you you did wrong, they also tell you why. Similarly, academics study real world and then come up with models but those models don't always predict everything. And, when that happens if we say they are dumb that just makes us look stupid unless we provide a better model or a tweak to the existing model. Again, everyone is allowed to voice their opinions stupid or otherwise. Like, I can say there is no gravitational force and it's actually Modi force.
@shri no one is judging our country they r just stating facts, if u have doubts go check it or do research by yourselves,have some class bro jeez
what kind of negative debate it is ...i hear only negativity in this debate ...only butthurt ....it feels like someone is dead and condelence meeting going on ....india is still fastest growing major economy yeah there are some worrying sectors ..but this debates idea is all about sadness ...
Truth is always bitter lol.
@@ayushnair3587 says the racist 😂
How much I Know Karnataka and West Bengal are not counted in Hindi belt.
Tanmoy Samanta
Correct and neither are Gujarat and Maharashtra or Assam
@@cherishgp or even Goa.. forgot north east lol
shhh... Let the truth not come in front of your narrative.
Not Arunachal Pradesh either. There r hardly Hindus there, just the one who go their for work and business. I lived there for 10 years so...
Neither are Maharashtra, Gujarat, Assam etc
Miss White lady... Do you know F16 was shot by MiG21 before pilot down in Pakistan..
It wasn’t lol
She knows Pakistani pilot was worst F16 pilot. She also knows Indian muslims voted for creation of pakishitan but never went there.
I didn't feel that there was discussion with ground knowledge. Ground realities are different. My English is not great but this discussion was not deep...only surface level discuss. You could have got good political discussion at any barber shop in India....may be not with great presentation but ground level knowledge. And believe me , I'm not being over the top.
If your english is poor, how can you judge the conversation?
sorry ..very sub standard discussion
Do Hindu Rashtar extremists have high standards? Why do Hindu Rashtar extremists rip open mothers womb with trishul to kill unborn child as stated by Hindu hero Babu Bajrangi? Why Hindus burnt alive Two little kids Australian Graham steins? Shameless cowards are you from the Riots Shikshan Sanstha RSS. Stop killing innocent scholars like Dr Pansare Dr Kalburgi and Gauri lankesh. Throw your stones in Arabian sea don't worship them
@@gurindersingh8109 like some people showing ass to canadian masters??
@@gurindersingh8109 Man enough with the hatred.
These well fed intellectuals keep forgetting that there is a rural India for which Modi has done much work... He has touched poor people of the country n therefore people have given him another chance to improve their life...
Unless he fondled the poor people's junks, I don't see how he touched the poor people of India.
@@ikahccbr u can't coz u wear blindfold of being a darbari...
@@151samm just answer the question instead of going the typical bhakt way of insulting others. What exactly did he do for the poor people of the country?
@@ikahccbr I won't because I want ur entitled darbari ass to do it's own research... If u r really r are incompetent then say please n I might think of helping ur entitled ass...
@RapistAndFalse ProphetMuhammed I actually live in a village. So I was really curious about his answer.
The only thing modi did was to get Ambanis to put a few Jio towers around here, so you cannot ignore spastics like him even in the remotest corners of India.
As the great modern day satire writer Kansara has put it::
"What do you see in the room, Chaubey?"
*the elephant in the room expectantly poses, showing off his tusks*
"The roof."
"Roof? Don't you see anything obviously different, Chaubey?"
*the elephant expectantly raises his trunk*
"The fan, obviously. Who needs one in an AC room?"
"Fan, Chaubey? Bow your bloody head down, your highness, and look around."
*the elephant dances excitedly"
"Window. It lets in sunlight during the day."
"Yes, Chaubey. Very smart. What else do you see?"
*the elephant plays garba in the room*
"TV without Netflix. Unusual."
"Brilliant, Chaubey! Can't you see anything big enough that's blocking your view?"
*the elephant slaps Chaubey*
"Clock."
"I said big and blocking your view."
*the elephant grows angry and trumpets noisily*
"The clock is big and blocking the view of a lizard behind it."
"You can see the lizard behind the clock but not what's in front of you?"
*the elephant calls in his sister, shrinking the room*
"Sofa."
"Well, Chaubey, I'll waste my time down South with rationals & literates."
*the elephants grow bigger, almost crushing Chaubey*
"Tiles." /
This was too good
Can anyone explain 😅😅😅
@@S4sent South rationals and literates? stupid irrational jerks that send their wives to temples for proxy punya; and uneducatable masses half of which think movie stars are gods and the other half, that expects world to bow down to them because their ancestors were great 5/10/50k years ago
U libturds, u just think that half the world is delusional, isn't it? What a sorry way to live!
BTW the joke was good, gonna use it to explain the situation of librandus like you.
Modi coming in 2024 too with 350+ seats..
From Ex sickular voter..
no right no left only pro bharat and presntly bjp is the right party for it
USA and ruaia mostly run their economies on war instruments and technology which are more beneficial earnings..
But in india mostly on hard work and natural resources and agriculture...
India should independent on war materials and technology...
modi after 5 round predicted BJB 300+
You want a more open india???...so that capitalism of the Us can destroy it? No thanks...india is way different from the Us...you should not apply the same parameters u apply to America on Bharat...
so true
Irony!
Overall a very good discussion unlike the discussions going on some of the mainstream foreign media. Panelist tried to look at the issue more objectively with facts and present stats. To my surprise, Elissa was very knowledgeable about the policies and scheme laid out by BJP on grass root level which you rarely see among foreign Journalists who only likes to portray Modi as some evil person. Most of the elitists in India hate him because they just can't comprehend a person not so literate is calling shots for the country. Whatever he does for the good of public is seen as propaganda by them. Modi may not have a Harvard degree under his belt but he is lot more familiar to ground realities in India. He didn't perform well on all the fronts but good enough to warrant another term in governance. Meanwhile, opposition needs to take a long hard look at themselves and what do they stand for. Because without good opposition in parliament, BJP may not strive for further betterment. I think BJP can continue its progressive work in the country for next 5 years without indulging in cheap politics. Good luck to them!!
Dumbass
Good discussion. Impressed with Elissa.candid, thoughtful comments. Milind ? was thorough .
@@pradeepspace who's a dumbass?
If presiding over murders of countless people doesn’t make you evil not sure what else does. Modi is as unfit as Trump and this has nothing to do with their policies. They don’t have a policy of their own, its rather driven largely by their ideology which they share with a lot of their party men. The first speaker put it aptly. Elections are a matter of perception, and fact of the matter is Modi has way better image than anyone else in India at the moment. But that doesn’t mean he’s a saint or best guy for the job. A godse loving candidate wins while someone who worked for the betterment of people loses to a candidate who has zero experience in governance. Now, if that doesn’t highlights how irrational human beings are i’m not sure what else will. Don’t make the same mistake you accuse liberals of making. Its too generic to say people who voted for Modi like him for what he has done for India, just like its too naive to say whatever Modi does is good for India. His tenure is filled with mistakes, sending jets under the cover of clouds against the advice of his generals is one such example.
@@M20-z4j M 20 Are you even serious??? First of all, Politician say stupid things all the time to gain the confidence of masses no matter how ludicrous. Here's the link to video...
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Where the so called Erudite, snobbish and sophisticated Mr Rahul Gandhi made one of the most preposterous accusations which had fundamental flaws. (Go check it out. It's funny as hell). Don't get me wrong I am certainly not defending Modi's theory by making other one look stupid. What I am trying to say is that his 'Cloud' comment is blown out of proportion to belittle his vernacular background and how he is unfit to lead the country.
Secondly, how can you even have temerity to put the blame of killings in gujrat riots (I assume you are talking about Gujrat riots) on Modi's soldier. If you're from India then you would know how complex these issues have been for decades if not hundreds of years. I would have understood if you said that his actions might not have helped placate the issues in large. But saying he was the sole to blame for the enormity is bit far-fetched. (Right now I am starting to believe you know nothing about India but anyway)
I will make your life easier. If you are hell bent on comparing with global "misfits" then for me he bears more resemblance to ERDOGAN. Trump is loathed by voters at this point in time who voted for him whereas Modi has not just retained his voters but also made new ones. (You didn't even do that right M20)
Well on Godse thing. Going back to my earlier point, just like you made Modi reprehensible for Gujrat riots. Most of the Indians have now realized that if not for Gandhi's/Neherus, millions of Hindu/Muslim/Sikhs would never have been murdered and they are right to think so. I am not in anyway saying they would do anything deliberately but they certainly didn't have foresight to see the brewing problems beforehand. They also have their fair share of blame. (At this point I know you know jackshit about indian history but I would still go on..)
You said a Godse lover won against someone who was working for the betterment of society. I would also hate someone who would win vote in name of someone else and having no clue about socioeconomic issues but let me tell you something. You know who has always thrived on dynastic politics. Yes it's the Congress. I know u only know winning candidates from BjP who has no experience in politics but you would be surprised to find out how many newbies Congress fielded this time. When I say newbie I mean Congress members sons/nephew/wives. They lost so u probably won't know them but had they won what would you say then.???
It is not correct to say that Modi did not push reform:
1) GST made India into a single market for goods and along with DeMo helped documentation and formalization of the economy. Those small businessmen that cane in the tax net for the first time and those that benefited from corruption around octroi/VAT were the losers.
2) Bankruptcy law has visibly put crooked promoters on the defensive and put creditors in the driving seat. Clearly the promoters who treated bank loans as quasi equity were the losers.
3) Direct benefit transfer bypassed many middlemen and put money directly in the hands of the beneficiaries. Obviously the middlemen were the losers.
4) Monetary policy reform and inflation targeting were very successful in stamping out 5 years of double digit inflation
5) Improving ease of doing business where India’s ranking improved from 142-77. In achieving this result, business process streamlining, policy streamlining, automation : all had a role to play. This means that many mid level functionaries lost the case by case decision making authority and associated bribes
6) FDI reform - There has been major reform in what areas there can be FDI (defense), how much FDI can be brought in (insurance) and the approvals needed to bring it in (FIPB has been dismantled). Again case by case decision makers in government as well as associated fixers in private sector would be the losers.
7) RERA- RERA has put the power in the hands of retail home owner and put an end to the unfair practices of many builders who were the obvious losers. Also the greater formalization of the economy has reduced the black money in the system and the home prices have become more affordable
8) Financial inclusion - Jan Dhan Yojana, MUDRA yojana, Atal Pension yojana have dramatically improved financial inclusion. Unified payment interface and payment banks have cut down cost if transactions dramatically and increased digital financial transactions even fir small value transactions.
In addition there has been a dramatic improvement in pace of infrastructure development and service delivery to the poor and disenfranchised regardless of their caste, religion or language. This improves opportunity for all.
Very good, thank u
And what about farmers, unemployment (under employment), securities of minorities, weakness of big institution, ideology, happiness index,
Akash Singh
1) Farmer distress is due to decades of underinvestment. BJP is trying to improve it by accelerating investments in irrigation, food parks, issuing over 16 crore soil health cards to improve productivity, improving the share if farm to fork revenue a farmer gets through e-NAM. If things for farmers had gotten worse under BJP, do you think they would have got such a heavy mandate?
2) India does not have good reporting on unemployment as it only collects numbers on those employed in formal sector. BJP is trying to correct this by developing such a report. Underemployment is a reality in India but it has by no means been aggravated under BJP. In fact the rapid infrastructure buildout, growing hospitality industry, aggressive roll out of service to rural India have created many real jobs. MUDRA loans have created income opportunities for many such as Ola/Uber drivers; delivery boys for Amazon, Flipkart, Swiggy; beauty parlors etc.
3) There were no riots throughout Modi government 2014-19. Reporting local crimes against Muslims aggressively while observing strategic silence about crimes against Hindus, a false narrative has been sought to be built about minorities under attack. Actual trends in crime between 2009-14 and 2014-19 do not support that narrative
Dr D. Natarajan If there were riots, they could have been cited. Not possible to cite source for ‘no riots’. While Akhlaq has been imprinted in collective memory, no one remembers Ankit Tiwari who was beheaded by a Muslim mob because he married a Muslim girl. While everyone remembers Pehlu Khan, no one remembers Paresh Meesta. The list goes on...
@@cherishgp Man u r a grt writer bt u r only inclined on one side, ur cmplt analysis don't show any data , u r just talking like leader (neta) who hv collection of words in his pocket. I won't say 16th Lok sabha govt did nothing bt there is qus... is everything happened in last five years is building a strong democratic country.
Nd u can't kill a man for cow there is lots of another kind of punishment. #disclaimer:- I'm the big fan of leadership like our PM
The tall guy had no idea what he is talking about called himself economists no wonder he is friend with Raghuram , demonization was a political cost but he skip that part ...
Was not. Give me one positive outcome of demonetisation
@@prat391 you need to understand economic first ..for last 10 yr indian gdp was growing rapidly but the taxes net was not growing ...means people are getting rich but govt is getting no taxes and unable to complete our budget and had to take loan from world bank our fiscal deficit was above 5% ...all because people have business in black form ...thanks to demonetization that black system is collape no more loophole ....now people have to go through proper channel ,register gst and the taxes net has risen ....yes the black system has collape and the growth has suffer but it had to be done ....in America 53 % people taxes in India only 2% ..the tax to Gdp ratio in eruope is upto 50 % and in india its around 16% ....with more taxes govt can complete it's budget and give benefits like Heath insurance for poor up to 5 lakh ...no direct tax on earning up to 5 lakh
@@indiarocks5731 Good points, but I wish the government had come out with a comprehensive white paper on the same. Raghuram and many others were opposed to the de-monetization, they claimed there were more efficient ways to increase tax & banking penetration.
Please don't put Raguram Rajan in the same boat with many other U.S. based economists. He is honest & decent chap unlike many others who take insane amt of money from lobby.
@@ssn90 if so why did not tax net not increased in last 10yr nobody had the political will.. govt came up with the amnesty scheme ..where you can declare black properties claim sum percentage of it and become the part of tax net ..I think the last date was 31July of that yr . .only people opposition Demonetisation are the one benefitting from it some way or other
@@indiarocks5731 yes you may be right.. that is why I say government should come out with white paper in the near future. Till now most people are confused whether it was curbing terrorism or general black money or increasing tax net.
As you say, tax is a big problem. 2-3 years back, 1 crore people filed tax returns but with zero tax.
As an Indian I read the comments and understood that the discussion is not worth watching🙏
Give the guy on the far right a medal. He was spot on. The guy in the middle was too focussed on economics.
We need a educated pm like modi
Inko bhi dhakka laga hai PM Modi k vapas aane ka😂
योगिता नाखरे 😂😂😂💪🙏
Burnol effect 😂
Fact is people voted *NDA to power the second time not on the basis of caste, creed or religion, but on the development agenda and social upliftment initiatives" taken by the ruling government which reached maximum number of people.Those *voters/beneficiaries came out in large number and exercised their franchise as a gesture of gratitude to the party in power.*
And, where did you get this fact from? Did people also put the reason why they were voting for BJP? There is not NDA btw, BJP didn’t need it in 2014, it doesn’t need them now.
Eeshwar "We can't see delivery (Modi schemes) and there is no vision".
Typical Coconut (Brown on the outside, White on the inside type argument.
This after it is the beneficiaries of the Modi Govt schemes have voted enmasse for BJP.
Coconuts don't know ground reality.
Haha the coconut analogy cracked me up 🤣😂🤣 which is so true
piyush goyal is a CA and is prefered candidate for finance minister
Do Bandar ( goyal and swami ) ki ladai mein billi ( Nirmala) hath mar gayi
Wrong on so many levels, you should not measure India on western scales, its an amalgamation of invisible chaos and stability to say the least. I have been living here for over 12 years and still fail to gasp the psychology of something happening in a neighboring state. Also BJP is not a party confined to 'Hindi hinterlands', it has voices around the South, West, Northern hills and in North-eastern parts of India where people share a very different racial demography; again asserting my opinion that common sense does not apply while analyzing India on social or political fronts.
People believe in Modi and BJP over other parties, surprised these panelists are unaware of this.
I have heard Trump praise India's negotiating skills that is benefiting India. I see more of this to happen in the coming years. The talent from Indian's all over the world is ready to offer its support for the good of India, led by Modi. This may provide unstoppable momentum to the fastest growing economy.
Son of A Bitch Western Media
This election was indeed fought on nationalism and nation security issues primarily unlike 2014 when it was anti corruption and pro developement. The critical issues or what the panelist called 'laundry list' was simply kept off the shelf. Leadership knew how and when to strike gold and rallied behind the Modi juggernaut. The one thing this government has managed well is image projection and 'manufactured consent' bit.
Overall this was a good, balanced discussion. Some fair points, subtle remarks and constructive criticism. Milan was particularly spot-on
@john doe I don't believe in 'no alternative' but yes this election turned out that way. RahulG is not even worthy opponent to his own minions, forget anyone else.
The point essentially was about campaign theme. Public memory is short, they remember an effective sales pitch not necessarily access it. If it presses the right buttons, that's it. Congress failed miserably even on that front. Prime Minister has done just that and Shahji has ensured flawless delivery.
"Sabka Saath, Sabka Vikaas, Sabka Vishwaas." That's what PM has said and that's what is needed.
@john doe I get a feeling you want to put words in my mouth. I guess I already said what I intended. Whether it's ridiculous or sensible, just an opinion among billions. It wont matter either way.
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Modi 1.0
did GST, Bankruptcy Law ,inflation target & cleaning up of banks as formidable financial changes.. swach bharat was deep psyche change..
Modi 2.0
Did farm & labour laws but were vetoed by certain state which make it religious issue where as intellectual who did advocacy on people were having same laws in their home country..
Now to modi's success he did manage to sail through pandemic wars & keep economy as good as it could be..
But in Modi 3.0
We want him to do Gujarat 3.0 like he did double digit growth we want him to do that for atleast decade.. he need to go for big ticket reform & recourse our country to take on china although thats 2-3 decade thereafter.. aggressive capatalism with MSMEs will be the only way forwad.. to fund socialism (healthcare & education) we need investment (capitalism)
Pride in India is not the same as Indian Nationalism. Hindus had always been inclusive and we had Muslim Presidents, Vice Presidents, Corpse Commanders and equivalent Ranks in other arms who served with distinction, Chief Justices and Muslims of all shades, Wahabis, Deobandis, Sunnis, Shias of all shades and Ahmadiyas live in India without any friction.
False.Islam has nothing to do with Indian culture or history. It was forced into India by barbarian invaders from the middle east. Stop worshipping Middle Easterners and Whites and kissing their boots.
Yes.. But we are struggling to hide that this is how 200+ million muslims live everyday. Video from 1 day after Modi won Elections: twitter.com/i/web/status/1131960285374193664
@Chirag Patel So you are saying you are okay turning into someone you hate just in the name of your Hindu ego. What some Islamic leaders are doing today is clearly poisonous. How does replicating that is a good move. Its like saying a failed state printed a lot of money, let us do that too.
Indian Muslims are Indians first. We are brothers as Indians and instead of trying to heal the increasing gap between Muslims and Hindus we should work to heal the wounds from the past.
If I wanted to see NDTV I would watch NDTV .
Please be original 🙏
This is directed to a foreign audience.
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NDTV is Worst Indian Channel run by Glorified Pimps and Prostitutes of Congress Party.
@@dr.sachidulalchanda3134 you know that's the only channel owned and run by journalists right? Zee news, republic TV, news18 all these channel where our supreme leader shows his face are either owned by Ambanis or BJP mps. So technically speaking. They are the pimps and whores of BJP.
NDTV ❌
RANDI TV✔
Just letting you all know that Modi will do it all, economic reforms in terms of labor and land reforms and get rid of the red tapes... He will also do huge social reforms and benefits... He'll also continue building infrastructure... And he won't bow down to China.
Now because he'll do it all at once you won't be able to get the results that you expect... But it'll still be far far better than what it was before.
I absolutely agree with you buddy :)
@john doe hire and fire is already the norm for a large section of our society...which runs informal sector... These are the people that need jobs... They'll accept it...coz it's better than nothing... And to be honest the BJP has so complete control over the Media now that they can spin almost anything.
@john doe hahaha you didn't get my point... I'm saying changing labor law doesn't hurt as many people as you think... And it can be done in phases. One sector at a time... starting with manufacturing.
These so called expert talk reminds me of simple Indian village folks discussing how some complex machine like Rocket or Airplane works - Absolutely clueless with hilarious consequences’ . A perfect example of snake oil sellers- These self declared experts are professionals who make a living out of their clueless expertise
Abhijit Banerjee is the piece of work who worked out that monstrosity called NYAY = Pay People To Sit At Home. To fund that he proposed taxes to be raised upto 70%. So this Eashwar guy who is part of the RRR , Abhijit Banerjee gang is a strict No No for any Indians.
Abey ro kyun rahe ho. Should BJP not win ? Should Congress rule for eternity using seal of Nehru ?
I feel sad for students who are getting scammed by this institution in the name of knowledge.
Are we done with the tropes " Modi is a tyrant", "Modi is bad", "Modi is a Nazi".... focus on why he won and how INC is corrupt. How can india improve and bring people out of poverty?????
Outaded and biased view on Indian polity. You could do better Brookings
They can't do better. They will keep seeing everything with their fucked up lens. These assholes and sepoys in the west think they have a moral highground on us Indians. The Brits cooked up false cases of social justice as an excuse to allow church to enter and start conversions in the sub continents.
Lady, please note that Hindutva is not a "religion" aimed at overwhelming indian minority communities (Muslims, Christians, others).
It is instead an "inclusive & collaborative "way of life" that goes way back 5000 years of "Sanaatanaa Dharma" of ancient Bhaarat (India)
History bears mute testament that Islamic invaders and European colonists have Brutally exploited this magnanimous and inclusive culture of Hindutva to meet their agendas
India everything bad ....India everything bad...India voted against this pessimism....
This so-called secular/communist/socialist institution, when gives so much importance to AAP (which BTW never won one election on its own, except in Delhi, since its inception or rather I'd say after all of AAP candidates factually lost their deposits everywhere else except in Delhi) giving so much importance to this urban naxal movement called AAP, which now definitively seems to a thoughtful Indian, that AAP is formed by Vatican and communists/socialists/seculars by funding AAP through CIA/Ford Foundation/Shimrit Lee by design to destroy Hindu identity of India!
A big win for democracy!
Indeed... Highest percentage of voter turn out with 67%.. miles ahead of torch bearer of democracy USA!!! Whos voter turn out was at 55%
In 1947 “sons of the soil” were at bottom of pit and “sons of Macaulay (founder of Indian Education Act 1835)” were at the peak of rise....now history is changing son of the soil is “Modi” and son of Macaulay is “Pappu”...what a change we are looking now, waiting for centuries to happen.
So cloud theory does not make you pappu anymore?
38:14 Rakesh Zunzunwalla popularly know as Indian Warren Buffett few months back said that " Modi is a socialist and therefore he wants to distribute the Pie; but Modi is also a capitalists so he also knows that the Pie must be made larger so everyone can have it."
Yes, i did hear that comment. The socialist is not really Modi though. Its actually RSS. And, Modi’s capitalism is crony at best just like congress. Look at Ambanis, Adanis prospering under him. Gujju bhai always look out for another gujju, thats a universal trait of gujjus.
These people are mostly discussing based on info released in foreign press. They have no true sense of the changes in social, economical structure being brought by Modi and his govt.
The magnitude of vctory was thanks to the Campaign style of Opposition Congress that courted Minority Identity politics at the last minute.There was already a undercurrent of switch to a Cultural Nationalism of hindutva away from Nehruvian Secular Nationalism and this bad move by Sonia Gandhi to appeal openly for a Anti Majority and Minority Appeasing mandate backfired on the Hindu majority that was actually considering support to Rahul Gandhi who was endorsing a Pro Hindu soft Hindutva image.This was the fatal mistake that lead to a massive hinedu backlash.
Even otherwise I didn't see Congress with great chances.
My friend, do you even know what secularism is? Political parties are known to make calls to vote based on religion and i don’t think you can objectively separate bjp from congress. Bashing Nehru is a fashion in our country now. Give me one logical reason why India of pre-independence and after chose to go with Congress (not Congress of today) and not the likes of savarkars? All the leaders we like to praise like Sardar patel joined congress in stead of Nagpur RSS brigade along with millions of Indians who followed Gandhi. Why was that?
@@M20-z4j Why? Because they were Guilt Trapped by Godse' s thoughtless killing of Gandhi.Hindu Mahasaba was actually rising up like BJP ion the 90s in the early 1940s and most hindus could see Gandhi was very insensitive to hindu suffering in the hands of Muslim League.Gandhi is on record asking hindu women who came to him and told of their rapes to grit their teeth and let the rape and wash the feet of rapists with tears.If any leader spoke like this today Feminists in the world will rise such a storm that he would be shamed from public life. Yet here you go yap on secularism and the Socialist mania of Nehru that plunged India into poverty for half a century as if he is some angel; which was the fashion of duffers of the past.This is 21rst century and here is Putin who explains how a nation must work. 'It is the Minority that needs Russia and not Russia that needs the minority.we will NOT bend our laws to sharia'. Now you yap again India is Secular. It is NOT as long as you have Separate laws based on Religion. First see if you can make India truly Secular by having Uniform Civil Code and not separate religion based civil laws then lecture to us Hindu Nationalists.Like socialism secularism is a fetish to keep the hindu element out and yet appease the non-hindu elements in the name of secularism and minority.Try as hard as you may,we have educated enough hindu youth that you cant find that many fools like good old days of your Nehru and Gandhi family era.
@@AronAroniteOnlineTV Comparing all who oppose BJP to Gandhi? This is the talk of irresponsible people with a fascist bent. We all know Gandhi was extreme and unreasonable. That is no reason to go over to the party of Aditya's, Prayag's and Shah's. WE see through this mixing of fact and sentiment. Old trick, well covered in history.
And as if India's new class of Hindutva supporting tech workers in India and abroad were not a product of Nehru's IIT's. You are a dishonest lot, just like Congress in fact.
Aliens from far away galaxy wasting the endowments money through their Ivory tower analysis. these guys are so off from ground reality that listening to them sounds like they are talking about some parallel world
Brookins should also worry about why the democrats still use super delegate system? India cannot think of stupid traditional economic parameters. You need a different out of the box thinking. If you want Indians to live like Americans, you will need more than 2-3 Earths. The country does NOT need economists but Environmental Economists. I.e. specialists in environmental technology/engineering but who know enough economics to direct growth policy. I.e. Generalizing specialists.
Good speakers actually though the lady on the extreme left was totally unclear, no clarity in speech & difficult to understand.
Eshwar in his first comments did not mention about inflation being under control -hovering around 4 %.In every previous election sometimes even onion prices decided the outcome of elections.Fuel prices were relatively high in spite of fall in crude prices.The logic was that people had got used to the high prices and the extra revenue could be used for infrastructure development.Opening of over 30 million zero balance bank accounts for Direct Benefit Transfer was a great achievement which plugged the leak to the middlemen.The construction of 90 million toilets for the rural public was a great social initiative which brought him a huge chunk of women votes.There were more than 147 schemes directly benefiting the poor.
There is another logic for not reducing oil prices. Mindless spending has caused India to miss its fiscal deficit target again! So the only way to make the ends meet is revenue therefore oil prices didn’t fall despite crude oil prices been at historic low. I’m not suggesting running fiscal deficit is a bad thing. But what is bad is setting up a budget and then not meeting it without any good reasons. Building toilets got him vote is a speculation, may very well be a good speculation but you don’t know that for sure. How he got votes he got is even a misty for Modi himself if one want to speculate based on BJPs body language during end phase of the election.
@RapistAndFalse ProphetMuhammed An irrelevent comment.The EC has an open challenge to prove EVM tampering as you suggest.Why not take up the challenge and prove yourself right-All Indians will bow down to you.
Narendra modi is best man for india at this time
And BJP is the best party for India in the decades to come
absolutely wrong
*NO*
@@capricorn4518 u have done it with Ur father right
@batshitcrazy007 sad to know
Thank you for all the engagement with this discussion.
shri Yes.
NO IDEA OF WHAT IS UNDER CURRENT IN INDIA
@Parag Kulkarni ndtv and India today are libtaard channels that would never show you the TSUNAMO that hit India!
More like in depth analysis from left perspective. They have no idea what is going on in India.
When 900million people vote , you can talk BS how mch you want , the people decided India is a Hindu country , everybody feels safer under that kind of India
Boss can you explain you feel safe now only what happens before 2014 can you explain and why it was not safe.
BJP victory comes as a surprise? Maybe to Americans! We Indians are tired of Islamo-left-liberalism
These people are out of touch. They just have talking points.
Everyone have their blind spots. I don't think you have to be that harsh.
When were these "experts" last in India anytime? Maybe be more on the ground more than learning about it from the news.
Hmm..so if one of them visited India say during election that recently concluded will your hate for them turn into respect? And, will you be willing to listen to them?
@@M20-z4j you understood what I meant. No need to misunderstand on purpose and start fighting without reason
Lady, When Trump can be pro American business, what's not correct in Modi being pro indian business ?? Why should there be a different criteria ??
Eg. Trump's policies against Iran, adversely impacts India's crude oil purchase bill ? Do you think Trump will provide India similar Trade terms or compensate India in some other way ?
Get in touch with genuine politics dude, trump is getting alot of heat for this as well, it is not a wrong judgement
@@ichangemynameregularly it's a skewed judgement. Which side of my bread do I want buttered?
US politics is not like Indian politics.
And case in point I believe this Brookin institute is a progressive or leftist think tank. They will criticise both Trump and Modi.
@@rakoveith9443 sure the politics may be as different as chalk n cheese. So what value do these "intectuals" bring by equating non comparables and their conclusions ?
@@zeaybaanoorie528 well ...that is your argument against them. I'm just saying they will criticise Modi because it is Brookings institute which is a leftist think tank
They don't even leave in india
Maybe they read few news articles to keep updated about india
I cant understand the foreign obsession with Indian affairs.
Well.. you know the reason
They aren't as obsessed as we are with the west.
Moderator seems to be misinformed or under informed.
How can your 100 day program be a nonpartisan program when your leader RaghuRam Rajan is a Congress stooge who wanted to be the finance minister if Congress had come to power. 🙄🙄😑😑
I am BJP supporter but removing RaghuRajun Ram was bad decision by Modi. Raghu ram as governor of RBI rightly pointed out that Demonetization would have downside effect of Indian GDP. And he was very right. India lost approximately 1% of its growth due to this madness.
@Zinyak Demonetization destroyed the hawalas and black money dealers. Sure, growth was down, but not for long and even right after demonetization, the Indian economy was still growing at a huge rate that would be the envy of the Western countries. That was the perfect time to try such an experiment- when the Indian as well as the global economy was doing very well. Demonetization would have been suicide if it was implemented during a recession.
Zinyak what about now
Art Man Lol Hawalas are still working perfectly fine. The only thing demonetisation destroyed was the economy.
@pseudo prophet- Raghuram Rajan was/is an academician/economist from the US who was imported by Manmohan Singh to head the The reserve bank of India. Rajan's successor urjit Patel was also an economist imported from the UK. Both were shown the door by Modi's govt.
Nothing much should be expected from such folks even if they were to get into active politics in India
Young people in India hate Rahul Gandhi. A house mate of mine used to call him Oxford fail. There is also this feeling of him being part of a lineage reminding them of a foreigner autocratic past. I am not an Indian and all I say is what I have heard Indian friends say and observe. But if dharma is what this election was about then their are dark years ahead.
Where is Dharma there is no darkness , inequality, and unjust 🙏 and you can't understand or bind Dharma in any regional or racial or religious terms it's impossible ! Dharma can't be understood by people who use to believe in dogmatic and authoritarian belief system
Lol says a Pakistani