I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
I finished a procrastination/anxiety induced binge watch of every video of aging wheels and under dunn last night, with the same lost feeling you get when you watch the final episode of a tv show you've been enjoying and you no longer know what to do with your life. I got on youtube this morning to procrastinate more and saw there's another video! Happy days! but now that I've watched it I guess I'll get back to work.....
I have a very similar dust collection system (like almost exactly with a Bosch) on my miter saw. I ran through many, many, plywood prototypes before I found the secret sauce and now it's nearly perfect. Here is what I found. Mine is the same with two important tweaks/changes. #1 My zero clearance back fence is taller it extends up right to the bottom of the saw body see here 15:16 where you are cutting and chips are flying into the boot? Remove the boot, extend the fence higher and you have nearly total collection and two dust ports collecting. #2 Prior to your first cut you could see the system was air starved at the bottom. Making the first cut would help obviously, but on the zero clearance insert, in the back inside the box extending forward drill a bunch of holes like a honeycomb --> these made a huge difference in airflow. The holes also give the added bonus of acting like a suction on the work piece holding it in place. Hope this helps and nicely constructed.
I really appreciate your "no fear" approach to woodworking! While I enjoy working on all types of machinery, and have no fear of disassembling and reassembling complex machines, I have an innate fear of working with wood. It does not like me, and exhibits a contrariness you never experience with metal creations. This from a man whose father and grandfather could (and did) build all types of things with wood-- including houses, barns, piers, bulkheads, porches, stairs, etc. My wood building efforts have resulted in very sturdily made things-- mostly decks-- which would make my father cringe to see the details if he were still alive. Kudos to you, and please keep posting!
I'm building some dust collection equipment for my shop with my 3D printer as well. Don't underestimate the ease of just making the simple parts with wood and making fittings etc with the printer. 3D printer is the perfect accessory for the woodshop!
Good job! I gave up un dust collection for my mitre saw - I now keep the saw on a wheeled trolly near the door and just push it outside. The wind does the rest
I just perused all of the previous 64 comments and I’m apparently the only woodworker that considers the warranty voiding by chopping off a part of their tool. My $$ cordless 10” Makita sliding compound is around 2 years old, and probably out of warranty but still I am wary of such issues! Silly I guess because I realize as I write this I even got briefly uptight recently when I took apart my oldest corded circular saw for some now forgotten issue, and the silly warranty thing occurred to me. But then I remembered I bought it in a garage sale in 2001, and it was already probably 5-10 years old! I’m SO in need of a proper dust containment for my mitersaw. Looks like you have a nice idea, though I need full ability to all angles. Great videos too btw.
No, its worse than herding cats! I know ... I have a couple cats. Just bring out some food, and the cats will follow you anywhere! Start up the dust collector, and, well ... only so much dust will follow ...
So this is many years removed from most of the other comments, but I'm pretty sure that this is far more useful than just a "salad bowl". Also, I think that making smallish, wooden toy versions of some of your cars to be used as amusing decor for your home would be a fun way to kind of further tie both channels together.
If you are going to have a shtick, apparently its going to be overly ostentatious shop tooling accents. What other woodworker has a Mahogany dust collection box for their saw, and a dust vac cart with Walnut accents? EDIT: Apparently Check the replies for some GREAT other woodworkers. Lot of people doing really cool work. (I now realize that this comment was totally asking for it, and I am not disappointed in the SLIGHTEST that I got answers.)
Take a look at Fleets Wood Shop. That's insane! Andrew Klein's only comment on the Fleets Wood Shop tour was "I quit!" :D ua-cam.com/video/aBNkCm2-jTY/v-deo.html
I too have often thought about the dust collection systems available to the modern woodworker who, even to the present day , usually has to put up with that uncontrollable workshop mess! I watched your video with great interest as also I have watched two others who have also gone to extreme lengths and had partial success. At 76 years of age I spend more time thinking about problems than actually physically dealing with them….like dust collection. What always comes to my mind, when stepping outside of the normal box, is the consideration which never seems to be given to the high speed of the dust coming off the saw blade which, via our own efforts is then directed into the path of the very much slower speed of the suction draft. It would be fairly simple to utilize the blower side of an extraction unit to direct a flow of assisting air onto each side of the saw blade to encourage better removal of the dust by pushing the dust into the suction draft! Just a thought Thomas.
Very cool. I was actually hoping to see you do a 45 degree cut to see how that works. Either your fence pulls apart somehow or you have to make additional cuts into the fence and/or dust collection housing. Maybe I'm missing something.
Two years later and I am wondering the same thing. I assume he has never made a 45 degree cut because as soon as he went to make one, he realized he was going to destroy the whole thing and make it wide open 😂😂
@@IAintScaredOfNoGhost If you watch his video "Making a BirdsEye Maple River Table" video you'll see him make the 45 degree cut at 10m23s. ua-cam.com/video/qYHMIfjOhow/v-deo.html
I you use a crepe block in any of you sanding pads, disks, cylinders, as you see them loading up a little, the crepe cleans them off and greatly extends the life of the sanding media. Been doing this for years, saved many dollars.
That is a work of art! I gave up with mine... the builtin hose connector grabs perhaps 50% at best and the rest from the blade spin just flings tut towards the back & sides. So... I just built a cheap plywood shroud box around the back of it and added a port for my 4" collector pipe, then put some simple removable doors on the front to enclose as best possible (doors remove for miter/bevel cuts). It actually works rather well now... probably 90% or more gets collected.
I have seen lots of mitersaw collection attempts and tried them as well, this has to be the prettiest but effective one I’ve seen, hat off to you my friend.
A small but important point. Sliding miter saws are NOT designed for chop cutting. You are ALWAYS supposed to pull the saw out, then plunge, and execute the cut pushing the saw backwards.
For me, this video was worth it for the zero clearance insert alone, but as you were attaching the PVC to the boxes behind the fence, i realized, with all the trouble you were already going through, you could heat that pipe, and make a venturi. This was doubly reinforced when you decided to constrict flow at the top. Once again, add venturi, get more flow while constricting or controlling the pressure, double bonus~!~ Naturally, i wouldn't be watching this if i was not trying to do this as well. Customers hate sawdust, and often i have to set up in their garages. So decreasing it is a must. Thanks for the video.
I've been contemplating something like this. My saw just blasts 90% of the dust past the vacuum port LOL. Nice vids, nice shop, great ideas. Definitely helps me shorten my design times.
It is so much better than before you had it! I have a Bosch Axial Glide, so it is a very different build. I tried making one similar to it, just for proof of concept, and the "snorkel" mod (making the bottom part longer and wider) was way better, which sucks, as yours is really beautiful. I got new tape for my joints (4 inch pipe, 2 hp, 2 stage) as i can hear it hissing and leaking, which could be part of the problem, for sure. Ill keep trying to figure something out.
Looks good but I'm not sure how well it'll hold up once you start cutting different angles. The first angled cut you make will eliminate the zero clearance aspect of the fence whilst making an additional cut in the hood at the back I.e. reducing its effectiveness.
8:25 You perfectly demonstrated why the end grain gluing heuristic has become a horrible myth. End grain glues better than side grain, weak joints come from small glue areas. The lesson of weak end grain gluing is supposed to train you to avoid gluing the narrow ends of structures, but it's poor communication resulted in you re-jiggering your part to make the joint even weaker. With that said, your surface is big enough for the job and probably will hold up fine, unless you are using a glue that goes brittle, in which case the side grain glue line may break from vibration.
I have the same miter saw and while it does a much better job than any I've owned before with dust collection I've noticed it works best with a sliding cut.... So I use a lot of sliding cuts. But maybe... Just maybe I need to upgrade. Thanks for sharing
My first video watch and added ..nice work on the dust collector fence..it is a piece of art . I dont know if I would of spent all the time making a fence . I probably would of spent it making something for someone.. hey but what ever you have time for..thanks for making the video..now out to my shop to make some $ and dust ! Man glitter
Nice Video Robert! I was particularly impressed at how you tackled all of the little challenges that you faced during the build. I was thinking that you'd hate to make that first cut on your new piece and you were in fact very entertaining! Thanks!
I perform the same type of builds as you , I was an electrical engineer but now retired I hate to waste time on plans ; for they always change During the build anyway🙃
Problem is even miter cuts will destroy a zero clearance box. It would have been better to have created a large shield in the back that would let the sawdust fly back and to be funneled down to be sucked out the bottom. The shields top would have sloped up as it came forward and the two sidewalls would fan out roughly 45° to each side. It would come out to the back of your fence and the top could extend a few inches further and be rounded to match the arc of the swing of the handle for the Saw. This would help to guide the sawdust back so that you could have a collection area behind and below the table of the miter saw they could have a hose in the bottom or low on one side. You could also put a second smaller hose before the blast gate that would have a stopper in it so that after you were done using the miter saw you could remove the stopper and close the blast gate and use that singular hose to clean up whatever little bit didn’t go back to the collection area and then shut off your vacuum and re-insert the stopper.
The mitre saw fence/box does look good. Works well as a zero clearance, but the design and a total of three small flexible hoses is creating a LOT of pressure drop so reducing potential airflow. We all need some flexible hose, but reducing the length to a minimum reduces pressure drop. Mattias Wandel just posted a good video showing the effect of hose size on shop vac and dust collector performance. You have a LOT of fittings on the system. Every fitting adds pressure drop. Try using only one of the PVC pipes and compare the amount of suction/dust collected. ua-cam.com/video/d33CQchZHX4/v-deo.html Dave.
Agreed, you could attach the hose to one side and block the other, and if you need a miter on the hose side, just switch the hose and block. That's what I thought he was going to do at the beginning.
I think the dust collection efficiency will automatically improve over time or after you made a few angled cuts. I fear it might loose a bit of its nice appearance when the star pattern starts to appear on the box, though. :(
Block the 2 top rows in the fence because they are pulling most air through them because the least amount of obstruction so by blocking them off and making the air be forced through the bottom means the system will work better for dust collection
I absolutely love your over-engineered project. I have a question for you and the other "Think Tankers" ... How can you still have the zero clearance when cutting up to 45 degrees left or right ... eg for Picture Frames? I am setting up something similar with my rebuilt and refurbished Dewalt Powershop 7740 Radial Arm Saw. Your amazing working sculpture is worthy of an engineering award. The challenge as I see it , zero-clearance will cease on the face due to the angle the saw would be cutting, thus increasing the gap on the vertical surface. It would ruin your crafted routed slots. However the zero-clearance just might work on the top only. A fixed hemispherical shape with a matching arc , and mated sliding surface. A thought just came to me ... With the volume of air-suction being generated, It may be possible to widen the vertical gap with straight sides. Unfortunately, your aesthetic horizontal slots would become too brittle, and the potential to break would become very high. I would love to see your approach to the zero-clearance 45 degree challenge. Cheers from South Australia.
I see guys make stuff for the shop and they're like, "It doesn't have to look good, it's for a shop." We see it every time we use it so why shouldn't it look nice? Looks great and don't forget to make all of your shop look good if you want too.
You are a "cut" above the rest! Must have been in the family... I guess you're a "chip" off the old block! I like when things don't go as planned you adapt and show how you adjusted insead of coming "unglued" and "scrapping" the whole thing! You just roll with it and never get "clamped" up! It's great "pun" to watch! Lol Awesome work!
I absolutely love your design. I have a similar idea for my saw as well. I will use your sucesses and misses to design mine. Thanks for your hard work.
Connect just one pipe, and on the other side leave the opening open, and reduce it only a little ... so you will have a side stream of air ... a side stream and a stronger stream that will remove the chips sideways ...away from the direction of rotation of the saw blade😉
Awesome work man, I would cut a few pass-through vented slots on the top of the zero clearance insert behind the fence line to help with dust. Maybe even a few slots on the entire insert to gain more airflow. Also 2-1/2”-4” adapters on the fence collection to add a higher static pull at that location just a thought!
If you were to cut the front grill slots at a 45 deg angle, you may have alot less dust bouncing back. I will be using you idea myself but with some sort of small doors that can be adjusted to the angle of my miter cuts. I was thinking about quarter pie doors that pivot. I’ll keep you updated on my progress.
Haha love it, total waste of time. If you want to cut mitre's or bevel cuts you will end up destroying the fence. The finish on the dust fence was stunning, you have to love mahogany. Thanks for sharing
Just a thought: maybe instead of using a round over bit on the vent openings, maybe a chamfer bit? This would make the openings wider on the front while still thick (and solid) at the back and the dust more likely to be drawn into the opening itself and have less bounce-back. Just a thought for your next iteration.
It makes me glad that I just capped a plastic rectangle dust chute and fit it to the back of my ç12Rsh2..... That much Mahogany would have made most of a guitar in my guitar shop 😂 yours does look nicer😝
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The single most wonderfully over-engineered shop accessory ever!
And very pretty to boot!
Hey, all of us working in the shop w/post-COVID lung damage are like, "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!"
You know you're crossing over into true shop territory when people ask where did you get this? And you can just smile and say I made it 😊
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
100% of the next project will need bevel cuts...
Looks great! Glad your plans are working out. This is exciting!
I finished a procrastination/anxiety induced binge watch of every video of aging wheels and under dunn last night, with the same lost feeling you get when you watch the final episode of a tv show you've been enjoying and you no longer know what to do with your life. I got on youtube this morning to procrastinate more and saw there's another video! Happy days! but now that I've watched it I guess I'll get back to work.....
That was me after watching his bus series.
Great. Now I am depressed, too.
All: Robert...Robert...Robert...! 😇
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Ain't that the truth!!
I have a very similar dust collection system (like almost exactly with a Bosch) on my miter saw. I ran through many, many, plywood prototypes before I found the secret sauce and now it's nearly perfect. Here is what I found. Mine is the same with two important tweaks/changes. #1 My zero clearance back fence is taller it extends up right to the bottom of the saw body see here 15:16 where you are cutting and chips are flying into the boot? Remove the boot, extend the fence higher and you have nearly total collection and two dust ports collecting. #2 Prior to your first cut you could see the system was air starved at the bottom. Making the first cut would help obviously, but on the zero clearance insert, in the back inside the box extending forward drill a bunch of holes like a honeycomb --> these made a huge difference in airflow. The holes also give the added bonus of acting like a suction on the work piece holding it in place. Hope this helps and nicely constructed.
I really appreciate your "no fear" approach to woodworking! While I enjoy working on all types of machinery, and have no fear of disassembling and reassembling complex machines, I have an innate fear of working with wood. It does not like me, and exhibits a contrariness you never experience with metal creations. This from a man whose father and grandfather could (and did) build all types of things with wood-- including houses, barns, piers, bulkheads, porches, stairs, etc. My wood building efforts have resulted in very sturdily made things-- mostly decks-- which would make my father cringe to see the details if he were still alive. Kudos to you, and please keep posting!
This is a great work of art. Having recently purchased a 3D printer I'm imagining how much easier most of this build would have been with one.
I'm building some dust collection equipment for my shop with my 3D printer as well. Don't underestimate the ease of just making the simple parts with wood and making fittings etc with the printer. 3D printer is the perfect accessory for the woodshop!
Good job! I gave up un dust collection for my mitre saw - I now keep the saw on a wheeled trolly near the door and just push it outside. The wind does the rest
I just perused all of the previous 64 comments and I’m apparently the only woodworker that considers the warranty voiding by chopping off a part of their tool. My $$ cordless 10” Makita sliding compound is around 2 years old, and probably out of warranty but still I am wary of such issues! Silly I guess because I realize as I write this I even got briefly uptight recently when I took apart my oldest corded circular saw for some now forgotten issue, and the silly warranty thing occurred to me. But then I remembered I bought it in a garage sale in 2001, and it was already probably 5-10 years old! I’m SO in need of a proper dust containment for my mitersaw. Looks like you have a nice idea, though I need full ability to all angles. Great videos too btw.
As another UA-camr might say: He _is_ the warranty.
Trying to get efficient dust Collection on a miter saw is like trying to heard cats....effin impossible. Good job though even if a bit OTT. 👍👍
No, its worse than herding cats! I know ... I have a couple cats.
Just bring out some food, and the cats will follow you anywhere!
Start up the dust collector, and, well ... only so much dust will follow ...
So this is many years removed from most of the other comments, but I'm pretty sure that this is far more useful than just a "salad bowl". Also, I think that making smallish, wooden toy versions of some of your cars to be used as amusing decor for your home would be a fun way to kind of further tie both channels together.
If you are going to have a shtick, apparently its going to be overly ostentatious shop tooling accents. What other woodworker has a Mahogany dust collection box for their saw, and a dust vac cart with Walnut accents?
EDIT: Apparently Check the replies for some GREAT other woodworkers. Lot of people doing really cool work. (I now realize that this comment was totally asking for it, and I am not disappointed in the SLIGHTEST that I got answers.)
If you want to see excessive use of walnut accents, see Fishers Shop.
Fisher's Shop literally has "unnecessary walnut" as his main phrase already
@@gaz740 Gunflint Designs also really likes to use walnut
Take a look at Fleets Wood Shop. That's insane! Andrew Klein's only comment on the Fleets Wood Shop tour was "I quit!" :D ua-cam.com/video/aBNkCm2-jTY/v-deo.html
@@thomashverring9484 I watched that a few weeks ago. For a moment I forgot I was watching a UA-cam video! Damn that's a nice shop!!
I've never had the luxury of making an edging piece out of mahogany. :) Nice.
And it is shaped like the Pizza Hut logo. Love the casual humor this man drops on a regular basis.
Robert, That was some pretty snazzy work you did making the curved enclosure!
I too have often thought about the dust collection systems available to the modern woodworker who, even to the present day , usually has to put up with that uncontrollable workshop mess!
I watched your video with great interest as also I have watched two others who have also gone to extreme lengths and had partial success.
At 76 years of age I spend more time thinking about problems than actually physically dealing with them….like dust collection.
What always comes to my mind, when stepping outside of the normal box, is the consideration which never seems to be given to the high speed of the dust coming off the saw blade which, via our own efforts is then directed into the path of the very much slower speed of the suction draft.
It would be fairly simple to utilize the blower side of an extraction unit to direct a flow of assisting air onto each side of the saw blade to encourage better removal of the dust by pushing the dust into the suction draft!
Just a thought
Thomas.
This video is casual and humorous, but damn, the engineering and the execution of the invention is stellar and top class...
3:00 masking tape and superglue trick! A luthier's best friend.
Very cool. I was actually hoping to see you do a 45 degree cut to see how that works. Either your fence pulls apart somehow or you have to make additional cuts into the fence and/or dust collection housing. Maybe I'm missing something.
Two years later and I am wondering the same thing. I assume he has never made a 45 degree cut because as soon as he went to make one, he realized he was going to destroy the whole thing and make it wide open 😂😂
@@IAintScaredOfNoGhost If you watch his video "Making a BirdsEye Maple River Table" video you'll see him make the 45 degree cut at 10m23s.
ua-cam.com/video/qYHMIfjOhow/v-deo.html
I you use a crepe block in any of you sanding pads, disks, cylinders, as you see them loading up a little, the crepe cleans them off and greatly extends the life of the sanding media. Been doing this for years, saved many dollars.
Love ya work mate. That Mitre Saw Fence / Dust Port would give a Jelly Fish a Hardon!
That is a work of art!
I gave up with mine... the builtin hose connector grabs perhaps 50% at best and the rest from the blade spin just flings tut towards the back & sides. So... I just built a cheap plywood shroud box around the back of it and added a port for my 4" collector pipe, then put some simple removable doors on the front to enclose as best possible (doors remove for miter/bevel cuts). It actually works rather well now... probably 90% or more gets collected.
I have seen lots of mitersaw collection attempts and tried them as well, this has to be the prettiest but effective one I’ve seen, hat off to you my friend.
Hey good job, I didn't think we'd see dust collection videos for a while! Sorry for doubting you haha
It does look really nice!
What a beautiful dust collector. Ingenuity and execution; perfect!! My favorite YT channel!
I just found your channel and I cant even express how much I enjoy your videos.
Haha! I have that SAME miter saw, and I cut the same piece off the saw in the same manner that you did. I thought I was the only nut! 😁
A small but important point. Sliding miter saws are NOT designed for chop cutting. You are ALWAYS supposed to pull the saw out, then plunge, and execute the cut pushing the saw backwards.
For me, this video was worth it for the zero clearance insert alone, but as you were attaching the PVC to the boxes behind the fence, i realized, with all the trouble you were already going through, you could heat that pipe, and make a venturi. This was doubly reinforced when you decided to constrict flow at the top. Once again, add venturi, get more flow while constricting or controlling the pressure, double bonus~!~ Naturally, i wouldn't be watching this if i was not trying to do this as well. Customers hate sawdust, and often i have to set up in their garages. So decreasing it is a must. Thanks for the video.
He looks so proud! Wonderfully overengineered, good on you.
this is like... you built your own rocket to pick up a fruit from a very tall tree. way too stunning to follow the instruction. respect!
I've been contemplating something like this. My saw just blasts 90% of the dust past the vacuum port LOL. Nice vids, nice shop, great ideas. Definitely helps me shorten my design times.
Nice how you leave your bloopers in. And the dust collection looks awesome
5:44 Reminds me of the old saying "Anything can be used as a sextoy, if only you are brave enough".
Over Dunn... I'll see myself out
It is so much better than before you had it! I have a Bosch Axial Glide, so it is a very different build. I tried making one similar to it, just for proof of concept, and the "snorkel" mod (making the bottom part longer and wider) was way better, which sucks, as yours is really beautiful. I got new tape for my joints (4 inch pipe, 2 hp, 2 stage) as i can hear it hissing and leaking, which could be part of the problem, for sure. Ill keep trying to figure something out.
I haven't found your white oak saw horses yet. I look forward to the dovetails.
Looks good but I'm not sure how well it'll hold up once you start cutting different angles. The first angled cut you make will eliminate the zero clearance aspect of the fence whilst making an additional cut in the hood at the back I.e. reducing its effectiveness.
You would take it out for an angled cut.
@@MartinThmpsn Feels like he rarely does angled cuts on it, but that might just be me.
Having to remove it to miter is a con to all the work that went into it. But if one rarely makes miter cuts all good.
Anything worth doing is worth over-doing! I like your style!!
Thanks for this. Informative and funny delivery. Yes, it is beautiful
Entertaining, and fun. I appreciate the mistakes being left in, as it makes me feel better about when I mess up.
That looked so good and it looks like it works too much props my dude much props.
someone's been busy! so many more toys in the workshop. nice.
Dude, those are some serious router skills, especially doing the roundover in that tiny slot.
8:25 You perfectly demonstrated why the end grain gluing heuristic has become a horrible myth. End grain glues better than side grain, weak joints come from small glue areas. The lesson of weak end grain gluing is supposed to train you to avoid gluing the narrow ends of structures, but it's poor communication resulted in you re-jiggering your part to make the joint even weaker.
With that said, your surface is big enough for the job and probably will hold up fine, unless you are using a glue that goes brittle, in which case the side grain glue line may break from vibration.
I have the same miter saw and while it does a much better job than any I've owned before with dust collection I've noticed it works best with a sliding cut.... So I use a lot of sliding cuts. But maybe... Just maybe I need to upgrade. Thanks for sharing
My first video watch and added ..nice work on the dust collector fence..it is a piece of art . I dont know if I would of spent all the time making a fence . I probably would of spent it making something for someone.. hey but what ever you have time for..thanks for making the video..now out to my shop to make some $ and dust ! Man glitter
The part you made looks very reminiscent of an old 1950s cars air central interior vent, I can just imagine it in the centre dash facing a bench seat
Nice Video Robert! I was particularly impressed at how you tackled all of the little challenges that you faced during the build. I was thinking that you'd hate to make that first cut on your new piece and you were in fact very entertaining! Thanks!
I perform the same type of builds as you , I was an electrical engineer but now retired I hate to waste time on plans ; for they always change During the build anyway🙃
Problem is even miter cuts will destroy a zero clearance box. It would have been better to have created a large shield in the back that would let the sawdust fly back and to be funneled down to be sucked out the bottom. The shields top would have sloped up as it came forward and the two sidewalls would fan out roughly 45° to each side. It would come out to the back of your fence and the top could extend a few inches further and be rounded to match the arc of the swing of the handle for the Saw. This would help to guide the sawdust back so that you could have a collection area behind and below the table of the miter saw they could have a hose in the bottom or low on one side. You could also put a second smaller hose before the blast gate that would have a stopper in it so that after you were done using the miter saw you could remove the stopper and close the blast gate and use that singular hose to clean up whatever little bit didn’t go back to the collection area and then shut off your vacuum and re-insert the stopper.
The mitre saw fence/box does look good. Works well as a zero clearance, but the design and a total of three small flexible hoses is creating a LOT of pressure drop so reducing potential airflow. We all need some flexible hose, but reducing the length to a minimum reduces pressure drop.
Mattias Wandel just posted a good video showing the effect of hose size on shop vac and dust collector performance.
You have a LOT of fittings on the system. Every fitting adds pressure drop.
Try using only one of the PVC pipes and compare the amount of suction/dust collected.
ua-cam.com/video/d33CQchZHX4/v-deo.html
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Agreed, you could attach the hose to one side and block the other, and if you need a miter on the hose side, just switch the hose and block. That's what I thought he was going to do at the beginning.
I think the dust collection efficiency will automatically improve over time or after you made a few angled cuts. I fear it might loose a bit of its nice appearance when the star pattern starts to appear on the box, though. :(
Love your work and your style. You are so genuine, its refreshing. Keep up the good work . May you enjoy all the sucess
The only thing I dislike about the Dewalt planer is that it goes through knives faster than Joey Chestnut goes through hotdogs.
Block the 2 top rows in the fence because they are pulling most air through them because the least amount of obstruction so by blocking them off and making the air be forced through the bottom means the system will work better for dust collection
This is kind of outrageous. I like it.
Always love your videos
I absolutely love your over-engineered project. I have a question for you and the other "Think Tankers" ... How can you still have the zero clearance when cutting up to 45 degrees left or right ... eg for Picture Frames? I am setting up something similar with my rebuilt and refurbished Dewalt Powershop 7740 Radial Arm Saw. Your amazing working sculpture is worthy of an engineering award. The challenge as I see it , zero-clearance will cease on the face due to the angle the saw would be cutting, thus increasing the gap on the vertical surface. It would ruin your crafted routed slots. However the zero-clearance just might work on the top only. A fixed hemispherical shape with a matching arc , and mated sliding surface. A thought just came to me ... With the volume of air-suction being generated, It may be possible to widen the vertical gap with straight sides. Unfortunately, your aesthetic horizontal slots would become too brittle, and the potential to break would become very high. I would love to see your approach to the zero-clearance 45 degree challenge. Cheers from South Australia.
You're a special kind of crazy. I dig it ;)
Thanks for this video. Great idea, I have to try to make on of these now.
Nice work!! BTW, end grain to side grain or end grain is stronger than side grain to side grain... but any fit up is very strong because GLUE.
You are such a cool guy. I'm very happy that i found your channel.
That little piece you cut out was clearly the Pizza de résistance
Your work is beautifully executed. Craftsman in my opinion. Inspirational. Subscribed.
I see guys make stuff for the shop and they're like, "It doesn't have to look good, it's for a shop." We see it every time we use it so why shouldn't it look nice? Looks great and don't forget to make all of your shop look good if you want too.
I like your humour. Nice video
You are a "cut" above the rest! Must have been in the family... I guess you're a "chip" off the old block! I like when things don't go as planned you adapt and show how you adjusted insead of coming "unglued" and "scrapping" the whole thing! You just roll with it and never get "clamped" up! It's great "pun" to watch!
Lol
Awesome work!
Respect for your work! Even if it won’t works as you hoped you are happy! Great job!
Apart from voiding your warranty on your saw, this was another brilliant video!🇦🇺👴🏻
Does it really void the warranty. If his mod didn't cause the failure then the warranty should be intact. At least the works with mods on car engines.
Not: Under Dunn. Instead: Well Dunn. Bravo sir!
Nice looking grid! Honestly it's best to have more air flow and from under the saw and behind, but we gotta work with what we got.
I absolutely love your design. I have a similar idea for my saw as well. I will use your sucesses and misses to design mine. Thanks for your hard work.
This is so much better than New Yankee Workshop
That looks really great.....it hurt when you made the very first cut thru that beautiful mahogany.
I love this - looks are underrated!
Not sure if you noticed Robert but that zero clearance dust port fence looks nice. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Beautiful job, functional and looks great, thank for sharing, and all you hard work and time putting this video together it is greatly appreciated
Connect just one pipe, and on the other side leave the opening open, and reduce it only a little ... so you will have a side stream of air ... a side stream and a stronger stream that will remove the chips sideways ...away from the direction of rotation of the saw blade😉
Very nice Craftsmanship!
Awesome work man, I would cut a few pass-through vented slots on the top of the zero clearance insert behind the fence line to help with dust. Maybe even a few slots on the entire insert to gain more airflow. Also 2-1/2”-4” adapters on the fence collection to add a higher static pull at that location just a thought!
I love watching these!
A joy as always. Greetings from Scotland!
Very fancy. I'm impressed.
If you were to cut the front grill slots at a 45 deg angle, you may have alot less dust bouncing back. I will be using you idea myself but with some sort of small doors that can be adjusted to the angle of my miter cuts. I was thinking about quarter pie doors that pivot. I’ll keep you updated on my progress.
No, you didn't use excessive mahogany. We are pleased to see that you seem to have a good time building your projects.
looks good! I hope you have another one for....
MITERS!
Looks great. getting good dust collection on a miter saw is really difficult!
Looking forward to how you tackle dust collection with the radial arm.
Aw theres Robert, Hi Robert!
I always wondered how the Rube Goldberg fence was built. Thanks. Entertaining video though. Good job, no sarcasm intended. Really.
I appreciate your over-engineering!
Haha love it, total waste of time. If you want to cut mitre's or bevel cuts you will end up destroying the fence. The finish on the dust fence was stunning, you have to love mahogany. Thanks for sharing
Just a thought: maybe instead of using a round over bit on the vent openings, maybe a chamfer bit? This would make the openings wider on the front while still thick (and solid) at the back and the dust more likely to be drawn into the opening itself and have less bounce-back. Just a thought for your next iteration.
The back of the fence thing looks like the Packard Bell Corner PC
It makes me glad that I just capped a plastic rectangle dust chute and fit it to the back of my ç12Rsh2..... That much Mahogany would have made most of a guitar in my guitar shop 😂 yours does look nicer😝
That looks nice. 👏👏👍👏
Did I mention that looks nice ?🤔
Well just in case, I will tell you...........,.........
That looks nice .😎
I love this channel so much!
great result👍 ohh and it looks also great 😄