COMPLETE SERIES VIDEO IS FINALLY OUT: ua-cam.com/video/I82Rvb6wE3k/v-deo.html 1:13 ♥ One additional thing I noticed: Scarlet Aeonia requires only ONE memory slot instead of 3 FARUM AZULA NEXT WEEK Music: 0:00 - Miquella's Haligtree (Elden Ring OST) 3:03 - Elphael (Elden Ring OST) 7:32 - Malenia, Blade of Miquella (Elden Ring OST) 10:17 - The Nexus (Demon's Souls OG OST)
my theory is that waterfowl dance proper is something malenia was supposed to do only in phase 2, given the way she launches herself at you. she has wings in that phase, so it would make sense to me. that, and fromsoft tends to like putting phase 2 signature attacks on the weapons they give, typically...
You should try sleep on the Godskin Duo; they have a non-functional move where they can roar and wake each other up. It's probably still broken in 1.00 though. You can see the Apostle in the windmill village do it if you sleep the celebrants. I'm definitely glad they added a unique song to Elphael, as it's quite fitting. You should see how Loretta's spell works for the player and whether or not it matches the boss's 1.00 attack or her current patch attack.
The Godskin Duo thing is a shout, didn't think of checking that 👀 Also I'm pretty sure I checked Loretta spell, it did seem the same as normal, so didnt mention but given the actual boss, shoulda brought it up
Hmmmm from a "power level" stand point that makes sense, but imagine not learning it as well bc you have to wait till phase 2 🥴 but then again waterfowl is probably the main reason we didnt make it to phase 2 more often, so might be onto something 🧐
I just realized that some of the crafting arrows are missing from the current patch, the one that uses the prismatic feathered arrow is missing and I can't craft it anymore, same with some modifications on the armors, I can't modify the vanished armor chest piece and the helmet
It's possible that the Miquellan knight sword did magic dmg originally because it was meant for Loretta. At least that's what its current description seems to suggest considering that she is a former Carian knight and that the sword is embedded with amber like her mirrorshield. That mirrorshield's description also implies that Loretta is an albinauric and the older generation albinaurics lose their legs so perhaps Loretta never got that sword because her walking days are over and the war sickle is a better weapon for mounted combat.
@@grayfoxx4 not as absurd as "Radagon is Marika" and silver tears also bleed silver but they bleed red as soon as they start using the player model. So her not bleeding silver could be an oversight by the developer as her model is a reskinned tree sentinel.
Also, something you might not have noticed is that Malenia's 4 hit combo has 2 variations. A long and shot pause before the final strike. This is standard information, however, in ver 1.00 her long variation of the attack would start the combo with no sparks coming off her prosthetic. Pretty net .
Does the spell also fire off one less arrow? Are you able to check that? I'd like to know in your next video if there's anything different about how it functions! O:
Oh wow that's wild 👀 I've actually noticed some very subtle DS3 leftovers in some names of things, I think some of the Ash of War alternate names are straight from DS3 (but not just like "Square Off," its even more on the nose)
I dont think passive bonuses exist in 1.00 for armor pieces at least. The head pieces dont give any boost to intelligence or vigor. The only passive bonus i did find was the meteorite staff still boost gravity spells. I tested it with rock sling it doesn't say it but it does increase dmg passively, but Carian Regal and Lusats staff dont offer any unique bonuses aside from offering the same exact scaling at +9. So off hand meteorite for increase dmg is pretty solid for sorcery builds.
That cut attack got brought back in the Convergence mod. I thought it was an original design by the modders. not a cut attack. That's cool but I'm honestly glad it was cut because it is way more annoying honestly.
Interestingly, the Elden Ring Convergence mod restores Malenia’s walking waterfowl dance. They also made waterfowl dance parryable, which is super funny to me.
Hahaha well tbf about parrying, you can parry a player using the ash of war, though it doesnt really do anything, they can just continue using the flurry
Im glad they cut the second waterfowl dance thingy. Elden Rings bosses can often be criticized for having attacks you as the player can not do anything about besides running away from it which of course isn’t really something that benefits the combat. This second version would slow down the fight even more than the one in the release version.
Very good critique, having specific attacks that you cant really punish is def meh for combat flow, at least when theres too many, and Malenia can def be one of those unless youre just willing to trade
@@BertoPlease yea. Although there’s always room for attacks like that in a fast paced fight like the orphan for example. When that thing uses it’s AOE circle you are able to breath for a second and apply buffs or just heal. Malenias bloom attack is an example of a well done pause between a tense fight. I think that boss would be so much fun if it weren’t for the waterfowl dance. The fact you can’t really dodge it without special tricks makes the player stay away from her the whole fight just to bait the dance. This hurts the pacing a lot. In that aspect the unused version looks even superior due to it having a proper window to react while standing right in front of her.
@@mt2r-music Mind you i dont entirely mind in the case of something like a "super attack," its supposed to be intimidating, thinking something like Rykards swing down, but that alone releases a lot of tension, while waterfowl dance doesnt really relieve much tension outside of "oh she MIGHT not do it for a little while" but of course theres no build up to it and can do that at the most unfortunate time. But yeah having 2 attacks kinda like that would be a lot
I think Malenia having the second waterfowl move that's way more manageable was a conscious decision, if you pay attention to her footwork, she's skipping(?) and makes it seem like she's flowing through the air. The much more aggressive (Current release) version was the one that survived mostly because of just having a more consistent harder learning curve I guess. People would be probably just praying to RNG gods for her to use the slower version.
Interesting thought. What I can say from trying the boss fight a good amount of attempts, it seemed way less frequent than the current waterfowl, I dont think I'd even see it in some attempts
Her skipping on one foot is supposed to be a reference to waterfowls (cranes) hopping on one foot, if i remember correctly. So it's likely that it's just an early version of the dance that wasn't deleted yet.
It seems the Meteorite staff doesnt have anything in its description about not being upgradeable, and the int scaling says B, so, if its not too much of a hassle, could you check if you can upgrade it in 1.00? I imagine a +10 meteorite staff would be quite something for sorcery builds lmao
I wanna fight 1.00 malenia again . I did it once and cost me 60 hours due to being under leveled and only having 30 vigor. Seeing you fight made me want to fight that version again. I already beat ver 1.00 malenia 3 times , what's one more...
Just from having a looksie at the title and thumbnail, my guess is they found this cut attack in the code on pc, but pc not having access to 1.00 directly means they probably didnt know the full context of it, which would make sense. I'll give it a watch sometime 👀
The original Waterfowl is so jank looking.😅 They probably couldn’t make the dancing attack flow together well. I think they could have make it similar to the Flowing Sword R2 chain (Obviously not the exact same move).
Why does it feel like every enemy is more aggressive and powerful lately? When I first got the game over half a year ago, I got through the Haligtree no problem Now I’m getting fucking slaughtered, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
I'm surprised that no one in the comments pointed this out but that cut waterfowl dance is extremely similar to an attack that Okami Warriors can perform as well as the Spiral Cloud Passage ultimate skill in Sekiro. Some theorized that the scrapped contents for Sekiro dlc were repurposed for Elden Ring as there a lot of similarities that Malenia has to the main character of Sekiro as well as the rumored Tomoe cut dlc boss. That cut waterfowl dance move would fit perfectly into the setting of Sekiro.
One thing I would like to note, the scenarios where waterfowl is difficult to dodge (when she armors through an attack or is already super close) would be just as hard with this other waterfowl. Imagine if she was directly in front of him when she initiated it. Every part of the attack would string together and you would probably die. Maybe I’m missing something, but after fighting malenia a lot that attack still looks like a nightmare if you aren’t specifically baiting it out like seen in the video.
@@evanmcdonald9134 i made a small note and maybe i shouldve actually discussed it but you do seem to be able to stagger her out of the cut waterfowl dance, at least with something like a jump attack, maybe with with other attacks you could too? Main reason I didn't show it is cause I did by accident at the very start of the animation so it's hard to even tell, maybe in the full video release I'll try it more consciously to show it better
@@BertoPlease ah ok that’s interesting. Wasn’t sure if you meant that attacks during it could knock her out (something like a great spear that can hit through her flurries), or that she could be whacked at the beginning. Either way, really interesting attack and kinda surprised they cut it
I have played this elden ring and bro the whole game in version 1.00 is harder than the other updates alot of items and buffs that help u in fight are not found and malenia is harder godfrey has 2 health that makes him very hard and almost the hardest boss in the game
Hey man I am playing on this version but in 1.00 there is no hoarfrost stomp For exemple.. my question is if I update the game Will I have it even if I already kill the invisible creature who gives it to me?
You mean the ash of war alone? I got that one in 1.00, I just didn't find the Icerind Hatchet 🤔 But I guess if it bugged I'm not really sure if it'll show up, I'm guessing not?
@@BertoPlease I just understood that its name is Hoarfrost Step in 1.0 Version but it is just an example I gave you... So now if I update it and return to a place that have an new item in latest version I will found it normally?
@@Yassin_Has OH gotcha. Umm I'm not the one to ask since I haven't quite done that yet, I think someone told me that if theres an item you already looted in a chest, even if the item is different, it won't respawn? i imagine someone else can answer more definitively
Malenia was way easier back then I killed her 5 times during the last two weeks she hardly ever did the dance and the clones attack I even tried to bait those but got them about 1 or two times in 10 to 12 tries
I can understand why they cut that "now do you understand" 1.0 Malenia dialogue its makes her sound a little too arrogant. I'm also surprised that WA on the hand of malenia is named "Waterfowl dance" and not "Malenia's blade". I remembered seeing a 1.0 malenia vid and it was called that instead.
Sometimes the ash of war name is different in the hud when equipped rather than the item menu, so that could be the reason there, good note though, will check that sometime
I just realized that some of the crafting arrows are missing from the current patch, the one that uses the prismatic feathered arrow is missing and I can't craft it anymore, same with some modifications on the armors, I can't modify the vanished armor chest piece and the helmet
COMPLETE SERIES VIDEO IS FINALLY OUT: ua-cam.com/video/I82Rvb6wE3k/v-deo.html
1:13 ♥
One additional thing I noticed: Scarlet Aeonia requires only ONE memory slot instead of 3
FARUM AZULA NEXT WEEK
Music:
0:00 - Miquella's Haligtree (Elden Ring OST)
3:03 - Elphael (Elden Ring OST)
7:32 - Malenia, Blade of Miquella (Elden Ring OST)
10:17 - The Nexus (Demon's Souls OG OST)
Does she have the ground explosions on her moves in phase 2?
my theory is that waterfowl dance proper is something malenia was supposed to do only in phase 2, given the way she launches herself at you. she has wings in that phase, so it would make sense to me. that, and fromsoft tends to like putting phase 2 signature attacks on the weapons they give, typically...
I don’t remember the name but someone on Twitter discovered that in 1.00 if your character does the snap gesture, they chuckle
You should try sleep on the Godskin Duo; they have a non-functional move where they can roar and wake each other up. It's probably still broken in 1.00 though. You can see the Apostle in the windmill village do it if you sleep the celebrants. I'm definitely glad they added a unique song to Elphael, as it's quite fitting. You should see how Loretta's spell works for the player and whether or not it matches the boss's 1.00 attack or her current patch attack.
The Godskin Duo thing is a shout, didn't think of checking that 👀 Also I'm pretty sure I checked Loretta spell, it did seem the same as normal, so didnt mention but given the actual boss, shoulda brought it up
epic video. I think that the cut attack should replace waterfowl in phase 1, but in phase 2 go back to the normal.
Hmmmm from a "power level" stand point that makes sense, but imagine not learning it as well bc you have to wait till phase 2 🥴 but then again waterfowl is probably the main reason we didnt make it to phase 2 more often, so might be onto something 🧐
This was the Melina i fought. Did the whole game on 1.00 cause i didn't have internet lol. Whole game is different in a sense
Geez that musta been rough, but shes just rough in general haha
Can't believe milli's sisters were implemented in that state, I had to cheese them with force on my 1.00 run
I tried cheesing with force as well on second character, even that was rough 😩 I wanted sweet release
The rot staff from the erdtree avatars in the haligtree is a random drop called Hammer of Rot
Oh damn really? Even though they don't respawn? 😅
@@BertoPlease yeah, it's pretty cruel
I just realized that some of the crafting arrows are missing from the current patch, the one that uses the prismatic feathered arrow is missing and I can't craft it anymore, same with some modifications on the armors, I can't modify the vanished armor chest piece and the helmet
It's possible that the Miquellan knight sword did magic dmg originally because it was meant for Loretta. At least that's what its current description seems to suggest considering that she is a former Carian knight and that the sword is embedded with amber like her mirrorshield. That mirrorshield's description also implies that Loretta is an albinauric and the older generation albinaurics lose their legs so perhaps Loretta never got that sword because her walking days are over and the war sickle is a better weapon for mounted combat.
Damn the big brain theories
the mirrorshield calls thr idea of Loretta being an Albinauric "absurd". she doesn't bleed silver.
@@grayfoxx4 not as absurd as "Radagon is Marika" and silver tears also bleed silver but they bleed red as soon as they start using the player model. So her not bleeding silver could be an oversight by the developer as her model is a reskinned tree sentinel.
Also, something you might not have noticed is that Malenia's 4 hit combo has 2 variations. A long and shot pause before the final strike. This is standard information, however, in ver 1.00 her long variation of the attack would start the combo with no sparks coming off her prosthetic. Pretty net .
Wow thats a very subtle difference
5:26 Millicent, her sisters as well as you yourself can still fall off the map even in the Release version.
Ah okay, noted, I'm so used to things not being allowed to these days haha
@@BertoPlease I had Millicent's sisters pushing Millicent off quite a few times in the Release version.
the spell icon is different at 2:40, interesting!
Oh oops didnt notice that haha
Does the spell also fire off one less arrow? Are you able to check that? I'd like to know in your next video if there's anything different about how it functions! O:
@@vesselfragment i'll double check tomorrow but i dont recall the arrow amount being less 🤔
Awesome! Super sick video btw :D
Rotten Winged Sword Insignia is called Pontiff's Right Eye +1（法王の右眼+1）in 1.00
Oh wow that's wild 👀 I've actually noticed some very subtle DS3 leftovers in some names of things, I think some of the Ash of War alternate names are straight from DS3 (but not just like "Square Off," its even more on the nose)
I dont think passive bonuses exist in 1.00 for armor pieces at least. The head pieces dont give any boost to intelligence or vigor. The only passive bonus i did find was the meteorite staff still boost gravity spells. I tested it with rock sling it doesn't say it but it does increase dmg passively, but Carian Regal and Lusats staff dont offer any unique bonuses aside from offering the same exact scaling at +9. So off hand meteorite for increase dmg is pretty solid for sorcery builds.
I shall give it a looksie 🧐
Clawmark's seal also have passive bonus for bestial incantations
That cut attack got brought back in the Convergence mod. I thought it was an original design by the modders. not a cut attack. That's cool but I'm honestly glad it was cut because it is way more annoying honestly.
I think they standardized projectile colors to clarify their element type.
Interestingly, the Elden Ring Convergence mod restores Malenia’s walking waterfowl dance. They also made waterfowl dance parryable, which is super funny to me.
Hahaha well tbf about parrying, you can parry a player using the ash of war, though it doesnt really do anything, they can just continue using the flurry
I really appreciate this. This is the first video, but now I’m checking the rest. Very cool.
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Im glad they cut the second waterfowl dance thingy. Elden Rings bosses can often be criticized for having attacks you as the player can not do anything about besides running away from it which of course isn’t really something that benefits the combat. This second version would slow down the fight even more than the one in the release version.
Very good critique, having specific attacks that you cant really punish is def meh for combat flow, at least when theres too many, and Malenia can def be one of those unless youre just willing to trade
@@BertoPlease yea. Although there’s always room for attacks like that in a fast paced fight like the orphan for example. When that thing uses it’s AOE circle you are able to breath for a second and apply buffs or just heal. Malenias bloom attack is an example of a well done pause between a tense fight. I think that boss would be so much fun if it weren’t for the waterfowl dance. The fact you can’t really dodge it without special tricks makes the player stay away from her the whole fight just to bait the dance. This hurts the pacing a lot. In that aspect the unused version looks even superior due to it having a proper window to react while standing right in front of her.
@@mt2r-music Mind you i dont entirely mind in the case of something like a "super attack," its supposed to be intimidating, thinking something like Rykards swing down, but that alone releases a lot of tension, while waterfowl dance doesnt really relieve much tension outside of "oh she MIGHT not do it for a little while" but of course theres no build up to it and can do that at the most unfortunate time. But yeah having 2 attacks kinda like that would be a lot
I think Malenia having the second waterfowl move that's way more manageable was a conscious decision, if you pay attention to her footwork, she's skipping(?) and makes it seem like she's flowing through the air. The much more aggressive (Current release) version was the one that survived mostly because of just having a more consistent harder learning curve I guess.
People would be probably just praying to RNG gods for her to use the slower version.
Interesting thought. What I can say from trying the boss fight a good amount of attempts, it seemed way less frequent than the current waterfowl, I dont think I'd even see it in some attempts
Her skipping on one foot is supposed to be a reference to waterfowls (cranes) hopping on one foot, if i remember correctly. So it's likely that it's just an early version of the dance that wasn't deleted yet.
Such a great series! Thank you for the entertainment you've provided :D
My pleasure 🐢
It seems the Meteorite staff doesnt have anything in its description about not being upgradeable, and the int scaling says B, so, if its not too much of a hassle, could you check if you can upgrade it in 1.00? I imagine a +10 meteorite staff would be quite something for sorcery builds lmao
you can't upgrade it in 1.00
I wanna fight 1.00 malenia again . I did it once and cost me 60 hours due to being under leveled and only having 30 vigor. Seeing you fight made me want to fight that version again. I already beat ver 1.00 malenia 3 times , what's one more...
you forgot to mention the dragon talisman that boosts damage negation vastly
I didnt mention it because it seemed the same to me :)
The normal crystallian that died in one hit is also holding all three of their weapons at thr same time.
Omg what i didnt notice that, gonna check the whole moveset of it at some point
Lol when I helped millicent on my 2nd playthrough the sisters kicked my ass! I didn't remember them being so hard
A youtuber named amir mentioned the cut walking waterfowl move, but I dont know if he knew it was still active in the 1.00 versiom.
Just from having a looksie at the title and thumbnail, my guess is they found this cut attack in the code on pc, but pc not having access to 1.00 directly means they probably didnt know the full context of it, which would make sense. I'll give it a watch sometime 👀
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I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD DO THIS TO THE DOG
🐢 I found changes tho
The original Waterfowl is so jank looking.😅 They probably couldn’t make the dancing attack flow together well. I think they could have make it similar to the Flowing Sword R2 chain (Obviously not the exact same move).
very interesting! again great content!
Why does it feel like every enemy is more aggressive and powerful lately?
When I first got the game over half a year ago, I got through the Haligtree no problem
Now I’m getting fucking slaughtered, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
Wtf I hang out with miriel when I'm waiting for invasions, I wish I could take him for a walk!
Fromsoft knows there community well if they programmed red on red violence In originally
Lmao I fucking know right?
Have a good day
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These statue effect is normal
But the first one is a new to me?
Oh thats madness, its purple in this version for some reason 🤔 i discuss it in Weeping Peninsula vid
guyz is the mushroom set farmable? yk those mushroom zombies in the haligtree?
Algormancy!
I'm surprised that no one in the comments pointed this out but that cut waterfowl dance is extremely similar to an attack that Okami Warriors can perform as well as the Spiral Cloud Passage ultimate skill in Sekiro. Some theorized that the scrapped contents for Sekiro dlc were repurposed for Elden Ring as there a lot of similarities that Malenia has to the main character of Sekiro as well as the rumored Tomoe cut dlc boss. That cut waterfowl dance move would fit perfectly into the setting of Sekiro.
One thing I would like to note, the scenarios where waterfowl is difficult to dodge (when she armors through an attack or is already super close) would be just as hard with this other waterfowl. Imagine if she was directly in front of him when she initiated it. Every part of the attack would string together and you would probably die. Maybe I’m missing something, but after fighting malenia a lot that attack still looks like a nightmare if you aren’t specifically baiting it out like seen in the video.
See 9:15 for example. At least with waterfowl you can sprint back and jump to dodge in that scenario or do the wrap around tech
@@evanmcdonald9134 i made a small note and maybe i shouldve actually discussed it but you do seem to be able to stagger her out of the cut waterfowl dance, at least with something like a jump attack, maybe with with other attacks you could too? Main reason I didn't show it is cause I did by accident at the very start of the animation so it's hard to even tell, maybe in the full video release I'll try it more consciously to show it better
@@BertoPlease ah ok that’s interesting. Wasn’t sure if you meant that attacks during it could knock her out (something like a great spear that can hit through her flurries), or that she could be whacked at the beginning. Either way, really interesting attack and kinda surprised they cut it
I have played this elden ring and bro the whole game in version 1.00 is harder than the other updates alot of items and buffs that help u in fight are not found and malenia is harder godfrey has 2 health that makes him very hard and almost the hardest boss in the game
Yeah 1.00 Godfrey was a nightmare makes pre nerf radahn look easy
This dude really attacked the dog Pope
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You hit the dog pope
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Hey man I am playing on this version but in 1.00 there is no hoarfrost stomp For exemple.. my question is if I update the game Will I have it even if I already kill the invisible creature who gives it to me?
You mean the ash of war alone? I got that one in 1.00, I just didn't find the Icerind Hatchet 🤔 But I guess if it bugged I'm not really sure if it'll show up, I'm guessing not?
@@BertoPlease I just understood that its name is Hoarfrost Step in 1.0 Version but it is just an example I gave you... So now if I update it and return to a place that have an new item in latest version I will found it normally?
@@Yassin_Has OH gotcha. Umm I'm not the one to ask since I haven't quite done that yet, I think someone told me that if theres an item you already looted in a chest, even if the item is different, it won't respawn? i imagine someone else can answer more definitively
@@BertoPlease thank you bro please if you try that make a video about it ..
Does anyone know what armor he had on the 1.00 run
The Mausoleum armor :) but its called Tomb Knight armor i think, you get it from Mausoleum knights
This whole place is fucked up man, I dies billion times 😂
Malenia was way easier back then I killed her 5 times during the last two weeks she hardly ever did the dance and the clones attack I even tried to bait those but got them about 1 or two times in 10 to 12 tries
I can understand why they cut that "now do you understand" 1.0 Malenia dialogue its makes her sound a little too arrogant. I'm also surprised that WA on the hand of malenia is named "Waterfowl dance" and not "Malenia's blade". I remembered seeing a 1.0 malenia vid and it was called that instead.
Sometimes the ash of war name is different in the hud when equipped rather than the item menu, so that could be the reason there, good note though, will check that sometime
if you didnt beat the game on 1.00 you didnt beat the game
Damn so Malenia was always garbage, was she still immune to stance breaks in this version?
Nah you could stance break her fairly reliably, I would say about on par to now
I just realized that some of the crafting arrows are missing from the current patch, the one that uses the prismatic feathered arrow is missing and I can't craft it anymore, same with some modifications on the armors, I can't modify the vanished armor chest piece and the helmet