Charles, thank you for sharing this stuff. I'm starting my first porting job on my personal 4910. And your videos help me so much it is unbelievable. I cannot thank you enough.
Every Echo/Shindy I have witnessed on your channel, absolutely rips, that would make an excellent lil saw up here in Alaska, for cutting trapline trails, also between it and a husky 346, would make an excellent log cabin building saw good work!!
I put an aluminum handle and capture nuts on my 4910 so I guess it’s a 501p now. All I did was a muffler mod, put more than enough power for what I use it for.
No problem I'm not a pro but I have fun at building them an this seems to be a great build for me an anybody that has ran one loves them light strong firewood saw that packs a punch thout if it helps anyone then awesome
How is it that big intake numbers on a 50cc working so well? Everything Ive learned has been to be very conservative with intakes on smaller saws. I went "radical with my 50 rancher at 77 and finger ports. Just asking, what you are doing is obviosly working.
I sent him a 501p to port I paid for it I still have it it's a great saw very strong too it has cut a lot of fire wood an not gave me one bit of a problem I don't now the numbers he uses on them I've never Ben into that one only him it's a real good saw I've Ben very happy with it
It's funny how you can have two of same model saws an the feel like two different saws an sound different I tend to run more blow down then most do an I tend to run split timing on transfers 2 to4 deg usually I like a broad tork curve I run more intake timing then most too seems to do it for me
@@CharlesBrisco I never have one rule of thumb. Some saws love long blowdown and some hate it. I do stagger the uppers. Some saws like a low exhaust some don’t. All depends on the saw and what the customer is asking for.
Whatt!! 102 ex and 81 intake? Doesn't this mean exhaust duration 156° and intake 162° I have never heard of anyone having more intake duration than exhaust. You seem to know what you are doing but I think I misunderstood something pls help
@@thomaslindroos1667 they build some wicked saws I just built how I think they shud be the intake lands there after I cut the base not much I can do but ad epoxy to the floor but they snap like lighting an no blow back thru carb so I runem that way
@@CharlesBrisco yea that does sound like a hassle to start epoxying the intake but yea this makes me less afraid of intake timing in the future. Keep the videos coming Charles!
Next up, building a small block Chevy on a broke budget that blows the doors off the door slammers on the streets with a real steel car .... Come on man, show em a car that twists with a cage on pump gas.
That's cool work and all but for all that effort just buy a bigger better saw THEN perform all that same work on it then you'll have something better than a above average limbing saw
If you watch any of his other videos he’s done this to ALOT of bigger saws. Also, nobody thought a Honda Civic would ever perform to V8 standards until people started modding them. The same logic applies here.
@@IndianaDoug Lol I understand that and my same logo also applies why waste your time modding A Honda Civic when you can mod a Camero or Mustang lol in the end you still have yourself a piece of crap Civic only a dumb teenager wld want 🤦🏽♂️
@@redman4076 that’s just it, we like big hot rods, where others like whatever else. I’m not gonna hate on em for it, apples and oranges thing really. Back to saws, not sure how much you know about 2 Strokes, but when you mod a larger displacement machine, on average it might yield 10-15% more power, which is good! But when you mod a smaller displacement machine with the same port work, you will get double that or more. I’ve ran 50cc saws that easily outrun 60cc saws. All that extra power, minus the weight, and still saving on fuel. Pretty good trade off if you spend 8-10 hours a day cutting.
@@redman4076 also, I’m not trying to argue about it, opinions are opinions, I for one can appreciate them. I’m simply trying to answer your question as to why someone would modify a smaller saw versus getting a larger one.
@@IndianaDoug I know plenty about chainsaws I've been running them hard for the last 25+ yrs I'm a commercial tree thinner plus I heat my home with firewood and supply plenty of others homes in my community with firewood and have built and rebuilt my fair share of them over the yrs Plus I've grown up around saws my whole life my dad and grandfather were loggers But like you said to each there own so whatever Just seems like a wast of time skill and resources on what imo is a beginner or home owner saw I've literally seen piles of blown saws that are in that category 🤷🏽♂️
Charles, thank you for sharing this stuff. I'm starting my first porting job on my personal 4910. And your videos help me so much it is unbelievable. I cannot thank you enough.
I'm glad they helped you out
Thanks for the specific info so people don't have to make wild guesses about numbers.
Me too, love the way my little stock 501 just digs in and pulls when it has to.
👍🆙CB, Super Dave hooked me up with a piston 4 my 490, I'll be working on it soon! Thanks 4 the knowledge and little talks!
Thanks Mr Brisco. Taking notes.
Every Echo/Shindy I have witnessed on your channel, absolutely rips, that would make an excellent lil saw up here in Alaska, for cutting trapline trails, also between it and a husky 346, would make an excellent log cabin building saw good work!!
I've not ported a346 yet but here there a sweet saw too I like saws with qwad ports
Best ported 50cc on you tube.
Echos are my favorite 50cc
Yep ol Fireball Brisco knows how to make a precison hard hitting flame in em . If he was into the 2stroke bicycle scene he'd be a top contender too
@@sundial6919 I was thinking the same thing today
Thanks for the tips...you build one hell of a saw brother 🤙🏻🪓😎
I just do the best I can I'm no pro
Still like my echos. That’s what fueled my passion to start with.
Good tips, good man👍🏻
Thanks for the tips! Them are some angry saws! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks I try an help everyone out
I put an aluminum handle and capture nuts on my 4910 so I guess it’s a 501p now. All I did was a muffler mod, put more than enough power for what I use it for.
I have 501 an 4910 I did full wraps on
Very well said. Solid build recipe for sure. Thank you for sharing
No problem I'm not a pro but I have fun at building them an this seems to be a great build for me an anybody that has ran one loves them light strong firewood saw that packs a punch thout if it helps anyone then awesome
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Much appreciated!
Ur 4910s are on point man amazing what u get out of 1!!!!!!
Thanks very appreciated 👍
I'd love to have a rippin 501p full wrap with a 24" bar to stand up and cut up firewood. could you build that?
I've had to cob up a bar on any thing bigger then a 20 on them
How do I get you to do a CS501p for me? If not you - who? (I'd really like one from you).
How is it that big intake numbers on a 50cc working so well? Everything Ive learned has been to be very conservative with intakes on smaller saws. I went "radical with my 50 rancher at 77 and finger ports. Just asking, what you are doing is obviosly working.
Its above my pay grade, lol 😆 how much for one that you can do for me, just the way you described?
Lol I have so much going on I does here an there I have 5 builds of my own I want to get to someday
How do I get on a list to have you build one of your unbelievable 4910's???? Im serious... I want it to pull a full size standard bar as well 24"
I have a 4910, what would you charge to work it over? I would love to have mine screaming
I'm not taking on work at the moment I do it more for a hobby for me
Looking for advice on a simple MM & tune. I dont need to port or anything.....I just want it running its best with no engine work.
Single 3/4 to 1in pipe
Echo 501 or husqvarna 450? 50cc
Those model echo are easy to port. My buddy Patrick Allred builds a lot of them. Egan gave you one too iirc
I sent him a 501p to port I paid for it I still have it it's a great saw very strong too it has cut a lot of fire wood an not gave me one bit of a problem I don't now the numbers he uses on them I've never Ben into that one only him it's a real good saw I've Ben very happy with it
@@CharlesBrisco Egan builds a good saw no doubt. Echo has definitely stepped up their game lately. Thankfully made some of them porting friendly
It's funny how you can have two of same model saws an the feel like two different saws an sound different I tend to run more blow down then most do an I tend to run split timing on transfers 2 to4 deg usually I like a broad tork curve I run more intake timing then most too seems to do it for me
@@CharlesBrisco I never have one rule of thumb. Some saws love long blowdown and some hate it. I do stagger the uppers. Some saws like a low exhaust some don’t. All depends on the saw and what the customer is asking for.
I don't know what any of that meant but it sounded cool
good vid dood!!!
How much for a ported jug?
I don't have any ported jugs forsale right now
Thank you
It's a strong build
Whatt!! 102 ex and 81 intake? Doesn't this mean exhaust duration 156° and intake 162° I have never heard of anyone having more intake duration than exhaust. You seem to know what you are doing but I think I misunderstood something pls help
I take my in take reading as piston comes down an just shuts port off with skirt I just had this build ran on a dyno it made over 5.5hp
@@CharlesBrisco I have no doubt, I'd just like a in depth reviews and theory it seems so contradictory to what tinman or iron-horse does
@@thomaslindroos1667 they build some wicked saws I just built how I think they shud be the intake lands there after I cut the base not much I can do but ad epoxy to the floor but they snap like lighting an no blow back thru carb so I runem that way
@@CharlesBrisco yea that does sound like a hassle to start epoxying the intake but yea this makes me less afraid of intake timing in the future. Keep the videos coming Charles!
Buy them up guys new version went clamshell
what is the new version? diff part number?
Next up, building a small block Chevy on a broke budget that blows the doors off the door slammers on the streets with a real steel car .... Come on man, show em a car that twists with a cage on pump gas.
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That's cool work and all but for all that effort just buy a bigger better saw THEN perform all that same work on it then you'll have something better than a above average limbing saw
If you watch any of his other videos he’s done this to ALOT of bigger saws.
Also, nobody thought a Honda Civic would ever perform to V8 standards until people started modding them. The same logic applies here.
@@IndianaDoug Lol I understand that and my same logo also applies why waste your time modding A Honda Civic when you can mod a Camero or Mustang lol in the end you still have yourself a piece of crap Civic only a dumb teenager wld want 🤦🏽♂️
@@redman4076 that’s just it, we like big hot rods, where others like whatever else. I’m not gonna hate on em for it, apples and oranges thing really. Back to saws, not sure how much you know about 2 Strokes, but when you mod a larger displacement machine, on average it might yield 10-15% more power, which is good! But when you mod a smaller displacement machine with the same port work, you will get double that or more. I’ve ran 50cc saws that easily outrun 60cc saws. All that extra power, minus the weight, and still saving on fuel. Pretty good trade off if you spend 8-10 hours a day cutting.
@@redman4076 also, I’m not trying to argue about it, opinions are opinions, I for one can appreciate them. I’m simply trying to answer your question as to why someone would modify a smaller saw versus getting a larger one.
@@IndianaDoug I know plenty about chainsaws I've been running them hard for the last 25+ yrs I'm a commercial tree thinner plus I heat my home with firewood and supply plenty of others homes in my community with firewood and have built and rebuilt my fair share of them over the yrs Plus I've grown up around saws my whole life my dad and grandfather were loggers But like you said to each there own so whatever Just seems like a wast of time skill and resources on what imo is a beginner or home owner saw I've literally seen piles of blown saws that are in that category 🤷🏽♂️