Bonding carbon to aluminum is a very specific process that cannot be left to the individual- the liability would be tremendous. A modular system would also require different strings and cables if changing the tube length.
If it is a forgiving bow this could be what people are looking for. When I started in the early 90s I had a Pearson with the old round wheel cams . It was very forgiving. I could hit the eyeball on my target shooting flat ground. But when we started shooting 3D we just didn’t have the speed to hit the longer harder shots. Then we got into the more advanced bows like PSE but we gave up some of the forgiveness. We had to be better shots. Now they have the speed and power. But now they’re advancing in to the balance between that and a smooth draw and forgiveness.
I would give it a couple of years. Just like so many other bow manufacturers they will add accessories if it takes off. That and if there any bugs to work out I don't want to find out as a consumer
I think that bow is really cool. Also, Sevr's have treated me very well the last 4 years. I don't see any reasons to shoot anything else. I have 2 hybrids in my quiver, but I haven't got to launch one yet.
@@Ep2.0-o7i 4 limbs to 8 is what I meant, and there wasnt a ton of backlash....even when they had a small percentage of limb failures. Prime does something different and people act like its the end of the world.
@jayminer9416 why would there be backlash over a limb style. The fact that your still complaining over a new limb style though that came out 3 bows ago says they are getting hate over it, especially since literally every company tweaks there limbs all the time. That's such a small change that was most likely necessary or they wouldnt have done it. And yes there was backlash over the limbs way more than most companies who have issues all the time and you already forgot about them. It was also a very small percentage of bows and look at you still bringing it up. Even though it happened to maybe 1 percent.
1 of the BIGGEST Marketing Scams to hit the Archery world in years. Just a reminder, Prime's 2012 Centroid weighed exactly 4lbs.at 34.25" ATA, w/ an all aluminum riser, 7" brace height & a true 335 fps IBO at literally 1/2 the price of the Form. Seriously folks, STOP falling for these Marketing scams & these Manufacturers will stop ripping off the Customer.
I've been trying to work out whether they are saying they made the edges of the limb pockets narrower or whether they've narrowed the width of the limbs. Looking at the pics of last years bows it looks like they've maintained the width of the limbs but made the edges of the limb pocket more streamlined? That's a pure guess though as it's unlikely I'll see Prime bows in the flesh to be able check it - I don't think there are any Prime dealers in my country!
I don't see the benefit of the carbon tubes. There are lighter all aluminum bows. Bonding 8 points together creates more opportunity for something to go wrong if any step is fouled up in the manufacturing/assembly process. Narrowing the limb pockets doesn't make much sense to me. I'll be curious to see how this years flagship bow sales compare to last years, for Prime. Aesthetics matter - it is what it is - and a significant amount of conversation is happening regarding how people feel about the looks of this bow. Many of us know Prime bows hold and shoot very well. Unfortunately, their lack of marketing doesn't publicize that very well. Due to sub-par name recognition, Prime doesn't sell as well as Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, or even PSE. Customers shoot them and like them, and still buy the other brands due to name recognition. Now couple that with the mixed reviews on the appearance of this bow, and I think Prime isn't going to have the year they were hoping for, and that's unfortunate - they truly are a fantastic bow. In my opinion, the company to watch in the coming years is Xpedition Archery. Forget about carbon, forget about aluminum - MAGNITE is better yet. 3.9lbs for a 35" ATA bow, whereas the Prime Form is 4.1lbs for a 34" ATA. The price point isn't ridiculous for it either. They just need to get in to bowhops, and move away from direct-to-consumer sales.
It will be super easy to change the riser/ata length. Can’t wait for a longer ata, longer draw model of this bow. Something comparable to the Rival LD.
@In-The-Wild-Outdoors guessing you don't want to answer my question because there are no bows or you just don't like the fact that you got called out and can even defend your self without proving your pervious comment wrong. So i name xpedition as a lighter bow but it's not aluminum, which is what you said there are lighter aluminum bows so name an a aluminum bow at the 34 to 35 ata that are lighter the prime form
@@davemartin660 Oh jeesh. Get over yourself. I have more important things to do than to debate a keyboard commando. Lighter aluminum bows, here ya go: Mathews Classic (36" @ 3.63lbs), Bowtech 101st AirBorne (36.25" @ 4.1lbs), PSE Drive (33" @ 3.9lbs). I could keep going. But lets talk riser lengths. The Lift 33 (yes an inch shorter ATA), but has a riser that's 3.5" longer than the Form (which has a 30" riser) and the Lift 33 weighs 4.26lbs- that's 2.4 ounces difference in weight for a bow with a longer riser. 2.4oz is completely insignificant. 1" in ATA, also insignificant. 3.5" difference in riser length IS significant. So again, what was really achieved by bonding carbon rods to eight connection points in three pieces of aluminum? I surely hope that each of those 8 bonds is 100% correct, 100% of the time. Bonding carbon to non-carbon objects is a specific process, and I'm sure they have it right and do it right. I just hope its repeatable. We've all recently seen what happens when limbs aren't bonded correctly 100% of the time. And that was less than 1% of all bows sold. So you're upset because you're a Prime fanboy, and I don't like your bow. Put your big pants on today. If this is the stuff that upsets you, you're in for a hard life. Objectivity is actually a desirable trait. Unfortunately, too many fail to foster the ability to be objective. Now, come talk to me next year at this time, and let's see how the Form has sold compared to previous flagship bows from Prime. Prime makes great bows, and they sell well considering their low-level marketing - this bow just isn't going to be one that will sell as well as others, regardless of how well it shoots. In previous years you've not heard as much complaining about the aesthetics of any bow as what the Form is receiving so far. This bow should be paired up with Mathews UV Slider for 2025's most roasted products. If you like the Form and want to shoot it, go ahead. I'm sure it's another great shooting bow from Prime. What you shoot has no affect on me, just as my choice of bows (and my opinion), should have no affect on you and what you shoot. It's really okay if I don't like your bow. Really .. it is. Just don't tell me you also drive a Cybertruck ... because I have jokes for days about how that thing looks. Lighten up. Smile. It makes life more enjoyable. I hope you and yours have a wonderful holiday season.
Interesting. It probably wouldn't look so weird if they just matched the tube color with the riser color 🤷♂️
The potential for these tubes to be modular is off the charts.
Great review dude
Bonding carbon to aluminum is a very specific process that cannot be left to the individual- the liability would be tremendous. A modular system would also require different strings and cables if changing the tube length.
Love seeing people take risks and develop new tech
They been using this carbon to aluminum/titanium lugs on mountain bikes for a few years now.Works out real well.
Brilliant engineering. I think it's cool.
If it is a forgiving bow this could be what people are looking for. When I started in the early 90s I had a Pearson with the old round wheel cams . It was very forgiving. I could hit the eyeball on my target shooting flat ground. But when we started shooting 3D we just didn’t have the speed to hit the longer harder shots. Then we got into the more advanced bows like PSE but we gave up some of the forgiveness. We had to be better shots. Now they have the speed and power. But now they’re advancing in to the balance between that and a smooth draw and forgiveness.
It has a different sound !!! Are the carbon tubes hollow as this might be where this sound is coming from.?
I would give it a couple of years. Just like so many other bow manufacturers they will add accessories if it takes off. That and if there any bugs to work out I don't want to find out as a consumer
Wow
Looks awesome
I generally don't like light bows, but the stiff riser makes me want to try one.
I think that bow is really cool. Also, Sevr's have treated me very well the last 4 years. I don't see any reasons to shoot anything else. I have 2 hybrids in my quiver, but I haven't got to launch one yet.
Tubular dude
To answer your question Hoyt they thought of that when they didn’t no what they were doing either lol
Oh damn scotty. Whats the ticket?? Im gonna have to come in and test that one.
PRETTY COOL BOW
Sweet. How does someone get their hands on a shirt like that
Shirt is from Justin at Bear River Archery in Van Alstyne, TX
The bow when you run out of ideas
Funny how no one says that about Mathews.
@jayminer9416 when youre the best selling bow by far why would you change it up a bunch
@@Ep2.0-o7i 4 limbs to 8 is what I meant, and there wasnt a ton of backlash....even when they had a small percentage of limb failures. Prime does something different and people act like its the end of the world.
@jayminer9416 why would there be backlash over a limb style. The fact that your still complaining over a new limb style though that came out 3 bows ago says they are getting hate over it, especially since literally every company tweaks there limbs all the time. That's such a small change that was most likely necessary or they wouldnt have done it. And yes there was backlash over the limbs way more than most companies who have issues all the time and you already forgot about them. It was also a very small percentage of bows and look at you still bringing it up. Even though it happened to maybe 1 percent.
@@Ep2.0-o7i Im not complaining about it at all. I dont have a dog in that fight. Just drawing a comparison is all.
1 of the BIGGEST Marketing Scams to hit the Archery world in years. Just a reminder, Prime's 2012 Centroid weighed exactly 4lbs.at 34.25" ATA, w/ an all aluminum riser, 7" brace height & a true 335 fps IBO at literally 1/2 the price of the Form. Seriously folks, STOP falling for these Marketing scams & these Manufacturers will stop ripping off the Customer.
What are you shooting?
@@jayminer9416 I have multiple, but the bow of choice is the 1 listed in the post.
Who’s this kid that he gets to shoot it before others lol wtf also damn corn feed hunters gotta make sure he puts his eyeliner on 😂
I can’t wait to see them in person deff gunna be an attention grabber and I see more people using a prime
Every other company is going wider limb pockets for stability and prime went narrower?…….so whos right lol
Id wager there comes a point where the stability benefits cease, Id also wager they tested that....since they're an Engineering company.
Interesting nobody has them in stock not even Lancaster Archery yet here it is on UA-cam go figure
Picked mine up on Saturday.
Lost me at the more narrow limb pockets. If I’ve learned anything shooting my title and how it points, wider limb pockets are a lot more stable.
I've been trying to work out whether they are saying they made the edges of the limb pockets narrower or whether they've narrowed the width of the limbs. Looking at the pics of last years bows it looks like they've maintained the width of the limbs but made the edges of the limb pocket more streamlined? That's a pure guess though as it's unlikely I'll see Prime bows in the flesh to be able check it - I don't think there are any Prime dealers in my country!
I don't see the benefit of the carbon tubes. There are lighter all aluminum bows. Bonding 8 points together creates more opportunity for something to go wrong if any step is fouled up in the manufacturing/assembly process. Narrowing the limb pockets doesn't make much sense to me. I'll be curious to see how this years flagship bow sales compare to last years, for Prime. Aesthetics matter - it is what it is - and a significant amount of conversation is happening regarding how people feel about the looks of this bow. Many of us know Prime bows hold and shoot very well. Unfortunately, their lack of marketing doesn't publicize that very well. Due to sub-par name recognition, Prime doesn't sell as well as Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, or even PSE. Customers shoot them and like them, and still buy the other brands due to name recognition. Now couple that with the mixed reviews on the appearance of this bow, and I think Prime isn't going to have the year they were hoping for, and that's unfortunate - they truly are a fantastic bow. In my opinion, the company to watch in the coming years is Xpedition Archery. Forget about carbon, forget about aluminum - MAGNITE is better yet. 3.9lbs for a 35" ATA bow, whereas the Prime Form is 4.1lbs for a 34" ATA. The price point isn't ridiculous for it either. They just need to get in to bowhops, and move away from direct-to-consumer sales.
It will be super easy to change the riser/ata length. Can’t wait for a longer ata, longer draw model of this bow. Something comparable to the Rival LD.
Name a aluminum bow that weights less that's 34 Ata
@@davemartin660 how about a 35” bow that weighs less and is made of magnesium?
@In-The-Wild-Outdoors guessing you don't want to answer my question because there are no bows or you just don't like the fact that you got called out and can even defend your self without proving your pervious comment wrong.
So i name xpedition as a lighter bow but it's not aluminum, which is what you said there are lighter aluminum bows so name an a aluminum bow at the 34 to 35 ata that are lighter the prime form
@@davemartin660 Oh jeesh. Get over yourself. I have more important things to do than to debate a keyboard commando. Lighter aluminum bows, here ya go: Mathews Classic (36" @ 3.63lbs), Bowtech 101st AirBorne (36.25" @ 4.1lbs), PSE Drive (33" @ 3.9lbs). I could keep going. But lets talk riser lengths. The Lift 33 (yes an inch shorter ATA), but has a riser that's 3.5" longer than the Form (which has a 30" riser) and the Lift 33 weighs 4.26lbs- that's 2.4 ounces difference in weight for a bow with a longer riser. 2.4oz is completely insignificant. 1" in ATA, also insignificant. 3.5" difference in riser length IS significant. So again, what was really achieved by bonding carbon rods to eight connection points in three pieces of aluminum? I surely hope that each of those 8 bonds is 100% correct, 100% of the time. Bonding carbon to non-carbon objects is a specific process, and I'm sure they have it right and do it right. I just hope its repeatable. We've all recently seen what happens when limbs aren't bonded correctly 100% of the time. And that was less than 1% of all bows sold.
So you're upset because you're a Prime fanboy, and I don't like your bow. Put your big pants on today. If this is the stuff that upsets you, you're in for a hard life. Objectivity is actually a desirable trait. Unfortunately, too many fail to foster the ability to be objective.
Now, come talk to me next year at this time, and let's see how the Form has sold compared to previous flagship bows from Prime. Prime makes great bows, and they sell well considering their low-level marketing - this bow just isn't going to be one that will sell as well as others, regardless of how well it shoots. In previous years you've not heard as much complaining about the aesthetics of any bow as what the Form is receiving so far. This bow should be paired up with Mathews UV Slider for 2025's most roasted products.
If you like the Form and want to shoot it, go ahead. I'm sure it's another great shooting bow from Prime. What you shoot has no affect on me, just as my choice of bows (and my opinion), should have no affect on you and what you shoot. It's really okay if I don't like your bow. Really .. it is. Just don't tell me you also drive a Cybertruck ... because I have jokes for days about how that thing looks.
Lighten up. Smile. It makes life more enjoyable. I hope you and yours have a wonderful holiday season.
Its ugly
I think the opposite.
Ugly, sorry maybe it grow on me,l.
Ahh, seems gimmicky to me.
Like 8 limbs gimmicky?
@jayminer9416 yeah about the same level of gimmicky I would say.
Ugliest bow ever