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  • How do systems internally communicate?
    Silver does their best to explain.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @thetrashcansystem
    @thetrashcansystem 4 роки тому +455

    This one's really interesting. I'd always been a lil skeptical about how quiet my system is. I get sparks of thoughts here and there, and often how Silver mentioned thoughts that just come at you in an instant, not knowing where they come from or feeling like they're alien. but then more often than not I'm feeling a mix of emotions and having a hard time discerning who I am from the others. like a constant identity crisis.

    • @phoenixsystem6746
      @phoenixsystem6746 4 роки тому +10

      Same!

    • @goblinzed3078
      @goblinzed3078 4 роки тому +8

      Same

    • @gekegebraad3666
      @gekegebraad3666 4 роки тому +10

      Oo same, glad I'm not the only one

    • @theblanketfortcohort7332
      @theblanketfortcohort7332 4 роки тому +19

      Yeah, with me, my thoughts are so loud anyway that I tend to miss things unless they're emotions/images. I find writing helps, because I'm basically shutting up and letting them tell me what to write.
      Also constant identity crisis is so relatable!!!

    • @randomstuff4874
      @randomstuff4874 3 роки тому +7

      Same here.. so hard to tell with thoughts, emotions, or pictures(pictures come in more of a sentence describing a picture or activity).. we are an extremely new system..

  • @MyahCat824
    @MyahCat824 4 роки тому +98

    I remember sitting around watching the news and the thought "Hm I wonder what Obama would think if he were here today" and I was like "yeah . . wait WHAT?!" still cant figure out if it was me or not lmao

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +21

      Haha, that's a mood! Take a note for later ❤️

  • @med3049
    @med3049 4 роки тому +237

    We have a little who does not talk. His internal communication has always been emotions and images. Recently, he and I have been learning ASL (American Sign Language). He has taken a strong liking to ASL and picks it up fast. Lately, his internal communication has included "images" of the signs for what he is saying. Just a couple of weeks ago he was playing with his stuffies and was signing to them. I thought it was really great. He has found a way to communicate both internally and externally. To help facilitate communication between him and our therapist, he has qualified to have an ASL interpreter present during therapy sessions.

    • @your-fellow-scp1714
      @your-fellow-scp1714 11 місяців тому +6

      that is honestly adorable

    • @PitXRoxas
      @PitXRoxas 11 місяців тому +4

      ohh thats so cool!! we have an alter just like that-- he speaks purely ASL but voices around our family because we're constantly masking. It's so cool to have someone else to relate to :)

  • @hazeld8016
    @hazeld8016 4 роки тому +191

    To me internal communication feels like telepathic suggestion. I'll suddenly get these thoughts that sound just like my thoughts (I don't hear voices) but I can immediately tell that they're not mine. It's hard to describe but I think telepathy is the best way to understand it lol

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +39

      Accurate!!!

    • @tammy181
      @tammy181 4 роки тому +22

      I totally understand what you are saying, I do hear their voices sometimes, but most of the time it is like telepathic thoughts, and totally not my thought pattern.

    • @kyrabytes563
      @kyrabytes563 4 роки тому +3

      Accurate!!!

    • @alyssabeth6177
      @alyssabeth6177 4 роки тому +5

      Feeling so valid right now because this is how I hear them (:

  • @fanpet3912
    @fanpet3912 4 роки тому +167

    4:16
    THIS RIGHT HERE
    I didn't realise that that was a form of internal communication, so I always thought I was faking it since when I tried to make sense of it via words I felt like I was lagging behind, like I had to try to think up communication instead of just coming naturally. Now I relaise that it did come naturally, and my brain was just trying to process it in a way that felt more normal.

  • @crownedcreeps
    @crownedcreeps 4 роки тому +79

    watching this video Alex communicated to me a picture of him sticking his tong out at me and the sound of him sarcastically yelling "LIKE THIS?????"
    Very mature we are -Rudolph

    • @dvdh4856
      @dvdh4856 4 роки тому +5

      This made me laugh, thank you

  • @morbidinsomniac822
    @morbidinsomniac822 4 роки тому +110

    In 2001 I got married. I then got into an argument with a part of me. Fought back and forth because she didn't want to be married. To the point where I was crying over it. I knew this to be normal but my husband said it wasn't typical. So I went to a psychiatrist and she suggested I might have more than 1 part to me. I became furious and didn't see another professional until 3 years ago. Then she suggested the same thing. It has been confusing. I think mostly because i thought it was all normal.

    • @tammy181
      @tammy181 4 роки тому +11

      I have been married a while and I still have a part that hates being married, so that part
      just goes away into the internal world when the hubby is around, when he goes to work, she pops back out, I thought I was losing my mind until I was diagnosed with DID, I am glad
      to read another person's comment about DID and marriage. For me it is complicated to have a part that doesn't want to be married, we fought to the point of depression, thank goodness the depression is better. It is hard having a lot of parts, but we are learning to get along. My doctor put me on Paxil and that has helped, Paxil is not for everyone, but it works for me, it helps me cope with all the parts in my system.

  • @thevoyagesystem
    @thevoyagesystem 4 роки тому +65

    We seem to fluctuate between near crystal clear, almost verbal thoughts and an ability to sense someone cofronting and such, to just not understanding at all who said what and who feels what way about what thing. The blendy times make things so confusing for us and it feels so invalidating.
    This video was actually really helpful though. Just knowing that its normal and ok to have these moments is so nice. 🍀

  • @kyrabytes563
    @kyrabytes563 4 роки тому +28

    I have been trying to understand what was happening to me all the time, I searched videos but all told me "if you don't have amnesia, you don't have anything" "If you remember your switches, you don't have anything" "if you trauma was like this, you don't have anything" but i found you and literally this is me, like everything I heard from you is basically me and my relationship with these voice I have since i don't even remember when and i need to thank you, because I don't feel like I'm alone anymore

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +2

      I'm glad we could help ❤️ We felt similarly when figuring it out years ago too :)

  • @sad_doggo2504
    @sad_doggo2504 4 роки тому +68

    We're a really blendy system so our thoughts/feelings get mixed up and muddled all the time. This morning, an alter who spent the whole night being P.O.'d at someone suddenly reacted to something little he did as if it were the cutest thing ever and smiled at him. It was really funny, from my perspective haha. ^_^ So for us, it's important to have a lot of details on who everyone is, what their traits are, what they like/dislike, what they tend to act like in most situations, and that way we can distinguish between whose thoughts/feelings are whose, who's blending with who, etc. I think this could work for other systems that are blendy, like us. :3 -Cub
    (this is in response to knowing whether or not a thought belongs to you if that wasn't clear!

  • @letterborneVods
    @letterborneVods 4 роки тому +29

    Lately I’ve been experiencing something weird. When I just lie there in my bed and think, sometimes random words/thoughts pop up in my head, somewhat related to my own train of thoughts, but they’re not really part of it. I can’t pinpoint exactly what’s so different about them. They’re still my thoughts, but I’m not the one forming them. Yesterday I heard myself thinking my own name very loudly and I startled. It really doesn’t happen a lot, but it’s weird and now I’m worried that I’m making this up because I’ve been watching these videos. I have a history of making things up and manipulating myself. I’ve always had issues with telling the barriers between myself and other people ... I don’t know. I just felt like sharing that thought, I guess.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +5

      I hope things are easy to figure out ❤️❤️

  • @alis4681
    @alis4681 4 роки тому +40

    I just wanted to chime in and say it is possible to have internal communication right off the bat. I've actually had communication since before I was diagnosed. That's one of the things that tipped me off about having did. You may have heard this from other systems but I wanted to comment my experience so others could see it as well.
    I also wanted to add I'm happy to share I just officially got diagnosed today! I've had symptoms for years but I finally found a good therapist. I've been watching your videos for a while and they have been EXTREMELY helpful. Thank you for all that you do and much love to you and all the other systems out there!
    -The Gem System

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +5

      Woooo!!!! I'm so glad y'all got diagnosed! We believe in y'all keep doing great! 💕

  • @Lisalis7
    @Lisalis7 4 роки тому +34

    I am learning so much about how internal communication works thanks for uploading such great content!

  • @onlineskitty
    @onlineskitty Рік тому +6

    im still in the denial part of the figuring out stage and it's honestly really hard not to think its just me talking to myself even if there's evidence to suggest otherwise. most of us dont really have an inner voice so its hard to pick apart what are my thoughts and what are someone else's. there have been some times where i thought someone was talking to me but it turned out to be myself which only contributed to my imposter syndrome. i wish it were easier to figure out tbh

  • @meatpeopledoingmeatthings7118
    @meatpeopledoingmeatthings7118 3 роки тому +7

    thanks for this. I didn’t know what was happening until a breakdown where my boyfriend who has another girlfriend (poly not cheating lmao) with DID and Told me what he though was going on. Pretty quickly actually an alter I had thought was my own thoughts started communicating separately. It’s been such a relief for all of us to start working together, it’s not perfect, there’s so many fights still but I have a foot in the door. I’m able to start the line of communication and it’s been so relieving. Knowing this is normal, that I’m not insane, that everything I’ve experienced is something my brain had me experience.
    I honestly wouldn’t be so upbeat if I didn’t have my boyfriend to lean on and I can’t even imagine what it’s like for systems who don’t have anyone to lean on or don’t feel seen. I hope the world becomes a better easier world for everyone. Sorry a bit dissociated haha I might be going off on tangents but the point is thank you. I feel so much better about everything.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  3 роки тому +1

      I’m so glad to hear you have that support!! I hope discovery goes (and has gone) smoothly 💕

  • @apsuenbwyfer11
    @apsuenbwyfer11 2 роки тому +3

    Before I found out I was a system, I had found the trick that forcing myself to verbalise or construct sentences to describe the thoughts I'm having in an internal conversation will force me to slow down, and can prevent things from spiralling into a breakdown. I think practicing this might have inadvertently made internal communication raiser once I discovered my alters lmao.

  • @kane2906
    @kane2906 4 роки тому +11

    How does this relate to intrusive thoughts? I get intrusive thoughts sometimes and it's like someone's just importing all of these horrible things into my head and I can't stop it. There have been times when I'm just thinking, and I kinda get the image and feeling and sense of a child screaming inside my head..

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +14

      Our intrusive thoughts still feel like "my thoughts" just... bad and horrible and unwanted. Often, internal communication will "feel" like it's coming from far away, or "sent" from someone else in our experience! Hope that helps :)

  • @keithkaitlinreynolds808
    @keithkaitlinreynolds808 4 роки тому +10

    I love your videos, i just want to point out the mind-voice-volume thing is variable based on your musical training.
    Musicians are capable of audiating at different dynamics because they've trained themselves to do this. With proper exercises and training, one can carry multiple layers of the medium at varied volumes like a mixingboard.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +3

      Oh that’s so interesting!! I wonder what the difference would be between trained volume and 3rd party thought from an alter. Thanks for sharing!

  • @brokennoodle8731
    @brokennoodle8731 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you sooo much! I have been a but confused bc we mainly have images, and the feeling is sooooo weird with internal communication. Im tryna improve internal communication bc i struggle a lot.
    -rosie

  • @poppysquids
    @poppysquids 4 роки тому +33

    I'm trying to figure out if I have osdd but the problem is I also have adhd (diagnosed as a child) so I'm always like... Is this an ADHD thought or am I getting a communication

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +19

      A whole mood sldkjglskdjf
      I wish we had answers but we don't have ADHD (to my knowledge) and couldn't give a good example/comparison thingy

    • @poppysquids
      @poppysquids 4 роки тому +6

      @@TheRingsSystem you're blessed just for making the videos you do , don't worry about it ♡

    • @tiredatm3009
      @tiredatm3009 4 роки тому +6

      Oh my god same!! It's so confusing and tiring to be honest

    • @dvdh4856
      @dvdh4856 4 роки тому +1

      tiredatm same! Did either of you find more clarity on whether or not you have osdd?

    • @SquiddlyInk
      @SquiddlyInk 3 роки тому +4

      @@dvdh4856 Hey! I was scrolling through the comments and wanted to add my 2 cents into the mix.
      Most (if not all) mental conditions have overlapping syndromes so the best way for you to truly understand is for you to speak to a professional! If you're from America I understand first hand how tried our medical system is and how little mental health / mental conditions are talked about -
      It took me from the time I was in first grade to up until I turned 19 (22 now) for me to even recognize that something wasn't normal (what's normal anyway?) and then a year or two for my family to accept it and finally schedule me an appointment with somebody.
      (I was diagnosed with depression and GAD when I was younger but they both seemed like a piece of the problem as ssris would help with depression but not anything else - aka i still felt like an alien just without depression lol)
      I am now on an SSRI and Adderall for adhd but I find myself feeling the same - like an alien - just without depression and also feel motivated to actually accomplish goals.. yay adderall lol
      My point being is that if you have an inkling that you may have osdd - which based on your comment i assume you do - Until you can get in to see a professional start doing research! Try and learn some (healthy!) coping mechanisms that people with osdd use.
      Most importantly, try to recognize when you may be in the vices of the thought pattern known as 'Imposter syndrome'.... Its nothing to be ashamed of - many many many people get stuck in it (including me) but it serves no real purpose other than to instill self-doubt.
      Finallllly i would like to leave off with this,
      Before I went in to see a therapist (specializing in adhd) I already was living my life as if I had adhd - because whether I have adhd, bipolar, or osdd - a diagnosis only serves as a way to deepen your understanding of yourself (and as validation of course).
      The coping mechanisms don't really matter (in terms of not having a therapist) what matters more is that you are consciously participating in becoming a more well-rounded individual! (please note that this 100% does not include medication or self-medicating-- only the coping mechanisms such as journaling for example)
      Best of luck to you on your journey and trust your gut! It's telling you something for a reason!

  • @gaiaoffline
    @gaiaoffline 2 роки тому +1

    I've been binging you're videos in no specific order and 1. Silver is so intelligent and expressive and cute 2. This was an exceptional video on explaining how other alters thoughts can interupt your own, I never even thought about the fact that my thoughts didn't specifically raise or lower with wispers or shouts! That really gives a good example of what someone else's voice in a presumably singlette head could be like!
    I'm pretty sure I'm a singlette but I've been trying to figure things out at my own pace, and this was a very eye opening video!

  • @lil.seedling
    @lil.seedling 2 роки тому

    wow I have never been able to put this into words. the whole example of having multiple witnesses reacting to an experience with me and not being able to verbalize it and keep up. eye opening thank u !!!!

  • @mistwalker11
    @mistwalker11 9 місяців тому

    Love your content, thank you!

  • @Drmorganaurora
    @Drmorganaurora 4 роки тому +3

    Great job again!

  • @Prof_Granpuff
    @Prof_Granpuff Рік тому

    We finally are at a place where we‘re ready for therapy, and this is TOTALLY our first priority so that we can better work together. Thanks for all your content, it‘s great to watch and rewatch

  • @zeefeer0543
    @zeefeer0543 3 роки тому +6

    Hello! Your videos are fascinating. I love the way Silver explains things - you seem like you're a great teacher. I have not been diagnosed with osdd or anything, and I am on the autism spectrum. There are (very rarely) instances in which thoughts feel like they are being projected into my brain. For example: I saw a boy in my dream that I felt a very strange connection to. The next morning, I was thinking of him, and in my head asked "what's your name?" and I heard "Adrian". It felt like somebody else talking, but I only heard it with my head, not my ears, and it was very loud! I also had similar thoughts before and they were all loud. Now that I'm thinking about it, my chest feels tight, and I feel like there is somebody behind me (I often get that feeling, I thought it was anxiety, but it's very random, so I don't know), like I'm not alone. Should I bring this up with my therapist? Does anybody know if this is normal for people with ASD? I don't want to make myself worry, but I also feel in therapy it's best to not leave any stones unturned hhahahah.
    p.s. silver is such a badass name!

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you! I think it’s always worthwhile to bring stuff up in therapy if you can, like you said - best not to leave any stones unturned. Hope the discovery process goes well! :)

  • @jayden2000
    @jayden2000 4 роки тому +5

    The only reason I think I'm faking is because I don't hear voices.
    I do get thoughts, sometimes they're very triggering and harmful to me, never telling me to hurt myself, but just very disturbing thoughts that I would not want myself to think.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +4

      Very few people I’ve met with DID hear alters as external, auditory voices! It’s all internal things that feel like thoughts for us :)

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +4

      Also! You should look up + research “intrusive thoughts” - which can occur (and very often do occur as a co-morbid trauma response) alongside DID/OSDD. (So you can have both).

    • @jayden2000
      @jayden2000 4 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem I have aphantasia, I can't imagine things unless I've seen them before. But sometimes I get images or imaginations of very disturbing things that I couldn't have made myself because I can't come up with images in my mind except for memories... some of them are very traumatic-like, very disturbing. I won't go in detail because I don't wanna trigger anyone, but they're very unsettling and graphic :(

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +4

      I'm sorry you're experiencing that :( I can't diagnose you with anything, and it could be from anything - either alters, or intrusive thoughts/images/memories. Stay strong ❤️

    • @jayden2000
      @jayden2000 4 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem do you have twitter? if so i'd like to follow you 🥺

  • @suejorgensen46
    @suejorgensen46 3 роки тому

    Thank you Silver!

  • @DIDToddlers
    @DIDToddlers 3 роки тому

    Omg I love the projection description! We feel that all the time lol

  • @DelennD
    @DelennD 4 роки тому +2

    Love this! Really helps us understand our communication better!

  • @maidoflight5834
    @maidoflight5834 4 роки тому +1

    This is a perfect explination, thanks!!

  • @melissagibsonart
    @melissagibsonart 4 роки тому

    loved this video!

  • @myshreksbox
    @myshreksbox 3 роки тому +3

    I have decent internal communication but it gets kinda annoying when they don’t shut up when I’m trying sleep

  • @tayva4977
    @tayva4977 Рік тому +1

    I- wow- thank you!! I thought we could only communicate with words- this makes a lot more sense now- we have been communicating for years before I realised were a system- woah 😮Damn- this changes everything- thank you so much for this vidoe-!! Helped us out a lot -Taylor (Host)

  • @MaskedNozza
    @MaskedNozza 3 роки тому +6

    This is honestly sounding a bit like your Passive Influence video.
    The volume analogy is great! Ian actually has been surprised a couple of times to the point of actually jumping because someone yelled something internally 😆
    I've yet to experience that myself but I would guess such a thing would come from Butch or Renata if it were to come from anyone
    "Strengthening internal communication is actually a huge goal in therapy" - 😟 I wish our therapist knew this. We have no communication at present and both our therapists change the subject when I bring it up. We don't have an official diagnosis yet but I wish they would start working on solutions now instead of waiting the extra 6 months for a diagnosis before helping. I know this is an old video and you might not see this comment, but if you do I would find it incredibly helpful if Silver or anyone from the Rings System did a video on practical things I could try to improve internal communication.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you! And yeah, internal communication is tecnicalllyyyy passive influence! And gosh, I wish we could do a video on that, but we really suck at strengthening internal communication. The best advice we have is take notes, spend time each day trying to talk to each other and connect, and do your best to listen to each other.

    • @MaskedNozza
      @MaskedNozza 3 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem well I have indeed been keeping our therapy journal filled in every day I can in the 4 months I've existed here, and I do keep trying to let everyone in headspace/dormancy know that I'm here when they're ready to come back out. It's exhausting trying to be so available and not have any response for 4 months. I'll just have to keep trying I guess. Thanks for the tips
      - Jamie (host)

  • @cooldude3331
    @cooldude3331 3 роки тому +2

    ok so i have an incredibly smart alter and he sometimes litterally shows me a "video" of what will happen at random times

  • @strangewish5051
    @strangewish5051 Рік тому

    I come back to this video to remind myself that communication DOES NOT have to be clear speech. Thank you for making this

  • @infinitelithium
    @infinitelithium 4 роки тому +2

    There have been a couple times where I've had 'conversations' with headmates before, and I can't keep up trying to put it into words, but sometimes I can't decode/understand it if i dont!

  • @kalihensley-garrison6282
    @kalihensley-garrison6282 4 роки тому +1

    Oh my goodness! THANK YOU for making this video! Clears somethings up for us! 😅😂😂😂

  • @dorieorinix
    @dorieorinix 3 роки тому +4

    Something we have been working on is someone in the headspace will say a scentence almost like all words piled ontop of one another, and whoever js fronting goes back and deconstructs the scentence slower. We have been working on knowing that we actually do know whats been said and not translating it in regular speed. Thank you for bringing this up

  • @totalcontrol4205
    @totalcontrol4205 4 роки тому +1

    First of all, you're brilliant and I hope you're at uni cause a mind like yours is an awful thing to waste.💓 Secondly, I am in my 50s, and so far, you have described my experiences perfectly. It has really helped me because I grew up having to be in total control, hence the avatar name. Because of that, everything was happening under the surface, no obvious switching, no amnesias, etc. I'm high functioning, but inside it's a mess. So, I never felt that I had DID, I was just imagining it all, or stupid. Listening to your points, I am just blown away every time...you describe my experiences perfectly. I hope this won't offend you, I never got to have children, I would have been the proudest mum if I had a daughter like you.💓👏

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому

      Thank you!! We're at uni and heading directly towards DID/trauma/dissociation research! :)
      I hope this will continue to blow your mind: did-research.org/comorbid/dd/osdd_udd/did_osdd.html
      "Some individuals with OSDD-1 lack both amnesia and highly distinct parts, and other individuals with OSDD-1 have highly distinct parts but rarely or never switch between them. These latter cases are also sometimes described as OSDD-1b."
      Aaaaa thank you so much 💓💓💓

    • @totalcontrol4205
      @totalcontrol4205 4 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem Gosh, me too, I'm at uni and that's my interest area too...hoping to do PhD on these issues. Although, I am finding it harder now, to think clearly and I am getting increasingly forgetful but not because of the DID, just aging faster than I expected. I may not make it in time to do my PhD, but it makes me so happy to know that you will pick up where I couldn't. The gaining of kowledge is more important than any one individual. Goodluck.💓👏👏👏

  • @sad_clown_bong2293
    @sad_clown_bong2293 Рік тому

    The reason I feel as if I'm faking is because when we get thoughts , or when others are talking, it SOMETIMES is in my tone/ close to my voice. And that's why I'm scared we're faking, and I also don't think people will believe us because we're young.

  • @joanarita2518
    @joanarita2518 4 роки тому

    I had some ideas of what this could be just form personal experience, but man, it makes so much more sense now. For me it depends so much on the alter. But basically, i have one that is selective mute, so most of the time, its like you said. Its not even a thought, its more like, a weird, sudden urge, that i normally wouldnt have. There was this time where i just randomly started thinking how i should save money to be able to wear makeup, and I, the host, hate makeup with a burning passion, so i immediately knew it wasnt me. Only when i realized that, and focused on what was happening, did i start picturing images of the only makeup store i actually know. It was a really interesting experience

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому

      Yes that does make sense! I don't think they've done a video on it, but the Alexandrite system has talked to us a lot about how when they first discovered a new alter, they had the same "aha!" moment with the name Harmony. I think they mention it in the livestream they did recently!

  • @sefratatouille
    @sefratatouille 4 роки тому +9

    Thank you thank you thank you !! That's exactly what I have been struggling with and it is super validating to know that its not only me.
    Do you think it is possible to have better external (notes) communication than internal ?

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +7

      Yes of course! We struggle w external communication so it’s harder to talk about, but most certainly can systems be better at that one

  • @Goose_Schmidt
    @Goose_Schmidt 4 роки тому +1

    I can relate

  • @faenene
    @faenene 2 роки тому

    Oh so that’s what it is
    time for another crisis

  • @key966
    @key966 2 роки тому +1

    Hello! I know this video came out a while ago, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask a question now. How can you/ is there a way to tell the difference between intrusive thoughts and thoughts from other alters? Like intrusive thoughts from OCD v. internal communication? Stay safe!

  • @JonnesTT
    @JonnesTT 4 роки тому +4

    I feel like I should have known about this earlier ._.
    I thought I had Schizophrenia when I first started hearing Claw and Aeria and tbh even tho claw wasn't to nice I really wanted Aeria to stay.
    And now claw is one of our... He'd say vicious protectors ^^ but he and the old man (I'm pretty sure the old man was only created to contain claw, but I might be wrong) are good friends :D
    Also, I'm not in contact with a therapist currently, so, can alters form from cognitive dissonance? Like "How can I be so strong but so weak?" I feel like this would be prevelent and I feel like I realized most of my alters weren't me through this rough question.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +2

      I think "form from" might be the wrong wording - specifically with DID/OSDD, alters only form from trauma. But it's totally possible that cognitive dissonance is the reason why you first noticed them! ❤️

  • @justingeorg
    @justingeorg 2 роки тому +2

    I'm a questioning human being trying to find out if I'm part of a system. I've always experienced it like this that random thoughts and feelings and needs just appear like out of nowhere, but it's hard to know if they are just my ADHD brain randomly associating, that's how I explained it so far at least. And it's hard to know the difference bc I only know my own brain and it's always been that way. Like a rush of chaotic thoughts giving their sometimes contradictory opinions and arguments about a topic at hand and sometimes just something "off topic". And quite often I have so sooth myself internally about worries that pop up. Definitely need to talk to a professional. My therapist also doesn't know a lot about DID/OSDD.
    Also I was looking for your vid about how to build up communication from zero. Could you give me a hint where to find it and if there isn't any, would you be willing to make one?

  • @SeattleTrainer
    @SeattleTrainer 4 роки тому +3

    Silver, I am really trying (but struggling) to establish communication with my OSDD-1b system. So THANK YOU for this video. I do get feelings/impressions/sentences that I know are not from me (because they don’t match how I feel or my desires, or are typical of an alter but untypical of me).
    Question: Silver, when an alter uses words inside your head to communicate with you, do you hear an actual audible voice? With unique tone, timbre, unique accent, etc. - just like hearing a voice from an external person? Or do the words arrive in the form of a thought without audio? I ask because I never hear actual voices. This is one of the reasons why one of my parts is struggling to even accept that we have OSDD :-(

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +3

      It’s never an actual, audible voice like it was coming from another person. I know some systems experience it like that, so that’s valid too, but most I’ve talked to experience it like you describe! :)

    • @SeattleTrainer
      @SeattleTrainer 4 роки тому +1

      The Rings System Thank you SO much for confirming that for me. It helps us so much when you describe what we experience - it helps validate that it is real (so easy to doubt a lot of this, LOL). Please keep making videos: your videos are so helpful, especially for an OSDD-1b system!! ❤️💜💕❤️💜💕

  • @MutualMischief
    @MutualMischief 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for this! I'm trying to figure out if I'm more than one or if it's just ADHD and ASD brain weirdness... it's not going well

  • @senekiss
    @senekiss 3 роки тому +2

    THIS HAPPENS TO ME OMGGGGGGGGGGG (Not talking in plural because of denial) :(

  • @samuelgood3203
    @samuelgood3203 4 роки тому +1

    So I'm new to this (just recently got diagnosed) and I was curious if it still counts as a system if there's only your core personality and then your alter.

  • @lostjellyfish
    @lostjellyfish Рік тому

    The unfortunately confusing thing for me is that at 1:20 when y'all were talking about how "you can't predict what your friend may say" is that I... Can? I don't know, if I'm just overthinking. I can usually predict constantly what someone is going to say, or even thoughts in their head (it freaks a lot of people out) so maybe i just am telepathic? Or i have some psychic ability skill growing rapidly haha

  • @natthemadgirl5781
    @natthemadgirl5781 Рік тому

    Hello! I'm a little confused about the general state of what happens in my own head, and I've been suspecting that perhaps the 6 imaginary friends who have followed me through my teenage life are, in fact, not so imaginary. I've been thinking often about how we "communicate", whether I imagine words and put them in their mouths, or if when they start spewing nonsense it's actually them, and not me. A lot of them are assholes (they are "based" on historical figures... Go figure) and sometimes they come up with stuff (in my head, never verbally, thank god!!) that I've always put down to being "my" intrusive thoughts, so the question I'm trying to make is, is there a difference between intrusive thoughts and internal communication? I also know that I don't know much about intrusive thoughts, so maybe I should look into that, but I'd still appreciate hearing people's thoughts. Thank you all

  • @hoxordm8491
    @hoxordm8491 4 роки тому +1

    If internal communication is a thought that comes from an alter. How do you differentiate between intrusive thoughts and internal comuncation?

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +5

      Hmm, this is really hard to describe because I've always found it obvious.
      Intrusive thoughts 'sound' like normal thoughts, and come from the same distance. Internal communication feels different and feels like it's coming from further away. Also, you can't really have an in-depth conversation with intrusive thoughts. Intrusive thoughts tend to not have a fully fleshed out thought pattern behind them, and when you ask them "why" they usually just respond "because you should" or "because you're horrible, ect." With alters, you can have full conversations about what they're feeling and why, and then when the alter fronts next, the conversation has an impact on them.
      I hope that helps! :)

    • @hoxordm8491
      @hoxordm8491 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheRingsSystem that you so much, it really helped 😊😊

  • @rubbelkatz3672
    @rubbelkatz3672 11 місяців тому

    As someone being part of a system...how do you tell apart ordinary intrusive thoughts from internal communication? Is there even a difference?

  • @AhsetofAtum
    @AhsetofAtum 4 роки тому

    👍😉👍

  • @kc3669
    @kc3669 3 роки тому

    Shit. I just was trying to have my own dialogue in a whisper and I got someone shouting and kept getting distracted as I was talking in my head. 😆😂 I mean I know we are a system though I question it constantly (cause of memory and time loss) and then I get confirmed again.

  • @jayden2000
    @jayden2000 4 роки тому

    I'm curious if my alters speak my native language, my second language or a whole other language.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +1

      Could be any of them! :)

    • @jayden2000
      @jayden2000 4 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem I didnt learn English, I just woke up one day, looked out the window, and realisation hit that I was fluent in English?? Like how??

    • @kyrabytes563
      @kyrabytes563 4 роки тому

      Since the first time I talked to my alters was when I was probably 10 and I learned English when I was 9-10 I always talked in English and Spanish to them, as I was fluent in both. Anyways, I actually always talked to them or myself in English even thought I'm Latina, my alters talk in English but know perfect Spanish, prefer english anyways since we were raised like that

  • @pearblossom1390
    @pearblossom1390 4 роки тому +1

    Hi 🧝‍♀️

  • @slitherpickle8929
    @slitherpickle8929 4 роки тому

    Hi! I have a dumb question qwq
    Another system likes one of our alters. Tho me the host has a boyfriend, and would it be cheating if the alter dated someone in the other system? Sorry, I know this question is really dumb.

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  4 роки тому +2

      It really depends on your system. If you guys can work stuff out inter-system, then it's not cheating! Honestly, most systems I know have been able to, but some systems have internal rules where they only collectively date one person.
      I'd talk it over w your system (as a whole), the other system, and your current boyfriend :)

    • @slitherpickle8929
      @slitherpickle8929 4 роки тому

      The Rings System alright. Thank you for the advice I greatly appreciate it!

  • @hannavignolo6454
    @hannavignolo6454 4 роки тому +8

    i see a pride flag!

  • @danyelPitmon
    @danyelPitmon 4 роки тому

    I have had a situation where I have multiple alters talk with me but one at first her name is Lisa she actually started talking with each of the other alters and convincing them that they were a part of a system and then started communicating with all of them and they all started communicating with one another that took a little while to happen and now I have two more new alters they have not totally introduce him selves to the others I’ve only gotten their names but when I first got my fourth grader who is 10 years old she actually got my attention by humming Music to me and she just kept getting louder and louder and louder to the point where it started causing my head to hurt and it did not feel good I didn’t acknowledged her and said please shut up I can’t think my head hurting and she didn’t said hi how are you doing I am Jade or Jaden or jaded jaded something like that and she is a she told me about her self but she’s in fourth grade 10 years old and she’s a runaway she lives on the streets she doesn’t trust adults at all and I just corrected me and said her name is Jade for jaded and I have been working with her enough and one thing she loves is gummy bears and I have some because I like them too but there are times when I haven’t felt like eating them but then when I go in the kitchen I had them sitting on the kitchen table and all of a sudden I just get the urge to eat them and she says I want my gummy bears I was trying to eat check bags and she practically made me throw up and I didn’t feel like throwing up but I finally stopped eating the bag and then she said go to the kitchen table and grab the gummy bears so I did I satisfied her and she had a big smile on her face because she was enjoying the gummy bears so and Lisa she’s the one that basically always comes to me as co-conscious like the others but she comes more often to talk with me and I think she’s the one that basically controls when and which one call conscious with me and not one of them have ever taken over the body yet but they have guided me to things and I have been feeling very horrible about all of it and I just can’t stand having emotional feelings that they have like fear anxiety stress you know when I don’t feel like that from is the three-year-old that Lesa is taking care of my fairy she’s always very happy and cheery and she tries to make me feel better Jade she does not trust me she doesn’t trust my other alters including Lisa and then I have two new altars one is the character or at least the name of the character seven of nine from Star Trek Voyager and then my other new one is 11 name wise from stranger things and those two I don’t know what they look like yet I don’t even know their ages yet because all they shared with me it’s just their name but I don’t feel any emotions yet from them except that they do not wish to come to the front coat conscious entirely yet because they don’t know about what to do in the system yet they don’t know how they can represent themselves or present themselves because they have not shared their likeness with me yet or any of the other alters know sorry about the long rant and explaining about myself and I just am very confused right now because I’ve only been recently diagnosed after pushing my therapist to see if I have the ID dissociative identity disorder and she did say to my therapist as she does think I have it and I bet him to her to give me a letter officially diagnosing so I can give to people that really need to know and all of them my behavioral consultant my therapist my psychiatrist and my doctor have pretty much agreed that I need to be along with my wife in an assisted living facility where she can get really good care and that I can be monitored and watched because of my self harm and suicidal ideation‘s which have frequently been getting worse and I don’t know who they are coming from

  • @thenodesystem.2452
    @thenodesystem.2452 4 роки тому

    Can we use some of this info in our workshop?-Mary Kate.

  • @abbyvonzorro2782
    @abbyvonzorro2782 3 роки тому

    Hey uhm, I'm stiww weally doubting a wot of things, so it is nowmaw to have my possibwe awtews be abwe to tawk to me wike it's a thought? it's weiwd, becuz it's wike I can heaw it, but also nawt at the same time. Wike it's a more pwonounced thought. Awso, is it nowmaw to onwy be abwe to tawk with awtews who awe thewe with u, but awso be abwe to ask them to go tawk to anothew awtew in what I think is my innew mind dat I can't access atm, and then nawt hewe them tawk, and then the won u asked to tawk to ur othew awtew come bac and be abwe to teww u what ur othew awtew said? I'm just really scawwed, since I've owny known about our possibwe system for a few days, and I'm wowwied I'm going insane owr invawid becuz I can't fuwwy communicate, switch, owr entew ouwr innew mind yet >n

    • @abbyvonzorro2782
      @abbyvonzorro2782 3 роки тому

      Awso sowwi if dis is confusing, it's weally hawd to expwain, and awso hawd to type cowwectwy :c

    • @TheRingsSystem
      @TheRingsSystem  3 роки тому

      Yes, those are forms of internal communication :)

    • @abbyvonzorro2782
      @abbyvonzorro2782 3 роки тому

      @@TheRingsSystem Thankyu. Awso, I hope u guys awe safe!

  • @crownedcreeps
    @crownedcreeps 4 роки тому +10

    watching this video Alex communicated to me a picture of him sticking his tong out at me and the sound of him sarcastically yelling "LIKE THIS?????"
    Very mature we are -Rudolph