I'm Officially a LOTR Fan | The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Movie Reaction PART 2/2
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- We're watching "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" the Extended Edition! This is part two of a two part reaction. I hope you guys enjoy this reaction to The Two Towers.
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The Boromir flashback is a very important scene, and it's absolutely criminal that it did not make the theatrical cut. It really shows you how much pressure Boromir had on him, and how much Faramir wanted to prove himself. Without that context, the motivations of both characters suffer.
Well,all Boromirs cut scenes were cut for cynical reasons,in the two towers,a scene with Boromir became a good marketing ploy;Buy the extended and see him again.
@@christofferjenzen78 Rubbish! How many people would have sat through these movies in a theatre if everything that was shot was included?
@@martinbynion1589 Rubbish...you mean they just arbitrarily cut scenes willy nilly? Alot of Boromir in Fellowship ends up in the extended cause "Its less important we get to know him cause he is gonna die soon" when connecting emotionally to him would be important precisely cause he was gonna die soon. His scene in the two towers leave little room as to why it was cut,its a scene many wanted and the narrative survives without it. In interviews Jackson,Viggo and Elijah were plugging the scene,"you're only gonna get the scene if you buy the extended." These movies are expensive products,they need to make their money back and they will have reasons behind it all. So yes,from a cynical standpoint it makes sense to trim Boromirs parts.
I agree. It's the most vital scene being cut. People always refer to Saruman but the Boromir flashback has so much depth!
Agreed.
You: “oh I love those lines”
Me: “King Theoden is now in the halls of his forefathers 😭😭😭”
RIP 👑
When Wormtongue shed a tear during Saruman's speech to the Uruk-hai; it was him realizing he has just signed the death warrant of his people. He clearly thought that Rohan was going to be subjugated, at this moment he realized it was going to be a genocide.
I mean, that's _one_ interpretation. Another, more cynical interpretation is that Gríma was simply overwhelmed by awe at the sight. Or that he had always known what his betrayal would effect, but felt a sudden affinity for his people and regret for his actions.
The fact that it's not clear which interpretation is "correct" is the very thing that makes that scene so fantastic. No reason to insist it's one way or the other when there's no canonical evidence (not even from Jackson) to substantiate such claims.
I thought it was out of pure joy, cuz he's evil.
@@JGComments True, he was speaking with glee, about how vulnerable women and children would be, on their journey. But perhaps it was indeed a case of "wait a second, I thought you'd instate me as the ruler of Rohan." That army meant "no no no, you misunderstood me, I meant to exterminate every last person, there will be no person left alive for you to rule."
i do wonder if he did feel some remorse, this could have been the buildup to him stabbing saruman in the back
I’ve read ‘em all, from Gilgamesh to Hercules to Arthur to Superman; and the hero I want to be when I grow up is Sam the Hobbit.
Poor Arwen has a great deal of sorrow ahead of her no matter what. If she leaves, she'll be kicking herself over what could have been with Aragorn for all eternity. If she stays, she can't join her father, or her two brothers (who didn't make it into the films), her maternal grandparents Galadriel and Celeborn, or her mother, who left for the Undying Lands long ago because she had suffered severe trauma and could find no peace in Middle-Earth anymore. (The Undying Lands are a place of peace and healing, kind of like a heaven you can go to without having to die first.)
Aragorn: "87"
Éowyn: "Please eat!"
Aragorn: "Not if I want to be 88!"
Love your reactions to this incredible Saga. Cheers!
I love how its seems like Arwen kisses Aragon awake after he fell off the cliff, but its really just his horse giving him face rubs. And I think it's the same horse he let free in Rohan.
It is the same horse, Brego!
I've had a dream wherein a pretty girl unexpectedly gives me a kiss on the lips. I woke up to see my cat laying beside me and staring at my face.
How would you like to have a 1200-pound horse lie down next to you? Viggo Mortensen spent a lengthy period of time bonding with "Brego" (actually named Uraeus), even sleeping in the stable with him. The early stages of the training, with a dummy instead of a man, were not pretty! It all finally worked out, as we see. In the end, after the filming, Viggo bought Uraeus from the production company.
Arwen, as one of the High Elves of the West, had the power to "watch over Aragorn in thought from afar". Couple that with being Galadriel's granddaughter, as well as a touch of angelic blood in her through her father, made her far more powerful than many other Elves.
@@johnwalters1341 didnt Viggo buy the actress who play Aowen's horse she rode in the movie as well?
"These movies is so long but is to short". You don't even know how many people watching this trilogy repeat this sentence. Practically everyone😀
And you guessed right that the last part will make you cry even more. Have plenty of tissues ready because you will be crying almost the entire time in the last hour of the movie, but they will be tears of joy and sadness at the same time.
That part about Aragorn’s age hints at a LOT of history the movies can’t go into. Aragorn is descended from the royal family of the great ancient kingdom of Numenor, founded 6500 years before by Elrond’s twin brother Elros. The twins were mixed human/elf race, and the gods gave them a choice of which fate to belong to.
Elrond chose to be an immortal elf, but Elros chose to be a man - with the compensation that he’d be founding king of Numenor, and live to be over 500. His descendants, including Aragorn, were therefore long-lived but decreasingly so over time. Aragorn could expect to live to be 200 or so. Numenor was the Middle Earth Atlantis, and had been destroyed 3,000 years prior to current events, but descendants survived and founded Gondor in the South. In the North they founded another Kingdom, Arnor. It had eventually been destroyed, but its descendants survived, and are called the Dunedain (Eowyn uses that term). Those not in the know, like most men and hobbits, call them the Rangers - the term the Bree innkeeper used for Strider, “He’s one of them Rangers …”
And those Dunedain toiled in anonymity for decades, keeping Bree-land and the Shire safe from encroaching servants of Sauron. The dismissiveness of the hobbits and Barliman the innkeeper over the poorly-dressed, rough-seeming Strider belies his noble nature and humble demeanor, and his desire to serve others with selflessness, which is a deeply important trait to have in a leader.
Someone worked out the math, and came up with Arwen and Aragorn being first cousins, sixty-four times removed..
At the end of the Akallabeth, the tale of Numenor, Tolkien revealed the land's ancient name in Quenya: Atalante. This makes the story the longest and most elaborate pun ever written.
@@DonovanStone-pe7yi The stuff in the Appendices was all meant to be part of the story, but Tolkien couldn't find a way to fit it in. So no, it's not just a timeline. It's all integral.
If I remember correctly there is even a small percentage of Maiar in his bloodline.
So, basically, both Aragorn and Arwen are descendants of a line of half-men half-elf line of two brothers. The brothers got to choose if walking the path of elven inmortality or the path of human mortality. One of them chose to live as an Elf, that's Arwen's family and the other chose to live as a man and that's Aragorn's family. But even the men that came from this line have unnaturally long lifespans. This is also the readon why Arwen can choose to basically become mortal at will.
At 21:45, not every reactor realizes that the leader of this Elven army is Haldir, the leader of the Elf-band that stopped the Company when they entered Lothlorien in FOTR. Why he is bringing word from Elrond instead of Galadriel isn't clear. Incidentally, this army of Elves is not in the book--they had their own battle to fight on the borders of Lothlorien.
I think it was due to the fact that when they started filming they had Arwen lead the elves to Helm's Deep and had her fighting there. During filming, they changed their minds about that, deciding it didn't work the way they wanted and had to replace her with someone else, and aside from the leaders (Eldond, Galadriel, and Celeborn), Haldir is really the only elf the viewer has already seen before and gotten a name for.
Once again, I’ve got to say “you get it! You really get it.“ I really appreciate your sensitivity, insight and enthusiasm. Thanks, and can’t wait for your next review!
At 31:12 you say, "Ooh, I love those lines!" In the book, the lines occur elsewhere in the story, spoken by Eomer: "Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising/I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing/To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking./Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!" It's in the old Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse, like Tolkien's beloved Beowulf.
"Forty-two? Oh, that's not bad for a pointy-eared elvish princeling. Hmph! I myself am sitting pretty on forty-THREE."
"Forty-three."
"He was already dead!"
"He was twitching."
"He was TWITCHING because he's got my axe EMBEDDED IN HIS NERVOUS SYSTEM!"
Fun Fact: They couldn't recruit enough men in the six foot height area to play Uruk-hai, so men from five foot high were cast as well. They were affectionately nicknamed the Uruk-Low.
I Survived Helm's Deep Fact: The battle at Helm's Deep was edited down from twenty hours of footage, shot over a four month period with the rain machine battering down on the cast.
Not CGI Fact: On the wall of Helm's Deep during the battle, a one-eyed warrior turns to the camera, revealing his scarred empty socket. The performer who played him showed up as an extra, wearing an eye patch. Director Sir Peter Jackson politely asked to see what was under the patch, and then inquired if the gentleman would be interested in appearing in the movie sans eye patch. The gentleman was reluctant at first, and quite self-conscious, but afterward, said the experience had made him more comfortable with his condition.
The eye patch fellow actually died a couple years ago. RIP
Fun fact: Aragorn is actually 87 3/4. The Battle of Helm’s Deep begins on his 88th birthday.
AragoRn 🙂 Why do people keep typing "Aragon"?
@@tbessie because they learned about Aragon in school. It is a historic kingdom of Spain. If you had a character whose name was Chicargo, pronounced identically in your country to how Chicago is pronounced in your country, might you not occasionally make a repetitive mistake of calling them Chicago instead of Chicargo?
Related fun fact: remember how back in the nineties, Burma changed its national spelling to Myanmar, and everyone hustled to learn the new pronunciation, whether My-an-mar or Mee-an-mar? Yeah, it turns out to be neither of those. I asked a Burmese customer how he pronounced “Myanmar.” His answer? “BA-MA.” Somewhat perplexed, I then asked him how he pronounced “Burma.” His response? “BA-MA.”
“So they’re the same?” I asked.
“Yes,” he replied. “Just the spelling is different.”
So don’t be too harsh on the admirers of “King Aragon.” They may not be able to hear the difference in pronunciation, and they certainly have an excuse for mistaking the spelling.
@@tbessie sorry, I didn’t realize _I_ had misspelled it. 🙈 I claim spellcheck.
I always UGLY CRY at Sam’s little speech at the end 😭😭💖💖💖 even after hooting and hollering with joy at Gandalf arriving at Helm’s Deep and Treebeard and the Ents wrecking shop
the utter shock on Pippin's face at the moment when Merry told him "there wont be a Shire" is one of the best moments of acting in the movie - for Pippin, as well as for Merry (unless Bilbo and Frodo) the Shire was all of their world they knew, an absolute home :)
You're right about the lines all meaning something, particularly Faramir's warning to Gollum.
In Middle Earth, curses and oaths have real, binding power. Gollum swore on the Ring (the Precious) to serve Frodo. Faramir laid a simple, but very real curse upon him, that death should find him quickly if he leads Frodo and Sam to harm.
Both Smeagol's oath and Faramir's curse have power to punish Smeagol if he breaks his word.
The scene with the stew is especially touching. More so when you realize that aragon has lived in the wilderness and has probably eaten things that would make a maggot puke.
I think it emphasizes that Eowyn, as basically a princess, isn't so skilled at cooking, while Aragorn, someone who has lived by his own wits for decades in the wilderness, can definitely stomach a lot of stuff, but after 87 years he's just not got the patience to put up with substandard stew!
AragoRn 🙂
Its a pleasure to watch these with you, you dont miss anything, you get it 👍❤🏴
Fun fact the voice of Tree Beard is the actor that plays Gimly
Gimli*
Just as fun fact - John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) was the tallest of the main actors in LOTR, but appears as a dwarf in the films!
At 4:00, the creatures the Orcs are riding are Wargs. PJ&Co. have turned them into sort of a cross between a hyena and a grizzly bear, but in Tolkien's books The Hobbit and LOTR the Wargs are large intelligent werewolves. This entire scene isn't in the book, but there is an episode in FOTR, just after the Company have failed to cross the Pass of Caradhras (called the Redhorn Gate in the book), when they are attacked at night by a pack of Wargs; Gandalf finally drives them off by setting a hilltop on fire. In the morning, when the fire has died down, the bodies of the Wargs have disappeared, and all of Legolas's arrows are lying undisturbed on the ground. In the book, it is this Warg attack that convinces the Company to go through the Mines of MOria.
Werewolves? Not quite. Intelligent creatures of evil in the form of large, sinister wolves? More likely. Carcharoth may have possibly been a fallen maia, but his descendants in the 3rd Age were never said to be shape-shifters. Beorn would have been able to tell.
@@rikk319 I was gonna say that too - they aren't werewolves (they don't turn back into people), they are just huge, relatively intelligent evil wolves.
At 8:30, Arwen's words, "May the grace of the Valar protect you," are the only reference in the movies to the Valar, the Guardians of the World. LOTR doesn't go very far into the "gods" of Middle-earth, but if you read The Silmarillion, Tolkien's "Bible" of Middle-earth, you'll find much of the story of the First Age of the world revolves around the dealings of the Valar with the Elves and Men. In general, when the Valar have tried to influence the actions of the inhabitants of Middle-earth, the results have not been good.
In the Third movie, there is a point where Gandalf says “May they be blessed.” In the book, the line continued “May they be blessed, as long as the Thrones of the Valar shall endure.”
Yeah... The War of Wrath, one of the few times they did get involved, did kind of nuke an entire continent and sink it into the sea. Probably best they try to not have something like that happen again.
They still influence, but not directly.
John Noble, who plays Denethor, says that he thinks the reason Denethor seems to hate Faramir is that he blames the boy for his mother's death in childbirth. (Sadly, this is not uncommon.)
Yes, the "hero" of this tale is not one person, but the team of Frodo and Sam. Frodo could not have done this without Sam, but Sam would never have even considered going on this quest if not for Frodo. Frodo is doing this for the Shire, but Sam is doing it for Frodo. They're one unit together; the fate of the world is in both their hands.
It's also worth mentioning, Denethor had been using the Palantir Stone of Minas Tirith. And just like with Saruman, Sauron used it to influence Denethor, throw him into despair. He wasn't just an evil and crazy man.
The actor who played Sam is Sean Astin and his mother was Patty Duke, and Academy Award winning actress. His father was John Astin who played Gomez in the original 1960's Addams Family. Sean also was the younger brother in the 1980's The Goonies. He was 14 when he played that part
It’s funny, you are one of few female reactors who see the use for Eowyn to stay with the people in the caves. Lot of women want her to fight and be a badass, but they don’t see the point of view of men, who want her to be here for their people in the case if all of them dies. The people will need a strong leader who will be here for them and able to defend them. And she is a strong woman.
It’s sad there are so much misunderstandings of woman’s utility in different part of History just because of some gender fights.
Thanks for your reaction
Boromir and faramir are representatives of two types of british army officers of ww1 - boromir is the born warrior, who represents the regular career army officers of 1914 - men who were not really that bright but had a strong sense of duty and were a bit idealistic about their service. Most of these officers were wiped out betwwen 1914-1916. Faramir represents the type of men who replaced them; young men who were studying at universities or doing other non-military things when war broke out. Faramir’s generation of british officers were smarter and far less idealistic about what they were doing. They were the military innovators of 1916-1918 and they were far more likely to ask awkward questions of those above them.
Its like comparing the bombastic works of the early war poet, rupert brooks to the more cynical and realistic work of those who came after him, like siegfried sassoon (british btw) and wilfred owen.
The movies do a terrible job with denethor. In the books, denethor has a palantir - one of the seeing stones - and the eyes of the white tower are not blind. Denethor contests sauron wth it nightly, but sauron fills denethor’s seeing stone with lies and denethor is in the process of succumbing to utter despair, which is what drives his behaviour. The movies dont show that brave side of denethor.
14:25 The reason the penalty for entering the forbidden pool is death is that the cave behind the waterfall (where Faramir and his men are keeping Frodo and Sam) is a secret Gondorian base in enemy territory to keep an eye on nearby Minas Morgul, the castle of Sauron's where the Witch King is based.
Minas Morgul, the former sister city of Minas Tirith, hundreds of years back when Minas Morgul was called Minas Ithil (Tower of the Moon), and Minas Tirith was called Minas Anor (Tower of the Sun).
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I think Faramir is also messing with Frodo, trying to get him to admit that he knows Gollum
@@Phantasia_Workshop It would also be "forbidden" because, regardless of how well-guarded, it's a weak spot in the defences.
You're one of my absolute favorite reactors. I was hooked when, during your reaction to the first Alien movie, you said "This is a level of nope I've never encountered before ".😅
Thank you 🥰
The all important backstory to Boromir/Faramir/Denathor that you saw here, Kahla, is NOT in the theatrical release...
THAT's an example of why so many fans insist upon the extended versions that you have been watching! 😉
Fun Fact: Lore wise....the path above Minus Morgal actually WAS the only other way into Mordor. Any other path that may have existed was not known to ANYONE, like not even Sauron knew of any other route.
I guess they could've tried to travel around the mountains that protect Mordor.......but it would teken them years to do that.
It's nice to see someone new reacting to TLOTR and actually gets and understand it. Great Reaction 👍.
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Bring tissues for ROTK
Aragorn it´s a Dunedáin, a kind of "royal" race among the men, blessed with long life (they have part of elves in their blood). That´s why he has 87 years old here, and looks young.
At 8:05, the movie doesn't make it clear, but the book explicitly says that Saruman fell into evil when he looked in the Palantir and was caught by Sauron: Gandalf says, "Alas for Saruman! It was his downfall, as I now perceive. Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves...Easy it is now to guess how quickly the roving eye of Saruman was trapped and held, and how ever since he has been persuaded from afar, and daunted when persuasion would not serve. The biter bit, the hawk under the eagle's foot, the spider in a steel web!"
Same thing happened to Denethor, Sadly, one of the few things I dislike about the movies, this was not shown in the movies, creating a true (but inaccurate) Baddie to heighten the drama. Still, I'd much rather have 99% of a legendary adventure than 100% of a literal and tedious borefest. 🙂
8:33 the Valar are the gods of Middle Earth. The Elves (and Aragorn) were very aware of them. They live in Valinor, the western land across the sea that the Elves are going to
The info Wormtongue gives to Saruman is really just exposition for the audience. Saruman is a wizard. He's been around for a good long time, and he already knows all about Helm's Deep, plus he's got his bird spies, and other creatures working for him. There's nothing Wormtongue can tell him that he doesn't already know.
The "Forbidden Pool" thing is not just some arbitrarily "sacred" pool such that anyone who swims in it is executed. There's a practical reason for it. The pool is fed by the waterfall that hides the entrance to a small cave complex that Faramir and his men use as a hidden base. They are what we'd call in modern times "guerilla fighters". Hidden in the no-man's-land between Gondor and Mordor, the monitor enemy movements, and hinder them when possible, like they did with the Haradrim (the guys with the oliphaunts). Anyone who enters the pool might discover their secret base of operations, and then their cover is blown. So they can't risk any enemy or stranger finding out about the caves.
Helm's Deep is a very strong fortress, and like any fortress or castle, it's much easier to defend than to attack. A small force inside can defend itself against a much larger force on the outside - as long as their supplies hold out (especially food).
Ents have a totally different way of thinking and looking at life than humans, or even elves. They live life very, very slowly - like trees. They are content to stand in one place for days or weeks or longer, just drinking in the rain and sunshine - like trees. They aren't used to the idea of going to war, being "active" and "dynamic". Getting all riled up is not something they generally do. It's very unnatural to them.
@6:43 Under heavy makeup and allergy-inducing prosthetics, John Rhys-Davies conveyed Gimli’s emotional state perfectly. His delivery of “He fell.” brings me to tears every time.
SAME! Even though I know he's alive. Reminds me of Kirk's eulogy for Spock in The Wrath of Khan.
31:05 RIGHT? Most people don't give that delivery and line enough credit, the music synched with it so well
King Théoden said Gondor didn't come. The didn't come because they coudn't. They were also under attack by three large fleets who came sailing from Umbar and Harad. When Rohan was attacked by the Dunland people, some of the fleet joined them.
I've seen this movie 13,587x and parts still get me every single time. My absolute favorite movie with my favorite ending. RotK has some of my all time favorite movie moments as well so looking forward to another top tier reaction from you on that one. ✌️
Thirteen thousand, eight hundred fifty-seven. That’s a nice total for a pointy-haired Elven princeling.
Interesting fact, it WAS faramir that was supposed to join the fellowship in the books. HE was the one that had dreams from thw Gods of joining the fellowship and it succeeding. But his father changed that and sent Boromir. Faramir was the one strong enough, as you see later on, to resist the ring.
Sam's relationship with Frodo is based very much, once again, on Tolkien's experiences in WWI. It's based on the idea from that time of an officer-batman relationship. A batman was a soldier who was assigned to a commissioned officer, and the two often formed a strong bond based on their experiences together, with the batman being extremely devoted to his commander. It's kind of a difficult concept for a lot of people in this day and age to really grasp, both because the military has changed so much, and because the class system isn't what it once was. In this case, Sam is from a lower (servant's) class to Frodo. The Shire's class system is a very idealized vision of it that Tolkien had, with everyone knowing their position in society and appreciating the contributions of the other positions. As a result, Sam is utterly devoted to Frodo, and Frodo has complete appreciation for all Sam does for him. The closest thing a person today might be able to compare it to and really understand it is the relationship between Alfred and Bruce Wayne in (amusingly enough) Batman.
When Elrond says "there is nothing for you here only death" to Arwen we can see this particular tapestry on the background - with Two Trees (previous source of light before the creation of the Sun and the Moon) of Valinor (where Elrond wants to be with all of his family - wife Celebrian, twin sons Elladan and Elrohir and Arwen), and the ship of Earendil sails between these trees (on the tapestry). Earendil was Elrond's father (and ancestor of Aragorn) who after many adventures made it to Valinor (Immortal Lands made for Valars and for elves) and was back with mighty Valinorean hosts of Valars, Maiars and elves (and with himself on a flying ship flanked by an army of eagles) for he begged the Valars (gods/archangels) for help, for mercy (the elves were not in favour of the Valars at this time) for both elves and men in the last stand against Morgoth (Sauron's and balrogs boss), at the end of 1th age of the Sun. LOTR action takes place at the end of 3d age of the Sun. For this deed Earendil the Mariner was both punished by not being able to return to Middle-Earth ever again and awarded for he becomes the star (on his flying ship) of Hope on the sky bearing one of the 3 holy Silmarils (on his brow) and can be seen as the morning star and the evening star. Arwen was nicknamed Evenstar. So when Elrond tells about hopeless choice ("only death") he has this symbol of the greatest sign of hope (for elves and men) Earendil star (his father) at the background :) this movie is unique :)
One of the best reactions I have seen to this trilogy. So much kudos to you for letting us share your journey. Be prepared for #3. It's an emotional rollercoaster.
Peter Jackson, did Faramir very dirty in the Two Towers. Faramir only helped Frodo and believed in the prophecy of a halfling being directly involved in saving Middle Earth.
When people ask me *_what's the biggest difference between the theatricals and the extendeds?_* to me it all boils down to that extra Boromir backstory, it's just heartbreaking and explains so much.
I'm now squarely in the camp of having the Extended Edition be mandatory to all new viewers of LOTR. The theatrical cut really did Boromir dirty.
literally thinking "when is she gonna drop pt2?" and here we are! Great reactions so far!!
Fun fact concerning ages of characters:
Everyone's already explained Aragorn's age. Arwen is, I think, around 3000 years old here. You know Bilbo is celebrating his 111th birthday in the beginning of the trilogy, but that is also Frodo's birthday. His 33rd. When Gandalf returns and sends Frodo and Sam on the quest, Frodo is now 50, putting Bilbo at 128 when they meet again at the House of Elrond. Gandalf and Saruman are old enough that time doesn't even really enter into it. They are essentially angels that pre-date the awakening of the Children of Illuvatar ("God" in Middle-Earth), who are the Elves and Men. So when Gandalf is "sent back," it is Illuvatar who is doing the sending.
Faramir is the one significant criticism I have of the films. Book Faramir’s opinion of the Ring: “I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway. Not were Minas Tirith falling in ruin and I alone could save her”
Watched many reactions channels but I truly enjoy your commentary and pure emotion, thoughts you share with us! Thank you 🙏
Fun Fact: Aragorn is a descendant of Beren and Luthien, the latter being an Elf. Through her, he's also a descendant of Melian, her mother, a Maia, so for all intents and purposes, an angel.
Gandalf, Saruman, and Sauron are also Maiar. They were created by the god of Tolkien's universe, Eru Ilúvatar, before the creation of the world, as offspring of his mind. Gandalf and Sauron, together with three other Maiar, were sent to Middle Earth in the form of old men to help guide the Children of Ilúvatar (Elfs and Men) in their fight against Sauron. That was roughly 2,000 years before the Fellowship of the Ring.
To answer your question about saruman's change. Their is a chapter in the unfinished tales called the quest of erebor.
where we're told of Saruman's dislike and jealousy of gandalf ( bearing a ring of power, being initially head of their counsel and smoking pipe weed).
One thing the movie never tells you is that part of why Elrond seems to be against his daughter and Aragorn's relationship is because his own parents were an elf and a human and he saw firsthand the pain that could cause.
The children of a human or an elf can make the choice of whether to be mortal or immortal and that's why Arwen can choose a mortal life with Aragorn, and Aragorn himself is actually directly descended from Elrond's brother Elros, who chose a mortal life unlike his brother and grew old and died thousands of years before.
So Elrond does love Aragorn almost like his own kid because he not only was raised in Rivendell, but he's his brother's great-grandson times 10. Also, Galadriel is actually Elrond's mother in law and Arwen's grandmother. Imagine that family dinner.
To answer your question, yes the old dude on the wall lost his grip on his bow and fired that first shot by accident.
A proper longbow like that actually requires a lot of arm and back strength to be able to hold back like that.
(In truth you would never pull back and hold like that for such a long time, it would be exhausting, but ya know, drama and such.)
Yea, for a full longbow, I believe it was like 180-200 pounds needed to draw it all the way back. You couldn't fire more than a dozen or so times with it before your back and arms would be hurting really bad. The arrows with a bodkin point pierced armor though so that made them extremely deadly for the few rounds they could fire.
"Its hurting my heart...". oh just you wait. The feels are coming. ALL the feels. The second half of ROTK will bring you to tears. But its worth it. We will not say " do not weep, for not all time tears are an evil."
The pool Gollum went into is forbidden because it is the hideout of Gondor's soldiers. if anything gave the location away they'd lose that outpost. In the books faramir is much kinder to Frodo and sam. They are blindfolded only so they cannot ever find the hideout or give it away. Faramir never tries to take the ring, and lets Frodo go freely after resupplying them with food and water. Jackson added a bit of drama...
Grima couldn't tell Saruman much he didn't already know. Saruman had set himself up in Isengard 2,000 years before this story began. The Horse Lords had only been given what was later called Rohan 500 years earlier after the area had been depopulated by war and disease. This was similar to how The North Kingdom of Arnor gave the farmlands of The Shire to The Hobbits 400 years before it's fall. At the time, the end of the 3rd Age, the Hobbits had been living there for 1500 years.
Yup. Even if you go purely by movie canon, it makes no sense that Gríma would show up and give Saruman information about the culvert _even as Saruman is making the bomb_ and his army is marching out. It only works if you assume Gríma's voiceover is information conveyed to Saruman long ago.
I think it's one of the plot arcs that suffers the most for the movies' condensed timeline and modern sentiments.
The men marching into Mordor were Easterlings from Rhun, in the far North East. The men with the Elephants or “Olephants” were men from Harad, the far South East. Both ancient enemies of the Free people.
Faramir trying to take the Ring to Gondor is one of the major changes from the book I least agree with. It makes him a carbon copy of his brother, while the whole point of Faramir in the book was that he was the better man and resisted the Ring, heightening the irony of his father preferring his much more aggressive brother.
The scene where Elrond convinces Arwen to go across the sea to Valinor, at 9:27, has a lot of lore in the background tapestry. It depicts the Trees of Valinor, the three Silmarils and Earandil's ship. Not a single line mentions the tapestry, yet the set designers put it there for those who would know it's meaning.
I love that Gollum are hushing himself.
Sam is even better in the books if you ever get the chance to read them. The books are quite a different experience from the films. You really get the feel of the world they are in, and when I first started reading it, it made me wanna go walk the countryside barefoot, and go see vast natural landscapes. Highly recommend the books, as in something everyone on Earth should have on their lifelong bucket list.
I can't make it through the last 45 minutes or so of Return of the King without crying like a baby. After all these years, I just can't stop it.
I love it when Treebeard yells, “release the river!” So epic. 😊
8:10 - "Obviously, Saruman wasn't always like this. So what changed?"
Remember the Palantir? The spherical "seeing stones" that Gandalf warned were too dangerous to use because they weren't all accounted for? Well, Saruman - and Denethor, too - used 'em. Wrestling with the Dark Lord's will via the Palantir is a losing proposition, as evidenced by Saruman's ill-founded belief that he could join forces with Sauron on anything like an even footing...and Denethor's having been driven mad. The character of Denethor, in particular, got short-shrifted in the films - made to look like a terrible person from the outset with no nobility in him at all (which is a little funny as he is portrayed by actor John Noble).
Sams speech has always been a source of comfort for me in my life. Never fails to bring a tear to my eye 🥲 Excited to see the next part of your journey through middle earth.
Did you know that the actor that played King Theoden passed away last week?! I was DEVASTATED - as if the man was related to me! It's THIS part that introduced me to him in the first place!! His name was Bernard Hill.
Great reaction you understand everything I look forward to see you at the end of the third one Thanks from Canada
Always gets me in my feels when people talk about there's always Hope and such. When Aragon's Elfin name means Hope. It's like with Aragon there Hope is always there.😊
Elven?
Estel. It was the name Aragorn was called after his mother left him in Rivendell to be raised by Elrond. His father had died fighting orcs, and her heart was broken; she returned to the Dunedain people and died within the year I believe. Elrond continued calling him Estel until his 18th birthday, when he revealed to the young man his heritage and destiny. Book Elrond loved Aragorn like a son, but was also stern enough to insist Aragorn doggedly pursue his noble destiny, if he was going to be worthy of Arwen's hand in marriage.
"These words are getting to me," you said. Now imagine three amazing books, packed with words that have been getting to me for decades, and do, again and again. You're getting a mere snippet of them, in these films. Please try and read the books. You will be so filled with joy! Or! If you like, listen to the audiobooks. A new set has come out, fairly recently. Read by the wonderful Andy Serkis, who plays Sméagol/Gollem in the films, and is superb at the characters voices! ♥
Of course Aragorn isn't going to die. He's the title character of the third movie.
Wonderful, Kahla! You're doing a great job with these movies! I'm glad to see you had your tissue handy. I think you may need them for ROTK. So, one of the beautiful pieces of music in these film's is Gollum's Song that plays over the credits for this movie. If you listen to the lyrics you'll hear that it is Gollum lamenting that he was so alone throughout his many years struggling with the ring. It is heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing this one with us. 🙂 I'm really looking forward to the last one.
The trees at the end of helms deep were different from ents. The forest the orcs ran into was not there when they marched in. It would have killed the good guys too if they'd pursued.
That’s what I figured especially since Merry and Pippin almost got done in by one of those trees earlier in the movie.
They were Huorns (wild trees). Without the Ents around to manage them, they tended to get up to all sorts of mischief. The Ents pointed them at the orcs and slipped the leash off them.
So many moments in this movie give me goosebumps and bring me to tears, all these years later 🧡
Awesome trilogy ❤ my only complaint is Legolas' eye color changing from blue (contacts) to brown (natural color) throughout the movies. They forgot his contacts in a lot of scenes.
Great reaction ❤
I understand why they did what they did with Faramir, it's just a shame they. In the book he understands that the ring destroyed his brother and realizes that it cannot save Gondor. He's not even tempted to take the ring for this reason and he lets them go.
14:33 it's not, Faramir just made that up to test Frodo. He was really going to kill Gollum though, because he believed Gollum was an enemy spy.
When they are talking about the "Old Stories" there...Tolkien actually wrote them, or at least tried to. He never finished the stories, but his son collected them and published them after his death as The Silmarillion. One of the characters in that is also called "the brave" and he's a great elvish king. But, what he's most known for is rescuing his friend from the Enemy's prison even though he believed this friend had betrayed him.
This is why we all recommend the extended version
The 'forbidden pool" is forbidden because it's right outside their hideout, and it's a death sentence because they can't afford anyone accidentally discovering where their base of operations is.
jackson took terrific liberties with the subject matter and narrative in this movie. you should read the book to get a better idea of how things actually played out.
That ladder tactic is a real thing that was used in battles historically and my reaction is always the same as yours when I see it 😂 it's so freaky!
They really did farmer dirty in these movies
You have such wonderful moments of unintentional cuteness, excellent story engagement, and that color green looks great on you. 10/10
Elrond is like 6000 so his daughter Arwen is like 2.500, and so Aragorn is very young for elves. And an elf is considered adult at his 100 and even 6 centuries later is still like an equivalent of human teenager :)
"I love how Gimli & Legolas..how their friendship has grown during this whole journey"
If you knew the history of Dwarves & Elves since at least before the days of Thorin, you would be even more amazed. All the more reason to watch The Hobbit & get some substance and backstory. Also a chance to catch up with some old friends 😉
I saw someone say it on another video a while ago but, Aragorn has been living off the land for a long time as a ranger. What was in that stew!?! lol
Gimli got his cloak from Lady Galadriel; Legolas got his from Dr. Strange.
I tell you what, I’m a Star Wars fan all day, but LOTR is the best trilogy of movies ever made.
Love it, "these movies are so long and so short". How to sum up T.L.O.T.R epic's in one short line, well done girl..... respect from Down Under.
I wanted to highlight your comment about loving the "turning of the tides", because it's thematically such an important point. Tolkien wrote about it at length in his essay On Fairy-Stories, where he argues it's the highest function of such stories to provide moral or emotional consolation. He coined the term "eucatastrophe" to describe the "sudden joyous 'turn' [...] a sudden and miraculous grace: never to be counted on to recur. It does not deny the existence of [...] sorrow and failure: the possibility of these is necessary to the joy of deliverance; it denies (in the face of much evidence, if you will) universal final defeat [...] giving a fleeting glimpse of Joy, Joy beyond the walls of the world, poignant as grief."
All this to say, I can't wait to see your Return of the King reactions!
I always cry during Sam's speech. It just really hits them feels...🥲
Sean astin has allways been a master of emotional monologues he allready was in the goonies
Sam has come a long way... from eavesdroppin' on Gandalf and Frodo in Bagend,
to 'There's good in the world, Mr Frodo, and its worth fighting for...'
...and he'll keep on growing...
definitely have a stack of tissues ready for the 3rd part, Kahla 🙂🙃🌈
Wonderful reactions! Always a pleasure to watch someone become so invested, and catch the meanings, as evidenced by how often you predict the next line. Impatiently awaiting the rest, here
RIP Bernard Hill. Legend and forever Lord of the Rohirrim.
About Aragon’s age: at the end of the first age Elrond and his twin brother Elros, who had both elf and human blood from both of their parents were given the choice as to which side would predominate. Elrond chose his elf side and remained immortal. Elros chose his human side and became mortal, but with a much longer life span than most humans. His descendants also shared that extended life span. Aragon’s was a direct descendant of Elros., so technically he and Elrond were cousins.
Sam's words ring true in his world, and our own. We do live in dark times. But nothing lasts forever, And when goodness, respect, love and brotherhood return, it WILL shine brighter than before.
I really have to say that it is wonderful to follow you on this journey. You see everything, understand everything and feel everything... It is a real joy. 😀👌🙏❣
@4:33 Every reactor’s reaction to Legolas getting on the horse is different, but never lacking awe.
Its probably somewhere in the comment's, and you may not see this considering the age, the elfs dont arrive in the book, in the movie it gives a sense of hope, in the book everyone, is a lossing battle, yet the will of man fights, till death, which brings meaning to the 3rd movie, the ride of the rohan