As an Azata Bard, I literally have no more room for abilities/spells on my hotkey bars--and I'm only Level 11. It's absolutely stupefying how much one bard can do, and the synergy with that Mythic Path makes you a literal Lord of Song as you can (somehow) play two songs at once. I love it.
I have to say, the perception of a Bard as a "support class" is as misguided as using a Cleric for in-combat healing. Bards in 3.5 and Pathfinder are phenomenally versatile and can be easily built for a large variety of roles. In videogames especially they are very good, being a Charisma-based skill-heavy class (dialogue skillchecks yo). A Bard can easily hold his own as a gish, as a dedicated Enchanter spellcaster, or a secondary rogue. Looking forward to the next video! Bloodrager is a weird one.
To add, Bard with at least one Sneak attack die, will be able to pick up rogue talents. So Trickster+Bard, or Bard+1lvl Vivisectionist, or Bard+Slayer will be able to pick rouge talents, Archeologist will be able to pick also all advanced rogue talents.
The thunder caller is pretty good, bards get 40+ rounds of performance at level 20 so the thunder caller can use thunder call which would deal 9d8 40+ times per day AND he can use his performance while doing so, so he pretty much won't need weapons especially if you get extra performance feats.
Great video. I wonder if Dirge's spells affect friendly undead like they do hostile ones. A bardic lich with his buffed, vibing army of groovy undead would be a sight to behold.
The Beast Tamer looks great, one of my builds in Kingmaker was a summoning cleric which was awesome but the beast tamer looks better, especially with the mythic boosts. Character generation is going to take me forever deciding….
My first team will be MC (Paladin), Seelah (Warpriest), Lann (Inquisitor), Sosiel (Cleric) and Ember (Witch). But then, I was wondering : man, you lack at least 1 arcane caster, a rogue-like character to disarm traps, a lot of your buffs are redundant... and then, I found the Dirge Bard. Good buffs, rogue-like, arcane caster, very good controler with a focus on enchantment, illusion and necromancy ? Also can summon non-evil undeads ? Ok, I hire you as soon as possible.
I was wondering if you were more of a fan, then, of DnD’s bards? I don’t much care for these subtypes but I personally really like some of the schools bards in DnD get. It makes them feel like far more than a musician.
Only the Dirge Bard; via performance. And, tadaa: As a swift action ;) They normally get the weak Summon Ally,; and too late to be any useful. In general, they focus on Enchantment ( their main school) and Illusion, while their other offensive spell capacities tend to fall off significantly. After all, their main jobs are to enlighten their friends, and to strike fear into the hearts of their enemies. :P
I want to have a bard companion in my team in WotR, but none of the companions in the game are bards so I think I'll respec one of them. Suggestions for good candidates?
As an Azata Bard, I literally have no more room for abilities/spells on my hotkey bars--and I'm only Level 11. It's absolutely stupefying how much one bard can do, and the synergy with that Mythic Path makes you a literal Lord of Song as you can (somehow) play two songs at once. I love it.
I have to say, the perception of a Bard as a "support class" is as misguided as using a Cleric for in-combat healing. Bards in 3.5 and Pathfinder are phenomenally versatile and can be easily built for a large variety of roles. In videogames especially they are very good, being a Charisma-based skill-heavy class (dialogue skillchecks yo). A Bard can easily hold his own as a gish, as a dedicated Enchanter spellcaster, or a secondary rogue.
Looking forward to the next video! Bloodrager is a weird one.
To add, Bard with at least one Sneak attack die, will be able to pick up rogue talents. So Trickster+Bard, or Bard+1lvl Vivisectionist, or Bard+Slayer will be able to pick rouge talents, Archeologist will be able to pick also all advanced rogue talents.
The thunder caller is pretty good, bards get 40+ rounds of performance at level 20 so the thunder caller can use thunder call which would deal 9d8 40+ times per day AND he can use his performance while doing so, so he pretty much won't need weapons especially if you get extra performance feats.
Great video. I wonder if Dirge's spells affect friendly undead like they do hostile ones.
A bardic lich with his buffed, vibing army of groovy undead would be a sight to behold.
The Beast Tamer looks great, one of my builds in Kingmaker was a summoning cleric which was awesome but the beast tamer looks better, especially with the mythic boosts. Character generation is going to take me forever deciding….
Undead are normally a problem for bards, so dirge bard looks very interesting
My first team will be MC (Paladin), Seelah (Warpriest), Lann (Inquisitor), Sosiel (Cleric) and Ember (Witch). But then, I was wondering : man, you lack at least 1 arcane caster, a rogue-like character to disarm traps, a lot of your buffs are redundant... and then, I found the Dirge Bard. Good buffs, rogue-like, arcane caster, very good controler with a focus on enchantment, illusion and necromancy ? Also can summon non-evil undeads ? Ok, I hire you as soon as possible.
Kinda just stumbled into making a teammate a beast tamer bard. The summons are crazy in terms of action economy
I was wondering if you were more of a fan, then, of DnD’s bards? I don’t much care for these subtypes but I personally really like some of the schools bards in DnD get. It makes them feel like far more than a musician.
Nah I don't like bards in general
@@MortismalGaming Well guess who won't be singing at your tavern anytime soon.
Love these videos, keep up the good work.
ASMR subclass :)
So does the Beast Tamer's Inspire Ferocity *only* work on summoned creatures and pets, or is the tooltip just phrased confusingly?
I was going to ask can i make a bard a less supportive class
love your videos
Does anyone know if Animate Dead is on the Bard’s spell list?
Only the Dirge Bard; via performance. And, tadaa: As a swift action ;) They normally get the weak Summon Ally,; and too late to be any useful.
In general, they focus on Enchantment ( their main school) and Illusion, while their other offensive spell capacities tend to fall off significantly.
After all, their main jobs are to enlighten their friends, and to strike fear into the hearts of their enemies. :P
I want to have a bard companion in my team in WotR, but none of the companions in the game are bards so I think I'll respec one of them. Suggestions for good candidates?
U can do a bard with seelah as a martyr ? A paladin-type bard who is less buff-oriented with his spells but is more melee.
There is a recruitable Bard companion.......that's exclusive in the Trickster path.