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Al Capone wasn’t from Sicily, his parents were from Naples. Sicilians are naturally darker as a whole, even when not “tan”. Also, Latin Americans play Sicilians all the time and vice versa, so what does that tell us? We are mixed, we as in Sicilians that is and southern Italians have a separate lineage than northern Italians anyway.
I’ve posted this before on other videos but it’s even more relevant here. Here are some exerts from the study, “Genomic history of the Italian population recapitulates key evolutionary dynamics of both Continental and Southern Europeans.”: “ the well-established cultural and genetic diversity of the Italian population, some of the most outstanding among those observable across the entire European continent” - So the study sets out to find out why there are observable and outstanding differences between northern and southern Italians. “To date, remarkable efforts have elucidated important aspects of the demography of the ancestors of modern Italians, which have contributed to their heterogeneous genetic background”. - Heterogenous means unalike or distinct from one another backgrounds. The researchers noted two different lineages going back to separate places. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to ancient European cultures. On the other hand, southern Italians were found to have a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa. “Italian samples turned out to be located on two considerably divergent branches“ - This is the result, we come from two different branches of the evolutionary tree. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in Northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to other ancient Northern European cultures. On the other hand, Southern Italians were found to have a different origin that was a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa. That along with the fact that our geographic differences also contributed to additional evolutionary genetic differences between the two. 'In the subjects from northern Italy, we observed changes in the gene networks regulating insulin and body-heat production as well as in those responsible for fat tissue metabolism.' When it came to southern Italian peculiarities, the researchers found the genes that modify the production of melanin, which is the pigment that provides skin color that resulted in darker skin and hair. These are just a couple examples of many in differences between the north and south; in differences between two already different branches of the evolutionary tree. Yes, mixing has also occurred and contributed to changes in the population. However, the two Italian populations are in fact different and distinct from each other.
@@GhostSal Bullshit, by the way the highest percentage of germanic Haplogroup in Italy is southeast of Rome 15-20 %. The Lombards were in the south the longest. ruled in the south until 1105. As I said, if you have no idea, it's best not to write anything. After that there were Spaniards and French in the south, but in the 15th century Balkan people (Croatians, Albanians) migrated (they fled from the turks). There are Franco-Provençal dialects in Sicily and Apulia, there are Croatian language pockets in Molise, there are Greek language pockets in Calabria and southern Apulia. Italy is full of minorities from north to south. Catalans in Sardinia, Slovenes in Friuli, Alemanni in Piedmont, Walser in the Aosta Valley etc. etc. But nor arabs or sub-saharan monorities. They have only immigrated to Italy in the last 30 years.
@@franz9573 The Lombards ruled for a time but left very very little DNA, there’s a big difference between ruling and leaving DNA influence. So next time before you say something about not talking about things you don’t know, you should take your own advice my friend. They never ruled over Sicily either. Also, I never said there wasn’t Greek influence and am well aware Greek is spoken in parts of Italy. I’m also well aware we (southern Italians) have genetic lineage with the Greeks. As for the study I cited it was the most comprehensive study ever done and included over 20 universities led by Oxford. So you claiming it’s BS, is absurd, believe as you wish but what I stated is true. Next time try to consider that you don’t know everything and don’t come at me like you do. I’m sure you as well have valuable knowledge I’d likely find interesting but considering the way you came at me I’m less interested in hearing what you have to say.
@@GhostSal I did not write that the Lombards ruled over Sicily. They ruled southeast of Rome until 1105 and founded cities. I saw your video about Columbus, I'd rather not say anything about it, what a load of crap. Anyway, you really have a problem with who's whiter and who's darker. This is a typical American problem but you better take care of your own history and don't interfere in our history because you have no idea, ours is almost 3000 years old, if you can't deal with your past and your racism is not our problem. Your problem is telling untruths about our culture and our history. In terms of general knowledge, you guys in the US are pretty bad and this worldwide, especially when it comes to history and geography outside the USA. And you're not italian or of italian descent. You better write about your own ancestry or are you ashamed of it? Mr. Jackson
Because the black African part isn't true. People think it's a hatred of negroid people's. That isn't it. It's historical inaccuracy and also meant as an insult.
Yeah a lot to do with it is with people claiming things back. Can you imagine around the world *cough*Egypt*cough* if certain ethnic origins were known? There would be uproar and a lot of people worried about losing ownship of things
Curiously enough, Finn's were not classified as white in the USA till after the mid 1920s. There has been a video about it on this channel. In a way, Finn's were too white to be white! They looked different to someone from France or England. It just goes to show that the classification of white and black is very arbitrary and fickle. Just a way of othering, "us and them" and shaped entirely by the history of the US being a two tier society, split along racial lines.
Or some Japanese and Korean people! They can be really light-skinned; the Japanese man in the example that Danielle used in the video is just one example.
I'm from southern Italy, Sardinia, i can assure you my dad is often mistaken for being north african or indian. The same can be said about many other sardinians. Of course there are also lighter people in the south, my mom for example has fair skin and green eyes and people often ask her if she's foreign but she is as sardinian as my dad. You should make a video on Sardinia's genetic and history! It's very unique and often not talked about enough.
@@gloriathomas3245 Yes, Spaniards usually touch the equator every morning, when they get up ahahaha. You must go to Spain, is beautiful (as well as equatorial). Consult a map .-)
@@nytn Hello Im I'm Dog The Bounty Hunters Fan 💬 • Pharaoh-Slayers & Wise-Man-Slayers It Is A Mosiac SKIN COMPLEXION Race = Melinn Skin By That Producing skin from the sun Like Jan Eliot 💬
History channel?? LMAO..it is sh@t to make views and to boost SSAfricans ego. There isn't a single scientific study in this channel, just outdated theories. That blog is far more scientific than whatever this liar says in her channel.
The whole time I was in college and grad school, literally every Middle Eastern dude I met insisted I was either Egyptian or Sudanese and shouldn't be showing my legs or my hair. (Occasionally Moroccan would get tossed in there.) My oldest brother lived in Saudi Arabia for a couple years and when he walked into shops and spoke English, he'd get told off: "Stop showing off, Masri -- speak Arabic!" We can't win for losing. We insist that we are people of color, and we get told You're White And You Can't Possibly Understand, and when we say we're white, we get told we're racist for not wanting to admit what we have in common with people of color. Jesus Christ on a crosstrainer. When you're in between the twin cliffs of race and color, you get used as the rope in other people's tugs of war a lot.
That's basically similar to my experience (aka what I call the olive skin Italian descendant experience). To be fair we probably do have part Middle Eastern and/or North African ancestry as part of our Italian background in addition to native Italian/Italic.
This is cause you are american and you prlly intermix with Olive skin rest of europe… Italy is white so white that is pale ahahaha studying history and how invasion all over europe happened outside Italy woulve helped
I've travelled through Italy, which I love and the people skin color varies greatly through regional areas. You can find various shades of Africans too and not just all due to the Slave trade either! I think people like the gentleman who wrote the letter should move pass the superficial things and embrace our common humanity. Great lecture/lesson as always!
Yeah, even many "black" Americans don't know that indigenous Africans vary a lot in appearance. Indigenous Africans are actually the most genetically diverse population of our species because they've had the most generations.
@@rifleman4005 In fact, it would not have made economic sense for the Romans to set up a large-scale trade from Africa while there was a need for slaves in Africa. It also didn't make sense to bring people accustomed to the heat to cold places. Winter in Italy can be unpleasant. Furthermore, African slaves did not confer prestige on the master. We also have many testimonies that, according to the Romans, who were superstitious, black people were bad luck.
Rights it’s the region of the world where the oldest civilizations start all over the Mediterranean a place where three continents come together almost all of which boats lol
Al Capone is Napolitano not Sicilian. My dad is Sicilian and Irish mix but everyone thinks he's Mexican and looks Mexican or Puerto Rican. He got DNA test and he's not Latino at all😂😂😂
Al Capone also lived in Chicago which is a Northern State that's cloudy and rainy most of the time. And he also was a cokehead. So ofc he's gonna look bad
You are incorrect. Sicilian and southern Italians even now are brown skinned. It's simple science 10 scan helps you survive and dark Sun. White skin only comes from the nordics.
I don't see the problem with having tan skin it's only logical even the Romans mentioned it. Even the Romans knew that they weren't the fairest or the blackest. In fact the rolling star being perfectly tan with Superior
Yesterday, someone anonymously asked a question in a Facebook group if all Southern Italians, get assigned a percentage of African ethnicity. The question floored me. First, by asking a question that includes "all" or "none," the mathematical odds are against it being provable. Plus, the ethnicity estimates are based on comparing an individual's DNA segments against the DNA of the people in a reference population. The DNA companies do not use the person's self-assessment of their ethnicity for the comparison of DNA segments. Thanks for this video. It's very interesting.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Even siblings with the same surname get different ethnicities. If the same person sent in two samples with the same surname, they would get different ethnicities. The ethnicity estimates, by definition, cannot be precise. They are reported (on AncestryDNA) in a range of percentage. If you click on the percent, you'll see the range. On 23andMe, you can change the confidence level and see the ethnicity estimates change.
@@nytn This ain't nothing. If you want to see real drama, make a video about the race of the Ancient Egyptians! You'll be bombarded by Neo Nazis, Afro Nazis and my personal fave Coptic Nazis. Everyone will hate you. But I recommend you start small and do a video about whether or not Dominicans or Somalis are black. Fun times, girl, fun times!
Would you tell a Senegalese that he is white, but that he sees himself as black and is wrong? You are telling Europeans that they are black. You have to travel. Don't make it like suitcases, though, because it's useless. It's not about who is better or what color is better (Italians don't care about color and much less about shade), but about reality.
It's a part of human psychology to rank people based on traits, physical characteristics. Kin groups recognise each other by facial familiarity and see those as outsiders who don't share those traits.
@@Sdfghjtgy1 Look, our psychology is very different: we distinguish people by considering differently those who lived in huts 1500 years ago (and did the same much later) and those who speculated by building condominiums with underfloor heating. Let's leave the game of dividing people by color to you.
My son is part Sicilian. But, according to his DNA results, he has no Italian DNA. He has Tunisian, Greek, Spanish, Balkans heritage, and more, but mostly British from my side of the family. Also, my son, when younger and outside a lot, was light skinned in the winter months and pretty darkly tanned in the warmer months. He looks like what I’ve heard called the “classic” Italian. My daughter-in-law told me one time that she could tell he’s Italian and that he has the Italian nose.
@@nytn … Yeah, that’s what I thought. Also, an Italian friend once told me the Italians don’t consider Sicilians to be Italian. Have you heard that said?
I definitely have, and also the other way around. I think at this point, it's hard to make the divisions make sense as Italian Americans, but I am bringing on a professor from Italy who did a lot of work on that. apparently, upon arrival, there was not a feeling of being "Italian" but it was very much community oriented identity.
I would like to take this moment to compliment you on your work. I have been watching your podcast since you started. You are doing a great job at revealing some hidden secrets in the American Complex.
Phenotype is often unrelated to ethnicity. My mother was of mostly German and English background. She had black hair and blue eyes and got very tan in the summer. My dad was mostly of Irish and English background. He had black hair and interesting eyes, brown in the center with gold flecks and a blue ring around the edge. He had pasty white skin. I got the pasty white skin. When I was in college someone in my car pool asked me if my mother was Native American because of her looks. They didn't think I was Native American, but they thought my mother was. Go figure.
Americans don’t really know what pure Native American Indians look like because of how few they are. So they’re mostly used to part White Indians. Frankly you’re average Mexican is more indigenous than most North American Indians
My Algerian friends ( North Africans ) They are lighter than my southern Italian friends. South Italians share lots of social culture with Africans, family orientated more outdoors and socially engaging. It's nothing to be ashamed of it's a strength.
No, no we do not share anything with Muslims. Italians will never be Muslim. The immigration issue will be solved soon. We are tired of peopple coming from Muslim countries and not respecting Italian culture.
I'm half italian. I took a DNA test and was matched to many other Italians I'm related to. None of us had sub saharan african DNA. Most had 1-2% MENA , middle east/north african DNA.
Danielle, the only objective and empirical way to address the issue of “mixed” is to look at the genomic data and paternal and maternal haplogroups of the Italian peninsula. The Italian genome (like all of Europe) is composed of mainly: Western Hunter Gatherer, Anatolian Neolithic Farmer, and Eurasian Steppe ancestry. It’s geographic position also contributed to admixture of Levantine/West Asian, North African (Iberomaurusian/Carthaginian) that is not generally present in Europe outside of the Mediterranean Basin. These admixtures happened in prehistory and antiquity and were regional events. In short, everyone everywhere is “mixed” and we have far too much data on the human genome available for people to have such basic misunderstandings of the history of human migration. Some of the details are up for debate and interpretation, but the big picture is pretty well settled by the evidence.
I thought only with food recipes, we use the term mix. We use that term with pets and farm animals calling them mixed breeds. Perhaps, we should use the word hybrid? It is equally disingenuous. I thought the video on UA-cam was very informative about human skin color by Professor Nina Jablonski.
Everyone is mixed, but a mix of 2000 years ago or more why should be important? The American way of thinking is disconcerting. In Italy we take culture into account, not skin color. Here there are also Italians with grandmothers or great-grandmothers from Asmara, but they are Italians if they are of italian culture. Imagine someone whose ancestor in 900 AD was raped by a Berber in Sicily.
Nothing like what is happening in the present day and populations were pretty stable for a long time. It is why they can do dna tests and give you a pretty good idea of what you are. This is especially so with some smaller populations as some countries like Italy for example are too diverse to have one reference. North Italy is different than South Italy genetically for example.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590As a black American we have been trying to get the rest of the world see how we have been treated throughout our history here. They deny us our right to be American, even though most of our ancestors were here before most if not all of their's came here.
Yes and the most definitely haven’t been to Italy. The statement that Italians have never mixed with anyone else is ridiculous, especially when Romans were known to invade and conquer just about every other country around them, and take on aspects of each culture conquered, including slaves that they would mix with.
Or seen someone of Slavic or Germanic origin.... people of Aryan blood. Not that I have ei...oh, wait I only need to look at my father and father and law (Polish and German respectively) to know that person is full of it. Granted, being that their bout 60 now and grew up in the western part of US they pretty much have permently tanned forearms.
I'm ADOS, which is a Acronym for American Desendant of Chattel Slavery. I have reddish brown hair, hazel eyes and tan skin. There's light and Dark skin in all races of people.😅
@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 Every morning I go to pick up my sister's (who died of cancer) children from school. The school population is made up of 30% foreigners. 10% are Chinese, the remaining 20% is made up of a bit of everything. Many are Moroccan. The mothers of Moroccan children are white, but no Italian has their tone of white. It's absolutely different. As if it had a different reflection, not pink. I'm talking about the white ones, because many are darker and some with negroid features, such as thick lips and very thick eyelids. Chinese people come in many shades: some almost indistinguishable from the skin of an average Italian and others absolutely different. So, all continents have skin tones, but they are never equal.
Italy is not homogenous. Different areas have different admixtures. Southern Italy is closely related to Greeks , with a sprinkle of N. African DNA. My father is from Abruzzo region and I took a DNA test , out of curiosity cause I wondered this myself. I have thick , red hair. I only had 0.003% african (Ghanaian) the rest was N. Italian , 2% Agean Islands, 1% N African. All the Italians they matched me up with (related to on dna test) didn't have any african , other than 1-2% MENA (middle east/north africa)
@@tina-g8pall bs, look at the melting pot outside italy in europe if you like this topic so much ahahaha you would find a big pool holding 4000 diff genes (africans Arabs, Mongolians, Hunns, Indians) invasions over the centuries that here in italy never happened
@@nukekidontheblock8349 Invasions never happened? I'm curious now. What about the arab culture left in southern Italy? Pulgia region? I've known some Syrian people that will be talking to their kids and say "no mama" or something like that , and Italians always do that. I found that interesting , went home and asked my father about it lol. I did a 23 and me , and it matched me to other italians , and all of them showed maybe 1-2% MENA , nothing big. I didn't even see any with African or Asian DNA in them, so I'd say there might be very small remnants but nothing substantial at all. Maybe a small % do have more, mostly in Sicily.
I’m full Italian heritage and here in the US automatically get mistaken for Hispanic. When I go back to Italy to visit my family or just travel around I get mistaken for either being from South America or an Arabic country.
Due to me moving to the Caribbean, I'm mistaken as South American, Puerto Rican, Dominican 🇩🇴 by the Hispanics. The Arab population mistake me as being an Arab. I'm half Sicilian. My mother was sometimes told she looked Jewish. She is my Sicilian parent with 2 parents from Sicily. I did a DNA test, and there is no Jewish, but there are Arab, Greek, & North African genes as well as majority Sicilian.
There are particular areas in southern Italy where some folks have an Iberian phenotype, more gracile. Not the norm but it’s seen a bit in the Campania region. Most Italians think Totti is the textbook common Italian phenotype but Italians have a very varied and distinct look.
@@GinoOrthoBro Totti is a typical Italian infact he just has blue eyes and dark blonde hair. A typical Italian is someone like Renzi , i can't see anything exotic in him infact. Italy is not even the same phenotypically from North to South and btw all Europe has very varied and distinct looks. 🤦♂🤦♂
Hispanic in America and Latin America has no ethnic connections. But usually it’s used to refer to very mixed people or people with strong Amerindian features. But it really shouldn’t since it causes a lot of confusion
@@urpreposterous682 those dna testa are fake pal. Don't pay non sense. There's no such thing as Greek, NA or Arab blood. I'm full blooded Italian all my family tree has never been to Shitxico or a Latin country and welp... the shit say I'm part mexican. Also did this happen with other friends. Those test are sham.
As someone who’s been everywhere in Italy, the email is hilarious. Most people that wrote these sort of thing spend most of their time on echo chamber web forums and chat groups and have probably never travelled out of their own state.
You have been in Italy so what?? Have you seen Levantine or North African looking Italians everywhere ?? Most Italians could pass as your average French. At most it's you who fantasize to have visited Italy.
@@alessandrom7181 " Have you seen Levantine or North African looking Italians everywhere ?? ".. Yes, actually. I did see them everywhere. Also, there are a lot of "French" looking people that are also swarthy.
@@adetorrent Yeah sure, so it's clear that you have never ben in Italy or you need to get a reality check and go to North Africa and Levant to see their features, take my advice. LOL Also we have immigrants and mixed couple as well in Italy. Duh Being swarty has not the same meaning of looking Na or Me either. You are saying quite a lot of BS huh?
I’ve posted this before on other videos but it’s even more relevant here. Here are some exerts from the study, “Genomic history of the Italian population recapitulates key evolutionary dynamics of both Continental and Southern Europeans.”: “ the well-established cultural and genetic diversity of the Italian population, some of the most outstanding among those observable across the entire European continent” - So the study sets out to find out why there are observable and outstanding differences between northern and southern Italians. “To date, remarkable efforts have elucidated important aspects of the demography of the ancestors of modern Italians, which have contributed to their heterogeneous genetic background”. - Heterogenous means unalike or distinct from one another backgrounds. The researchers noted two different lineages going back to separate places. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to ancient European cultures. On the other hand, southern Italians were found to have a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa. “Italian samples turned out to be located on two considerably divergent branches“ - This is the result, we come from two different branches of the evolutionary tree. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in Northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to other ancient Northern European cultures. On the other hand, Southern Italians were found to have a different origin that was a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa. That along with the fact that our geographic differences also contributed to additional evolutionary genetic differences between the two. 'In the subjects from northern Italy, we observed changes in the gene networks regulating insulin and body-heat production as well as in those responsible for fat tissue metabolism.' When it came to southern Italian peculiarities, the researchers found the genes that modify the production of melanin, which is the pigment that provides skin color that resulted in darker skin and hair. These are just a couple examples of many in differences between the north and south; in differences between two already different branches of the evolutionary tree. Yes, mixing has also occurred and contributed to changes in the population. However, the two Italian populations are in fact different and distinct from each other.
People, unfortunately, tend to be biased and anyone different from them tends to be maligned due to these differences. During WW2 blacks were considered to be mentally unfit to fly, but when they finally were given the chance they proved to be superior pilots! In Africa, some dark black people were biased against lighter-skinned black people and considered them something to be derided and often attacked! People tend to base reality on their very narrow views! Hell, I am a white guy in a wheelchair, and when around people they either ignore the fact that I exist, which is most people, or they are overly helpful! So, the biggest problem is that people tend to be biased and can only see things from their perspective.
I was in Italy in 1984 and i was visting my italian girlfriend's home in Prato, a town near florence, Italy, and an elderly woman, about 80 years old, came up to me and saying 'che bello!',while, trying to touch my hair, my girlfriend told me that in ancient time that it was good luck to touch black people's wooly hair. The truth is that Africa and Italy have a long history together, and they mixed frequently and shared culture that have gotten lost or whitewashed.
Here in Italy you can find light skinned individuals like Totti or Bellucci, and you can find dark skinned individuals like Di Maio or Conti. I don't understand why he talks about Capone. He's not the only italian that existed. 😂 You can find better pictures of modern italians. Of course, there higher up the country you go, the more light skin you are going to find. "African" is also a big word. Berbers are african just as much as Nigerians, but they look very much different.
Even Berbers look different. Some look like West Africans, some look like Arabs. But even that doesn't work because some Arabs look like West Africans and some look like Swedes. Genetics are random, you can get anything from anything once the sauce is mixed in.
The funny thing is that, as an italian, I don't see any differences between lighter or darker skin tone among italians. For me we are all "White". Or at least my personal version of white (european and mediterranean). At the and of the day italy received immigration for millenia and at the same time italians emigrated all over the world. "italian" is a nationality, if your passport says "Repubblica italiana" you are italian (white, black or gray, it desn't matter to me) :D
That man is the product of an American education. Last night watching Finding Your Roots, one of the guests who was German kept saying she might be Italian. In J.A. Rogers book "Sex and Race Vol. I he states: The Moors in 846A.D. seiged Rome and in 878A.D. they captured Sicily from the Normans; and in 898 they defeated Otto II of Germany in South Italy. As they did in Spain, they mixed with the native Italiana, who had also mixed with the Germans. This 3 vol. set of books is very interesting and eye opening. Growing up the only pictures of the inside of the Egyptian chambers where of Egyptians with light colored skin. Only in the past 30-40 years have the brown and black skin ones been shown. You might consider having that man take a DNA test and show you the results. Keep up your research,
"We wuz kangs"..LOLMoors never sieged Rome and it was Normans who captured Sicily to Moors , who of course were not black. Also they never mixed with Italians, at most with South Italians and even that is a big BS because the DNA of South Italy is mostly from Iron age time.
Just a heads up. You said you were going to do a video on the Black Irish. Celtic is pronounced Keltic. I enjoy your videos a lot. I find them very interesting. Keep up the good work.
after all southern italy and sicily (including malta and western sicily) have a greek anatolian byzantine (euro+ western asia) based DNA but during the imperial roman era we also had levantine (syrian, lebanese and italic) influence in addition to all this Mixed DNA During the Middle Ages Southern Italy had French and Lombard influence. while Norman influence (5%) and Berber influence (10%) in western Sicily. Also in the Norman era, the center of Sicily and around Palermo was influenced by Northern Italy (immigrant vassals of the Normans). after all, western Sicily and Malta are very Europeanised
False, even from not so necessareis studies, Italic are pure and white and never mixed with anyone, unlike the big pool of different etnies in the rest of europe that faced endless invasion and here in Italy never settled… j
You even have siculo in your name, what a shame, youre prolly a fake account no italian is this dumb, Siculi were among the sub Italic races with Latins Reti and Veneti, t White and that mever mixed, that exist since 4000 years ago, if your ancestor listens to you you would be already gone
MY father-in-law was a second generation Sicilian, from Palermo. He was never "pale", but he did get darker in just one afternoon outside, in the garden.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Yes, I am blessed to have a wife who makes the best Italian dishes, including eggplant! I lived with my in-laws while finishing college, and Italian people, to me, have it right: family, faith and friends - the fourth "f" is food. I am proud of my Celtic roots, but the Italians' food and culture is the greatest on earth.
There are more white blonde blue eyes italians than chineses in america which is a lot ahahahah, amd btw Italians get the tan in the summer ofc it became red first, and the tan go away in the firsts shower in autumn, unlike the rest of europe that faced countless invasion during the centuries from Arab Africans mongolians Turks indians that here in italy never settled
You have a beautiful and glowing complexion! We have pretty much the same skin color. I get a little lighter in the winter but quickly turn light caramel brown in the summer. I am mixed, but I do have Sicilian ancestry so learning all of this is very special to me (because I also have that distant North African admixture).
I recently found this channel. I’m a huge history buff myself and of course Italian. My maternal grandparents immigrated from a northern Italian town named Bettola. Believe my paternal great-grandparents came from Genoa. I really had no idea that Italians used to never be considered “white”, because I’ve always thought of myself as white. Though my wife tells me I’m not, I’m Italian. lol If you like American history, you might be interested in reading a book called “Puritan’s Empire” by Charles Coulombe. It gives you a perspective of history you probably didn’t get in school. Ciao!
Thanks for the vid, Danielle! Have been with you at 5k subs. 😊 Have just seen a short clip of Leonardo di Caprio. The interview was taken when he was probably a late teen. He said that when he was starting out in showbiz (around 6 or 7 yrs old), his agent wanted him to change his name because it sounded "too ethnic". (meaning - too Italian) Agent wanted to change his name to Lenny Williams. (Lenny bcos Leonardo, Williams bcos his 2nd name is Wilhelm - his mom is of German anceatry). This was in the late 70s or early 80s (when Leo was a kid). There still was discrimination on Italians. Similar situation when Martin Sheen changed his stage name from Ramon Estevez (his real name). This was in late 50s to early 60s & there was discrimination for Spanish/ Hispanic sounding names in Hollywood. His son, Emilio Estevez, didn't change his name (but son Charlie did - his real name is Carlos Estevez). I've just remembered your vid on changing names.
I have family that comes over from Sicily and gets mistaken for Mexican all the time. My uncles, father, and grandfather that líve in the U.S. also get mistaken for Mexican. I used to get mistaken for PR when I was younger. So I wouldn’t say all Italians look the same and can all be described as “whíte”. Also, I’m not trying to argue, if you feel differently that’s your choice. I’m just sharing my own experiences.
@@GhostSal Io sono Napoletano, mi guardo attorno tra amici e conoscenti, tutti bianchi, scendo in strada e sono tutti bianchi tranne gli immigrati di colore. Conosco una Siciliana di Pechino, bianca con gli occhi chiari, un calabrese di Crotone, pure lui bianco. Il colore della pelle non ha importanza, ma non si capisce per quale motivo si debba alterare la realtà dei fatti.
The Western European phrase tall, dark and handsome refers to Mediterranean men and Eastern Europeans...the dark bit refers to their skin being much darker than other Europeans.
Not necessarily. Cary Grant, nor Rock Hudson, nor many others were of Mediterranean or Eastern European heritage, for example. Plus, generally, the Mediterranean phenotype is not as tall as that of Northwest Europe.
@asturiasceltic3183 The phrase actually started out as an insult or backhanded comment similar to "you are pretty for a dark-skinned/Black girl". Now, it's used to compliment men with dark skin or dark hair, but in Western Europe, it's still mainly used for men with darker skin.
@@knowledgeisablessing8767 yes I knew about Rock Hudson being of German background. Cary Grant I never cared for.. he always rubbed me the wrong way. Supposedly he wasn't a very nice person. I thought the tall dark and handsome thing went back to the silent film era of the days of Valentino and Ramon Novarro,, who played dashing lady's men of ethnic origin and darker hair.
I have a friend who is Italian-American of Sicilian descent. She has used tanning beds in the past and so was always very tan but when she didn’t her skin was lighter, of course but she tans very nicely. Her hair is pure black (she dyes it now) but she said that was her natural color before going gray. Her two sisters were also similar in color although my friend for some reason looks darker and her hair is also quite coarse. She has said that especially after 9/11, she and her sisters were often stopped during airport check ins because they traveled a lot. Her son, who’s adopted and looks nothing like her joked that they looked middle eastern. My guess is if she ever took a DNA test, some interesting ancestry would show up!😂
I saw that video too. Thanks for the reminder. I went back to look at the guy and he does look very European and the way I use to remember Italians looking like.
My ex from Lecce would go very dark in the sun, my Friend Irene from Frioul has olive skin. All people across the world have mixed. The mediterranean is a melting pot. George Brassens, a french poet/song writer looked like a friend of mine from Algeria. I am French, with nearly sort of yellowish skin, but of course, my DNA is as mixed as any European DNA: Viking, Northern Italy/Swiss, Asian, Spanish including northern Africa, Welsh, Irish, western French. This obsession with skin tone is American. They created colorism. I used to teach English in a Jewish seminary for girls 17 to 19 in the UK. I was chosen for this job because I am bilingual (French and English). The secretary who was enrolling them was a Brit. She insisted the girls were "non-white". I do not really care one way or the other, but in France, these girls were FRENCH, and nobody in France ever discussed their skin colour because to us they look white, in the way we understand white...I told the secretary to either NOT use the colour box, or put white. We had a spat and I had to call the boss. They remained white. The American way to describe colour is a disgrace.
Speaking of 'legally white' I was flabbergasted when I came upon an entry in the church of England baptismal records in Jamaica in the late 1700's to 1800's, before the abolition of the slave trade, that describes a man as being legally white. Before abolition all entries had a column for colour/race of child. I couldn't understand what it meant, but this video has given me a better understanding. My 2x great grand mother was described as sambo. Have you come across this term before?
That derives from the list of "castas" or terms that the Spanish came up with to describe people of different racial mixtures in their empire. Sambo or Zambo usually meant someone of mixed South American indigenous and African ethnicity, and could also mean someone with that ethnicity who also had European DNA mixed in.
I always look forward to seeing your posts ❤ hope your having a great week! Also, this guy. 😂 Let me tell you my “olive skin tone” has never looked gray but has always looked golden. What a wise guy. SMH
@@jujutrini8412 Well the country of Egypt is even suing Netflix for their documentary of Cleopatra where they casted an actress of sub-saharan ancestry with an afro. I guess egyptians don't like being falsely represented...
As a Nigerian Doctor based in LA, It is important to clarify that the legal action taken against Netflix is not initiated by the Egyptian state, but rather by an individual Egyptian lawyer. This distinction is crucial as it significantly influences the context and potential implications of the lawsuit. The prospect of this case's success appears to be limited for several reasons. Typically, legal actions brought by individuals against large, international corporations face considerable challenges, ranging from the complexities of international law to the substantial legal resources that companies like Netflix can mobilize in their defense. Furthermore, it's noteworthy to mention unrelated but interesting genetic findings as part of our broader discussion on the diversity of Egypt's population. Modern Egyptian DNA showcases a blend of ancestries, with an average composition of 15% East African, 5% Mediterranean, and 12% Middle Eastern DNA. However, a more detailed analysis reveals that individuals from Southern Egypt (Upper Egypt) exhibit up to 44% East African DNA. This genetic diversity highlights the rich, multifaceted heritage of the Egyptian people, reflecting millennia of migrations, interactions, and cultural exchanges.
I also wanted to mention you have to make sure your great grandfather didn't get American citizenship, or else you don't qualify . I know because it happened to me as both my parents became Canadians before I was born, thus revoking Italian citizenship.
@@Antonio-o4s8r In US it doesn't matter if they got US citizenship, as long as it wasn't before July 1 1912 and they officially didn't renounce their Italian citizenship in an official manner through paperwork directly to the Italian government. Many Italian immigrants to the U.S. didn't get their US citizenship until well after July 1, 1912 AND never bothered to file paperwork with the Italian government to renounce their Italian citizenship because the USA never required them to do so. As a result, there a millions of Italian-Americans in USA that have been Italian citizens from birth.
Full blooded Italians are completely European. Just varying percentages of different but related parent groups, all of which are close anyway. Central and Northern Italy is largely the old Etruscans and Steppe (Norse, Celtic etc.) with Etruscans being ethnically the same as the Steppe. SE Italy is more Greek, and Southern Italy isn't actually "North African", rather it's just that many North African tribes descended from the same parent group (are especially known for their gray/light eyes) and have since added Arab, sub Saharan and other admixtures. So in short yes, despite varying percentages of parent groups Italians are fully European.
@@nytn You have no arguments and no scientific basis so the only thing you can do is to put smiles and be thumbed up by a bunch of we wuz kangsters infact. LOL.
@giuliettamassina7787 0 seconds ago I spent some time in northern Italy, Venice in the 90s. The prejudice faced by southerners is pretty blatant, and not dissimilar to Jim Crow in the US. They wrote "stating southerners need not apply". It was addressed in the newspapers etc.. I even had conversations with Southern who were drawn to myself, black, and Korean freinds and stated that we seemed more open and friendly than the northerners!
This e-mail was a bunch of self-hate misdirected at you... bet he thought he really showed you one lol. Thank you for being scholarly about it and your constant reminders to us about the changing definitions of "whiteness" and your open mind to truth wherever you find it. You coulda really roasted this guy and here you were very classy. Hopefully you get to that 100,000 subscriber mark soon! You should do a poll on what kind of celebration to have on your channel. :)
The color of snow is "white." Human skin color is incredibly diverse, and it varies across different ethnicities and individuals. Humans vary in light-skinned tone, fair skinned tone, brown skin etc. Human skin color is closely linked to geography and the sun ultraviolet. Variations in pigmentation arise to difference in melanin production. Melanocytes in humans varies, some have more, some less responsible for skin tone. No one is better than the other. As humans, we all are bleed red and cry tears. And yes, the Southern Italians were segregated as blacks on the census form from the South. Skin colorism is a global issue.
@@Percept2024 Africans have the widest DNA span which is why scientists think everyone is from Africa. There are tribes with Caucasian features but are very dark skin, basically black people Knowing this I find it so strange how people see black people like this day to day but claim people in the past aren't black 🤦🏾
Is that person crazy??? The Sicilian dialect has Arabic words in it. History has shown Moorish Islamic conquer of Sicily??? My grandmother had cousins who were dark plus has that individual ever visited Italy? You can find darker hue in Naples which isn't close to Sicily.
what nonsense, you must be confusing the Sicilian language with the Maltese language. The word sugar also comes from Arabic. But some examples of arabic words in the englisch language. Alcohol , Algebra, Average, Bled,Check, Coffee, Cotton, Candy, Gerbil, Gazelle, Giraffe, Guitar, Harem, Henna, Hazard, Jar, Jasmine, Lemon, Lime, Mascara, Mask, Mattress, Orange, Safari, Satin, Sherbet, Sorbet, Shrub, Soda, Sofa, Spinach, Syrup, Tell, Zero. By the way, 30% of the words in English are of Romance-French origin, are the British now 1/3 of French and Roman heritage?
Yes Sicilian has 300 arab words, that's nothing. The majority of them were introduced by commerce with muslim countries and are equally present in French and in other Italian dialects different from the sicilian one. Another part of arab words were introduced by spaniards (Spanish has more than 1000 arab words. Another part was introduced by French invaders (occitan is full of arab words, via catalan). The sole part that comes directely from the Moors is the part concerning agricolture and fishing. Not a single word concerns intimate life
Jackson is not an Italian surname and even your first name ist unsual for italians, italian descent or even just quarter or half italians. What is dark for you? Dark as the night? Or what is your definition of dark? For the Swedes, the Norwegians are dark. For the finns the swedes are darker, for the Norwegians, Finns are white as milk. It always depends on where you live and where you grew up..
@@AntosiculoEolo Per loro 6% è tantissimo. Lascia perdere. Dimostrando che tu sei nero vogliono risolvere un loro problema. Il problema è loro. Dovrebbero risolverselo da soli, lasciando perdere la gente che non conoscono e che credono solamente di conoscere.
Italians are similar to the Spanish, with many regions that for 100's of years were either isolated or part of a larger empire that attracted or had large movement of people and goods. So it shouldnt come as a surprise the genetic and cultural exchanges between southern Italy and northern Africa. I feel like this person is being a bit ethnocentric. "Like"
That makes sense. However in Spain the isolation was thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years .. probably going back to Neanthadal days in regions like Basquesland
Kinda but the difference is Spain has been a united country for 500 plus years and there are less differences between Northern and Southern Spaniards compared to Italians.
Genetics are a crazy thing! My father is living proof. His grandfather came through Ellis Island via Sicily and I was able to find censuses and other documents that list him as having dark skin, dark eyes and a height of 4'11". So his daughter (my grandma) marries a Finnish immigrant and her 1st born is my father who stands 6'4" tall, fair skin and green eyes. Go figure! ✌️❤️🙏
Being from Sicily doesn't mean at all that your father had necessary a dark complexion. Plus there are many 100% genetically Sweden, Danish, German, Franch, English and so on with a dark complexion. I haven't watched this video because it is clearly a clickbait like all of her other videos about Italy and Italians which are a bunch of crap. Italians, *just like any other European country* has people with a fair completion and people with a more darker one in it but in general the society is white. The woman in the video is nothing but a fully ignorant person who says ridiculous things on the internet trying to create traffic on her channel, don't fall for it.
Regional group differences exist because of relative isolation and the obvious tendency to mate with people who are close by, not far away. Thus, you have different regional histories of mutation, random drift, natural selection, and gene flow. There are different degrees of gene flow and overlap between populations depending on the degree of proximity, geographic barriers, and various historical events. For example, the English are partly French, who are partly Italian, who are partly Greek, who are partly Turkish, who are partly Arabian, who are partly Egyptian, who are partly Sudanese. With increasing distance, the gene flow is increasingly diffuse and diluted. Analogy: we have named the world's oceans, but they're really just regional parts of one big interconnected ocean.
@@jonathanborchardt891 Lets just say one parent is 1/3 European,African and Native American and the other is as well, maybe not the exact amount but similar, what do you think their children look like? Do you understand the concept?
@@clbailey9586 this is the problem with %. It's not odd numbered. Half , quarter , eight , sixteen , 32nd and on down. Percentage is dumb and odd fractions is even worse.
I recently found your channel and I was wondering if you have heard about Johnny Cash’s first wife. She wrote a book before she died and there’s a documentary about her called My Darling Vivian. It’s here on UA-cam now. Once it was suspected that she was not simply Italian Johnny Cash basically abandoned her and their children. The story was very heart breaking. I don’t recall the family ever admitting to having black blood but they reasoned that some Italians were dark. Google says she had a black great great grandmother. Johnny Cash obviously wanted to keep his career and he gave in to all the threats and criticism. He found the whitest woman he could to marry up with next. Just thought you might check out the documentary. Great videos btw.
@@danieldigiuseppe7912 it's still up for debate whether it's a renaissance work or not unfortunately. There's a legit coin though with his head on one side and an elephant on the other side. Check it out
Hannibal (2nd Punic War) did not achieve much in Italy, he won all battles (in Italy) but lost the war. The decisive battle took place in Zama city in North Africa between Hannibal and Scipio. What the Romans then did to Carthage after the Third Punic War should be known to everyone, there was nothing left. Hannibal hoped for Italian support from the Celts and other Italic populations, but they refused and were against Hannibal. Furthermore, the North Africans of that time are not the North Africans of today. There were no Arab influences yet. And when we talk about sub-Saharan Africa, this was rather rare in the Roman Empire, with the exception of southern Egypt with the Nubians, who were rather confederates of the Romans and not part of Rome. As for the Arabs in Sicily, they left behind more culturally than genetically, because many were simply expelled after the Normans left Sicily. (They were rather liberal towards the Arabs, but not the successors). As far as Sicily is concerned, the proportion of R1B, R1a and I1 (i.e. Norman genes, is higher than Phoenician genes) and Sub-Saharan E-M2 hardly occurs in Sicily an the Rest of Europe. Southern Italy is predominantly 90% Romano-Greek-Anatolian, especially eastern Sicily, Calabria, Lucania, parts of Campania and southern Apulia (Salento). Anyone who claims otherwise simply has no idea. The Italian population is predominantly European, either Indo-European, Neolithic (Sardinia) or Appenine (Haplogroup G), do you know Ötzi? or J2 (settlers from Anatolia).
I read a few articles about Southern Italy, the Southern Italians live in warm climates with sunny summers, and at least some Southern Italians have admixture with Ethiopians and Middle Easterners. It's obvious that many Southern Italians will have varying tanned skin tones due to the regional warm climate with sunny summers, later Roman era admixture with others contributed to increased tanning. They may not be White based on skin tone, they are their own ethnic group, but they are still European! Everyone's skin tone, body type and phenotype is dictated by their climate!!!
Danielle, you are so interesting and well spoken. I am working on my husband’s genealogy and his father is Sicilian (Arigento region)on both sides and mother Neapolitan. He is so dark and many times is thought of as Arab. He has 7 siblings and only 2 were dark the others were more European looking. Just surface knowledge I have of genealogy but am going forward. Thank you for your work it helps and supports us all. Btw his grandfather came thru New Orlean and eventually went to Pueblo Colorado, then on to central Ca. To farm citrus.
My bestfriend since I was 3 years old ( were gonna be 39 this year) so that is 36 years of my life I've known her and her family 100% Sicilian and proud name very well known by the way anyway . Her family can trace their heritage all the way back, generations and my Nona ( she's my Nona too because she use to beat me like her grandchildren and love me just as much) Anyway this Blonde haired blue eyed fair skinned woman would be the first to tell you the true history of Sicily. She wouldve been the first to say this person wasn't born in Sicily so he dont know. Sicilians come from North Africa the children of Cartheage. She would say her ancestors came from Carthage true Sicilians know they are Black in ancestry. Because in her own words Africa was Black all black back then different kinds but all black . It's the mainland Italians, especially the north, who is mixed with French German, slav Norse, etc. She would say, "Look at the map Italy is kicking Sicily back to Africa, where we once was a part of .
My Sicilian family is diverse in appearance. Some have blue eyes, some hazel and some brown. Some with pale light skin and light hair to darker skin and hair colours. I can pass as Middle Eastern yet my uncle was blonde with blue eyes and was mistaken to be German. Most in my family do seem to have the ability to tan well in the sun which is a fortunate thing. I feel an affinity to all Mediterranean cultures.
The ancient world wasn't made up of ethnostates, let alone ethnostates based upon the ethnic groups that we commonly classify today. And people around the Mediterranean in particular traveled, traded, fought, and reproduced with each other for all of recorded history (and even before recorded history). There's also no such thing as "genetically Caucasoid." There aren't separate and distinct races of our species, from a genetic perspective. There hasn't been enough genetic isolation to produce separate and distinct races of our species, from a genetic perspective. Race is merely a social construct that was just made up a few centuries ago.
Phenotype differences are real. This is a video about phenotypes due to admixture between Africa and Europe. It's real be it Southern Europe, Brazil, the Caribbean, and even the US. There is only 1 human race but their phenotype differences among regions of people with other people being mixed between or among regions being misidentified for other ethnicities or nationalities.
@@kemetnubiakamp - Yeah, there are very loose phenotypes and differences between those very loose phenotypes. But that doesn't have much scientific validity, let alone scientific significance.
@loki2240 They are not lose. You know when someone is Black or white. No one has accidentally mistaken a Nigerian for a Swede or either for a Korean. But they do mistake mixed people for other mixed people. Because the very definition of a Mediterranean is a mixed person that's why there's no standard DNA for an Arab and the reason regionally even in Italy there are differences genetically because people linked by languages in the same country still might not have the same history of populations. Also mixed people may be mistaken for ethnic groups of countries or regions not considered mixed between Black and white such as Polynesians who aren't a mix of Europeans and Africans but can look that way. But when it comes to Northern Africa and Southern Europe, the Mediterranean phenotype is mostly Europe and Africa with Asian admixture as well. It's not a mystery.
Yes, there are living people who still recall the Suez Canal being built. So they did lots of walking and there was Seafaring by the early Bronze Age if not earlier.@@purplespeckledappleeater8738
The defensiveness about people feeling they are "accused" of being "black" is extraordinary. When it was revealed that "Ötzi the iceman" had skin darker than southern Europeans today, there was outrage.
Italians are Mediterranean people. The Italian peninsula is a historic crossroads. People from all over the Mediterranean basin settled in Italy. Northern Europeans settled there as well. This is historic fact that it not up for debate. My parents are Italian, from Naples. I grew up in the US in an immigrant family. Most of us are dark, and not only in the summer. Some are lighter skinned. I have cousins with red hair, but they are outliers. I have travelled all over the world. And generally, people think I am from the Middle East or South America, whatever that means; evidently it means something to someone. South Asians think my sister is Indian. One of my cousins even had anti-Pakistani slurs hurled at her in England. Race is in the eye of the beholder. And most of the race pseudo-science that was going on in the US in the early 20th century was not purely the product of American beliefs. It was heavily informed by the work of Italian race science. Anyway, I'm not sure what you bothered posting a video response to a faceless person with an axe to grind. I feel sorry for people who harbor such deeply racist views of the world that they are in denial about their own stories.
Speak for your terone part not for whole Italy. Italian science didn't inform anybody, Muricans are so insecure that they need to categorize everybody a thing that in Europe doesn't happen .
Greeks are the same in regards to the seasons. I can put on a nice tan by august (with effort) but a lot of us Greeks have this very milky white skin (almost vampire white) in the middle if winter. Needless to say, I look much healthier after summer rolls around lol.
Thanks for the laugh. That guy was crazy. My dad and his friend who is also Mediterranean are both very dark-skinned people. My dad owns a construction company and many times they don't wear shirts. One day when I approached someone who I thought was my dad from behind it was one of the bricklayers who was Black-American. They were the same complexion but his employees thought the mistake was so funny mistaking a Black guy for a White guy.
Please read Giuseppe Sergi’s book The Mediterranean Race: A Study of the Origin of European Peoples. 1900 Anthropologists who explains that Italians were always dark because they are Euro-African who migrated from the Northern Africa.
Italian here, you have never been in Italy isn't it? Skin colours varies deeply from Place to Place and you can find natives Sicilians with blonde and blue eyes, romans were mostly white skinned with blue eyes like Totti or De Rossi. "Italians were always dark" is a lie, although there are some dark Italian ( not many to be honest)
It's amasing how people that have never been in Italia know that we are dark skinned I am from near NAPLES and have green eyes blond hair( when I had hair) my dna is all european no african,and to say that some have Ethiopian dna it's new to me@@francisdrake7060
Sergi's theories are outdated because his book was published before the advancement of the field of Indo-European studies. The Mediterranean come to be dominated by Italic speaking tribes, like the Oscans, Latins, Faliscans, Sabines, Volsci, Umbrians, Ligurians, Insubrians etc. All of them were Indo-European speakers, none of them were “black” or very dark I'm sure of that.
Aahah You rely on books of 1900?? 🤡🤡🤡🤡 Also he never meant that Italians were Africans in case IberoMaurasian that is like Berbers in short, but it is outdated trash. We wuz kangs!!!
Interesting seeing that my great-grandfather who was born in Sicily was listed as brown when he came over here. Also I did a DNA test just because of my Sicilian side turns out I have Arab in me and Greek . I was expecting just Sicilian . Apparently the Sicilian side of the family doesn't talk about stuff like that. When you're Sicilian they consider you 100%. Cicely is pretty much the Melting Pot of the Mediterranean. It's been ruled and taken over by so many different people's how could you not have a mixture
Tell this guy I’m a Hispanic American and I know Italians in Brooklyn N.Y.. that are darker than me and I’m olive 🫒 skin. He better stop with the lies!
What does darker skin have to do with race? There are white people with olive skin like the actor Joey Lawrence who still looks like a white boy despite being tanned or darker. Joey Lawrence looks like a handful of Italians I met.
@@asturiasceltic3183Joey Lawerence is pale and doesn’t have dark features, he can just afford to sit around a pool a lot. Southern Italians and Sicilians tend to have very dark hair and are naturally darker than our northern counterparts. That’s precisely why we weren’t considered “whíte”, up till very recently. Add to that our Latin names, that are much more like Spainish names, than English names and that added to the “not whíte” confirmation. Names like Salvatore=Salvador, Antonio (both in Italian and Spanish the same name, or have about Lorenzo, Maria, Rosa, Lucia, Luca, Eduardo, Enrique, Mario, Armando…
@@asturiasceltic3183 I’m not making it an issue you are!!!! My father is a white Hispanic and I’m a dark Hispanic that has the same color as a Native American but, look Latino and my son looks white in the winter.!!!
@@orlandovelastegui1391 Nobody cares about your color nor what you are.. You are making this about yourself as if your as so interesting when you are not
@@asturiasceltic3183 No worries, you are welcome to your perspective. Search for pics of him and you’ll see pics where he is very pale, the other pics look like he is in the sun a lot.
Southitalians are a mix of Greece, Arab, Vikings. In Sicily there are many blonde hair, white skin and blue eyes, like, for exemple, Bingiovi. In north Italy there is a big influence about Germany and French people.
Italy,is a word,Italian is a product of that word,a derivative. The land mass however is not a word,and was occupied before the “Caucasoid” traveled to dwell there. This is likely even before the invasion of the moors,which is where the mixed heritage of Italians is often and largely focused upon . Africa had kingdoms and boats,before Italy was a thing,please remember it was once called Rome,not Italy,and even as Rome,what I’m referring to still likely predates it. As I’ve said,I’m an African,Sicilian,Irish,German,and English mix. So,this is like the second or more time my bloodline has done what I am now.
The invasion of the Moors is an invention. Muslims (white Muslims of Tunisia) invaded Sicily, that is one of 20 regions of Italy. Never invaded the continent. They made only raids on the coasts, in order to took slaves.
We wuz kangs!!! Africans had boats and kingdoms and then forgotten how to do that for millennias!! LOL Also when did Africa was called Africa instead?? LOL It was Romans who gave the name to Africa. Moors only conquered Sicily and got kicked out by Normans . You need to check some history book dude, Moors didn't mix nobody.
@@alessandrom7181 who said anything about being kings? Everything you’ve said is self evident,and really wouldn’t need to be said. And if you think the invasion didn’t succeed through acceptable and unacceptable procreation,you’re mistaken again.(procreation being the the ultimate Conquering force that withstands time past wars.) Lastly,you just said they conquered sicily,is sicily,nobody? Side note: You either believe civilization began in Africa and or Mesopotamia,or you don’t. Its a point of reference issue. Technically,by last name, research would tell you i’m a decedent of woden,(literally)not African kings..(thats being implied by you knowing about African history,not me..)
@@JustRyanFromNola Can't you even read what you wrote? You wrote "kingdoms" like i did , not me. No, the invasion didn't succed in nothing, Sicilians as by genetic studies suggest are not Moors ( who were not blaxs) let alone Blaxs, they are Italic and Greek and every Levantine or North African ( who had nothing to do with Subsaharans) stuff is pre-roman CAUCASOID. Sicily is an isle off the coast of Italy so Italy is not only Sicily and Italy was not conquered by Moors then again. Sorry. I don''t believe at all that civilization began in Africa, let alone by blaxs, infact it was a joke. It started in Mesopotamia by Caucasoids and continued with Egyptian Caucasoids , then Hellenes and Romans\Italics and again Italians with Renaissance. On a side note, it took 100 years to Moors to conquer Sicily and the "invasion" lasted just 75 years only. Oh and Italy was always Caucasoid you want it or not despite what Netflix says to you . There are genetic tests, there is archeology, there is anthropology too and with those scientific studies we know that Blaxs are not involved in any major civilizations ( save as i said in netflix) . You Afrocentrits wewuzzers are a funny bunch, really.
@@alessandrom7181 Look,ask Siri what a Caucasian is.. I’ll wait.. Then,go research it for yourself,just be sure.. I’ll wait some more.. And when it sets in,I’ll wait even longer. Because,you won’t be back for years if you do what I just said..
Love your channel! Yes that comment made do a "what?!" double take! My grandparents, both Italian, are so "tan" or dark in a pic I have of them it's funny hearing what he said about southern europeans or Italians...crazy denial some people have!
These kinds of topics generally upset people with a racialist mindset because it blurs the lines they work so strongly to uphold. Also, blog posts are basically opinion pieces and are not scientific genetic studies. 😄 There are plenty of studies out there related to pigmentation and SNP phenotype analysis. Keep up the good work.
They discovered that the vikings at the height of the viking migration were mostly not blond and blue-eyed. That look came later with other groups moving in. ❤
Al Capone wasn’t from Sicily, his parents were from Naples. Sicilians are naturally darker as a whole, even when not “tan”. Also, Latin Americans play Sicilians all the time and vice versa, so what does that tell us? We are mixed, we as in Sicilians that is and southern Italians have a separate lineage than northern Italians anyway.
We have to look back in history to be able to distinguish our roots. People have migrated left and right and there were also alot of indigenous tribes close to the arctic circle. Then we have the definition of white, its all about perspective. A whiter person might call me brown or dark while a darker or black person calls me white.
I think the Scandinavians have the whitest untanned skin around... but I'm not going to argue over it... since my unexposed skin color is that of heavy english cream straight out of the cow.
No, the Irish have the lightest complexion on Earth. Where have you been? I have been to Ireland, and other nations. Ireland wins lightest complexion hands down. If that's you in the pic, you are pretty dark in terms of how fair the lightest Irish are. Just saying.
In Italy, people from all regions vary in skin tone, from the very north to the extreme south. Generally, Italians in Sicily are not dark. We find darker skin in Tuscany, Veneto, for example. In sun-drenched regions, yes people are darker but come winter, one’s real skin tone is revealing. In our time, many, many Italians from southern regions have migrated to the north and so Italy has been changing for nearly 70 years on this respect - yet the Norman influence in the south, Sicily is very strong, also Greek, Roman. These seem most prominent. Greeks also generally are not dark. My own family (mother’s side) is full Italian from Sicily, in Sicily - and everyone is pale, dark hair, dark eyes. We also see many blondes, and even red hair in the south - Calabria, Sicilia. These physical features are not always indicative of particular groups. Over thousands of years, the peninsula and islands have seen layers of people settle. The north of Italy is very mixed, in terms of groups, tribes, dialects - Goths, Visigoths, Austrian, the (very mixed) Romans, Longobards, and more. Italy and Italian identity has always been this way. Sardegna is distinct in many ways, and areas such as Friuli are also quite different.
Darker skin in Tuscany and Veneto than Sicily?? LMAO.. get a grip dude, most of Sicilian university students in Tuscany and Veneto stick out like sore thumbs from the locals, not only for skin tone but even for features. Also if you find weird looking people in Tuscany and veneto chances are that they are partly south Italians as well. Also Sardinians are quite dark.
Sorry but it seems as you never had been in italy. We are mixed and different in culture, language....and even in body colours. I'm from milan and red hair. I've found my sosia/alias on a boat in scottish lake of lockness. It's common to find very light skin in northern italy. But even in sicily or puglia you can find people with blonde hair or frikles thanks to nornan heritage as people you can find in algeria or jordan
@@matthewmann8969 Not even remotely LOL , quit with this BS amerimutt... Germanic dna in Italy is nil, let alone Slavic and Nordic. I don't even know what do you mean with "Baltics and Western Caucasus" the latter are aslo strongly Mtebid . Also how should Baltics and Caucasians have left a trace when they have never been in Italy? LOL Unfortunately for you there is science and genetic that can cut your bs. Italians are for the most like their iron age ancestors so the fair one as well as those darker are Italic descendants in the North and part Roman part Greeks in the south.
In the 70s I had an Afro Cuban friend. In the Hispanic community he was called a trigeño. The color of wheat. He used to tell us about being mistaken for Sicilian when walking through little Italy in NYC. He fell in love with Italian culture. Learned the language, not hard given his spanish. He married Sicilian. His wife was ablut his complexion, but with bluest eyes I had seen up to that point. Striking eye color from a person that dark.
I think he's lying to you that people thought he was was Sicilian like Al Pacino. A lot of darker people decades ago would say they were Italian just to be accepted
@@asturiasceltic3183 possible but unlikely that he would lie about that. You may never have seen a trigeño. For example the young lady who hosts this channel could easily be considered trigeña in Puerto Rico and Cuba. In the Dominican republic she would be called India. None of those terms would be considered a pejorative.
This dude doesn't know about language study. The Norse called Africans blue. Do we people in 2024 do we think they mean blue like us. We have to look at references to other objects.
@@coreylevine8095 exactly they didn't have a word for black. You would only know that by doing language study and comparing their use in other contexts.
However, the person who wrote to you might have been somebody who had misunderstood some info: the oldest wave of immigration into Europe, from Anatolia, was quite pale. Dark eyes and hair but ery pale skin. They have apparently endured to some extent in Sardinia which has always been quite isolated. Neither the Arabs nor the Scandinavians who extended their tender mercies to most of the Northern Mediterranean including The Maghreb and Sicily and Istanbul got much of a foothold. So, this person might have mixed up Sardinia, which is part of Italy, and Italy as a whole.
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Al Capone wasn’t from Sicily, his parents were from Naples. Sicilians are naturally darker as a whole, even when not “tan”.
Also, Latin Americans play Sicilians all the time and vice versa, so what does that tell us? We are mixed, we as in Sicilians that is and southern Italians have a separate lineage than northern Italians anyway.
I’ve posted this before on other videos but it’s even more relevant here.
Here are some exerts from the study, “Genomic history of the Italian population recapitulates key evolutionary dynamics of both Continental and Southern Europeans.”:
“ the well-established cultural and genetic diversity of the Italian population, some of the most outstanding among those observable across the entire European continent”
- So the study sets out to find out why there are observable and outstanding differences between northern and southern Italians.
“To date, remarkable efforts have elucidated important aspects of the demography of the ancestors of modern Italians, which have contributed to their heterogeneous genetic background”.
- Heterogenous means unalike or distinct from one another backgrounds. The researchers noted two different lineages going back to separate places. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to ancient European cultures. On the other hand, southern Italians were found to have a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa.
“Italian samples turned out to be located on two considerably divergent branches“
- This is the result, we come from two different branches of the evolutionary tree. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in Northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to other ancient Northern European cultures. On the other hand, Southern Italians were found to have a different origin that was a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa.
That along with the fact that our geographic differences also contributed to additional evolutionary genetic differences between the two. 'In the subjects from northern Italy, we observed changes in the gene networks regulating insulin and body-heat production as well as in those responsible for fat tissue metabolism.' When it came to southern Italian peculiarities, the researchers found the genes that modify the production of melanin, which is the pigment that provides skin color that resulted in darker skin and hair. These are just a couple examples of many in differences between the north and south; in differences between two already different branches of the evolutionary tree.
Yes, mixing has also occurred and contributed to changes in the population. However, the two Italian populations are in fact different and distinct from each other.
@@GhostSal Bullshit, by the way the highest percentage of germanic Haplogroup in Italy is southeast of Rome 15-20 %. The Lombards were in the south the longest. ruled in the south until 1105. As I said, if you have no idea, it's best not to write anything. After that there were Spaniards and French in the south, but in the 15th century Balkan people (Croatians, Albanians) migrated (they fled from the turks). There are Franco-Provençal dialects in Sicily and Apulia, there are Croatian language pockets in Molise, there are Greek language pockets in Calabria and southern Apulia. Italy is full of minorities from north to south. Catalans in Sardinia, Slovenes in Friuli, Alemanni in Piedmont, Walser in the Aosta Valley etc. etc. But nor arabs or sub-saharan monorities. They have only immigrated to Italy in the last 30 years.
@@franz9573 The Lombards ruled for a time but left very very little DNA, there’s a big difference between ruling and leaving DNA influence. So next time before you say something about not talking about things you don’t know, you should take your own advice my friend. They never ruled over Sicily either.
Also, I never said there wasn’t Greek influence and am well aware Greek is spoken in parts of Italy. I’m also well aware we (southern Italians) have genetic lineage with the Greeks. As for the study I cited it was the most comprehensive study ever done and included over 20 universities led by Oxford. So you claiming it’s BS, is absurd, believe as you wish but what I stated is true.
Next time try to consider that you don’t know everything and don’t come at me like you do. I’m sure you as well have valuable knowledge I’d likely find interesting but considering the way you came at me I’m less interested in hearing what you have to say.
@@GhostSal I did not write that the Lombards ruled over Sicily. They ruled southeast of Rome until 1105 and founded cities. I saw your video about Columbus, I'd rather not say anything about it, what a load of crap. Anyway, you really have a problem with who's whiter and who's darker. This is a typical American problem but you better take care of your own history and don't interfere in our history because you have no idea, ours is almost 3000 years old, if you can't deal with your past and your racism is not our problem. Your problem is telling untruths about our culture and our history. In terms of general knowledge, you guys in the US are pretty bad and this worldwide, especially when it comes to history and geography outside the USA. And you're not italian or of italian descent. You better write about your own ancestry or are you ashamed of it? Mr. Jackson
The *fear* of being partially associated with "Black" or "African" is very, very powerful.
this is it. and why? part of it is the legal standing, which I would love to do more work on (Bacon's Rebellion for one).
Very much so.
Because the black African part isn't true. People think it's a hatred of negroid people's. That isn't it. It's historical inaccuracy and also meant as an insult.
It is very very terrifying. It is a primal instinct that triggers disgust.
Yeah a lot to do with it is with people claiming things back. Can you imagine around the world *cough*Egypt*cough* if certain ethnic origins were known? There would be uproar and a lot of people worried about losing ownship of things
The person who wrote that email has never seen a Finnish person 😂😂😂
Hahha
@@TheOtherMwalimu Finns are persons and each person is different. I knew personally Finns with dark hairs (darker than mines). The majority are blond.
Curiously enough, Finn's were not classified as white in the USA till after the mid 1920s. There has been a video about it on this channel. In a way, Finn's were too white to be white! They looked different to someone from France or England.
It just goes to show that the classification of white and black is very arbitrary and fickle. Just a way of othering, "us and them" and shaped entirely by the history of the US being a two tier society, split along racial lines.
Or some Japanese and Korean people! They can be really light-skinned; the Japanese man in the example that Danielle used in the video is just one example.
@@TheOtherMwalimu ghosts, I was in Denmark and I could bearly see them. I like my tan in the Summer ;)
I'm from southern Italy, Sardinia, i can assure you my dad is often mistaken for being north african or indian. The same can be said
about many other sardinians. Of course there are also lighter people in the south, my mom for
example has fair skin and green eyes and people often ask her if she's foreign but she is as sardinian as my dad. You should make a video on Sardinia's genetic and history! It's very unique and often not talked about enough.
I would love to learn that! I have sardinian DNA (whatever that means) and want to visit so badly. It looks absolutely perfect over there.
@@nytn 💖
Sardinians, genetically speaking, are not Italians.
Southern Europeans of all nationalities, especially Iberians are going to be more dark skinned because they are geographically closer to the equator
@@gloriathomas3245 Yes, Spaniards usually touch the equator every morning, when they get up ahahaha. You must go to Spain, is beautiful (as well as equatorial). Consult a map .-)
I've met too many Sicilian Americans with dark hair, dark eyes and tanned skin. This person is trying to deny the truth.
It's not just Sicilians it's all Italians. Even the French are dark compared to Germans and Brits.
Most of Brooklyn & SI.
@@magnuscorbin5040 mainly southern French..
Yeah, but did you measure how much light reflected off of their booty in the wintertime? 😂
Knowing the history is crucial in order to understand how people look respectively their ethnic background.
This is a marvelous history channel. You are enlightening so many of us.
I cannot tell you how much fun it is to bring this all out in the open and talk about it. My grandparents would kill me 😂
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History channel?? LMAO..it is sh@t to make views and to boost SSAfricans ego. There isn't a single scientific study in this channel, just outdated theories. That blog is far more scientific than whatever this liar says in her channel.
The whole time I was in college and grad school, literally every Middle Eastern dude I met insisted I was either Egyptian or Sudanese and shouldn't be showing my legs or my hair. (Occasionally Moroccan would get tossed in there.) My oldest brother lived in Saudi Arabia for a couple years and when he walked into shops and spoke English, he'd get told off: "Stop showing off, Masri -- speak Arabic!"
We can't win for losing. We insist that we are people of color, and we get told You're White And You Can't Possibly Understand, and when we say we're white, we get told we're racist for not wanting to admit what we have in common with people of color. Jesus Christ on a crosstrainer. When you're in between the twin cliffs of race and color, you get used as the rope in other people's tugs of war a lot.
That's basically similar to my experience (aka what I call the olive skin Italian descendant experience). To be fair we probably do have part Middle Eastern and/or North African ancestry as part of our Italian background in addition to native Italian/Italic.
This is cause you are american and you prlly intermix with Olive skin rest of europe… Italy is white so white that is pale ahahaha studying history and how invasion all over europe happened outside Italy woulve helped
I've travelled through Italy, which I love and the people skin color varies greatly through regional areas. You can find various shades of Africans too and not just all due to the Slave trade either! I think people like the gentleman who wrote the letter should move pass the superficial things and embrace our common humanity. Great lecture/lesson as always!
Yeah, even many "black" Americans don't know that indigenous Africans vary a lot in appearance. Indigenous Africans are actually the most genetically diverse population of our species because they've had the most generations.
Whether humanity is common is another matter. The problem is that Africa is a continent and Italy is a small country less than 1200 kilometers long
Italians did not have Sub-Saharan people as slaves. Vast majority of slaves were other European s.
@@rifleman4005 In fact, it would not have made economic sense for the Romans to set up a large-scale trade from Africa while there was a need for slaves in Africa. It also didn't make sense to bring people accustomed to the heat to cold places. Winter in Italy can be unpleasant. Furthermore, African slaves did not confer prestige on the master. We also have many testimonies that, according to the Romans, who were superstitious, black people were bad luck.
Rights it’s the region of the world where the oldest civilizations start all over the Mediterranean a place where three continents come together almost all of which boats lol
Al Capone is Napolitano not Sicilian. My dad is Sicilian and Irish mix but everyone thinks he's Mexican and looks Mexican or Puerto Rican. He got DNA test and he's not Latino at all😂😂😂
Al Capone also lived in Chicago which is a Northern State that's cloudy and rainy most of the time. And he also was a cokehead. So ofc he's gonna look bad
this is hilarious to me~ My dad gets asked if he is hispanic, nope, just Napolitano and Campanese. (as far as I know)
Uh oh, where'd all that melanin come from? Hmm..
You are incorrect. Sicilian and southern Italians even now are brown skinned. It's simple science 10 scan helps you survive and dark Sun. White skin only comes from the nordics.
I don't see the problem with having tan skin it's only logical even the Romans mentioned it. Even the Romans knew that they weren't the fairest or the blackest. In fact the rolling star being perfectly tan with Superior
Yesterday, someone anonymously asked a question in a Facebook group if all Southern Italians, get assigned a percentage of African ethnicity. The question floored me. First, by asking a question that includes "all" or "none," the mathematical odds are against it being provable. Plus, the ethnicity estimates are based on comparing an individual's DNA segments against the DNA of the people in a reference population. The DNA companies do not use the person's self-assessment of their ethnicity for the comparison of DNA segments.
Thanks for this video.
It's very interesting.
That is such an interesting question, wow. I think it goes to show how much many of us still need to learn, because we have been given bad info!
There are people who have tried to send identical samples with different surnames obtaining different ethnicities. That's all to say.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Even siblings with the same surname get different ethnicities.
If the same person sent in two samples with the same surname, they would get different ethnicities.
The ethnicity estimates, by definition, cannot be precise. They are reported (on AncestryDNA) in a range of percentage. If you click on the percent, you'll see the range. On 23andMe, you can change the confidence level and see the ethnicity estimates change.
DNA studies have been done on this. Estimates of the percentage of black African ancestry in southern Italians range from less than 1% to 2.7%.
State your source. Can you be more specific? @@giorgiodifrancesco4590
The look on your face when he said even when they're tanned they're lighter than everyone else! PRICELESS!😂
I had to edit out the rest of what I said 😅
@@nytn🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nytn😂😂😂 to funny.
@@nytn This ain't nothing. If you want to see real drama, make a video about the race of the Ancient Egyptians! You'll be bombarded by Neo Nazis, Afro Nazis and my personal fave Coptic Nazis. Everyone will hate you. But I recommend you start small and do a video about whether or not Dominicans or Somalis are black. Fun times, girl, fun times!
Yeah he said Europeans, including southern Europeans, have the lightest untanned skin in the world. Who do you think has lighter skin than Europeans?
People need to stop equating lack of melanin as better.
Would you tell a Senegalese that he is white, but that he sees himself as black and is wrong?
You are telling Europeans that they are black.
You have to travel. Don't make it like suitcases, though, because it's useless.
It's not about who is better or what color is better (Italians don't care about color and much less about shade), but about reality.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 people Traveled! That says it all!
@@lesal.1373 People traveled like baggages.
It's a part of human psychology to rank people based on traits, physical characteristics. Kin groups recognise each other by facial familiarity and see those as outsiders who don't share those traits.
@@Sdfghjtgy1 Look, our psychology is very different: we distinguish people by considering differently those who lived in huts 1500 years ago (and did the same much later) and those who speculated by building condominiums with underfloor heating. Let's leave the game of dividing people by color to you.
My son is part Sicilian. But, according to his DNA results, he has no Italian DNA. He has Tunisian, Greek, Spanish, Balkans heritage, and more, but mostly British from my side of the family. Also, my son, when younger and outside a lot, was light skinned in the winter months and pretty darkly tanned in the warmer months. He looks like what I’ve heard called the “classic” Italian. My daughter-in-law told me one time that she could tell he’s Italian and that he has the Italian nose.
That sounds pretty Sicilian to me! My "Italian" roots had a ton of Aegean Islans (Greek) North African/Iran/Egupt and Balkan! :)
@@nytn … Yeah, that’s what I thought. Also, an Italian friend once told me the Italians don’t consider Sicilians to be Italian. Have you heard that said?
I definitely have, and also the other way around. I think at this point, it's hard to make the divisions make sense as Italian Americans, but I am bringing on a professor from Italy who did a lot of work on that. apparently, upon arrival, there was not a feeling of being "Italian" but it was very much community oriented identity.
@@nytn … Interesting.
My dad is Irish on both sides & had what was called a Roman nose
I would like to take this moment to compliment you on your work. I have been watching your podcast since you started. You are doing a great job at revealing some hidden secrets in the American Complex.
Phenotype is often unrelated to ethnicity.
My mother was of mostly German and English background. She had black hair and blue eyes and got very tan in the summer.
My dad was mostly of Irish and English background. He had black hair and interesting eyes, brown in the center with gold flecks and a blue ring around the edge. He had pasty white skin.
I got the pasty white skin. When I was in college someone in my car pool asked me if my mother was Native American because of her looks. They didn't think I was Native American, but they thought my mother was. Go figure.
In my family it is the same! I think Europeans with Light eyes and hair tan better than dark haired and eyed ones.
@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 My sister was Italian with very bright eyes and very bright skin. She didn't tan never.
Americans don’t really know what pure Native American Indians look like because of how few they are. So they’re mostly used to part White Indians.
Frankly you’re average Mexican is more indigenous than most North American Indians
My Algerian friends ( North Africans ) They are lighter than my southern Italian friends. South Italians share lots of social culture with Africans, family orientated more outdoors and socially engaging. It's nothing to be ashamed of it's a strength.
No, no we do not share anything with Muslims. Italians will never be Muslim. The immigration issue will be solved soon. We are tired of peopple coming from Muslim countries and not respecting Italian culture.
I'm half italian. I took a DNA test and was matched to many other Italians I'm related to. None of us had sub saharan african DNA. Most had 1-2% MENA , middle east/north african DNA.
BS..you and other people here are deluded..LOL
@@alessandrom7181 Who is deluded?
What a load of nonsense. Italians are white North Africans are dark.
Danielle, the only objective and empirical way to address the issue of “mixed” is to look at the genomic data and paternal and maternal haplogroups of the Italian peninsula. The Italian genome (like all of Europe) is composed of mainly: Western Hunter Gatherer, Anatolian Neolithic Farmer, and Eurasian Steppe ancestry.
It’s geographic position also contributed to admixture of Levantine/West Asian, North African (Iberomaurusian/Carthaginian) that is not generally present in Europe outside of the Mediterranean Basin. These admixtures happened in prehistory and antiquity and were regional events.
In short, everyone everywhere is “mixed” and we have far too much data on the human genome available for people to have such basic misunderstandings of the history of human migration. Some of the details are up for debate and interpretation, but the big picture is pretty well settled by the evidence.
I thought only with food recipes, we use the term mix. We use that term with pets and farm animals calling them mixed breeds. Perhaps, we should use the word hybrid? It is equally disingenuous. I thought the video on UA-cam was very informative about human skin color by Professor Nina Jablonski.
Everyone is mixed, but a mix of 2000 years ago or more why should be important? The American way of thinking is disconcerting. In Italy we take culture into account, not skin color. Here there are also Italians with grandmothers or great-grandmothers from Asmara, but they are Italians if they are of italian culture. Imagine someone whose ancestor in 900 AD was raped by a Berber in Sicily.
Nothing like what is happening in the present day and populations were pretty stable for a long time. It is why they can do dna tests and give you a pretty good idea of what you are. This is especially so with some smaller populations as some countries like Italy for example are too diverse to have one reference. North Italy is different than South Italy genetically for example.
These kind of people would deny the admixture even if it killed them.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590As a black American we have been trying to get the rest of the world see how we have been treated throughout our history here. They deny us our right to be American, even though most of our ancestors were here before most if not all of their's came here.
I don’t think the person who wrote that comment has seen an Italian 😂
I am very concerned for what they consider "good" pizza, as well 😂
Yes and the most definitely haven’t been to Italy. The statement that Italians have never mixed with anyone else is ridiculous, especially when Romans were known to invade and conquer just about every other country around them, and take on aspects of each culture conquered, including slaves that they would mix with.
@@nytn little Caesar?😬most of those vlogs are based on anecdotes n no actual research
@@nytn 🤣🤣🤣
Or seen someone of Slavic or Germanic origin.... people of Aryan blood. Not that I have ei...oh, wait I only need to look at my father and father and law (Polish and German respectively) to know that person is full of it. Granted, being that their bout 60 now and grew up in the western part of US they pretty much have permently tanned forearms.
I'm ADOS, which is a Acronym for American Desendant of Chattel Slavery. I have reddish brown hair, hazel eyes and tan skin. There's light and Dark skin in all races of people.😅
You just described my whole family. Dark Irish w/hazel eyes. My dad looks tan year round. Irish on both sides ☘️
@samanthab1923 RIGHT ✅️ 👌, light and dark in every Race of Humans
There are surely different shades but honestly only the Asian race is dark and light skinned.
All others have similar skin tones within the race!
@@lyndoraburroughs-robinson5663 So true, both my brothers married girls from Venezuela & the DR. All my nephews & niece have the nicest skin ❤️
@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 Every morning I go to pick up my sister's (who died of cancer) children from school. The school population is made up of 30% foreigners. 10% are Chinese, the remaining 20% is made up of a bit of everything. Many are Moroccan. The mothers of Moroccan children are white, but no Italian has their tone of white. It's absolutely different. As if it had a different reflection, not pink. I'm talking about the white ones, because many are darker and some with negroid features, such as thick lips and very thick eyelids.
Chinese people come in many shades: some almost indistinguishable from the skin of an average Italian and others absolutely different.
So, all continents have skin tones, but they are never equal.
That Black admixture raised his blood pressure and cholesterol levels
It also gave him sickle cell overnight
Italy is not homogenous. Different areas have different admixtures. Southern Italy is closely related to Greeks , with a sprinkle of N. African DNA. My father is from Abruzzo region and I took a DNA test , out of curiosity cause I wondered this myself. I have thick , red hair. I only had 0.003% african (Ghanaian) the rest was N. Italian , 2% Agean Islands, 1% N African. All the Italians they matched me up with (related to on dna test) didn't have any african , other than 1-2% MENA (middle east/north africa)
If they were part black they would look like Puerto Ricans
@@tina-g8pall bs, look at the melting pot outside italy in europe if you like this topic so much ahahaha you would find a big pool holding 4000 diff genes (africans Arabs, Mongolians, Hunns, Indians) invasions over the centuries that here in italy never happened
@@nukekidontheblock8349 Invasions never happened? I'm curious now. What about the arab culture left in southern Italy? Pulgia region? I've known some Syrian people that will be talking to their kids and say "no mama" or something like that , and Italians always do that. I found that interesting , went home and asked my father about it lol. I did a 23 and me , and it matched me to other italians , and all of them showed maybe 1-2% MENA , nothing big. I didn't even see any with African or Asian DNA in them, so I'd say there might be very small remnants but nothing substantial at all. Maybe a small % do have more, mostly in Sicily.
Interesting videos👍🏼
I’m full Italian heritage and here in the US automatically get mistaken for Hispanic. When I go back to Italy to visit my family or just travel around I get mistaken for either being from South America or an Arabic country.
Due to me moving to the Caribbean, I'm mistaken as South American, Puerto Rican, Dominican 🇩🇴 by the Hispanics. The Arab population mistake me as being an Arab. I'm half Sicilian. My mother was sometimes told she looked Jewish. She is my Sicilian parent with 2 parents from Sicily.
I did a DNA test, and there is no Jewish, but there are Arab, Greek, & North African genes as well as majority Sicilian.
There are particular areas in southern Italy where some folks have an Iberian phenotype, more gracile. Not the norm but it’s seen a bit in the Campania region. Most Italians think Totti is the textbook common Italian phenotype but Italians have a very varied and distinct look.
@@GinoOrthoBro Totti is a typical Italian infact he just has blue eyes and dark blonde hair. A typical Italian is someone like Renzi , i can't see anything exotic in him infact. Italy is not even the same phenotypically from North to South and btw all Europe has very varied and distinct looks. 🤦♂🤦♂
Hispanic in America and Latin America has no ethnic connections. But usually it’s used to refer to very mixed people or people with strong Amerindian features.
But it really shouldn’t since it causes a lot of confusion
@@urpreposterous682 those dna testa are fake pal. Don't pay non sense. There's no such thing as Greek, NA or Arab blood. I'm full blooded Italian all my family tree has never been to Shitxico or a Latin country and welp... the shit say I'm part mexican. Also did this happen with other friends. Those test are sham.
Proud of you for making this video. Salute.
As someone who’s been everywhere in Italy, the email is hilarious. Most people that wrote these sort of thing spend most of their time on echo chamber web forums and chat groups and have probably never travelled out of their own state.
I can guess what the web forums are but do not want to say. YT already has it out for me😂
The only hilarious thing are Afrocentrist jesters trying to portray Italians as almost Africans. LOL
You have been in Italy so what?? Have you seen Levantine or North African looking Italians everywhere ?? Most Italians could pass as your average French. At most it's you who fantasize to have visited Italy.
@@alessandrom7181 " Have you seen Levantine or North African looking Italians everywhere ?? ".. Yes, actually. I did see them everywhere. Also, there are a lot of "French" looking people that are also swarthy.
@@adetorrent Yeah sure, so it's clear that you have never ben in Italy or you need to get a reality check and go to North Africa and Levant to see their features, take my advice. LOL
Also we have immigrants and mixed couple as well in Italy. Duh
Being swarty has not the same meaning of looking Na or Me either.
You are saying quite a lot of BS huh?
I’ve posted this before on other videos but it’s even more relevant here.
Here are some exerts from the study, “Genomic history of the Italian population recapitulates key evolutionary dynamics of both Continental and Southern Europeans.”:
“ the well-established cultural and genetic diversity of the Italian population, some of the most outstanding among those observable across the entire European continent”
- So the study sets out to find out why there are observable and outstanding differences between northern and southern Italians.
“To date, remarkable efforts have elucidated important aspects of the demography of the ancestors of modern Italians, which have contributed to their heterogeneous genetic background”.
- Heterogenous means unalike or distinct from one another backgrounds. The researchers noted two different lineages going back to separate places. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to ancient European cultures. On the other hand, southern Italians were found to have a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa.
“Italian samples turned out to be located on two considerably divergent branches“
- This is the result, we come from two different branches of the evolutionary tree. The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in Northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to other ancient Northern European cultures. On the other hand, Southern Italians were found to have a different origin that was a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from a region that extends into Africa.
That along with the fact that our geographic differences also contributed to additional evolutionary genetic differences between the two. 'In the subjects from northern Italy, we observed changes in the gene networks regulating insulin and body-heat production as well as in those responsible for fat tissue metabolism.' When it came to southern Italian peculiarities, the researchers found the genes that modify the production of melanin, which is the pigment that provides skin color that resulted in darker skin and hair. These are just a couple examples of many in differences between the north and south; in differences between two already different branches of the evolutionary tree.
Yes, mixing has also occurred and contributed to changes in the population. However, the two Italian populations are in fact different and distinct from each other.
People, unfortunately, tend to be biased and anyone different from them tends to be maligned due to these differences. During WW2 blacks were considered to be mentally unfit to fly, but when they finally were given the chance they proved to be superior pilots! In Africa, some dark black people were biased against lighter-skinned black people and considered them something to be derided and often attacked! People tend to base reality on their very narrow views! Hell, I am a white guy in a wheelchair, and when around people they either ignore the fact that I exist, which is most people, or they are overly helpful! So, the biggest problem is that people tend to be biased and can only see things from their perspective.
I was in Italy in 1984 and i was visting my italian girlfriend's home in Prato, a town near florence, Italy, and an elderly woman, about 80 years old, came up to me and saying 'che bello!',while, trying to touch my hair, my girlfriend told me that in ancient time that it was good luck to touch black people's wooly hair. The truth is that Africa and Italy have a long history together, and they mixed frequently and shared culture that have gotten lost or whitewashed.
Here in Italy you can find light skinned individuals like Totti or Bellucci, and you can find dark skinned individuals like Di Maio or Conti.
I don't understand why he talks about Capone. He's not the only italian that existed. 😂
You can find better pictures of modern italians.
Of course, there higher up the country you go, the more light skin you are going to find.
"African" is also a big word.
Berbers are african just as much as Nigerians, but they look very much different.
Even Berbers look different. Some look like West Africans, some look like Arabs. But even that doesn't work because some Arabs look like West Africans and some look like Swedes. Genetics are random, you can get anything from anything once the sauce is mixed in.
Di Maio is a jew surname,.
@@MrBazBake Arabs like Swedes. Ok, the price is right!
The funny thing is that, as an italian, I don't see any differences between lighter or darker skin tone among italians. For me we are all "White". Or at least my personal version of white (european and mediterranean). At the and of the day italy received immigration for millenia and at the same time italians emigrated all over the world. "italian" is a nationality, if your passport says "Repubblica italiana" you are italian (white, black or gray, it desn't matter to me) :D
@@FG-nu1bg For them the skin tone is yet important. They aren't europeans.
That man is the product of an American education.
Last night watching Finding Your Roots, one of the guests who was German kept saying she might be Italian.
In J.A. Rogers book "Sex and Race Vol. I he states:
The Moors in 846A.D. seiged Rome and in 878A.D. they captured Sicily from the Normans; and in 898 they defeated Otto II of Germany in South Italy. As they did in Spain, they mixed with the native Italiana, who had also mixed with the Germans. This 3 vol. set of books is very interesting and eye opening.
Growing up the only pictures of the inside of the Egyptian chambers where of Egyptians with light colored skin. Only in the past 30-40 years have the brown and black skin ones been shown.
You might consider having that man take a DNA test and show you the results.
Keep up your research,
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"We wuz kangs"..LOLMoors never sieged Rome and it was Normans who captured Sicily to Moors , who of course were not black. Also they never mixed with Italians, at most with South Italians and even that is a big BS because the DNA of South Italy is mostly from Iron age time.
Just a heads up. You said you were going to do a video on the Black Irish. Celtic is pronounced Keltic. I enjoy your videos a lot. I find them very interesting. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!! I guess I got confused by the Boston Celtics 😅😅
It can also be pronounced correctly as "Selltic," as any dictionary will tell you. Heads up to you.
@@nytn Any dictionary will tell you that it is acceptable to pronounce Celtic as Selltic."
Umm, has he studied the history of Sicily? 😂
Apparently not.
Or southern Italy!
Probably not.
after all southern italy and sicily (including malta and western sicily) have a greek anatolian byzantine (euro+ western asia) based DNA but during the imperial roman era we also had levantine (syrian, lebanese and italic) influence in addition to all this Mixed DNA During the Middle Ages Southern Italy had French and Lombard influence. while Norman influence (5%) and Berber influence (10%) in western Sicily. Also in the Norman era, the center of Sicily and around Palermo was influenced by Northern Italy (immigrant vassals of the Normans). after all, western Sicily and Malta are very Europeanised
This is what makes Italians beautiful
False, even from not so necessareis studies, Italic are pure and white and never mixed with anyone, unlike the big pool of different etnies in the rest of europe that faced endless invasion and here in Italy never settled… j
You even have siculo in your name, what a shame, youre prolly a fake account no italian is this dumb, Siculi were among the sub Italic races with Latins Reti and Veneti, t White and that mever mixed, that exist since 4000 years ago, if your ancestor listens to you you would be already gone
MY father-in-law was a second generation Sicilian, from Palermo. He was never "pale", but he did get darker in just one afternoon outside, in the garden.
Spero che coltivi ottime melanzane e che mi invitiate a cena. :-)
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Yes, I am blessed to have a wife who makes the best Italian dishes, including eggplant! I lived with my in-laws while finishing college, and Italian people, to me, have it right: family, faith and friends - the fourth "f" is food. I am proud of my Celtic roots, but the Italians' food and culture is the greatest on earth.
Italians do seem to be darker then other Europeans. Think thier more built to handle sunlight better then other Europeans.
@@KentPetersonmoney Especially when we give ourselves shoe polish. Which we do every morning to make you feel better.
There are more white blonde blue eyes italians than chineses in america which is a lot ahahahah, amd btw Italians get the tan in the summer ofc it became red first, and the tan go away in the firsts shower in autumn, unlike the rest of europe that faced countless invasion during the centuries from Arab Africans mongolians Turks indians that here in italy never settled
AS you know finding out that you are not as white as you've been told is something that makes some people "crazy"
You have a beautiful and glowing complexion! We have pretty much the same skin color. I get a little lighter in the winter but quickly turn light caramel brown in the summer. I am mixed, but I do have Sicilian ancestry so learning all of this is very special to me (because I also have that distant North African admixture).
I recently found this channel. I’m a huge history buff myself and of course Italian. My maternal grandparents immigrated from a northern Italian town named Bettola. Believe my paternal great-grandparents came from Genoa. I really had no idea that Italians used to never be considered “white”, because I’ve always thought of myself as white. Though my wife tells me I’m not, I’m Italian. lol
If you like American history, you might be interested in reading a book called “Puritan’s Empire” by Charles Coulombe. It gives you a perspective of history you probably didn’t get in school.
Ciao!
That sounds like a great suggestion! Just wrote it down, thank you. And welcome!☺️☺️
Great! I hope you enjoy it!
Is your wife an Anglo?
Italians are “white” because Italians are Caucasian.
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No. She is American of Mexican/Spanish descent.
Thanks for the vid, Danielle! Have been with you at 5k subs. 😊 Have just seen a short clip of Leonardo di Caprio. The interview was taken when he was probably a late teen. He said that when he was starting out in showbiz (around 6 or 7 yrs old), his agent wanted him to change his name because it sounded "too ethnic". (meaning - too Italian) Agent wanted to change his name to Lenny Williams. (Lenny bcos Leonardo, Williams bcos his 2nd name is Wilhelm - his mom is of German anceatry). This was in the late 70s or early 80s (when Leo was a kid). There still was discrimination on Italians.
Similar situation when Martin Sheen changed his stage name from Ramon Estevez (his real name). This was in late 50s to early 60s & there was discrimination for Spanish/ Hispanic sounding names in Hollywood. His son, Emilio Estevez, didn't change his name (but son Charlie did - his real name is Carlos Estevez). I've just remembered your vid on changing names.
Because Martin loved Bishop Sheen.
We Italians are white, just come to Italy and look around
I have family that comes over from Sicily and gets mistaken for Mexican all the time. My uncles, father, and grandfather that líve in the U.S. also get mistaken for Mexican. I used to get mistaken for PR when I was younger. So I wouldn’t say all Italians look the same and can all be described as “whíte”.
Also, I’m not trying to argue, if you feel differently that’s your choice. I’m just sharing my own experiences.
@@GhostSal Io vivo in Italia e sono Italiano, vieni a vedere
@@GhostSal Io sono Italiano e vivo in Italia, vieni qui e guardati attorno
@@Agostino9908 Sono siciliano, ho famiglia in tutta la Sicilia e so bene come siamo.
@@GhostSal Io sono Napoletano, mi guardo attorno tra amici e conoscenti, tutti bianchi, scendo in strada e sono tutti bianchi tranne gli immigrati di colore. Conosco una Siciliana di Pechino, bianca con gli occhi chiari, un calabrese di Crotone, pure lui bianco. Il colore della pelle non ha importanza, ma non si capisce per quale motivo si debba alterare la realtà dei fatti.
The Western European phrase tall, dark and handsome refers to Mediterranean men and Eastern Europeans...the dark bit refers to their skin being much darker than other Europeans.
Not necessarily. Cary Grant, nor Rock Hudson, nor many others were of Mediterranean or Eastern European heritage, for example. Plus, generally, the Mediterranean phenotype is not as tall as that of Northwest Europe.
I thought l tall dark and handsome was referring to the hair color.. since Caucasian dark-haired men seem to be prized in Hollywood like Rick Hudson
@JT-rx1eo Cary Grant considered himself partial Jewish, Rock Hudson was part German.
@asturiasceltic3183 The phrase actually started out as an insult or backhanded comment similar to "you are pretty for a dark-skinned/Black girl". Now, it's used to compliment men with dark skin or dark hair, but in Western Europe, it's still mainly used for men with darker skin.
@@knowledgeisablessing8767 yes I knew about Rock Hudson being of German background. Cary Grant I never cared for.. he always rubbed me the wrong way. Supposedly he wasn't a very nice person. I thought the tall dark and handsome thing went back to the silent film era of the days of Valentino and Ramon Novarro,, who played dashing lady's men of ethnic origin and darker hair.
Has he seen a map? Does he know any history?
Probably only some nordic methodology. Maybe some idolized american revolutionary war history with a dose of confederate lost cause sprinkled in
I have a friend who is Italian-American of Sicilian descent. She has used tanning beds in the past and so was always very tan but when she didn’t her skin was lighter, of course but she tans very nicely. Her hair is pure black (she dyes it now) but she said that was her natural color before going gray. Her two sisters were also similar in color although my friend for some reason looks darker and her hair is also quite coarse. She has said that especially after 9/11, she and her sisters were often stopped during airport check ins because they traveled a lot. Her son, who’s adopted and looks nothing like her joked that they looked middle eastern. My guess is if she ever took a DNA test, some interesting ancestry would show up!😂
I just saw a video from "The Pasinis: My Italian husband's real dna results". It showed he was 100% European.
I saw that video too. Thanks for the reminder. I went back to look at the guy and he does look very European and the way I use to remember Italians looking like.
My ex from Lecce would go very dark in the sun, my Friend Irene from Frioul has olive skin. All people across the world have mixed. The mediterranean is a melting pot. George Brassens, a french poet/song writer looked like a friend of mine from Algeria.
I am French, with nearly sort of yellowish skin, but of course, my DNA is as mixed as any European DNA: Viking, Northern Italy/Swiss, Asian, Spanish including northern Africa, Welsh, Irish, western French.
This obsession with skin tone is American. They created colorism.
I used to teach English in a Jewish seminary for girls 17 to 19 in the UK. I was chosen for this job because I am bilingual (French and English). The secretary who was enrolling them was a Brit. She insisted the girls were "non-white". I do not really care one way or the other, but in France, these girls were FRENCH, and nobody in France ever discussed their skin colour because to us they look white, in the way we understand white...I told the secretary to either NOT use the colour box, or put white. We had a spat and I had to call the boss. They remained white. The American way to describe colour is a disgrace.
Speaking of 'legally white' I was flabbergasted when I came upon an entry in the church of England baptismal records in Jamaica in the late 1700's to 1800's, before the abolition of the slave trade, that describes a man as being legally white. Before abolition all entries had a column for colour/race of child. I couldn't understand what it meant, but this video has given me a better understanding. My 2x great grand mother was described as sambo. Have you come across this term before?
There was a book called Little Black Sambo. It describes a South American black w/mixed European & native descent.
That derives from the list of "castas" or terms that the Spanish came up with to describe people of different racial mixtures in their empire. Sambo or Zambo usually meant someone of mixed South American indigenous and African ethnicity, and could also mean someone with that ethnicity who also had European DNA mixed in.
@e.urbach7780 This makes sense to me now as my uncle left a recording of his family 'tree' and he describes her as 'Indian.' Thanks for the info.
@@samanthab1923 WRONG It was originally about a kid from the Indian subcontinent, but racists changed it to meaning "Black".
@@CharvelStar7 Thank you. I have watched BBC shows where they call Indians blacks.
I always look forward to seeing your posts ❤ hope your having a great week! Also, this guy. 😂 Let me tell you my “olive skin tone” has never looked gray but has always looked golden. What a wise guy. SMH
Hahahaha
Honestly the fear some people have of being Labeled as having african heritage is ridiculous.
Because Americans associate African with sub-saharan first. Which is not the case for them.
@@olg06So what? Is Sub Saharan scary or something?
@@jujutrini8412 Well the country of Egypt is even suing Netflix for their documentary of Cleopatra where they casted an actress of sub-saharan ancestry with an afro. I guess egyptians don't like being falsely represented...
As a Nigerian Doctor based in LA, It is important to clarify that the legal action taken against Netflix is not initiated by the Egyptian state, but rather by an individual Egyptian lawyer. This distinction is crucial as it significantly influences the context and potential implications of the lawsuit.
The prospect of this case's success appears to be limited for several reasons. Typically, legal actions brought by individuals against large, international corporations face considerable challenges, ranging from the complexities of international law to the substantial legal resources that companies like Netflix can mobilize in their defense.
Furthermore, it's noteworthy to mention unrelated but interesting genetic findings as part of our broader discussion on the diversity of Egypt's population. Modern Egyptian DNA showcases a blend of ancestries, with an average composition of 15% East African, 5% Mediterranean, and 12% Middle Eastern DNA. However, a more detailed analysis reveals that individuals from Southern Egypt (Upper Egypt) exhibit up to 44% East African DNA. This genetic diversity highlights the rich, multifaceted heritage of the Egyptian people, reflecting millennia of migrations, interactions, and cultural exchanges.
@@olg06 this claim is false, the country of Egypt is not suing Netflix.
My parents came from Molise, both parents have a paoer trail of proof that their descendants lived in the same village since at least the 16th century
One grandmother had jet black hair with olive skin, while the other was a pale redhead
I also wanted to mention you have to make sure your great grandfather didn't get American citizenship, or else you don't qualify . I know because it happened to me as both my parents became Canadians before I was born, thus revoking Italian citizenship.
I have family from molise too!
@@Antonio-o4s8r In US it doesn't matter if they got US citizenship, as long as it wasn't before July 1 1912 and they officially didn't renounce their Italian citizenship in an official manner through paperwork directly to the Italian government. Many Italian immigrants to the U.S. didn't get their US citizenship until well after July 1, 1912 AND never bothered to file paperwork with the Italian government to renounce their Italian citizenship because the USA never required them to do so. As a result, there a millions of Italian-Americans in USA that have been Italian citizens from birth.
Full blooded Italians are completely European. Just varying percentages of different but related parent groups, all of which are close anyway. Central and Northern Italy is largely the old Etruscans and Steppe (Norse, Celtic etc.) with Etruscans being ethnically the same as the Steppe. SE Italy is more Greek, and Southern Italy isn't actually "North African", rather it's just that many North African tribes descended from the same parent group (are especially known for their gray/light eyes) and have since added Arab, sub Saharan and other admixtures. So in short yes, despite varying percentages of parent groups Italians are fully European.
Reading this all I can think of are the girls who wore “FBI” shirts in NY. Full blooded Italian. 😅
@@nytn You have no arguments and no scientific basis so the only thing you can do is to put smiles and be thumbed up by a bunch of we wuz kangsters infact. LOL.
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I spent some time in northern Italy, Venice in the 90s. The prejudice faced by southerners is pretty blatant, and not dissimilar to Jim Crow in the US. They wrote "stating southerners need not apply". It was addressed in the newspapers etc.. I even had conversations with Southern who were drawn to myself, black, and Korean freinds and stated that we seemed more open and friendly than the northerners!
This e-mail was a bunch of self-hate misdirected at you... bet he thought he really showed you one lol. Thank you for being scholarly about it and your constant reminders to us about the changing definitions of "whiteness" and your open mind to truth wherever you find it. You coulda really roasted this guy and here you were very classy. Hopefully you get to that 100,000 subscriber mark soon! You should do a poll on what kind of celebration to have on your channel. :)
I love these messages. We all have lots to learn, I learned on this video that I pronounced “Capone” wrong.
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@@nytn well you should see the look on the pharmacy tech's face when I'm asking for our medications...
I just ask with a fun nickname for the weirdly named medication. 😅
The color of snow is "white." Human skin color is incredibly diverse, and it varies across different ethnicities and individuals. Humans vary in light-skinned tone, fair skinned tone, brown skin etc. Human skin color is closely linked to geography and the sun ultraviolet. Variations in pigmentation arise to difference in melanin production. Melanocytes in humans varies, some have more, some less responsible for skin tone. No one is better than the other. As humans, we all are bleed red and cry tears. And yes, the Southern Italians were segregated as blacks on the census form from the South. Skin colorism is a global issue.
You know who else had "caucasian features"? ROSA PARKS!
That is because Rosa Parks had a significant amount of White ancestry. And Julian Bond must have had more White DNA than Black DNA .
@@Percept2024 Africans have the widest DNA span which is why scientists think everyone is from Africa. There are tribes with Caucasian features but are very dark skin, basically black people
Knowing this I find it so strange how people see black people like this day to day but claim people in the past aren't black 🤦🏾
Yes! Honest to gracious, she looked like a much darker version of my Nana who was 50-50 Scottish/Irish. Except my Nana had light fluffy hair.
She did
They are never shown, but their are a lot of Black Americans who look like her. I have them in my family they are not biracial
@@JaneAtwellRobinson1825NY Am I thinking of the same Rosa Parks who wasn't dark at all?
I can tell how big a joke you thought this email was. 😂 You have a great attitude towards trolls and their lunacy.👍🏾
Is that person crazy??? The Sicilian dialect has Arabic words in it. History has shown Moorish Islamic conquer of Sicily???
My grandmother had cousins who were dark plus has that individual ever visited Italy? You can find darker hue in Naples which isn't close to Sicily.
Sicilians are not arabs and they speak romance(neo Latin dialet ) arab is around 6% not much
what nonsense, you must be confusing the Sicilian language with the Maltese language. The word sugar also comes from Arabic. But some examples of arabic words in the englisch language. Alcohol , Algebra, Average, Bled,Check, Coffee, Cotton, Candy, Gerbil, Gazelle, Giraffe, Guitar, Harem, Henna, Hazard, Jar, Jasmine, Lemon, Lime, Mascara, Mask, Mattress, Orange, Safari, Satin, Sherbet, Sorbet, Shrub, Soda, Sofa, Spinach, Syrup, Tell, Zero. By the way, 30% of the words in English are of Romance-French origin, are the British now 1/3 of French and Roman heritage?
Yes Sicilian has 300 arab words, that's nothing. The majority of them were introduced by commerce with muslim countries and are equally present in French and in other Italian dialects different from the sicilian one. Another part of arab words were introduced by spaniards (Spanish has more than 1000 arab words. Another part was introduced by French invaders (occitan is full of arab words, via catalan). The sole part that comes directely from the Moors is the part concerning agricolture and fishing. Not a single word concerns intimate life
Jackson is not an Italian surname and even your first name ist unsual for italians, italian descent or even just quarter or half italians. What is dark for you? Dark as the night? Or what is your definition of dark? For the Swedes, the Norwegians are dark. For the finns the swedes are darker, for the Norwegians, Finns are white as milk. It always depends on where you live and where you grew up..
@@AntosiculoEolo Per loro 6% è tantissimo. Lascia perdere. Dimostrando che tu sei nero vogliono risolvere un loro problema. Il problema è loro. Dovrebbero risolverselo da soli, lasciando perdere la gente che non conoscono e che credono solamente di conoscere.
Danielle, you seem to make somebody angry no matter what you upload. You just can't win! 😆 Keep at it, you're doing great work.
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Sis im a brown skin black woman i have to do the same with my make-up. Its not uncommon for us either. ❤
Feels good to break out the summer kit, im ready for winter to be done! it's always a yearly milestone LOL
It's debatable from north to south
Italians are similar to the Spanish, with many regions that for 100's of years were either isolated or part of a larger empire that attracted or had large movement of people and goods. So it shouldnt come as a surprise the genetic and cultural exchanges between southern Italy and northern Africa. I feel like this person is being a bit ethnocentric. "Like"
That makes sense. However in Spain the isolation was thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years .. probably going back to Neanthadal days in regions like Basquesland
Kinda but the difference is Spain has been a united country for 500 plus years and there are less differences between Northern and Southern Spaniards compared to Italians.
You shouldn't really have acknowledged this email. The person was being a troll. Wasn't worth the time.
Genetics are a crazy thing! My father is living proof. His grandfather came through Ellis Island via Sicily and I was able to find censuses and other documents that list him as having dark skin, dark eyes and a height of 4'11". So his daughter (my grandma) marries a Finnish immigrant and her 1st born is my father who stands 6'4" tall, fair skin and green eyes. Go figure! ✌️❤️🙏
I love this story!!
@@nytnthe grandma I reference here is MY grandma Marion ❤ I still can't get over we both have one same spelling and all!
That is amazing! What a great match, too :)
Being from Sicily doesn't mean at all that your father had necessary a dark complexion. Plus there are many 100% genetically Sweden, Danish, German, Franch, English and so on with a dark complexion. I haven't watched this video because it is clearly a clickbait like all of her other videos about Italy and Italians which are a bunch of crap. Italians, *just like any other European country* has people with a fair completion and people with a more darker one in it but in general the society is white. The woman in the video is nothing but a fully ignorant person who says ridiculous things on the internet trying to create traffic on her channel, don't fall for it.
hey im a black african and fascinated by the history of mediterrean european and latin american...
I’ve been to southern Italy, this guy that called bs is talking bs
Regional group differences exist because of relative isolation and the obvious tendency to mate with people who are close by, not far away. Thus, you have different regional histories of mutation, random drift, natural selection, and gene flow. There are different degrees of gene flow and overlap between populations depending on the degree of proximity, geographic barriers, and various historical events. For example, the English are partly French, who are partly Italian, who are partly Greek, who are partly Turkish, who are partly Arabian, who are partly Egyptian, who are partly Sudanese. With increasing distance, the gene flow is increasingly diffuse and diluted. Analogy: we have named the world's oceans, but they're really just regional parts of one big interconnected ocean.
I'm 1/3 black 1/3 white 1/3 native American so I can look like a lot
So you have 3 parents?
Sounds like typical Brazilian to me.
@@jonathanborchardt891
Lets just say one parent is 1/3 European,African and Native American and the other is as well, maybe not the exact amount but similar, what do you think their children look like?
Do you understand the concept?
My mom is white. My dad is mixed but I couldn't tell. My dad is black and native American Black foot and Sioux
@@clbailey9586 this is the problem with %. It's not odd numbered. Half , quarter , eight , sixteen , 32nd and on down. Percentage is dumb and odd fractions is even worse.
That was a cool coffee pot.
thanks, it's a pour over. I love it because it feels like making coffee analog again :)
I recently found your channel and I was wondering if you have heard about Johnny Cash’s first wife. She wrote a book before she died and there’s a documentary about her called My Darling Vivian. It’s here on UA-cam now. Once it was suspected that she was not simply Italian Johnny Cash basically abandoned her and their children. The story was very heart breaking. I don’t recall the family ever admitting to having black blood but they reasoned that some Italians were dark. Google says she had a black great great grandmother. Johnny Cash obviously wanted to keep his career and he gave in to all the threats and criticism. He found the whitest woman he could to marry up with next. Just thought you might check out the documentary. Great videos btw.
Remind that misguided gentleman, that the reason some have darker skin, the Great General Hannibal conquered that part of that world.
Hannibal is a white guy. The romans carved a stone statue of him.
@@danieldigiuseppe7912 whaaa? Next you're going to tell me Scipio Africanus was white too! lol
@@danieldigiuseppe7912 it's still up for debate whether it's a renaissance work or not unfortunately.
There's a legit coin though with his head on one side and an elephant on the other side. Check it out
Hannibal (2nd Punic War) did not achieve much in Italy, he won all battles (in Italy) but lost the war. The decisive battle took place in Zama city in North Africa between Hannibal and Scipio. What the Romans then did to Carthage after the Third Punic War should be known to everyone, there was nothing left. Hannibal hoped for Italian support from the Celts and other Italic populations, but they refused and were against Hannibal. Furthermore, the North Africans of that time are not the North Africans of today. There were no Arab influences yet. And when we talk about sub-Saharan Africa, this was rather rare in the Roman Empire, with the exception of southern Egypt with the Nubians, who were rather confederates of the Romans and not part of Rome. As for the Arabs in Sicily, they left behind more culturally than genetically, because many were simply expelled after the Normans left Sicily. (They were rather liberal towards the Arabs, but not the successors). As far as Sicily is concerned, the proportion of R1B, R1a and I1 (i.e. Norman genes, is higher than Phoenician genes) and Sub-Saharan E-M2 hardly occurs in Sicily an the Rest of Europe. Southern Italy is predominantly 90% Romano-Greek-Anatolian, especially eastern Sicily, Calabria, Lucania, parts of Campania and southern Apulia (Salento). Anyone who claims otherwise simply has no idea. The Italian population is predominantly European, either Indo-European, Neolithic (Sardinia) or Appenine (Haplogroup G), do you know Ötzi? or J2 (settlers from Anatolia).
Hannibal was Carthaginian (not black) and his army was composed mainly by europeans.
Syrians look more white than southern Italians
I read a few articles about Southern Italy, the Southern Italians live in warm climates with sunny summers, and at least some Southern Italians have admixture with Ethiopians and Middle Easterners. It's obvious that many Southern Italians will have varying tanned skin tones due to the regional warm climate with sunny summers, later Roman era admixture with others contributed to increased tanning. They may not be White based on skin tone, they are their own ethnic group, but they are still European! Everyone's skin tone, body type and phenotype is dictated by their climate!!!
Send me over to the Mediterranean! Nashville was 47 when I got back this weekend 💔
Danielle, you are so interesting and well spoken. I am working on my husband’s genealogy and his father is Sicilian (Arigento region)on both sides and mother Neapolitan. He is so dark and many times is thought of as Arab. He has 7 siblings and only 2 were dark the others were more European looking. Just surface knowledge I have of genealogy but am going forward. Thank you for your work it helps and supports us all. Btw his grandfather came thru New Orlean and eventually went to Pueblo Colorado, then on to central Ca. To farm citrus.
My bestfriend since I was 3 years old ( were gonna be 39 this year) so that is 36 years of my life I've known her and her family 100% Sicilian and proud name very well known by the way anyway . Her family can trace their heritage all the way back, generations and my Nona ( she's my Nona too because she use to beat me like her grandchildren and love me just as much) Anyway this Blonde haired blue eyed fair skinned woman would be the first to tell you the true history of Sicily. She wouldve been the first to say this person wasn't born in Sicily so he dont know. Sicilians come from North Africa the children of Cartheage. She would say her ancestors came from Carthage true Sicilians know they are Black in ancestry. Because in her own words Africa was Black all black back then different kinds but all black . It's the mainland Italians, especially the north, who is mixed with French German, slav Norse, etc. She would say, "Look at the map Italy is kicking Sicily back to Africa, where we once was a part of .
My Sicilian family is diverse in appearance. Some have blue eyes, some hazel and some brown. Some with pale light skin and light hair to darker skin and hair colours. I can pass as Middle Eastern yet my uncle was blonde with blue eyes and was mistaken to be German. Most in my family do seem to have the ability to tan well in the sun which is a fortunate thing. I feel an affinity to all Mediterranean cultures.
The ancient world wasn't made up of ethnostates, let alone ethnostates based upon the ethnic groups that we commonly classify today. And people around the Mediterranean in particular traveled, traded, fought, and reproduced with each other for all of recorded history (and even before recorded history).
There's also no such thing as "genetically Caucasoid." There aren't separate and distinct races of our species, from a genetic perspective. There hasn't been enough genetic isolation to produce separate and distinct races of our species, from a genetic perspective. Race is merely a social construct that was just made up a few centuries ago.
Phenotype differences are real. This is a video about phenotypes due to admixture between Africa and Europe. It's real be it Southern Europe, Brazil, the Caribbean, and even the US. There is only 1 human race but their phenotype differences among regions of people with other people being mixed between or among regions being misidentified for other ethnicities or nationalities.
@@kemetnubiakamp - Yeah, there are very loose phenotypes and differences between those very loose phenotypes. But that doesn't have much scientific validity, let alone scientific significance.
@loki2240 They are not lose. You know when someone is Black or white. No one has accidentally mistaken a Nigerian for a Swede or either for a Korean. But they do mistake mixed people for other mixed people. Because the very definition of a Mediterranean is a mixed person that's why there's no standard DNA for an Arab and the reason regionally even in Italy there are differences genetically because people linked by languages in the same country still might not have the same history of populations. Also mixed people may be mistaken for ethnic groups of countries or regions not considered mixed between Black and white such as Polynesians who aren't a mix of Europeans and Africans but can look that way. But when it comes to Northern Africa and Southern Europe, the Mediterranean phenotype is mostly Europe and Africa with Asian admixture as well. It's not a mystery.
Yes, there are living people who still recall the Suez Canal being built. So they did lots of walking and there was Seafaring by the early Bronze Age if not earlier.@@purplespeckledappleeater8738
@kemetnubiakamp you are so ignorant my god
The defensiveness about people feeling they are "accused" of being "black" is extraordinary.
When it was revealed that "Ötzi the iceman" had skin darker than southern Europeans today, there was outrage.
Italians are Mediterranean people. The Italian peninsula is a historic crossroads. People from all over the Mediterranean basin settled in Italy. Northern Europeans settled there as well. This is historic fact that it not up for debate. My parents are Italian, from Naples. I grew up in the US in an immigrant family. Most of us are dark, and not only in the summer. Some are lighter skinned. I have cousins with red hair, but they are outliers. I have travelled all over the world. And generally, people think I am from the Middle East or South America, whatever that means; evidently it means something to someone. South Asians think my sister is Indian. One of my cousins even had anti-Pakistani slurs hurled at her in England. Race is in the eye of the beholder. And most of the race pseudo-science that was going on in the US in the early 20th century was not purely the product of American beliefs. It was heavily informed by the work of Italian race science. Anyway, I'm not sure what you bothered posting a video response to a faceless person with an axe to grind. I feel sorry for people who harbor such deeply racist views of the world that they are in denial about their own stories.
Speak for your terone part not for whole Italy. Italian science didn't inform anybody, Muricans are so insecure that they need to categorize everybody a thing that in Europe doesn't happen .
Greeks are the same in regards to the seasons. I can put on a nice tan by august (with effort) but a lot of us Greeks have this very milky white skin (almost vampire white) in the middle if winter. Needless to say, I look much healthier after summer rolls around lol.
He's stuck on stupid.
Nailed it 👌.
Thanks for the laugh. That guy was crazy. My dad and his friend who is also Mediterranean are both very dark-skinned people. My dad owns a construction company and many times they don't wear shirts. One day when I approached someone who I thought was my dad from behind it was one of the bricklayers who was Black-American. They were the same complexion but his employees thought the mistake was so funny mistaking a Black guy for a White guy.
Please read Giuseppe Sergi’s book The Mediterranean Race: A Study of the Origin of European Peoples. 1900 Anthropologists who explains that Italians were always dark because they are Euro-African who migrated from the Northern Africa.
Italian here, you have never been in Italy isn't it? Skin colours varies deeply from Place to Place and you can find natives Sicilians with blonde and blue eyes, romans were mostly white skinned with blue eyes like Totti or De Rossi.
"Italians were always dark" is a lie, although there are some dark Italian ( not many to be honest)
It's amasing how people that have never been in Italia know that we are dark skinned I am from near NAPLES and have green eyes blond hair( when I had hair) my dna is all european no african,and to say that some have Ethiopian dna it's new to me@@francisdrake7060
Sergi's theories are outdated because his book was published before the advancement of the field of Indo-European studies.
The Mediterranean come to be dominated by Italic speaking tribes, like the Oscans, Latins, Faliscans, Sabines, Volsci, Umbrians, Ligurians, Insubrians etc.
All of them were Indo-European speakers, none of them were “black” or very dark I'm sure of that.
Aahah You rely on books of 1900?? 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Also he never meant that Italians were Africans in case IberoMaurasian that is like Berbers in short, but it is outdated trash. We wuz kangs!!!
Interesting seeing that my great-grandfather who was born in Sicily was listed as brown when he came over here. Also I did a DNA test just because of my Sicilian side turns out I have Arab in me and Greek . I was expecting just Sicilian . Apparently the Sicilian side of the family doesn't talk about stuff like that. When you're Sicilian they consider you 100%. Cicely is pretty much the Melting Pot of the Mediterranean. It's been ruled and taken over by so many different people's how could you not have a mixture
Tell this guy I’m a Hispanic American and I know Italians in Brooklyn N.Y.. that are darker than me and I’m olive 🫒 skin. He better stop with the lies!
What does darker skin have to do with race? There are white people with olive skin like the actor Joey Lawrence who still looks like a white boy despite being tanned or darker. Joey Lawrence looks like a handful of Italians I met.
@@asturiasceltic3183Joey Lawerence is pale and doesn’t have dark features, he can just afford to sit around a pool a lot.
Southern Italians and Sicilians tend to have very dark hair and are naturally darker than our northern counterparts. That’s precisely why we weren’t considered “whíte”, up till very recently. Add to that our Latin names, that are much more like Spainish names, than English names and that added to the “not whíte” confirmation. Names like Salvatore=Salvador, Antonio (both in Italian and Spanish the same name, or have about Lorenzo, Maria, Rosa, Lucia, Luca, Eduardo, Enrique, Mario, Armando…
@@asturiasceltic3183 I’m not making it an issue you are!!!! My father is a white Hispanic and I’m a dark Hispanic that has the same color as a Native American but, look Latino and my son looks white in the winter.!!!
@@orlandovelastegui1391 Nobody cares about your color nor what you are.. You are making this about yourself as if your as so interesting when you are not
@@asturiasceltic3183 No worries, you are welcome to your perspective. Search for pics of him and you’ll see pics where he is very pale, the other pics look like he is in the sun a lot.
Southitalians are a mix of Greece, Arab, Vikings. In Sicily there are many blonde hair, white skin and blue eyes, like, for exemple, Bingiovi. In north Italy there is a big influence about Germany and French people.
Italy,is a word,Italian is a product of that word,a derivative.
The land mass however is not a word,and was occupied before the “Caucasoid” traveled to dwell there.
This is likely even before the invasion of the moors,which is where the mixed heritage of Italians is often and largely focused upon .
Africa had kingdoms and boats,before Italy was a thing,please remember it was once called Rome,not Italy,and even as Rome,what I’m referring to still likely predates it.
As I’ve said,I’m an African,Sicilian,Irish,German,and English mix.
So,this is like the second or more time my bloodline has done what I am now.
The invasion of the Moors is an invention. Muslims (white Muslims of Tunisia) invaded Sicily, that is one of 20 regions of Italy. Never invaded the continent. They made only raids on the coasts, in order to took slaves.
We wuz kangs!!! Africans had boats and kingdoms and then forgotten how to do that for millennias!! LOL
Also when did Africa was called Africa instead?? LOL It was Romans who gave the name to Africa.
Moors only conquered Sicily and got kicked out by Normans . You need to check some history book dude, Moors didn't mix nobody.
@@alessandrom7181 who said anything about being kings?
Everything you’ve said is self evident,and really wouldn’t need to be said.
And if you think the invasion didn’t succeed through acceptable and unacceptable procreation,you’re mistaken again.(procreation being the the ultimate Conquering force that withstands time past wars.)
Lastly,you just said they conquered sicily,is sicily,nobody?
Side note:
You either believe civilization began in Africa and or Mesopotamia,or you don’t.
Its a point of reference issue.
Technically,by last name, research would tell you i’m a decedent of woden,(literally)not African kings..(thats being implied by you knowing about African history,not me..)
@@JustRyanFromNola Can't you even read what you wrote? You wrote "kingdoms" like i did , not me.
No, the invasion didn't succed in nothing, Sicilians as by genetic studies suggest are not Moors ( who were not blaxs) let alone Blaxs, they are Italic and Greek and every Levantine or North African ( who had nothing to do with Subsaharans) stuff is pre-roman CAUCASOID. Sicily is an isle off the coast of Italy so Italy is not only Sicily and Italy was not conquered by Moors then again. Sorry.
I don''t believe at all that civilization began in Africa, let alone by blaxs, infact it was a joke. It started in Mesopotamia by Caucasoids and continued with Egyptian Caucasoids , then Hellenes and Romans\Italics and again Italians with Renaissance.
On a side note, it took 100 years to Moors to conquer Sicily and the "invasion" lasted just 75 years only. Oh and Italy was always Caucasoid you want it or not despite what Netflix says to you . There are genetic tests, there is archeology, there is anthropology too and with those scientific studies we know that Blaxs are not involved in any major civilizations ( save as i said in netflix) . You Afrocentrits wewuzzers are a funny bunch, really.
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Look,ask Siri what a Caucasian is..
I’ll wait..
Then,go research it for yourself,just be sure..
I’ll wait some more..
And when it sets in,I’ll wait even longer.
Because,you won’t be back for years if you do what I just said..
Franklin's essay was satirical.
When they use the suffix 'oid' in the message you KNOW there's going to be some BS... lol.
lol
Love your channel! Yes that comment made do a "what?!" double take! My grandparents, both Italian, are so "tan" or dark in a pic I have of them it's funny hearing what he said about southern europeans or Italians...crazy denial some people have!
These kinds of topics generally upset people with a racialist mindset because it blurs the lines they work so strongly to uphold. Also, blog posts are basically opinion pieces and are not scientific genetic studies. 😄 There are plenty of studies out there related to pigmentation and SNP phenotype analysis. Keep up the good work.
Yes: there are a lot of studies on phenotypes. Especially until 1945! Ahahahahah.
Ahahaha because do you thik what this clown says in the video is scientific??ahahaahah
They discovered that the vikings at the height of the viking migration were mostly not blond and blue-eyed. That look came later with other groups moving in. ❤
My mother never denied Italians being of mixed heritage. They are mixed! Who ever said that is wrong.
Speak for yourself Amerimutt.
Mixed with what is the better question. They’re definitely not part black
He didn't say that Italians are the lightest or fairest Europeans.
Al Capone wasn’t from Sicily, his parents were from Naples. Sicilians are naturally darker as a whole, even when not “tan”.
Also, Latin Americans play Sicilians all the time and vice versa, so what does that tell us? We are mixed, we as in Sicilians that is and southern Italians have a separate lineage than northern Italians anyway.
We have to look back in history to be able to distinguish our roots. People have migrated left and right and there were also alot of indigenous tribes close to the arctic circle.
Then we have the definition of white, its all about perspective. A whiter person might call me brown or dark while a darker or black person calls me white.
I think the Scandinavians have the whitest untanned skin around... but I'm not going to argue over it... since my unexposed skin color is that of heavy english cream straight out of the cow.
this made me laugh out loud. Maybe you can write a blog post for him about it :)
No, the Irish have the lightest complexion on Earth. Where have you been? I have been to Ireland, and other nations. Ireland wins lightest complexion hands down. If that's you in the pic, you are pretty dark in terms of how fair the lightest Irish are. Just saying.
@@raulrambomeI suspect some Scottish individuals would disagree. They can be as pale as each other.
@@raulrambome Yes that is an old photo of me... I've said I won't argue my point so I won't. I've an Irish temper that I prefer to curb.
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Mel Gibbson and Gerard Butler are both Irish and they can tan fairly easy.
In Italy, people from all regions vary in skin tone, from the very north to the extreme south. Generally, Italians in Sicily are not dark. We find darker skin in Tuscany, Veneto, for example. In sun-drenched regions, yes people are darker but come winter, one’s real skin tone is revealing. In our time, many, many Italians from southern regions have migrated to the north and so Italy has been changing for nearly 70 years on this respect - yet the Norman influence in the south, Sicily is very strong, also Greek, Roman. These seem most prominent. Greeks also generally are not dark. My own family (mother’s side) is full Italian from Sicily, in Sicily - and everyone is pale, dark hair, dark eyes. We also see many blondes, and even red hair in the south - Calabria, Sicilia. These physical features are not always indicative of particular groups. Over thousands of years, the peninsula and islands have seen layers of people settle. The north of Italy is very mixed, in terms of groups, tribes, dialects - Goths, Visigoths, Austrian, the (very mixed) Romans, Longobards, and more. Italy and Italian identity has always been this way. Sardegna is distinct in many ways, and areas such as Friuli are also quite different.
Darker skin in Tuscany and Veneto than Sicily?? LMAO..
get a grip dude, most of Sicilian university students in Tuscany and Veneto stick out like sore thumbs from the locals, not only for skin tone but even for features. Also if you find weird looking people in Tuscany and veneto chances are that they are partly south Italians as well.
Also Sardinians are quite dark.
Italians are the original Latino people, where do you think Latin came from?
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Sorry but it seems as you never had been in italy. We are mixed and different in culture, language....and even in body colours. I'm from milan and red hair. I've found my sosia/alias on a boat in scottish lake of lockness. It's common to find very light skin in northern italy. But even in sicily or puglia you can find people with blonde hair or frikles thanks to nornan heritage as people you can find in algeria or jordan
The light skinned ones have admixture from Germanics, Nordics, Alpines, Celts, Slavs, Baltics, And Western Caucasus.
@@matthewmann8969 Not even remotely LOL , quit with this BS amerimutt... Germanic dna in Italy is nil, let alone Slavic and Nordic. I don't even know what do you mean with "Baltics and Western Caucasus" the latter are aslo strongly Mtebid . Also how should Baltics and Caucasians have left a trace when they have never been in Italy? LOL Unfortunately for you there is science and genetic that can cut your bs. Italians are for the most like their iron age ancestors so the fair one as well as those darker are Italic descendants in the North and part Roman part Greeks in the south.
In the 70s I had an Afro Cuban friend. In the Hispanic community he was called a trigeño. The color of wheat. He used to tell us about being mistaken for Sicilian when walking through little Italy in NYC. He fell in love with Italian culture. Learned the language, not hard given his spanish. He married Sicilian. His wife was ablut his complexion, but with bluest eyes I had seen up to that point. Striking eye color from a person that dark.
I think he's lying to you that people thought he was was Sicilian like Al Pacino. A lot of darker people decades ago would say they were Italian just to be accepted
@@asturiasceltic3183 possible but unlikely that he would lie about that. You may never have seen a trigeño. For example the young lady who hosts this channel could easily be considered trigeña in Puerto Rico and Cuba. In the Dominican republic she would be called India. None of those terms would be considered a pejorative.
@@cristobalvalladares973The lady did a dna test and she’s very mixed.
Like with Native American and Black.
This dude doesn't know about language study. The Norse called Africans blue. Do we people in 2024 do we think they mean blue like us. We have to look at references to other objects.
I don't think Scandinavian 2,000 years ago have a word call Black back then the word Blue most likely the closest word to Black
@@coreylevine8095 exactly they didn't have a word for black. You would only know that by doing language study and comparing their use in other contexts.
As in “so black, he’s blue”?
However, the person who wrote to you might have been somebody who had misunderstood some info: the oldest wave of immigration into Europe, from Anatolia, was quite pale. Dark eyes and hair but ery pale skin. They have apparently endured to some extent in Sardinia which has always been quite isolated. Neither the Arabs nor the Scandinavians who extended their tender mercies to most of the Northern Mediterranean including The Maghreb and Sicily and Istanbul got much of a foothold. So, this person might have mixed up Sardinia, which is part of Italy, and Italy as a whole.