Why the Enclave is Wrong - Fallout 3 Lore
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>non-feral ghouls are harmless
> *Roy Phillips has entered the chat*
Desmond Lockhart: hold my beer.
Justiciar DeMumkey relatively, compared to the giant animals.
What about Set from Fallout 1? The guy who “ran” Necropolis.
sinjin entered the chat
>John Hancock walks in.
[Drinks Aqua Pura]
[Dies]
"You don't feel quite as lucky anymore."
Lol
Truth is, the water was poisoned from the start.
Must really hate being a wastelander huh?
Makes you wish for a nuclear winter
I came here to make that comment, but you beat me to it
Enclave here. Why isn't your video feed working?
"who the he1l is this?"
daddycrabs 69 Try the Gain.
*launches mini-nuke*
I like sgt Arch Dornan all though I haven't played the original fallout games I will once I get a pc
next news on you will be when I read the after action reports
Ox: "They've been held up in Ravenrock"
Me: *But Solstheim is... Uh*
Facts
Bethesda really likes using that name
Thane H Raven Rock, or Site R, is an actual military complex in Pennsylvania, built during the Cold War. That's the one the Raven Rock in FO3 was based on.
@@tetsumeaoepaidowha8394 raven rock exists irl too
Lol
"Getting rid of all super mutants would make the place a lot safer"
Uh Ox, maybe don't say that while Fawkes is right behind you with a Fatman.
Lol
You know what i bet there is a high chance he would understand and accept that fate if so many could be free from suffering.
I'm gonna play devils advocate and say I dont believe eden lied I think he genuinely thought you were born and grew up in a vault. More likely he was misinformed
Y’know I don’t actually think he said the wanderer was born in the vault, he just says upbringing. Maybe he thought just spending most of your childhood in a vault was good enough
im No, if his father’s DNA is mutated then the probability is high that the child’d be also mutated. Not knowing biology as an artificial intelligence is unlikely.
@@fellowtemplar5679 well id imagine if the only info theybhad on vault 101 was "will never open" meeting someone from 101 you'd naturally assume they were born and raised there.
@@princesstinklepanties2720 That would be the info they had on 101. It was designed to stay shut pretty much forever, the whole Vault would've eventually gone to Hell in a hand basket due to inbreeding and strained trust in the Overseer even without James and his ilk being inserted into the gene pool.
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 doubt that 1000 people would inbreed after 200 years, smaller villages IRL don't get nearly any new citizens and they keep going without learning Alabama's traditions
Bold words for someone in verti assault team range, Mr. Ox.
They tend to go in guns blazing
*Tesla cannon*
For the Enclave!
Person McGuy They usually let someone else go through the ashes to figure out what was going on
I hate myself for doing this but it's "sift through the ashes"
The lone wanderer:talks to Eden
Eden: suicide is badass
The Lone Wanderer: “So, anyways… I started blasting.”
Ox: Non-Feral’s are Harmless.
> *Charon has entered the chat*
Well, that might not be the best example. He's about as harmless as his contract holder makes him.
But ultimately, non-ferals are mostly as harmless as any average human being, really.
retrogamelover2012 which can go from Innocent to baby fucking bastard
Predator 20357 i’m stealing “baby fucking bastard” and using it from now on. Thank you for the new phrase
Depends on how they act
@@retrogamelover2012 except they can go shit crazy at any time
I actually enjoyed hearing Eden say that Colonel Autumn didn’t want to use the modified FEV to cleanse all mutations. Though it was mostly Inferred, I find it interesting that there’s a hint of humanity left in Autumn, or that he needs something to lord over. Either way it’s an interesting thought about the morals of one of the literal antagonists.
Dude just wanted to do what the Brotherhood end up doing, but if anything, better, due to better scientists and overall tech. Autumn states he wants to have the Wasteland flock to the Enclave for a plan for the future. Sounds alot better than the pseudo-feudalism the capital wasteland ends up under with the BoS
@@theshadowling1 I don't think he wanted it better.
My money would be that he'd distribute the water, but at a cost.
@@unhackerthelaziestbastardo6083 better than the brotherhood eventually taking every bit of technology you own from you
@@leopard_2A6-906 That really only happened when Arthur Maxon got put in charge.
@@retrogamelover2012Not really. Maxson represents the traditional BoS.
Fallout 3 calls the traditionalists the Outcasts, but the reality is the opposite, the Lyons chapter is outcast from the rest of the Brotherhood.
And even so, the Lyons chapter is hardly friendly to outsiders.
If President Eden saw what 90% of his members in Appalachia looked like, he'd probably call down an orbital strike on the whole region.
The Unnamed Outcast *HELIOS-1 to HELIOS-2, orbital strike ready to fire, awaiting future instructions.*
The only reason they used people of the wasteland as soldiers was because they were needy and technically were an outcast of the enclave, they were left behind by all other members and so were needing people of the wasteland to rebuild it, they still had the same ideals of the Enclave but were a more accepting one
I’d want to wipe Fallout 76 off the face of the earth too
The Unnamed Outcast but you’ve never even took a step into the Appalachian region...
@@sourmeat7982 its too bad it actually became good now. with alot more people playing it
I don't think that Eden lied to the Lone Wander. I think he just doesn't know that he/she was born outside vault 101.
But if without knowing, you've been traveling highly irradiated areas so you would have gotten a mutation sooner or later
@@killer12442 Yes, maybe. But I don't think canonicaly the lone wanderer has been ever exposed to such amounts of radiation. The overall exposion to the wasteland eould most likely cause some mutations but in a fairly long time.
@@teatimelulw6559 I feel like canonically you're right but I think adaption to levels of radiation in the waste land alone could classify as a mutation
@vTHExUNKNOWENv for eden....
To be fair, he said the Lone wanderer would likely be immune to the effects, not definitely immune.
"President Eden...lies". Ah, a true president.
I know right!
Commie animal!
The cake that is.
He acts like Trump
Cfr73- You don't know anything about Trump except what the lying, left-wing propaganda media tells you. You need to do your research for yourself,and stop trusting the media to give it to you straight. They lie about Trump and support left-wing politicians and their agendas.
18:49
"Enclave scientest running away"
Oxhorn : "with what legs
literally a war crime
Based on the events of Fallout 2, I can assume that destroying mutants has always been one of the Enclave's main goals. The Enclave under President Dick Richardson also planned to use a modified F.E.V. to kill all mutated (i.e. non-Enclave) individuals in the wasteland. Eden was doing little more than following the Enclave's agenda.
They're wrong but they have the best power armor so its okay
Winterized T-51 is better, because sometimes you get the version that can't get damaged.
True, but I was mainly talking looks wise. Although winterized does have a nice arctic feel to it which is nice
This one gets it!
@@arthurmorgan6358 what do you mean by "sometimes you get the version that cant get damaged"?
@@owendunne1586, there is a very common glitch in Broken Steel which gives you the unbreakable Winterized T-51 power armour.
Kinda ironic, the Government caused the Super mutants.
It was from the bombs. The FEV would've been perfected if the nuclear apocalypse never happened.
You mean the Institute.
The Institute created the Super Mutants.
I think it was more of West teks fault
@@khaos5085 vault-tec created most of the super mutants the ones you find in Fallout 4 created from The Institute but Fallout 3 they're from vault-tec across the entire West Coast they are remnants of a masters Army who was affected by the fev created by the US Military
this is just a summary of the super mutants in Fallout
And Deathclaws and the Atomic Apocalypse. Irony
Our goal is to recreate once great United States of America. 🇺🇸
Using FEV to project purity was idea of broken Artifical Inteligence, not ours. We wanted it for endless supply of water for people of wasteland so they become loayal to the Enclave. But we will come back America, maybe from our base in Chicago or other army bases that we retaken through all those years. One day we will be all united under flag of United States of America.
God bless America. God bless the Enclave.
Long live the Enclave
God bless America and God bless the Enclave
Killing entire populace of Vault 13 was too? Or sentient deathclaws? Or anyone who does not agree how you do things or refuse to work with you? Those ideas were broken AIs too? I dont think so.
Hail!
@@srg.graphouni6628 tough times require tough decitions.
"The Enclave is Wrong."
In the next episode, Murder is Bad.
Edit: I realize my mistake and am rephrasing it now:
"The Enclave is Wrong."
"YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER, WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR? DON'T HAVE ANY? YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT MAGGOT? TRUTH IS, YOU'VE LOST A PIECE ARMY-ISSUE EQUIPMENT! THAT SUIT IS GONNA COME OUT OF YOUR PAY, AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS MANS ARMY UNTIL YOU ARE 510 YEARS OLD, WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO PAY FOR THE MK2 POWERED COMBAT ARMOR YOU HAVE LOST! REPORT TO THE ARMORY AND HAVE A NEW SUIT ISSUED TO YOU AND REPORT BACK TO ME PRIVATE, DISMISSED!"
Treason! Men, Get A firing squad!
Bold words for a man in verti-assault team range.
Cope and seethe mutant
@@countdracula9399 I fixed my HORRIBLE misspelling of what I was REALLY trying to say. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
Theres 69 likes and im in a vert-assault team range, so I think ill keep off this like.
I also love the irony that Eden, the "president" of the united states is voiced by a British actor.
The first several presidents of the United States were not natural citizens and were British immigrants.
@@michaelweiske702 that's wrong unless you count being born in the colonies as not being natural citizens because every last United States president was born on this side of the pond.
@@Sumoniggro yes, I do count being born in British colonies as making them naturally british.
@@michaelweiske702
*INDIA WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU*
Imagine a Fallout 4 DLC where you, the Lone Survivour, enter the "bad end" Capitol Wasteland and can survive because you have uninfected DNA
Would be awesome
No, if they did that they'd have found some way to screw it up and made the Capital Wasteland look completely different than it did in FO3. I'm glad they did not.
a bit late but I believe there's going to be a DLC sized creation in Fallout 4's creation club that's going to let us go back to the Capital Wasteland
@@DemDoolies Umm no where on Earth did you hear that?
@@Jake1702 shit man i dont remember. mightve been on instagram or something
Eden and his bunker could have been a great asset. If you had the option to keep him alive when Broken Steel starts.
It could've been a true base for the BoS. But alas
@@jacobrobinson787 yeah, the BoS would benefits alot from those techs bit nope, even if you didnt destroy raven rock, liberty prime would just destroy it when you're in coma
One problem with AI is that it's limited by the parameters programmed in. ZAX was programmed to believe that its calculations would always be correct. And everyone in the Enclave has been raised to believe that ZAX is always right, so they often won't even question its pronouncements. That, IMO, is why they came to accept President Eden in the beginning, when there would have been quite a few people still alive who remembered that Eden was in fact a supercomputer.
Problem is, when you think you know everything, you can be blindsided by things you didn't know.
By the time in the game everyone who knew about day would be dead, so all the new soldiers including autumn believed the president to be real, especially since there was Raven rock
Wrong, the identity of the President is unknown to all enclave personnel, only Autumn knows Eden real identity.
I think the idea behind the enclave has a chance at being a good force for the wasteland. However all of its leaders in fallout two as well as in fallout three and even prewar did not have the ideas that the enclave said they did if they truly followed what they were advertising and what they “believed in” then they would be a force for good. Unfortunately they do not which is why the enclave is evil and wrong.
But they’re still the damn coolest looking!
I believe there is a need to separate Autumn and Eden’s enclave because Eden wanted purity and was willing to kill all without it.Autumn wanted to help all of the Wasteland like the radio said.Even in the game if you tell Autumn what Eden is up to he just quits.
Waiting for a fallout 2 video and yet here I’m am
Angel Perez I am doing the same thing man
That’s all I want
Joshua Wallace I come like every day waiting for a follow up to the series has it come yet
You said 'am' twice
Playing it is almost as fun as watching it, just saying
I wish the Enclave would have been more detailed in Fallout 3, a bit more lore, a few more quests and maybe a way to side with them before the battle at Adam's Air Force Base and with Liberty Prime. I mean, sure, they're evil but they're also interesting.
Not every one who serivces in the Enclave are evil. It's mainly the leaders, and those who support them that are evil. For example, the Remnant in New Vegas are good, and truly don't want to kill anyone...well expect Orion Moreno.
Eden is evil the Enclave is not
I really like the enclave and I agree with everything you said
I thought at the beginning: "Well, the arguments aren't that strong. It seems like the Enclave just want-"
President Eden: "What any other good politician wants. Your continued trust and support."
Me: "Yup, the Enclave is both wrong and evil."
wrong
Cant argue with that
Opens Vault 13
*Waves*
Agent you still out there
O lovely theyve sent me a moron
I really like the subtly nuanced shift in the enclaves ideology seen in the dispute between Autumn and Eden. While Eden represents the original (Fallout 2) enclave ideology of purging the post-war america from all inferior lifeforms (including humans grown up in the wasteland), Autumn gives up on this old view and adapts to a more pragmatic one. Yes, he is an unparalleled asshole, killing prisoners of war, civilians and innocents without mercy and hesitation. However, he really believes in restoring order and sustainability („I will tell you whats going on here. You lost. The good guys won this one“), even if its not based on altruistic values. While Eden wants to poison the water of the capital wasteland to purge it, Autumn wants to seize control, because he understands that who controls the water, controls the people, controls the wasteland. He does not want to just kill of all non-enclave humans. He understands, that a government (as what the enclave sees itself) needs a body of citizens to rule over in order to create order and sustainability. I am really hoping that we will see the last remnants of the enclave (chicago?) with a similar ideology. I think compared to the fanatic ideology of the Fallout 4 Brotherhood, it would present a very interesting grey area of good and bad.
The Enclave did plan on using Deathclaws but they somehow made them sentient.
So they sent Horrigan to eliminate them.
Theyre still some sentient Deathclaws in Vault 13 in Fallout 2.
@@SteveAdmienn so your telling me in fallout 2 those ungrateful sons of a bitch die to death claws after I bring them A water control chi
One group is focusing on purity, the other is a reform of the Enclave as a hole
Enclave Reformists would make a good starting faction for a Fallout game set in Illinois.
If you have Hearts of Iron 4. There is a fallout mod, and an Enclave mod. You can choose between Eliteist, or Reformist Faction.
I love the Reformist Faction because, they have the most traditional ideas, of America.
Enclave is a clear representation of radicalisim in politics and how "the end justify the means" can be justify for any atrocity
Yep
Not just nowadays. Presidents, kings, emporers, senators...they have all been liars through the ages.
What ?🤨
Santa Claus the statement
@Santa Claus the authority and putting ideas above everything and using it as a excuse for any bad deeds
Yeah, how dare Autumn try to {looks at notes} use project purity to establish themselves as the wasteland police force and use the clean water to create a safer society.
_Wait a minute…_
Exactly lol.
Can we take a moment and appreciate the pefectly aligned sniper shot that took down the Mark VI Turret at 0:46?
That’s the only accurate shot in the video jk lol
I think somewhere down the line human purity became Enclave purity and any good they could have done for the wasteland died a long time ago, but that power armour though
"I AM In ChaRGe hEre, I'm the EnClAve!"
Idk why but that was the most funniest line ever
Blue Mr Gutsy His wobbly-ass voice just makes the whole line gold
NV: “You speak in circles, what of the East? I am the east.”
3: “enclave >:(“
YOU ARE NOT THE ENCLAVE. I AM THE ENCLAVE AND WE ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE
No I'm in charge here
Oxhorn:”Non-Feral Ghouls are Harmless.”
Me:(Coughs)”Roy Phillips”(Coughs)”Gallo”(Coughs)
Charon much?
Also you, since technically you are unpure, according to the Enclave.
God bless the enclave, god bless America.
God bless us. You are enclave, I am enclave.
Yes
God bless the sneedclave
God bless America, God bless the Enclave!
Also, the Enclave DOES fight mutants whenever they see them. Go to the Capitol Building, and you'll see Enclave forces fighting against the mutants. Not only that, but the Enclave forces are generally more powerful than the Brotherhood of Steel, which means that had the Enclave won the battle for Project Purity, they'd have an easier time defeating the mutants than the Brotherhood does, especially since they have better power armors like the Hellfire Power Armor being more than a match for the super mutant scum. The Enclave's plasma weaponry and flamethrowers are also stronger weapons against the mutants. Also, it was only Eden who wanted to wipe out all mutants; Autumn didn't give a shit and would have given the irradiated humans and ghouls water in exchange for fealty, which is far better than the BoS not even using the purifier to create a stable state the way House does with New Vegas or the New California Republic does in California. Autumn wasn't being a selfish cunt. He actually wanted what was best for the wasteland, which IS a centralized state similar to New Vegas or the NCR, as opposed to the BoS who just wanted to hoard technology and play wack-a-mole with Super Mutants.
More people should see this comment
@@coolfrog5240 But they don't, which is sad.
@@HolyknightVader999 Most people are NPC's, that's why they won't see it.
Also Autumn never 100% assured he said maybe he would let you go which is obviously a lie.
Dude, I loved Fallout 3 especially the side quests like "Helping The Outcasts"
@ed champagne you literally know nothing about this man, have no context or history about his history. How would you know he would??
TheUniverse_ you don’t know anything ABOUT HIM EITHER. MAYBE he does know this guy? You never know....
One of the Best Villain Factions of the Video-Game World!
And damn, their Tech is SWEET~
It always felt strange to me that the ideology of the Enclave became so far removed from the ideology of the U.S. government. That they would devote so much of their resources not to rebuilding and reestablishing their power structure, but towards crazed schemes to purge America of every living thing, save for themselves. Colonel Autumn seems like the only Enclave leader who's even remotely sane, but even he seems to have forgotten the US government's idealistic foundation, judging by the utter ruthlessness he shows when dealing with outsiders.
The Enclave never was a part of the US government, it just spawned off of it. They had started their own secret group/ideologies before the bombs even fell. They made sure that they would survive by using the US governments funds to aid their own endeavors.
You’re mostly right, only the idealistic foundations of America didn’t necessarily matter all that much to the government in the years leading up to the Great War (as evidenced by rampant corruption and the formation of the enclave being allowed), so it’s plausible, probable even, that the Enclave would ignore those foundations as well.
It appears to me that recent actions by certain members of Congress and other high-ranking members of the Federal Government make the warping of Enclave ideology far less difficult to believe than it used to be.
@@jasontoddman7265 I think that sort of mentality has always been more common than many people realize. Especially those who idealize any state or country. The normal people have always been seen as expendable by elites.
It's not such a big jump to imagine the Enclave ideology evolving or not being too detached from the plans of a distant elite before the Great War.
@@antiochus87 Another thing is that there are clues all over the place in-universe of how ordinary workers had virtually no rights pre-war in the Fallout Universe; way *way* worse than we see it in real life. The cavalier attitudes of workplace safety (quite like those of actual 1950s USA) as described many times in terminal entries at major companies (in FO 3, 4, and New Vegas at least) for example. The Enclave is a perfectly believable extension of such attitudes allowed to evolve and grow through a further two centuries - especially in relative isolation in their, well, *enclave!*
I always wondered how the Enclave would interact with the Institute, would they shoot on sight or try working together since the Institute was the former C.I.T. which was a pre war group
Hmm it may be mutually beneficial
I think they would be willing to side with the institute, but would be distasteful of them kidnapping and replacing innocent people
The Enclave and the Institute would view each other as rivals first and foremost and then seek to destroy each other if given the chance.
@@dutchvanderlinde5004
True, they have opposing goals
@@contron2611 do you REALLY think we would mind about mutties being kidnapped? That would actually be pretty funny to do...
The only reason that Autumn wants the Lone Wanderer dead is because he is the only person who can and possibly will wipe out life on the surface. He wouldn't have killed the Vault Dwellers, he would have used the pre-war personnel to strengthen the Enclaves numbers. "Even good people do bad things when they are scared." The Enclave see the BoS building a large presence in D.C. and that is very concerning. The Enclave know that the BoS in the East are basically well organized, well armed raiders who wipe out entire settlements for a few supplies. They know that if the BoS get a hold on the D.C. wasteland, that they will begin their empire after they confiscate all "technology" so no one will stand in their way.
Also, Autumn doesnt always tell the truth, but that is simply because all militaries and governments have secrets that the public cannot know about yet. That is nothing unusual.
The enclave were awesome I wish we could play as them
there is actually mods for fallout 4 and fnv where you can play as them.
Who needs Enclave when you have Minutemen(1776 American Revolutionary-styled faction).
TheSovietComerade what the enclave are way better than any faction including NCR or the brotherhood hell even mr house the enclave are just the best also this is my opinion so let's not start a UA-cam comment argument ok thx.
Are you crazy
Because they're generic bad guys. Also, they drop fingers.
Caps, hellfire armor, and good karma, reason enough to slaughter them wholesale
@The Nova renaissance but who doesn't want hellfire armor
Just kill one enclave soldier wearing hellfire armor and you can have yourself a hellfire armor
@AmericanRed was Caesar's legion any better
@@Athanatoi repairs man, no jury riggin' in 3
The Enclave had a noble goal. They just went about it in the worst way possible
The Enclave is pretty similar to Caesar's legion because both believe in society becoming stronger through natural selection.The main difference is that the Enclave focuses on genetic purity more while the Legion focuses on strenght and battle prowess.
Either way both factions are irredeemable for the sole fact that even though their end goal is noble, their methods are just too cruel for it to be worth it.
I don't think the enclave is interested in natural selection. If they were then they'd consider the average Wastelander a successful branch of the human race. They're isolated people who feel societal guilt of being descended from the people that destroyed the world. They base that view on the Wastelanders not having built a post-industrial society from the stone age left them within 200 years.
Next can you tell us if elder Lyon’s brotherhood is good?
It’s clearly more sustainable than the western BoS. Promoting good relations with local wastelanders and incorporating them into the ranks solved one of the brotherhoods main issues: manpower and PR. The Western BoS suffers and is currently lodged inside the Lost Hill bunker because they made bad business with not only the NCR’s government but the locals as a whole just didn’t like them. They also refused outsider recruitment which lead to manpower loss during war with the NCR all the more weighted on their fighting capabilities and wartime sustainment. Lyons wouldn’t have to worry about either of these as he allows outsiders in his chapter and his policy on dealing with them left little incentives for wastelanders to rise up and oust his chapter. Hence the reason why Maxson still allows outside recruitment in F4
@Total War Lover Yup, look at the situation in Hidden Valley. Their numbers are decreasing rapidly.
I’d like a video on the history of the BOS and the various chapters’ differences. And which is Oxhorn’s favorite iteration.
Lyon's Brotherhood was better then the Western Brotherhood.
It had the most legitimate reason to form a Midwestern Brotherhood of there own. If Maxon didn't take over the group.
They’re good but idiotic in that they have goals that do not provide long term stability in DC Autumn does
I so wanted to work for the Enclave. Would have been great if we have had them as a playable faction.
Nah they are the EVFUL KINDA-LIKE-NAIZES ya know
@@SwedishEmpire1700 well...in fallout 4 is more nazi BoS..but okay. For me is Enclave good line only one problem is president Eden.
There’s a mod for Fallout 3 called, “Enclave Improvement Project” that lets you join the Enclave. Not only that, but there’s a quest that lets you talk sense into Eden & side with Augustus,& much more. Really good mod, can’t recommend it enough.
@@NCRVeteranRanger But isn't it unfinished? I heard it was pretty buggy and abandoned by the author
76 has the Wastelanders dlc coming which has faction reputation. You can join and gain fame in the Enclave. There will be human Enclave npcs being added. Im excited to see whats planned for the Enclave.
Well, yeah, they're the antagonists. If they were right then why fight them and cheer for their defeat. But I do think that mutation is holding back the wasteland from healing - not minor stuff like people being exposed to a minimal dose of FEV in the air upon birth, but the mutated wildlife and other monsters produced by FEV. How many more people could focus on farming and science if it wasn't for the threat of some mutated monstrosity tunneling from underground or deciding to nest in their house? Raiders aren't mutants, but they're a result of scarcity of resources that the existence of mutated animals creates. Now not everyone would take up farming if there were no Deathclaws for example, there would still be bad people that want to take what's not theirs, but there would be way less of them if people could focus on rebuilding and expanding again instead of trying to stick to their hole in the ground so that the roving band of super mutants don't notice them.
SinnerBeta I believe that if the enclave had the proper leadership they could have done so much good for the wasteland.
@@qDAGGOTHp The thing is that the enclave wouldn't exist in the first place if it had "proper" leadership. It was created by selfish leaders and continued thanks to it's isolationist xenophobic belief. They survived by keeping to themselves and by being taught to look down on the "impure ones" which kept them motivated. If somebody woke up one day and went "hey, let's be nice to the muties", he probably wouldn't be put in charge. But hey, miracles like the Eastern Brotherhood can happen I guess.
SinnerBeta the sad part is that the same government is represented right now in today’s society, the government or any power over the common people will always be somewhat corrupt. Look at the New California Republic, most people think that they are the good guys but in truth the politicians and high up military figures are just as corrupt.
@@SinnerBeta the purity thing is a much more recent part of the Enclave history by and large really starting with Richardson and with his death and the collapse of the Enclaves government removed any possibility of someone with different beliefs from being put in charge. Further Richardson tricked or outright lied to fellow enclave onto the full extent of his plans.
"Ghouls are harmless" Tell that to the folks at Tenpenny Tower XD Be sure to look for them in the basement.
The old man from 1:30 it’s like the voice from vault tec representant From fallout 4
"President Eden...lies". Ah, a true president.
You've yeed your last haw!
I hope, if there will be a Fallout 3 Remake that they implement a option to join the Enclave and to side with Eden or Autumn (or maybe make yourself President)
Because the Brotherhood is not really always like the one with Lyons. We see that in Fallout 4. The Outcasts are the ones that are representing a normal Brotherhood of Steel chapter
RPS :3 I wish the same, it would be refreshing to play as the enclave in 3. To be able to take the pentagon back with liberty prime intact
That wouldn’t work the Enclave would never take in a citizen of the wasteland as a solider or its very unlikely but I’m sure they would never take a so called mutated human as president it’s their own mantra to get rid of them and stop them so your idea isn’t wrong or anything it would just break mass amounts of lore
@@brookielad79 The make yourself President is not really a real thing but I can think that it could work that you work with Eden or Autumn. Eden seems to know that you are from the wastes and Autumn... I don't know If he knows but he could ignore it for your services. I mean the Enclave has two mutated wastelanders in his service. Anna Holt and the one mechanic from the Adam's Air Force Base so I see no problem here.
DadLeftAToaster that’s true just remember that the brotherhood of steel was at one point almost as xenophobic as the enclave but they evolved on the east coast. The only way we will ever get to play as the enclave is if the faction is completely rebuilt from the ground up with an entire new leadership.
RPS :3 yeah I think you could work with them but not necessarily be a part of the enclave just a sort of helper of the enclave
i honestly wished there was a speech option to clonal autumn that was "i only see a raider boss here" that would insight him to attack
HAHAHA That would've would've made killing him OH so satisfying. >:D
I find it kind of funny that Maxon's BoS has a taken in a different version of this "purity" problem from the Enclave.
Hmmm sounds like something a synth would say
You spelled “right” wrong
The Platinum Halo but why?
The Platinum Halo ok nazi
Heil The Enclave.
There's one person in this comment who dose not quite get what your saying
Why the fallout 3 bos is the best bos in fallout history and autumns enclave might be the best hope for the capital wasteland
Because they are a splinter faction, and don't actually follow the BOS tenants.
@@dwarfzulu5003 they still followed the bos rules and what guys so there still the bos and such
@@dwarfzulu5003 yes but he also said that he hopes to find some pre war tech and that tech is library prime to recontact the other bos elders but I see where your coming from at the same time
yet another reason Lyons is a bro.
@@colinschwiethale2375 Not really, they're behaving almost identically to how the BoS from the end of Fallout 1 to the war with the NCR behaved. Reintroducing tech to the wastes and helping turn the NCR into a superpower in the west. The BoS was even established as being a major development house in the accepted canonical end of Fallout 1. Which unfortunately means the path Elijah and Arthur Maxson went down, was according to the rules of Roger Maxson II, one of the least influential Elders the BoS ever had. His kid, Roger Maxson III was the one that followed his grandfather's ideals and forged the BoS into a true force for good, instead of just being tech hording cowards in bunkers.
And you can’t join the enclave Bethesda is hurting my feeling I thought we were friends
21:20 well, that, and according to terminal entries, giving civilians rations in exchange for running genetic tests on them. The fact that most of those people fail these tests really saves resources.
As Qui Gon Jinn once said "The Ability to speak doesn't mean you have intelligence"
well, i've played HOI4 old world blues, i've managaed to do both reformed enclave and purifier enclave, both have no manpower at all.
such a good mod lol.
Bart De Bock yeah but how many men you encircle?
I love the Reformed Enclave. They are the most true Americans, then the Purified Enclave.
My theory: Eden *did* make every calculation. He just stopped caring about humans. He wants all humans eradicated. Maybe even all biological life.
The Enclave is doing it's best trying to restore America but they're doing it wrong just like the Institute BUT the Institute wants the best hope for *Humanity* not any form of government or country.
Also if the Enclave started helping people besides it's self like Killing Raiders, Supermutants, and Slavers, this would do more good than just releasing a virus that kills everything with mutations....
*If they really stand for America, help it's citizens get back on track*
*Galaxy news version*:
- We bringin' to studio this mornin' one of the Enclave activists, mista'... should I call ya mista'?... President Eden. Good morning.
- Good morning.
- Why r u gae?
Eden:”The wasteland is mutated!”
MODUS: *Literally sells mutations in the science wing*
I always assumed that the whole purification of the wasteland thing was just a means to give The enclave ultimate power and control because werent The enclave soldiers in fallout 3 supposed to be mostly pure?
If I was to have an evil character, or to have a good character, I'd like to be able to actually join the factions instead of just supporting them. I love the NCR and I love what they do, but you cannot just join the faction you have to only support them. If I want my character to be evil I join the Enclave,
Got to love Malcolm McDowell as the U.S.president and not because I'm British...
[ BRITISH PRIDE INTENSIFIES ! ]
A British pres. probably won't be too far down the road.
I wouldn't be proud to be a brit
@@JReed7560 you have to be born in the U.S. to be president.
Legally it’s impossible to have a English president, due to the official requiring being born in the U.S. as a requirement of the candidate to run. This also makes the founding fathers the only viable British born candidates able to run, and they’re long dead.
@@COUNTERCOM I know. I figured the way things are going anymore that anyone could throw their hat into the ring.
PRESIDENT ROBOT: “No! You can’t not want purity!”
PLAYER/BOS: “Ha ha- mini-gun go: brrrrrrrrr.”
It's funny when you realize that this entire faction is summed up by their own name. If you define "Enclave" it reads; "a distinct territorial, cultural, or social unit enclosed within or as if within foreign territory".
Eden has no empahty; it's a computer, making calculations beyond a moral human compass. I dissagree with the character, but to say he's too human or delusional, nope. It's a program, nothing more, nothing less IMO. But great vid none the less, very entertaining like all your vids. Keep it up
That's presuming he's restricted to the current definition of computer, which just isn't true. Eden is a real AI: capable of learning beyond it's programming. Unfortunately, he was given a very biased account of history.
Well with your logical thinking... Aren't YOU a computer? Technically your thought processes are just chemicals and electric pulses being transmitted through your biological hardware. If we, for example, change every cell in your body with a micromachine that acts, in the same way, of course, one by one... wouldn't you still act the way you do now?
Wait,
*people think the enclave is right?*
How could have thought that
Yes, yes I do
i know is right.
You mean KNOW they were right
Because it is America. And God bless America! And God bless the Enclave
Maybe if we could have an option to play as the enclave in Fallout we could understand their motivations, when you meet the remanents in new Vegas you can see that they were people that just happen to be part of the organization and they belive in something
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a terminal/holotape where James mentions that the lone wanderer has no mutations?
These are all words of an communist sympathizer and I will not stand for the slander. God bless the enclave and god bless America
Still, the Enclave is probably the best and most interesting faction with the most potential! Especially Fallout 4 was a wasted opportunity. Having to join the Enclave as the Sole Survivor and help guide it in the right direction. Purists or Reformers. If you played the HOI4 mod Old World Blues Enclave you know what I mean. The Enclave may be extreme in the eye of some people but they truly are the only choice for the wastland. Fallout 3 really was a terrible installment representing the Enclave. I always saw them as a group of people who had the peoples best interests at heart but may only see the more radical way as a efficient solution!
For the Enclave!
Astolfo fan Nah, the enclave had a conglomerate of corrupt, rich asshole Americans who feared that they would lose all of their power they had. A foundation that was founded on obtaining power, through any meanings that are genocidal, conquest, truly ruthless paths. If you ask me the only way towards redemption is the whole Enclave name ideals die, then maybe what’s remaining can be turned into something new.
@@jaegar2786 You cannot kill an idea. The Enclave is an idea. God bless the Enclave, remember Navarro!
in 76..
Like the fact their all dead and you cant talk to anyone?
they're*
In 76, they're also responsible for at least the Super Mutants, snollygasters, Liberators plaguing the countryside, and of course the origin of the Scorchbeasts and the Scorched plague. Basically, Eckhart and his cronies are at fault for the deaths of every single person in Appalachia outside the Vault.
@@DeaconBlues117 Eckhart turned his back on the true Enclave, he cut communications with the other Enclave facilities and declared himself President all in order to further his own ambitions. That man is a traitor.
You make some amazing comprehensive content! I love your your style and am always excited to tune into.. "a brand new video." Keep up the fantastic work.
On behalf of president eden I disapprove
Enclave is based.
Dropped off my step brother at his first day of high school and now an oxhorn notification? Great morning
Heh, funny BoS man go brrrrrr
23:41 Hold on. I distinctly recall that you can convince Colonel Autumn to give up and walk out.
War... War Never Changes!
Neither does Friendship!
But Ponies do and the roads that they trot!
*Sing I don't want to set the world on fire by The Ink Spots*
10:44 "soldiers from being warriors"
"There's a difference. Warriors attack and conquer, they prey on the weak. Soldiers defend and protect the innocent - mostly from Warriors."
Th3 UnFuNNy Yeeeesssss KOTOR time
'Nice speech. I bet you tell yourself that every night so you can sleep.'
0:02 good to see I'm not the only one who attempts to run back inside, wonder if it's even possible?
"I'm not gonna stand here and listen to you bad-mouth the greatest democracy the world has ever known"
Wait so, after watching the video, are u saying the enclave could be better without its actual leaders?
Any faction could be a force for good if led by people with that intention
Eden: “I’m only human, after all.”
The soldiers themselves could turn out to be good but they just want to respect authority and listen to eden and autumn
The Enclave does have noble ideas tho the need to extinguish every single mutated lifeform in the Wasteland is a bit over the top
Why
@@sebastianrosenheim6196 because mutations is actually a natural thing that happens when things need to adapt to the environment
Natural Mutation is far less Randome and Dangerous , also people in Fallout should be infertile with that much Radiation around.
Tunnel Snakes rule! There the right choice
Only the Republic of Dave can usher in civilisation onto America once more!
Just have to say. I absolutely love the intro to this series. Great job with it oxhorn.
"Deadly anomalies! Dangerous mutations! Anarchists and bandits! None shall stop Duty, er the Enclave on it's triumphant march to save the planet!" -President Eden (maybe)
Enclave. The equivalent to the Byzantines. Remnants of an old Empire.
It's YOU from the family guy video