@@dr.lyleevans6915 it's the fucking truth. If your brainwashed, programmed ass could wake up from your indoctrination and TV programming you'd realize what an idiot and a loser you are....
@@dr.lyleevans6915 what is patriotism? Just another ism. Whatakes you thi k you are special for being born in a certain country? It's basic brainwashing. If you had an actual legit schooling you'd have actually grown up and realized how ridiculous that is. By chance you were born. And just because it was in America it makes you better the someone born say Brazil? What a fucking idiot you are dude. For real. Still in highschool eh? I'm American. Just smart enough to see through the government propaganda. America is no better then any other firm government. It's all the same. You were just told it was better and your dumb ass believed it no question. Blinded you to everything that actually goes on around you.
It's like borrowing someone's phone, dropping it and cracking the screen, then returning it saying "yeah I dropped it but because you agreed to let me use it, I therefore owned it for the time being so technically this phone belongs to me but, now I am returning it to you and I will not be held accountable because I am now essentially giving you MY phone".
If having "access to the keys, and [the ability to] drive the car from the facility" is all they need to claim ownership then why not just let Tom Baker just keep the stupid thing.
just don't give it to them. I mean if they ask, then take it depending on your consent and then say that they have "detained" it by being in possession of it and thereby can do what they want with it because of sovereign immunity, then your property can be in danger because of some idiots mishandling your property.
The immunity shit has to be rained in, it's bulshit that officers can pull this kind of shit and not pay a dime. It's happened a few times before, I know of another case were a guy was on the run from the law and hid in an innocent family' house and the police basically blew it up to get the guy then didn't pay a cent.
@@ChrisAce117 reined*, and no, for better or worse, it’s something we need in order to allow officers do they job properly. Stay in your lane. Don’t speak of things you no nothing about.
So much hand-wringing about whether it was borrowed or taken just shows how ridiculous it is - you have an innocent party's property and you screwed it up. Of all entities to argue they shouldn't have to make compensation - the one who can literally print money.
"This f50 is a Beaut can i take her out for a spin" Algar Ferrari: "sure just dont drive it like you stole it haha" "5 minutes later" Algar Ferrari: *well shit guess i shouldn't of said that*
That wreck picture looks like a nice, sunny day, and it's WAAAY up on the curb. There's no way in hell they weren't doing some stupid shit, no matter how bald those tires were.
I still want some big name lawyer to explain how the concept of sovereign immunity is even constitutional to begin with. Something about 'Congress shall make no law (...) prohibiting (...) to petition the government for a redress of grievances.'
Literally pre french revolution "L'État, c'est moi". Or in more meme-friendly format: I am the law. That's it. No, really. How could one expect the state to prosecute or judge the state? Unless... one had separation of the different aspects of the state's power with checks and balances between them... And just like that sovereign immunity died in the 1700s. Except in places that didn't implement separation of powers right...
Very interesting! I graduated from Villanova University this past May and Algar Ferrari was less than a mile from my campus, so I frequently drove by it always amazed at what they had. I had heard about this story but never knew the full details, very good job!
on the flip side, how many cars get stolen every day and are never seen again, the insurance companies still pay out on those. this case was special being as the car got recovered without a scratch and MIC had the opportunity to actually get their money back, but got jipped in the end by uncle sam. $370k at a salvage auction isnt bad considering they could have been out the full $630k or whatever they paid out only for the car to disappear
And then there's what they paid for the legal costs. Those lawyers were certainly not cheap. Wonder what the total cost was... In any case it's a lot of money :/
Thanks for the morality story.... Stealing is bad. I was thinking of stealing a Ferrari today... you set me straight... This "test drive" dash theft is pretty common with exotics..... I have test drove average cars and exotics. Even a Honda dealer will require you give them your DL which they photocopy, hold your car keys and have a sales person ride along. On the other hand I have been thrown the keys at other dealers... One for sale by owner car I looked at, the guy said he was not home, but he told me the car was in the driveway, un-locked, key on the floor, take if for a test drive. He did not know me from Adam. I just called on a classified ad. I did do the test drive. I passed on the car...
@@Turshin 1) it is illegal and subjecting. me to criminal charges. As an airline pilot that would be career ending. 2) apparently you've never made a claim on the car but the insurance companies don't pay full price. Selling a good working car is better than making an insurance claim any day of the week.
@@gmcjetpilot lmao depends on the state and what type of insurance you have. Sounds like you've never heard of agreed value. I'm not promoting insurance fraud in any way. Its definitely illegal but, lots of ppl make cars "disappear" all the time. Like I said may have did them a favor.
@@Turshin Why would you make that snide sarcastic comment I "guess you haven't heard"? I've heard of everything and know more than you. I have a classic car (1967 Camaro). Hagerty. Yes it has agreed value. Your run of the mill daily driver wirh any ABC insurance company is NOT agreed value. Appraised value IS determined at time of loss 100% by the insurance companies AND it is what they say it is. Hard to replace a cars for that price6. Bottom line no one is getting rich off a stolen car insurance payouts. I have USAA (excellent) and pay a very small premium for appraised plus an extra $2,500. When you ask any insurance insurance company what they would pay for a total loss of your car today they won't tell you. You can dispute it, and show values through reputable sources and negotiate. Again my point is you're not going to get rich off of getting your car stolen. Selling a clean used car by owner is almost always more than insurance.
@@gmcjetpilot 1st calm down it's just UA-cam. 2nd you dont know me from the man in the moon so you havent a clue on what I know. 3rd I never said you could get rich from doing insurance claim on a car. Let's say for instance they're tired of the vehicle or behind on payments. You mr. PILOT shows up and steals car. They make claim, insurance company pays for the car. Yes you have to have gap coverage just in case the car is worth less than what you owe on it.
You can be pretty much guaranteed the district judge had little to do with this decision and it had everything to do with the government having zero interest in having the ruling set a precedent that the government is responsible for their actions and destruction of property, especially in custody. I'm sure they leaned on him extremely hard.
Thank you sir! This was, without a doubt, the most interesting and craziest RCR Story thus far. I like to think that I'm relatively well-informed when it comes to the subject of cars, trucks. bikes, and everything else in the 'moto-world;' you've just demonstrated how uninformed I really am. Yours was not only my introduction to this whole case (shitshow?) but it also left me with some persistent questions that I need to research...What happened to the Testarossa? And the 328?! Were there others? It's easy to assume that the feds found those cars in response to the initial F50 inquiry (bust), but that wasn't actually addressed in the story. What if each car was stored away in a different and distinct hiding place? The F50 may be gone but he can still drive a stolen Ferrari w/12 cylinders and a gated manual. Living the dream!
Really a crazy story. Most of the time I really couldn't believe how it kept unfolding. Thx Roman for sharing this crazy story and awesome storytelling!
So, let me get this straight, guy steals Ferrari, sells it, GM steals the stolen Ferrari, then the FBI steals and wrecks said Ferrari, and the district courts just said "Lol it's not yours who cares, we're innocent" still leaving the dealership technically out a Ferrari that should have been returned for the insurance payout.
Good stuff!! Despite the fact this was resolved?.....almost 10 years ago, I feel this strong urge to get that broken F50 over to Tavarish and simultaneously have Legal Eagle sort through the case documents.
"it probably cost the new owner thousands to get the car back to its former glory..." - sounds a bit modest. I can't imagine the repair not costing six figures.
@@handyec Now this can have 7 digit value, irc this is last car when Ferrari rly produce only xxx cars. Next hyper Enzo 399+1 for pope, is more likely 430+
It would have been nice to know if the FBI agent or prosecutor got into trouble for driving the car without a good reason, or if the reason was indeed legitimate... but I guess the FBI aren't likely to leave documents that say that kind of thing lying around...
Is it us feeling bad for the insurance company or us feeling bad for the F50? I mean, how many of us attach a personality to everyday cars we drive? It's not much to assume the F50 was and is an amazing vehicle and with so few made and imported, we all just want to see the car taken care of and justice come to whomever injures it.
"It's seems rare to feel sympathy for insurance companies." and even though this is a miscarriage of justice, I still don't feel sympathy for MIC because they're an insurance company lol
It's like having your poop chute being forcibly split open for years, but finally the entity giving you the BUSINESS slips and breaks its dick in half!
Bravo sir I had heard of the FBI crash but did not know the entire story, I also knew about the Bomber crashing into the Empire State Building but did not know 14 people died or a law was made after the incident!
Yeah, hatred for the government is something that should have brought the "left" and "right" together a long time ago. Gun owners joke about carrying cheaper guns like Glocks because if it ended up in an evidence locker it won't be as tempting for a cop to take home and keep as a nicer gun. *except we're not joking, cops do this, they steal antique guns and cars from citizens all the damn time*
Excellent story, as a car lover and someone who doesn't like seeing good people being taken advantage of, I'm intrigued and disgusted. It's wrong how the federal government treated the insurance company.
I just reviewed the pre-production Roma at Algar 2 months ago, they of course didn't tell me this story, not their proudest moment. This was a really cool thing for me personally!
I want to give a slightly different account of exactly how the guy got the f50 out of Algar’s possession. This is a second hand story BUT, I will provide these bona fides: my dad knew a couple of guys at Algar, because he bought a car from them and was having it fixed there either very shortly before this happened or at the same time. We lived a mile and a half down the road from Algar in 2003 as well so I remember this happening when it happened. The story I heard, again, second hand (from my dad who heard it from someone at Algar) is that this guy got into the car with a salesman and took the car on a test drive, salesman in the car. Through some chicanery (the specifics of which I do not recall) this guy got the salesman out of the car while he remained in it. I *believe* he was driving, the salesman was asked to take over and when the salesman got out of the car to switch seats this dude took off. That’s what I heard. I cannot confirm that it was true. My buddy saw the car that day near a park called The Willows which is near where the theft/switch allegedly occurred, but can’t remember if he saw two people in the car. This was 20 years ago (ouch) so memories have faded.
I feel sorry for the first victim. Truly not his fault. But not for the idiots who gave this guy the F50. You can't even test drive a base model Corolla without showing at least some ID and drivers license
@@12ealDealOfficial right; except I never understood in that movie, they jump from the car being in the show room to Al Pacino driving it. How did he get it onto the street?
High-end dealerships just "work differently". The dealer has to assume if a potential customer is interested in a insanely-priced vehicle, then they must have "F*ck You" money. One might argue that it's worth less to lose a car than to lose a customer at this level.
@@12ealDealOfficial I will take your word for it; it has been a long time since I have seen that movie. Still though, not terribly realistic that they let a kid who is barely old enough to drive, if he is old enough to drive, take that car out
Algar didn't just hand him the keys to the F50. The salesman took him out for a test drive, during the drive the their asked him if he could drive the car. When they switched seats is when Baker took off and left the salesman out in the street.
"We've investigated ourselves, and concluded we did nothing wrong."
The american way
@@akilh340 Hater
@@dr.lyleevans6915 it's the fucking truth. If your brainwashed, programmed ass could wake up from your indoctrination and TV programming you'd realize what an idiot and a loser you are....
@@dr.lyleevans6915 what is patriotism? Just another ism. Whatakes you thi k you are special for being born in a certain country? It's basic brainwashing. If you had an actual legit schooling you'd have actually grown up and realized how ridiculous that is. By chance you were born. And just because it was in America it makes you better the someone born say Brazil? What a fucking idiot you are dude. For real. Still in highschool eh? I'm American. Just smart enough to see through the government propaganda. America is no better then any other firm government. It's all the same. You were just told it was better and your dumb ass believed it no question. Blinded you to everything that actually goes on around you.
Story is that the agent who did the joyride was connected way up higher within the bureau.
It's like borrowing someone's phone, dropping it and cracking the screen, then returning it saying "yeah I dropped it but because you agreed to let me use it, I therefore owned it for the time being so technically this phone belongs to me but, now I am returning it to you and I will not be held accountable because I am now essentially giving you MY phone".
Gonna have to try that one out some time lol
That kind of mindfudgery is almost amicable if it weren't so scummy!
That's genious!
yeah total bs, that they treated possession equal to ownership. that doesn't fly with me.
If having "access to the keys, and [the ability to] drive the car from the facility" is all they need to claim ownership then why not just let Tom Baker just keep the stupid thing.
Underrated comment
BECAUSE THATS NOT HOW A DOUBLE STANDARD WORKS.
And the moral of this story, before you give your rare 750k ferrari to the government to keep as evidence, take the sparkplugs out of it.
Wouldn't that be the case for any car.
No, take the engine computer.
@@niklasbergvall9656 i like how you think lol,
just don't give it to them. I mean if they ask, then take it depending on your consent and then say that they have "detained" it by being in possession of it and thereby can do what they want with it because of sovereign immunity, then your property can be in danger because of some idiots mishandling your property.
@@loghorizon45 just have a barn and cover it with hay not the ideal lifestyle but hey lol
amazing that the federal government can make GM look like the good guy
Are we surprised?
@@AdotLOM no not really
The immunity shit has to be rained in, it's bulshit that officers can pull this kind of shit and not pay a dime. It's happened a few times before, I know of another case were a guy was on the run from the law and hid in an innocent family' house and the police basically blew it up to get the guy then didn't pay a cent.
@@ChrisAce117 reined*, and no, for better or worse, it’s something we need in order to allow officers do they job properly. Stay in your lane. Don’t speak of things you no nothing about.
@@mtb416 How do those boots taste?
I like how INTEGRITY is listed as a virtue on the FBI's crest.
J wouldn't take you if you salted your steak before tasting
Yeah- Nice, huh?
Integrity can be more than just a character trait…
I was going to scream if the reveal of the auction buyer was Tavarish lol.
That would be quite the plot twist
"peak punnery that makes me proud to be a Pennsylvanian"
THIS is why I love The Roman. Adding alliteration in to that allegory is astounding.
astounding allegorical alliteration
Punnsylvania
@@eckmann88 Ok now I am swelling with pride too.
Sometimes you just need a bulldozer and lot of steel plates
Sometimes reasonable men are pushed to do unreasonable things
*killdozer noises intensifies*
Can Rinaldi & Kline put me in touch with a good place to get steel plates?
So very true...
So a tank without a gun?
So much hand-wringing about whether it was borrowed or taken just shows how ridiculous it is - you have an innocent party's property and you screwed it up. Of all entities to argue they shouldn't have to make compensation - the one who can literally print money.
This was a fantastic story, thank you Roman for all the research and the fantastic Photoshop skills
"This f50 is a Beaut can i take her out for a spin"
Algar Ferrari: "sure just dont drive it like you stole it haha"
"5 minutes later"
Algar Ferrari: *well shit guess i shouldn't of said that*
That wreck picture looks like a nice, sunny day, and it's WAAAY up on the curb. There's no way in hell they weren't doing some stupid shit, no matter how bald those tires were.
I still want some big name lawyer to explain how the concept of sovereign immunity is even constitutional to begin with. Something about 'Congress shall make no law (...) prohibiting (...) to petition the government for a redress of grievances.'
Literally pre french revolution "L'État, c'est moi". Or in more meme-friendly format: I am the law.
That's it. No, really. How could one expect the state to prosecute or judge the state?
Unless... one had separation of the different aspects of the state's power with checks and balances between them... And just like that sovereign immunity died in the 1700s.
Except in places that didn't implement separation of powers right...
@@Peterowsky The Judiciary is independent of the Executive or Legislative. That's how.
The Constitution only has power if enforced.
The moral of the story is as always, never let the cops hold on to your stuff, because you will never get it back.
Oh no the cops can keep your trash alright, but don't let 'em see the shiny stuff!
American "justice" at it's best 😂😂😂😂
This is not my best. Just my effort.
The Swamp At Work..
Very interesting! I graduated from Villanova University this past May and Algar Ferrari was less than a mile from my campus, so I frequently drove by it always amazed at what they had. I had heard about this story but never knew the full details, very good job!
Sweet talk can get everyone anywhere
Like in a casket
It's easy to feel sympathy for an insurance company when the other side is the government
on the flip side, how many cars get stolen every day and are never seen again, the insurance companies still pay out on those. this case was special being as the car got recovered without a scratch and MIC had the opportunity to actually get their money back, but got jipped in the end by uncle sam. $370k at a salvage auction isnt bad considering they could have been out the full $630k or whatever they paid out only for the car to disappear
And then there's what they paid for the legal costs. Those lawyers were certainly not cheap. Wonder what the total cost was... In any case it's a lot of money :/
"Damn it's cold up here, They keep these Ferrari refrigerated?"
Thanks for the morality story.... Stealing is bad. I was thinking of stealing a Ferrari today... you set me straight... This "test drive" dash theft is pretty common with exotics..... I have test drove average cars and exotics. Even a Honda dealer will require you give them your DL which they photocopy, hold your car keys and have a sales person ride along. On the other hand I have been thrown the keys at other dealers... One for sale by owner car I looked at, the guy said he was not home, but he told me the car was in the driveway, un-locked, key on the floor, take if for a test drive. He did not know me from Adam. I just called on a classified ad. I did do the test drive. I passed on the car...
If you would've stole it from the personal owner. You would've been doing him a favor cause he would've got paid off by the insurance company.
@@Turshin 1) it is illegal and subjecting. me to criminal charges. As an airline pilot that would be career ending. 2) apparently you've never made a claim on the car but the insurance companies don't pay full price. Selling a good working car is better than making an insurance claim any day of the week.
@@gmcjetpilot lmao depends on the state and what type of insurance you have. Sounds like you've never heard of agreed value. I'm not promoting insurance fraud in any way. Its definitely illegal but, lots of ppl make cars "disappear" all the time. Like I said may have did them a favor.
@@Turshin Why would you make that snide sarcastic comment I "guess you haven't heard"? I've heard of everything and know more than you. I have a classic car (1967 Camaro). Hagerty. Yes it has agreed value. Your run of the mill daily driver wirh any ABC insurance company is NOT agreed value. Appraised value IS determined at time of loss 100% by the insurance companies AND it is what they say it is. Hard to replace a cars for that price6. Bottom line no one is getting rich off a stolen car insurance payouts. I have USAA (excellent) and pay a very small premium for appraised plus an extra $2,500. When you ask any insurance insurance company what they would pay for a total loss of your car today they won't tell you. You can dispute it, and show values through reputable sources and negotiate. Again my point is you're not going to get rich off of getting your car stolen. Selling a clean used car by owner is almost always more than insurance.
@@gmcjetpilot 1st calm down it's just UA-cam. 2nd you dont know me from the man in the moon so you havent a clue on what I know. 3rd I never said you could get rich from doing insurance claim on a car. Let's say for instance they're tired of the vehicle or behind on payments. You mr. PILOT shows up and steals car. They make claim, insurance company pays for the car. Yes you have to have gap coverage just in case the car is worth less than what you owe on it.
Thanks soo much Roman, I read about the F50 heist a few months ago and it’s blatant stupidity and irregularity was stuck in my mind
Webster define tyranny: cruel and oppressive government or rule, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. Sounds about right.
You can be pretty much guaranteed the district judge had little to do with this decision and it had everything to do with the government having zero interest in having the ruling set a precedent that the government is responsible for their actions and destruction of property, especially in custody. I'm sure they leaned on him extremely hard.
Great storytelling, deserves an automotive journalism award.
I never thought I would be rooting for an insurance company, but here we are
Yep yep....I was commenting on that very same thing...lol
When is Rinaldi's sister getting married again?
Remember kids: There is no difference between the state and the mafia.
Sure there is, the mob won't deal drugs or murder women and children
And the mafia dreams of having the state’s level of power
@@evan12697 A man after my own heart.
Thank you sir!
This was, without a doubt, the most interesting and craziest RCR Story thus far. I like to think that I'm relatively well-informed when it comes to the subject of cars, trucks. bikes, and everything else in the 'moto-world;' you've just demonstrated how uninformed I really am. Yours was not only my introduction to this whole case (shitshow?) but it also left me with some persistent questions that I need to research...What happened to the Testarossa? And the 328?! Were there others?
It's easy to assume that the feds found those cars in response to the initial F50 inquiry (bust), but that wasn't actually addressed in the story.
What if each car was stored away in a different and distinct hiding place? The F50 may be gone but he can still drive a stolen Ferrari w/12 cylinders and a gated manual. Living the dream!
1:19 I'm glad you guys added in the "Not the Fourth Doctor" there. That was fantastic.
*Frisbee is not the Ninth Doctor
Scranton pa to philadelphia...1hr 15min. 1970 bonneville 455 2dr. Lehigh tunnel Was awesome with that 455 Screaming.
Well instead of jailed for weeekends, I'd prefer jailed for the weekdays
I came to RegularCars because of the quirky and fun reviews on regular cars. I have stayed because of Car Stories. Another amazing job
I live 3 blocks away from Algar Ferrari and I've never heard this story before. This is awesome, thanks for the local lore.
Really a crazy story. Most of the time I really couldn't believe how it kept unfolding. Thx Roman for sharing this crazy story and awesome storytelling!
*Tired of hearing about the election, sees this notification* "There is hope for my sanity after all."
Love RCR Car Stories, but this one was up there with the Dale! Great stuff guys👍🏼
As a south eastern Pennsylvania native, I’m thankful I now know this crazy story lol thanks for this Roman, great job !!
RCR: This video.
Also RCR: IT'S A CAR YOU CAN POOP IN
the latter sentence shows his true genius
YES!!!!! One of my favorite automotive stories ever! And it happened in PA!
So, let me get this straight, guy steals Ferrari, sells it, GM steals the stolen Ferrari, then the FBI steals and wrecks said Ferrari, and the district courts just said "Lol it's not yours who cares, we're innocent" still leaving the dealership technically out a Ferrari that should have been returned for the insurance payout.
Good stuff!!
Despite the fact this was resolved?.....almost 10 years ago, I feel this strong urge to get that broken F50 over to Tavarish and simultaneously have Legal Eagle sort through the case documents.
As always, the best content on youtube. Thanks!
Great description and storytelling of these events.
Could you do a RCR Stories on Bruce Meyers, the creator of the Dune Buggy?
"it probably cost the new owner thousands to get the car back to its former glory..." - sounds a bit modest. I can't imagine the repair not costing six figures.
But likely less than the cost of full price.
@@handyec Now this can have 7 digit value, irc this is last car when Ferrari rly produce only xxx cars. Next hyper Enzo 399+1 for pope, is more likely 430+
So good, these are the best!
Haven’t watched an RCR vid in quite awhile, I really enjoyed this. Thank you!
This video deserves a lot more attention
It would have been nice to know if the FBI agent or prosecutor got into trouble for driving the car without a good reason, or if the reason was indeed legitimate... but I guess the FBI aren't likely to leave documents that say that kind of thing lying around...
Is it us feeling bad for the insurance company or us feeling bad for the F50? I mean, how many of us attach a personality to everyday cars we drive? It's not much to assume the F50 was and is an amazing vehicle and with so few made and imported, we all just want to see the car taken care of and justice come to whomever injures it.
Loved this one. Keep up the good work Nick.
RCR > Vin Wiki.
shots fired. roman on a Monday, basically game over for the entire car industry and what it stands for haa
Vin Wiki: im rich and bought expensive car
@Toxic Potato Nobody cares about stories from Ed Bollian and Tim Trollian and Fred Follian and Matt Molian
@@GamerNRetro its that rob i don't like. Boasting how he sold cars to people who can't afford them
@@johnennis4586 they all seem very douchy to me.
The Rinaldi and Klein reference made me openly laugh
Fascinating story. Please do the one about the British Lord who tried to scam his insurance and cut up a bunch of Ferraris...
Amazing story & beautifully told, a real RCR treat!!
finally, another bedtime story
Lunchtime story for me.
Coffee time 7am
Breakfast at work story
Utterly yet morbidly fascinating
Great job. I really enjoyed this story.
By the AWARD-WINNING Roman.
This is where you shin Roman. Well done, more of this.
13:10
Uh-huh. That's what I told my parents when I got into my first car accident.
My ears have just been made Love to ......with the common courtesy of a reach around ! ...........Thank you !!!
I don’t know about you, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading the names of those famous people.
What a strange story; y'all kept me riveted throughout.
(ps- Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Badger from "Breaking Bad?")
"It's seems rare to feel sympathy for insurance companies." and even though this is a miscarriage of justice, I still don't feel sympathy for MIC because they're an insurance company lol
It's like having your poop chute being forcibly split open for years, but finally the entity giving you the BUSINESS slips and breaks its dick in half!
Moral of the story: If you want to steal an exotic car, you have to be the government first.
Thanks for the downtown Dallas footage!
This story is just multitudes of levels of insane
Fredrik Knudsen from Down the Rabbit Hole woulda collab'd with this. Weird stories like this are up his alley
Super job on this video / story!
Nice. Great use of stock footage too, really upping the production values with this one!
Bravo sir I had heard of the FBI crash but did not know the entire story, I also knew about the Bomber crashing into the Empire State Building but did not know 14 people died or a law was made after the incident!
Best thing i listend ti on my lunch break.thanks
So basically, a government official can total anything in their custody and not be held liable, leaving the owner completely on the hook. Real nice.
Yeah, hatred for the government is something that should have brought the "left" and "right" together a long time ago.
Gun owners joke about carrying cheaper guns like Glocks because if it ended up in an evidence locker it won't be as tempting for a cop to take home and keep as a nicer gun.
*except we're not joking, cops do this, they steal antique guns and cars from citizens all the damn time*
Excellent story, as a car lover and someone who doesn't like seeing good people being taken advantage of, I'm intrigued and disgusted. It's wrong how the federal government treated the insurance company.
This is the first time I've ever heard someone reference lethal weapon 2 and I'm very happy
I just reviewed the pre-production Roma at Algar 2 months ago, they of course didn't tell me this story, not their proudest moment. This was a really cool thing for me personally!
I want to give a slightly different account of exactly how the guy got the f50 out of Algar’s possession. This is a second hand story BUT, I will provide these bona fides: my dad knew a couple of guys at Algar, because he bought a car from them and was having it fixed there either very shortly before this happened or at the same time. We lived a mile and a half down the road from Algar in 2003 as well so I remember this happening when it happened.
The story I heard, again, second hand (from my dad who heard it from someone at Algar) is that this guy got into the car with a salesman and took the car on a test drive, salesman in the car. Through some chicanery (the specifics of which I do not recall) this guy got the salesman out of the car while he remained in it. I *believe* he was driving, the salesman was asked to take over and when the salesman got out of the car to switch seats this dude took off.
That’s what I heard. I cannot confirm that it was true. My buddy saw the car that day near a park called The Willows which is near where the theft/switch allegedly occurred, but can’t remember if he saw two people in the car. This was 20 years ago (ouch) so memories have faded.
Good stuff loved the video
RCR stories to me is like lofi music to crammers
no.
Lofi sucks
Great Story,you should do more stories like this,greetings from Croatia ;)
like yosarrian said "that's some catch, catch 22".
This is a good example of how I don't trust the Kelley Blue Book.
I feel sorry for the first victim. Truly not his fault. But not for the idiots who gave this guy the F50. You can't even test drive a base model Corolla without showing at least some ID and drivers license
Makes the Ferrari dealership experience in Scent of a Woman look a lot more believable.
@@12ealDealOfficial right; except I never understood in that movie, they jump from the car being in the show room to Al Pacino driving it. How did he get it onto the street?
High-end dealerships just "work differently". The dealer has to assume if a potential customer is interested in a insanely-priced vehicle, then they must have "F*ck You" money. One might argue that it's worth less to lose a car than to lose a customer at this level.
@@kevinbarry71 The kid was driving it first, but when they got to that industrial part, he switched with Al.
@@12ealDealOfficial I will take your word for it; it has been a long time since I have seen that movie. Still though, not terribly realistic that they let a kid who is barely old enough to drive, if he is old enough to drive, take that car out
"we crashed your car, its your fault"
That was a very entertaining story thank you!
I am suprise it has not been spun in to a move.
wtf did he think was going to happen when he sold it?
Clearly not what actually ended up happening
If I managed to steal an f50 I would start to lose faith in my understanding of the world lol.
@@calvinnefzger3440 that’s a solid point actually.
I heard about this briefly on vinwikis channel but glad to here the whole story. More wild then I originally thought!
This was a great story!
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So Tom Baker portrayed a doctor perfectly because of his charisma? He rode around in a stolen vehicle, too. 😆
I enjoyed reading those names.
I live near Algar Ferrari and never knew it was robbed. Crazy.
Enjoyed this one. Strange feeling to feel sorry for an insurance company.
When a friend borrows your car for something, they don't own it while they're using it
Algar didn't just hand him the keys to the F50. The salesman took him out for a test drive, during the drive the their asked him if he could drive the car. When they switched seats is when Baker took off and left the salesman out in the street.
Just sat down on the toilet, this will do nicely.
Thirty min video? I hope you are feeling alright.
I'm RSVP'ing for Rinaldi's sister's wedding right now! I'm gonna bring my Mom, she'll love to get out of the house.