Another point you missed was the hundreds of people who were assured by their dealerships that their cars were eligible for the program only to receive a call from the dealer saying due to misinterpreted rules and regulations that their car wasn't eligible, so they either needed to come up with the amount of the rebate or bring their new car back. When asked if they could get their old car back? Oh, sorry, we destroyed it, either come up with the money or we take your only method of transportation. Those that lost their new cars? Had a hell of a time finding something to drive due to the shortage of used cars.
Victor Rand agreed, no program would’ve been needed in the first place if GM and Chrysler could just build a good cheap economy car. The Cobalt XFE might’ve fit the bill if they’d have marketed it more heavily.
Stacey David actually did a small segment on “cash for clunkers”. He hit the nail on the head by explaining that this “program” wiped out cheap transportation for people while simultaneously putting them into debt.
Gee. A Govt. program that helped giant Corporatism and helped the Banksters and Wall Street put the average American "Ham and Egger" into further debt and servitude. Say whaaaaaatt?!?!? Fucking disgusting.
The germans said the same thing about their version of "cash for clunkers". The politicians pretended like germans car industry was the moat important thing the country had. And everyone scrapped good vehicles they owned to get into debt when the economy was sluggish and they might not be able to afford payments if their jobs suddenly dropped to 4 days a week.
Cash for clunkers: "Millions of voice suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced..." The program eliminated affordable transportation at a time when people needed it most, at the start of the great recession. Only good part that came of it was watching the slimy car salesmen suffer in the aftermath as car sales suddenly slowed to almost zero.
Don't know that it "eliminated affordable transportation" -- if you didn't participate, you still had your car. That said, the program didn't succeed brilliantly, either.
Who ever scrapped their supra must be absolutely hating themselves now. they missed the opportunity to have a triple digit some 100k bank account balance
i worked for toyota during the cash for clunkers days and i remember seizing the engine on a aurora that had 34k miles and the cleanest exterior i ever seen. i also remember thinking how annoying it was that my shit box celebrity didnt qualify for the program so i was forced to destroy cars that would easily out beat mine in reliability
@@missingremote4388 I had a 94 Jimmy . Fucking loved that truck. I'd still have it if some junkie didn't destroy the steering column trying to boost it.
"The intentions were good" No, they weren't. They knew exactly what game they were playing. While CLAIMING it was for good reasons, eliminating saleable used cars was EXACTLY the goal. The whole thing was a sham...nobody driving an actual deathtrap could afford a new car even with the discounts.
These people who wrote these laws despise vehicles and car culture in general. Whether it’s the dirty blue collar crowd, the pollution, or the freedom a car gives you while rejecting public transportation, they don’t like it. But they figured if we absolutely need cars, we might as well enrich the auto industry and banks.
My 1985 Chevy Chevette survived this automotive chicanery. It's 35 years old and I drive it every single day. Cold starts in the morning...below freezing...she starts right up. Cash for clunkers was an evil undertaking motivated by pure greed.
If i had my 2 door 1982 chevette id buy a drive Trane from a Pontiac solstice and install it in the chevette. 280hp in a car that originally had 56hp. Oh yeah 👍of course id redo the brakes and suspension but it would be a true sleeper.
Same as my 1987 Dodge Ram B250 passenger van. My daily driver and still lives on till this day. Built and purchased in my home city of Windsor Ontario.
Cash for clunkers worked the way they wanted. They gave you some cash so you could go out to buy a clunker instead of holding onto that reliable "gas guzzler".
I'll never forget how much I cried at the Nissan dealership (I was around 9) when my dad traded in his 89 Foxbody for an Altima, under the Cash for clunkers program. Update: Altima is still going strong after 12 years; it's been the most reliable car he's ever owned.
@@LrulestheworldM8 Yeah, he misses it now, he traded it in because he needed a bigger FWD family car. On the bright side the Nissan Altima introduced me to Japanese cars.
@@KRN762 Yes the loss of a few old cars from the used car market was much more sad than the trail of tears where we killed thousands of native Americans when we forced them at gunpoint to walk from land that they had lived on forever across the country to land we were pretty sure wouldn't be worth anything later.
@@fakename287 yeah they should have been left to fail. Can i get handouts when my business starts to fail? Nope. Same with the banks. Now the car companies paid back the money. At least ford did. Either/or Chrysler & chevy did too. Long story short. It was all a scam. Starting from the housing shit to the cars. Hell most of those new cars (at least here in Michigan) were repoed after a while. Yea at 1st it seems cool. But then after a while that payment adds up. Along with our extremely high insurance. Alot of the consumers couldn't afford a new car. But hey. Tell a fool with a lil money (from income tax lol) that well knock 5k off a new 40k car & theyll come running.
So a government policy claiming to be for one thing, which was actually for another thing, did little to solve either problem and made things worse for the general public, while also costing a lot. Yeah, seems par for the course
BadlanderOutsider, that's the problem when you want to please CONTRADICTORY ECONOMIC INTERESTS at the same time...You end PLEASING NO ONE, including the VOTERS you were aiming for...
Something that wasn't mentioned- Presumably, a lot of the older cars were easier to work on (less dealer-locked equipment, computers, etc.), while most (if not all) of the new cars would now REQUIRE owners to visit dealers for a majority of repairs. I hear complaints about this all the time.
Well depends what kinda car we're talking about. I'm not gonna argue that it's not harder these days, but I'm sure I could do majority, if not all repairs on a 2019 Legacy just the same as I can do them on a 2006 Outback. As long as I'd get a basic diagnostic computer which you'll need to reset bunch of things, and headlights and taillights are LED so you can't fix those, and it's full of computers and wires... oh wait
People adapt and so does their equipment. People will continue to work on things, delete bad systems and buy better tools and code checkers to combat this more expensive dealership repair alternative.
@@556johny556 When Cash for Clunkers was going on, only dealerships could get a legal diagnostic computer. It wasn't until 2015 that it was legal to digitally break into your own car's computer.
@@leedesrosiers3382 Exactly. Dailying my 28 year old Volvo 240 that only gets 17-23 mpg is technically better for the environment than running out and buying a new car that can average 25-35 mpg all day long. Whatever gains in fuel economy are made, you still have to factor in the environmental impact of manufacturing the new car (hybrids are notably more damaging, due to the battery packs).
@@tan2ksl153 Especially if you don't happen to be commuting and burning that much anyway, a new car with slightly better mileage isn't a net win for the environment. And newer cars are just damn *heavier.*
The biggest failure of Cash for Clunkers was its argument for environmental friendliness: manufacturing a car takes considerably more resources than driving it for 10 years. You’d need like about 150k miles of driving out of that vehicle to get a net positive impact over just driving your clunker till it’s dead, and many cars simply don’t last that long. Nah. That was just an excuse. It was merely a pork bill for the auto industry disguised as something for the benefit of the environment.
It is another lesson that Government cannot and should not solve problems like this through regulation. And we forget, where do you think the Government gets its money to pay for junk like this.
@@thejunkman no, it's a lesson that we should reject politicians who cater to business interests under the guise of "stimulating the economy". Saying Cash for Clunkers is proof government shouldn't make regulations is like seeing a Ford Pinto as evidence that Americans shouldn't try to make cars.
@@hexane360 I can agree, my comment was maybe a little bit simplistic. But I still stand by the my comment about Government should stay out of the business of "helping" out industries irregardless of party affiliation. Smaller government is all I am saying. Let a company fail or succeed on it's own merits. As we know this was not about helping the auto industry, this was about a political agenda to slowly move towards eliminating choices of types of cars all together. It is a slow process but it was one move towards that direction.
@OCTOOZZY yeah except those EPA estimates back in the day were bupkis based on a lower mph and perfect conditions. According to the old system, I'm sure most current day economy cars would get 60mpg. My Spark gets 60+ at 50 mph. Who drives that slow tho?
....look, there is a reason (s) why I keep coming back to this topic and that is, with everything thing that went wrong with cfc, to never, NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAiN! This is not the purpose of government, I think people need to relearn this, a little over 240 years ago we were trying to get away from this!.
A lot of that is really also more down to culture and whatnot too. Boomer dads learned from their dads how to fix a car, as well as benefiting from public education that still taught you things like home economics, or machine shop. But a lot of them never bothered to teach their kids how to fix a car. Since Timmy was more interested in playing his new SNES or Playstation, (or later, more interested in "surfing the web") and boomer dad wasn't going to FORCE him to learn it. Also cars got more and more complex to fix. A Boomer, when he was a kid, worked on used cars that were way simpler to fix. Hell, my Dad when i was a young kid, had one of thise ill-fated Renault-AMC partnered cars. It was a pretty nice looking sports coupe, and he had to fix it constantly because it would fall apart. At that point though I was too young to have any interest in that, and his work schedule vs my school schedule, prevented that sort of thing from being accessible to me anyway. He traded it in for a 90's ford wagon, which never really needed fixing as long as he had it. And when he crashed it and bought a newer sedan, by his own admission, cars these days are too complex for what he knows, so he doesn't bother. He just takes it to the dealer since it's still under warranty. So I never really had a chance to learn. And by extension, cars also got significantly more boring in the 90's and 00's to me. I grew up on 80's action movies where everything was a box or looked cool, and now everything was blobs and 4banger economy cars. so I tuned out of it till I got a little older in college and started looking for my first used car. (and started watching top gear, which reinvigorated my interest, hah)
Seriously. You can't even argue that they did it for the money. Because there is no way that the Corolla is THAT much more efficient to offset the cost of the car payment
I had a 98 exploder I bought in 2014... I hated that thing with a passion, radiator leaked brake line leaked from rear driver side. the jack rusted when I touched it(as soon as I went to grab it it disintegrated in my hand) and the drivers door didn't lock but that's cool cuz the plastic door handles broke off a few weeks after I bought it on driver and passenger front doors. paid 800 for it and traded it for 400 a oz and a half of good bud and a few other things lol best part of that truck was the day I got rid of it
@@piewackete That was definitely a bad year for those Explorers, not to say there was ever a good year for the Explorer. I know a few family and friends who have owned those and they all tell the same stories, what should be a robust vehicle but ends with random parts like wheel bearings, sensors, and other basic things just breaking and falling apart. Those things are the go-to clunker midsize SUV. I actually quite like the newer body style ("crossover") Explorer that the police have been using lately, good looking SUVs that seem pretty robust.
I am still very mad at my DARE police teachers that came to my school, I remember them telling us when we get a little older people are going to offer me free drugs, this still hasn't happened... All these fuckers want money...
@@nickrustyson8124 Of course nothing is perfect, but a lot of these vehicles still had a lot of life left in them. Seen video of a Ford truck turned in with a straight 6 motor and only 75k miles on it. Those motors will go 300k miles easy.
We took all the old machines off the road and replaced them with computers... computers can be hacked and manipulated... I wonder why they would replace pur analog machines with computers 🤔🤫
Well maintained old cars on the road is good for the environment, poorly maintained newer "appliance" cars traded in every 2 years are bad; old cars being crushed is bad.
That entire beginning part described everything that I wanted when I was 16/17. Wanted something interesting but cheap. Went with a 94 camaro v6. Really reliable and fueled my interest in cars
As a Spanish 19yo teenager in 2022 I can only get some high mileage 98 Corollas because thats all that I trust at the price range, that wont eat my ass in gas budget. God, the 2020s suck to be a car enthusiast Or just to exist
my parents we going to trade in a 1998 ford Explorer limited 5.0 v8 with 76.k on the last day of the program i pulled the fuel pump relay the night before they went for the car wouldn't start they dont know nothin about cars so they missed the program thin the next day i pute the fuel pump relay back in ya.ll can thank me for saving a 2nd gen ford Explorer!!!!! By the way i was 10 years old my grandpa showed me how to not make a car start i drive it today it has 98.k on the odomitor today
Oh the cars I had to kill as a youngster working at a Cadillac dealership in 2008-2009. The horror I saw at the back lot as trade in. So many 80s mustangs (some with less than 100k models. Low mileage Chevy trucks and some actual old school muscle cars.
I hated this program so much. I was 16 at the time when it happened. I remember parking lots full of perfectly good used cars that were going to be destroyed. I was so angry knowing that all of the nice cars would be destroyed in a matter of days. Think of all the great 90s cars that were destroyed!
Thanks for acknowledging the wrecker side of things. The very worst part of it all was the program requiring the engines to be destroyed. They poured in sodium silicate and ran them until they seized. So many good parts that could've kept other ones on the road. The used part market took a huge hit here.
They were all in shit condition though. Most people bought them real cheap because they were in poor condition. These cars are better off having been recycled or restored fully. Plus, they were terrible on gas.
i saw the part were what it was for and was like, bitch tf my moms 69 mustang and model T were 1 owner vehicles and have lasted 20 years, and your telling me they were destroying new cars, not old ones, new ones for when it exarstode
many classics was lost that day , corvettes , old land barges , square body pickups , old muscle , rare cars anything that qualified went without a second thought on what could have been
A guy passed me in a UHaul E-series van, looked like a 2013, going near 60 MPH on a 45 MPH street. A street that turns into a school zone where he had to BRAKE suddenly and almost looked like an unbalanced washing machine as a 5,000 LB van with Uhaul brakes tried to stop. I swear it shook so bad it looked like a 8.5 earthquake on wheels.
That could morph into a nightmare of a diatribe. Starting with the idiocy of giving an average shcmuck a 25' long, 10K lb truck to terrorize public roads with, and ending with the closure of Uhaul of Canada in the early 2000's due to mechanical violations. Then, sprinkle in a little of the dysfunctional family soap opera scandal that is the Shoen family, who started and owns Uhaul. Murder, betrayal, hostile takeovers and boardroom brawls..... And yea, I've been a Uhaul dealer for 25 years, so Ive seen and heard it all, but it never gets boring or fails to horrify!
Back then youtube was flooded with videos of clean 4.0L cherokees and everything else getting blown up with that stuff they had to pour into the engines while wide open until they ate themselves.
Yes and just when we were emerging from the tragedies and disappointments of our 20's, and planning to finish up our degrees by taking night classes...we're furloughed for coronavirus 😑 Dangit world give us a break!!!
The terrible audio and visuals are what told me it’s good journalism. As a human I’m really glad those cars aren’t in the road. Get a used smart car for 2k. With safety features. And a challenge for maintenance. If your sense of reality is based in a car built before you were born…. Stop existing in the service economy and make something. And teach other people how. Whiny asses
@@jrs0123 Just because you have no appreciation for history or things from the past that people still want to enjoy doesn't mean that we should destroy all of it. Also not everyone wants to drive a smart car. Please tell me you are baiting lol
There was a scrap metal boom during this time, sadly watched trailors full of vintage cars and big block engines exetera go to the scrap yard , kinda brought a year to my eye
People generally make fairly sensible decisions for themselves. Government manipulation only serves to force or entice decisions that do not make sense.
So in a recession caused in part by people having too much debt let’s have people buy new cars they can afford less and take on more debt Stupidity of government amazes me. It’s a miracle we didn’t enter a full on second Great Depression
In many ways, the Great Recession was worse than the Great Depression. There's just a high-enough living floor in the US at this point that so many people being pushed below it didn't result in as many deaths.
@@evilkillerwhale7078 Friend of mine is in his 30s now and the resession nearly ruined his life...the company he worked for went under and he went into trucking..he's living with his parents because he cant afford a house on a truckers income, and as he put it "If i'm gonna be sleeping in a truck cab for 7 months a year...there's no point in having a house"
thank god cash for clunkers didn't extend to motorcycles it still upsets me that so many old cars were lost but at least bikes were safe from the whole thing
Should've made a bill to give people money off motorcycle training and purchase in exchange for an old car with 2-3 unused seats, 60mpg is pretty normal for a bike (although Harley's then wouldn't have fit into that haha).
Even then, motorcycles have changed very little over the ages. A brand new Harley Davidson is pretty much the same as one from 50 years ago. But will you ever be able to buy a brand new car with the same look and feel of a genuine car from the 80's? Never again.
One of the early selling points for the bill was that it would boost domestic auto manufacturers production. I'm not seeing a whole lot of GM, Chrysler, or Ford products on the list of replacement vehicles.
The American car manufactures didn't even make much fuel efficient economy cars. The little ones that were made were complete garbage. Japanese cars have always been economy cars.
@@SI0AX not only that, but the cars that people bought from "american" automakers weren't even manufactured in America. Honda and Toyota were manufacturing more of their cars in the USA than Ford or Chevrolet.
@@agoogleuser8219 IKR? The hypocrisy in people bitching about how you "don't support the American economy" when you buy a Japanese car, lol. Many of the "American" cars were made in Canada, Mexico and even Europe.
Max Tonight I bought a 1995 Sentra in 2016 for 900 bucks. It had 180,000 miles on it. I put 27,000 miles on it in 2 years before the timing chain finally gave out. 900 bucks for almost 30,000 miles? Best money i ever spent. I had better cars before and after the Sentra, but considering the outcome, I could honestly say it was the best car I ever had.
There's a lot of not-rare cars that were still extremely sad to see revved at redline until they die. Like the Ford Crown Victoria 5.0 with only 5,000 miles that lasted 3 mins until it exploded when most cars died in under a minute. Or any number of 4.0 Jeeps, including a Grand Cherokee that kept running for two minutes even after the entire front of the engine block exploded off onto the ground.
Potato they weren’t really desirable back then. The crown Vic and 4.0 jeeps are known today for their reliability but it was just another uncool old car back then to most people.
Worth remembering that the late 2000s was kind of the dark ages as far as the car enthusiast went. The tuner boom was in its lull between the bodykits and Eclipses Era to the current Silvias and stanced period, and the American scene was just drag cars and automatic corvettes. Gas was expensive, insurance equally so, and there was an air of disposability around stuff people did at the time. Read back through forums, and you'll find that people threw out what would now br considered clean 240sx shells just because they had minor issues they couldn't be bothered to fix. Hurts to read about now, but that's the 2000s.
Making me shudder, I am lucky enough to have bought a near mint grandpa's car Grand Marquis last year for 3k, so thankful some dumb son or daughter didnt convince gramps to turn it in.
At the time of cash for clunkers I was only 8. Crazy to think how awfully wasteful people were just a decade ago. Don't get me wrong, we still are, but at least the majority of people I know are trying to reduce the tonnage that ends up in landfills.
I was in high school for most of the Obama years, and we sure as hell didn't have enough money to buy a new car even on a trade-in deal. The only reason we were able get my first car was because we bought it from a family member. It was a 90s pickup, that perfect mix between reliability and old-school simplicity (cheap to fix and can fix it myself). With a couple "emissions-related" mods, and by staying out of the pedal, I could get 21mpg (on a rig rated 13 city/16 highway). Fast forward to now, that rig has over 350k miles on it and, if it weren't for a bad ABS module, would still be a daily-driver. Meanwhile, by this point all the new American cars leading up to 2008 are starting to develop all sorts of problems (design flaws and cheap materials, the result of cost-cutting right before the bailout). I know that hindsight is 20/20, but even then they should have seen what was going to happen based on how they set up the program: *The rebate could only be claimed if the vehicle got lower than 18mpg *The rebate could only be applied to new cars that got over 22mpg Because the people who put it together don't logically think things through, the program flopped by contradicting itself in two ways: *The program aimed to boost car sales and keep production going, but that increased production itself creates emissions, conflicting with the secondary goal of the plan which was to curb emissions. *The program encouraged buyers to buy fuel-efficient compact cars, which worked. However, while this appeased their secondary goal, compact cars are on the cheaper end of the pricing scale and have slim profit margins, so this handicapped the effectiveness of their primary goal to boost sales. It tried to accomplish two opposing goals, and it failed at both.
Im a highschool student now... In order to get an at least slightly reliable beater you need 5-6k. I got a 97 S10 with almost 200k miles... Cost me 4k. Used cars are so damn expensive now.
@@dillonh321 What's sad is that reliable cars demand a lot in the used car market, especially Toyotas and Hondas. Doesn't help when you're JUST getting your license and probably don't have enough money for something that'll treat you well. It especially sucks today, kelley blue book has people asking more for their cars than they're worth (rumor has it kbb and other sites like it intentionally inflate values to boost the used car market). The only trick I can think of is finding something that has low resale value (i.e. not a toyota or honda), is fairly easy to fix yourself, has mild cosmetic wear but is functionally in good shape (if the seller wants a bit much but isn't playing the "HURR DURR I know what I have" card, you can use minor damage and wear to haggle him down). If your S10 runs fine and doesn't have any engine or trans issues, I'd say you fared well. Just take care of it and drive it as long as you can.
@@knote4958 Yeah, I don't have any issues with it, the engine was just rebuilt when I bought it. I hope it will last me through my 3 years of college starting next year.
$800 to my cousin in 2000 for a 1987 le van(toyota)Toyota. It was my rescue dog from the vile evil c4k autohalocost. He bought it new and dearly loved it, but delayed shift into overdrive had him thinking it was on it's way out. After all, it 211,000 miles and was 13 years old. I played brass valve instruments since 3rd grade (high school music teacher secretly training us in the bomb cellar so by the time we reach high school we were pro level musicians, my senior year we won every contest we entered, mostly because we entered the field to a cheering standing ovation playing Hawaii 5 O theme with kettle drums on wheels , herald trumpets with hanging banners and beautiful scantily clad teenage flaming baton twerlers with special extra flame fuel because our school was right next to an oil refinery everyone worked at.{"Hey , don't end your sentences with a preposition!} .. ok , that's my English teacher , she's hot because of my improper use of the colon!). Anyway, I knew the tyranny was just suffering from dirty, gucky fluid. Playing those valve instruments all those years made an expert on being sensitive to oil going bad. You want be able to show off and play fast so you get anal about keeping your valves clean as luckily spit. Transmissions can be viewed the same way. I changed the fluid first thing and jt got a little better, I knew I was on the right track and I didn't care that my 800 dollars dream mobile reved up too high sometimes. I liked it, it sounded great! A couple months later , I changed it again & all my fun was gone, the van ran perfect for 16 years until a drunk bitch crashed into it while it minding its own business parked, she didn't even get a ticket cause she was a " pal" of the cop ($lurp, slurp, wham bam thank you mame). But I digress. I'm sure with regular care that super Uber well made toyota van made in a California factory with the quality 👌 control know turned up to 11, could last for 10 forevers!! I could have passed it down to my children ( who look a hell of alot like that cop now that I think about it).
I never really thought about where all the old cars went. I guess I understand why you don't see many 80's and 90's cars anymore. I love watching motorweek retro reviews and seeing so many cool sports coupes like the Isuzu impulse, Geo storm and wondering where all those cars are..
I don't know where you live but I live in the Cleveland Ohio area and we don't see too many of the cars you mentioned nor do we see too many 1993 to 97 Honda delSol s
Many of those cars ended in my country, Mexico. Buying an american used car was a better option than getting a brand bew car here. However the companies forced the goverment to prohibit buying cars with american plates, only allowing a few of them to apply for mexican plates with high taxes and having to comply with many conditions
@@Sully9549 desde 2014 cuando compre mi primer auto a la fecha he tenido muchos coches chocolate, siempre tuve un soft spot por ellos antes que uno nacional, se sienten más especiales, siempre voy a extrañar mi Roadmaster Wagon lt1 de 1996, tenía título limpio pero jamás pude legalizarlo, era como ninguna otra cosa por las calles de la cdmx y el edomex, lo tenía estacionado a lado de un edificio que colapso en el 19s de 2017 y fue el fin del camino para la pobre cosa, se lo vendí tal cual estaba a un tipo de Ecatepec el cual hasta donde vi hace un par de meses aun lo tiene fuera de su casa, pero ya sin motor ni transmisión.
Another thing to note is that this hurt small repair businesses quite a bit. I had a friend who's family owned a small, 4-bay repair shop, once cash for clunkers started, they saw a marked drop in customers and therefore revenue. Instead of squeezing a few more miles out of their 20-year old beater, customers bought a new car, which for the immediate future, needed no service and repairs. It's also noteworthy that about 60% of pollution attributed to the life of a car happens during it's manufacture, meaning that when you drive that new Focus of the lot, it's already polluted more by it merely existing than by driving it. So, it failed pretty hard in that aspect as well. I enjoyed this, it hit all the relevant points and presented them in such a way as to be entertaining and educational, I look forward to more of these.
"327 supra's" That honestly made me tear up for a moment. And I've always wondered what happened to all the 80s and 90s IROC Z Camaros :/ the 86 IROC Z is lowkey my favorite muscle car. Something weird about it draws me to its BOXXY BROWN
Makes me think about all the loud and proud boxy G-bodies that have disappeared from the roads. There are a few gleaming examples left, but their numbers were far larger.
I think far more males aged 18-30 destroyed IROCs than C4C did. These kinds of cars always end up being rare and in demand because they are just made for abuse and destruction by their owners.
@@drippingwax On the contrary, my 1992 wagon has broken down only four times in its entire existence. Granted, of course, one of those times was the abysmally terrible 3.8L V6 throwing a rod (it now has a 3.0). Had they originally ordered a 3.0 instead, it would have been off the road only three times in 27 years.
I’ll never have anything good to say about CFC, because A: the days of the $500 winter beater is long gone, and B: my wife made me sell my beloved Miata when my first kid was born. I sold it to my mother-in-law, with the understanding that she’d sell it back to me in a couple years when our financial situation was better. Well, my MIL promptly turned it in to the CFC program, for less than I sold it to her for.... and then my FIL traded that car in on a Ram pickup...☹️
I had to buy a new work beater last year and it's hard to find a body on frame RWD car anymore because of the CFC. I like the BOF cars because they take lots of abuse and I drive gravel roads daily, along with winter snows. Had to give $3K for a 94 Caprice cop car that would have been 2K before CFC.
@@toyosciocheap beater. Cheap. Even beaten up, rusted out, and barely running people ask way more than they’re worth. Those aren’t cheap beaters, they can take a beating, true. But they aren’t beaters
Scoobert Doobert I think it was a Toyota Corolla originally that was rebadged. The idea behind my statement is that they were reliable cars so long as you changed your timing belt.
@@nandernugget Not really. The closest a Chevy product has any relation to the AE86 chassis is the Chevy Nova that were rebadged Toyota Corolla Sedans. There was an engine option that was the 4AG-E.
Long ago, when I was a kid in the early 2000s, I heard some legend about how in America you can buy a used car for $500 (or less) and this car, with proper maintenance and care of course, will serve you for years and years and in the future may become a collector’s item Then came cash for clunkers and turned the story I heard as a kid into a distant memory...
yeah i remember going to america and such cars being around and food being cheap now those cars have long gone and food is at least 50% more than most of europe
At the time, I had a 94 Grand Cherokee. I was looking hard at doing a trade, but ultimately, the prices for new cars, especially ones with 4WD/AWD were just too much to swing to take advantage. I also looked when DC went belly up and was doing fire sales. Again, only things left on the lots were garbage econoboxes. The used market is still bloated from this garbage and economic downturn. You used to be able to get a decent vehicle for a new driver/beater for under $2k. Now you better have like 5k in cash and hope you don't get burnt on a dog.
Exactly I used to buy cars all the time for 2 to 4K drive them for a while and sell them for exactly what I paid for them and ever got some really cool cars, now your lucky if it even runs decent for 2k and I would argue anything even halfway decent Is creeping closer to the 8k mark.
Last year I bought an 02 firebird, last of the breed, for $700. Perfect shape, nostalgic to drive,even the ac even works. Good use of cash for a clunker
@@pinkamenadianepie8609 I had an 1989 maroon IROC that I traded in late 1997 on the slightly redesigned 1998 LS 1 model Z28. I sure wish I had kept it instead. I never really grew to like the 98 like I did my IROC, which was love at first sight. I'd open the hood on my IROC and that TPI engine was a beauty to look at. And the 98 was pain in the ass to work on.
Give it 5 years =$25,000. Anything economical and reliable will get more expensive and make even the most expensive fuel miser cars look cheap. Fucking government scumbags. Thanks Obama yes my asshole hurts fuck you very much!
As long as a vehicle runs, there's someone out there that needs it. This was a sad video. They intentionally destroyed hundreds of thousands of perfectly good cars to put people in debt while claiming it was saving the environment; disgusting.
Big Auto Corporations: "Government intervention is bad for business!" Also Big Auto Coporations: "We need more government intervention to not go bankrupt!"
....and that went on since the late 70s when Chrysler first went to the government, and also take into consideration on who got the car makers in that position in the first place
I think its more efficient to keep a car poor on mpg and use that car for 10 or more years, instead of buying new car every 3 years costing alot of resources to create the car.
Or even better, invest in actually good public transportation so the old gas guzzler is only occasionally ran for the odd trip here and there. Helps both the environment and the car.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Oh ya, cause I want to sit next to some hairy sjw girl that smells of b.o. and spews her social warrior crap at everyone else. I will keep my car, and help the world warm up. It's been a little cold anyway.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Yes it sure is. I love my country and the freedom I have to make my own choices. If someone wants to get around in a sardine can that's their choice.
@@leskobrandon6950 i agree with you not all not everyone has infrastructure for public transport, these public transport initiatives focus on highly populated areas
Ya I remember "Harry's you pull it" in Allentown PA had about 90% of there cars were from cash for clunkers. They all had white paint on the engines to let you know you can't take parts off the motor. What a shame
It cant come soon enough. Watching "new GM" finally die off will give me immense pleasure. And the selling of its brands will give the future a little bit of hope. Can't wait!
it's super cool if you've been saving your money and have been planning ahead. But yes there might be some interesting investment opportunities coming soon.
@@LrulestheworldM8 The way that GM is today is an insult to the people that made GM what it once was. I m now in my early 60s and I remember a day for almost the first 40 years of my life we had at least one GM car in our family and in sometimes several the cars of that GM were of a time when GM was the largest Car maker and with good reason, Today GM still has good trucks but that's really about it. Today it's not really General Motors but Garbage Motors as far as I'm concerned, The idea of GM going to the Government for a loan bailout was shitting on the graves of everyone who made GM what it was and who kept GM there for decades
My family gave two choices to me and my siblings as a teenager: a Toyota Echo or a Honda Civic. I tried to bargain my way up to an Acura RSX, but alas, no deal. I took the Honda Civic in a heart beat.
I feel a big thing you missed was the more backhanded parts to this, how it was intentional to remove affordable used cars AND THEIR PARTS from the market.
The government buyback allowance was still far lower than the instant depreciation of almost any new car driven off the lot. That's why it never even crossed my mind to utilize the program.
Cash for Clunkers proved a rule that has always been true and should have been foreseen and is continually ignored today with similar programs and ideas. And that rule is this: When you offer people free money, they're going to take it and use it the way they want, not the way you hoped or expected them to.
Speak for yourself, all the great body parts that showed up in the yards helped my brother and I keep our clunkers on the road even longer. Yeah it sucks they died, but they didn't die in vein. There is a practically new Bravada interior in my brother's S10 and we got it for $200. Dash, seats, doors... everything.
So that's why I still see those damn eyesores all over the place. They're reliable enough to survive the apocalypse (and probably several more after that), I'll give them that much. Picture this... I'm sitting at a traffic light, wondering when I'll see the next cool, interesting car. Maybe a 60s muscle car, maybe a Bentley or Rolls-Royce, perhaps even a Ferrari or Lambo! Then I hear this horrible noise, and the putrid stench of burnt oil and coolant fills my lungs as the light turns green and a car passes. It's another 80s Panther platform, the 3rd one I've seen that day. Then I remember... I'm driving one too.
We had it here in Argentina too back in the mid 90's called "Plan-Canje" (Trading plan) which didn't kill the cars the same way they did in the US, but they left thousands and thousands of cars rotting in many acres or gobernment properties. Lots of F100s, C10s, D100-200s, Renault 12, Dauphine, Peugeot 403, 404, early Citroen 2CVs, DKW 1000, etc were lost
I know you did the whole “you buy it because you wanna look like a cop” thing when you reviewed the crown vic but another perspective to look at those cars from is they’re V8 powered cars that broke high school students can afford to purchase and they’re easy to work on and any parts you may need are cheap. Plus reliability wise they’re like the AK47 of cars And most weren’t taken by the cash for clunkers program
89 Ranger owner here with only 190,000 miles! I got it at 180,000 and it's never given me a single issue so far. It slides like a mofo in the rain when the bed isn't weighed down, and the AC hasn't worked in a decade, but I will be driving this truck until the day it dies.
We had the scrappage scheme in the UK which was very similar. We're losing lots of early 2000's cars at a very quick rate now. Many classics have also been destroyed
The UK has a much stricter Vehicle Inspection process as well. One tiny rust spot on the frame of a car instantly defects the car (exaggeration, but you get my point). Coupled with the fact that RHD drive cars have a very VERY limited market outside of certain countries and "enthusiasts," and you can see why UK has very few cars from the 90's and before on the road aside from collectors and fans.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge it's not just all early 2000's cars. There was a case where a 1959 standard 10 was almost scrapped to get money off a new Ford. Lots of older cars weren't that lucky.
in the uk we had the 'scrappage scheme', we lost so many 80's and 90's cars to that in 2009 and now i believe theyre trying to reboot it again to take the rest of the older cars off the road
My whole state is full of them. Something about them just attracts Polish people a lot. Not joking at all, half of the ones I see have Polish flag plastered all over them
Us here, live in a economic run down region. We run cars that are 13 to 19 years old as we have to. My first car was a Land Rover 109 from 1965, 33 years old when i bought it. Still have it and it is in restoration, i will never have a new car.
This killed so much time at work right now I love it! I just finished stocking groceries and dated product listening to this awesome story. This and the Lee Iaccoca Story are my top favs thanks RCR and by the way I still have my 1982 olds delta 88 coupe damn car is the best hand me down from gramps since he handed me a 20 dollar bill for my 5th bday in 1994.
Another point you missed was the hundreds of people who were assured by their dealerships that their cars were eligible for the program only to receive a call from the dealer saying due to misinterpreted rules and regulations that their car wasn't eligible, so they either needed to come up with the amount of the rebate or bring their new car back. When asked if they could get their old car back? Oh, sorry, we destroyed it, either come up with the money or we take your only method of transportation. Those that lost their new cars? Had a hell of a time finding something to drive due to the shortage of used cars.
That's how Walt Griswold wound up with the Family Truckster!
Lol they got fucked real good
dave1135 holy shit
😧😩🤯
I would've told them they should have read the regulations before taking my old car. I don't owe you shit. Sue me.
Absolutely hated Cash for Clunkers, it allowed GM to continue making shit cars among other problems mentioned here.
Victor Rand agreed, no program would’ve been needed in the first place if GM and Chrysler could just build a good cheap economy car. The Cobalt XFE might’ve fit the bill if they’d have marketed it more heavily.
GM and Chrysler should have been left to either figure things out themselves or die.
@@P7777-u7r Or merge.
Birdup4life true
Obama era GMs. Avoid them like the plague
Stacey David actually did a small segment on “cash for clunkers”. He hit the nail on the head by explaining that this “program” wiped out cheap transportation for people while simultaneously putting them into debt.
BERNIE MADOFF = BEN BERNANKIE= XI JINPING
Gee. A Govt. program that helped giant Corporatism and helped the Banksters and Wall Street put the average American "Ham and Egger" into further debt and servitude. Say whaaaaaatt?!?!? Fucking disgusting.
And did it with money stolen from taxpayers. Cant imagine a better way to punish responsibility and reward irresponsibility.
The germans said the same thing about their version of "cash for clunkers". The politicians pretended like germans car industry was the moat important thing the country had. And everyone scrapped good vehicles they owned to get into debt when the economy was sluggish and they might not be able to afford payments if their jobs suddenly dropped to 4 days a week.
The government knew exactly what they were doing, you have to keep putting people in debt so that they are indentured slaves forever.
Cash for clunkers: "Millions of voice suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced..."
The program eliminated affordable transportation at a time when people needed it most, at the start of the great recession.
Only good part that came of it was watching the slimy car salesmen suffer in the aftermath as car sales suddenly slowed to almost zero.
What part of "you won't own anything and you will be happy" leaves anything to the imagination? they're not even subtle anymore.
A Major stain on the Democratic Party and the Obama administration.
like the man said "elections have consequences"
Exactly
Don't know that it "eliminated affordable transportation" -- if you didn't participate, you still had your car. That said, the program didn't succeed brilliantly, either.
Who ever scrapped their supra must be absolutely hating themselves now. they missed the opportunity to have a triple digit some 100k bank account balance
30 supras were scrapped in the uks scrappage scheme including some turbos
They blew an opportunity
i worked for toyota during the cash for clunkers days and i remember seizing the engine on a aurora that had 34k miles and the cleanest exterior i ever seen. i also remember thinking how annoying it was that my shit box celebrity didnt qualify for the program so i was forced to destroy cars that would easily out beat mine in reliability
I kept my 1995 suburban 454 away, from that cash 4 clunkers. I still drive it and maintain insurance on it
Dude stop lying
@@Shonuff42080 I've UA-cam videos of it. It's kept as a second or third vehicle.
@@missingremote4388 I had a 94 Jimmy . Fucking loved that truck. I'd still have it if some junkie didn't destroy the steering column trying to boost it.
@@WavveBoi that's crazy terrible 🚗 I always thought 90's SUVs aren't eyed by thieves.
Selling Geo Metro $20k. No low ballers, I know what I got.
Soon my dude soon.......
@Timothy Clark
Only highway miles to and from church by an elderly lady. Never abused.
Adult owned!
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn Wow, a granny who changes her own tranny fluid. Nice. Never thought I'd hear of one.
AC works, just needs a recharge
"The intentions were good"
No, they weren't. They knew exactly what game they were playing. While CLAIMING it was for good reasons, eliminating saleable used cars was EXACTLY the goal. The whole thing was a sham...nobody driving an actual deathtrap could afford a new car even with the discounts.
I wanted to like your comment but you have 69 likes. Let’s have a moment of silence please
supported by feinstein
The scam artists took serviceable cars off the road and called it "environmentalism". Green washing at it's worst.
Yet another time we can say, "Thanks Obama" but this time it's unironic
These people who wrote these laws despise vehicles and car culture in general. Whether it’s the dirty blue collar crowd, the pollution, or the freedom a car gives you while rejecting public transportation, they don’t like it. But they figured if we absolutely need cars, we might as well enrich the auto industry and banks.
My 1985 Chevy Chevette survived this automotive chicanery. It's 35 years old and I drive it every single day. Cold starts in the morning...below freezing...she starts right up. Cash for clunkers was an evil undertaking motivated by pure greed.
A Chevette wouldn't (or shouldn't have qualified) as the MPG was high.
Not this time obeazy
I miss my '82 Chevette. I got it for free, and it was like being Amish.
If i had my 2 door 1982 chevette id buy a drive Trane from a Pontiac solstice and install it in the chevette. 280hp in a car that originally had 56hp. Oh yeah 👍of course id redo the brakes and suspension but it would be a true sleeper.
Same as my 1987 Dodge Ram B250 passenger van. My daily driver and still lives on till this day. Built and purchased in my home city of Windsor Ontario.
Cash for clunkers worked the way they wanted. They gave you some cash so you could go out to buy a clunker instead of holding onto that reliable "gas guzzler".
I'll never forget how much I cried at the Nissan dealership (I was around 9) when my dad traded in his 89 Foxbody for an Altima, under the Cash for clunkers program.
Update: Altima is still going strong after 12 years; it's been the most reliable car he's ever owned.
Ivan Gomez I’ve got a 93 Mustang I’m fixing up, check my vids.
I feel bad for you. That car was destroyed in a very inhumane way, and then shredded.
What color was your dad's car? I saw a blue notch at the junker's with the orange paint on the engine.
@@CrazyTacky He had a white 5.0 GT with the red accent line, and red interior.
@@LrulestheworldM8 Yeah, he misses it now, he traded it in because he needed a bigger FWD family car. On the bright side the Nissan Altima introduced me to Japanese cars.
The saddest moment in automotive history...
And American history as a whole.
@@KRN762 Yes the loss of a few old cars from the used car market was much more sad than the trail of tears where we killed thousands of native Americans when we forced them at gunpoint to walk from land that they had lived on forever across the country to land we were pretty sure wouldn't be worth anything later.
Blame the democrats.
@@renownedfear187 blame the shitty American car companies which completely fuckered themselves and needed a socialist handout
@@fakename287 yeah they should have been left to fail. Can i get handouts when my business starts to fail? Nope. Same with the banks. Now the car companies paid back the money. At least ford did. Either/or Chrysler & chevy did too. Long story short. It was all a scam. Starting from the housing shit to the cars. Hell most of those new cars (at least here in Michigan) were repoed after a while. Yea at 1st it seems cool. But then after a while that payment adds up. Along with our extremely high insurance. Alot of the consumers couldn't afford a new car. But hey. Tell a fool with a lil money (from income tax lol) that well knock 5k off a new 40k car & theyll come running.
So a government policy claiming to be for one thing, which was actually for another thing, did little to solve either problem and made things worse for the general public, while also costing a lot.
Yeah, seems par for the course
Business as usual as far as the government is concerned
We get the government we deserve, we elect these buffoons.
BadlanderOutsider, that's the problem when you want to please CONTRADICTORY ECONOMIC INTERESTS at the same time...You end PLEASING NO ONE, including the VOTERS you were aiming for...
Vote Democrat! Ugh
Vote Libertarian
Cash for clunkers is basically why I had such a hard time finding a good used car before college
Something that wasn't mentioned- Presumably, a lot of the older cars were easier to work on (less dealer-locked equipment, computers, etc.), while most (if not all) of the new cars would now REQUIRE owners to visit dealers for a majority of repairs.
I hear complaints about this all the time.
Well depends what kinda car we're talking about. I'm not gonna argue that it's not harder these days, but I'm sure I could do majority, if not all repairs on a 2019 Legacy just the same as I can do them on a 2006 Outback. As long as I'd get a basic diagnostic computer which you'll need to reset bunch of things, and headlights and taillights are LED so you can't fix those, and it's full of computers and wires... oh wait
@@556johny556 like the fast charge disabled on a salvage tesla. I rather keep my 40 to 50 year old fleet.
People adapt and so does their equipment. People will continue to work on things, delete bad systems and buy better tools and code checkers to combat this more expensive dealership repair alternative.
There it is again -technocracy creeping to its inexorable conclusion.
@@556johny556 When Cash for Clunkers was going on, only dealerships could get a legal diagnostic computer. It wasn't until 2015 that it was legal to digitally break into your own car's computer.
Cash for clunkers is the main reason why a MK1 Golf GTI costs 30 grand nowadays...
Viriatvs of Lvsitania same reason my K5 in mint condition goes for brand new truck prices lol.
This. This...makes me furious.
That, and driving a 35 year old clunker has far less carbon footprint, than a brand new prius.
_cries in volkswagen_
I WANT MY GOLF
@@leedesrosiers3382 Exactly. Dailying my 28 year old Volvo 240 that only gets 17-23 mpg is technically better for the environment than running out and buying a new car that can average 25-35 mpg all day long. Whatever gains in fuel economy are made, you still have to factor in the environmental impact of manufacturing the new car (hybrids are notably more damaging, due to the battery packs).
@@tan2ksl153 Especially if you don't happen to be commuting and burning that much anyway, a new car with slightly better mileage isn't a net win for the environment. And newer cars are just damn *heavier.*
Press F for all the wonderful cars lost to this horrendous program
Edit: Big *BIG* F for those Supras.
*F*
F
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there isnt enough F's in the world for those 61 Fieros, that were gonna destroy themselves anyways....
The biggest failure of Cash for Clunkers was its argument for environmental friendliness: manufacturing a car takes considerably more resources than driving it for 10 years. You’d need like about 150k miles of driving out of that vehicle to get a net positive impact over just driving your clunker till it’s dead, and many cars simply don’t last that long.
Nah. That was just an excuse. It was merely a pork bill for the auto industry disguised as something for the benefit of the environment.
It is another lesson that Government cannot and should not solve problems like this through regulation. And we forget, where do you think the Government gets its money to pay for junk like this.
@@thejunkman no, it's a lesson that we should reject politicians who cater to business interests under the guise of "stimulating the economy". Saying Cash for Clunkers is proof government shouldn't make regulations is like seeing a Ford Pinto as evidence that Americans shouldn't try to make cars.
@@hexane360 I can agree, my comment was maybe a little bit simplistic. But I still stand by the my comment about Government should stay out of the business of "helping" out industries irregardless of party affiliation. Smaller government is all I am saying. Let a company fail or succeed on it's own merits. As we know this was not about helping the auto industry, this was about a political agenda to slowly move towards eliminating choices of types of cars all together. It is a slow process but it was one move towards that direction.
And Obama was dumb enough to believe CFC was good for the environment.
@OCTOOZZY yeah except those EPA estimates back in the day were bupkis based on a lower mph and perfect conditions. According to the old system, I'm sure most current day economy cars would get 60mpg. My Spark gets 60+ at 50 mph. Who drives that slow tho?
This is also a reason we have a younger generation that is less enthusiastic about cars. Nobody is going to car shows that are eco friendly.
And how can you be excited about cars if all the prospects as your first car are brown Corollas and beige Camrys?
@@556johny556. ..and who ever made a song about a volvo
....look, there is a reason (s) why I keep coming back to this topic and that is, with everything thing that went wrong with cfc, to never, NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAiN! This is not the purpose of government, I think people need to relearn this, a little over 240 years ago we were trying to get away from this!.
Dodge has done a decent job at getting people interested especially around my area. Everybody wants a V8 challenger or stang now.
A lot of that is really also more down to culture and whatnot too. Boomer dads learned from their dads how to fix a car, as well as benefiting from public education that still taught you things like home economics, or machine shop. But a lot of them never bothered to teach their kids how to fix a car. Since Timmy was more interested in playing his new SNES or Playstation, (or later, more interested in "surfing the web") and boomer dad wasn't going to FORCE him to learn it. Also cars got more and more complex to fix. A Boomer, when he was a kid, worked on used cars that were way simpler to fix.
Hell, my Dad when i was a young kid, had one of thise ill-fated Renault-AMC partnered cars. It was a pretty nice looking sports coupe, and he had to fix it constantly because it would fall apart. At that point though I was too young to have any interest in that, and his work schedule vs my school schedule, prevented that sort of thing from being accessible to me anyway.
He traded it in for a 90's ford wagon, which never really needed fixing as long as he had it. And when he crashed it and bought a newer sedan, by his own admission, cars these days are too complex for what he knows, so he doesn't bother. He just takes it to the dealer since it's still under warranty. So I never really had a chance to learn. And by extension, cars also got significantly more boring in the 90's and 00's to me. I grew up on 80's action movies where everything was a box or looked cool, and now everything was blobs and 4banger economy cars. so I tuned out of it till I got a little older in college and started looking for my first used car. (and started watching top gear, which reinvigorated my interest, hah)
Could you imagine being the sad sack that trades in a trans am for a Corolla? Life sucks some times smh
Seriously. You can't even argue that they did it for the money. Because there is no way that the Corolla is THAT much more efficient to offset the cost of the car payment
They could've just waited until that beige corolla went down in value
Or an honest to god fucking Quattro.
The junked Explorers was a big blow to fox body Mustang fans as the1996 to 2001 ones were a good source of cheap Windsor engines and cylinder heads.
They're still plentiful in Illinois
And Tennessee because they're tweakers favorite $500 suv
I had a 98 exploder I bought in 2014... I hated that thing with a passion, radiator leaked brake line leaked from rear driver side. the jack rusted when I touched it(as soon as I went to grab it it disintegrated in my hand) and the drivers door didn't lock but that's cool cuz the plastic door handles broke off a few weeks after I bought it on driver and passenger front doors. paid 800 for it and traded it for 400 a oz and a half of good bud and a few other things lol best part of that truck was the day I got rid of it
@@piewackete That was definitely a bad year for those Explorers, not to say there was ever a good year for the Explorer. I know a few family and friends who have owned those and they all tell the same stories, what should be a robust vehicle but ends with random parts like wheel bearings, sensors, and other basic things just breaking and falling apart. Those things are the go-to clunker midsize SUV. I actually quite like the newer body style ("crossover") Explorer that the police have been using lately, good looking SUVs that seem pretty robust.
@@ixionn563 The older Explorers where much more durable and able to take a daily beating without complaint.
Cash for clunkers. The automotive equivalent of the D.A.R.E. program
I remember D.A.R.E. My classmates and I thought it was a silly way to learn about drugs but we mocked at its way of conveying drugs prevention.
I am still very mad at my DARE police teachers that came to my school, I remember them telling us when we get a little older people are going to offer me free drugs, this still hasn't happened... All these fuckers want money...
Proud D.A.R.E. dropout gang
DARE kept their cool cars, so ............
in other words, the genocide of perfectly good cars.
And a 2nd han
This destroyed the buy here pay here lots as well.
Well perfectly is debatable
@@nickrustyson8124 Of course nothing is perfect, but a lot of these vehicles still had a lot of life left in them. Seen video of a Ford truck turned in with a straight 6 motor and only 75k miles on it. Those motors will go 300k miles easy.
We took all the old machines off the road and replaced them with computers... computers can be hacked and manipulated... I wonder why they would replace pur analog machines with computers 🤔🤫
Well maintained old cars on the road is good for the environment, poorly maintained newer "appliance" cars traded in every 2 years are bad; old cars being crushed is bad.
Actually, that’s not true
@@mangos2888 it's absolutely true.This program was an environmental disaster.
@@ripnandtearingwomp womp 🐱
That entire beginning part described everything that I wanted when I was 16/17. Wanted something interesting but cheap. Went with a 94 camaro v6. Really reliable and fueled my interest in cars
I have a 94 Firebird v6 pretty solid
As a Spanish 19yo teenager in 2022 I can only get some high mileage 98 Corollas because thats all that I trust at the price range, that wont eat my ass in gas budget.
God, the 2020s suck to be a car enthusiast
Or just to exist
Cash for Clunkers aka the Great American Vehicular Genocide.
The GAVG.
The American Vehicaust.
@@olliegoria give this man a 🏆!!!
my parents we going to trade in a 1998 ford Explorer limited 5.0 v8 with 76.k on the last day of the program i pulled the fuel pump relay the night before they went for the car wouldn't start they dont know nothin about cars so they missed the program thin the next day i pute the fuel pump relay back in ya.ll can thank me for saving a 2nd gen ford Explorer!!!!! By the way i was 10 years old my grandpa showed me how to not make a car start i drive it today it has 98.k on the odomitor today
Thank you are my hero!!!!
No problem
Not all heroes wear capes
@@geronimowindow faxx
@@naturalselection9659 I owe you my heart! Thank you so much!!!
Politicians driving luxury gas guzzlers: Hmm, how can we get these plebs to use less of our gas
these are good Roman, I like this one especially.
Yeah, that video on Lee Iacocca saved my ass on writing a term paper last night!
Dog Gone Garage I gotta agree with this. This is amazing. I’m so happy with my Accord.
Yes it’s me dog :p
me: okay, time to go to bed i have school tomorrow and its 3 am, time to go to bed
rcr: r o m a n t i m e
fun fact both gregorian and julian calendars are r o m a n t i m e
Oh the cars I had to kill as a youngster working at a Cadillac dealership in 2008-2009. The horror I saw at the back lot as trade in. So many 80s mustangs (some with less than 100k models. Low mileage Chevy trucks and some actual old school muscle cars.
Is that why it's so hard to find a pre 1985 foxbody?
@@bionicraspberry8067 yup
Did you hold the accelerator to the floor on the cars you killed?
Albert Pintor Yup 😞
Torres 3800 If that were me I would have got angry and quit!.
I hated this program so much. I was 16 at the time when it happened. I remember parking lots full of perfectly good used cars that were going to be destroyed. I was so angry knowing that all of the nice cars would be destroyed in a matter of days. Think of all the great 90s cars that were destroyed!
Thanks for acknowledging the wrecker side of things. The very worst part of it all was the program requiring the engines to be destroyed. They poured in sodium silicate and ran them until they seized. So many good parts that could've kept other ones on the road. The used part market took a huge hit here.
I came here knowing nothing about what Cash For Clunkers is...
...Now I feel a bit bad for some of the cars that got destroyed.
It's a dark time we try to not speak of.
They were all in shit condition though. Most people bought them real cheap because they were in poor condition. These cars are better off having been recycled or restored fully. Plus, they were terrible on gas.
It was an Obamanation
i saw the part were what it was for and was like, bitch tf my moms 69 mustang and model T were 1 owner vehicles and have lasted 20 years, and your telling me they were destroying new cars, not old ones, new ones for when it exarstode
many classics was lost that day , corvettes , old land barges , square body pickups , old muscle , rare cars anything that qualified went without a second thought on what could have been
You guys should review some rental pickups or vans like the ones from uhaul or home depot
$25 for 75 minutes
It is amazing how rough a life those vans live.
A guy passed me in a UHaul E-series van, looked like a 2013, going near 60 MPH on a 45 MPH street. A street that turns into a school zone where he had to BRAKE suddenly and almost looked like an unbalanced washing machine as a 5,000 LB van with Uhaul brakes tried to stop. I swear it shook so bad it looked like a 8.5 earthquake on wheels.
That could morph into a nightmare of a diatribe.
Starting with the idiocy of giving an average shcmuck a 25' long, 10K lb truck to terrorize public roads with, and ending with the closure of Uhaul of Canada in the early 2000's due to mechanical violations. Then, sprinkle in a little of the dysfunctional family soap opera scandal that is the Shoen family, who started and owns Uhaul. Murder, betrayal, hostile takeovers and boardroom brawls..... And yea, I've been a Uhaul dealer for 25 years, so Ive seen and heard it all, but it never gets boring or fails to horrify!
@@84gssteve there must be 25 taco bells a day being de-canopy'd by a U-Haul truck.
Big spender I see, it's all about those Budget trucks lol.
36 1985 Olds Toronados were destroyed. Me sad.
@Henry Gasoline conversions of those engines can be made to withstand drag racing levels of abuse due to the block's thick casting.
Big Al's Bike & Auto bought the rest of them - check out his videos....
My 1990 Troféo made it out alive.
Back then youtube was flooded with videos of clean 4.0L cherokees and everything else getting blown up with that stuff they had to pour into the engines while wide open until they ate themselves.
"Viewers discretion advised"
isn't it that sodium chloride thing that people called liquid glass?
@@suzumr2754 Sodium chloride is salt. The regular, common table salt. What you're referring to and was also mentioned in the video is sodium silicate.
link?
@@mattvelthuizen4864 Just search cash for clunkers engine blow
The Y generation got absolutely screwed their whole youth.
Y generation?
@@inharmsway526 Millenials.
@@adamdean5881 ahh that would be me lol I got my license around this time.
Yes and just when we were emerging from the tragedies and disappointments of our 20's, and planning to finish up our degrees by taking night classes...we're furloughed for coronavirus 😑 Dangit world give us a break!!!
But the boomers have it so much worse because “back in my day, (insert minor hardship here)”
I lived through this, and it was heartbreaking for many car enthusiasts.
It was only 10 years ago 😂 we all lived through it
@@ryanj116 I'm 18, I never got to enjoy cheap cars/trucks.
@@92powerdiesel61 you can still get cheap cars
@@VanBurenOfficial not under a grand cheap, at least if you want to drive it home.
Amen I saw a classic 1988 bmw m5 on a backlot for crushers. Not to mention cámaros and a slew of nice cars not so special
This is was extreamly depressing, that's how you know its good journalism
The terrible audio and visuals are what told me it’s good journalism.
As a human I’m really glad those cars aren’t in the road. Get a used smart car for 2k. With safety features. And a challenge for maintenance.
If your sense of reality is based in a car built before you were born…. Stop existing in the service economy and make something. And teach other people how.
Whiny asses
@@jrs0123 Just because you have no appreciation for history or things from the past that people still want to enjoy doesn't mean that we should destroy all of it. Also not everyone wants to drive a smart car. Please tell me you are baiting lol
The UA-cam videos of cars being destroyed and the list of rare and collector cars that were traded in and destroyed makes me very very sad.
There was a scrap metal boom during this time, sadly watched trailors full of vintage cars and big block engines exetera go to the scrap yard , kinda brought a year to my eye
"We're from the government, and we're here to help." - most terrifying words one can hear uttered...
People generally make fairly sensible decisions for themselves. Government manipulation only serves to force or entice decisions that do not make sense.
Then he fucked up everything and implemented all the grounds for the shit that broke the entire system for regular Joes till this day.
"Best intentions," our narrator says.
Riiiight.
Okay Reagan /s
yep... biden’s gonna “help” us by destroying america as we know it
So in a recession caused in part by people having too much debt let’s have people buy new cars they can afford less and take on more debt
Stupidity of government amazes me. It’s a miracle we didn’t enter a full on second Great Depression
P77777777 it’s coming
lol hold onto your butt
In many ways, the Great Recession was worse than the Great Depression. There's just a high-enough living floor in the US at this point that so many people being pushed below it didn't result in as many deaths.
2021 is when they expect the student loan bubble to finally pop and we will be in for one bumpy ass ride
@@evilkillerwhale7078 Friend of mine is in his 30s now and the resession nearly ruined his life...the company he worked for went under and he went into trucking..he's living with his parents because he cant afford a house on a truckers income, and as he put it "If i'm gonna be sleeping in a truck cab for 7 months a year...there's no point in having a house"
thank god cash for clunkers didn't extend to motorcycles it still upsets me that so many old cars were lost but at least bikes were safe from the whole thing
Should've made a bill to give people money off motorcycle training and purchase in exchange for an old car with 2-3 unused seats, 60mpg is pretty normal for a bike (although Harley's then wouldn't have fit into that haha).
Even then, motorcycles have changed very little over the ages. A brand new Harley Davidson is pretty much the same as one from 50 years ago. But will you ever be able to buy a brand new car with the same look and feel of a genuine car from the 80's? Never again.
@@dentistgubaWhat about a Honda's for Harley's program? Trade in your stupidly loud annoying Harley for a nice reliable Japanese bike.
@@GeneralChangFromDanang Not over my white knuckled hands. Hondas are for cheapos that cant afford a beat up civic.
@@dentistguba that wouldn't prop up and bail out American motor companies at all!
One of the early selling points for the bill was that it would boost domestic auto manufacturers production. I'm not seeing a whole lot of GM, Chrysler, or Ford products on the list of replacement vehicles.
The American car manufactures didn't even make much fuel efficient economy cars. The little ones that were made were complete garbage. Japanese cars have always been economy cars.
Bingo. This program was a miss on every level for the country. It was great for foriegn auto makers.
@@SI0AX not only that, but the cars that people bought from "american" automakers weren't even manufactured in America. Honda and Toyota were manufacturing more of their cars in the USA than Ford or Chevrolet.
@@agoogleuser8219 IKR? The hypocrisy in people bitching about how you "don't support the American economy" when you buy a Japanese car, lol. Many of the "American" cars were made in Canada, Mexico and even Europe.
That’s because American manufacturers don’t want to make fuel efficient cars and American buyers don’t trust American-made fuel efficient cars.
I bought a 1994 Sentra in 2009 for $500. Sold it in 2013 for $1350 two hours after I posted the ad. Oof
Meanwhile I'm tryna sell a running 03 monte carlo for $1200 (very optimistically) double Oof
Max Tonight I bought a 1995 Sentra in 2016 for 900 bucks. It had 180,000 miles on it. I put 27,000 miles on it in 2 years before the timing chain finally gave out. 900 bucks for almost 30,000 miles? Best money i ever spent. I had better cars before and after the Sentra, but considering the outcome, I could honestly say it was the best car I ever had.
Winning!
RIP to all the Grand Cherokee/ Explorers, can barley find or see first gen Explorers any longer.
To be fair, the rollover thing was sort of an issue
I can't imagine how much co2 it probably puts in the air driving my 1st gen 500 miles to find another 1st gen.
Ikr, I never see 1995 explorers. I see so many 1998-2001 ones though. I bet it was due to this. Some of the 1998's were crushed too.
There's a lot of not-rare cars that were still extremely sad to see revved at redline until they die.
Like the Ford Crown Victoria 5.0 with only 5,000 miles that lasted 3 mins until it exploded when most cars died in under a minute. Or any number of 4.0 Jeeps, including a Grand Cherokee that kept running for two minutes even after the entire front of the engine block exploded off onto the ground.
If those cars where so good why nobody bought them for more than 3500dollars from the owners?
Potato they weren’t really desirable back then. The crown Vic and 4.0 jeeps are known today for their reliability but it was just another uncool old car back then to most people.
Worth remembering that the late 2000s was kind of the dark ages as far as the car enthusiast went. The tuner boom was in its lull between the bodykits and Eclipses Era to the current Silvias and stanced period, and the American scene was just drag cars and automatic corvettes. Gas was expensive, insurance equally so, and there was an air of disposability around stuff people did at the time. Read back through forums, and you'll find that people threw out what would now br considered clean 240sx shells just because they had minor issues they couldn't be bothered to fix. Hurts to read about now, but that's the 2000s.
Making me shudder, I am lucky enough to have bought a near mint grandpa's car Grand Marquis last year for 3k, so thankful some dumb son or daughter didnt convince gramps to turn it in.
At the time of cash for clunkers I was only 8. Crazy to think how awfully wasteful people were just a decade ago. Don't get me wrong, we still are, but at least the majority of people I know are trying to reduce the tonnage that ends up in landfills.
Another fantastic installation, Roman! These are always so great and I'm looking forward to the next one
Yessir
installment?
I was in high school for most of the Obama years, and we sure as hell didn't have enough money to buy a new car even on a trade-in deal. The only reason we were able get my first car was because we bought it from a family member. It was a 90s pickup, that perfect mix between reliability and old-school simplicity (cheap to fix and can fix it myself). With a couple "emissions-related" mods, and by staying out of the pedal, I could get 21mpg (on a rig rated 13 city/16 highway). Fast forward to now, that rig has over 350k miles on it and, if it weren't for a bad ABS module, would still be a daily-driver. Meanwhile, by this point all the new American cars leading up to 2008 are starting to develop all sorts of problems (design flaws and cheap materials, the result of cost-cutting right before the bailout).
I know that hindsight is 20/20, but even then they should have seen what was going to happen based on how they set up the program:
*The rebate could only be claimed if the vehicle got lower than 18mpg
*The rebate could only be applied to new cars that got over 22mpg
Because the people who put it together don't logically think things through, the program flopped by contradicting itself in two ways:
*The program aimed to boost car sales and keep production going, but that increased production itself creates emissions, conflicting with the secondary goal of the plan which was to curb emissions.
*The program encouraged buyers to buy fuel-efficient compact cars, which worked. However, while this appeased their secondary goal, compact cars are on the cheaper end of the pricing scale and have slim profit margins, so this handicapped the effectiveness of their primary goal to boost sales.
It tried to accomplish two opposing goals, and it failed at both.
Im a highschool student now... In order to get an at least slightly reliable beater you need 5-6k. I got a 97 S10 with almost 200k miles... Cost me 4k. Used cars are so damn expensive now.
@@dillonh321 What's sad is that reliable cars demand a lot in the used car market, especially Toyotas and Hondas. Doesn't help when you're JUST getting your license and probably don't have enough money for something that'll treat you well.
It especially sucks today, kelley blue book has people asking more for their cars than they're worth (rumor has it kbb and other sites like it intentionally inflate values to boost the used car market). The only trick I can think of is finding something that has low resale value (i.e. not a toyota or honda), is fairly easy to fix yourself, has mild cosmetic wear but is functionally in good shape (if the seller wants a bit much but isn't playing the "HURR DURR I know what I have" card, you can use minor damage and wear to haggle him down). If your S10 runs fine and doesn't have any engine or trans issues, I'd say you fared well. Just take care of it and drive it as long as you can.
@@knote4958 Yeah, I don't have any issues with it, the engine was just rebuilt when I bought it. I hope it will last me through my 3 years of college starting next year.
@@dillonh321 sent your thank you note to obama
They didnt care
This video is honestly too hard to watch, it’s genuinely emotional to me thinking about my brothers being slain.
Hey. You're my first car's older brother. It was a 1997 Toyota Corolla DX 4speed automatic 1.8L
$800 to my cousin in 2000 for a 1987 le van(toyota)Toyota.
It was my rescue dog from the vile evil c4k autohalocost.
He bought it new and dearly loved it, but delayed shift into overdrive had him thinking it was on it's way out.
After all, it 211,000 miles and was 13 years old.
I played brass valve instruments since 3rd grade (high school music teacher secretly training us in the bomb cellar so by the time we reach high school we were pro level musicians, my senior year we won every contest we entered, mostly because we entered the field to a cheering standing ovation playing Hawaii 5 O theme with kettle drums on wheels , herald trumpets with hanging banners and beautiful scantily clad teenage flaming baton twerlers with special extra flame fuel because our school was right next to an oil refinery everyone worked at.{"Hey , don't end your sentences with a preposition!} .. ok , that's my English teacher , she's hot because of my improper use of the colon!).
Anyway, I knew the tyranny was just suffering from dirty, gucky fluid.
Playing those valve instruments all those years made an expert on being sensitive to oil going bad.
You want be able to show off and play fast so you get anal about keeping your valves clean as luckily spit.
Transmissions can be viewed the same way.
I changed the fluid first thing and jt got a little better, I knew I was on the right track and I didn't care that my 800 dollars dream mobile reved up too high sometimes.
I liked it, it sounded great!
A couple months later , I changed it again & all my fun was gone, the van ran perfect for 16 years until a drunk bitch crashed into it while it minding its own business parked, she didn't even get a ticket cause she was a " pal" of the cop ($lurp, slurp, wham bam thank you mame).
But I digress.
I'm sure with regular care that super Uber well made toyota van made in a California factory with the quality 👌 control know turned up to 11, could last for 10 forevers!!
I could have passed it down to my children ( who look a hell of alot like that cop now that I think about it).
"Craigslist being the new time vampire of the workday" SHHHHHHHHH! Quiet! Don't blow our cover!
I never really thought about where all the old cars went. I guess I understand why you don't see many 80's and 90's cars anymore. I love watching motorweek retro reviews and seeing so many cool sports coupes like the Isuzu impulse, Geo storm and wondering where all those cars are..
I don't know where you live but I live in the Cleveland Ohio area and we don't see too many of the cars you mentioned nor do we see too many 1993 to 97 Honda delSol s
Many of those cars ended in my country, Mexico. Buying an american used car was a better option than getting a brand bew car here.
However the companies forced the goverment to prohibit buying cars with american plates, only allowing a few of them to apply for mexican plates with high taxes and having to comply with many conditions
@@Sully9549 desde 2014 cuando compre mi primer auto a la fecha he tenido muchos coches chocolate, siempre tuve un soft spot por ellos antes que uno nacional, se sienten más especiales, siempre voy a extrañar mi Roadmaster Wagon lt1 de 1996, tenía título limpio pero jamás pude legalizarlo, era como ninguna otra cosa por las calles de la cdmx y el edomex, lo tenía estacionado a lado de un edificio que colapso en el 19s de 2017 y fue el fin del camino para la pobre cosa, se lo vendí tal cual estaba a un tipo de Ecatepec el cual hasta donde vi hace un par de meses aun lo tiene fuera de su casa, pero ya sin motor ni transmisión.
Another thing to note is that this hurt small repair businesses quite a bit. I had a friend who's family owned a small, 4-bay repair shop, once cash for clunkers started, they saw a marked drop in customers and therefore revenue. Instead of squeezing a few more miles out of their 20-year old beater, customers bought a new car, which for the immediate future, needed no service and repairs. It's also noteworthy that about 60% of pollution attributed to the life of a car happens during it's manufacture, meaning that when you drive that new Focus of the lot, it's already polluted more by it merely existing than by driving it. So, it failed pretty hard in that aspect as well. I enjoyed this, it hit all the relevant points and presented them in such a way as to be entertaining and educational, I look forward to more of these.
“327 Supras”
*REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
it hurt my soul
"327 supra's"
That honestly made me tear up for a moment.
And I've always wondered what happened to all the 80s and 90s IROC Z Camaros :/ the 86 IROC Z is lowkey my favorite muscle car. Something weird about it draws me to its BOXXY BROWN
Makes me think about all the loud and proud boxy G-bodies that have disappeared from the roads. There are a few gleaming examples left, but their numbers were far larger.
dont forget the ‘85 Quattro...
@@owenb7911 Yeah, that's a 1 in 200 right there, it could've been absolutely junked already though, since Group B cars were fucking deathtraps
I think far more males aged 18-30 destroyed IROCs than C4C did. These kinds of cars always end up being rare and in demand because they are just made for abuse and destruction by their owners.
Cash for clunkers screwed all of us. We lost some of our history. I love old cars and trucks..
This was devastating to the used car market. This removed so many great vehicles from the market and just wasted billions.
I was so angry when i heard about this, it destroyed so many classics here in Finland too!
Benis perkele helvete
Nice one dude. I just smacked my computer screen.
Worst program ever! I miss seeing 86-91 Ford Taurus' on the road.
That is more due to reliability than anything else. Mom's 1988 Taurus broke the day after she bought it!
@@drippingwax On the contrary, my 1992 wagon has broken down only four times in its entire existence. Granted, of course, one of those times was the abysmally terrible 3.8L V6 throwing a rod (it now has a 3.0). Had they originally ordered a 3.0 instead, it would have been off the road only three times in 27 years.
Where government intervenes, disaster arrives..
A republican govt
@@paulpsycho78 Any government intervention is bad, it doesn't matter the affiliation.
I’ll never have anything good to say about CFC, because A: the days of the $500 winter beater is long gone, and B: my wife made me sell my beloved Miata when my first kid was born. I sold it to my mother-in-law, with the understanding that she’d sell it back to me in a couple years when our financial situation was better. Well, my MIL promptly turned it in to the CFC program, for less than I sold it to her for.... and then my FIL traded that car in on a Ram pickup...☹️
I had to buy a new work beater last year and it's hard to find a body on frame RWD car anymore because of the CFC. I like the BOF cars because they take lots of abuse and I drive gravel roads daily, along with winter snows. Had to give $3K for a 94 Caprice cop car that would have been 2K before CFC.
@@seththomas9105 Land Cruiser, 4 runner Pick up
@@toyosciocheap beater. Cheap. Even beaten up, rusted out, and barely running people ask way more than they’re worth.
Those aren’t cheap beaters, they can take a beating, true. But they aren’t beaters
Those f150s are sad because they’re mostly from the 80-97 era which are the best f series made. It’s why bullnoses are super rare now
You’re right, I remember bullnoses used to be everywhere, but I rarely see any on the road now.
@@jackpolack3315 that's because rust ate the body's off
@@thefordmaniac i used to see 80-97 ford trucks here in arizona all the time, not anymore. and its not because of rust..
Geo Prizim? You mean the rebadged Toyota Corolla from back in the day. Bro, those cars ran forever.
Well actually that's the Chevy Prism. The Geo Prism isn't exactly a Corolla. I'm pretty sure it's an Isuzu of some kind.
Scoobert Doobert I think it was a Toyota Corolla originally that was rebadged. The idea behind my statement is that they were reliable cars so long as you changed your timing belt.
@@travisp11 Yeah I just searched it up. The Geo Prizm was the Toyota Corolla Sprinter which means... the Prizm is related to the AE86 which is crazy.
@@nandernugget Yup!
@@nandernugget Not really. The closest a Chevy product has any relation to the AE86 chassis is the Chevy Nova that were rebadged Toyota Corolla Sedans. There was an engine option that was the 4AG-E.
Are you serious? A Geo Prism is literally a Toyota Corolla with Geo badges. It's built by Toyota. It's very reliable.
You missed the fucking point hes talking about an extremely cheap beat up car that's well past its prime. Those things go for 500 all the time
its actually a rebadged Toyota Sprinter.
@@kmena05 which is a corolla
aka old budget corolla that got beat on even harder than it's twin. truly a paragon of reliability and value
Except with the shitty Delco electronics... oh and they were giant pieces of rust and poorly built interiors.
Long ago, when I was a kid in the early 2000s, I heard some legend about how in America you can buy a used car for $500 (or less) and this car, with proper maintenance and care of course, will serve you for years and years and in the future may become a collector’s item
Then came cash for clunkers and turned the story I heard as a kid into a distant memory...
yeah i remember going to america and such cars being around and food being cheap now those cars have long gone and food is at least 50% more than most of europe
"Before chrysler sucked"
What the hell do these words mean? I mean, it's English but..
no he nailed that right on the head lol . 2 words , Fiat , mexico .
Cars built before the 1970s.
Yeah! Wat does that mean? They always sucked! Ha! Ha! Ha!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@OCTOOZZY brutal lmao
Joe I grew up in a 68 Newport and it wasn’t a bad car
At the time, I had a 94 Grand Cherokee. I was looking hard at doing a trade, but ultimately, the prices for new cars, especially ones with 4WD/AWD were just too much to swing to take advantage. I also looked when DC went belly up and was doing fire sales. Again, only things left on the lots were garbage econoboxes.
The used market is still bloated from this garbage and economic downturn. You used to be able to get a decent vehicle for a new driver/beater for under $2k. Now you better have like 5k in cash and hope you don't get burnt on a dog.
Exactly I used to buy cars all the time for 2 to 4K drive them for a while and sell them for exactly what I paid for them and ever got some really cool cars, now your lucky if it even runs decent for 2k and I would argue anything even halfway decent Is creeping closer to the 8k mark.
@@thetechlibrarian inflation
Last year I bought an 02 firebird, last of the breed, for $700. Perfect shape, nostalgic to drive,even the ac even works. Good use of cash for a clunker
I LOVE MY 1996 TOYOTA TERCEL base model AND IM GONNA RESTORE IT GOD DAMN IT
same with my 86 iroc and 1970 f350 tow truck im not letting go of any old classics
I drive an 84 trecel 4wd wagon with 360k miles. :)
@@pinkamenadianepie8609 I had an 1989 maroon IROC that I traded in late 1997 on the slightly redesigned 1998 LS 1 model Z28. I sure wish I had kept it instead. I never really grew to like the 98 like I did my IROC, which was love at first sight. I'd open the hood on my IROC and that TPI engine was a beauty to look at. And the 98 was pain in the ass to work on.
Give it 5 years =$25,000. Anything economical and reliable will get more expensive and make even the most expensive fuel miser cars look cheap. Fucking government scumbags. Thanks Obama yes my asshole hurts fuck you very much!
@@TheHermitHacker my hero
If destroying a decent vehicle makes sense then I’m lost.
As long as a vehicle runs, there's someone out there that needs it. This was a sad video. They intentionally destroyed hundreds of thousands of perfectly good cars to put people in debt while claiming it was saving the environment; disgusting.
Politicians
The AMC Eagles hurt me the most.....
Big Auto Corporations: "Government intervention is bad for business!"
Also Big Auto Coporations: "We need more government intervention to not go bankrupt!"
....and that went on since the late 70s when Chrysler first went to the government, and also take into consideration on who got the car makers in that position in the first place
I was driving home one day and I saw a typhoon on my street! I usually don't like GM but I was so happy to see one still kicking.
I think its more efficient to keep a car poor on mpg and use that car for 10 or more years, instead of buying new car every 3 years costing alot of resources to create the car.
Or even better, invest in actually good public transportation so the old gas guzzler is only occasionally ran for the odd trip here and there. Helps both the environment and the car.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Oh ya, cause I want to sit next to some hairy sjw girl that smells of b.o. and spews her social warrior crap at everyone else. I will keep my car, and help the world warm up. It's been a little cold anyway.
+Ryan Olsen
Your americanism is showing, bud.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Yes it sure is. I love my country and the freedom I have to make my own choices. If someone wants to get around in a sardine can that's their choice.
@@leskobrandon6950 i agree with you not all not everyone has infrastructure for public transport, these public transport initiatives focus on highly populated areas
Ya I remember "Harry's you pull it" in Allentown PA had about 90% of there cars were from cash for clunkers. They all had white paint on the engines to let you know you can't take parts off the motor. What a shame
It always pained me to see all those big block pickups scheduled for destructive engine seizing
super cool that we're headed towards 2008 again
I see you read Jalopnik as well
The similarity is worrying
It cant come soon enough. Watching "new GM" finally die off will give me immense pleasure. And the selling of its brands will give the future a little bit of hope. Can't wait!
it's super cool if you've been saving your money and have been planning ahead. But yes there might be some interesting investment opportunities coming soon.
@@LrulestheworldM8 The way that GM is today is an insult to the people that made GM what it once was. I m now in my early 60s and I remember a day for almost the first 40 years of my life we had at least one GM car in our family and in sometimes several the cars of that GM were of a time when GM was the largest Car maker and with good reason, Today GM still has good trucks but that's really about it. Today it's not really General Motors but Garbage Motors as far as I'm concerned, The idea of GM going to the Government for a loan bailout was shitting on the graves of everyone who made GM what it was and who kept GM there for decades
Nice to know someone else grew up at carmike cinemas. And I cry over cash for clunkers.
Press F to pay respects for the 93 E30 M3s that were victims of Cash For Clunkers.
FusionGaming I just threw up a little. I didn’t know that figure.
What idiot would do that... Oh my God.
I hope those morons who traded-in their E30 M3's realize that they are now worth big $$$!!!
Who would fucking do that they had to have known those were desirable even 10 years ago
@@jacobfleming565 I need to find these morons and make them pay!
Whether you know it or not, this is the perfect blend of documentary info and light hearted entertainment. Well done.
My family gave two choices to me and my siblings as a teenager: a Toyota Echo or a Honda Civic. I tried to bargain my way up to an Acura RSX, but alas, no deal.
I took the Honda Civic in a heart beat.
Why?
I feel a big thing you missed was the more backhanded parts to this, how it was intentional to remove affordable used cars AND THEIR PARTS from the market.
The government buyback allowance was still far lower than the instant depreciation of almost any new car driven off the lot. That's why it never even crossed my mind to utilize the program.
Moment when u register ur car is aprox 10% off MSRP
atfsgeoff
However the demand was much higher than anticipated.
@@paftaf presumably demand came from those who had cars that they were already looking to get rid of, e.g. faults that were uneconomical to fix
Darren Ma
Yes. The program was a “nudge” to motivate people who were on the fence.
I really enjoy the RCR stories series and the format, thank you for producing these.
THE SMART DEALERS FLIPPED THE CARS IN A USED CAR LOT..
@24:00
Cash for Clunkers proved a rule that has always been true and should have been foreseen and is continually ignored today with similar programs and ideas. And that rule is this: When you offer people free money, they're going to take it and use it the way they want, not the way you hoped or expected them to.
Cash for clunkers putting us all into new car debt, and decimating the used car market
Speak for yourself, all the great body parts that showed up in the yards helped my brother and I keep our clunkers on the road even longer. Yeah it sucks they died, but they didn't die in vein. There is a practically new Bravada interior in my brother's S10 and we got it for $200. Dash, seats, doors... everything.
@@knightcrusader you could have got that bravada for like 400...that's how much this fucked the market
I can live with that, if the US car industry produced anything worth owning...
I had a 1988 Mercury Grand Marquis at the time didn't qualify for the CARS program it got a combined mileage of 20 MPG.
So that's why I still see those damn eyesores all over the place. They're reliable enough to survive the apocalypse (and probably several more after that), I'll give them that much. Picture this...
I'm sitting at a traffic light, wondering when I'll see the next cool, interesting car. Maybe a 60s muscle car, maybe a Bentley or Rolls-Royce, perhaps even a Ferrari or Lambo! Then I hear this horrible noise, and the putrid stench of burnt oil and coolant fills my lungs as the light turns green and a car passes. It's another 80s Panther platform, the 3rd one I've seen that day. Then I remember...
I'm driving one too.
OMG! You had something like that in the US too???
In Germany we did and it was called Abwrackprämie 😶😯
Many countries had that.
Government scrappage scheme in UK
We had it here in Argentina too back in the mid 90's called "Plan-Canje" (Trading plan) which didn't kill the cars the same way they did in the US, but they left thousands and thousands of cars rotting in many acres or gobernment properties. Lots of F100s, C10s, D100-200s, Renault 12, Dauphine, Peugeot 403, 404, early Citroen 2CVs, DKW 1000, etc were lost
We had it in Australia too. My first car, a 1989 Honda prelude was $2500 in 2007 for a good exa,ole, these days they are close to $10k for a good one.
Good thing we never had that sort of thing in eastern europe, though we have morons who destroy perfectly good classic cars for no reasons though.
I know you did the whole “you buy it because you wanna look like a cop” thing when you reviewed the crown vic but another perspective to look at those cars from is they’re V8 powered cars that broke high school students can afford to purchase and they’re easy to work on and any parts you may need are cheap. Plus reliability wise they’re like the AK47 of cars
And most weren’t taken by the cash for clunkers program
Most weren't taken by C4C cause many were either still in active Law Enforcement Service or Taxi Fleets.
Plus the interchangability with mustang parts make em epic drag cars with room to boot!
I'm an early-retiree, and even this old geezer would give a decent Crown Vic a good home.
I'm glad I still kept my 87 Ford Ranger, runs beautifully still with 480k miles.
RIP to the other great gems genocided under Obama's regime
89 Ranger owner here with only 190,000 miles! I got it at 180,000 and it's never given me a single issue so far. It slides like a mofo in the rain when the bed isn't weighed down, and the AC hasn't worked in a decade, but I will be driving this truck until the day it dies.
Also, I was in middle school under the Obama regime. It's true what they say about the new administration ruining everything for kids in 2009-2010.
You have the perfect radio voice. Great work. I dont think people know how much research and time it takes to make a video like this. You rock man 😊
We had the scrappage scheme in the UK which was very similar. We're losing lots of early 2000's cars at a very quick rate now. Many classics have also been destroyed
The UK has a much stricter Vehicle Inspection process as well. One tiny rust spot on the frame of a car instantly defects the car (exaggeration, but you get my point). Coupled with the fact that RHD drive cars have a very VERY limited market outside of certain countries and "enthusiasts," and you can see why UK has very few cars from the 90's and before on the road aside from collectors and fans.
I saw this the other day and about threw up. Its disgusting. The UK hasnt learned a damn thing from the mistakes of the US.
Then again, they were early 2000s cars, nothing of value was lost.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge it's not just all early 2000's cars. There was a case where a 1959 standard 10 was almost scrapped to get money off a new Ford. Lots of older cars weren't that lucky.
in the uk we had the 'scrappage scheme', we lost so many 80's and 90's cars to that in 2009 and now i believe theyre trying to reboot it again to take the rest of the older cars off the road
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NOOOOOO!
WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?
VOTE NO!
Cash for clunkers put Kia and Hyundai on the map
And people with shitty credit.
And now they are offering cars like the Kia Stinger and the Hundai Genesis
@@danielnewman6545 nice cars that will be cost $9K in a year or two.
@@auburnalum9019 2 year old kia stinger for 9k? Sign me the fuck up buddy
@@auburnalum9019 wishful thinking that they'll depreciate faster than Mercedes or beamer for that matter..
So THIS IS WHY MY TOWNS INFESTED WITH ALTIMAS
*AAAAAAAAAAAA*
My whole state is full of them. Something about them just attracts Polish people a lot. Not joking at all, half of the ones I see have Polish flag plastered all over them
Us here, live in a economic run down region. We run cars that are 13 to 19 years old as we have to. My first car was a Land Rover 109 from 1965, 33 years old when i bought it. Still have it and it is in restoration, i will never have a new car.
This killed so much time at work right now I love it! I just finished stocking groceries and dated product listening to this awesome story. This and the Lee Iaccoca Story are my top favs thanks RCR and by the way I still have my 1982 olds delta 88 coupe damn car is the best hand me down from gramps since he handed me a 20 dollar bill for my 5th bday in 1994.
The Ioccoca story was good