Tremolo Masterclass Using The Boss TR-2 Pedal
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Learn how to make a basic three knob tremolo pedal like the Boss TR-2 sound like a tube bias tremolo, optical tube and various types of modern tremolo.
Here are some links to the Boss TR-2 and some other similar three knob tremolos that you might want to check out.
Boss TR-2 Tremolo
USA: amzn.to/3DBEgU2
UK: www.andertons.co.uk/boss-tr-2...
Behringer UT300 Ultra Tremolo
USA: amzn.to/3E1elGI
UK: amzn.to/3T6dU2j
TC Electronic Choka Tremolo
USA: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
UK: www.andertons.co.uk/tc-electr...
Here's a mod kit for older Boss TR-2's so that you can adjust the volume if needed: fromelelectronics.com/product...
Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
00:28 - Tube Bias Tremolo
03:36 - Optical Tremolo
06:18 - Modern Tremolo Sounds
09:30 - Solving the TR-2 Volume Drop
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I'm not sure if 'masterclass' is the right word to use in the title for this. There are a lot of tremolo sounds not covered here, it's more about getting the most from a simple three knob tremolo like the TR-2 or TC Choka. Let me know in the comments if you'd like me to do a video going into more depth on tremolo sounds using a pedal with more features than the TR-2. I hope some of you find this useful anyway.
It's right on the money.
Interesting facsimile of the 'how soon is now' tone. Curious how you'd accomplish a really heavy distortion tremolo combo like on REM's 'monster' album
How did you get the momentary effect? From everything I can find, you would either need to mod the pedal, or use an external switch (it looks like you're stomping on the pedal itself so Im assuming that's not happening here).
Im looking to purchase a tremolo pedal soon and this is a make or break feature for me, so Id really appreciate it if you can clear that up. Thanks!
Works for me!! Excellent video.
This was a class... from a Master 😉 Perfect word for me 😁 Thanks. Very good!
Your channel has the vibe of a cooking show but instead of food recipes it’s pedal recipes
This channel is really great. Great real life sounds using standard, popular gear.
I put the TR-2 back on my board cus my cover band is covering "Money". Forgot how fun that pedal is. Also, the deluxe tele sounds very nice
'Nice Demo...I've been trying to re-create the tremolo tones that I used to get from my old Ampeg Gemini Series amps back in the day and the Boss TR-2 does a pretty good job of it. I really don't need anything more than the Boss to get there, it's works for most of the classic rock and country stuff that I'm playing these days. Thanks for the video, 'so easy to watch and listen too! Cheers!!
I’m a touring musician and playing indie rock, pop rock and similar stuff on stage. I bought mine in 15 years ago and still using it. It has every little trick you except from a tremolo pedal and it’s so well built that you can’t kill it. Perfect tool for the job. Thank you.
I really liked this video. I have a TR-2 coming in the mail, and I can't wait to try some of the stuff you showed in this video.
Michael, I’m really appreciating your content, have been going back and watching a few of them
Would be shocked if the TR-2 wasn't modeled after Blackface Fender amp tremolo - your optical tremolo comparison was spot on, could barely tell it had been switched over.
Great video, great review! Just the kind of information I was looking for. The comparison with the actual tube tremolo is great. Thank you!
Optical sounded spot on to the amp. Nice video!
Thank You for exploring this pedal! I usually make "tremolo" effect with the help of a phaser or flanger. And I thought that tremolo is a "one trick pony", but You changed my mind! Great sound examples! Keep going to shoot such videos. Sometimes simple pedals can be very interesting. Greetings from Ukraine!
Thank you! Glad to hear you found it interesting
The TR-2 is a cracking pedal. Not one I use a lot but when it's needed, it always does the job.
Brilliant video, really informative. There's also the rotary speaker setup, maybe not the best but sometimes useful
Michael. Just completed my order for a TR2 following your video! great overview. I have been thinking of getting tremolo pedal for a good while.
Thanks for a great overview, I don't think you can go far wrong with Boss.
Thank you, I learned so much. We live in a world of so many effects, many are never allowed to shine through.
Excellent synopsis. Now using the TR-2 with my '93 Blues Deluxe. I've missed my Bandmaster (sold a while ago), so I purchased the TR-2 yesterday right away after watching this. I was skeptical, but found the TR-2 to be an amazing substitute.
This was very helpful, thank you! A great way of making me excited about my TR-2 again
Great to hear!
Another fantastic video, thank you. Love the TR-2 and paired with the OD-3 = classic combo!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Bd-2 & tr-2!
It makes sense. Over the years it seems every interview I read the folks had one of these for their tremolo needs😂
Beautifully explained as always. Your playing always compliments the point you are trying to get across.
I try my best. Thank you kindly!
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar I am organising a multi channel collaboration video about Boss pedals. Would you be interested in being involved?
Great video all around! Especially enjoyed the rendition of "How Surf Is Now?" in the optical trem chapter 🤙😜
Thanks I enjoyed playing that one too!
Good point about putting time based fx pre trem.
Nice man. You’ve got a gift that inspires the wonder of learning music. Keep it up.
I ended up going with pedal pawn Chicken Quiff. I’m still undecided how I feel about it. It does the spaghetti western thing, which is why I bought it.
Thanks for the awesome demo Michael, I have owned the TR-2 since 1999. I bought it to use for several songs that I wanted to learn and play off the R.E.M. Monster L.P. I run mine after delay and reverb and it works well. Sure there are several other boutique Tremolo pedals out there but the TR-2 is tried and true and has plenty of magic in it for my simple purposes.
I found UA-cam Channel Not Long ago. But i have learned so much about effects and how to use them thanks to you!
After I got the TR-2 I really wasn’t sure why people bothered using anything else. It does so much with so little.
I agree, it's a deceivingly simple design. People are getting keen on tap tempo tremolos and things like that but a lot of the time the extra features just aren't necessary. Having said that, the new Boss SL-2 does look interesting...but that goes beyond tremolo really.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Just bought this pedal a couple months ago and absolutely love it. No volume drop and it does everything I was hoping for and more. Takes the Mesa Boogie F50 to another level as I would have no tremelo option at all w/o it. Much cheaper than buying a new amp with tremelo!
thanks for the overview - I am a newb so quite interesting for my needs/info.
Hi! Greatings from Argentina! Your videos are awesome, very educational and cool stuff. Thanks and best wishes!
Hey, thanks!
I absolutely love your guitar. I’m a sucker for a Tele in that configuration.
I really like the momentary use, it’s very dynamic. XTS has a mod that allows you to hold down the pedal and use it momentarily and conversely, you could also select to have it on all the time and turn off momentarily when you hold the pedal down. Incredibly useful
I use that on my boss flanger, it’s great, luv momentary
I think I've binged watched most of your videos over the last few days. Love the channel, you've single handedly encouraged me to buy an OD3!
Keep up the great work mate!
Awesome! Thank you!
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar I'd love to see your take on what you'd put on a little boss pedalboard. I'm the process of building a little Boss board out of Japanese only pedals. I think two drives, tremolo, delay, tuner, compressor... Should do most gigs!
You know what would sound bludi lovely with that trem... An OD-3... 04:47 YES!!! He never disappoints, does he! Just make your channel logo an OD-3, wear an OD-3 t-shirt and mask!
Great demo!
You've just made me buy one!
Really solid material 👍🏼👍🏼
Man thanks a lot for this video series... Lots of useful information.
You're welcome. Thanks for commenting!
Great video! I think my favorite Tremolo besides the TR-2 is the Danelectro Tuna Melt. Beautiful sounds from such a cheap pedal.
Really Great Video Man.!!❤❤❤
This video will save a lot of headaches regarding pedal tremolo choices. Simple has once again proven to be the most effective. EHX makes wonderful tremolos for the price as well. The only thing that would make pedals like these better would be a Mix knob to make bias tremolo sounds more believable, an easy enough mod if you really want it.
Great video Michael, i've always tried to get that "Gimme Shelter" tremolo sound however i could never dial it with TR-2. I've tried a couple of tremolo pedals but i always come back to TR-2, there is something really special about it.
I think you did a really good job demonstrating what the TR-2 has to offer. That said, it has dropped down a little lower on my list of pedals I'd like to explore further. Not that it isn't great a what it does, but it terms of what I want to do. Thanks for providing the information I needed.
Do you mean out of tremolo pedals?
Which others did you consider?
6:45 Supros are configured this way, spring reverb into their tremolo circuits, and IMO it's a big part of their character as compared to Fenders. Moving the tremolo (or most any mod effect) around in the chain is a great way to shake up the sound!
Another great video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Great review, thank you!
My pleasure!
these days i use my M9 for tremolo but man i do love the TR 2
Thanks for this video Michael, it's really helpful. Out of interest, do you notice any volume drop when using this pedal? I know that used to be an issue with older TR2 pedals and I've read conflicting posts about whether Boss has now fixed this.
Amazing!! Thanks a lot
Thanks great video I know how to use them.
I’m hedging that the TR-2 will be the next Waza issue. Instead of Square wave to sawtooth blend you’ll get a switchable two modes with higher quality sound and stereo out!!! Needs to be metallic green too! The tube bias sounds better hands down.
There is in fact an internal gain trim pot on my newer tr2.
Fantastic video! Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
Boss definitely for tube tremolo. I have the Electro Harmonix Pulsar, but is is more of an effects tremolo, i.e. lots of interesting sounds, than tube tremolo with slow rates and huge modulation. I saw a video comparing the Boss to a Behringer, and the Boss does indeed sound better. No more clones and knock offs for me.
Good choice. The build quality on the Boss pedals feels sturdier too I think. Thanks for commenting!
As usual a very good and interesting video! I'd like to know if you can say since when the "new" TR-2s are on the market, so I can buy one on the used market and don't need to install the trim pot myself.. Also I can't decide wether it should be a TR-2 or a Marshall VT-1. It seems to me like the Marshall does merely the same as the TR-2 but with the perk of having a vibrato mode to choose..
Thanks! I read in a forum that the circuit was updated with the trimpot in 2006 but you might want to try and verify that if you can. Forums are sometimes a sketchy source of information in my experience. The Marshall VT-1 looks cool, although I've not heard one, it has a stereo out too which is nice.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Thanks for that information. I might try the VT-1 first because it's a little less expensive than the TR-2 on the used market. I have several other Marshall pedals and I really like them, good sound and not expensive. They do have that nice feature with the stereo output when used mono: output 1 is just a regular mono, but output 2 lets the effect ring out instead of ending it abruptly. You might wanna demo some of them sometime.
Bravo!
I don't know what it is about tremolo but I find having a subtle amount makes solos really pop, could be bias but idk
Michael whats your thoughts on amps, if I was to get a princeton for mainly using diffrent pedals. Do you recommend a 65 or a 68 reissue? I see you have the 68, did you try both and why fid you get the 68?
Thanks a lot. What do you think about harmonic tremolos????? We miss you
Hey man nice review good job! Question, im plannin buying this one in used condition. I remenber some people complain about a volumen drop on this pedal, what do you think about it?
The reason there is a perceived volume drop is that the tremolo turns your signal on and off. So…half of the signal is removed. Essentially it gives you less overall sound. When I first read that I noticed it and it bugged me but I eventually got over it. It sounds great to me and I’ve compared it to others.
You can also go in and adjust the volume of the internal trim pot R9.
There’s a simple mod where you remove a capacitor C4 I think 🤔. It seemed to open it up but I ultimately went back to a stock tr2. They’re quiet, reliable, and sound fabulous.
I play fingerstyle jazz, could this be used subtly enough to mellow out the playing you think? Great video man.
MICHAEL BANFIELD< how can you get those Jimmie Vaughan Tremolo effects? it sounds like his tremolo decays differently which might have been modified by cesar diaz
Is the shape knob a sine wave when at 12 o'clock? It sharpens/steepens to sawtooth to the left, and then flattens/chps more to the right?
That's my understanding yes.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar I actually looked a little deeper into this. It does not actually do a "sine" wave per se. It starts to plateau off the tops of the triangle until it is a square wave.
What kind of tremolo did the old 60's Vox amps have? Beatles used it on several songs in the '65 to '66 era, but it was usually on a somewhat buried rhythm guitar so it's hard to hear.
I think the original 60's Vox amp tremolos are a different beast entirely. Sort of like Fenders harmonic tremolo in some of their amps...but not. I decided not to include anything on Vox tremolos in this video as it seems like a can of worms that could be its own video entirely. Sorry I can't be more help. Maybe others who are more knowledgeable on electronics may be able to give a better answer...
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Man don't even think about apologizing for a lack of help when you run a channel providing as much help as this lol
I'm considering the Ibanez mini tremolo (blue one) instead of this because it's smaller, has all the same controls plus a volume trimpots on the side; and sounds as good to me. The Boss on the other hand is much more easy to find used cheaply.
The only thing I don't know is about the taper of the Ibanez knobs and if it can go faster or slower. On the paper the Ibanez seems a bit more convenient but I don't understand why almost everyone is still using the Boss... Maybe it's more musical.
I'm not familiar with the Ibanez pedal but I think the TR-2 is so popular just because it's been around for so long (1997) and it's become a bit of an industry standard for tremolo pedals. I would think the Ibanez is likely very similar in sound.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar I think you're right. Anyway no losers here, both will get the job done imo.
Yeah, nice, I have one. What year is it?
was the pedal you used an older one or a new one? Word has it that the older versions have a volume drop... Do you know anything about this?
Tempo tap would be excellent.
4:47 that tone...
It’s a great sounding Tremolo, but I find that there is a significant drop off in volume when using it.
Hi,can i ask you from what year is your TR 2?Is it old with the volume drop?Thanks
I think the labels come off that one but I remember getting it because I it was the very first guitar pedal I ever got, probably around '97 or '98.
Hi,thanks for the answer,so you got this for long years without modifications and volume drop is ok for you?
what kinda wide range humbuckers you got in the tele?
They're the original 70s ones that came with the guitar
removing c4 from the older ones reduces the volume drop. it's the simplest mod you can do.
"Born to Run".
In time. BPM. Quarter note, eight, etc
How can I use it like How Soon is Now?
I'd say an optical or a hard square wave setting is best for the tremolo on that tune.
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Why do tremelo pedals so often come without a level control?
Because they don’t really need them and pretty much all tremolo pedals with preamps provide far too much and have a very narrow range where it does what it’s intended to do. then there are some that change the sound as well. The most a tremolo pedal needs to do is double the signal, so that’s a 3 or 6dB boost maximum.
The other issue is user error, setting a tremolo to a high depth with a triangle wave will create a perceived loss in level because the signal spends very little time at the peak value, so the waveform control on the TR2 and other tremolo pedals is very important, basically as the depth goes up, also move the waveform towards a square wave, obviously this isn’t the sound everyone is after, but that’s where some adjustment comes in. Tremolo pedals with other waveforms allow for some adjustment, so if you’re after a high depth and super smooth, a sine wave will work better than a triangle wave as more time is spent at the peak level in comparison.
A well designed tremolo pedal wouldn’t have a volume control, any boost could be done in conjunction with how the depth and shape are set and not be available to the user at all.
Modern TR2 pedals have an internal trim pot for gain, I'm told.
@@3rdStoreyChemist Thank you. I’ll need to try and understand all that and apply it.
There's nothing modern about that square wave form tremolo. It's what vox offered since they first put that circuit on their ac 15s and 30s in the early sixties.
Very cool video with great explanation of uses and styles. Tremolo is one of my favourites. I used it on a session I did where I played the same accompanying part during the instrumental verses but each time with a different tempo to accentuate alternate rhythmic feels
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Not sawtooth, triangle.
Correct! My mistake, apologies.
The only problem with this pedal is you can never start it from zero phase .. its tempo lives by its own and you can’t tap the tempo which makes it almost useless live with a band.
I know what you mean, tap tempos can be useful if you're using really choppy synth like tremolo sounds and using it only for certain sections of a song. But I find most of the time a tap tempo isn't that necessary for a lot of tremolo sounds, even for songs like How Soon Is Now by the Smiths, Blow up the Outside World and Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Either the song starts with the tremolo setting the tempo for the rest of the band or like on Blow Up the Outside World the tremolo wave form is smooth enough to still sound rhythmic and in time whilst not being theoretically perfectly in time. However if you're going for Slicer style trem sounds then yeah point taken, tap tempo is going to make those kind of sounds much more rhythmic.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar i just like my delay and trem to be in sync with the tempo whenever I use it during the song. And you can tap the delay live for a certain tempo but can’t with this boss tremolo .. so I’m looking for a replacement.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Also I prefer my trem to start from zero phase each time I step on it .. tr-2 doesn’t do it either(
I will have to just live with cheating vibrato out of my flanger. Not quite the same but no room left on the board
If you're running out of space on your board then I might have the video just for you that's coming out tomorrow...
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That's all cool and stuff, but why do you wear the guitar like that????????
Too much talk
Nothing against BOSS - I own several of their pedals - but Source Audio's Vertigo trem blows BOSS's out of the water...
Yeah that looks like a good one. A level control and also a harmonic tremolo mode!