Tremolo Before or After Reverb?
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Should you place your Tremolo pedal before or after your reverb pedal on your pedalboard? Or maybe you should just run your Tremolo between two reverb pedals? So many questions, so many sonic possibilities. In this episode of Tonal Teamwork we explore some of the differences and benefits between running your Tremolo pedal before and after your reverb pedal.
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Guitars used:
Fender Telecaster US
Fender Squier J.Mascis Jazzmaster
Pedals used:
EarthQuaker Devices The Warden - thepedalzone.com/the-warden-v2/
EarthQuaker Devices Afterneath V2 - thepedalzone.com/afterneath-v2/
EarthQuaker Devices Dispatch Master V2 - thepedalzone.com/dispatchmaster/
Stone Deaf Tremotron
Amps used:
Fender Deluxe Reverb 65 RI mic'd with an Aston Origin
One before. One after. My man knows what’s up.
Oooooh yeah. The only way to roll 😊🤘
Nice and very informative video! To me:
- Vintage-style, subtle and rounded tremolo works better *before* reverb
- Modern-style, choppy and slicer-type tremolo works better *after* reverb
I still watch your other Trem at the end video sometimes. This was excellent, really been enjoying moving my Trem around.
You got some beautiful sounds there! I only recently started messing with a little tremolo pedal I have had for a long time but haven't used. This is some tasty inspiration! Thanks!
Man youve come such a long way in such a short Time. Great job man!
That was enlightening! Another awesome tonal teamwork!
Honored to hear that you found the video helpful and inspiring. Thank you 😊🙏
Another incredibly inspiring and helpful video. Cheers!
So honored to hear that. Makes it all worth it ❤
That’s insane! Thanks for this fantastic tip man!
My pleasure, man! I’m just stoked you found the video helpful and inspiring ❤️🙏
That's a really cool idea! Your channel, in addition to introducing me to tons of pedals, has made me want to explore ambient guitar in my own music. You make some pretty amazing sounds on here, and I'd like to try incorporating some of your ideas into my work.
That was beautiful. Thanks so much for the explanation. 🤘
Thanks! Really happy to hear you found the video helpful
Gotta love the Tonal Teamwork vids! Love the chords, love the audio quality, love the sounds, love the ideas. Thanks!!
And I love this comment and your kindness. Thanks for watching and thanks for being awesome ❤️🙏
My very first stomp box was a Boss TR-2 back in 1998, I’ve been all over it for twenty years! Probably my favourite modulation effect :)
Awesome as always, Stefan!
Thanks, dude! Happy you enjoyed it 😊
I always enjoy your great tone and lessons) Thank you so much for you doing!
It always inspires me с:
Thank you soooo much for this! I learn so much from you my guy. Thank you thank you!
I'm stoked to hear you find value and insight in my videos. Thank you!
Thank you for your informative and well presented video. I think you are right on the money. My pedal sequence is Keeley 4 knob Compressor, Mad Professor Royal Blue Overdrive, TC Electronics Alter Ego Delay [original version], Wampler Latitude Tremolo, then Wampler Faux Spring reverb [original model]. The Alter Ego has a wide selection of delay and modulation types that can give me much the same end result as reverb before tremolo before reverb.
I wanna try this now! Thanks for sharing!
Really cool to hear the video inspired you, buddy! ❤️🙏
Love this!!! Before watching this vid I decided I like having both options already, I’ve concluded going RE-2 Space Echo (with ‘verb up) into Harmonious Monk, and then into Echolution 3 & Polara :] nice to see that I’m not alone!!
Just picked up a Diamond Tremolo after doing Tons of Research. I narrowed it down to 3. Stone Deaf Tremotron, Hamstead Soundworks Signature Tremolo and the Diamond Analog Tap-Tempo Tremolo. All 3 are Killer. Now my Question is Before or after Strymon Big Sky. It Sounds Great in both positions. Very Informative Episode. Enjoyed it.
As a fellow tremotron ownner I really admire your beautiful settings nd tones! Excellent job
Cheers, man 🙏
Bought a TC HoF Mini directly after your video and put it in the loop directly before my Tremotron. Love the combination and love that i now have 2 reverbs (a Regular HoF2 after evrything) that work nicely together. Thanks for the tip!
Happy to hear you found the video inspiring, and wanted to be able to do something similar. Hope you create something awesome with it ☺👍
Great demo. Cheers!
Thank you very much!
You're the best ambient guitar player on youtube. Love your playing
And you're the kindest commenter on UA-cam! Thank you so very much ❤
I was hoping you were gonna turn both on, you did not disappoint!
Ha! Happy I was able to deliver 😊🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting, man!
What a nice concept
Thanks!
TONAL TEAMWORK!! My favourite!
Awwww! Thanks. Really happy you dig the show. I love making them 😊
Yeah man, pedal reviews are ok, but what I really love is talking about pedals and sharing tricks and comparing notes
Thanks. Helpful as always.
Awesome to hear! Thanks for watching and commenting. Means a lot 😊
Great tones!
Thank you! Happy you enjoyed the sounds 🙏
thanks, nice insights, great channel
Thank you so much!
I picked up a tr-2 and after watching you video (so good) I put my trem after my ghost echo and before my RV-6. I really like what it gives me. Thank you for your help.
That's so awesome to hear!
I have one before and after. Fulltone is still my favorite for tremolo. With it barely on it adds such a lovely analog goodness that I have only heard from an old fender.
Amazing sound! I just happen to have my board arranged so that the termolo can be put between a delay and reverb! Thank you
Enzo from Meris. Best of the year! Greetings from The Netherlands :)
I agree. It's an amazing pedal
Awesome! I actually never thought about having a tremolo between two reverb pedals, that's just brilliant! Thanks for the tip, my dude.
Happy to hear that the video introduced some new sonic paths for you to take. Have fun, my friend! 😊🙏
Happy to hear that the video introduced some new sonic paths for you to take. Have fun, my friend! 😊🙏
ThePedalZone Thanks! I definitely will! While we're on the topic, have you tried tremolo reverb? Like actual reverb modulated by a tremolo. I think it's a killer effect as well!
Brilliant!! Thanks mate!!
Cheers! Happy you enjoyed it 😊
I love the sounds and textures you're making, man. And I love your enthusiasm! Keep up the videos (and if you're ever in Hawaii come find me and we'll jam) ;)
Thank you very much! That means a lot to me. I would love to go to Hawaii someday 😊
What a fantastic idea for a video series.
The two reverbs with the tremolo sounded ace. I've got some tremolo videos planned for the not too distant future, I think I'll include a bit of that kind of sound.
Honored to hear that you found inspiration here for your own amazing channel. Can't wait to see what you come up with, my friend 😊
We all just want to be HAIRED
always very helpful~
That makes me so happy to hear 🙏
People are talking about tremolo because it's the best modulation effect! 😎 I definitely prefer my trem after reverb because it's more pronounced. Great video, Stefan!
It is indeed a lovely effect. The Tremotron has made me a hardcore Trem user 😂Happy you liked the video, dude. Means a lot to me ❤
This channel RULES!
Oh my!! So extremely kind of you. THANK YOU ❤️🙏
... between two freakin’ reverbs 🤘🏻
Always between two freakin’ reverbs 👌
Most excellent dude
Thank you!
that's brilliant! I've tried to fix that problem in post-production adding a compressor to sustain the tremolo a little longer. Will try this later :)
Happy you found the video helpful, man. That’s all I could ever hope for ❤️🙏
I was skeptical but it sounded great with the reverb before trem. Even better with both. Great pairing!
Super cool to hear that you learned something from the video. Makes it all worth it 😊
I have EHX Oceans 11, which has a 'tremolo after reverb' setting that I love.
Found the same combination by accident.... Using Keeley Hydra with reverb selected first into my amp... Then realized I had the amps spring reverb on also...what a totally immersive and inspiring sound....then switched to the dirty channel on the amp and oh boy !!!!... Love your videos man!!
Three cheers for happy accidents 😊❤
Amptweaker Swirlpool have efx loop with pre/post switch. Perfect pedal for this sort of experiments. The best tremolo fx I ever played, hands down.
Before watching I was like "Duh before reverb it will sustain and be smooth and after Will Be more chopped up sound"
I Didn't realise the fact that the reverb tail keeps the trem going if the trem is after.
Great video keep it up!
Thanks, man! Really happy to hear that the video provided you with new insight and inspiration. All I could ever hope for ❤
Just bought a Tremotron and I was wondering where to place it in the chain. Tried a few different combinations and finally settled it after my Dark Star & Meteore and before my Avalanche Run. Pure pulsating bliss :D
I like to run mine in the effects loop on my jcm 2x12. Definitely last in line, as you have discovered, makes my combo pulse very nice
Very cool! 🤘
It was a revelation to put my trem after my delay, keeping the trem active with the delayed notes and feeding it into my reverb, lush! Then again, two reverbs sounds like a fun idea too! 💡👍🏻
I like the lighting in there.
Thanks, man! 💡🔦🕯
Awesome video, Stefan! I never switched the order around, so I'm going to have some fun with that today.
Honored to hear that my video inspired you to try something new. You’re in for a world of awesomeness. Enjoy, my friend! 😊
Oh man the Tremutron has been on my list ever since it came out! It has everything (including awesome design and artwork!) I could ever want in a tremulo!
It’s indeed a killer tremolo pedal. Hope you get your hands on one soon 😊
@@thepedalzone Didn't you have a Tremotron pedal review on your channel? I can't find it. It had a really cool jam on it. Where did that video go?
Thanks, you just solved my actual problem, tremolo in between two reverb, the first being part of the mono part of my pedalboard and then the stereo part of my pedalboard starts just behind the tremolo
There we go! Sounds like a killer solution. Happy that my video somehow inspired that 🙌
your tone is always 100% its crazy!
Awwww. Thanks, dude 😊🙏
The tremolo pedal sounds amazing...I didn't expect it to sound so good...I wish fractal had a model of this exact one
Tremotron is simply the best tremolo out there 👍
Perfection!
Oh my! Thank you!
Thanks to this viddy I have managed to turn my guitar into a choir. Bonkers.
Wiiiiild! 😃
I always do that! I have the Flint with the trem after the reverb and a surf rider at the end :-)
Awesome! Flint is a nice pedal ☺
Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Yes. Inspiring me to start messing with my trem pedals again.
Honored to hear that the video inspired you. Thank you ❤️🙏
I loved the trem between reverbs! Gotta try it right away. Luckily my amp has some great reverb so I won't need another pedal on my board 😊
Cheers, man! Happy you liked the video and found it inspiring 😊
Love that Squier
Me too. It’s easy to love. One of the best purchases I’ve ever made 😊👍
Muy interesante. Gracias
My pleasure. Happy you found the video interesting :)
Listening to this with sound-isolation headphones gave me vertigo in the best way
Happy you liked it, bud! 😊
Stefan could you do a video on your chord selections, so beautiful! The chords you go to after single note lines are perfect tonally. #Nashville loves you😘
I know this guy
@@genieboots4269 Yes you do! Better than most.
I'm more a fan of the blurred edge, so, trem into reverb. To blurry the edge even more, I like to use a harmonic trem.
a lot of reverbs come with trem-verb settings now, so now you don't need to worry about the order!
Indeed!
Tremotron is, hands down, the best trem out there!
Do you have a pedal chain order video for ambient sounds? I want to replace my pedals correctly. Thanks!
Was looking how to reproduce the Twin Peaks theme ... baritone guitar sound, I think that gets close.
Just realized I need more reverb and tremolo pedals now xD
you just need the one tremolo, the #Tremotron.
4:30 sounds fantastic!
Cheers, man! Kind of you 🙏
I got an astral destiny and I've moved it around and put it in the chain and in the fx loop. Even when I max out the mix and trails, it's like it's just not there that much in my sound. Am I dumb or do I have a defective pedal? Am I expecting too much? It's not a stereo set up...
The tremolotron looks great, but do you ever use your EQD Night Wire? I still haven't found anything as cool as its attack mode. Now I need to try it between two reverbs :)
Sure I use the Night Wire. It's phenomenal. I did a Tonal Teamwork video on using modulation effects after reverb. I used the Night Wire in that one 😊
Fascinating! Any good "affordable" reverbs out there? I'm on a budget😃
Digitech Polara, Tc Electronic Hall of Fame
Nice video man I’m gonna try tho today btw that jazz master guitar sounds awesome it’s all stock or any mods have you made to it I’m thinking about getting one of those
Happy you enjoyed the video 😊 No mods have been made on my Jazzmaster. It’s all stock 👍
Thanks for reply man between the classic 60 vibe Jazzmaster and the one you have which one do you recommend are they the same I’m about to get one don’t know much about it
Thanks for reply man between the classic 60 vibe Jazzmaster and the one you have which one do you recommend are they the same I’m about to get one don’t know much about it
I believe that most Fender amps with built in tremolo and reverb had reverb before tremolo.
Exactly! I think that does make more sense since reverb after tremolo kind of fills in the gaps, kind of mitigating the tremolo effect.
Umm...me again. Hi. Quick question...are those the stock pickups on the Mascis? Gracias. I'll go and play now.
Yup, the Mascis Jazzmaster is all stock ☺
how about when modulation is included in the equation? have you found a preference for where your tremolo is placed, say for example when using the Shallow Water?
Wouldn’t really change anything for me personally. I still prefer Trem after reverb. I imagine you could get a cool lo-fi sound by running it before a Shallow Water though. Nifty studio trick perhaps 😊🤘
great video. wish there was a good stereo tremolo to put it after a bigsky- any tips?
pal macbeth Source Audio Vertigo.
Fulltone supa trem 2. Really awesome panning stereo trem.
Beautiful! What are the chords/chord types you're playing?
Thank you kindly ❤ Not sure of the specific chords, but it's just some random noodling in the key of D/Bm.
I knew I recognized you from somewhere, Do you still work at TC? Great playing always man
Happy to hear you’ve been watching since the TC days, but no, I don’t work there anymore. Really happy you like my new show though and the sounds produced 😊🙏
ThePedalZone Yes sir Amazing!
Could you do a demo of the j macis squier jazzmaster?
I don't really do demos of instruments. I just don't know enough about guitars to justify me doing demos. Plus I enjoy nerding out on pedals way more than guitars 😊But check out my most recent demos. I use the Jazzmaster in all of them. That should give you a decent idea of what it sounds like. It's a great guitar. You get way more than what you pay for.
Can u do tonal teamwork chorus or flanger before or after delay
Sure. Will look into that someday 😊
Adding a delay at the end would do the same thing right?
I'm becoming a big fan of that guitar.
It’s very easy to love 😊
No outro jam?! That's usually the best part!
It’s not a demo. It’s Tonal Teamwork. A different format, based on tutorials 😊
how do you guys combine analog delay and tremolo?
Does the loss of pick attack bother you at all with the Afterneath? It drives me nuts. I do not like the perceived loss in volume when the mix is set at 50%...
Nope, doesn't bother me at all. I want to feel weightless and under water when I turn that pedal on ✌
I would like to get Afterneath so much. Is it still in your board? What do you think of it as a single reverb pedal? Or better to go for blue sky/cathedral (for same price)? I want something dark and ethereal
Well, I'm in the fortunate situation where I have a lot of pedals to choose from. So my pedalboard setups are never fixed. It's a constantly rotating cast of devices that serve the context I'm creating at the moment. But yes, the Afterneath often goes on there. It's an amazing reverb, and it will definitely deliver your dark ethereal ambience. If you want a lot of different reverb types in one unit (Spring, hall, plate, shimmer etc etc etc) then it won't deliver that. It does one thing, but it does it extremely well. If you like what you hear in the demos of it, then you're gonna love it in real life as well.
@@thepedalzone thank you for answer! I came across Walrus Descent for a "decent" price yesterday and immediately grabbed it (doesn't mean I don't want Afterneath anymore 😊). May not be a universal reverb also but amazing for ambient soundscapes. Best luck with your UA-cam and music. Really dig ambient stuff on your channel 🤘
If I ran tremolo and reverb together, I'd have a softer tremolo before the reverb, and use it for volume swells.
Very nice idea
What Jazzmaster do you have? any thoughts on buying a budget Jazzmaster,? BTW, Love what your doing
He uses a Fender Squier JMascis Jazzmaster, all the gear he used is in the description. As for your second question I, my general advice is to try before you buy. Go to a Guitar Center and pick up every Jazzmaster in your budget.
thats a good idea only if in his town has a guitar center, or a decent guitar shop... The Squier are good, but here where i live it costs the same as a mexican fender jazzmaster, their sound is a little bit different, but after all pick the one you liked the most and play the fuck out of her, in the future if you didnt like the sound you can put some pickups and voila, much easyer to chanhe puts than the overall aesthetic.
if you want a jazzmaster and cant afford american or upper, go for this one, in between japan and standard models arent worth it in my opinion
Thanks for responding, could you be very specific about which Jazzmaster that you are referring to?
It’s a J.Mascis Squier Jazzmaster. It’s awesome. Can’t recommend it enough 🤘
Well, guess it’s time for me to buy a second reverb!
Awesome! You can never have too many reverbs.
At least a second!!!
More reverb, more better!
Topi 🤘
Thanks! 😊🙏
After, on a wet-dry setup!
Epic!
Great common sense demo - thanks!
I’m happy to hear everything made common sense 😊👍
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What about with a delay pedal in the mix?
That usually goes before your reverbs, but that's up to you. You can also place tremolo in-between delay and reverb. A lot of people do that.
Honestly tremolo between 2 reverb sounded the best. Now I just need to find a stereo tremolo pedal....
It's the best of both worlds 😊