My six year old daughter was in Karate when we lived in Japan; one day she said she didn't want to go. No reason, she just didn't want to go. I said, "You'd better go call your friends at Karate and tell them you won't be seeing them anymore, because this is how it starts. She got up and went to Karate. About a week later, I packed up my gym bag in preparation for going to the gym, but something really interesting came on TV, so I put my bag down and sat down. My daughter said, "Dad, weren't you going to the gym?" I said that I was but I really wanted to see this show. My daughter replied, "Well you'd better go call your friends and tell them you won't be seeing them anymore." I had no choice but to get up and go to the gym.
My 7 year old son has been doing BJJ for 2 months......This video taught me to keep my mouth shut after his classes. I have been trying to give him tips, and unintentionally focusing on his mistakes and failures. I now realize that I should just let him have fun and progress naturally instead of having such high expectations which will lead to him wanting to quit for fear of disappointing me........thanks for the video.
As a Taekwondo Instructor, the best thing you can do is have conversations with your kid and guide them, but use the instructors as your guide. For example, "I heard the instructor say you need to practice this technique, so you need to practice it every day." This particular piece of advice is just setting an expectation for the kid to practice, but it leaves the instructors in charge of what to practice and gives the kid the agency of knowing what to practice. When I open for our weekend classes, or when I am volunteering before a test to help anyone cram for their test, the best parents are the ones that will say "Ask Mr. Daniel to check your form." They still encourage their kids to practice, but they also leave what to practice up to the instructors, and leave the critique of that practice up to us as well.
As a former instructor myself, it comes down to the teacher. As a teacher, it is your responsibility to make lessons challenging and FUN. Now, I know many of you out there, will say martial arts is not about fun; Yes it is. When something is fun, you study harder, learn more and get a sense of respect for the art. When you look at some of the most amazing teachers out there; are the top instructors boring? Are they brutal? No. They know how to teach their craft, and allow people to learn and experience the challenge, brotherhood/sisterhood and gain that much needed self confidence.
I feel like money is a big part. You guys are right of course how its a process that takes years but a lot of people don't have that kind of money to keep paying over 10 years . I feel that is a big reason why parents take there kids out.
Failing a belt test and being laughed at by the instructors is the reason I quit. I hope they found humor in the missing monthly checks from my parents.
30:18 - YES! I was told that all my life, and now, here I am at 38 years old playing catch-up. I've only been doing jiu-jitsu for 3 months, and already it's been an immense self-confidence booster. Even as a former athlete, I've always been afraid of confrontation. Not anymore! Thanks, Ryron and Rener.
Kids or even teenagers quit martial arts in general when they realize they are not getting any better. Sometimes is their mistake and sometimes their trainer's. No one will quit if they are aware of their progress.
Lots of people get bored, even with progress. At my TKD school, we had one teenager and his mom, the teenager was progressing fast and was close to black belt, but he quit. His Mom's attitude was "well, he lasted longer than I thought he would." Not everyone wants to do the same thing for years on end.
Who thumbs this down? This is a very positive message. Even if a person doesn't like them or the service they offer...the message is far more important.
This is a great video and there are some very true aspects in it. I've been practicing Judo since I was 11 and I'm a black belt and teacher, and it's practically the same thing in this sport. However, there may also be other reasons why kids quit. 1. In my country Judo isn't the most popular sport. Many kids quit because literally all their friends are doing soccer training. Everybody watches soccer matches, almost nobody watches Judo matches. 2. Motivation comes also with success. I think often there's not enough focus on teaching kids techniques thoroughly so they work in competitions. When they lose often, sooner or later they will be gone. 3. Most kids who remain in this combat sport are those whose parents have been or still are pracicing Judo. Food for thought.
This was very useful. A lot of people here are saying that JJ is expensive, I disagree. I mean around a $100 per month per child is a lot of money, but not when you compare to many alternatives. In many schools, for hundred bucks or so, kids can have as many classes as they want, usually 3-4 per week. If kids and parents want to take advantage of that, that's a LOT of instruction for the money. For comparison, gymnastics is a very popular choice. Where I live, for around $125 per month, kids get one class per week, usually between 45 minute and an hour. So per dollar, JJ offers way more fun and physical activity for the kids, teaching skills that transcend the gym and the mat.
Thanks for all of the advice. How about a verbal Jiu-Jitsu Gracie breakdown video that addresses what Rener was talking about, i.e. the disconnect of knowing physical techniques but not knowing how to defend yourself verbally? It sure would help a lot of kids.
I don't see how. I'm 14, started around 12. I go year around except for fall, when I play football, and I love it. Honestly I'm so happy I found Jiu Jitsu. It's defiantly one of my favorite things on earth.
I've been focusing on the bad points that my son does at mui thai without realising it i will now focus on the positive thanks for the videos great help please keep them going 😊
I can not believe that Jordan is 27! Damn time flies. He is a great instructor and a great representative for Gracie Jiu Jitsu. TALK MORE JORDAN, parents need to hear more of your perspective.
Personally when I was a kid I did karate for a couple of year, really enjoyed it and then got bored of it and quit. That was same with all sports I took up, plus the guitar as well. However hard my parents pushed me I had lost interest pre teenage years. I think as a youngster you want to try everything, that's why we jump from thing to thing. Just wondered if anyone else was the same?
I'm 15 now did MAKOTOKAI karate for over 10 years have a black belt 1 dan and play classical guitar for past 7 years. I will start brasilian jiujitsu next week. reasons why i will quit karate is that our dojo moved and I loose too much time (i need to learn and practice other things too) and I want to learn something different because we have better and bigger dojo our lessons became more comercialised and less personable. I love karate tho. Just thought my story is similar to yourse haha :) Peace
LanTheG thanks for sharing, looks like your a very committed individual. Most people quit after a short while including myself. I too learnt classical guitar for about 5 years however the last 3 of those years I wanted to quit but my parents pushed. I stopped playing until my teens when I got into heavy metal, like metallic, got me into electric guitar. Then as my taste change my brother got an acoustic when I was 23 I really got into that. What I'm trying to say is, go for it try a different martial art rather than quitting all together and you'll probably find it will reinvigorate you and give you a strong passion for it.
Thanks for your advice I will start class next monday because we have hollydays at the moment :D I also love metal rock blues punk... but mhost of all jazz :) It saddens me every time parents push kids to do something against heir will :/ but at least you got your skills down. thanks for support.
+LanTheG True that! But I tried a lot of different things with my two nephews and my niece. I found it was easy to find what they do like because they actually remember what you teach them, they concentrate. My niece is really into space so I bought her a huge telescope for Christmas and told my brother its up to him to learn a bit about astronomy and get into it with her. Unfortunately that time is too much of a sacrifice, similar story with my nephews. My brother and sister expect me to do everything so I appreciate pushy parents at times, they just have to be more attuned to their children.
Excellent video. Very timely. Kids have iPods, iPhones, Instagram, Xbox, PS, WiiU and everything is glowing at them at home after long day at school. It's so hard to drag them to the BJJ class from all of this. If only you had all the role-playing exercises on your Bullyproof DVDs. Rener's passion is contagious! Keep it up! Keep the fire! Never fade! Know there are thousands of BJJ students get inspired every day by the videos like this.
Parents need to train also. This helps them identify with what the kid is going through as well as the obvious benefits. My son started karate when he was 5. I started shortly after. I would go to the kids class with him then stay for the adult class. We got our Black Belts together. He is 14 now and has also been training BJJ. He likes it better. I would be training BJJ also but I need a hip replacement. Best thing I ever did was taking him to train.
Great video. My son just started and this is after 2 years of karate that basically slowly killed his soul. His first BJJ class he just opened up, asked questions and had an amazing amount of fun.
"When they feel comfortable, they're gonna want to come back" Same applies if you're four or twenty four tbh. Like a month after starting BJJ I had to go to one academy more local to my house at the time (was on holiday when I started) and I know for a fact if my first lesson had been there I would not have continued. That's because my original academy was a lot better at fostering community. Make people feel like they're welcome and they belong and you see how much easier it is to retain students.
Let's not over look the expense. Most people have 2 children and classes cost well over $100 per month for 2 children. For a large segment of society, that's just not do-able long term.
I pay $159 at travis lutter gym. what they teach you is amazing and very advanced at times. These lessons can save your life. Its all about how much you want it.
Tell me about it, i got 3 kids and they're all in BJJ.
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wow, here (mid-size town in Sweden) judo costs about 35$ per year for kids, and BJJ 47$! Which is of course really cheap. For some reason other more traditional sports are more expsensive.
You can tell my child needs a little more help and has problems keeping still. I wish they would understand my child is slightly different then others. They punish him by calling him out and sending him to the other side of the room alone. I wish I had you guys as his instructors. They are exactly how you explain, just tell them to watch, pair up, and do the moves. There aren’t many instructors so kids don’t always get one on one attention because there’s just too many... but it’s been 2 months and he has never got promoted, while others who signed up after him have been getting promoted. He is definitely a rowdy child but I just thought they would understand, some kids are more rambunctious than others. So happy to see this video, there are actually great instructors out there ❤️ this gives me hope
Sounds like your kid is not ready or you just arent a good fit for that gym. Some are more serious than others. This comment was 11 months ago so I hope you got it worked out.
Here is another reason kids quit Jiu Jitsu. From yelp and google. 1/4/2015 Sadly, I can attest that my son attended the Gracie academy to prevent being bullied for over 6 years. In the end, he was bullied by 3 of his co classmates at the Gracie Academy in Torrance, CA. When this was bought to the academies attention, namely Rener Gracie and Brian Ortega, they opted to side with the other 3 students and branded my son a liability and a bully, after one of the three students mothers threatened the academy in person. These same three boys bullied my son at his educational school for several months, to the point where my son defended himself against these three aggressors. The school ruled my sons actions self defense and he was not suspended (though there is a no fault policy in place).This triggered the a fore mentioned threatening mothers actions at the academy. The Gracie's, as a result of this, labeled my son a bully and sided with the threatening mother.They did this without talking to the school, the other students involved or myself. When I tried to defend my son and enlighten Rener regarding the facts of which he neither sought out or was aware of, he was completely jaded and unwilling to listen.Though he did talk a lot about what the mother that came in had told him. Irritated and unwilling to talk further, he then informed me " I have wasted enough time on this already, and I could have made $700 in privates already". Does this sound like a person who truly cares about children? Having attended for 6 plus years and being a loyal patron, I could not believe what I was hearing. I did not allow Seth to return. I do not wish for him to be instructed by people who lack integrity, real morality or common sense, when that is exactly why they were sought in the first place. I do not recommend any business establishment that places a premium on their bottom line and steps on top of people to get where they are going. If integrity and honor are what you seek, there are many alternatives to this establishment, which are more professional and truly care about the children that they are instructing. I do not recommend this establishment especial for children. You may find yourself in a similar situation to mine and discover that 6+ years of loyalty counts for nothing. Avoid fake people who will not support you or your children in defending themselves against bullies. When the real fight began and Seth used what he was taught and stood up for himself, he did the right thing and he did it right...3 against one and ruled self defense by the school principal. When it was the Gracie's turn to back him up, they tapped to a threatening individual without even getting on the mat. The Gracie's should be completely ashamed of themselves, considering what they say they stand for. Keep it real. Michael Fiore. Business Owner 1/9/2015 In my 17 years as a jiu-jitsu instructor and business owner, this is certainly one of the most challenging and unfortunate incidences we've ever experienced. Seth started at 4 years old, and was an outstanding student. So much so that years later we made him an assistant instructor in kids' classes where he continued to excel. I was surprised when it was brought to my attention that a conflict had occurred between him and another young Gracie Academy student at school, but it was my intention to do whatever I could to help resolve the issue without placing blame (Out of respect for your son's privacy I will not go into detail regarding the actual incident on a public forum). The challenge, however, is that when I have parents of two children offering conflicting interpretations of a single incident, it puts me in a very difficult position. Although I spent a substantial amount of time addressing concerns from both sides, and tried to use my best judgment to find a middle ground, in the end, I was unable to find an amicable resolution for both families. Above all else, I am saddened that after 6 years of friendship, a single misunderstanding caused Seth to be pulled away from the Gracie Academy. If at any point in the future, you can forgive me and the Gracie Academy, our doors are always open, and we would love to have Seth back on the mat to continue the amazing growth and progress that he so positively embraced. -Rener Gracie (Owner/Head Instructor) 1.0 star rating 1/9/2015 Updated review Rener, Isn't it something that I have to publicly do this to make you apologize for what you did and know was wrong? You know exactly what you did and your actions are indefensible. There were 3 students from the academy bullying Seth, not one. The fact is that the mother of only one of the 3 came in and threatened you (i.e. the academy) after Seth was exonerated by the school principal. You told me that she threatened to spread that you had a bully as an instructor and "how would that look?" She was angry and did what angry people do, use poor judgement. When I tried to make you aware of this you became angry and would not even let me speak of the other two boys who attend Seth's public school and the Gracie Academy. I told Brian their names. I even told you that the school psychologist believed she understood why the boys were attacking Seth at school and not the academy. Your response was "I don't believe that" and blew me off. Rener, I was not there at his school when this happened, but neither were you. When you talked with Seth about this at the academy, and did not even ask my permission to do so (which you know I would have done), you violated my rights as a parent. You would be wise not to do that with another parent. Your information about the incident was provided by a mother who has in the past been spreading false rumors about Seth at the academy. I brought this to your fathers attention a year before she threatened you and Rorion said it did not sound important at the time and not to worry about it. Talk with Alex and your father, they will remember. You were not in a difficult position Rener. in truth, you rapidly reacted to being threatened and for your own reasons, did what you did, without letting me properly share the facts of the matter. On the very morning you were threatened and this women lied to you about the facts, you labeled Seth a liability and a bully. Contrary to what you stated, I was not allowed to defend my son. You rushed to judgement and said things that were abominable, like "having wasted too much time already on this" and the reference to money and private classes. I wish there were a misunderstanding, but there is only the truth of what happened. You try to impress that we are friend and you are sorry for what happened. If that is so, why have you allowed Seth to be away for 10 months without a word or care? It's simple, you, Brian and your family simply don't care. Which is exactly why I don't recommend your establishment to anyone. You only pretend to care when it fits your business paradigm, which is no way to run a business and runs contrary to what you preach to everyone. I thought I knew your father well enough to know that he would not condone this type of behavior. Perhaps I was wrong. I appreciate everything that the academy did for Seth, but your past actions reflect your true mentality. Of the harm that you have caused to Seth, I will only say this, he is still in therapy and has had suicidal thoughts. You and Brian lack faith in your teachings. He was trained for years on what to do when being faced with a bullying situation. He was an assistant instructor. He did the right thing Rener. I wish I could say the same for you. I accept your apology, but too much harm has already been done. I pray you gain some wisdom from all of this.
if all parties decide you kid has "issues" maybe its YOU KID! a lot of parents have a hard time seeing their own blind spots-no one should be bullied but when 3 kids and the instructors say it, you may want to evaluate it. some strong personality kids need to be checked and put into their place, this is not only uncomfortable, but necessary. Depending on the depth of the kids crapy behavior, stubborn nature , etc...this balance is very hard to get as an instructor. sometimes they break, and don't come back due to the codling of the parents that installed this behavior in the first place. when the world is saying your wrong you maybe a pioneer(1%) or......simply wrong. (90%)
To be fair, this is just an isolated incident. I STRONGLY believe that the Gracie family absolutely appreciate and love each and every one of their students. Perhaps if the parent went to the academy after being reinvited by Rener, they would've resolved the situation and Seth would've continued his training... Like Rener said, it was a very difficult situation on his part and maybe he didn't make the best of choices. Plus, maybe Rener told the parent these things (which we don't even know are true) because the parent is a complete dickhead. Maybe he was being really annoying and unreasonable towards Rener. Direct proof of that is the fact that the parent said that it was THE ACADEMY'S fault that Seth is having suicidal thoughts. Such a dick move. Don't blame the establishment, blame the 3 kids and their parents. Why didn't the parent go to the kids' parents directly and had a chat with them? Why try to resolve the situation THROUGH the academy? No real point to it...
Kids and people quit for various reasons. They want to do something different. Their family cannot afford to send them anymore. They don't want to get thrown around, choked, and placed in submissions anymore. They've learned all that they wanted to. And so on.
When I was out of town, I hit up the local BJJ to train. Before class was a kids class and it was bad - the instructors had maybe a dozen kids around 7 to 10 years old. The instructors were showing moves like an adult class for 15 minutes and showing moves and talking about what it's worth in points in competition. Most the kids were bored, a couple started running around. It didn't look fun at all.
The hard phase of 12-13years old made me quit soccer so i can relate 100% to this... even tho it was self defense or combat sports related i gained a lot of confidence from the sport itself already but felt like losing this confidence when i quit. so even if your kid does other sports and wants to quit at this critical age dont let them!
Well Said. Two of my Three kids are practicing BJJ both are 3rd degree white belts. Aged 7 and 11. They are involved in other sports, Hockey, Baseball, Basketball, Lacrosse. I try not to be a coach and just enjoy the ride. Letting them know that I enjoy watching them. I also try to give them my full attention. Meaning I stay off my phone and from time to time take some photos of them in the moment. Hockey Canada also believes kids stop playing hockey in Canada for much the same reason. Parents become to involved in trying to coach from the stands.
Just Watched This; Good Video, thank you guys. Very insightful to hear how you guys were brought up in Jiu Jitsu as a more playful & spontaneous environment (childlike) - to associate joy to it and build organic, genuine interest, Vs. A regimen, militant, discipline, forcefull approach - generally leads to disinterest, rebelliousness, and not stocking with it... This was not how I would have imagined you guys would have brought up in Jiu Jitsu. Very insightful in ANY Endeavor in Life worth pursuing to become the best versions of ourselves. How to build genuine, organic interest that will last a lifetime, especially from a young age. Priceless Thank You Guys -Alex
👍🏻 Video. So everything you said about what parents do and say to their child after their class I’m guilty of. Ugh. I’m going to take your advice and just let my little guy know how much I enjoy watching him do Jiu-Jitsu and keep it simple and positive. Thanks guys.
I can tell you, I fist watched this video 5 years ago and it was an eye opener for me. At the time, my son was 7 and I was on his ass all of the time. I would watch every class, and he was always looking over at me for approval. After watching this video I decided to completely stay off of his case, and only give him positive feedback and ask if he had fun. I stopped watching his classes and mostly just started dropping him off and picking him up. It’s now 5 years later and he is almost 13 and still going strong. Now I notice all of the asshole dads talking down to their kids and getting overly involved ……I just shake my head and watch them quit 1 by 1. I’ve literally seen about 100 kids come and go over the last 5 years.
In order to encourage the Kids to practice Jiu Jit Su, it is from parents or guardian. To encourage the kids. My dad persuaded me the learning Martial Arts when I was 5 year old, and now my kid started when she was 3.5 year old , she is now 13.5. Now I have been practicing Gracie Jiu Jit Su for a bit over 1 year. Lord's willing soon I will be testing for Blue Belt. Thanks to GRACIE family for the generosity
another reason kids might stop is because they legitimately dont have any interest in the subject matter. parents enroll their kids into all sorts of classes to see wat they're talented at or just to see wat they like, so wen the kid says that they dont like it or r just not paying attention to wat is being taught they take the kid out of the class. also u dont need bjj in ur life like u say. i know y say that, to promote ur business. u want to know how i know that? because wen some one brought up the issue of money u recommended a dvd. not free videos on the internet of people teaching parents how to do it with children which is equally viable, but a product u must pay for. and ur reason for y kids need to learn bjj is so they can defend them selves. there r other forms of self defense, ur not limited to just one option. for instance wen i was a kid i was enrolled in a karate class and i didnt care for it at all but a little bit latter my grandfather taught me how to box and ive loved boxing ever since. i agree kids need to learn how to defend them selves but again bjj isnt the only way to do that.
+Patrick Quinn I get ya but I hated TKD at first as a kid, took a while to figure out that I had talent. If your good at something, you'll love to do it.
Juan Lopez in your case u go to school for nothing. From your comment show you are not so very smart..I can say you are completely ignorant. BJJ is not necessary in a life. 90% of the people never involve in a fight or they have jobs that not necessary to know how to fight.
This video hit me in the head like Connor's left hook! I have 2 daughters in BJJ and my 8 year old absolutely loves it and my 11 year old has been losing interest. I will refocus my efforts with her through this challenging stage of her life with your sound advice. I really like the lessons you give about bullying. My eldest has gone through a few instances of being bullied and she didn't know how to handle it very well. Even though she has been training since she was six in BJJ she was never taught how to handle the verbal bulling. The physical attack yes (and one minor one did happen) but the mental game she still struggles with. I believe I will talk to her professors about this. Thank you!
Very simple the answer. I have a Dojo, I live from this, and I am in an area where people have money, rich people. They want everything for free, they do not want to sacrifice themselves, they prefer to play, they bring them to be taken care of, they do not like discipline, they are cowards, they do not like to get tired, they want to give them belts as a gift, they take many vacations and then they give them lazy come back, eat garbage, so they are always tired, parents is lazy too, they don't to bring them, Parents ask the children if they like it, what child likes discipline ???? Why not ask them if they like to go to school ??? They think it's a sport, and they come to play. and if a tournament does not go well, they do not want to come anymore, they think that with two classes a week, they will be champions of something. In short, they are not like before, they just want to sit in front of the video games, and their parents excuse him for being lazy.
One branch or path of yoga is called Hatha Yoga and this is probably what most people in the West associate with the word "yoga" - believing it is being practised only for mental and physical health.2 Some of the positions in yoga are not quite as harmless as they may appear, but are obviously of occult origin, as in the “cobra”, which is usually followed by “greeting the sun” - and taking the pose of the “mountain”. These are all positions which are designed to welcome Hindu gods. In the Hatha Yoga Pradipika it mentions the following in chapter one: “Salutations to Shiva, who taught the science of Hatha Yoga. It is the aspirant’s stairway to the heights of Raja Yoga... Yogi Svatmarama … explains the science of hatha for one reason - Raja Yoga.” So here we see clearly that Hatha Yoga was specifically designed to lead the practitioner onto Raja Yoga. Raja Yoga, however, is chiefly concerned with the cultivation of the mind through meditation. Shiva is also known as the Destroyer (of evil) or Yogeshwara (Lord of Yogis). Shiva's consort is Devi, or Kali, the goddess of death. Therefore, the idea that Hatha Yoga is "purely physical" is very much once again a distortion of the truth (in other words, an outright lie) and indeed begs the question "Why the cover up or confusion?" Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached Of course, it could be asked whether something purely physical can have any spiritual implications. One needs only look at such practices as Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached to them that is the problem. A further example that shows how something physical can have spiritual implications is to be found in the account of the Garden of Eden. For in Genesis chapter 3 we have an introduction to the enemy of God and mankind, making the suggestion to Adam’s wife, Eve, that by doing something purely physical (i.e. eating from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) she would not only receive a mighty spiritual blessing, but would indeed live forever, and become as a god. The real result of this action was Adam and Eve being cast out from Eden and the Fall of Man. Ever since then, man has been trying to sneak back into paradise by jumping over the hedge as it were (using drugs and mysticism)
Perception of one man is usually opinion. What men choose to do is up to the individual. If you have this infinite wisdom then save those people with there attached idea with your esoteric concept. Piece Love
mindpowerisabitch A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland warned that those who enjoy yoga and Indian head massages are taking risks with their "spiritual health" - opening themselves up to "Satan and The Fallen Angels". It’s been used by Hindus to find spiritual peace for more than one-and-a-half millennia. But Father Roland Colhoun, from Glendermott parish in Derry, fears it could lead Christians to "The Kingdom of Darkness". In an interview with the Derry Journal, he said that, while people may decide to take up yoga with good intentions, they could set themselves on a path towards "the bad spiritual domain" and even "Satan and The Fallen Angels". He told the Journal: "Pope Francis said 'do not seek spiritual answers in yoga classes'. Yoga is certainly a risk. There's the spiritual health risk. "When you take up those practices from other cultures, which are outside our Christian domain, you don’t know what you are opening yourself up to. "The bad spirit can be communicated in a variety of ways. I’m not saying everyone gets it, or that it happens every time, and people may well be doing yoga harmlessly. But there‘s always a risk and that’s why the Pope mentioned it and that’s why we talk about that in terms of the danger of the new age movement and the danger of the occult today. That’s the fear." Father Colhoun is not alone, within the Catholic Church, in his suspicions of Yoga as a potential source for evil. In 2011, the Vatican’s own chief exorcist, Gabriele Amorth, told The Telegraph that it leads to a belief in Hinduism, and that "all eastern religions are based on false belief in reincarnation". "Practising yoga is Satanic, it leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter", he added. And the late former Pope Benedict XVI, when he was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, warned Christians that yoga, Zen, and other forms of transcendental meditation could "degenerate into a cult of the body" that devalues prayer. But despite these warnings, a yoga teacher from Derry defended the practice and described herself as "a good Catholic".
mindpowerisabitch i spent most of the video writing an essay explaining why its you who is evil and morally corrupt. please, don't engage in blame analysis. its always wrong and leads to really bad things happening in history. a lot of people suffered, died, and suffered a horrible death because a group of people believed status was the result of righteousness, and that we could fix our problems if we got rid of the 'loosers' in society.
Never said that i understand you perspective i just want you to consider how many people died because someone said i don't agree in this way of things and believe this is how it will go (basically). A long list of people will pop up. Let people approach the situation as they see fit .
I quit when i was 8 or so because it wasn't fun, the other boys were older and too rough, the instructor was too strict... and there were computer games to play instead... so my parents grounded me in my room :'(
This is an awesome Video thanks for posting it you guys are really good about sharing information you have gained from experience really appreciate your work
My kids school isn't fun at all the teacher just yells at them. They are treated like adults. Both of my children want to quit. That's why I'm watching this.
I think its interesting you mention the parents watching the class. I remember vividly when I did karate some times my mom or dad would watch, and my mom would read a book or something else and I didn't think that was cool, my dad would watch and practice with me later. I remember one day they were showing how to break away from a grab and reset the distance, and after class my dad who had practiced judo, showed me a throw for the same situation witch I found much better because its stops the aggressor from just closing the distance again.
At my Taekwondo school, I've seen a lot of people leave. Most students that have established themselves, leave because they pick up something else, try to do both, and end up burning out. We've had students leave to do wrestling, soccer, or basketball, and in order to be competitive at a high school sport these days you have to train for it 12 months out of the year. We have one girl, who was one of my mentors when I started, who quit TKD to do wrestling. There's summer wrestling camp, there's the fall training season, the actual wrestling season in winter, and then weightlifting in spring to maintain muscle for the next round. Other students move off to college, get jobs, or just generally have life start to conflict.
My 8 year old son has ADHD and was in jujitsu, he had a hard time sitting stil sometimes during instruction. There were problems sometimes and I asked the instructor if everything was okay and he would always say everything was okay. Then after 2 years my son was basically kicked out, he was 6 when he started. This was a Renzo Gracie school, he wants to go back because he still has friends there. But really put off so might try Gracie Barra next.
Instructing many years you realize that some children are in it because the parents want them to be, others make it quite evident that they want to be there. Of course you're able to psychoanalyze and warm up to the children and make them interested but you can't force them to stay. OSU
I'm going to try to employ some of these techniques on my partner's who I'm trying to assist/help learn a technique when I know it a little better than they do. Be encouraging and fun not so bossy.😂 Thank you.
You can quit a school but you should never quit jiu-jitsu. If you can't afford monthly classes at a regular academy, get the DVD collection for $120 and work through the program from home with your child (with the added benefit of incredible bonding time with the child). Check the website in the description for details!
GracieAcademy Great video! You should include in the bully proof program the verbal role playing. Make a extra video. I think it would be really important.
I get it you have to make money but with the ufc backing it you are at free range of pricing it what ever you guys want i seen in atleast nyc renzo gracie spot about 350 every month crazy im pretty sure your grandfather would be like theres no need to charge crazy on the people another thing why pay 120 you really cant learn unless u have a buddy not excuses but who really has time to come to your house and roll around these days people that signed up want to roll these are just my conserns on seeing popular martial arts sky rocket in pricing just cause its popular
NYCKILLA95 You make some very valid points. But, jiu jitsu is much more than physical. Here is an important mental aspect of jiu jitsu (all sports really): problem solving. Yes, classes can be expensive. Yes, not everyone has someone they can depend on to train with regularly. Those are merely extra pieces of the problem. What can you do to solve it? Well, nothing says you can't go to the schools and talk with the instructors. Most instructors are damn cool and would be willing to work out some sort of barter arrangement. You clean the school after classes and you attend for free, for example. Second, you can also go to those schools and maybe find a member who is looking for extra training time. You can volunteer to be a rolling buddy. Even if they are waaaaaay better than you are, you will come out ahead. Remember, in jiu jitsu, there is no lose. You either win or you learn. Third, you could post an ad in craigslist or even take out a personal in your newspaper. Sure, you may come across a few guys you don't mix with, but at least there's a chance that you find someone(s) to train with regularly. Here's what I would do: I would focus most of my effort at the beginning on finding good training partners. Good in the sense that they are like-minded, not necessarily that they are skilled in jiu jitsu. When I have at least one partner, check out youtube, buy videos, post in forums, and when you can, attend seminars. If you are able, find out what it costs for a private session from your local BJJ school instructor. Every once in a while, I would go for a private session and get some correction. See? Every problem has within it the seed for it's solution. Good luck, my friend. I hope you enjoy the journey.
***** When a student has technically improved enough that he warrants a belt promotion, the teacher in question withholds his promotion so that he will continue to compete at his current belt level (which is underrated) and continue to defeat his competitors from other schools, who have the correct rank. Thusly winning another medal for his individual school and inflating his school's status and prestige at the expense of the other schools. It is a means of manipulating the system to gain material benefit. The long-term result is that the people do not get rewarded for hard work, and the beginners cannot compete against other beginners because their division is "contaminated" by sandbaggers who should be promoted. It ruins the system by removing any sense of fairness. I draw a parallel between sandbagging and steroid use. Manipulating the system for one's personal benefit. In 2000, Renzo Gracie's New York Academy was the most sandbagged school in America. It was also rated #1. Joey Scarola, who was a competitor on The Ultimate Fighter Season 7, was previously sandbagged as a blue belt. There was a point where he had purple belt skills, but still wore a blue belt on paper and competed against other blue belts. On one internet news story (I think it was on Grapplers.com), Renzo's students dominated over other competitors and openly said to him, "You can't hold us back any more, Renzo!" NAGA (North American Grappling Association) now has rules to police sandbagging. If the referee in question determines that a competitor is sandbagging a division, he has the right to "promote" the sandbagger to the next higher belt division. The IBJJF (International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation) now prohibits a competitor from competing in a non-black belt division if he has already won that division in the past.
Definitely. The parents who let their weak, spoiled, entitled kids quit BJJ are going to end up having these same kids live with them until they die. These kids will quit college, quit their jobs, and live with their parents where they can play video games all day.
***** I believe that some academies will hold a higher standard just because they want to hold a higher standard and not necessarily because they want to sandbag. I also believe there are many underhanded teachers who will manipulate the system for their own material benefit. A fledgling school is under a lot of pressure to make a name for itself to attract new students. To make a name for itself, it has to rake in those medals. A very convenient way to rake in the medals at tournaments is to sandbag. BJJ instructors are not morally perfect. They are driven by material self-interest, just like any human being. My old teacher won the Mundial brown belt division in 1999. He only got a stripe on his brown belt. He competed again in the brown belt division in 2000 and won again. People were starting to complain (and rightly so). Do you really think his 8th-degree black belt instructor openly admitted to him that he was intentionally sandbagging him? Oh, please.
***** "You're telling me they don't sandbag intentionally, just hold different standards, then in your final paragraph you argue against what you just said." No, I am telling you that SOME of them do not intentionally sandbag, and that SOME of them do. MANY of them do. I am NOT, at any point, saying that ALL of them do the same thing. Do you not understand this logic? The difference between SOME and ALL?
When the kids quit BJJ it reflects how their parents raised them. Kids who quit BJJ will quit anything. These kids will become the kind of young adults who go away to college then either "drop out" or "flunk out" after one semester. They are a product of their parental conditioning. They've never had to "stick to anything", and they only "choose to" stick to their video games and smartphones.
Given a mortgage, bills, car payments, etc. BJJ is not an economical sport for parents to send their kids to learn. Most in the Los Angeles area charge $110+. If you have more than one kid, it becomes increasingly difficult to pay. The market is there, it's that their pricing is wrong. Moreover, pricing for children's classes should be structured different. This kids don't start getting legitimate belts til late in youth. Why charge them like adults? If this sports wants to be globally recognized, it should be easier to join like wrestling or boxing.
My problem is that I do Jiu-Jitsu as a parent and I pull out my hair (I am bald now) then I watch my kids in the juniors class. They do ask me how they did after class and I sometimes tell them to focus and go over moved when we get home. They enjoy when we spend 5 to 10 minutes to go over moves.
As a little one I got migraines a month, but for Judo back then which I kinda liked, just like today, some people lack a certain vibe at training due to personal or charachter, but also the gassing of the room, the glue and paint and smell, not stinky but chemical like may be.
Well said Patrick Quinn. I always will wonder however, if I had been encouraged a bit more by my Father, who had allowed me to quit: was I giving up for the wrong reasons? I still don't know. I suppose, different kids respond in different ways, based on personality and how they come to discover their true interests.
My son has begun to feel overwhelmed in Jiu Jitsu right after entering the teens class. I'm not watching, but I think he's getting beaten by other teen boys - he's 12.5 and now too old and big for the 9-12 class. He showed me what's happening in the teens class and how he finds it really challenging and I told him that I agree with him; it must be really hard, but keep trying and learning the technique. Any help would be appreciated because I think he's really good and will advance to his grey belt with some patience. He started 10 months ago.
The school I found called black lion in Michigan has their kids class broken into two sections and I got my girlfriends son into it at ten and he enjoys it and wants to practice what he learned when we get home
I want my kids to begin jitsu but they are not ready because their control isn't mature enough. So they're doing hapkido and taekwondo for now and I'm very very strict on thier studies and training. As I want them to complete what they begin. As this is s life continuing curriculum of self defence and perfection.
Tulsa Gracie Certified Center I enrolled my kids after my son was kicked in the back of the head off the school bus... Im a divorced parent ... I knew something was wrong with my son...I found out and enrolled my kids into a system I know works being former military and law enforcement. My kids love it and Robert is on point and keeps it fun and real...The kids are going full time and Im going to start at sqr1 and be white belts with them. But I had to back off and let the team own it and give thumbs up in the seats or go handle my company issues and let the kids be kids...
I hope I never try to quit I'm 12 only been in for a bit less than a year I first trained with Fabio navaes it felt like home there I miss it then I moved to NC so my mom can go to duke university because she has an illness so we found a place down here they thought me my brother and and my sis were so good they put us in the adult class I can't wait to move back down to Florida so I can train with my jiu jitsu family
Both my kids, boy and girl, quit bjj after two years and now want to quit Muay Thai after one year and its heart breaking I do both and would like to train with them but now they are at the age the will be able to train with me and the adults but want to give up before they get the chance
I think it is beyond important for my daugter to learn Jiu-Jistu. She is 7 years old and has been to a handful of classes but now wants to quit. She says she is not comfortable with the up close and personal aspet. How can I help her move on from this fear?
Some day I will have kids and 4 sure no doubt girl especially, I will put them in bjj. I was a lazy kid and my mom did really put limitations but for my kids I will get them in there. I started a few years back and I honestly enjoyed it. Today I am starting at a new academy. I am super pumped and a little nervous.
you say the parent should step away but you yourselves were coached by your father so what about kids who want to roll with their parents? should they say no?
hey guys I just now saw this video and I absolutely love it, However what do you do if the bully is your younger bigger brother but you don't want to fight because you don't want your mother to see brothers fighting how do you handle that, anyway love the videos keep up the great work.
Is 3 years old too young to participate? You mention ages 4 and up. Is it worth it to keep bringing kids so young? I fear they may be a distraction to the rest of the class. Is it better to take them out of class and bring them back when they are willing to sit in a circle or against the wall.
Some kids quit Jiu Jitsu because of the long process but some kids quit because their family have financial issues. Some families can’t afford paying for lessons for multiple years. But some also quit because they’ve got a busy schedule, my friend quit BJJ because he was too busy with school and he worked two jobs.
It’s not about Jiu Jitsu or any other specific sports. Kids grow and their horizon is expanding to all the more things in life has to offer, so why limit themselves to what happens in a box? Although I am convinced that this is a great school but not everyone is cut out for this kind of life.
Must be balanced. Progress and fun, if is just fun then is not a martial arts school but a zoo, if us just progress and no fun, then is boot camp! It must be structured and not random. And character development must be included clearly in the curriculum.
OUR gym is like this little more strict .. i mean they have fun with obstacle stuff things like that... but my daughter 9 now been doing it since she was 4 .. clearly not that interested we have had months off here or there ... but she seems to still be scared and dont implement her technique she wrecks her 13 yr old brother at home but at gym she seems sooo lazy .. MIGUEL torres is our teacher love it there whole family participates
reason my kid quit jiu jitsu: there wasn't another kid in the class at his age, the next closest kid was 2 years older and had 2 years of experience, plus he was much stronger, and maybe 2 inches taller than my kid. when they rolled this kid destroyed my kid, mostly using tosses and trips and the instructors allowed the older kid to show out like a wwe wrestler after tossing my son to the ground or tapping him out. it was not only physically punishing to get manhandled like this, but being constantly humiliated with the showboating was too much for a 6 yr old to deal with. parents, be careful what you subject your children to!
If you want your kids to stick with bjj you have to set an example. Don't tell them to do something you don't want to do yourself. Its like parents who want their kids to play piano but you never listen to mozart, beethoven etc, just pop stuff. Why bother practicing when you won't even listen to it
This would be a great way to play with my 5.5 year old grandson (Always attacks me in bed-ealy morning - when visiting trying to get me to watch cartoons with him lol.).
My six year old daughter was in Karate when we lived in Japan; one day she said she didn't want to go. No reason, she just didn't want to go. I said, "You'd better go call your friends at Karate and tell them you won't be seeing them anymore, because this is how it starts. She got up and went to Karate.
About a week later, I packed up my gym bag in preparation for going to the gym, but something really interesting came on TV, so I put my bag down and sat down. My daughter said, "Dad, weren't you going to the gym?" I said that I was but I really wanted to see this show. My daughter replied, "Well you'd better go call your friends and tell them you won't be seeing them anymore." I had no choice but to get up and go to the gym.
My 7 year old son has been doing BJJ for 2 months......This video taught me to keep my mouth shut after his classes. I have been trying to give him tips, and unintentionally focusing on his mistakes and failures. I now realize that I should just let him have fun and progress naturally instead of having such high expectations which will lead to him wanting to quit for fear of disappointing me........thanks for the video.
rstscott Yeah
your son wont disappoint you if you dont disappoint him
Just curious.. is your son still doing BJJ 2 years on?
rstscott Exactly. You don’t really know anything about bjj so you might be making him worse. Leave it to the instructors.
As a Taekwondo Instructor, the best thing you can do is have conversations with your kid and guide them, but use the instructors as your guide. For example, "I heard the instructor say you need to practice this technique, so you need to practice it every day." This particular piece of advice is just setting an expectation for the kid to practice, but it leaves the instructors in charge of what to practice and gives the kid the agency of knowing what to practice.
When I open for our weekend classes, or when I am volunteering before a test to help anyone cram for their test, the best parents are the ones that will say "Ask Mr. Daniel to check your form." They still encourage their kids to practice, but they also leave what to practice up to the instructors, and leave the critique of that practice up to us as well.
As a former instructor myself, it comes down to the teacher. As a teacher, it is your responsibility to make lessons challenging and FUN. Now, I know many of you out there, will say martial arts is not about fun; Yes it is. When something is fun, you study harder, learn more and get a sense of respect for the art. When you look at some of the most amazing teachers out there; are the top instructors boring? Are they brutal? No. They know how to teach their craft, and allow people to learn and experience the challenge, brotherhood/sisterhood and gain that much needed self confidence.
I feel like money is a big part. You guys are right of course how its a process that takes years but a lot of people don't have that kind of money to keep paying over 10 years . I feel that is a big reason why parents take there kids out.
As an instructor and father of two children thank you for this video. Really appreciate everything yo guys do
The hardest part of advice…expect nothing, praise everything but by far the best part.
Failing a belt test and being laughed at by the instructors is the reason I quit. I hope they found humor in the missing monthly checks from my parents.
cornerofthemoon seriously?! 😱
Your gym had belt tests? My daughter's gym promotes when the professor feels they are ready.
@@garybolenable same! They don’t just hand them suckers out like candy at my child’s Bjj school
@@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303 - And once they are old enough to join the adult class they start back at white belt. :)~
@@garybolenable Ha! That’s how you know, you’re getting the real lessons and any black belt certainly earned it!
30:18 - YES! I was told that all my life, and now, here I am at 38 years old playing catch-up. I've only been doing jiu-jitsu for 3 months, and already it's been an immense self-confidence booster. Even as a former athlete, I've always been afraid of confrontation. Not anymore! Thanks, Ryron and Rener.
Kids or even teenagers quit martial arts in general when they realize they are not getting any better. Sometimes is their mistake and sometimes their trainer's. No one will quit if they are aware of their progress.
Lots of people get bored, even with progress. At my TKD school, we had one teenager and his mom, the teenager was progressing fast and was close to black belt, but he quit. His Mom's attitude was "well, he lasted longer than I thought he would." Not everyone wants to do the same thing for years on end.
Who thumbs this down? This is a very positive message. Even if a person doesn't like them or the service they offer...the message is far more important.
This is a great video and there are some very true aspects in it. I've been practicing Judo since I was 11 and I'm a black belt and teacher, and it's practically the same thing in this sport. However, there may also be other reasons why kids quit.
1. In my country Judo isn't the most popular sport. Many kids quit because literally all their friends are doing soccer training. Everybody watches soccer matches, almost nobody watches Judo matches.
2. Motivation comes also with success. I think often there's not enough focus on teaching kids techniques thoroughly so they work in competitions. When they lose often, sooner or later they will be gone.
3. Most kids who remain in this combat sport are those whose parents have been or still are pracicing Judo. Food for thought.
This was very useful. A lot of people here are saying that JJ is expensive, I disagree. I mean around a $100 per month per child is a lot of money, but not when you compare to many alternatives. In many schools, for hundred bucks or so, kids can have as many classes as they want, usually 3-4 per week. If kids and parents want to take advantage of that, that's a LOT of instruction for the money. For comparison, gymnastics is a very popular choice. Where I live, for around $125 per month, kids get one class per week, usually between 45 minute and an hour. So per dollar, JJ offers way more fun and physical activity for the kids, teaching skills that transcend the gym and the mat.
Thanks for all of the advice. How about a verbal Jiu-Jitsu Gracie breakdown video that addresses what Rener was talking about, i.e. the disconnect of knowing physical techniques but not knowing how to defend yourself verbally? It sure would help a lot of kids.
I don't see how. I'm 14, started around 12. I go year around except for fall, when I play football, and I love it. Honestly I'm so happy I found Jiu Jitsu. It's defiantly one of my favorite things on earth.
I've been focusing on the bad points that my son does at mui thai without realising it i will now focus on the positive thanks for the videos great help please keep them going 😊
I can not believe that Jordan is 27! Damn time flies. He is a great instructor and a great representative for Gracie Jiu Jitsu. TALK MORE JORDAN, parents need to hear more of your perspective.
Personally when I was a kid I did karate for a couple of year, really enjoyed it and then got bored of it and quit. That was same with all sports I took up, plus the guitar as well. However hard my parents pushed me I had lost interest pre teenage years. I think as a youngster you want to try everything, that's why we jump from thing to thing. Just wondered if anyone else was the same?
I'm 15 now did MAKOTOKAI karate for over 10 years have a black belt 1 dan and play classical guitar for past 7 years. I will start brasilian jiujitsu next week. reasons why i will quit karate is that our dojo moved and I loose too much time (i need to learn and practice other things too) and I want to learn something different because we have better and bigger dojo our lessons became more comercialised and less personable. I love karate tho. Just thought my story is similar to yourse haha :) Peace
LanTheG thanks for sharing, looks like your a very committed individual. Most people quit after a short while including myself. I too learnt classical guitar for about 5 years however the last 3 of those years I wanted to quit but my parents pushed. I stopped playing until my teens when I got into heavy metal, like metallic, got me into electric guitar. Then as my taste change my brother got an acoustic when I was 23 I really got into that. What I'm trying to say is, go for it try a different martial art rather than quitting all together and you'll probably find it will reinvigorate you and give you a strong passion for it.
Thanks for your advice I will start class next monday because we have hollydays at the moment :D I also love metal rock blues punk... but mhost of all jazz :) It saddens me every time parents push kids to do something against heir will :/ but at least you got your skills down. thanks for support.
+LanTheG True that! But I tried a lot of different things with my two nephews and my niece. I found it was easy to find what they do like because they actually remember what you teach them, they concentrate. My niece is really into space so I bought her a huge telescope for Christmas and told my brother its up to him to learn a bit about astronomy and get into it with her. Unfortunately that time is too much of a sacrifice, similar story with my nephews. My brother and sister expect me to do everything so I appreciate pushy parents at times, they just have to be more attuned to their children.
PCBRO my niece is also really into space, so I got her a large empty room.
Excellent video. Very timely.
Kids have iPods, iPhones, Instagram, Xbox, PS, WiiU and everything is glowing at them at home after long day at school. It's so hard to drag them to the BJJ class from all of this.
If only you had all the role-playing exercises on your Bullyproof DVDs.
Rener's passion is contagious! Keep it up! Keep the fire! Never fade! Know there are thousands of BJJ students get inspired every day by the videos like this.
Thank you for addressing topic in a professional and mature way.
Parents need to train also. This helps them identify with what the kid is going through as well as the obvious benefits. My son started karate when he was 5. I started shortly after. I would go to the kids class with him then stay for the adult class. We got our Black Belts together. He is 14 now and has also been training BJJ. He likes it better. I would be training BJJ also but I need a hip replacement. Best thing I ever did was taking him to train.
Great video. My son just started and this is after 2 years of karate that basically slowly killed his soul. His first BJJ class he just opened up, asked questions and had an amazing amount of fun.
Very good explanation for me as a father of a six year old boy that just started his BJJ journey
"When they feel comfortable, they're gonna want to come back"
Same applies if you're four or twenty four tbh. Like a month after starting BJJ I had to go to one academy more local to my house at the time (was on holiday when I started) and I know for a fact if my first lesson had been there I would not have continued. That's because my original academy was a lot better at fostering community. Make people feel like they're welcome and they belong and you see how much easier it is to retain students.
Let's not over look the expense. Most people have 2 children and classes cost well over $100 per month for 2 children. For a large segment of society, that's just not do-able long term.
yeah, bjj is expensive as fuck. but it's all about priorities to some extend.
I pay $159 at travis lutter gym. what they teach you is amazing and very advanced at times. These lessons can save your life. Its all about how much you want it.
If you were really passionate about it you wouldn't care.
Tell me about it, i got 3 kids and they're all in BJJ.
wow, here (mid-size town in Sweden) judo costs about 35$ per year for kids, and BJJ 47$! Which is of course really cheap. For some reason other more traditional sports are more expsensive.
Excellent info. Love the simple "keep it fun" method for little ones. I do this with my 4 yr old and 2 yr old. Oss.
I know I am late to the game, but thank you so much for this video my friends. Appreciate all that you do
You can tell my child needs a little more help and has problems keeping still. I wish they would understand my child is slightly different then others. They punish him by calling him out and sending him to the other side of the room alone. I wish I had you guys as his instructors. They are exactly how you explain, just tell them to watch, pair up, and do the moves. There aren’t many instructors so kids don’t always get one on one attention because there’s just too many... but it’s been 2 months and he has never got promoted, while others who signed up after him have been getting promoted. He is definitely a rowdy child but I just thought they would understand, some kids are more rambunctious than others.
So happy to see this video, there are actually great instructors out there ❤️ this gives me hope
Sounds like your kid is not ready or you just arent a good fit for that gym. Some are more serious than others. This comment was 11 months ago so I hope you got it worked out.
My kids the opposite, he’s really good in classes then let’s put all his can’t sit still antsiness at home
Thank you for the amount of thought you put into teaching Jiu-Jitsu.
Here is another reason kids quit Jiu Jitsu.
From yelp and google.
1/4/2015
Sadly, I can attest that my son attended the Gracie academy to prevent being bullied for over 6 years. In the end, he was bullied by 3 of his co classmates at the Gracie Academy in Torrance, CA. When this was bought to the academies attention, namely Rener Gracie and Brian Ortega, they opted to side with the other 3 students and branded my son a liability and a bully, after one of the three students mothers threatened the academy in person. These same three boys bullied my son at his educational school for several months, to the point where my son defended himself against these three aggressors. The school ruled my sons actions self defense and he was not suspended (though there is a no fault policy in place).This triggered the a fore mentioned threatening mothers actions at the academy. The Gracie's, as a result of this, labeled my son a bully and sided with the threatening mother.They did this without talking to the school, the other students involved or myself.
When I tried to defend my son and enlighten Rener regarding the facts of which he neither sought out or was aware of, he was completely jaded and unwilling to listen.Though he did talk a lot about what the mother that came in had told him. Irritated and unwilling to talk further, he then informed me " I have wasted enough time on this already, and I could have made $700 in privates already". Does this sound like a person who truly cares about children?
Having attended for 6 plus years and being a loyal patron, I could not believe what I was hearing. I did not allow Seth to return. I do not wish for him to be instructed by people who lack integrity, real morality or common sense, when that is exactly why they were sought in the first place.
I do not recommend any business establishment that places a premium on their bottom line and steps on top of people to get where they are going. If integrity and honor are what you seek, there are many alternatives to this establishment, which are more professional and truly care about the children that they are instructing. I do not recommend this establishment especial for children. You may find yourself in a similar situation to mine and discover that 6+ years of loyalty counts for nothing. Avoid fake people who will not support you or your children in defending themselves against bullies.
When the real fight began and Seth used what he was taught and stood up for himself, he did the right thing and he did it right...3 against one and ruled self defense by the school principal. When it was the Gracie's turn to back him up, they tapped to a threatening individual without even getting on the mat.
The Gracie's should be completely ashamed of themselves, considering what they say they stand for.
Keep it real.
Michael Fiore.
Business Owner
1/9/2015 In my 17 years as a jiu-jitsu instructor and business owner, this is certainly one of the most challenging and unfortunate incidences we've ever experienced. Seth started at 4 years old, and was an outstanding student. So much so that years later we made him an assistant instructor in kids' classes where he continued to excel. I was surprised when it was brought to my attention that a conflict had occurred between him and another young Gracie Academy student at school, but it was my intention to do whatever I could to help resolve the issue without placing blame (Out of respect for your son's privacy I will not go into detail regarding the actual incident on a public forum). The challenge, however, is that when I have parents of two children offering conflicting interpretations of a single incident, it puts me in a very difficult position. Although I spent a substantial amount of time addressing concerns from both sides, and tried to use my best judgment to find a middle ground, in the end, I was unable to find an amicable resolution for both families. Above all else, I am saddened that after 6 years of friendship, a single misunderstanding caused Seth to be pulled away from the Gracie Academy. If at any point in the future, you can forgive me and the Gracie Academy, our doors are always open, and we would love to have Seth back on the mat to continue the amazing growth and progress that he so positively embraced. -Rener Gracie (Owner/Head Instructor)
1.0 star rating 1/9/2015 Updated review
Rener,
Isn't it something that I have to publicly do this to make you apologize for what you did and know was wrong? You know exactly what you did and your actions are indefensible.
There were 3 students from the academy bullying Seth, not one. The fact is that the mother of only one of the 3 came in and threatened you (i.e. the academy) after Seth was exonerated by the school principal. You told me that she threatened to spread that you had a bully as an instructor and "how would that look?" She was angry and did what angry people do, use poor judgement.
When I tried to make you aware of this you became angry and would not even let me speak of the other two boys who attend Seth's public school and the Gracie Academy. I told Brian their names. I even told you that the school psychologist believed she understood why the boys were attacking Seth at school and not the academy. Your response was "I don't believe that" and blew me off.
Rener, I was not there at his school when this happened, but neither were you. When you talked with Seth about this at the academy, and did not even ask my permission to do so (which you know I would have done), you violated my rights as a parent. You would be wise not to do that with another parent.
Your information about the incident was provided by a mother who has in the past been spreading false rumors about Seth at the academy. I brought this to your fathers attention a year before she threatened you and Rorion said it did not sound important at the time and not to worry about it. Talk with Alex and your father, they will remember.
You were not in a difficult position Rener. in truth, you rapidly reacted to being threatened and for your own reasons, did what you did, without letting me properly share the facts of the matter. On the very morning you were threatened and this women lied to you about the facts, you labeled Seth a liability and a bully. Contrary to what you stated, I was not allowed to defend my son. You rushed to judgement and said things that were abominable, like "having wasted too much time already on this" and the reference to money and private classes.
I wish there were a misunderstanding, but there is only the truth of what happened.
You try to impress that we are friend and you are sorry for what happened. If that is so, why have you allowed Seth to be away for 10 months without a word or care?
It's simple, you, Brian and your family simply don't care. Which is exactly why I don't recommend your establishment to anyone. You only pretend to care when it fits your business paradigm, which is no way to run a business and runs contrary to what you preach to everyone. I thought I knew your father well enough to know that he would not condone this type of behavior. Perhaps I was wrong.
I appreciate everything that the academy did for Seth, but your past actions reflect your true mentality. Of the harm that you have caused to Seth, I will only say this, he is still in therapy and has had suicidal thoughts.
You and Brian lack faith in your teachings. He was trained for years on what to do when being faced with a bullying situation. He was an assistant instructor. He did the right thing Rener. I wish I could say the same for you.
I accept your apology, but too much harm has already been done. I pray you gain some wisdom from all of this.
Thats some deep shit
Did He Say Get Down? Wow
Mike Fiore THEY NEED TO REPLY TO THIS
if all parties decide you kid has "issues" maybe its YOU KID! a lot of parents have a hard time seeing their own blind spots-no one should be bullied but when 3 kids and the instructors say it, you may want to evaluate it. some strong personality kids need to be checked and put into their place, this is not only uncomfortable, but necessary. Depending on the depth of the kids crapy behavior, stubborn nature , etc...this balance is very hard to get as an instructor. sometimes they break, and don't come back due to the codling of the parents that installed this behavior in the first place. when the world is saying your wrong you maybe a pioneer(1%) or......simply wrong. (90%)
To be fair, this is just an isolated incident. I STRONGLY believe that the Gracie family absolutely appreciate and love each and every one of their students. Perhaps if the parent went to the academy after being reinvited by Rener, they would've resolved the situation and Seth would've continued his training... Like Rener said, it was a very difficult situation on his part and maybe he didn't make the best of choices. Plus, maybe Rener told the parent these things (which we don't even know are true) because the parent is a complete dickhead. Maybe he was being really annoying and unreasonable towards Rener. Direct proof of that is the fact that the parent said that it was THE ACADEMY'S fault that Seth is having suicidal thoughts. Such a dick move. Don't blame the establishment, blame the 3 kids and their parents. Why didn't the parent go to the kids' parents directly and had a chat with them? Why try to resolve the situation THROUGH the academy? No real point to it...
My parents let me quit too many things when i was young... sometimes kids dont know what is good for them.
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Kids and people quit for various reasons. They want to do something different. Their family cannot afford to send them anymore. They don't want to get thrown around, choked, and placed in submissions anymore. They've learned all that they wanted to. And so on.
When I was out of town, I hit up the local BJJ to train. Before class was a kids class and it was bad - the instructors had maybe a dozen kids around 7 to 10 years old. The instructors were showing moves like an adult class for 15 minutes and showing moves and talking about what it's worth in points in competition. Most the kids were bored, a couple started running around. It didn't look fun at all.
The hard phase of 12-13years old made me quit soccer so i can relate 100% to this... even tho it was self defense or combat sports related i gained a lot of confidence from the sport itself already but felt like losing this confidence when i quit. so even if your kid does other sports and wants to quit at this critical age dont let them!
Fantastic insights, guys! I'm considering this for our daughter and this helped a ton in our search for a school.
Excellent tips. Love these guys.
Well Said. Two of my Three kids are practicing BJJ both are 3rd degree white belts. Aged 7 and 11. They are involved in other sports, Hockey, Baseball, Basketball, Lacrosse. I try not to be a coach and just enjoy the ride. Letting them know that I enjoy watching them. I also try to give them my full attention. Meaning I stay off my phone and from time to time take some photos of them in the moment.
Hockey Canada also believes kids stop playing hockey in Canada for much the same reason. Parents become to involved in trying to coach from the stands.
Just Watched This; Good Video, thank you guys. Very insightful to hear how you guys were brought up in Jiu Jitsu as a more playful & spontaneous environment (childlike) - to associate joy to it and build organic, genuine interest, Vs. A regimen, militant, discipline, forcefull approach - generally leads to disinterest, rebelliousness, and not stocking with it... This was not how I would have imagined you guys would have brought up in Jiu Jitsu. Very insightful in ANY Endeavor in Life worth pursuing to become the best versions of ourselves. How to build genuine, organic interest that will last a lifetime, especially from a young age. Priceless
Thank You Guys
-Alex
👍🏻 Video. So everything you said about what parents do and say to their child after their class I’m guilty of. Ugh. I’m going to take your advice and just let my little guy know how much I enjoy watching him do Jiu-Jitsu and keep it simple and positive. Thanks guys.
I can tell you, I fist watched this video 5 years ago and it was an eye opener for me. At the time, my son was 7 and I was on his ass all of the time. I would watch every class, and he was always looking over at me for approval. After watching this video I decided to completely stay off of his case, and only give him positive feedback and ask if he had fun. I stopped watching his classes and mostly just started dropping him off and picking him up. It’s now 5 years later and he is almost 13 and still going strong.
Now I notice all of the asshole dads talking down to their kids and getting overly involved ……I just shake my head and watch them quit 1 by 1. I’ve literally seen about 100 kids come and go over the last 5 years.
44:52 That's the question !!!! That is THE question!!!!
In order to encourage the Kids to practice Jiu Jit Su, it is from parents or guardian. To encourage the kids. My dad persuaded me the learning Martial Arts when I was 5 year old, and now my kid started when she was 3.5 year old , she is now 13.5. Now I have been practicing Gracie Jiu Jit Su for a bit over 1 year. Lord's willing soon I will be testing for Blue Belt. Thanks to GRACIE family for the generosity
another reason kids might stop is because they legitimately dont have any interest in the subject matter. parents enroll their kids into all sorts of classes to see wat they're talented at or just to see wat they like, so wen the kid says that they dont like it or r just not paying attention to wat is being taught they take the kid out of the class. also u dont need bjj in ur life like u say. i know y say that, to promote ur business. u want to know how i know that? because wen some one brought up the issue of money u recommended a dvd. not free videos on the internet of people teaching parents how to do it with children which is equally viable, but a product u must pay for. and ur reason for y kids need to learn bjj is so they can defend them selves. there r other forms of self defense, ur not limited to just one option. for instance wen i was a kid i was enrolled in a karate class and i didnt care for it at all but a little bit latter my grandfather taught me how to box and ive loved boxing ever since. i agree kids need to learn how to defend them selves but again bjj isnt the only way to do that.
+Patrick Quinn I get ya but I hated TKD at first as a kid, took a while to figure out that I had talent. If your good at something, you'll love to do it.
Patrick Quinn did your parents take you out of school because you didn't like it too? I can tell by the way you write 😂😂😂
Juan Lopez in your case u go to school for nothing. From your comment show you are not so very smart..I can say you are completely ignorant. BJJ is not necessary in a life. 90% of the people never involve in a fight or they have jobs that not necessary to know how to fight.
Great video guys. Appreciate the thought, love, and energy that went into everything presented. Thank you.
This video hit me in the head like Connor's left hook! I have 2 daughters in BJJ and my 8 year old absolutely loves it and my 11 year old has been losing interest. I will refocus my efforts with her through this challenging stage of her life with your sound advice. I really like the lessons you give about bullying. My eldest has gone through a few instances of being bullied and she didn't know how to handle it very well. Even though she has been training since she was six in BJJ she was never taught how to handle the verbal bulling. The physical attack yes (and one minor one did happen) but the mental game she still struggles with. I believe I will talk to her professors about this.
Thank you!
3:01 & 6:20 Brian Ortega "playing" with the kids! How cool is this.
Very simple the answer. I have a Dojo, I live from this, and I am in an area where people have money, rich people. They want everything for free, they do not want to sacrifice themselves, they prefer to play, they bring them to be taken care of, they do not like discipline, they are cowards, they do not like to get tired, they want to give them belts as a gift, they take many vacations and then they give them lazy come back, eat garbage, so they are always tired, parents is lazy too, they don't to bring them, Parents ask the children if they like it, what child likes discipline ???? Why not ask them if they like to go to school ??? They think it's a sport, and they come to play. and if a tournament does not go well, they do not want to come anymore, they think that with two classes a week, they will be champions of something. In short, they are not like before, they just want to sit in front of the video games, and their parents excuse him for being lazy.
25:49 I got chills. Trying to learn to motivate my unconcerned nephew that this can be very important even life saving.
One branch or path of yoga is called Hatha Yoga and this is probably what most people in the West associate with the word "yoga" - believing it is being practised only for mental and physical health.2
Some of the positions in yoga are not quite as harmless as they may appear, but are obviously of occult origin, as in the “cobra”, which is usually followed by “greeting the sun” - and taking the pose of the “mountain”. These are all positions which are designed to welcome Hindu gods.
In the Hatha Yoga Pradipika it mentions the following in chapter one:
“Salutations to Shiva, who taught the science of Hatha Yoga. It is the aspirant’s stairway to the heights of Raja Yoga... Yogi Svatmarama … explains the science of hatha for one reason - Raja Yoga.”
So here we see clearly that Hatha Yoga was specifically designed to lead the practitioner onto Raja Yoga. Raja Yoga, however, is chiefly concerned with the cultivation of the mind through meditation.
Shiva is also known as the Destroyer (of evil) or Yogeshwara (Lord of Yogis). Shiva's consort is Devi, or Kali, the goddess of death.
Therefore, the idea that Hatha Yoga is "purely physical" is very much once again a distortion of the truth (in other words, an outright lie) and indeed begs the question "Why the cover up or confusion?"
Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached
Of course, it could be asked whether something purely physical can have any spiritual implications. One needs only look at such practices as Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached to them that is the problem.
A further example that shows how something physical can have spiritual implications is to be found in the account of the Garden of Eden. For in Genesis chapter 3 we have an introduction to the enemy of God and mankind, making the suggestion to Adam’s wife, Eve, that by doing something purely physical (i.e. eating from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) she would not only receive a mighty spiritual blessing, but would indeed live forever, and become as a god.
The real result of this action was Adam and Eve being cast out from Eden and the Fall of Man. Ever since then, man has been trying to sneak back into paradise by jumping over the hedge as it were (using drugs and mysticism)
Perception of one man is usually opinion. What men choose to do is up to the individual. If you have this infinite wisdom then save those people with there attached idea with your esoteric concept.
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mindpowerisabitch A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland warned that those who enjoy yoga and Indian head massages are taking risks with their "spiritual health" - opening themselves up to "Satan and The Fallen Angels".
It’s been used by Hindus to find spiritual peace for more than one-and-a-half millennia. But Father Roland Colhoun, from Glendermott parish in Derry, fears it could lead Christians to "The Kingdom of Darkness".
In an interview with the Derry Journal, he said that, while people may decide to take up yoga with good intentions, they could set themselves on a path towards "the bad spiritual domain" and even "Satan and The Fallen Angels".
He told the Journal: "Pope Francis said 'do not seek spiritual answers in yoga classes'. Yoga is certainly a risk. There's the spiritual health risk.
"When you take up those practices from other cultures, which are outside our Christian domain, you don’t know what you are opening yourself up to.
"The bad spirit can be communicated in a variety of ways. I’m not saying everyone gets it, or that it happens every time, and people may well be doing yoga harmlessly. But there‘s always a risk and that’s why the Pope mentioned it and that’s why we talk about that in terms of the danger of the new age movement and the danger of the occult today. That’s the fear."
Father Colhoun is not alone, within the Catholic Church, in his suspicions of Yoga as a potential source for evil. In 2011, the Vatican’s own chief exorcist, Gabriele Amorth, told The Telegraph that it leads to a belief in Hinduism, and that "all eastern religions are based on false belief in reincarnation".
"Practising yoga is Satanic, it leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter", he added.
And the late former Pope Benedict XVI, when he was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, warned Christians that yoga, Zen, and other forms of transcendental meditation could "degenerate into a cult of the body" that devalues prayer.
But despite these warnings, a yoga teacher from Derry defended the practice and described herself as "a good Catholic".
***** cool story bro. so what did your father say about jiu jitsu?
mindpowerisabitch i spent most of the video writing an essay explaining why its you who is evil and morally corrupt. please, don't engage in blame analysis. its always wrong and leads to really bad things happening in history. a lot of people suffered, died, and suffered a horrible death because a group of people believed status was the result of righteousness, and that we could fix our problems if we got rid of the 'loosers' in society.
Never said that i understand you perspective i just want you to consider how many people died because someone said i don't agree in this way of things and believe this is how it will go (basically). A long list of people will pop up. Let people approach the situation as they see fit .
Jiu jistu is definitely not for everyone.
I quit when i was 8 or so because it wasn't fun, the other boys were older and too rough, the instructor was too strict... and there were computer games to play instead... so my parents grounded me in my room :'(
I would love this for my 10 yr old daughter
Don’t let kids quiet jujutsu it’s great to learn
This is an awesome Video thanks for posting it you guys are really good about sharing information you have gained from experience really appreciate your work
Nick Unander excactly
What if we can not afford it anymore. Is that a reasonable reason?
Sounds legit to me. We missed tonight because we dont feel well. Makes me sad.
Yes, it
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I'm doing juijuiysu and I'm a teacher and they are doing it correctly, at the end of class, I always play a game but working on their reflexies
My kids school isn't fun at all the teacher just yells at them. They are treated like adults. Both of my children want to quit. That's why I'm watching this.
I think its interesting you mention the parents watching the class.
I remember vividly when I did karate some times my mom or dad would watch, and my mom would read a book or something else and I didn't think that was cool, my dad would watch and practice with me later. I remember one day they were showing how to break away from a grab and reset the distance, and after class my dad who had practiced judo, showed me a throw for the same situation witch I found much better because its stops the aggressor from just closing the distance again.
At my Taekwondo school, I've seen a lot of people leave. Most students that have established themselves, leave because they pick up something else, try to do both, and end up burning out. We've had students leave to do wrestling, soccer, or basketball, and in order to be competitive at a high school sport these days you have to train for it 12 months out of the year.
We have one girl, who was one of my mentors when I started, who quit TKD to do wrestling. There's summer wrestling camp, there's the fall training season, the actual wrestling season in winter, and then weightlifting in spring to maintain muscle for the next round.
Other students move off to college, get jobs, or just generally have life start to conflict.
never quit music too! :D
35:47 Rener - “... and her name was Terri.” LOL 🤣
My 8 year old son has ADHD and was in jujitsu, he had a hard time sitting stil sometimes during instruction. There were problems sometimes and I asked the instructor if everything was okay and he would always say everything was okay. Then after 2 years my son was basically kicked out, he was 6 when he started. This was a Renzo Gracie school, he wants to go back because he still has friends there. But really put off so might try Gracie Barra next.
Instructing many years you realize that some children are in it because the parents want them to be, others make it quite evident that they want to be there. Of course you're able to psychoanalyze and warm up to the children and make them interested but you can't force them to stay. OSU
Rener as a kid had a FUCKINgGGG smooth armbar
I'm going to try to employ some of these techniques on my partner's who I'm trying to assist/help learn a technique when I know it a little better than they do. Be encouraging and fun not so bossy.😂 Thank you.
Did u forget about money issues that shit is expensive bro
You can quit a school but you should never quit jiu-jitsu. If you can't afford monthly classes at a regular academy, get the DVD collection for $120 and work through the program from home with your child (with the added benefit of incredible bonding time with the child). Check the website in the description for details!
GracieAcademy Great video! You should include in the bully proof program the verbal role playing. Make a extra video. I think it would be really important.
matthiasgr555 I agree. Are there any videos on verbal role playing?
I get it you have to make money but with the ufc backing it you are at free range of pricing it what ever you guys want i seen in atleast nyc renzo gracie spot about 350 every month crazy im pretty sure your grandfather would be like theres no need to charge crazy on the people another thing why pay 120 you really cant learn unless u have a buddy not excuses but who really has time to come to your house and roll around these days people that signed up want to roll these are just my conserns on seeing popular martial arts sky rocket in pricing just cause its popular
NYCKILLA95 You make some very valid points. But, jiu jitsu is much more than physical. Here is an important mental aspect of jiu jitsu (all sports really): problem solving.
Yes, classes can be expensive. Yes, not everyone has someone they can depend on to train with regularly. Those are merely extra pieces of the problem. What can you do to solve it?
Well, nothing says you can't go to the schools and talk with the instructors. Most instructors are damn cool and would be willing to work out some sort of barter arrangement. You clean the school after classes and you attend for free, for example.
Second, you can also go to those schools and maybe find a member who is looking for extra training time. You can volunteer to be a rolling buddy. Even if they are waaaaaay better than you are, you will come out ahead. Remember, in jiu jitsu, there is no lose. You either win or you learn.
Third, you could post an ad in craigslist or even take out a personal in your newspaper. Sure, you may come across a few guys you don't mix with, but at least there's a chance that you find someone(s) to train with regularly.
Here's what I would do: I would focus most of my effort at the beginning on finding good training partners. Good in the sense that they are like-minded, not necessarily that they are skilled in jiu jitsu. When I have at least one partner, check out youtube, buy videos, post in forums, and when you can, attend seminars. If you are able, find out what it costs for a private session from your local BJJ school instructor. Every once in a while, I would go for a private session and get some correction.
See? Every problem has within it the seed for it's solution.
Good luck, my friend. I hope you enjoy the journey.
Top 3 reasons why people quit Jiu-Jitsu:
1. Sandbagging
2. Sandbagging
3. More sandbagging
(Did I mention sandbagging?)
***** When a student has technically improved enough that he warrants a belt promotion, the teacher in question withholds his promotion so that he will continue to compete at his current belt level (which is underrated) and continue to defeat his competitors from other schools, who have the correct rank. Thusly winning another medal for his individual school and inflating his school's status and prestige at the expense of the other schools. It is a means of manipulating the system to gain material benefit. The long-term result is that the people do not get rewarded for hard work, and the beginners cannot compete against other beginners because their division is "contaminated" by sandbaggers who should be promoted. It ruins the system by removing any sense of fairness. I draw a parallel between sandbagging and steroid use. Manipulating the system for one's personal benefit.
In 2000, Renzo Gracie's New York Academy was the most sandbagged school in America. It was also rated #1. Joey Scarola, who was a competitor on The Ultimate Fighter Season 7, was previously sandbagged as a blue belt. There was a point where he had purple belt skills, but still wore a blue belt on paper and competed against other blue belts. On one internet news story (I think it was on Grapplers.com), Renzo's students dominated over other competitors and openly said to him, "You can't hold us back any more, Renzo!"
NAGA (North American Grappling Association) now has rules to police sandbagging. If the referee in question determines that a competitor is sandbagging a division, he has the right to "promote" the sandbagger to the next higher belt division. The IBJJF (International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation) now prohibits a competitor from competing in a non-black belt division if he has already won that division in the past.
Definitely. The parents who let their weak, spoiled, entitled kids quit BJJ are going to end up having these same kids live with them until they die. These kids will quit college, quit their jobs, and live with their parents where they can play video games all day.
***** I believe that some academies will hold a higher standard just because they want to hold a higher standard and not necessarily because they want to sandbag.
I also believe there are many underhanded teachers who will manipulate the system for their own material benefit. A fledgling school is under a lot of pressure to make a name for itself to attract new students. To make a name for itself, it has to rake in those medals. A very convenient way to rake in the medals at tournaments is to sandbag. BJJ instructors are not morally perfect. They are driven by material self-interest, just like any human being.
My old teacher won the Mundial brown belt division in 1999. He only got a stripe on his brown belt. He competed again in the brown belt division in 2000 and won again. People were starting to complain (and rightly so). Do you really think his 8th-degree black belt instructor openly admitted to him that he was intentionally sandbagging him? Oh, please.
***** "You're telling me they don't sandbag intentionally, just hold different standards, then in your final paragraph you argue against what you just said."
No, I am telling you that SOME of them do not intentionally sandbag, and that SOME of them do. MANY of them do. I am NOT, at any point, saying that ALL of them do the same thing. Do you not understand this logic? The difference between SOME and ALL?
When the kids quit BJJ it reflects how their parents raised them. Kids who quit BJJ will quit anything. These kids will become the kind of young adults who go away to college then either "drop out" or "flunk out" after one semester. They are a product of their parental conditioning. They've never had to "stick to anything", and they only "choose to" stick to their video games and smartphones.
Awesome talk, very insightful, thanks guys
Given a mortgage, bills, car payments, etc. BJJ is not an economical sport for parents to send their kids to learn. Most in the Los Angeles area charge $110+. If you have more than one kid, it becomes increasingly difficult to pay. The market is there, it's that their pricing is wrong. Moreover, pricing for children's classes should be structured different. This kids don't start getting legitimate belts til late in youth. Why charge them like adults? If this sports wants to be globally recognized, it should be easier to join like wrestling or boxing.
My problem is that I do Jiu-Jitsu as a parent and I pull out my hair (I am bald now) then I watch my kids in the juniors class. They do ask me how they did after class and I sometimes tell them to focus and go over moved when we get home. They enjoy when we spend 5 to 10 minutes to go over moves.
Awww the part where Brian was playing with the kids
how about because it costs about 170 bux a month on average here in NY to train at a legit gym
Thank you Gracie Family for sharing your amazing art of Jiu-jitsu to the world. FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ONLY..
Amazing video guys great topic to talk about!
As a little one I got migraines a month, but for Judo back then which I kinda liked, just like today, some people lack a certain vibe at training due to personal or charachter, but also the gassing of the room, the glue and paint and smell, not stinky but chemical like may be.
Well said Patrick Quinn. I always will wonder however, if I had been encouraged a bit more by my Father, who had allowed me to quit: was I giving up for the wrong reasons? I still don't know. I suppose, different kids respond in different ways, based on personality and how they come to discover their true interests.
I'm only ten and I'm a blue and white belt in ju-jitsu
+Dylan Nolan well just remember not to quit when you are 12 :D and u will go far
Dylan Nolan did you quit?
My son has begun to feel overwhelmed in Jiu Jitsu right after entering the teens class. I'm not watching, but I think he's getting beaten by other teen boys - he's 12.5 and now too old and big for the 9-12 class. He showed me what's happening in the teens class and how he finds it really challenging and I told him that I agree with him; it must be really hard, but keep trying and learning the technique.
Any help would be appreciated because I think he's really good and will advance to his grey belt with some patience. He started 10 months ago.
Hows it going? What ended up happening?
The school I found called black lion in Michigan has their kids class broken into two sections and I got my girlfriends son into it at ten and he enjoys it and wants to practice what he learned when we get home
I want my kids to begin jitsu but they are not ready because their control isn't mature enough. So they're doing hapkido and taekwondo for now and I'm very very strict on thier studies and training. As I want them to complete what they begin. As this is s life continuing curriculum of self defence and perfection.
Something tells me this could have been a 10 minute long video and gotten the same point across.
Tulsa Gracie Certified Center I enrolled my kids after my son was kicked in the back of the head off the school bus... Im a divorced parent ... I knew something was wrong with my son...I found out and enrolled my kids into a system I know works being former military and law enforcement. My kids love it and Robert is on point and keeps it fun and real...The kids are going full time and Im going to start at sqr1 and be white belts with them. But I had to back off and let the team own it and give thumbs up in the seats or go handle my company issues and let the kids be kids...
I hope I never try to quit I'm 12 only been in for a bit less than a year I first trained with Fabio navaes it felt like home there I miss it then I moved to NC so my mom can go to duke university because she has an illness so we found a place down here they thought me my brother and and my sis were so good they put us in the adult class I can't wait to move back down to Florida so I can train with my jiu jitsu family
Both my kids, boy and girl, quit bjj after two years and now want to quit Muay Thai after one year and its heart breaking
I do both and would like to train with them but now they are at the age the will be able to train with me and the adults but want to give up before they get the chance
I think it is beyond important for my daugter to learn Jiu-Jistu. She is 7 years old and has been to a handful of classes but now wants to quit. She says she is not comfortable with the up close and personal aspet. How can I help her move on from this fear?
Some day I will have kids and 4 sure no doubt girl especially, I will put them in bjj. I was a lazy kid and my mom did really put limitations but for my kids I will get them in there. I started a few years back and I honestly enjoyed it. Today I am starting at a new academy. I am super pumped and a little nervous.
you say the parent should step away but you yourselves were coached by your father so what about kids who want to roll with their parents? should they say no?
This was really good!
hey guys I just now saw this video and I absolutely love it, However what do you do if the bully is your younger bigger brother but you don't want to fight because you don't want your mother to see brothers fighting how do you handle that, anyway love the videos keep up the great work.
Is 3 years old too young to participate? You mention ages 4 and up. Is it worth it to keep bringing kids so young? I fear they may be a distraction to the rest of the class. Is it better to take them out of class and bring them back when they are willing to sit in a circle or against the wall.
Some kids quit Jiu Jitsu because of the long process but some kids quit because their family have financial issues. Some families can’t afford paying for lessons for multiple years. But some also quit because they’ve got a busy schedule, my friend quit BJJ because he was too busy with school and he worked two jobs.
It’s not about Jiu Jitsu or any other specific sports. Kids grow and their horizon is expanding to all the more things in life has to offer, so why limit themselves to what happens in a box? Although I am convinced that this is a great school but not everyone is cut out for this kind of life.
IS this the guy that they had Bert Kreischer spar on his show back in the day when he was still a kid?
Must be balanced. Progress and fun, if is just fun then is not a martial arts school but a zoo, if us just progress and no fun, then is boot camp! It must be structured and not random. And character development must be included clearly in the curriculum.
OUR gym is like this little more strict .. i mean they have fun with obstacle stuff things like that... but my daughter 9 now been doing it since she was 4 .. clearly not that interested we have had months off here or there ... but she seems to still be scared and dont implement her technique she wrecks her 13 yr old brother at home but at gym she seems sooo lazy .. MIGUEL torres is our teacher love it there whole family participates
reason my kid quit jiu jitsu: there wasn't another kid in the class at his age, the next closest kid was 2 years older and had 2 years of experience, plus he was much stronger, and maybe 2 inches taller than my kid. when they rolled this kid destroyed my kid, mostly using tosses and trips and the instructors allowed the older kid to show out like a wwe wrestler after tossing my son to the ground or tapping him out. it was not only physically punishing to get manhandled like this, but being constantly humiliated with the showboating was too much for a 6 yr old to deal with. parents, be careful what you subject your children to!
I'm at 18:00 and we're something like 3 for 0 on "it's the parents" lmao... martial arts industry. Love you guys anyways.
If you want your kids to stick with bjj you have to set an example. Don't tell them to do something you don't want to do yourself. Its like parents who want their kids to play piano but you never listen to mozart, beethoven etc, just pop stuff. Why bother practicing when you won't even listen to it
I wish I had somewhere too train Ji-Jutsu.
thank you for this video!
Really intresting video =) I love Jiu-Jitsu
This would be a great way to play with my 5.5 year old grandson (Always attacks me in bed-ealy morning - when visiting trying to get me to watch cartoons with him lol.).