I hurt my hand last week and will be out for several days. i dont know what the hell happened. CF ear should be small unless you do wrestling and knee injuries should not happen as long as you dont do leg locks. My class does not do leg locks ever
IF you roll with controlled guys you will never get injured. The problem is most gyms are full of big spazzing guys or guys that are good and violent. I decided a few months ago to limit my rolling and I often just leave class on some days to limit the wear and tear. Maybe i look like a WIMP but I dont care
GracieAcademy - I'm not complaining. I love Rener's enthusiasm. Let me leave you with this quote: Peter Gibbons: So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life. Dr. Swanson: What about today? Is today the worst day of your life? Peter Gibbons: Yeah. Dr. Swanson: Wow, that's messed up.
+GracieAcademy, There needs to be more views for this or it's stuff that should be taught at all BJJ schools when students first join the class or join a section that involves grappling.
Do you know how common concussions are in BJJ? I presume not that common given the absence of striking. I have also spoken to a few blackbelts and they say they have never seen a concussion in BJJ.
+Patrick White many in competition. Also, being "dazed" is a concussion, thus, it's likely very underreported. Also, more common if you start from the feet and at shows that are lax on slamming.
Okay, you're a doctor and I'm not, but I have thought about this a great deal and I think you might be overestimating the number of concussions, and here's why. 1) It is commonly understood that a loss of consciousness is not necessarily correlated with the severity of an injury, as some people who experience devastating head-injuries do not lose consciousness and vice versa. 2) Jamming the neck can also produce concussion-like symptoms in the absence of an actual concussion, as neck trauma can reduce blood-flow the the brain (which can cause dizziness and nausea) and put pressure on the vestibular system, which can cause temporary deafness and/or ringing in the ears. There are many researchers now who think many concussion are actually mis-diagnosed neck injuries. 3) I read a study published in 2014 which found that in 5022 contests there was not a single concussion in BJJ. 4) A comprehensive Football study found that 1 quarter of 1% of head impacts registering at 80gs and above (which is like running head first into a wall) ended up being a concussion. 5) Putting this altogether this would suggest (to me at least) that if concussions were frequent in BJJ, at least some of them would be resulting in a loss of consciousness, and hence would be observable. And secondly, I would be surprised if many impacts in BJJ registered at 80gs and above. I completely accept that slamming someone's head into the mat would almost definitely cause a concussion though, as the force of doing that is massive --- probably over 150gs. There's a biomechanist called John Lloyd who has shown that the acceleration from even short-falls is enormous.
I love your honesty about this stuff. Some martial artists like to pretend they are supermen that feel no pain. Injuries are the limiting factor in any sport and by talking about managing them, you advance the whole MA world.
Injured my shoulder during a forward roll in quarter guard last night. Was trying the back take from quarter guard... we were speeding up repetitions, and taking turns. One of the forward rolls on my right shoulder popped. Now it is really stiff. Hurts a bit. I tried the technique one more time because I wasn’t sure if I was injured. When I tried it again is was painful. I’m praying it heals up soon
I am just 17 and just herniated a disc in my low back and had to have surgery on it so I know the exact type of terrible pain you were feeling in your leg Rener. The recovery time is super long, but I wouldn't have found out about Gracie Jiu Jitsu without being immobile and stumbling on the Gracie Breakdowns from UA-cam :)
I’m 10 months post ACL surgery on my knee. Had a full thickness tear and exactly what Rener said just went the way it shouldn’t whilst I was in a butterfly position looking for a sweep. Love bjj but unsure if I will return as I have a full time job and a mortgage to pay and can’t afford another 4 months off if an injury was like this time happen again
A Good chiropractor can be immediate relief with the nerve injury. Once you're out of alignment, you must get ur spine realigned... guaranteed to take less time to recover... ty for this video!!! I'm currently recovering from a sacral injury, thank God I can walk!!! Stretch, ice, rest, & learn from it...
I lifted a heavy box leading to slipped disc throwing me off practise I have the same siatica problem. Been regretting picking that dumb box every day cuz I had a good start into the sport and now I'm thrown off balance out of my game..... Thank you you for these videos. Brings me a ray of sunshine in my dark days...
I've got a chronic back and neck pain caused by a genetic spinal flaw. The flaw is that the construction and connection of my spinal chord is significantly weaker than average. I had back therapy for this, which trained my belly and back muscles to support my spinal handicap. I haven't had any problems with it when rolling untill recently a Try-out from a different gym in England who's a wrestler started rolling with me, went for a double takedown, got stuffed and then just back bodydropped me into the matt and tried to pin me (which wasn't a wincondition) in a Wrestling kind of way. Because I was not used to this, he just drove my neck into the matt even further and causing nerve pains in my neck the harder he pushed probably because he wanted me to tap out, I framed my head around which lead to me being in the ideal position for a guillotine and ending the spar. Jiu Jitsu quite litterally saved me from a broken neck here and I am ever so gratefull!
I had an hernia for years..the pain in the lower back, leg and everything , I saw it in the MRI .. but I found out that the cause was too much stress, too many hours in the computer with a bad posture...now “working from home” taking breaks like every 30 minutes and the same for when I’m studying I was getting better so I decided to do Bjj and that was when the pain Disappeared ! I do not feel the pain anymore .. I think obviously I’m getting stronger but I can asure you: The fact that you have an hernia does not mean that you are going to feel it.. and the only thing that worked was rest and bjj combined.. all those hours in the chiropractor didn’t work..
I am into Muay Thai since approximate 8 years and into BJJ 2 months and have more injuries than I had ever with Muay Thai (knee, shoulder -> it still sucks, spine). It is 200 % important to do a proper warm-up before training and a good streching after the session.
Rener, thank you so much. You just saved my love for jiujitsu. I had a really hard rubber band pull with a training partner for a hour class of ONLY butterfly guard. I think I’ll be able to mention it now without causing an issue. Again, thank you.
There's a spot on this video where Rener and Alex are talking about hand-fighting that I totally love. My story goes beyond the scope of this video's subject, but it's a testament to my training. Lately, I started rolling with some friends again. One of them caught me in a guillotine attempt from starting in a kneeling position. Automatically, I hook her arm, pull it down, and work on moving my butt to the opposite side of the choke. After a minute in that guillotine attempt, I won't lie, I saw rainbow snow and had a bit of a lightheaded spell from one artery being half-compressed. I still got my head out of there and assumed standard side control in the cross-mount. From there, she got back mount on me and I thought, "All right, girl! You wanna go there? Let's do this!" because I wanted to show her I could defend her choke attempts by hand fighting. So I let her get a full back mount on me, and I started blocking and pinning one of her arms and holding the other. Long story short on that: she didn't lock in the RNC on me. So we're clear, Gracie Academy brothers, that partner is 5'5" and in the women's featherweight to lightweight range. She and I also kept it playful, too. But with her and all my other BJJ partners in and beyond the CTC, I keep it playful. I feel my arm about to go straight in an armbar, I tap -- they got me because I didn't stack and position to lessen the effects in time. I get caught in a foot lock before I can get my shin on their butt to go upright and get out of it, I tap -- they got me. And it's not because they're better than I am, but because I learned from watching and listening to you and my CTC instructors in Kansas about tapping to avoid getting seriously hurt and delaying my chances at the blue belt brass ring I'm still shooting for. So my thanks and respect to all of you in Torrance, and I'll keep on keeping it playful until we meet face to face one day.
Currently dealing with a lower back injury from a really well-executed guard sweep that tied up my hands and put my training partner's full weight slamming down on top of me (to the point where my 5yo daughter, who was training about 15 feet away, stopped and said, "Dad, are you okay?"). Jiu jitsu at 41 is a lot different than jiu jitsu at 18 (I took a 20+ year break), but my love for it has not changed at all. I am taking a week off (gym is closed for the Independence Day holiday, so the timing is right) and I will be following these training concepts going forward. Thanks!
I really love these videos about injury and Jiu-Jitsu. I had a L-5, S-1 fusion. Screws, cage and pins. I really needed to get my health back. I am 44 now and I was using a walker, on all kinds of meds. I no longer am on meds, I do use a cane sometimes. But, I love everything about Gracie Humaita Jiu-Jitsu. I started training Gracie Jiu-Jitsu 1 month ago. Very worried about causing more injury to myself. But, the instructor and the other students are Awesome. No one is trying to injure anyone. I wish I would have started training years ago. I'm very thankful I decided to take the step to take the step and train in a Gracie gym. I also am going to start the Gracie diet. I loom forward to training as long as I physically can. My Respect to you and sincerest Thanks.. 😀
I am dealing with a jiu jitsu injury right now! We both cared too much! It was a guillotine set up and I got to the side - but the guy was REALLY pulling on my head!
I recently got a first degree AC shoulder separation, it kills me to be out of jiu-jitsu cuz I love training but this video has given me some insight on what to do till I'm healed and how to roll when I'm getting better, thanks!
por favor, me encantan los videos, pero podrían traducirlos de vez en cuando, me cuesta demasiado entenderlos, ojala algún día vengan a Guadalajara, sería todo un honor tenerlos aquí.
I appreciate you guys informing students/internet about injuries, lower back injuries & herniated disks especially, although I don’t practice bjj or any other martial art I too had a rather large bulging and herniated disk that required surgery to fix, After 2 yrs I feel a lot better and pain free, only watching this video because I’m considering learning bjj once things with covid calm down and schools/gyms open up again, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t terrified of re-injuring my self and feeling all the pain again, granted this video is 5yrs old don’t know if you guy’s still practice or what , just stumbled upon this video, but if one you also experienced a surgery cause of a herniated disk and still practices bjj, it’s gives me a little hope that I can too someday, idk? Haha
Thanyour Rener and Alex for this video. Ive been having trouble with my shoulder the past few weeks and tonight i tried the simple trick of putting my hand inside my belt. Not only was there no pain during and after training i was actually rolling better because i wasnt so focused on watching my arm movements!
Glad I watched this. I suffered a neck injury and haven't trained in over a month because the pain shooting down my arms is terrible. I got a nerve conduction study done a few weeks ago and it determined that I definitely have nerve impingement. It is so frustrating because I really want to train but I don't want to risk my neck getting hurt more (I have several injuries already from fighting overseas). I think I'm gonna hit the mats again and just go real easy and let my partners know that I'm hurt...and swallow my pride and tap when I feel my neck in a bad position...
I weight train/gym 5 hours a week and do GJJ 5 hours a week. Double whammy. At 41 its gotten to the point where I am going to have to cut back on lifting heavy and move to light weight high reps to ensure I do not miss anymore jiu-jitsu.
Thanks Rener and Alex. Great video. Just helps to be fit /happy and enjoy bjj (and other sports) and learn how to avoid these injuries. Always great to learn from others experiences to avoid dumb injuries we don't see coming and newbies.
I think that 90% of injuries in jujitsu can be avoided if you can get it through your head that you aren’t there to win. You’re there to learn. Tap early and tap often. Play and have fun and don’t fight. Let the jujitsu do the work. Only took me 20 years of inconsistent training due to injuries to figure this out. Would have been a black belt 10 years ago if I hadn’t been so hardheaded. Now I’m 40, and I just got my purple belt. Finally able to train consistently. I’m bummed out that I missed all those years, but at least I have the ones that are ahead of me.
My throat got screwed up from a quick choke. Couldn't swallow and woke up in the middle of the night from pain. Felt like strep. Luckly it started hurting less the next day. Lower ribs get sore from practicing with big guys.
thank u Rener, I was freaking out earlier before I watch this video because I got a neck injury from a guillotine but now I know since it's muscle related its not that serious
I wish I watched this video months ago!!! Dealing with a torn meniscus (I think) and ive been out for a couple months now. It definitely showed me what I was doing wrong, and this video has cemented those lessons.
Tri-pod sweep while guy on the ground had de la riva and good tight wrist control i landed all weight on ym shoulder and now i have a A-C Seperation in my shoulder looks lke a few months before i can roll again. Def still gotta keep going to class you can still learn alot from watching.
I’ve been out of action for since August 3rd due to a thumb injury and probably won’t go back until next week for one day.... being injured sucks but it’s apart of the game
Buy monkey tape. I like the 0.2" stuff. Tape your fingers like Keenan shows in his video on here, then buddy the middle and ring fingers together. This takes a while the first several times but after you get good at it you can do it in about 5 minutes. I only used to tape after my fingers already hurt, and they took FOREVER to heal. Now I tape them preventatively, and they MOSTLY don't hurt at all. I usually ignore the pinky because it's never even been a little sore after training. It's usually my middle fingers that hurt the worst.
Bros, thanks so much for the info! I have been very concerned with a recent neck injury going for a roll from turtle position into a bow and arrow choke on a heavy opponent, trying to stop the roll causing all his weight on my neck while I was inverted... locked up immediately, has put an end to ALL training which is very stressful and am glad to have come across some advice and info to calm my concerns. cheers fellas
I recommend teaching students how to fall properly. I started training about a month and a half ago and have had some shoulder and neck injuries from falls (primarily during take-down techniques).
I know a girl who broke her collar bone when she got thrown so you are very correct. One issue however, is that i think she was scared and didn't land right because of it. You do have to protect yourself but you also have to trust the technique
You should be proud at your age for having the courage to get on the mat. Our bodies all die so no point in stressing too much over injuries. Injuries are badges of honor though it is best to minimize them as they can hold us back in everyday life which sucks. Make sure you let it heal before getting back to it. Also, at your age, roll with the higher belt ranks who have control and respect, not big muscle idiots with testosterone fueling their need to beat everyone.
This is great. Wish I had seen this but I don't think it would have mattered. I had to learn the hard way... I'm nursing a back injury... Rolling too hard... After it heals, I'll be more careful...So much more careful!! Don't know know how long this is gonna take to heal though. Hope it's not 10 months but if it is, that's what it is... Thanks for the great vids!!
+DougyDeeDoo Sure it's no big deal to straighten and tape your fingers. But it's very difficult to grip with straight fingers. So yeah, you can easily repair injured fingers. But injured fingers are difficult to train with.
+Aaron Wolbach i agree iv done this often so straighten the break and then tape in a slight bent position so you can grip. It sucks but pain killers help and avoid putting to much pressure on the break other than that you've gotta grit your teeth.
+Aaron Wolbach happened last months at my mma gym. we were warming up spinning around on the back, and one guy managed to get his finger dislocated, and one of the members is a "doctor" (soon atleast) and he pulled it back, taped it. and he kept rolling. no problem.
Jorgen Schroen So he was rolling no-gi? Because if you're rolling with a gi on and broken fingers, your gripping game is gonna suffer. EDIT: But yeah, even with a gi you can still roll with injured fingers. It's just that injured fingers can majorly impact the effectiveness of your jiu jitsu while otherwise being a minor injury.
awesome topic! injuries are the worst in any sport, where the mind is willing but the body is not. On a side note I see potential in a yoga/stretching vid for getting that gymnast-like spinal flexibility.
Have two slipped discs in the cervical spine..I fell in love with bjj and don't want to stop it but I am scared a little bit because the pain was so sick.. Don't want to experience it again...
I have a low back herniated disc with degenerative disc disease. And it's bone spurring. Between L3 L4 I still try to train jiu jitsu. But I choose to help the other person. I am just a training partner. And I don't try to see myself as competing against my partner. I am like a drilling dummy. A selfless person. I just help my brother drill techniques. And that's good enough for me. I'm 33. I try to learn the techniques as well. But I choose the techniques wisely. It's good enough for me. I trained and competed when I was 22. I'm getting back into it. But for different reasons. I'm in it to help others. I could care less about my jiu jitsu. I do care about my jiu jitsu. But not as much as before. I am very careful. I'm just there to help my partner learn. It's the best way for me.
I used my head as a base point once when my partner behind me (I know dumb but I'm a white belt lol). I got nudged forward and felt a snap at the back of my neck. The next day complete lock up. After a good month I finally felt better. lesson learned: never use your head as base point when in turtle. maybe shoulder or just go on your side.
Great Info!! I currently have a neck injury (C5 - pinch nerve, bone spurns) and sciatica nerve pain that I didn't address right away since I thought a few days or rest would fix it. I guess I was wrong so I am still suffering the effects right now. In PT now though and working my way back.
Stiff neck could be an indication of vertebral artery dissection so better be careful with that. It happened to me! I ended up with a stroke and had to relearn how to walk...
ethan Dupras If that's true, I'd highly recommend you see a doctor. Heel hooks are notorious for ACL (and surrounding tendon) injuries. These are tears that can allow you to do things like walk and jog but be pretty serious.
a little fyi... disks don't slip. they prolapse which is a hernia due to extreme pressure usually, the facete joint is the one that slips... but understand what your saying.. still love your videos thank you.
Be careful your training to be a warrior but there's no purpose in your training. because you don't need to be a black belt to defend yourself. You are going to get hurt you could get hospitalized you could lose your job if you have a family you're taking a huge risk. No matter where you go the people are going to make money off of you showing up to class are never going to give you full disclosure if you actually knew how many injuries and lives get messed up becoming a warrior you probably wouldn't study. You're studying to become a warrior you're studying to go to war where you're trying to avoid death so all injuries that are short of death or a win but that's not the case of modern every day life.
Some men are sick of today's bland and meaningless existence and crave that sense of overcoming danger. The danger is what makes it worth it. Warrior spirit
I train at my gym 8 times a week. I never feel like I'm going to die in a war. Half the guys in my gym are in the military. I don't think going to the gym feels like going to war either.
Traction and re-traction therapy IS THE BOMB, I have muscle tone loss in my left calf because of sciatica damage, in which I did not know how to stretch the piriformis to start to relieve pain. I then bought a nice inversion table and started inverting at only about 75 degrees daily which gravity takes over and slowly pulls the spine apart allowing the discs to re-align and stop the bulging disc which when they bulge, the edges of the discs touch the sciatic nerve and that's part of the pain he was talking about shooting down the leg. Reduce salt intake, and drink a shit load of water to get the muscles hydrated and you will live to choke some out again. ;)
Just got back from training my buddy and I who are both white belts rolled from one side of the dojo to the other constantly reversing with sweeps we laughed because you know how when your rolling you don't think about which way the game is taking you. the professor thought it was funny but man does my neck hurt. I think I may have strained my neck. I just kept stretching it feels 95% better.
I have suffered every injury you’ve spoken of and trained through the pain, but last week I fucked up my rib and I don’t know if I can roll with this. Can’t even pick up my 6 month old son right now... super frustrating.
Hi Rener, I had microdiscectomy (L5-s1) surgery for my spine just few days back. I hurt my back few years back while rolling on the matt.Do you happen to know people who have gone through discectomy surgery and made it back to the matt. Could you please share their stories if any for people like us who want to get back to training after surgeries
Tonight was my fourth lesson in BJJ after joining a local gym 6 days ago. A new white belt is introduced to everyone and after warming up, we both get paired up together for drills. We start with a lesson of an armbar technique and a few different variations and ways to applicate. Whenever it was his turn he would explode through my hand grips and really extend and turn my arm once he had it locked in to the correct postion. I'm thinking: what the fuck is this guy doing; and I tell him that it's hurting. He says sorry, and lessens his energy and strength by about 10 percent, but it is still really straining. The sound of the buzzer ends that nightmare and now it's time for free rolls. I start with a blue belt and we end in a draw with no successful subs from either side! Really proud of that because she tried really hard. The next two times I went up against white belts and get tapped at the end of the rounds with none of my own subs being successful. My fourth roll I get paired with the brand new guy from before and I really dominate him for about 2 minutes with until I start to get gassed out from my previous exchanges and his constant explosive movements. He explode rolls me off of my mount from his chest and I end up on my back. He then sort of half stands up with on of his hands on my gi sleeve and dives in to me with an extended knee which I couldn't block and lands on my upper right chest. I immediately feel a burning/searing pain, and a shortness of breathe. I ask him to stop because it really hurts and he obliges. For context I weigh approx 62-65kg (skinny) and stand 5ft 11, he weighs approx 75-80kg (somewhat stocky) and is about 6ft 1. He says sorry again and we continue. I am still in pain and try to defend as he pulls me in to his guard and starts working for triangle around my neck, I cannot defend due to the pain from being pulled in to guard and the pressure of his legs moving up around my body. I tap and leave the mats clutching my chest after he locks the triangle in successfully. I get through the last roll of the night through pure grit against a blue belt whom I hadn't previously rolled with. I told him what happened, and even though he went a bit easy on me, he probably did more damage after trying some fancy techniques on me. I then walked 10 -15 minutes home after the lesson ends. Any time I inhale, exhale, stretch, turn or bend my upper body it is very painful. I am going in to whatever clinic I can for x-rays tomorrow to find out how bad the damage is. I love BJJ and want to start training everyday I love it so much, but now I know I won't be able to return to the mat and participate in the lessons I have to pay for because this idiot took it too far.
Ice has been proven to constrict blood flow slowing recovery. Warmth opens blood flow and speeds healing. I have a military dislocated lower back and heat works best for me. Everyone and every injury is different though.
After only 2 weeks into this BJJ thing, I’ve seem to have developed an injury I call “ Jiu-Jitsu Noodle Arm”. Hurts like hell where my bicep meets my elbow, aching and radiating pain up and down my arm. And it’s VERY weak. I’m certain I developed this after refusing to let go of a choke hold. I’ve been gorilla gripping and trying to use brute strength to overcome my la k of skill and technique. Now I’m injured. So bummed.
Not even 2 weeks after my 1st ever bjj train, and I got a popped rib from a guy - pain is very disconfortable, and I think I have to go see a doc, due to rib crackling noise when I breath deeply. Not saying it was the other guy's fault (he might not have had the notion), but maybe we should know/be shown a bit about this before even entering the mat for the 1st time.
I was hoping this video would alleviate some fears and allow me to start training BJJ. Sadly, it had 100% the opposite effect. I may have to let this dream go.
i pulled my groin last year. it's still not at 100% but I've had to get very technical since then. Usually I would rely on my natural athleticism. I had to learn how to defend the guard pass in different ways on each side. If it didn't happen I'd probably be pushing full throttle but I'd less tricky. especially being 6'3" and 250 pounds no one expects me to move faster or slip their pressure like a small guy.
No doubt he may have herniated a disc, but a little later Rener said the disc came out of position. He may not have even realized he said it that way but just in case, it's worth knowing that discs can herniate or bulge, but they don't move or slip. It's common to hear the phrase, "slipped disc", but it's a misnomer.
I'm 71 140lbs and had a 250lbs person do a trap and roll but she is not capable of landing on her knees. She landed on my hip. She just could not control her weight and many of us white belts are not good at controlling our weight or strength. I have to be choosy in picking partners and which moves we do. I'm still sore a month later but ok.❤
... nothing on finger and toes? Those are very common to break, know a few that have now disfigured finger from jitz and effects them daily. Even if you tape it, it's still messed up and hurts, especially on your dominate hand. Then hand operation, down time, etc.
I got my knee torn so bad in bjj i need to have acl reconstruction , i used to like grappling but now i think its the most stupid thing ive ever done in my life and i will regret going to a bjj school forever.
Martial Arts UK - CMAUK Sorry about your injury. I quit Jiu-jitsu after a fractured cervical vertebrae (C3), a broken capitulum in my elbow, a dislocated shoulder, and a broken foot. I loved Jiu-jitsu, but the injuries weren't worth it. At the age of 40, (this year) I decided to quit.
Angelo DelSenno worst injury ever hope you manage to recover. worlds best self defence seems to put alot of people in hospital whilst " learning " :/ if I could sue I would lol 2 years out of life because of big head bara instructor
13:34 Neck Injuries
21:32 Knee Injuries
27:39 Shoulder Injuries
32:10 Cauliflower Ear
39:41 Ego Injuries
44:22 Skin
I hurt my hand last week and will be out for several days. i dont know what the hell happened. CF ear should be small unless you do wrestling and knee injuries should not happen as long as you dont do leg locks. My class does not do leg locks ever
My biggest injuries is watching out for Guard Kimuras and shoulder problems. You have to see them coming and tap fast.
Arm injuries should never happen much because you can easily see your arm being extended then you tap
What about groin !! Damn
IF you roll with controlled guys you will never get injured. The problem is most gyms are full of big spazzing guys or guys that are good and violent. I decided a few months ago to limit my rolling and I often just leave class on some days to limit the wear and tear. Maybe i look like a WIMP but I dont care
Rener starts every video by saying, "this is probably the MOST IMPORTANT discussion we've ever had with you guys"
Jesse Tomlinson The same way every day you wake up is the best day you've ever had.
GracieAcademy - I'm not complaining. I love Rener's enthusiasm. Let me leave you with this quote:
Peter Gibbons: So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.
Dr. Swanson: What about today? Is today the worst day of your life?
Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
Dr. Swanson: Wow, that's messed up.
+Jesse Tomlinson Office Space!?
GracieAcademy gang gang gang
+GracieAcademy, There needs to be more views for this or it's stuff that should be taught at all BJJ schools when students first join the class or join a section that involves grappling.
An amazing video like this deserves a quick reference:
1. Low Back (5:22) 2. Neck (13:34) 3. Knee (21:33) 4. Shoulder (27:39) 5. Ears (32:08)
As a Doctor, and a 17 year BJJ practitioner, I will say this is solid advice! Excellent analogy with the rubber band as well.
Do you know how common concussions are in BJJ? I presume not that common given the absence of striking. I have also spoken to a few blackbelts and they say they have never seen a concussion in BJJ.
+Patrick White many in competition. Also, being "dazed" is a concussion, thus, it's likely very underreported. Also, more common if you start from the feet and at shows that are lax on slamming.
I see. Have you ever suffered a concussion in BJJ?
Okay, you're a doctor and I'm not, but I have thought about this a great deal and I think you might be overestimating the number of concussions, and here's why. 1) It is commonly understood that a loss of consciousness is not necessarily correlated with the severity of an injury, as some people who experience devastating head-injuries do not lose consciousness and vice versa. 2) Jamming the neck can also produce concussion-like symptoms in the absence of an actual concussion, as neck trauma can reduce blood-flow the the brain (which can cause dizziness and nausea) and put pressure on the vestibular system, which can cause temporary deafness and/or ringing in the ears. There are many researchers now who think many concussion are actually mis-diagnosed neck injuries. 3) I read a study published in 2014 which found that in 5022 contests there was not a single concussion in BJJ. 4) A comprehensive Football study found that 1 quarter of 1% of head impacts registering at 80gs and above (which is like running head first into a wall) ended up being a concussion. 5) Putting this altogether this would suggest (to me at least) that if concussions were frequent in BJJ, at least some of them would be resulting in a loss of consciousness, and hence would be observable. And secondly, I would be surprised if many impacts in BJJ registered at 80gs and above. I completely accept that slamming someone's head into the mat would almost definitely cause a concussion though, as the force of doing that is massive --- probably over 150gs. There's a biomechanist called John Lloyd who has shown that the acceleration from even short-falls is enormous.
"Okay, you're a doctor and I'm not,"
And that's where your comment should have ended.
I love your honesty about this stuff. Some martial artists like to pretend they are supermen that feel no pain. Injuries are the limiting factor in any sport and by talking about managing them, you advance the whole MA world.
Shoulder injuries: 27:40
Thanks😂😂
that's what i am here for lol
Thanks homie.
Kimura from Guard can be the worst
Injured my shoulder during a forward roll in quarter guard last night. Was trying the back take from quarter guard... we were speeding up repetitions, and taking turns. One of the forward rolls on my right shoulder popped. Now it is really stiff. Hurts a bit. I tried the technique one more time because I wasn’t sure if I was injured. When I tried it again is was painful.
I’m praying it heals up soon
I am just 17 and just herniated a disc in my low back and had to have surgery on it so I know the exact type of terrible pain you were feeling in your leg Rener. The recovery time is super long, but I wouldn't have found out about Gracie Jiu Jitsu without being immobile and stumbling on the Gracie Breakdowns from UA-cam :)
I’m 10 months post ACL surgery on my knee. Had a full thickness tear and exactly what Rener said just went the way it shouldn’t whilst I was in a butterfly position looking for a sweep.
Love bjj but unsure if I will return as I have a full time job and a mortgage to pay and can’t afford another 4 months off if an injury was like this time happen again
Just had knee replacement surgery 7 months ago and want to get started again, but I am so afraid of this knee twisting the wrong way.
Yes. Alex is very well spoken and concise with his instruction. I wish I could go to more night classes to learn from him
A Good chiropractor can be immediate relief with the nerve injury. Once you're out of alignment, you must get ur spine realigned... guaranteed to take less time to recover... ty for this video!!! I'm currently recovering from a sacral injury, thank God I can walk!!! Stretch, ice, rest, & learn from it...
I lifted a heavy box leading to slipped disc throwing me off practise I have the same siatica problem. Been regretting picking that dumb box every day cuz I had a good start into the sport and now I'm thrown off balance out of my game..... Thank you you for these videos. Brings me a ray of sunshine in my dark days...
I've got a chronic back and neck pain caused by a genetic spinal flaw. The flaw is that the construction and connection of my spinal chord is significantly weaker than average. I had back therapy for this, which trained my belly and back muscles to support my spinal handicap. I haven't had any problems with it when rolling untill recently a Try-out from a different gym in England who's a wrestler started rolling with me, went for a double takedown, got stuffed and then just back bodydropped me into the matt and tried to pin me (which wasn't a wincondition) in a Wrestling kind of way. Because I was not used to this, he just drove my neck into the matt even further and causing nerve pains in my neck the harder he pushed probably because he wanted me to tap out, I framed my head around which lead to me being in the ideal position for a guillotine and ending the spar. Jiu Jitsu quite litterally saved me from a broken neck here and I am ever so gratefull!
Bed Head fuck you.
I herniated l4 and l5 and I have never been the same. Thanks very much for the information
I had an hernia for years..the pain in the lower back, leg and everything , I saw it in the MRI .. but I found out that the cause was too much stress, too many hours in the computer with a bad posture...now “working from home” taking breaks like every 30 minutes and the same for when I’m studying I was getting better so I decided to do Bjj and that was when the pain Disappeared ! I do not feel the pain anymore .. I think obviously I’m getting stronger but I can asure you: The fact that you have an hernia does not mean that you are going to feel it.. and the only thing that worked was rest and bjj combined.. all those hours in the chiropractor didn’t work..
You guys inspired me to do budo-jitsu and it really changed my life
Thank you 🙌🙏
I am into Muay Thai since approximate 8 years and into BJJ 2 months and have more injuries than I had ever with Muay Thai (knee, shoulder -> it still sucks, spine). It is 200 % important to do a proper warm-up before training and a good streching after the session.
How did you hurt you knee ?? I hurt my hand the other day and will be out for several days
Rener, thank you so much. You just saved my love for jiujitsu. I had a really hard rubber band pull with a training partner for a hour class of ONLY butterfly guard. I think I’ll be able to mention it now without causing an issue. Again, thank you.
There's a spot on this video where Rener and Alex are talking about hand-fighting that I totally love. My story goes beyond the scope of this video's subject, but it's a testament to my training.
Lately, I started rolling with some friends again. One of them caught me in a guillotine attempt from starting in a kneeling position. Automatically, I hook her arm, pull it down, and work on moving my butt to the opposite side of the choke.
After a minute in that guillotine attempt, I won't lie, I saw rainbow snow and had a bit of a lightheaded spell from one artery being half-compressed. I still got my head out of there and assumed standard side control in the cross-mount.
From there, she got back mount on me and I thought, "All right, girl! You wanna go there? Let's do this!" because I wanted to show her I could defend her choke attempts by hand fighting. So I let her get a full back mount on me, and I started blocking and pinning one of her arms and holding the other. Long story short on that: she didn't lock in the RNC on me.
So we're clear, Gracie Academy brothers, that partner is 5'5" and in the women's featherweight to lightweight range. She and I also kept it playful, too.
But with her and all my other BJJ partners in and beyond the CTC, I keep it playful. I feel my arm about to go straight in an armbar, I tap -- they got me because I didn't stack and position to lessen the effects in time. I get caught in a foot lock before I can get my shin on their butt to go upright and get out of it, I tap -- they got me. And it's not because they're better than I am, but because I learned from watching and listening to you and my CTC instructors in Kansas about tapping to avoid getting seriously hurt and delaying my chances at the blue belt brass ring I'm still shooting for.
So my thanks and respect to all of you in Torrance, and I'll keep on keeping it playful until we meet face to face one day.
Currently dealing with a lower back injury from a really well-executed guard sweep that tied up my hands and put my training partner's full weight slamming down on top of me (to the point where my 5yo daughter, who was training about 15 feet away, stopped and said, "Dad, are you okay?").
Jiu jitsu at 41 is a lot different than jiu jitsu at 18 (I took a 20+ year break), but my love for it has not changed at all. I am taking a week off (gym is closed for the Independence Day holiday, so the timing is right) and I will be following these training concepts going forward. Thanks!
I really love these videos about injury and Jiu-Jitsu. I had a L-5, S-1 fusion. Screws, cage and pins.
I really needed to get my health back. I am 44 now and I was using a walker, on all kinds of meds. I no longer am on meds, I do use a cane sometimes.
But, I love everything about Gracie Humaita Jiu-Jitsu.
I started training Gracie Jiu-Jitsu 1 month ago. Very worried about causing more injury to myself. But, the instructor and the other students are Awesome. No one is trying to injure anyone. I wish I would have started training years ago. I'm very thankful I decided to take the step to take the step and train in a Gracie gym. I also am going to start the Gracie diet.
I loom forward to training as long as I physically can. My Respect to you and sincerest Thanks..
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True warrior here. Respect!
This is solid advice. The rubber band analogy is spot on.
I am dealing with a jiu jitsu injury right now! We both cared too much! It was a guillotine set up and I got to the side - but the guy was REALLY pulling on my head!
I recently got a first degree AC shoulder separation, it kills me to be out of jiu-jitsu cuz I love training but this video has given me some insight on what to do till I'm healed and how to roll when I'm getting better, thanks!
o shit , u just realized why my right shoulder hurt so much sometimes and it fells generally lose .
Man this video its pure GOLD for us !
I fractured my ankle last week rolling , have to be off the matt for a month and the worst part is that i just started a month ago . 😔
Angie Maldonado how's the training going now
did you get back to training?
It's only just begun
Outstanding video. It probably is one of the most important videos you've ever done.
por favor, me encantan los videos, pero podrían traducirlos de vez en cuando, me cuesta demasiado entenderlos, ojala algún día vengan a Guadalajara, sería todo un honor tenerlos aquí.
Great video as a Doctor of Chiropractic you guys nailed how we can help misaligned vertebrae and "slipped" discs.
I appreciate you guys informing students/internet about injuries, lower back injuries & herniated disks especially, although I don’t practice bjj or any other martial art I too had a rather large bulging and herniated disk that required surgery to fix, After 2 yrs I feel a lot better and pain free, only watching this video because I’m considering learning bjj once things with covid calm down and schools/gyms open up again, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t terrified of re-injuring my self and feeling all the pain again, granted this video is 5yrs old don’t know if you guy’s still practice or what , just stumbled upon this video, but if one you also experienced a surgery cause of a herniated disk and still practices bjj, it’s gives me a little hope that I can too someday, idk? Haha
At the end you ended up doing BJJ?
Great video. I just got injured yesterday at open mat. Looking forward to healing fast and getting back to training!
Thanyour Rener and Alex for this video. Ive been having trouble with my shoulder the past few weeks and tonight i tried the simple trick of putting my hand inside my belt. Not only was there no pain during and after training i was actually rolling better because i wasnt so focused on watching my arm movements!
Glad I watched this. I suffered a neck injury and haven't trained in over a month because the pain shooting down my arms is terrible. I got a nerve conduction study done a few weeks ago and it determined that I definitely have nerve impingement. It is so frustrating because I really want to train but I don't want to risk my neck getting hurt more (I have several injuries already from fighting overseas). I think I'm gonna hit the mats again and just go real easy and let my partners know that I'm hurt...and swallow my pride and tap when I feel my neck in a bad position...
I weight train/gym 5 hours a week and do GJJ 5 hours a week. Double whammy. At 41 its gotten to the point where I am going to have to cut back on lifting heavy and move to light weight high reps to ensure I do not miss anymore jiu-jitsu.
Thanks Rener and Alex. Great video.
Just helps to be fit /happy and enjoy bjj (and other sports) and learn how to avoid these injuries.
Always great to learn from others experiences to avoid dumb injuries we don't see coming and newbies.
I think that 90% of injuries in jujitsu can be avoided if you can get it through your head that you aren’t there to win. You’re there to learn. Tap early and tap often. Play and have fun and don’t fight. Let the jujitsu do the work.
Only took me 20 years of inconsistent training due to injuries to figure this out. Would have been a black belt 10 years ago if I hadn’t been so hardheaded. Now I’m 40, and I just got my purple belt. Finally able to train consistently. I’m bummed out that I missed all those years, but at least I have the ones that are ahead of me.
On one of my very first days training bjj I broke a finger and 1 month later injured a few ribs. Not a great start, but I am still practicing.
My throat got screwed up from a quick choke. Couldn't swallow and woke up in the middle of the night from pain. Felt like strep. Luckly it started hurting less the next day. Lower ribs get sore from practicing with big guys.
same bro
And i dont even do bjj its just my drunk frend who does :D
Is that you Mike Chang ?
Spin Laden. No it's Mike Chong.
thank u Rener, I was freaking out earlier before I watch this video because I got a neck injury from a guillotine but now I know since it's muscle related its not that serious
Go see a doctor anyway, neck problems are serious
I wish I watched this video months ago!!! Dealing with a torn meniscus (I think) and ive been out for a couple months now. It definitely showed me what I was doing wrong, and this video has cemented those lessons.
Tri-pod sweep while guy on the ground had de la riva and good tight wrist control i landed all weight on ym shoulder and now i have a A-C Seperation in my shoulder looks lke a few months before i can roll again. Def still gotta keep going to class you can still learn alot from watching.
Graham Cunan I recently had to sit out for a torn meniscus. would've loved to keep going but half hour commute adds up in gas 2-4 times a week.
I wanna see Rener in a fight, maybe in UFC, Bellator, Gracie challenges, whatever but i wanna se him in action, i think he could be a great fighter.
Green River He would get murdered in a real legit mma fight he knows that so he ducks
HAHAHAHA you think so?
the best way to not lose a fight is to not get into a fight. Rener and Ryron don't fight. They teach survival.
I mean a SPORT fight.
I think Rener took a few Gracie challenge fights with a TKD teacher.
Ralek is the only one who get into UFC
Green River - i see. Ryron competed in Metamoris one time
I’ve been out of action for since August 3rd due to a thumb injury and probably won’t go back until next week for one day.... being injured sucks but it’s apart of the game
Thanks for posting about having knee injuries!
Honestly very surprised they did not mention anything about finger injuries. Seems like I hurt them all the time and don't know how to prevent it
Finger injuries are super high with the gI but with the no GI .. its not
Buy monkey tape. I like the 0.2" stuff. Tape your fingers like Keenan shows in his video on here, then buddy the middle and ring fingers together. This takes a while the first several times but after you get good at it you can do it in about 5 minutes. I only used to tape after my fingers already hurt, and they took FOREVER to heal. Now I tape them preventatively, and they MOSTLY don't hurt at all. I usually ignore the pinky because it's never even been a little sore after training. It's usually my middle fingers that hurt the worst.
Bros, thanks so much for the info! I have been very concerned with a recent neck injury going for a roll from turtle position into a bow and arrow choke on a heavy opponent, trying to stop the roll causing all his weight on my neck while I was inverted... locked up immediately, has put an end to ALL training which is very stressful and am glad to have come across some advice and info to calm my concerns.
cheers fellas
I recommend teaching students how to fall properly. I started training about a month and a half ago and have had some shoulder and neck injuries from falls (primarily during take-down techniques).
I know a girl who broke her collar bone when she got thrown so you are very correct. One issue however, is that i think she was scared and didn't land right because of it. You do have to protect yourself but you also have to trust the technique
I bit my tongue really bad last night. I got kneed up the chin. Funny though because I have the same mouth guard Rener has on.
had my first BJJ class 2 nights ago. i was great until I broke mt wrist during sparring.....i am 55 yrs old next month
You should be proud at your age for having the courage to get on the mat. Our bodies all die so no point in stressing too much over injuries. Injuries are badges of honor though it is best to minimize them as they can hold us back in everyday life which sucks. Make sure you let it heal before getting back to it. Also, at your age, roll with the higher belt ranks who have control and respect, not big muscle idiots with testosterone fueling their need to beat everyone.
That is horrible. Is this gym pretty rough ??? That should never happen
Kudos stepping on the mat for the first time in your 50s!
awesome video, emailing my coach right now to talk about modifying my training program around my knee injury
This is great. Wish I had seen this but I don't think it would have mattered. I had to learn the hard way... I'm nursing a back injury... Rolling too hard... After it heals, I'll be more careful...So much more careful!! Don't know know how long this is gonna take to heal though. Hope it's not 10 months but if it is, that's what it is... Thanks for the great vids!!
They didn't say anything about finger injuries. I think those are extremely common.
yes but theyre no big deal just straighten and tape
+DougyDeeDoo Sure it's no big deal to straighten and tape your fingers. But it's very difficult to grip with straight fingers. So yeah, you can easily repair injured fingers. But injured fingers are difficult to train with.
+Aaron Wolbach i agree iv done this often so straighten the break and then tape in a slight bent position so you can grip. It sucks but pain killers help and avoid putting to much pressure on the break other than that you've gotta grit your teeth.
+Aaron Wolbach happened last months at my mma gym. we were warming up spinning around on the back, and one guy managed to get his finger dislocated, and one of the members is a "doctor" (soon atleast) and he pulled it back, taped it. and he kept rolling. no problem.
Jorgen Schroen So he was rolling no-gi? Because if you're rolling with a gi on and broken fingers, your gripping game is gonna suffer.
EDIT: But yeah, even with a gi you can still roll with injured fingers. It's just that injured fingers can majorly impact the effectiveness of your jiu jitsu while otherwise being a minor injury.
I always knew Raizo from ninja assasin trained jiu jistu...
awesome topic! injuries are the worst in any sport, where the mind is willing but the body is not. On a side note I see potential in a yoga/stretching vid for getting that gymnast-like spinal flexibility.
Soo helpful. I really appreciate the adaptable bbj suggestion for knees. I'll ask my sparring partner to do that next week vs. Just flow rolling
Love this! Great video and good to know. Thank God I haven't been injured but good to know this!
Have two slipped discs in the cervical spine..I fell in love with bjj and don't want to stop it but I am scared a little bit because the pain was so sick.. Don't want to experience it again...
Have you trained again ? I had a cervical herniation disc, feel better now but want to know if this is too dangerous
I have a low back herniated disc with degenerative disc disease. And it's bone spurring. Between L3 L4 I still try to train jiu jitsu. But I choose to help the other person. I am just a training partner. And I don't try to see myself as competing against my partner. I am like a drilling dummy. A selfless person. I just help my brother drill techniques. And that's good enough for me. I'm 33. I try to learn the techniques as well. But I choose the techniques wisely. It's good enough for me. I trained and competed when I was 22. I'm getting back into it. But for different reasons. I'm in it to help others. I could care less about my jiu jitsu. I do care about my jiu jitsu. But not as much as before. I am very careful. I'm just there to help my partner learn. It's the best way for me.
Awesome video! Thank you for the information and sharing of experience. I’m experiencing sciatic nerve pain and this video helped me understand better
Excellent I like tying the legs together and training!!
Lost part of a tooth and herniated two cervical discs all in my first 5 months. Needless to say I did not continue with jiujitsu.
It really depends on the gym. Some gyms attract more normal guys and others more brutes
I used my head as a base point once when my partner behind me (I know dumb but I'm a white belt lol). I got nudged forward and felt a snap at the back of my neck. The next day complete lock up. After a good month I finally felt better. lesson learned: never use your head as base point when in turtle. maybe shoulder or just go on your side.
Great Info!! I currently have a neck injury (C5 - pinch nerve, bone spurns) and sciatica nerve pain that I didn't address right away since I thought a few days or rest would fix it. I guess I was wrong so I am still suffering the effects right now. In PT now though and working my way back.
Rener...injured my shoulder JUST LIKE you did. Luckily i let go,but still it was a month....
Thank you for sharing your vast experience :-)
5:20 Lower back
13:33 Neck
21:33 Knee
27:39 Shoulder
32:09 Ears
Stiff neck could be an indication of vertebral artery dissection so better be careful with that. It happened to me! I ended up with a stroke and had to relearn how to walk...
You should do a video on how to prevent cauliflower ear in BJJ
Any tips or tricks for hyper extended elbow? Already icing and wrapping/immobilizing.
ethan Dupras If that's true, I'd highly recommend you see a doctor. Heel hooks are notorious for ACL (and surrounding tendon) injuries. These are tears that can allow you to do things like walk and jog but be pretty serious.
Great video. thanks so much.
a little fyi... disks don't slip. they prolapse which is a hernia due to extreme pressure usually, the facete joint is the one that slips... but understand what your saying.. still love your videos
thank you.
Ice, heat pads, icy hot, wrap it up, rest.... rushing back can cause the injury to worsen. It sucks like hell but be patient
Be careful your training to be a warrior but there's no purpose in your training. because you don't need to be a black belt to defend yourself. You are going to get hurt you could get hospitalized you could lose your job if you have a family you're taking a huge risk. No matter where you go the people are going to make money off of you showing up to class are never going to give you full disclosure if you actually knew how many injuries and lives get messed up becoming a warrior you probably wouldn't study. You're studying to become a warrior you're studying to go to war where you're trying to avoid death so all injuries that are short of death or a win but that's not the case of modern every day life.
Some men are sick of today's bland and meaningless existence and crave that sense of overcoming danger. The danger is what makes it worth it. Warrior spirit
I train at my gym 8 times a week. I never feel like I'm going to die in a war. Half the guys in my gym are in the military. I don't think going to the gym feels like going to war either.
Traction and re-traction therapy IS THE BOMB, I have muscle tone loss in my left calf because of sciatica damage, in which I did not know how to stretch the piriformis to start to relieve pain. I then bought a nice inversion table and started inverting at only about 75 degrees daily which gravity takes over and slowly pulls the spine apart allowing the discs to re-align and stop the bulging disc which when they bulge, the edges of the discs touch the sciatic nerve and that's part of the pain he was talking about shooting down the leg. Reduce salt intake, and drink a shit load of water to get the muscles hydrated and you will live to choke some out again. ;)
Great video, Alex is dope.
Just got back from training my buddy and I who are both white belts rolled from one side of the dojo to the other constantly reversing with sweeps we laughed because you know how when your rolling you don't think about which way the game is taking you. the professor thought it was funny but man does my neck hurt. I think I may have strained my neck. I just kept stretching it feels 95% better.
Some great tips !!!!
I have suffered every injury you’ve spoken of and trained through the pain, but last week I fucked up my rib and I don’t know if I can roll with this. Can’t even pick up my 6 month old son right now... super frustrating.
The stack has got to be one of the most dangerous moves in jiu jitsu
My kneecap just popped after landing a jumpkick (muay thai), i immediately went to the ground in extruciating pain
Going to need to learn ground fighting now.
Hi Rener, I had microdiscectomy (L5-s1) surgery for my spine just few days back. I hurt my back few years back while rolling on the matt.Do you happen to know people who have gone through discectomy surgery and made it back to the matt. Could you please share their stories if any for people like us who want to get back to training after surgeries
great video
Tonight was my fourth lesson in BJJ after joining a local gym 6 days ago.
A new white belt is introduced to everyone and after warming up, we both get paired up together for drills.
We start with a lesson of an armbar technique and a few different variations and ways to applicate. Whenever it was his turn he would explode through my hand grips and really extend and turn my arm once he had it locked in to the correct postion. I'm thinking: what the fuck is this guy doing; and I tell him that it's hurting. He says sorry, and lessens his energy and strength by about 10 percent, but it is still really straining. The sound of the buzzer ends that nightmare and now it's time for free rolls. I start with a blue belt and we end in a draw with no successful subs from either side! Really proud of that because she tried really hard. The next two times I went up against white belts and get tapped at the end of the rounds with none of my own subs being successful. My fourth roll I get paired with the brand new guy from before and I really dominate him for about 2 minutes with until I start to get gassed out from my previous exchanges and his constant explosive movements. He explode rolls me off of my mount from his chest and I end up on my back. He then sort of half stands up with on of his hands on my gi sleeve and dives in to me with an extended knee which I couldn't block and lands on my upper right chest. I immediately feel a burning/searing pain, and a shortness of breathe. I ask him to stop because it really hurts and he obliges. For context I weigh approx 62-65kg (skinny) and stand 5ft 11, he weighs approx 75-80kg (somewhat stocky) and is about 6ft 1. He says sorry again and we continue. I am still in pain and try to defend as he pulls me in to his guard and starts working for triangle around my neck, I cannot defend due to the pain from being pulled in to guard and the pressure of his legs moving up around my body. I tap and leave the mats clutching my chest after he locks the triangle in successfully. I get through the last roll of the night through pure grit against a blue belt whom I hadn't previously rolled with. I told him what happened, and even though he went a bit easy on me, he probably did more damage after trying some fancy techniques on me. I then walked 10 -15 minutes home after the lesson ends. Any time I inhale, exhale, stretch, turn or bend my upper body it is very painful. I am going in to whatever clinic I can for x-rays tomorrow to find out how bad the damage is. I love BJJ and want to start training everyday I love it so much, but now I know I won't be able to return to the mat and participate in the lessons I have to pay for because this idiot took it too far.
My X-ray results show small fracture on 1of my ribs, estimated 4 to 6 week recovery period.
Rener, you bring these guests on but why do you ALWAYS dominate the conversation.
Let the guest talk some!
This is true. I just started watching a few days ago but noticed it. The other person becomes sort of a prop. But the content is great overall.
Renner is the man
RENERGY
Ice has been proven to constrict blood flow slowing recovery. Warmth opens blood flow and speeds healing. I have a military dislocated lower back and heat works best for me. Everyone and every injury is different though.
There is not much difference between heat or cold. I use heat for muscular pain.
Took 3:17 until Rener let him talk. Come on, who else was waiting for it?
After only 2 weeks into this BJJ thing, I’ve seem to have developed an injury I call “ Jiu-Jitsu Noodle Arm”. Hurts like hell where my bicep meets my elbow, aching and radiating pain up and down my arm. And it’s VERY weak. I’m certain I developed this after refusing to let go of a choke hold. I’ve been gorilla gripping and trying to use brute strength to overcome my la k of skill and technique. Now I’m injured. So bummed.
Not even 2 weeks after my 1st ever bjj train, and I got a popped rib from a guy - pain is very disconfortable, and I think I have to go see a doc, due to rib crackling noise when I breath deeply.
Not saying it was the other guy's fault (he might not have had the notion), but maybe we should know/be shown a bit about this before even entering the mat for the 1st time.
I was hoping this video would alleviate some fears and allow me to start training BJJ. Sadly, it had 100% the opposite effect. I may have to let this dream go.
Important video thanks guys
i pulled my groin last year. it's still not at 100% but I've had to get very technical since then. Usually I would rely on my natural athleticism. I had to learn how to defend the guard pass in different ways on each side. If it didn't happen I'd probably be pushing full throttle but I'd less tricky. especially being 6'3" and 250 pounds no one expects me to move faster or slip their pressure like a small guy.
Currently recovering from a pretty bad rib injury from bjj.
No doubt he may have herniated a disc, but a little later Rener said the disc came out of position. He may not have even realized he said it that way but just in case, it's worth knowing that discs can herniate or bulge, but they don't move or slip. It's common to hear the phrase, "slipped disc", but it's a misnomer.
Makes sense. CT Scan or MRI ? 🤷🏾
I'm surprised these guys didn't go over finger injuries as well. They are very common in our sport!
Way more common in GI !!!! Judo fingers are bad news
I'm 71 140lbs and had a 250lbs person do a trap and roll but she is not capable of landing on her knees. She landed on my hip. She just could not control her weight and many of us white belts are not good at controlling our weight or strength. I have to be choosy in picking partners and which moves we do. I'm still sore a month later but ok.❤
... nothing on finger and toes? Those are very common to break, know a few that have now disfigured finger from jitz and effects them daily. Even if you tape it, it's still messed up and hurts, especially on your dominate hand. Then hand operation, down time, etc.
turf toe SUCKS!
42:00 best quote of video!
I got my knee torn so bad in bjj i need to have acl reconstruction , i used to like grappling but now i think its the most stupid thing ive ever done in my life and i will regret going to a bjj school forever.
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Sorry about your injury. I quit Jiu-jitsu after a fractured cervical vertebrae (C3), a broken capitulum in my elbow, a dislocated shoulder, and a broken foot. I loved Jiu-jitsu, but the injuries weren't worth it. At the age of 40, (this year) I decided to quit.
Angelo DelSenno worst injury ever hope you manage to recover. worlds best self defence seems to put alot of people in hospital whilst " learning " :/ if I could sue I would lol 2 years out of life because of big head bara instructor
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Heal up, brother.
Hello, how it is now ? How did the injury happen ?
From a leg lock ??? That is terrible
thanks so much for the education