Mac User Installs Arch Linux for First Time

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2023
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  • @SAMTIME
    @SAMTIME  9 місяців тому +88

    Big thanks to Incogni for sponsoring this adventure into Arch, btw!
    The first 100 people to use code SAMTIME with the link below will get 60% off Incogni: incogni.com/samtime

    • @Salt_and_Peroxide
      @Salt_and_Peroxide 9 місяців тому +2

      hey man love your videos great channel been watching you for 5 years and its onlygetting better

    • @G0RSHK0V
      @G0RSHK0V 9 місяців тому

      True blackberry user doesn't need incogni)

    • @zoiuduu
      @zoiuduu 9 місяців тому +3

      how can you make a comment 5 days ago, if the video was released today? is this some arch linux wizardry?

    • @Modono...
      @Modono... 9 місяців тому +2

      @@zoiuduu he uploaded the video 5 days ago and made it that it will be visible on 28 august 2023

    • @zoiuduu
      @zoiuduu 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Modono... sounds like arch linux wizardry to me

  • @lasue7244
    @lasue7244 9 місяців тому +863

    It was pretty funny video. On a serious note if anyone wants to actually try Linux, don’t be take this as your expected experience. Sam is running Asahi Linux which is in alpha. It’s still insanely impressive because Asahi team had to reverse engineer all drivers for M1 Mac. Also final Asahi won’t be Arch based but will be based on fedora, which is a lot more friendly.

    • @kazzxtrismus
      @kazzxtrismus 9 місяців тому +58

      noobs will see very little difference....this will mirror their experience even if they can get it installed.
      dear noobs.....
      1. use a live USB to try linux out....mint fedora ubuntu debian etc doesnt matter....but not arch
      2. dual boot will be a nightmare for you especially if you dont know how linux will name your current drives and partitions etc
      (cuz it wont be C:...itll be "sda" "sdb")....(also NOTHING of any kind will be named in an expected way)
      3. wifi may not work out of the box....get a cat6 cable ready (thisll be true for about 1/4 of you)
      4. theres a thousand places to find software...the distro store will have about 5% of whats available
      5. there is no downloading a zip and clicking install.exe with linux...
      the variations in the answer of "how to do it then?" are almost countless...
      6. DO NOT blindly cut and paste teminal/command line commands from the internet
      yes i know thatll be about 80% of the "help" you get/find...half of it is old outdated or for another version of linux at best wont work...at worst will break your machine.
      7. being a super/power user for windows will not help you at all...
      8. a whole bunch of your peripherals will not work....video capture cards audio interfaces etc
      9. you will not pickup/learn linux in a year...let alone the 1-2 months you expect.
      10. linux will not listen to your complaints and will actively and intentionally NOT improve for noobs.

    • @rohitk8797
      @rohitk8797 9 місяців тому +7

      Sooner or later Fedora will be closed source…

    • @daimarstein
      @daimarstein 9 місяців тому +58

      @@rohitk8797 imagine lying on the internet... *tsc tsc* shame you young one

    • @cartanfan-youtube
      @cartanfan-youtube 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kazzxtrismusyou sound like Reddit goyslop

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 9 місяців тому +11

      It's actually a very typical linux experience. Take everything in this video to be generalizable

  • @VelvetelToo
    @VelvetelToo 8 місяців тому +134

    “The arch Linux website is the most Linux website I’ve ever seen” just wait until he finds the gentoo wiki

    • @smolbirb4
      @smolbirb4 7 місяців тому

      The Gentoo wiki is so goddamn good, 100x better than arch’s imo, both are great but I I find Gentoo’s much easier to navigate and just use.
      It also goes into much more detail.
      Definitely one of my most visited sites

    • @waynefong5960
      @waynefong5960 2 місяці тому +3

      both are great in my opinion

    • @jackbotman
      @jackbotman 12 днів тому

      @@waynefong5960 They work and that's all that matters

  • @biscotty6669
    @biscotty6669 9 місяців тому +352

    "Tell me everything I'm doing wrong.": Installing Arch. Everything else wrong is a logical consequence.

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 9 місяців тому +27

      I mean there were a lot of contributors, but yeah. Hell even I don't bother to use native arch, I just use a derivative that pulls from the native arch repos. Using alpha asahi/arch on an m1 and minimal linux experience is basically asking for trouble.

    • @biscotty6669
      @biscotty6669 9 місяців тому

      @@robonator2945 Arch is good for learning how to fix things when they break, and everyone loves the AUR repo. In a world of distrobox, etc. you can always use an AUR package if you really need to, which most people won't. And I prefer not having to fix things. (BTW NixOS actually has a larger repository.)

    • @romantechplus
      @romantechplus 8 місяців тому +7

      As a Manjaro user I... yeah... that's about right tbh

    • @TrevelyanOO6
      @TrevelyanOO6 8 місяців тому +7

      I assume it was an AppleSilicon mac, Ashahi linux was his only real option and it’s currently based on arch.
      So assuming your premise, he was doomed before even starting.

    • @tangledwires485
      @tangledwires485 4 місяці тому +4

      Arch (btw) user here...yeah you're right

  • @moose43h
    @moose43h 9 місяців тому +30

    Running Linux literally on the least supported device

  • @truthmatters7573
    @truthmatters7573 9 місяців тому +486

    Audio will be enabled once it is guaranteed to work flawlessly. The speakers are one of the few components that you can actually physically damage if a bug causes the wrong signal to be sent to the speakers. If you crash your computer that's one thing, but blowing out your speakers will mean you have to get a repair done, and we all know how bad apple is with repair 😜

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 9 місяців тому +66

      especially when they discover your put Linux on it lol

    • @ThePlacehole
      @ThePlacehole 9 місяців тому +13

      "Once it works under Linux" should be the new "when pigs fly..."
      You still get painful headphone-destroying POP every time you connect the jack on almost every device. Well worth the price though...

    • @maxpoulin64
      @maxpoulin64 9 місяців тому +21

      The audio driver is actually progressing pretty well, they think they can manage to make it sound a bit cleaner than Apple too.
      Asahi has a pretty decent amount of funding and on track to being one of the best supported Macs on Linux. It's going extremely fast. The fact that we got fully compliant GLES 3.1 already is impressive.

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 9 місяців тому +9

      2023 will be the year of Linux on Macs! Remind me every year from now until I die to update this

    • @_thresh_
      @_thresh_ 9 місяців тому +12

      apple be like: YoU PuT LiNuX On iT NoW ItS BeYoNd rEpAiR ThAt wIlL Be 100000 dOlLaRs fOr hArMiNg oUr bRaNd

  • @ekim4926
    @ekim4926 7 місяців тому +10

    > Install a developing version of an unstable distro on unsupported hardware
    > “WhY dIdN’t StUfF wOrK oUt Of ThE bOx?”

  • @deadeye1652
    @deadeye1652 9 місяців тому +198

    Asahi linux is experimental distro which they built with reverse-engineering the m1 architecture. it's pretty impressive what they accomplished and its still in experimental state for dev use only. obviously most features won't work.

  • @MasterGeekMX
    @MasterGeekMX 9 місяців тому +90

    Asahi isn't linux "made easy" for the mac. Is a massive project that takes linux and adapts it to run on the new M-series macs, as they not only use ARM CPU's (unlike most of computers out there that use x86 CPU's), but they have custom graphics and other stuff that they need to reverse engineer as there is no documentation or anything about them.
    It initally used Arch as their base, but recently they made a partnership with Fedora to use them as base instead.

    • @user-nl7hr1ny5m
      @user-nl7hr1ny5m 8 місяців тому

      may I ask the recommended linux to install on m2?

    • @MasterGeekMX
      @MasterGeekMX 8 місяців тому

      @@user-nl7hr1ny5m Asahi. Currently there is no other option.

    • @RMED24
      @RMED24 8 місяців тому

      ​@@user-nl7hr1ny5masahi Linux or the fedora asahi spin

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      ​@@user-nl7hr1ny5mThere is none

    • @CapCreeperGR_Main
      @CapCreeperGR_Main Місяць тому

      @@user-nl7hr1ny5m Do not. None of it is good at the moment and probably won't be for at least another 3-4 years. If you are a beginner just stay away from Linux on any arm mac. If you have an older intel mac you can try any Linux Distribution you find online. Personally I recommend Linux Mint. It's easy to use, fast and looks good but virtually anything will work. JUST do not try arch or anything based on it. Arch is a Linux distribution created for experienced users that want to have control over every simple thing on their system

  • @CG_Hali
    @CG_Hali 9 місяців тому +147

    Sam proving that though he's only got one ball now, he still dares the world like he's got 2 humongous ones!

    • @asbeltrion
      @asbeltrion 9 місяців тому +4

      What was that about a ball?

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 9 місяців тому +13

      @@asbeltrionhe had testicular cancer a few years ago. Had to get rid of one of his boys.

    • @pcmark-nl
      @pcmark-nl 9 місяців тому +5

      Uniballers unite! I am a lefty, Sam!

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 9 місяців тому

      @@pcmark-nl now kith

    • @lil_brumski
      @lil_brumski 9 місяців тому

      ​@@markm0000ouch!

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah 9 місяців тому +239

    Who in the right mind suggests Arch + KDE to a macOS user... I feel sorry for everyone who watches this video and might think "wow, Linux looks as ugly and obtuse as I've always imagined it to be" and frankly, rightfully so. Linux doesn't have to be hard! Something like Fedora or Debian + GNOME can sit much better on the hands of a macOS user, much better and familiar UI/UX experience.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 9 місяців тому +70

      even worse when you consider that he's using a VERY early alpha version of linux for M1 mac since Apple document fuck all

    • @smishyt
      @smishyt 9 місяців тому +39

      GNOME is the one that gives bad impression of Linux.

    • @Ajay-pf6bv
      @Ajay-pf6bv 9 місяців тому +15

      In fact, as an almost 20 years Mac user I switched 3 years ago from MacOS to ArchLinux with KDE Plasma but on x86. Tried Tiling Window Managers and Gnome with tiling functionality in between and now I'm using the best of all worlds in Plasma. Mac desktop layout, a start menu like in Windows, virtual desktops and auto-tiling as you would use it in a TWM. One of the best decisions in my life.

    • @maxpoulin64
      @maxpoulin64 9 місяців тому +28

      ​@@smishytGNOME is a bad choice for Windows users, but for Mac users it's actually fairly similar to the Mac workflow and a good choice. They're already used to needing to use exposé, the lack of taskbar, oversimplified menus, limited options and choices.

    • @MrAshCreates
      @MrAshCreates 9 місяців тому +3

      Tbf you can fully customize kde to look like a mac and that’s what mine looks like

  • @Hatchray
    @Hatchray 9 місяців тому +12

    Arch users are screaming at their screens in rage watching this......... I love it.

    • @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
      @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 9 місяців тому +6

      Yeah I don’t understand why my fellow arch btw users get so mad about this video, i think it was really funny

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 9 місяців тому +1

      At this point it's just a comedy show 😂 like LTT's videos

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 9 місяців тому +1

      @@monochrome_linux actually this is a more honest review than LTT's video. If Linus got his hands on this installation he might have messed up the one liner to get discover working and then borked his system somehow.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      Honestly I laughted my ass out. I think Arch users don't want other people using their system so they don't care much about those things...
      I use Arch btw. Im legally bound to write that sentence hahahahahahhahahaha

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@randomness0I don't think Linus would get out of the boot CD terminal... Asking Linus to install Arch is like asking your grandmother to install Windows. She makes a hell of a good cookie, but she cannot format your laptop.

  • @TheZedrem
    @TheZedrem 9 місяців тому +71

    Fun fact: website (the safari browser engine that the chrome one is also based on) is based on KHTML, a browser engine made by KDE.
    So basically, safari is a Linux
    /s

    • @KanadGodse
      @KanadGodse 9 місяців тому +10

      WebKit*

    • @nabsi2321
      @nabsi2321 9 місяців тому +9

      Yeah Safari is based on WebKit that is developed by Apple, but you know the reasons the UserAgent in browsers say something like "Safari 1.0 (KHTML; Like Gecko)" something along those lines. Is due to the reason the websites use the UserAgent to disable and enable certain features, and for example if web browser supported all Gecko and KHTML features but the actual browser lacked some, it could use these variants instead indicating it has support for it. It's essentially used to indicate whenever browser supports certain HTML/CSS/JavaScript features.
      edit: But originally yeah it was based on KHTML, but the original code is probably long gone. And on the other hand MacOS itself is Unix, very close to Linux in terms of architecture and API.

    • @electricalbatross5797
      @electricalbatross5797 9 місяців тому +2

      @@nabsi2321 nerd

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@electricalbatross5797Ur boring

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 9 місяців тому

      ​@@nabsi2321that's cool! Thanks for the info :)

  • @oussama7132
    @oussama7132 9 місяців тому +17

    the reason you had a terrible experience is that you didn't install [Insert linux distro here]

    • @somnia3423
      @somnia3423 9 місяців тому +1

      but he didnt had a terrible experience did he? arch did just work

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 9 місяців тому +4

      @@somnia3423 Most people here don't realize that Asahi is still not ready. So they are talking about issues like the audio.

    • @jimmyneutron129
      @jimmyneutron129 9 місяців тому +1

      The big reason is that Asahi is alpha, so it's a bit like if I install a Windows developer version and blame Windows for not working. If people tell you to use alpha state software, they are dumb

  • @unicodefox
    @unicodefox 8 місяців тому +9

    1:03 - Asahi Linux isn't an easier way to install Arch Linux. Its a project for making Linux run on M1. While there is a distro called Asahi Linux that you can install on your machine today, in the future, the goal is for there to be no such thing as Asahi Linux you install, you just install Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc for M1 which includes all the M1 drivers and special sauces
    4:16 - Audio through the internal speakers would be possible to enable today if they wanted to - however, they still haven't worked out all the proper safeties and tunings to prevent your speakers from blowing up. Apparently, this contains a lot of very complex math (like having to simulate the temperature of the speakers).
    The Asahi developers in general are very focused on doing things *right* before doing it fast.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      The audio is now fixed on fedora ;)

  • @Spencer-wc6ew
    @Spencer-wc6ew 9 місяців тому +33

    The Arch wiki used to have a setup page that was way friendlier to beginners.
    But it violated the wiki's rule of "assume people read every page you link to and repeat no info"

    • @Voidkitty_
      @Voidkitty_ 9 місяців тому +4

      it takes a while to figure out how to RTFM but once you learn, you are invincible and also a god (I use arch btw)

    • @albatross7
      @albatross7 4 місяці тому +2

      😂😂 those basement dwellers need to touch grass sometimes to get a grasp of real world

    • @wwtapsable
      @wwtapsable 3 місяці тому

      regular arch actually made an install script for stupid people, just boot up run the script and arch is automagically installed. I don't like it, ever since that, support forums have been getting a lot more traffic from stupid people who should be using ubuntu instead. at least gentoo is still safe for now

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      Imagine having to update that page every time another thing change hahaha

  • @itismezed
    @itismezed 9 місяців тому +9

    “Why isn’t the alpha software not 100% functional?” - the entire video

  • @edwardecl
    @edwardecl 9 місяців тому +72

    Now try Windows on your M1 mac...
    The fact that it works at all is impressive considering people had to reverse engineer the hardware drivers, also it's "alpha".

    • @clockblower6414
      @clockblower6414 9 місяців тому +22

      Nah that's disgusting lol! he fixed his hardware by installing Linux best not screw it up by installing spyware on it

    • @radio_marco
      @radio_marco 9 місяців тому +2

      Oh dear, oh dear... This sounds fun. I don't have a mac though.

    • @XeZrunner
      @XeZrunner 9 місяців тому +3

      Given that it can only be virtualized for now, it would pretty much be a "one-click" install in Parallels.
      I do wonder if it ever will be able to install on bare metal though.

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 9 місяців тому

      ​@@XeZrunner uh, does anyone want to tell them?

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@XeZrunnerVMs doesn't count... I wanna see he trying to install on bare metal hahahahahahahhaha.
      And your "for now" is pretty optimistic hahahahahahahhaha

  • @solidhyrax
    @solidhyrax 9 місяців тому +14

    You're using Asahi Linux which is a development distro still not ready for shipping. If you actually want a working setup you ideally don't use an apple product. Asahi isn't Arch btw.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 9 місяців тому

      I wouldn't say that. Asahi is the hardware drivers and all needed to run Linux on macs. The distribution is still Arch. So yes, it's still arch but with more pain, cus of lacking hardware support.

    • @vlad165
      @vlad165 7 місяців тому

      @@monochrome_linuxI believe now Asahi is based on Fedora. But at the moment when this video was recorded it was still Arch

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      ​@@monochrome_linuxWell... He wasn't stuck on a CLI trying to partition his disks before the install. So I would agree that Asahi is not Arch já hahahaha. Its more a Manjaro, they give you a "ready to use" KDE environment.

  • @PavakPaul
    @PavakPaul 9 місяців тому +11

    As a Linux user running Arch on desktop and Ubuntu on laptop, I had fun watching this video.

  • @athirsonsilva3808
    @athirsonsilva3808 9 місяців тому +28

    I would suggest trying out Gnome for your Desktop Environments as it is similar to MacOS in some aspects, more than KDE at least, and a Distro like PopOS, Mint or even Ubuntu, that aren't as bare-bones as the one you installed (Asahi isn't Arch btw).

    • @someguy9175
      @someguy9175 9 місяців тому +17

      also don't run linux on a m1 mac

    • @myles124
      @myles124 9 місяців тому

      ​@@someguy9175Asahi Linux is great on the M1

    • @athirsonsilva3808
      @athirsonsilva3808 9 місяців тому

      @@someguy9175 Yeah, if you want to just use Linux why bother buying an overprinced product to install it on.

    • @Untitled_Pribor
      @Untitled_Pribor 9 місяців тому

      @@someguy9175that’s probably the best advice. Even on later intel macs linux isn’t that great. On my MacBook (MacBookPro14,2) the wifi barely works, speakers don’t work and for whatever reason i can’t mount usb drives. Fortunately i have a better computer that runs linux perfectly

    • @smishyt
      @smishyt 9 місяців тому +2

      Hell no. GNOME runs so much worse on M1 Mac. Stay with Plasma.

  • @g4mingaz
    @g4mingaz 9 місяців тому +82

    Please do a part two. This was super fun to watch!

    • @truthmatters7573
      @truthmatters7573 9 місяців тому +6

      possibly with fedora asahi

    • @senorbinario2855
      @senorbinario2855 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree

    • @Iisakkiik
      @Iisakkiik 9 місяців тому +5

      Part 2 with fedora or something else with gnome desktop.

    • @b4nes
      @b4nes 9 місяців тому +1

      part two is he got the macos back, that's why this video is uploaded

    • @Jokamutta
      @Jokamutta 9 місяців тому

      @@truthmatters7573Is the Japanise Asahi beer named after that? :D

  • @jubinthomas5204
    @jubinthomas5204 9 місяців тому +7

    dude u are gold..its sad to see you are not getting any new followers..cheers mate

  • @alfredolouro3773
    @alfredolouro3773 9 місяців тому +21

    I've been running Linux Mint on my Macbook and my Imac for years, and it works beautifully. If it was for Apple I wouldn't be able to do anything with them because the last version of MacOS they could handle wasn't supported any more.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      Intel macs are far easier to install Linux because they are basically PCs with MacOS hahahaha

  • @MrMoto655
    @MrMoto655 4 місяці тому +4

    As an arch user, this made me laugh harder than it should've because it is relatable.

  • @LuealEythernddare
    @LuealEythernddare 8 місяців тому +5

    There is a qt5 dependency you need to install the dependencies to get discover to work. It is pretty simple to add, it’s due to arch being very barebones, literally all that’s installed is what you request to be installed.

    • @albatross7
      @albatross7 4 місяці тому

      Yeah yeah that’s how people are supposed to use their computers, sure

    • @LuealEythernddare
      @LuealEythernddare 4 місяці тому

      @@albatross7 well arch and kde are both primarily meant moreso for power users. People who already know what they’re doing. For someone who isn’t already familiar with Linux I’d say use Ubuntu, Linux mint, or pop os, either gnome or cinnamon for the desktop environment, you’ll immediately be able to get around the os as naturally as if you were just using windows or macOS.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      ​@@albatross7Being honest. People should not use Arch as their first contact with Linux...
      You wouldn't make your first computer drawing on Photoshop, you would start with Paint...

  • @misha54321
    @misha54321 9 місяців тому +10

    As an Arch Linux user, this was quite painful to watch (but quite entertaining). By the way, pacman is the tool used to install apps (the PACkage MANager). Also, Linux is not normally as painful as this. If you use a beginner friendly distro (e.g. Linux Mint) on an x86 machine it will be much easier to use. It is, however, quite difficult to run Linux on Apple Silicon Macs due to the ARM architecture so it's probably better to stick with MacOS (or install Linux in a virtual machine).

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 9 місяців тому

      None of the problems shown in the video were related to ARM

    • @misha54321
      @misha54321 9 місяців тому +9

      ​@@MarcRitzMDNot directly, but the ARM architecture is the main reason why it is so difficult to get Linux working well on Apple silicon chips since ARM chips differ significantly from one another. It was much easier to run Linux on Intel Macs.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 9 місяців тому +10

      ​@@MarcRitzMDnot ARM specifically, it's due to Apple Silicon, and other hardware that is there on the Mac, i have a modern Intel MacBook and Linux is still quite finicky on it due to lack of drivers and such.
      In simple terms, apple users more custom made hardware which have little to no drivers on linux, so unless people reverse engineer everything and make their own drivers, you're screwed.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 9 місяців тому

      ​@@misha54321you can run linux on ARM just fine, brother.

    • @catchnkill
      @catchnkill 8 місяців тому +1

      @@misha54321 It is not ARM. Linux runs on ARM for many years and has been fine. It is Apple's proprietary hardware which there is no Linux drivers available. Apple also does not provide any documentation for developers to write drivers. Apple is a close ecology and they do not want other people to use their hardware in alternate way.

  • @activetutorial
    @activetutorial 5 місяців тому +2

    The reason there isn't a fix it button in the app store is because the target audience for arch Linux doesn't need that and Arch users can fix it manually easily. The reason it can't just work is because the backends are free and not owned by a corporate company so it maybe sometimes just doesn't work.

    • @yannickluecker3983
      @yannickluecker3983 4 місяці тому

      And especially not if the framework for it running on Apple Sillicon is still in Alpha...

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      Honestly if it was truly arch linux it would doubt he even would be able to install the system... Its not that is hard, but he is definitely not the target audience...

  • @Hardcore_Remixer
    @Hardcore_Remixer 9 місяців тому +7

    Bruh, arch linux is a distro with a community that will 95% tell you to read the arch wiki when you ask for advice.
    It is specifically made so you use the command line and struggle to learn stuff as you use it.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 9 місяців тому +5

      95% of the issue are documented in the Arch wiki to the point that others distro user use the arch wiki. Also i've used Arch my machines for the last 5 years and the only moment i needed the command line is when i dev something and the tools are CLI.

    • @kazzxtrismus
      @kazzxtrismus 9 місяців тому +1

      gotta problem?... im here to help!...here's 5hrs of reading!...good luck

    • @somnia3423
      @somnia3423 9 місяців тому +3

      yeah i hate when there is an error and i can just look it up to solve it, i wish there wasnt an arch wiki!!! why should we be able to look stuff up omg

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      The arch wiki is so good that other distro users use it as reference...
      Its like the bible of Linux. Or even better, the dictionary of Linux. It has everything. And I mean EVERYTHING.

  • @slapout7
    @slapout7 9 місяців тому +22

    We need a whole series of videos with him trying different operating systems and distros

    • @IvoPavlik
      @IvoPavlik 4 місяці тому

      Sounds like fun 🙂

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      But he is on a Mac. Dunno how feasable it would be (not ironically).

  • @nickn1991
    @nickn1991 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't know why I need to install Linux on my MacBook. Linux is by no means a user-friendly operating system. The fact of installing Linux on a MacBook is to forget that the advantage of a Mac is that it can be easily used as a Unix system with a graphical user interface. Plus, instead of going through the trouble of installing Linux on your MacBook, it's less expensive or time-consuming to buy and install another FreeDOS laptop.

  • @archux_
    @archux_ 9 місяців тому +5

    sam now will use the phrase "i use arch btw"

  • @M2rsh
    @M2rsh 9 місяців тому +43

    Uses the most plain and basic version of Linux and complains that nothing is preinstalled 👍

    • @Qwami
      @Qwami 9 місяців тому +1

      Hey, yall...I found one of the Linux dwibs

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 9 місяців тому

      What do you mean by nothing is installed? it had more junk than my Manjaro installation.

    • @M2rsh
      @M2rsh 9 місяців тому +1

      @@randomness0 I know theoretically this is not arch and he installed an experimental new distro made to run on Mac's new CPU still kind of weird that it didn't have discovery backend or pipewire/PulseAudio preinstalled if it even works on Mac my guess is that he just installed kde and kde-applications

    • @bloozism
      @bloozism 8 місяців тому

      This disto is bloated , what are you talking about

  • @zorromci
    @zorromci 9 місяців тому +9

    Really enjoying this channel (subscriber since the Linus Tech Tips apology), hopefully it beats the algorithm soon!!

    • @mitchmarq428
      @mitchmarq428 9 місяців тому +1

      He's been doing this for years, I wouldn't count on it

  • @davey820051
    @davey820051 9 місяців тому +2

    Even Sam's advert reads are funny ("...get ahold of your privates and try 'em out!")

    • @IcHamza
      @IcHamza 9 місяців тому

      his KiTi video is one of the best

  • @tmptodelete
    @tmptodelete 9 місяців тому +3

    Hm, maybe if you weren't used a pre-alpha WIP Linux distro all of this would work? Naaaah, let's use something that has written IN HUGE BOLD LETTERS that it is not supposed to work correctly, and dunk on it not working correctly!

  • @truthmatters7573
    @truthmatters7573 9 місяців тому +9

    Nice to see you living life on the wild side! You can also try Fedora Asahi next time :)

  • @ttoommxxmmoott
    @ttoommxxmmoott 9 місяців тому +2

    people make funny of how "clumsy" Linux installation is.. but has anyone ever tried installing Mac on a normal computer? It's the hardest thing ever lol

    • @stanb1455
      @stanb1455 9 місяців тому

      lmao building a hackintosh is nothing like arch on m1 through the asahi linux project

    • @ttoommxxmmoott
      @ttoommxxmmoott 9 місяців тому

      @@stanb1455 making an hackintosh on a random computer and finding all the needed drivers can be actually much harder..

  • @brazenbunnies
    @brazenbunnies 9 місяців тому +2

    Sam should be nicer to his niece when she wants him to buy Girl Scout Cookies.

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti 9 місяців тому +4

    I've never tried using Linux on a Mac but have had excellent luck with it on ~wintel~ machines. Mostly old Atom netbooks, and a few P4 era things. I haven't tried Arch though, pretty much just Ubuntu based things, Mint mostly.

  • @j0zko
    @j0zko 9 місяців тому +15

    As a Windows user who has no experience with both MacOS and Linux, I can say that everything you've said is 100% right.

    • @Karlzzzy
      @Karlzzzy 9 місяців тому +5

      Noob

    • @absoluteME524
      @absoluteME524 9 місяців тому +1

      Agree

    • @vaishakhgk2006
      @vaishakhgk2006 9 місяців тому +4

      Sorry how are you saying everything he said is right when you didn't even use that ?

    • @Karlzzzy
      @Karlzzzy 9 місяців тому

      @@vaishakhgk2006 niceeeeeeee epic ment

  • @somethingcoolgoeshere
    @somethingcoolgoeshere 9 місяців тому +1

    Please don't watch this to see how far Linux has come. Asahi is very new and still being worked on with plenty of unfinished parts.

  • @KuraV12
    @KuraV12 9 місяців тому +5

    Sam literally read my mind, i just installed arch on my intel macbook manually btw

  • @perrypereyra6671
    @perrypereyra6671 9 місяців тому +16

    just finished watching this, the most laugh I've ever had this month. good job Sam!!!

  • @arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088
    @arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088 2 місяці тому

    Installing Arch and expecting that everything works is like saying "I buy a house" and just buy the bricks and then complain that the kitchen stove doesn't work properly.

  • @JohnCrawford1979
    @JohnCrawford1979 Місяць тому +1

    I've used Arch, and am able to use my laptop speakers. Did it have Pipewire installed?

  • @ph12tech
    @ph12tech 9 місяців тому +1

    Glad to see my favourite UA-camrs are switching to Linux as well, that's what I'm planning to do as well. Gonna make some videos of the whole process that might be helpful to some

  • @user-ks1oh2wx6o
    @user-ks1oh2wx6o Місяць тому +1

    Wait until he finds out about gentoo

  • @johnneisler6552
    @johnneisler6552 3 місяці тому

    Linux users are the elite of the tech industry, but arch users are the elite among Linux users

  • @boredhuman9289
    @boredhuman9289 8 місяців тому +1

    This video is a true delight! I enjoyed every second of it (as a Linux user).

  • @zeocamo
    @zeocamo 9 місяців тому +1

    THIS is Asahi Linux it is based on Arch, but it is in Alpha as they are making drivers for the M1 and M2 clips without any help or manual, so it take time, but THIS is not the Arch you are looking for, i mean this is not Arch linux, it just works, and is not in Alpha, but don't run on M1/2.

  • @bummers
    @bummers 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the comedy. Also, in other news, Sam don't usually swim, but when he does, he goes to the Mariana Trench.

  • @jaames
    @jaames 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow, the comment section is a battlefield. I usually experience Windows PC Master Race fanboys throwing cannonballs my way as a MacOS user (not knowing I started using computers on DOS) but dang, Linux users attacking fellow Linux users are on a whole different ball game.

  • @MriA653
    @MriA653 14 годин тому

    it comes with kde plasma pre installed?

  • @mgrth
    @mgrth 9 місяців тому

    lol. this is a very very very crystal clear reproduction of the first time i used debian. so hilarious to watch, remembering how i felt back then. but, now i love linux. just keep using it and figuring things out, and it does become fun.

  • @superhero5390
    @superhero5390 4 місяці тому +3

    Most intelligent mac user😂

  • @YourLocalZombie
    @YourLocalZombie 3 місяці тому

    I tried ubuntu on my 2017 iMac. everything was smoth sailing until a sound played. everything stuttered. When I looked online I found a forum post from the developers saying they were aware of the issue with my specific model and they were working on a fix. That post was 4 years old with no update. Uninstalled.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      Honestly most intel macs are basically PCs with MacOS. But they have some weird quirks like the T2 chip that someone has to make workarounds. If nobody is interested in doing that happens... More exotic is the hardware less chances you have to work, thats the reality unfortunately.
      There's no trillion dollar company behind the software you're using

  • @robertrodriguez1343
    @robertrodriguez1343 3 місяці тому

    every time i setup a 'wayland' session, i feel the same way , man.

  • @Vindix007
    @Vindix007 8 місяців тому +1

    Once you try Arch, you will never want to install another OS.
    Super fast and solid rock OS.
    Everything working flawlessly here.

    • @oku-mq7kg
      @oku-mq7kg 8 місяців тому +1

      The only exception is NixOS

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      I wanna try Gentoo and FreeBSD to be honest.
      Gentoo is lazyness of my part and FreeBSD is a driver issue...

  • @JohnCrawford1979
    @JohnCrawford1979 Місяць тому +1

    Arch also has a repository called the AUR. Though helps if you know what you're searching for.

  • @BNBPhotofr
    @BNBPhotofr 9 місяців тому +2

    If you must use Arch, I highly suggest Garuda Linux, which is probably the simplest Arch version I have tried.

  • @da_pwo
    @da_pwo 8 місяців тому +1

    Mac user gets suprised that Linux can run UA-cam

  • @MauFalcon
    @MauFalcon 9 місяців тому +2

    Finished watching the video and still can’t stop laughing 😂 - great video

  • @fptbb
    @fptbb 3 місяці тому

    How to try linux: Start not using a Mac machine for that...

  • @mururoa7024
    @mururoa7024 3 місяці тому

    The funniest part about Linux is that no matter which distro you chose, there will always be someone to comment that you picked the wrong one. 😉

  • @kebman
    @kebman Місяць тому

    Congratulations! You chose the the educational version of Linux (Arch btw), which is less user friendly, bcos you actually have to research stuff to get it going. You'll be an IT expert in no time with this system!

  • @RyeMoes
    @RyeMoes 9 місяців тому +4

    Amazing video. More tech reviews for alpha products please, love it. Haha

  • @ShinyTechThings
    @ShinyTechThings 9 місяців тому +2

    For those who don't have cats how could they do this? 🤦‍♂🤣

  • @blueiicey
    @blueiicey 8 місяців тому

    If you need linux, chose fedora or linux mint. If you want a windows-like experience, chose mint. If you want something diffrent from windows and like-macos, chose fedora. Its stable and nice

  • @christopherparsons7125
    @christopherparsons7125 9 місяців тому +11

    Very funny Sam. But you really did manage to choose one of the hardest versions of Linux to use. KDE and Arch? That's nuts for a beginner. Ubuntu and just stock Gnome would have been a better idea. It wouldn't have provided this level of hilarity though...
    Also, most of the bugs you experienced happened because you're using a MacBook with Apple silicon inside it. Not a Linux developer fault but much more an Apple locking down their ecosystem fault.

  • @quimbydaddy5392
    @quimbydaddy5392 17 днів тому

    I installed Linux Mint on a 2011 MacBook Air - no problems

  • @sleidardicumaris
    @sleidardicumaris 9 місяців тому +2

    This is the funniest thing i've seen in a while! Keep it up Sam!

  • @clampchowder9569
    @clampchowder9569 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow did not expect an alien prometheus reference

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      I was watching Alien again and I actually got intrigged if there is any connection. But unfortunately no. It would be awesome.
      But Alien Weyland and Linux Wayland are not connected 😢 The name is based on the Wayland city in Massachusetts. It has like 20k people and its probably weird when they search their city name in google hahahahahahahhaha

    • @clampchowder9569
      @clampchowder9569 3 місяці тому

      ​@arturpaivads bro he literally uses a clip from the movie alien promethius in this video like he's making that parallel that's the point what are you on about?

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      @@clampchowder9569 Im saying that I did the same connection when I was watching alien and found intriguing. Then I've search and its just a coincidence. Just that.
      Tech stuff was named after scifi franchises before.

  • @fabiandrinksmilk6205
    @fabiandrinksmilk6205 3 місяці тому

    He tried Linux on possibly the worst laptop to install it on. It's actually a miracle that it works on Apple Silicon at all since they have to reverse engineer all drivers and work around Apple's usual shenanigans.

  • @-PRPTL-
    @-PRPTL- 8 місяців тому +1

    Debian user here, probably the worst thing to install Linux on is a Mac. Like, seriously.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 9 місяців тому +3

    You used basically the worst Linux setup possible, you chose an Arch-based distro which on top of that is also in alpha stage…

    • @terrienhumain6723
      @terrienhumain6723 9 місяців тому +2

      And on an Apple machine :D

    • @Lampe2020
      @Lampe2020 9 місяців тому +2

      @@terrienhumain6723
      Ah, dang it! I wanted to mention that in my original comment but forgot it, thanks for reminding me :)

  • @michaelwright2986
    @michaelwright2986 9 місяців тому +1

    I should have made a video about my attempt to do stuff with a Mac. I really liked OS X in the days of the big cats, so I thought a job I needed doing would be easier on an old MacBook. I then discovered that to do a few not-really-nerdy-at-all things, I had to hold down a three-key chord while clicking on a menu item. Talk about secret handshakes. So then I tried a simple PIP A: = C:*.*, and all that happened was that I invoked the BSD d(a)emon. Do you need some kind of brain surgery to use modern MacOS?

  • @Joe_Brig
    @Joe_Brig 9 місяців тому +1

    2023 is the Year of the Linux Desktop!

    • @IcHamza
      @IcHamza 9 місяців тому

      i read that 2000 will be when i installed red hat in 1999

  • @swagmuffin9000
    @swagmuffin9000 8 місяців тому

    Thought this was funny. I know i ran into some of these problems at some point in my Linux journey. Funny you had them all at the same time, but that's arch for you, it's a beast starting out

  • @someguy2338
    @someguy2338 10 днів тому

    As an Arch user I have to say, that Asahi isn't ready. Use x64 hardware

  • @repairstudio4940
    @repairstudio4940 8 місяців тому +1

    Haha liked and subbed....been working with Arch myself. Haha love this. ❤

  • @DashieTM
    @DashieTM 9 місяців тому +2

    You tried a work in progress distribution of linux that is specifically aimed at apple M1, this means there are things that are not done yet, like speakers, microphones, camera and touchID.
    Perhaps if ypu check back on this in a year or so, then it might all work, who knows.
    Otherwise on regular laptops and desktops, basic things such as audio should work like usual.
    I would say good video, funny ofc, but please keep in mind that you might also give a wrong view of linux as a whole by using something that is not marked as stable in any way by the developers.

  • @PCsSabotage
    @PCsSabotage 8 місяців тому

    Why bro at the ad was trying to be like Saul Goodman

  • @AyaWetts
    @AyaWetts 9 місяців тому +1

    You installed Asahi, which is based off Arch. Its not Arch... its also very experimental and incomplete work in progress and known to have many issues on Apple silicon.

  • @neanda
    @neanda 9 місяців тому

    "nearly prebooted my pants" 🤣 tf for your kitti.
    i miss my cat 😔

  • @nerdg2
    @nerdg2 9 місяців тому +1

    Damn, Arch is a big step, I've made the move few months ago and I'm loving it.

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse 8 місяців тому

    I preboot my pants every time I try to install Linux.

  • @BartKus
    @BartKus 3 місяці тому

    He never did get to edit that document.

  • @CosmicExistential
    @CosmicExistential 9 місяців тому

    lol. Loved it. I also used to use Linux 2-3 years ago. Using windows since windows 11.

  • @iusearch
    @iusearch 9 місяців тому +2

    Bro didn't even try...

    • @danieljuno810
      @danieljuno810 9 місяців тому

      Trying in Linux means spending 10 hours searching the web to solve a problem within another 10 hour problem. Linux is like a D&D adventure in that way😅

  • @MrSlm1982
    @MrSlm1982 9 місяців тому +2

    Garuda is a good version of arch to install. Easy to install. I have it on one of my laptops. Mostly a GUI installer... That said, I use cmd without thinking of it half the time so "mostly" GUI is subjective.

  • @stanb1455
    @stanb1455 9 місяців тому

    me when the work in progress port of the linux kernel is a work in progress:

  • @MrFrog222
    @MrFrog222 8 місяців тому +1

    yeah, the arch wiki is complex but the best knowledge source in all of linux

    • @smolbirb4
      @smolbirb4 7 місяців тому +1

      I’d say the Gentoo wiki has much better documentation. It may not have as many entries but the quality of the average entry is much higher

    • @MrFrog222
      @MrFrog222 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, its more understandable but if you understand arch the arch wiki is better

    • @smolbirb4
      @smolbirb4 7 місяців тому

      @@MrFrog222 I’m not sure what you mean by that.
      I mean both have excellent wikis they’re just different is all

  • @RobsonLanaNarvy
    @RobsonLanaNarvy 9 місяців тому +1

    It was a pleasure to watch this video in My Arch Linux KDE Plasma Rig, BTW

  • @clockblower6414
    @clockblower6414 9 місяців тому +1

    Sad days the only reason arch is more advanced is BC nothing is installed by default haha. All the extra background processes have to be enabled by the user including ones for sound iirc

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 3 місяці тому

      you're right but for the wrong reasons. Although on pure Arch you need to install an audio backend like pipewire or pulseaudio that comes ready on Asahi. The reason the speakers didn't worked is because the speaker driver wasn't ready on Asahi at the time... Alpha software is like that... And its working today, but there's still a big list of stuff that doesn't work...

  • @n0ita
    @n0ita 9 місяців тому

    I am a simple guy.
    I see "Linux" and "First Time" on the same title.
    Therefore I must watch.
    i use arch btw

  • @Lerothas
    @Lerothas 8 місяців тому

    Using Asahi Linux with Arch Linux base with an Apple-Silicon-Mac is like participating with a Bobbycar at a military exercise. Unless you're really skilled you will fail. Using Linux+KDE with a device from Tuxedo Computers, Slimbook, System76 or StarLabs would have been a really nice experience.

  • @Karlzzzy
    @Karlzzzy 9 місяців тому +2

    You are just without learning the Chinese alphabets, you just wanna learn Chinese words. Huhhh

  • @The_SUN1234
    @The_SUN1234 8 місяців тому

    Windows gets the job done, while Linux makes you feel important and special. 👾
    Thats...thats how i see those two systems.

  • @miguelguthridge
    @miguelguthridge 9 місяців тому +2

    To be fair, almost all the things that don't work are due to Apple being bad at documentation and stuff