If the spring retainer bolts are gone, I've found the trailer has either rolled, or nearly rolled, whether a light duty or commercial trailer. Seeing the chaos other drivers send to the guys that have to fix it never ceases to amuse me lmao. That was an overloaded trailer with an asshole puckering event. You and your guy made quick and good work, lubed the springs so that they're quiet and wear well. You'll keep the good operators happy and the bad ones on the road. Bent light duty axles are a given, until they affect camber or load handling haha Edit: Just noticed the tires impacted the fender too LMAO
As usual great content! Really nice to see you guys in action!!! In my personal opinion only, and experience, it's always better to put something more for safety besides the crane when working underneath. Unfortunately, I know 2 guys that worked on repairing a shovel with the bucket up and there was some failure in the hydraulics, the bucket fell and crushed them both to death😢 Be safe! 🤟And keep up the wonderful work!💪
Totally agree with you. Safety first and productivity second. Sadly I often see on UA-cam that safety comes third. Stupidly many youtubers jokes about it too when ignoring safety.
Big difference in working on hydraulics and causing them to fail, vs a separate system doing what it is designed to do like a crane. I understand your point, but almost every single hydraulic fatality I know of is caused by accidentally pressure loss, not mechanical failure. Humans ignorance/stupidity is the issue.
I've seen that exact kind of damage! car was put on the trailer backwards putting the majority of the weight behind and or at the rear tandem axles. trailer started to fish tail and hopping from side to side. the guy was lucky it had electric brakes and knew to manually activate them to get the trailer under control, it almost flipped the truck he was towing with... the trailer had bent leafs and re-arranged the axles. 👍👍
one comment about working under this with no blocking, always great work, always impressed. I was afraid, so many stories about farmers having a tragedy
The suspension coming apart like that was caused by not enough tongue weight. They probably put all the weight on the rear of the trailer and caused it to sway from side to side. I did the same thing and it caused the identical damage.
Greg, as I stated before, your punkin needs more meet on his bones to handle that torque wrench. I would say that this repair was caused by someone who zigged when they should have zagged. Keep em coming brother.
I've got an idea how this happens. Let's put twice as much weight on the trailer than it holds. Then drive it on a freeway and hit lots of bumps It should be fine.
I've done that, as well as broken trailer frames on some of my trailers while only carrying 1/3 of the weight capacity thanks to City of Milwaukee's atrocious streets!
Loading a spring actually lengthins it as the spring flattens it, it gets longer. Which in turn holding it in place. Deep holes causing one wheel to be carried a long with missing "limiter Bolts". Tight turns along with scrub worsens suspension mishaps.
Okay, we found this video kinda funny... At the beginning of the video we were saying "okay how is he going to fix this ?"... We are so used to you scrapping the old damaged stuff and fabricating something real Stout & better. Moving along the video all you did was replace it with new parts, yes it was easier, but it threw us completely off. So we just looked at each other at the end of the video and said " That's it ?". So my husband says " I'm going to the barn"
last week i went in for a weekend job, to weld a trailer like that back together because the frame broke at the rear axle structure support so the back end fell down... 6 inch tall by 3 inch C-channel 1/8th wall with a 1/2 inch gap where it broke. brazed it all together in place with 10 7024 5/32'' 14'' rods and 20 5/32 6010 12'' rods, about an inch and a half past the brake even put a 3''x3"X1/4" plate on the top of the joint... took 3 hours. but for a 1/8th or 5/32nd wall C channel, its nearly structural like a 3''x3''x1/4'' L-channel... 10 ton trailer that theoretically can not have more then 1500lb roll up onto the rear tail without using blocks under the tail end corners. two car trailers should be made of 8 inch 1/4'' wall C-channel that has squared segments and three axles... because it it fits most of the time it gets used, another ... up goes another 18'000lb CAT up a 1500lb loading ramp on a 10K trailer... because it fits...
I'm thinking that a slipper spring setup, drop axles, and subsequent lack of fender clearance may have set up a perfect storm when a bad bounce was taken on the highway. The moment arm of the drop axle wrapping the leaf springs has pulled that slipper apart.
The reason this happened was the owner allowed an idiot to use it. It's very difficult to get good help these days. I hope you checked the other side for damage as the axles had to have twisted to some degree.
I did something similar to that on my trailer with same style suspension i hit a modular home tire & wheel the kind that dont have a center i believe there called bud wheels major damage i tried to miss it put also wasnt going to leave my lane cause a major accident
A little different from your normal field repairs. I flipped my 5th wheel RV axles and put MORryde shock absorbing suspension hangers. They're suppose to smooth the ride some.
Regardless of what happened, the suspension on that trailer looks really anemic! I believe that trailer would never pass inspection here in Europe.There was probably way too much weight on the back of the trailer and not enough on the tongue. Good that you got it back together again, but I would have felt more comfortable if you had put some stands of other supports underneath it. Cranes and rigging have been known to fail. Have a good, safe and peaceful Sunday.
just when i make a comment of not seeing your off side-er we get one with him in it sorry mate but good work right there i did notice others saying about the safety side and those pore buggers getting crushed and yes crane vises hydraulics is different but not a bit of a lesson learned by all i think here we all need to look towards safety first i am sure next time you will have other measures in place thanks for the videos i have a sit load to watch seeing i am the new guy on the block so to say Cheers
Trailer was way overloaded or no tongue weight and it started see-sawing. You can see where the tires hit the inside of the fender. Whatever it was they are lucky that stuff was new and someone like you did it. It might have ended a lot worse. If whoever did the welds on those hangers last time did them as well as I usually see trailer welds they could have lost the trailer, had a truck rollover, broke the entire axle out or killed somebody else.
Isn't that always the case "I don't know how it happened" or "it was like that when I got it" I heard that a lot working fleet maintenance welding on heavy equipment.
Overloaded and then ran over something . I personally don't care for the slider springs on a trailer. I owned one and it seemed like I was always working on it.
I can't believe trailers are still using junk drum brakes and what's really primitive is in order to change the bearings the whole dam drum has to come off
Perhaps there is space left on the truck for one of those inflatable lifting bags and that could be used as an added safety measure when working beneath crane loads.
The lower bolts in the rocking beam. Did they have sleeves over the bolts so tightening the bolt did come down on a solid. Not just squeeze the sheet metal together and back the nuts off.
So nobody found out what or why? Just replace parts. That were? New. Why, what, when, who, how. Caused the problem? Does not fix what needs to be repaired. Or just charge the owner and walk away?
My guess would be they had it overloaded and then hit a sharp bump? It almost looked like the axle tubes were crowned, but it could have just been the camera angle?
@@OFWyeah they keep you cleaner and contaminants off your clothes and then after you are finished you don’t have to get into your truck with the dirt of the day on you.
Never much cared for Slipper spring trailers. Torsion spring set ups All the way and quality employees which this company doesn't seem to have, IMHO 😊.
Haha, nobody takes care of your stuff like you will. Somebody didn't know how to load a trailer. When the trailer started swaying, they should've pulled over immediately and reconfigured the weight distribution. It happened to me on a lawn trailer years ago, but we pulled over and fixed it. These dudes kept rolling until they couldn't.
I've not seen a trailer's suspension fail quite like that. I've also never seen a man push on a torque wrench. Maybe saving his back. Nice turn around, well done.
The trailer was over loaded. Thats how that happens. When the trailer is way past its load rating and you hit a hard bump in the road is what happened. There are these things called "kinetic energy by excessive over loading" go to college and learn about math it may save your future at some point.
Again this same young man is with you and thank you for teacing him a skill/trade
Nice front tire skid mark on the inside of the fender.
If the spring retainer bolts are gone, I've found the trailer has either rolled, or nearly rolled, whether a light duty or commercial trailer. Seeing the chaos other drivers send to the guys that have to fix it never ceases to amuse me lmao. That was an overloaded trailer with an asshole puckering event. You and your guy made quick and good work, lubed the springs so that they're quiet and wear well. You'll keep the good operators happy and the bad ones on the road. Bent light duty axles are a given, until they affect camber or load handling haha Edit: Just noticed the tires impacted the fender too LMAO
My first thought was overload mixed with a bad road surface.
I look forward to your videos every week 😁
I’m always amazed how some people can destroy an anvil with a marshmallow. Good practice using the torque wrench. Keep cool and stay safe.
As usual great content! Really nice to see you guys in action!!! In my personal opinion only, and experience, it's always better to put something more for safety besides the crane when working underneath. Unfortunately, I know 2 guys that worked on repairing a shovel with the bucket up and there was some failure in the hydraulics, the bucket fell and crushed them both to death😢
Be safe! 🤟And keep up the wonderful work!💪
Totally agree with you. Safety first and productivity second.
Sadly I often see on UA-cam that safety comes third. Stupidly many youtubers jokes about it too when ignoring safety.
You only have to make 1 mistake, 1st last & only. Then you get to explain forever.
Big difference in working on hydraulics and causing them to fail, vs a separate system doing what it is designed to do like a crane. I understand your point, but almost every single hydraulic fatality I know of is caused by accidentally pressure loss, not mechanical failure. Humans ignorance/stupidity is the issue.
anything can fail@@FLYWHEELPRIME
A good worker there, not afraid to get dirty
I've seen that exact kind of damage! car was put on the trailer backwards putting the majority of the weight behind and or at the rear tandem axles. trailer started to fish tail and hopping from side to side. the guy was lucky it had electric brakes and knew to manually activate them to get the trailer under control, it almost flipped the truck he was towing with... the trailer had bent leafs and re-arranged the axles. 👍👍
one comment about working under this with no blocking, always great work, always impressed. I was afraid, so many stories about farmers having a tragedy
The suspension coming apart like that was caused by not enough tongue weight. They probably put all the weight on the rear of the trailer and caused it to sway from side to side. I did the same thing and it caused the identical damage.
Greg, as I stated before, your punkin needs more meet on his bones to handle that torque wrench. I would say that this repair was caused by someone who zigged when they should have zagged. Keep em coming brother.
I've got an idea how this happens. Let's put twice as much weight on the trailer than it holds. Then drive it on a freeway and hit lots of bumps It should be fine.
I was going to make a similar comment. Seen it happen several times.
Hey that’s like the Pakistani truck drivers overloading continually and then, surprise, the diff housing and front beam axle breaks. 😮😂😂👍🇦🇺
I've done that, as well as broken trailer frames on some of my trailers while only carrying 1/3 of the weight capacity thanks to City of Milwaukee's atrocious streets!
My exact thought too!!!!!
Loading a spring actually lengthins it as the spring flattens it, it gets longer.
Which in turn holding it in place.
Deep holes causing one wheel to be carried a long with missing "limiter Bolts". Tight turns along with scrub worsens suspension mishaps.
Okay, we found this video kinda funny... At the beginning of the video we were saying "okay how is he going to fix this ?"... We are so used to you scrapping the old damaged stuff and fabricating something real Stout & better. Moving along the video all you did was replace it with new parts, yes it was easier, but it threw us completely off. So we just looked at each other at the end of the video and said " That's it ?". So my husband says " I'm going to the barn"
Great video again love seeing your work just looking at the spring's they don't seem big enough for the size of the trailer
Thanks for sharing! Y’all guys stay safe! 👍
I work on these all the time. Usually the only thing really wrong is the driver dragging them around. Overload it and jump some curbs lol!
That's not warranty work, that's abuse!
On a trailer I like to see the leaf springs with eyes on both ends. Through bolted and a center trunnion made of cast iron
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Another great project,thank you for sharing, i learn a lot ,always a pleasure watch your video, dream team 👍👍👍👍
last week i went in for a weekend job, to weld a trailer like that back together because the frame broke at the rear axle structure support so the back end fell down... 6 inch tall by 3 inch C-channel 1/8th wall with a 1/2 inch gap where it broke. brazed it all together in place with 10 7024 5/32'' 14'' rods and 20 5/32 6010 12'' rods, about an inch and a half past the brake even put a 3''x3"X1/4" plate on the top of the joint... took 3 hours. but for a 1/8th or 5/32nd wall C channel, its nearly structural like a 3''x3''x1/4'' L-channel... 10 ton trailer that theoretically can not have more then 1500lb roll up onto the rear tail without using blocks under the tail end corners. two car trailers should be made of 8 inch 1/4'' wall C-channel that has squared segments and three axles... because it it fits most of the time it gets used, another ... up goes another 18'000lb CAT up a 1500lb loading ramp on a 10K trailer... because it fits...
Best in the valley!
Those springs didn't fail, they just needed an adjustment 🤣🤣
I'm watching from Turkey. I'd appreciate it if you used subtitles. Good luck.
Morning, Saturday coffees on,brother !here we go!!;-)!
Super common...equalizer issues.
Be sure spring limiter bolts are IN !
Marvelous Greg......
Sweet trailer !
You know damn well using your crane to get better access to the suspension is cheating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
767👍's up on fire welding thank you for sharing 😎
Hope this wasn't considered warranty work as that S was clearly overloaded.
Definitely not warranty work
That’s nice trailer good job on that
Wow, both sides were like that?
Good job as always
Axle is looking mighty curvy
It’s supposed to be like that.
Another visit from the Fah King; this time, his Royal majesty knackered the fahking leaf spring !
I'm thinking that a slipper spring setup, drop axles, and subsequent lack of fender clearance may have set up a perfect storm when a bad bounce was taken on the highway. The moment arm of the drop axle wrapping the leaf springs has pulled that slipper apart.
Guess you’re eating the cost? You’re a good guy..
Nope. It wasn’t my fault
Dang that crane makes it nice
There you go. Nice job
The reason this happened was the owner allowed an idiot to use it. It's very difficult to get good help these days. I hope you checked the other side for damage as the axles had to have twisted to some degree.
Change your vehicle's oil and trailer leaf springs every 3,000 miles.
That sure is an easy job when you have a crane...
I did something similar to that on my trailer with same style suspension i hit a modular home tire & wheel the kind that dont have a center i believe there called bud wheels major damage i tried to miss it put also wasnt going to leave my lane cause a major accident
The junk springs. Make them into spring bars so you have all kinds of them around.
Helper did all the work
That's his job ;)
A little different from your normal field repairs.
I flipped my 5th wheel RV axles and put MORryde shock absorbing suspension hangers. They're suppose to smooth the ride some.
Regardless of what happened, the suspension on that trailer looks really anemic! I believe that trailer would never pass inspection here in Europe.There was probably way too much weight on the back of the trailer and not enough on the tongue. Good that you got it back together again, but I would have felt more comfortable if you had put some stands of other supports underneath it. Cranes and rigging have been known to fail. Have a good, safe and peaceful Sunday.
just when i make a comment of not seeing your off side-er we get one with him in it sorry mate but good work right there i did notice others saying about the safety side and those pore buggers getting crushed and yes crane vises hydraulics is different but not a bit of a lesson learned by all i think here we all need to look towards safety first i am sure next time you will have other measures in place thanks for the videos i have a sit load to watch seeing i am the new guy on the block so to say Cheers
Trailer was way overloaded or no tongue weight and it started see-sawing. You can see where the tires hit the inside of the fender.
Whatever it was they are lucky that stuff was new and someone like you did it. It might have ended a lot worse.
If whoever did the welds on those hangers last time did them as well as I usually see trailer welds they could have lost the trailer, had a truck rollover, broke the entire axle out or killed somebody else.
Isn't that always the case "I don't know how it happened" or "it was like that when I got it" I heard that a lot working fleet maintenance welding on heavy equipment.
Right! Someone knows how it happened
Overloaded and then ran over something . I personally don't care for the slider springs on a trailer. I owned one and it seemed like I was always working on it.
I recommend torsion axles but this is what they wanted.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Who ever came up with that saying knew just how you feel. Another great vid by the way.
I can't believe trailers are still using junk drum brakes and what's really primitive is in order to change the bearings the whole dam drum has to come off
Hahaha! I can't figure that one out either. Maybe jumped over a set of railroad tracks and got some air! LOL
Nice quick work. Stay safe.
I'd like to know why that happened.
Overloaded
Perhaps there is space left on the truck for one of those inflatable lifting bags and that could be used as an added safety measure when working beneath crane loads.
I believe they need to find someone more qualified to pull that trailer ! Good Job men !!
Well done Gentlemen.....
Bon BOULO 😆😆👍👍
Nicely repaired until the next time it gets destroyed
It may be the picture but the front axle looks like it took a good hit
Could be intentional camber
Good work guys, but both of the axles are bent. You can see it in the video. Center of the axle is ben t upwards.
It’s supposed to be like that
The lower bolts in the rocking beam. Did they have sleeves over the bolts so tightening the bolt did come down on a solid. Not just squeeze the sheet metal together and back the nuts off.
Springs are way too small 😮 mine are 7 leaf each, eye to eye rockers. That will happen again in the near future.
I think It was a hard braking. Nothing holds the axles in horizontal direction. , that is why the leaf springs are twisted, not bent upwards.
How?
Axle looks a bit bent also, those guys take it off road?
They are supposed to have a bend in them.
The owner must have let his friend move fire wood with it. At least that’s what happened with mine. 😖
dominating
Someone recklessly OVERLOADED TRAILER!!!!
MAYBE WAS OVERLOADED AND WAY OUT OF BALANCE AND IT HOPPED A LARGE POT HOLE. OR A LIGHT LOAD THAT HOPPED A LARGE POT HOLE SO THE TIRES GOT AIRBORNE?
That it look like too much weight that the trailer is rate it for?
Because that look like light duty trailer
7k axles they had about 10k on it. Don’t think it was over weight.
Are those axles meant to be bent ?
Regards Richard
Most are bent so that they will have a little camber, help the tires to wear even & to help stay on the road
Yes they are
So nobody found out what or why? Just replace parts. That were? New. Why, what, when, who, how. Caused the problem? Does not fix what needs to be repaired. Or just charge the owner and walk away?
Plain and simple abuse,nothing to check.
Do you guys have to warranty anything you do?
If it is my fault then yes I will, but I don’t believe this was my fault.
@@OFW I always tell my customers if they break it, then they're doing something they shouldn't aught to be doing lol
My guess would be they had it overloaded and then hit a sharp bump? It almost looked like the axle tubes were crowned, but it could have just been the camera angle?
They have a natural crown to them.
@@OFW Ah, didn't know that.
@@OFW I was thinking torsion axles might have crowns but I didn't think leaf spring axles did. Learned something new.
State police may have left something in the road again.
You ever think of using coveralls?
I use to wear them. I thought about getting some more.
@@OFWyeah they keep you cleaner and contaminants off your clothes and then after you are finished you don’t have to get into your truck with the dirt of the day on you.
just seeing parts in the dirt new ones lol ugh sigh ahahah
I’m going to guess overloaded.
the axles looked bent as well in the video, might just be the angle though.
many trailer axles have a factory bend in them, helps keep the wheels "straight" when loaded as the axle will flex anyway.
Camber
There lucky they didn't bend the trailer.
That suspension could have been designed stronger
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drove over another trailer
Never much cared for Slipper spring trailers. Torsion spring set ups All the way and quality employees which this company doesn't seem to have, IMHO 😊.
🌏🤝🛠️🇹🇭❤️🙏
to much weight on it is what happened
Boop
Haha, nobody takes care of your stuff like you will. Somebody didn't know how to load a trailer. When the trailer started swaying, they should've pulled over immediately and reconfigured the weight distribution. It happened to me on a lawn trailer years ago, but we pulled over and fixed it. These dudes kept rolling until they couldn't.
I've not seen a trailer's suspension fail quite like that. I've also never seen a man push on a torque wrench. Maybe saving his back. Nice turn around, well done.
1st
The trailer was over loaded. Thats how that happens. When the trailer is way past its load rating and you hit a hard bump in the road is what happened. There are these things called "kinetic energy by excessive over loading" go to college and learn about math it may save your future at some point.
Never went to college and never will. My future is fine.