For myself personally, when I had an injury (broken arm) so I couldn't play Odin 2 at least gave me the chance to still be creative and construct my ideas out
When I see these things, I have to remind myself that someone still needs to understand music to make this sound good. When I keep that in the front of my mind, this is sick. I could also see that something like this would be awesome for a guitarist that loses the functionality of their hands.
Exactly. You still need to have musical sense to make good music, just like with any other virtual instrument on the market. Besides, it's one thing to emulate modern, hyper edited djent/whatever and another to make it sound like let's say Yngwie.
For some the little detail controls you have to put in to get a riff you might play, a good thing is you probably only need to do it once. You can use the midi for left and right, and you can copy paste it for every time the riff happens. Great vid
It sounds surprisingly good! I personally wouldn’t program guitar, but i do with bass, because i suck at playing it and i’m too lazy to change my strings. But mostly because i just double synthesized bass with "real bass"
i've been using the hellrazer plugin from ample these can sound really good if you take the time to finetune the midi properly ,if you don't have proper recording gear itcan be worth , if you already have the gear to record, just use the guitar is WAY faster
Fret realism is the only significant up Odin 3 has on Odin 2. That being said, it is a REALLY big up, and the only thing preventing me from upgrading is the hassle it'll be to program the triggers 😭
Beyond all the fret selection options, Odin 3 has far more articulations, more velocity range, more & better pinch harmonics and a lot more. You also don’t necessarily need to manually change the string selection, as there are string selection presets that already change your riffs massively without touching a single keyswitch
When double tracking how would you make it so the sound profiles of each recording aren't just the same for L and R? My understanding is that the subtle differences that emerge in natural playing of each panned track is what gives double tracking the meaty sound we are looking for
I can't seem to get those low tunings with reaper since the note range is only up to C2 and after that it starts playing those key switches. Anyone else with the same issue and how did you solve it??
So I can make demos while I don't have a guitar available with an actual guitar tone rather than a synth appriximation? Shut up and take my money. Edit:spelling
@@vanessalaplaige8806the don’t buy it lol you speak as if it’s mandated. Stop pretending to be offended and take off that Karen wig, it’s not a good look.
It all depends on how you program them and where on the fretboard you play them. The notes were recorded for real with a real guitar, so they sound real. It's up to the user to control how they are performed when put together (and which articulations to use when). If you're having trouble programming a particular riff, don't hesitate to contact us with your midi and I'm sure we can improve it :)
i wont buy something i can get away with using for free because i cant afford to drop money everywhere. this is also why im using a cracked copy of ableton 11
No, unless you have baritone maybe , even then it might be unusable for anything above drop C unless you get super thin guitar string like 007 set maybe
Why would you want to use something like that. One thing I always liked about metal is that the bands put efford into learning there instrument. Please enlighten me if I am missing something, but I think this is going the same way as all the popculture bullshit. It cheating 🤷♂️
It's a great songwriting instrument to put together a pre-production. Also great for people that can't play guitar or have access to a guitar player that knows how to record properly. Also fantastic for people that are missing hands or fingers and are otherwise physically unable to play guitar. It's okay, man, you can go into the woods and carve your music with a wooden stick into a bronze disc, we won't bother you.
In case you don’t understand how physics work, all music, just like all the sounds we hear are physically real because they are vibrations making the air move. Whether it’s someone playing a Ukulele next to you, A garage band’s demo recording on a shitty 4 track, A big metal band with sample replaced drums and guitars recorded bit by bit, but all played by real people, Or electronic music played or programmed by someone with hardware or a computer. When it’s expressing emotion through sound, it’s music.
Get the Odin 3 plugin from Solemn Tones here: solemntones.com/products/odin-iii?sca_ref=6593138.2HDGKnNf4z
When you're going to see a band
and one of the guitarist just pulls up with a plugin
with a back-up air guitar of course
Bass players gona be replacing their guitar players now
dj fuckman is the name midi thall is the game
@@tfwnoyandere this comment should be in the video description
@@narcostarko the revenue for this video should be in my bank account
skirting the system by playing a baritone 7-string in drop f#
27 inch or 28 inch scale length?
@@noahbrewer2476 27. it’s actually the stephen carpenter tele 7-string.
I do the exact same 😅 27.5-25.5 multiscale, the guitar just seems to sing like it wants to be in frop F#
Exactly! 7 string baritone is better than 8, IMO.
@@horse_dogdude I gotta know: how do you like it? I’m in the market for a 7 string baritone.
For myself personally, when I had an injury (broken arm) so I couldn't play Odin 2 at least gave me the chance to still be creative and construct my ideas out
Oh dang it’s the Berried Alive plugin!!!!
😂
Berried and Rings...?
Lol
Ok, the sheer amount of articulation on this thing is way more than most plugins have.
Oh Dang! it has a Built in Evertune! Sick! 🤣
This is definitely the best version of something like this I have heard.
I want that 8 string explorer
It's from Balaguer, you can get one, you can even customize the specs and everything in their builder
I've been using different products from Solemn Tones for years and I always love them. I need to upgrade my Odin 2 asap!
Great instrument--Odin 3 is killer!
ok this is making me glad i upgraded to odin 3 jesus christ
When I see these things, I have to remind myself that someone still needs to understand music to make this sound good. When I keep that in the front of my mind, this is sick. I could also see that something like this would be awesome for a guitarist that loses the functionality of their hands.
Exactly. You still need to have musical sense to make good music, just like with any other virtual instrument on the market.
Besides, it's one thing to emulate modern, hyper edited djent/whatever and another to make it sound like let's say Yngwie.
you been looking fantastic lately good for you bud
For some the little detail controls you have to put in to get a riff you might play, a good thing is you probably only need to do it once. You can use the midi for left and right, and you can copy paste it for every time the riff happens. Great vid
It sounds surprisingly good!
I personally wouldn’t program guitar, but i do with bass, because i suck at playing it and i’m too lazy to change my strings.
But mostly because i just double synthesized bass with "real bass"
Ok, this sounds real.
Okay but this is sick
Kmac warned us! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
When you talk about double tracking, do you have to manually create a slightly difference in time/velocity for every note or is completely authomatic?
Devin Shidaker signature Typhon? Looks amazing!!!
That plugin actually sounds really good.
I have a nashville telecaster tuned to A F A# D# G C along with a dt whammy pedal...
Good, now there is some parity in the scene for us bassists.
programmed vs real guitar part 2 when?
This is perfect for my friend who had his left arm amputated & yet has so many ideas in his head. Will it emulate a Bass VI, too?
It won’t have the same sound as that since it’s simulating an 8 string with humbuckers, not a single coil sound like most bass vi’s
Didn’t have one in the first place. Now I really need one
In drop E rn on a 26.5in $200 Jackson with a Nazgul bridge and it CHONKS!!!
I was playing that $200 7 they have yesterday at guitar center, surprisingly decent for $200
@@chstewart3715 fr tho the build Q is deeeecent. If your good with setting them up too it can feel almost as good as a schecter diamond series guitar
Yeah, I’ll always opt to tune a 7 string down over an 8
I’ve always just used 6 and 7 strings and then pitch shifted lower with a pedal or plugin if necessary. My hands are too small for 8+ strings lol
sick bro!
i've been using the hellrazer plugin from ample these can sound really good if you take the time to finetune the midi properly ,if you don't have proper recording gear itcan be worth , if you already have the gear to record, just use the guitar is WAY faster
Fret realism is the only significant up Odin 3 has on Odin 2. That being said, it is a REALLY big up, and the only thing preventing me from upgrading is the hassle it'll be to program the triggers 😭
Beyond all the fret selection options, Odin 3 has far more articulations, more velocity range, more & better pinch harmonics and a lot more. You also don’t necessarily need to manually change the string selection, as there are string selection presets that already change your riffs massively without touching a single keyswitch
its actually really easy
When double tracking how would you make it so the sound profiles of each recording aren't just the same for L and R? My understanding is that the subtle differences that emerge in natural playing of each panned track is what gives double tracking the meaty sound we are looking for
I explain that in this video but there is a setting where you select guitar 1 and 2 respectively for the two layers
@@BaenaCarcosa oh and so how is guitar 2 different from guitar 1?
@@Chris971.i believe guitar 2 is a little bit delayed so it makes it sound like its 2 different guitars
@@sorlak_12 if that's true it's basically the doubler from the Petrucci Neural DSP. Kinda disappointing
@@sorlak_12 theyre an entirely different set of samples, over 50,000 samples were taken for this plugin
Odin 3 vs Shreddage 3 vid?
2 things i noticed in this video: andrew calling 8 strings obsolete and putting his guitar on his right leg
How are you bending that first note??
I can't seem to get those low tunings with reaper since the note range is only up to C2 and after that it starts playing those key switches. Anyone else with the same issue and how did you solve it??
....what if you have a song that Uses a low F# and a 24th fret E?
CAN WE get the midi
that sounded like alaska xd
This is cool and I support the advancements of plugins, but I’d rather just play it to save time
So I can make demos while I don't have a guitar available with an actual guitar tone rather than a synth appriximation? Shut up and take my money.
Edit:spelling
I’m not selling my 8 string in favor of a progral
You're about to be left behind, bro.
rub your fingers in the blood and continue until people who have not picked up a guitar will make music with VST plug-ins
Nobody is telling you to do that. Nobody is trying replace you, the rest of us just want a powerful guitar vst.
@@codexstudios i understand but I’m not using a program it just rubs me the wrong way
@@vanessalaplaige8806the don’t buy it lol you speak as if it’s mandated. Stop pretending to be offended and take off that Karen wig, it’s not a good look.
They need to make the high notes sound more realistic.
It all depends on how you program them and where on the fretboard you play them. The notes were recorded for real with a real guitar, so they sound real. It's up to the user to control how they are performed when put together (and which articulations to use when). If you're having trouble programming a particular riff, don't hesitate to contact us with your midi and I'm sure we can improve it :)
No disrespect. All VSTi guitars seem to have this problem.
aw man
How is this easier than just playing a real guitar?
As an unemployed guitar player I really don't approve this.. 🤘🤪👌
After I just bought one….
Whats better than a 8 string guitar? 20 8 string guitars.
It is faster to learn guitar than to program this shit
It really isn't. Don't underestimate the work and dedication you need to learn an instrument
Anymore? Never did. *laughs in boomer*
GOTTEM
Mhm
Sounds cool, but that's it.
Dude, buy Reaper💀, that EVALUATION LICENSE on the video is stressing me out. It's not expensive!
i wont buy something i can get away with using for free because i cant afford to drop money everywhere. this is also why im using a cracked copy of ableton 11
I still want to play an actual 8 String lol
Cool plugin
Not my taste
Yeah but , cheapest 8 string guitar in my region already more than 2 Times the price of this plugin
I’m smoking a cigarette I rolled myself to this video
Just tune your 6 string down
No, unless you have baritone maybe , even then it might be unusable for anything above drop C unless you get super thin guitar string like 007 set maybe
It does not sound like a real guitar, metal nowadays is overproduced and sounds artificial. Thats the point where both worlds meet
Maybe Andrew tones is simply not that great,
so why do you still play guitar?
Hendrix didn’t need computers
😂
He also didn't need an 8 string!
hendrix is trash
Unironically this. If you're just going to program everything what even is the point anymore?
I have the djenn bass. Super upset when they sent me the Kontact serial.
That is not our product
Also, most paid Kontakt libraries also run in the free Kontakt player. And it’s written the system requirements.
Becoming more of a boomer everyday lol. I just….can’t with this lol.
Never had any interest in a 8 string. 7 strings? That's my jam. 6 strings? If I have to. 8? Hell no.
Oh we don't need an 8 string because there's a plugin for it? Smh... cringe
Why would you want to use something like that. One thing I always liked about metal is that the bands put efford into learning there instrument. Please enlighten me if I am missing something, but I think this is going the same way as all the popculture bullshit. It cheating 🤷♂️
It's a great songwriting instrument to put together a pre-production. Also great for people that can't play guitar or have access to a guitar player that knows how to record properly. Also fantastic for people that are missing hands or fingers and are otherwise physically unable to play guitar. It's okay, man, you can go into the woods and carve your music with a wooden stick into a bronze disc, we won't bother you.
so who’s still there just because he-she just… enjoys playing guitar ?
So real music is dead.
You sound like the hippy b*tching about how Led Zeppelin killed "real music".
In case you don’t understand how physics work, all music, just like all the sounds we hear are physically real because they are vibrations making the air move.
Whether it’s someone playing a Ukulele next to you,
A garage band’s demo recording on a shitty 4 track,
A big metal band with sample replaced drums and guitars recorded bit by bit, but all played by real people,
Or electronic music played or programmed by someone with hardware or a computer.
When it’s expressing emotion through sound, it’s music.
People will say shit like this and then use a Spitfire library instead of hiring an orchestra
With that logic, real music has been dead since at least the 80s or whenever DAWs emerged where you could program MIDI and have it play sounds.
@@Tremendouz , yeah, but guys like Crcmvnt would rather bemoan every new musical technological aid than face reality.