I have never felt so involved in the lifes of two strangers on the internet (and the pregnancy story was such a plottwist!?). I absolutely need a follow-up on these two!!
@@melissaatwood6172 hahah no I dont think I did but I havent searched recently- if you find one let me know! Thanks for bringing me back to this video hahah
As a compromise, she could ask him to go to church with her and the kid on holidays. But asking a non-religious person to go to church every week is too much.
the religious difference is never gonna stop being a problem if she makes him go to church with her. either he’s going to have to spend an hour or two lying every week or he’s going to come into regular conflict with others who aren’t as tolerant of him not believing as she is. the only way the difference could really be settled is them both actually respecting each other’s approach to faith: him being okay with her attending, and her being okay with him not attending.
This is so right, like he already isn't disagreeing with her faith and if that was me I'd be constantly debating that faith with her because I don't agree with it. He's already so supportive of her faith and she should give that to him in return.
It's so interesting that she would prefer a Christian man, when she herself doesn't live a Christian lifestyle (e.g. having sex before marriage, kissing lots of guys in one night). It shouldn't come as a surprise to her that the men she attracts are non-Christian men given that the life she lives doesn't reflect that of a Christian's.
I know of couple where the wife is a regular church attender, I think probably has been most of her life, and the husband wants nothing to do with it. I don't believe I've even ever met him because I only know her through church. However, they make it work somehow. Certainly not ideal, but props to her for being so strong in her faith yet so loving towards her husband.
I agree. I can see it as a thing you want your partner to see, your hobbies, or in this case something more to her, but it doesn't mean he has to come to all of them as hes not religious in my eyes. I thought he didn't like that idea but swallowed it to compromise to be with her. Then again not my relationship.
Your right, but she did say that it was more of a supportive gesture rather than him actually believing. In my case, my dad is an atheist while my mother and i are christian, we dont expect him to change his beliefs, but we do find it sweet and thoughtful when he agrees to go to church with us, not because it makes us think maybe he will convert, its because it makes us feel loved and greatfull that he cares enough *for us* to join us in this thing he may not agree with.
This. He's not into her like that and we could tell. She's holding onto something that's not there anymore. Friendship yes but I don't think he could give her what she wants in a partner. She's definitely hopeful for more.
Guys who are highly dramatic and emotional are very hard to date long term. They are a lot of fun at first, but the longer the relationship runs, the more difficult it becomes. I have a feeling they will do great... for a while... then the reality of his impulsivity and her having a baby will shut things down... not to mention compulsive weekly church attendance.
UPDATE: I did some sleuthing cause I was bored. They don't seem to be together or publicly talkin, but they both seem well from their small internet presence, and her baby is cute. Saved you all the time and the shame.
Religion is deal breaker and you cannot force someone or guilt them into going. She needs to focus on healing and becoming a new mom. They seem like the type to be good friends that keep in touch.
She specifically said that she would want him going to church every week as support but that he doesn’t need to believe but I personally would not want to go 💀
Religion is not a deal breaker but expecting the other half to fully support it or go to church with you is… my partner of 10 years is religious and I am not, we are super strong together and he doesn’t push his belief onto me. I will never go to a church again after my bad experience and he is fine with that.
It's so interesting that she would prefer a Christian man, when she herself doesn't live a Christian lifestyle (e.g. having sex before marriage, kissing lots of guys in one night). It shouldn't come as a surprise to her that the men she attracts are non-Christian men given that the life she lives doesn't reflect that of a Christian's.
@@faysmit4799 no it’s not it’s human nature everyone pushes their believe on everyone. Like the belief of the current agendas that are pushed so hard on us in society and we now accept them as “normal”
@@faysmit4799 ironic cause I’m 18 and always debate so you can say I’m pretty open minded but sure if you say so. I’m probrably “close minded “ because no one can disprove me with statements 🤷🏽♂️
Bro y'all are saying she's a red flag when he cheated on her and then touched her inappropriately while she was asleep and then sent her romantic mixtapes while she was in Korea
Yes that wasn't right and he didn't really seem proper to take advantage of someone like that! It made me really angry that he took advantage of that moment and only brought it up when it came topic. He didn't even register it and that's scary!!!!
@@kzeetha Roll your eyes all you want. Christian trama is a real thing. If you want to see who is fighting to KEEP child brides look no further. Talk about child grooming
Her trying to guilt him into going to church when he isn't religious is a big yikes from me. I'm an atheist myself any kind of pressure like that is an immediate dealbreaker. You can support your partner's religion by allowing them to practice and go to church. Her insistence on him going to church shows she has no respect for his beliefs.
she said so many times that she isn’t pressuring him, AND she literally acknowledged that he had religious trauma. wanting your partner to support you in your religion and POSSIBLY come to faith isn’t pushing religion onto them. especially when you want your child to be raised in that religion. y’all always think speaking of wanting someone to be part of your faith is disrespectful, but it’s not. it’s our identity, and yes it is a deal breaker for people, because that’s what our entire life is based upon!
@@amw2005 she stated it would be very important for him to go to church every week to “support her religion.” Why can’t she respect his beliefs and go without him? He’s respecting her religion by not having an issue with her attending and practicing but she doesn’t respect his beliefs
All I gotta say is this is a huge train wreck waiting to happen. They may seem all lovey dovey “oh let’s get back together, we’ll give it another try” for the sake of the video, but once reality settles in, stuff is gonna get real, especially since she’s pregnant with someone else’s baby and she’s trying to make him go to church with her. He’s gonna back out once reality hits.
Once he realizes he doesn’t want to be a cuck and raise a Korean baby he will cheat on her again. Can’t blame the Korean for knocking her up though, she was probably cute before this happened
This whole conversation felt like she was asking permission to settle; and that he was unsure if he should say yes because of the history and feelings she invoked in him, or if he should stay true to himself and say no but then potentially lose a friend and a relationship that he didn't want to lose. It was a soft kind of painful, and there were many more half truths than there was a coming together and healing or growth.
I think because of his past act of cheating to her, I believe he didn't feel like in a place to make the first step into asking getting together again. He could only apologize and look out for the responds she would give towards him. Other than that he showed affection towards her as well and didn't express any emotional or physical distance towards her. So, I don't really think it was only a one-sided need for that reason. I mean he proposed her to meet there and have this conversation and you can also hear out of their conversation that they had been in contact all the time through digital chats.
I feel bad for the Korean guy who she broke up with and told that she was going to America. I hope he has the option to at least visit occasionally or FaceTime her and his baby. It must be hard to be told you got a girl pregnant and forever knowing that you have a child somewhere in the world without being able to actually be a parent like how you envisioned to be. Hope he got the option to be involved even from afar.
He called her childish and he wasn't responsible enough to ensure she was on contraception or to use a condom or to get Plan B (granted, apparently in Korea the process of getting the morning after pill is a bit more involved because their society has not yet decided if it counts as abortion or not) the morning after even when she had the feeling that night that she might be in the process of conceiving. His situation is still pretty rough but I can't bring myself to feel that much sympathy for him.
@@ShaunCheah u don’t know the full conversation leading up to him calling her childish. Her breaking up with him before even confirming that she’s pregnant then choosing to more to away with his baby knowing he has no say in it is childish. If he’s irresponsible then so is she but even with all the precautions it’s still fully possible to get pregnant
@@ShaunCheah Funny how you're solely blaming him for her getting pregnant. If they didn't want to get pregnant then having sex without any contraception was both of their faults. He didn't wear a condom. She allowed him to enter her without a condom. She wasn't on birth control. She didn't take the morning after pill. She decided against abortion.
@@janaeivory7914 If my girl broke up with me...then a few weeks later told me she's pregnant and she's going to move to a different country 10,000 miles away and I'd probably never get the opportunity to raise my own kid...I think "childish" would be the nicest of all the things I would call her.
It seems like he grew a lot since they dated, and she didnt. I would wish them to be friends. They seem good for each other, but there might be too many differences in what they want. I appreciated that they were both honest.
I do not think they will ever work. If he is not into religion, he should not be forced to go to church or participate in it. He does not care what her religion is, why can't she do the same?
@@maddiemaryanne426 She didn't force him, but he would have to force himself to go, to stay with her. And as for the reason why she cant care about his religion the way he does. Is because she is religious, and he is not. People have different values. Its very egocentric to ask why people cannot be like you.
@@kelvinopara7297 um they broke up because he cheated .they literally dated for along time with her knowing he's not religious so you're literally making no fucking sense 😅
@@Lilian040210 I mean I do agree on that I'm atheist an don't think we should make our kids be just like us because it's our religion.but that's a sticky situation because obviously she wants the best for her children an she wants to share her faith with them so idk
I know people are complicated and do things for their own reasons, and while I don’t really understand or agree with Tauvias life choices, I do appreciate that she is forthright about her expectations of Alfonso. If he knows that weekly church attendance and raising someone else’s kid is part of the package, and he wants to involve himself, I wish them the best, truly.
The idea that getting accidentally pregnant is God's choice and you therefore can't do anything about that, and have no control over your life, is such a dangerous mindset.
lol nah. 2 weeks ago, I found out I'm going to be a dad. It wasn't planned, not for a year or two at least. If you don't want kids, wear protection. If you don't, it's your responsibility and consequences, and not your right to take away a life you accidentally created lolol
That’s just her outlook on life. I like to think everything happens for a reason. She chose the path that she thought would be best for her, there was nothing wrong with that.
This is the best one I've seen so far. The connection makes the 12h so much better and so much less awkward. Whether it be with a married couple, family members, active couple, divorced, etc., the connection adds so much.
@@hdbevewhvebd4707 My dude I have spent more than twenty-eight of the thirty years of my life so far single and at this point I would be in the pews four hours a day six days a week if it meant I'd have someone who cared about me with whom I could spend the rest of my life.
The comments here disgust me. This woman got pregnant with a guy's baby from Korea, broke up with him the day after, moved thousands of kilometres away from the father, and suddenly is trying to make her ex become the new father; but he's the one "leading her on"? It doesn't excuse his cheating but come on, people.
they are both trash. He plays the soft-spoken sensitive guy yet touches her without consent, she does the things you mentioned. Its crazy how toxic couple are.
It aint like she fucked them all, do you really get insecure at spin the bottle? Like, man. She wasn't his girl and probably HAS fucked people before him, not a virgin either, like he's not any worse off than any of the other people (girls included) she kissed, like she kissed a bunch of people, and then started dating and having sex exclusively with one of them. "oh no my girlie kissed another little boy before me!" - said my goddamn little brother prolly.
I think she's still in love with him and deep down inside wishes he was the father of her child. In my opinion, he should distance himself from her so she has time to heal. Based on what she said it seems like he doesn't know what he wants and is still leading her along - giving her hope that they could rekindle their relationship. Really wish her the best with her child and hope that she can find someone who isn't going to play around with her feelings.
Sorry but as someone who had a very similar situation to this guy , the guilt is what makes us seem "Not knowing" or leading people is not it. It's the now dreading feeling of failing someone you now see as perfect that fucks you up mentally cause you once did fuck up with them and caused them trouble. The guilt and self-work you need to do on yourself to better your wrongs is insanely draining. I find it very stuck up from you to judge him like this because obviously he has a big decision to make and he doesn't (I wouldn't ) feel worthy of her after what he has done, it's as simple as that. Not everyone stays evil and plays with people for fun, some are in bad head spaces , make mistakes and try to learn and live by them.
Yea I am 6 mins in and I can see she wants to be with him still. I get the sense that he doesn't know what he wants but he knows for sure that she is safe. If its intentional he is wrong for doing it. If not they definitely both need to seek help apart. My ex is this way. When he gets lonely or bored of whomever he is with he always texts me like we are still together. I don't encourage it becuase he hurt me big time and while I know I still love him. I am at peace loving him from afar. Hope it positively works out for the both of them.
Nah, he called her, that's the difference. And he broke it off with her after cheating (though she prolly would've, not implying like she wanted to stay together.) So it's not like she went after him cause she wanted him for the money, and neither of them expected to end up together. These are real people, not one of those "nerd gets rejected by prom queen, 10 years later pregnant prom queen begs nerd for a ride in his corvette" memes.
I don’t like that he cheated on her, but I also don’t like the way she got pregnant by someone else and is now hoping he’ll be there for her and her child. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. They would make great friends and he’d be a great uncle to her child - but I don’t see this relationship lasting if it went back to being one.
How is the second one a wrong though? They weren't together so it's not like she cheated. If he doesn't want that responsibility he should've said no... I agree though that it seemed a bit like she guilted him because of his cheating...
I need a whole video about meeting the Korean guy and the aftermath of her leaving to America. I really hope they compromise so they can both be there for the kid, cause that would suck if the guy couldn’t interact or be there for their child.
the fact that she wants him to go to the church every week because it's her identity is so toxic. like girl. it's your identity not his. especially with his religious trauma, she shouldn't be so pushy about it. it's like he has to accept the fact that she is religious but she can't accept that he's not. no fucking way. also, you can totally be the one who's in charge of your life even if you believe in god. obviously it's her religion and her choice so as long it's really what she wants then it's fine, just don't push it on other people.
As an atheist, I would never go to church on a weekly basis for anyone. That would be a betrayal to myself. Even if it was framed as "support" that's completely disrespectful to me and my beliefs.
Yeah the only reason I went to church with my mom was because despite not being religious I wasn't an atheist. And even when I followed my mom to church and prayed with her I was never actively pushed to become religious. There were some who tried and my mom actually shielded me from them because she knew I disliked propagating. You gotta respect the boundaries man.
@@sapphicalix it definitely can be support. but it depends on how BOTH partners see it. if he sees it as a betrayal to his own beliefs then it is unsupportive for her to demand he come with her. honestly it just seems like they have some very conflicting integral ideas
Same. I wouldn't go weekly but maybe once every 3 months (staying outside probably) or to hang out with my partner's religious friends and know them a bit would be ok, but I'm not really all that for pretending to be like I do believe lol, especially if I have traumas or bad experiences like its implied he did. Most likely, if people at the church found out he was an atheist they would either try to push him into religion more and more, or trash talk him on his back about how disrespectful it is to come to church without being a believer lol. Had an aunt who forced her fiance to accompany her to church, and part of the reason of why they broke up was that the church friends talked trash about the atheist fiance to my aunt every single day, and made her feel like it was disrespectful to god to be with an atheist, and if she did she was worth less as a person
That chick really just left that babies dad in Korea. Also if you were so "scared" of getting pregnant why wouldn't you do anything to protect yourself from getting pregnant.
Sorry but nobody just makes a playlist for someone and doesn’t mean to send a message thru it unless it’s like “oh this is my own fav playlist, you should listen” lmao
For the church issue I feel like that's going to be a really hard thing to get by, because I know that me personally I have a lot of religious trauma so going into a church would only bring back those negative emotions even if I was going just to support someone if I had to go weekly it would definitely deteriorate my mental health. I don't know their specific situation judging by what they said based on his dad and how pushy he was with religion on him, that's going to be a serious conversation that they need to have.
im sorry to hear about your religious trauma, ive seen this same issue with a lot of people, im wondering if you dont mind telling what kind of church community you grew up around which inflicted this trauma?
not all churches are the same. just like not all people are the same. if i was raised by a chinese man and all he did was abuse me it wouldn’t make sense to grow up hating and avoiding chinese people. just something to think abt. you’re trauma is valid.
He’s a bigger man than I am cause going to church is off the table for me. She can go to church all she wants but I’m not going. That’s her identity. Not mine.
@@casualtyofrymes I see it as a lapse in judgement and a fuck up. She very well might regret having premarital sex and could've repented, frankly it's all just the way in perceiving who she is off limited talking, if she regrets having sex premaritally and doesn't want to dig herself deeper with an abortion, then respect, taking accountability for your Sid.
@@lotsclosed19 I agree, she should take all responsibility and not expect him to raise her child. That relationship would never work anyway with the different views of religion. The Bible calls us to be equally yoked and they just aren’t and that’s ok, but she’s pushing him farther away.
Dude run. You gave yourself a way out. She would use the fact he cheated to guilt him into whatever she wants. She has her support system she doesn't need him.
@@Sausagesmomma i don't believe in anything but yall took it way too deep just going to church w her shouldn't be a deal breaker yall will find anything and call it a deal breaker
@@archidias but we don't know what he experienced to form such a response by going to church. he might have been publicly shamed, sexually assaulted or gaslighted into thinking a certain way. whatever it is, religious trauma is a heavy topic and it shouldn't be taken lightly. his trauma is valid and if he disliked going to church then so it be.
The mental gymnastics of pro life Christians is truly mind blowing. She doesn’t want the baby, she’s not ready for the baby, she had plans that were not compatible with the baby. Its really sad to see that she’s not going to live the life she wanted because she made one very manageable mistake
Finally brother someone addressed it she prolly never heard of philosophy nor science the way she talks about the baby and how god planned it makes me want to dig my head under the ground
right apparently it was god's plan for her to fuck some random dude while she was teaching in a foreign country and to not use protection risking pregnancy and disease
Did she ever even say she was pro-life tho? She said she wanted to keep the baby because she “felt like god gave it to her”, but she also said she was considering an abortion at some point. At the end of the day it’s her decision.
They shouldn’t get back together. First, I think he’s lying about the touching and the songs. Second, I think she wants to get back with him because she’s pregnant.
As a man i see 2 aint to great individuals. She cant parabond anymore and has been alpha widowed. The guy cheated... He could feel bad for real but she back... Pregnant with anothers kid who she broke up with and said he wasn't the worst guy... Its all bad, all around. Cause the guy in the box dont 100% want her.
@@jumpstreet2425hes an insecure man, shes a hopeful human.. thinking things will change I mean it's possible but I agree he probably isnt in it to stay...
First of all, I'm so happy with Cut videos getting longer instead of feeling like a trailer for the real thing. Them kissing lay soo heavy in the air for a long time. That handshake reenactment felt like "We gotta do something or I'll explode" but being so close for so long, especially when you already had been intimate, it#s quite the urge to actually physically connect. I feel like he still has some growth to do and make a real decision and stick to it but they seem good together and I wish them all the best. Have fun at the zoo.
He or she? Bruh she thinks god put a baby in her body instead of her own actions and is trying to force a religion onto him like wtf 💀💀💀 she hella needs to grow up. Poor child.
@@heehee5472 Where is she forcing religion on him? If he doesn't want it, he can speak up for himself. Other than that, you only get a part of the whole picture what is all behind this through this video, so how do you know how their future conversations will be and what they will agree or disagree on, and most importantly whether they really gonna decide to get into a serious relationship again. Its really funny to see all the people here commenting and making final assumptions already on how they are as people and what they will decide for. In the end its all speculation, yet you cling very heavily on your speculation and expressing it as some type of truth.
That's the hurting part about this, you can be perfect and everything that person asked for in a partner and then they will still cheat. Nothing will ever be good enough for that person to be committed to a person.
@@Bluemoonjellyfishh Well you don't have to be scared to date, just be really careful about WHO you date. Get to know them first before going serious. That's all.
i mean yeah, but i don't think it has something to do with you. most of the people who cheat are people who are not really mentally healthy and they find cheating like sort of an escape. also many people are polyamorous and they don't even know. ofc it's always hurtful. but you cant take it personally.
Dude ain't it 100%. He already cheated. She cant parabond... She alpha widowed. The father will not be loved of her child. It aint looking good. She back for some good environment/help.
Here's my take on it. She stated how she began falling for him again whenever he became 'reliable' to her, after the Korean guy broke her trust. I think she only wants a relationship with him to have support raising her baby. Obviously, this would be completely immoral - so I think she's using the excuse to herself of rekindling feelings. They may be there, but that's not the main reason why she wants to get back together. I think the dude came mainly for closure, because he's felt guilty for a while. In conclusion, they shouldn't get back together, or continue being 'friends'. This will result in them both remaining delusional and not having solicited time to heal.
I completely 100% agree with this she’s pushing hard she initiated going in a date, she initiated the thought of getting back together, then she initiated the act of kissing again in my opinion she’s trying to seduce him in a round about way where it can’t be recognized by the average viewer
How do you know what the real intentions of this guy was? He clearly had a emotional and physical attraction towards her. They even kissed there. If he would be super uncomfortable with that, wouldn't you think he would build some distance? To me personally it didn't look like that he only wanted to apologize what he did in the past. I mean why would he invite her to this place there to have such a deep conversation just to apologize. You can also hear out from this conversation that they always had been in contact through digital chats. I believe he wanted to find out and explore where they are standing today.
It's very easy to say that a pregnancy is "God's plan" when you're an adult, who had consensual s3x, who has support from friends and family, and can afford to have a child. When one or some or all of those things are different...not so much.
This is honestly one of the best videos I've watched on this channel. I wonder if this is how scientists feel when they study humans. It's so interesting and vulnerable.
with the playlists and the ways he remebers everything lite at close detail, for me it's clear he REALLY wanted the be together again, he trynna act fool so he have a chance lmao
both of them needs to get their priorities together before starting dating. I'm just surprised how she just left the baby daddy back in korea and moved to the us, seemingly cutting him off and not allowing him to be in his child's life, all the while going on and on about religion
Let me just say this, honestly this is probably one of the best and most natural in the box episodes. They seemed like really good and wholesome friends and actually had good chemistry with each other. Now the fact that she calls herself religious, wants him to go to Church every Sunday, yet went out and slept with some guy, getting pregnant, and then TAKING HIS BABY AWAY FROM HIM. Idk the circumstances, maybe he didn’t want the baby or smthn, but if that’s not the case, that’s messed UP. Then you turn to your ex to take care of a random guy’s baby. I mean they both made mistakes but WOW. I feel just horrible for the guy in Korea. Again that’s not knowing the circumstance.
Not letting the man see the baby completely aside, just focusing on the premarital sex. Going against your religion isn't toxic if it's specifically about YOUR relationship with your religion not other people. And sinning isn't contradictory to being religious. Obviously it's bullshit and nothing wrong with premarital sex, but respecting her, specifically the sleeping with someone thing, someone she might've been serious about or really liked, isn't toxic. Some religious person might say it's still wrong, if not toxic, and that's their problem they can go judge someone else though Idk. She doesn't regret her baby.
@@rexrants5786 In this day and age people are slowly more and more hating on Christians in general. So it's no surprise on how many people in the comments are hating on her for believing that her having a child was meant to happen such as God made a plan for her having that kid.
these two genuinely should just be friends, move on from the romantic relationship him. she wants to force him to go to church, forcing her lifestyle each time she brings it up he literally sounds like he could care less. things will get real when the baby is born just wait.
i rewatched this video and i’m literally so disgusted did he almost SA her ?? he lowkey gives me manipulator vibes “it was so easy to be candid” i am very scared for her now actually. these two need to stay FAR away form each other.
@@365partybeau what? Are you talking of when he was rubbing her leg? She said herself that it didn’t feel aggressive or harmful in anyway and he genuinely seems like he just hadn’t realised it was bad, I’m assuming because this was soon after they broke up from dating for years and there was likely a lot of physical contact even before they started dating. He definitely isn’t a manipulator he seems much more like a pushover and seems to be catering towards her feelings. I get vibes that he doesn’t actually want to be with her, but she seems desperate for him to be her child’s father. She just seems irresponsible, like she went to Korea, got pregnant, broke up with the kid’s father, moved back and is now tryna get back with her ex. She also tries to force her religion onto him despite his religious trauma, she also instigated the kiss and the date and she seems to be leading him. She definitely seems more like the manipulator and he seems like he is just trying to be nice.
@@365partybeau im confused, him gently rubbing her leg makes you “disgusted” but her pretty much manipulating him into a date, AND initiating a kiss with him didn’t set off ANYTHING?!
@@sandirr9955 it takes two people to create a baby. You can’t expect men to take responsibility and take the kid away. Same responsibilities also means same rights
@@iwannabeacow6853 right she isn't thinking of the baby and it's future. The kid is gonna grow up and resent her for 1, whitewashing them bc i know damn well she has no knowledge of korean culture, 2. keeping them from their bio dad in korea (we don't know what happened but the fact she said she broke up with him, told him after and they had an argument and then she flew back, its safe to assume he wanted to be a part of the kids life or abort it and she just stole it away to the states). a mess
They just intrinsically disagree. Her: it’s either ALL in or not at all Him: yeah I don’t think the date will be very high stakes !!! That’s not even including the religious importance to her that he does not share . They’re not bad people they’re just not partner compatible imo
so the father wanted to be in the kids life but she said eh I'm gonna go back to America breaks up with him and now looking for someone to raise her kid ? I don't know that seems weird to me
@@gladitsnotme 10:27 it’s insinuated. She told the guy I’m leaving if I’m pregnant and they got in an argument and he called her childish. It was before the test. So who even knows if the guy is aware of the baby at all
well, but it is her being pregnent, not the guy. I wouldn't want to go through pregnancy and childbirth in a foreign country, without support system and (i'm assuming) not knowing the language, that shit is way to scary anyway. The father knew he was having sex with an American woman (assuming again) not intending to spend her whole life in Korea
Such a double standard to expect his compliance when it comes to her religion. She does not consider his boundaries or the trauma they seem to have implied he had experienced in his past. If you want to guarantee someone will support your religion, go find another Christian to date. Don't expect people to change their beliefs and boundaries to cater to your religious needs. I'm not saying people of different religions can't make it work but she is clearly unsatisfied with his contributions and support for her beliefs. Stop pushing your religion on others and respect his beliefs just as you ask him to respect yours. If you can't do that, don't be together.
@@alexare6655 She implied it was a requirement for their relationship to be rekindled. But even if she only preferred it, it is still coercion and a conversion tactic to subject someone to an environment so heavily saturated with pro-Christian views and ideology. Whatever his religion may be, it is clear it does not involve attending church on his own accord. That’s part of his beliefs. If she truly supports those beliefs, there’s no reason he needs to be in that environment, especially if he has trauma.
I don't really understand her viewpoints on religion. She seems to be larping as a Christian rather than actually being one. Doesn't want an abortion, wants to raise her kids Christian, wants to force her spouse to attend church etc. but then sleeps around unmarried? There's nothing wrong with casual sex but at least be consistent, no?
He's leading her on, but she's hopeful :( It seemed like even if there's a tiny slit within the door of the possibility of them getting back together, she's going to keep hoping. She seemed like a smart girl, I hope she finds a better person and love herself first ❤️
When she said that it was All In for the date thing that wasn’t exactly fair to him when he was a little hesitant. He should be allowed some time to think about it like he said there’s a lot of responsibility and pressure that comes with them dating now as to before. But if he really wants to be with her then he’ll stand up to those responsibilities ❤ good video
Yeah, she annoys me. No cap. The guy is already gonna have to take responsibility for another man's kid. Now he has to go to church every week, despite having traumatic experiences with being forced to do that? He dodged a big bullet. She needs to be single for a while. See what god has in store for her as a single mother.
I really hope you are 12, because if you're saying this as an adult I feel sorry for your understanding of the world we live in. You need a huuge reality check.
@@mantaraylove reality to what? Your biased perspective on the world? As far as I could see this seems like a bad idea, with red flags already in the beginning of this video. And I’m just acknowledging that. The fact that your ignoring everything I just said, the details and explanation I gave. And in return your giving a vague, general statement of how “I don’t understand the world”, with no added information given. Your not refuting my point, your not even giving a different perspective, your just using an ad hominem and an empty statement with no backing. And your calling me a child? You sound ridiculous because even a high schooler could communicate their thought, beliefs or opinions better than this. Show your age, because I can tell you this right. Age does not define maturity, intellect, judgement or how correct your are. And your a perfect example of that. And obviously I’m not a kid, I just don’t have the privilege of being able to overlook certain things the way you do. And you may think I sound ignorant, but reading the comment that you posted, I can guarantee you that the feeling toward you is mutual. Please give me a reality check, I need to learn from you. Cause clearly you’ve got it all figured out.
this was enjoyable to watch. these two people had a BIG history and this experiment kind of "forcing" them in this box made their past resurface and was definitely what they needed to heal. i hope they always are friends no matter what happens.
gimme two people who have been in a long term situationship. Now THATS where the tea is
I had the same thought. I would love to sit in a box with my situationship for 12 hours. And try to get them to be honest for 5 of those seconds.
What is a situationship?
@@doms.6701 a non official relationship i think
This 😂
@Snow Rabbit fr 😂
“How are those quesadillas” moment like a waiter coming to the table deliberately interrupting a SUPER heavy discussion
Or mid chewing a whole mouth full of food
Lol right
Dude omg exactly
love the twenty one pilots pfp
So I work in a restaurant and man it happened like 5 times today 🥴 I felt mad uncomfortable lol
I have never felt so involved in the lifes of two strangers on the internet (and the pregnancy story was such a plottwist!?). I absolutely need a follow-up on these two!!
Did you ever find a follow up because I am fully invested now as well lol
@@melissaatwood6172 hahah no I dont think I did but I havent searched recently- if you find one let me know! Thanks for bringing me back to this video hahah
@@melissaatwood6172 I am invested too lol.
lmao same@@melissaatwood6172
@@melissaatwood6172frrrr
I want to see a longtime married couple in this box
lmfaoaoa
Susan you are not decorating that corner we are here to talk and interact, Susan, stop, no no no
Bit evil
ohh that would be so good
@C0rpseClown 😭😭😭😭
Somewhere there's a Korean guy sitting in a box, talking to someone about the girl that ran off with his baby.
Ikr 😪😪
This deserves to be the top comment 😂
So this is where they found the little asian baby from the show Shameless....from this chick
@@eatermckinnon4644 lmaooooo
no cos REALLY wtf
i feel personally that they are better friends and should work on their friendship.
Me too
As a compromise, she could ask him to go to church with her and the kid on holidays. But asking a non-religious person to go to church every week is too much.
What bugged me was that she was like "it's MY identity."
Yeah bitch, that's the point; it's not HIS identity. Boundaries.
@@DA-js7xz exactly!! She’s literally saying I can’t change but I expect you to…
Still too much. If you don’t believe in it you shouldn’t be asked to go at all. She’s so pushy
I believe that your suggestion would have been a fair compromise.
@@Mila76778 I agree
the religious difference is never gonna stop being a problem if she makes him go to church with her. either he’s going to have to spend an hour or two lying every week or he’s going to come into regular conflict with others who aren’t as tolerant of him not believing as she is. the only way the difference could really be settled is them both actually respecting each other’s approach to faith: him being okay with her attending, and her being okay with him not attending.
This is so right, like he already isn't disagreeing with her faith and if that was me I'd be constantly debating that faith with her because I don't agree with it. He's already so supportive of her faith and she should give that to him in return.
It's so interesting that she would prefer a Christian man, when she herself doesn't live a Christian lifestyle (e.g. having sex before marriage, kissing lots of guys in one night). It shouldn't come as a surprise to her that the men she attracts are non-Christian men given that the life she lives doesn't reflect that of a Christian's.
I know of couple where the wife is a regular church attender, I think probably has been most of her life, and the husband wants nothing to do with it. I don't believe I've even ever met him because I only know her through church. However, they make it work somehow. Certainly not ideal, but props to her for being so strong in her faith yet so loving towards her husband.
I agree. I can see it as a thing you want your partner to see, your hobbies, or in this case something more to her, but it doesn't mean he has to come to all of them as hes not religious in my eyes. I thought he didn't like that idea but swallowed it to compromise to be with her. Then again not my relationship.
Your right, but she did say that it was more of a supportive gesture rather than him actually believing. In my case, my dad is an atheist while my mother and i are christian, we dont expect him to change his beliefs, but we do find it sweet and thoughtful when he agrees to go to church with us, not because it makes us think maybe he will convert, its because it makes us feel loved and greatfull that he cares enough *for us* to join us in this thing he may not agree with.
i have done some extensive research and they are in fact not together. youre welcome to whoever is watching.
Dam
Thanks for the info
| know this guy, he works at a summer camp and is dating my sectional instructor at tysa emf session two
You can tell he feels pressured to cater to her feelings, he never said when he was alone he wanted to rekindle things. Only she did.
that could be editing or they just didnt ask him though.
@@zazuch They asked a few different ways, his responses are not all edited either. But its just my perspective
For help with the baby
He also uses the phrases were so he's just wanting to clear the air
I think they share the full 12 hrs on their website
"we were friends for a longgggg time" "we were friends for a few months" 💀
This. He's not into her like that and we could tell. She's holding onto something that's not there anymore. Friendship yes but I don't think he could give her what she wants in a partner. She's definitely hopeful for more.
She tryna have a bunch of kids who are international lmao 🤣
🤣
@@illestgyal She's holding on to finding a baby daddy lmao
Guys who are highly dramatic and emotional are very hard to date long term. They are a lot of fun at first, but the longer the relationship runs, the more difficult it becomes. I have a feeling they will do great... for a while... then the reality of his impulsivity and her having a baby will shut things down... not to mention compulsive weekly church attendance.
UPDATE: I did some sleuthing cause I was bored.
They don't seem to be together or publicly talkin, but they both seem well from their small internet presence, and her baby is cute.
Saved you all the time and the shame.
What’s her social media ?
We need you to find the guy in Korea.
yeah, sorry to say that but If I am with a girl I want his babies to be mine.
| know this guy, he works at a summer camp and is dating my sectional instructor at tysa emf session two
I'm curious to know her social media too 🥲
Religion is deal breaker and you cannot force someone or guilt them into going. She needs to focus on healing and becoming a new mom. They seem like the type to be good friends that keep in touch.
She specifically said that she would want him going to church every week as support but that he doesn’t need to believe but I personally would not want to go 💀
Yeah hope they could work it out but I couldn’t. Im not going to church once a week for anyone
Religion is not a deal breaker but expecting the other half to fully support it or go to church with you is… my partner of 10 years is religious and I am not, we are super strong together and he doesn’t push his belief onto me. I will never go to a church again after my bad experience and he is fine with that.
thats why christians should be with christians so then no one is "forced" to go to church or pressured to stay at home
It's so interesting that she would prefer a Christian man, when she herself doesn't live a Christian lifestyle (e.g. having sex before marriage, kissing lots of guys in one night). It shouldn't come as a surprise to her that the men she attracts are non-Christian men given that the life she lives doesn't reflect that of a Christian's.
Need more of these. I think a good one would be Trapped in a Box with siblings. Lol
Lol great idea
not sure murder is approved on youtube
@@Naturalhighz I was just going to say the cleanup on that would be pretty extensive.
Or a Bear?
@@draedon_ okay
I wish both of them so much self awareness, healing & therapy.
Also…good luck kid. 😩
I understand that she would like to have him at the Church. But no is no
Christianity is the only truth
@@victorino7113 believe what you want. But pushing your believe on someone is wrong.
@@faysmit4799 no it’s not it’s human nature everyone pushes their believe on everyone. Like the belief of the current agendas that are pushed so hard on us in society and we now accept them as “normal”
@@victorino7113 stay in your close minded bubble.
Have a nice day!
@@faysmit4799 ironic cause I’m 18 and always debate so you can say I’m pretty open minded but sure if you say so. I’m probrably “close minded “ because no one can disprove me with statements 🤷🏽♂️
How is she trying to force him to go to church. But gets pregnant without marriage and runs away. That messed up.
@@iwannabeacow6853 right! I hope the baby gets to know the father somehow
That's Cherry-Picking. Welcome to 2022 ...
👀 fax
Its not your life.
typical religous people
Bro y'all are saying she's a red flag when he cheated on her and then touched her inappropriately while she was asleep and then sent her romantic mixtapes while she was in Korea
Yes that wasn't right and he didn't really seem proper to take advantage of someone like that! It made me really angry that he took advantage of that moment and only brought it up when it came topic. He didn't even register it and that's scary!!!!
I would expect nothing less from someone who says "I want to raise my children Christian"
@@kerrin6633Agreed. But he did register it. He literally talked about the whole thing and apologized for it.
🙄@@Pogueconductor
@@kzeetha Roll your eyes all you want. Christian trama is a real thing. If you want to see who is fighting to KEEP child brides look no further. Talk about child grooming
Her trying to guilt him into going to church when he isn't religious is a big yikes from me. I'm an atheist myself any kind of pressure like that is an immediate dealbreaker. You can support your partner's religion by allowing them to practice and go to church. Her insistence on him going to church shows she has no respect for his beliefs.
she said so many times that she isn’t pressuring him, AND she literally acknowledged that he had religious trauma. wanting your partner to support you in your religion and POSSIBLY come to faith isn’t pushing religion onto them. especially when you want your child to be raised in that religion. y’all always think speaking of wanting someone to be part of your faith is disrespectful, but it’s not. it’s our identity, and yes it is a deal breaker for people, because that’s what our entire life is based upon!
@@amw2005 she stated it would be very important for him to go to church every week to “support her religion.” Why can’t she respect his beliefs and go without him? He’s respecting her religion by not having an issue with her attending and practicing but she doesn’t respect his beliefs
If he had an issue with it he would of said that, go cry about not being religious somewhere else and mind your business 😂
@@BCl137 girl what 💀💀
@@amw2005 maybe he also wanted her to come to non faith, is it equally fair ? ;)
All I gotta say is this is a huge train wreck waiting to happen. They may seem all lovey dovey “oh let’s get back together, we’ll give it another try” for the sake of the video, but once reality settles in, stuff is gonna get real, especially since she’s pregnant with someone else’s baby and she’s trying to make him go to church with her. He’s gonna back out once reality hits.
He's going to and then she's going to blame it on him
Once he realizes he doesn’t want to be a cuck and raise a Korean baby he will cheat on her again. Can’t blame the Korean for knocking her up though, she was probably cute before this happened
yup
I can not get over her continuous insistence that he go to church EVERY WEEK.
This whole conversation felt like she was asking permission to settle; and that he was unsure if he should say yes because of the history and feelings she invoked in him, or if he should stay true to himself and say no but then potentially lose a friend and a relationship that he didn't want to lose. It was a soft kind of painful, and there were many more half truths than there was a coming together and healing or growth.
best comment in here
I think because of his past act of cheating to her, I believe he didn't feel like in a place to make the first step into asking getting together again. He could only apologize and look out for the responds she would give towards him. Other than that he showed affection towards her as well and didn't express any emotional or physical distance towards her. So, I don't really think it was only a one-sided need for that reason. I mean he proposed her to meet there and have this conversation and you can also hear out of their conversation that they had been in contact all the time through digital chats.
I absolutely agree! The body language was directly opposing their words and there was so much uncomfortable tension.
ye she knows no one will want to be in a relation once she become a single mother
I feel bad for the Korean guy who she broke up with and told that she was going to America. I hope he has the option to at least visit occasionally or FaceTime her and his baby. It must be hard to be told you got a girl pregnant and forever knowing that you have a child somewhere in the world without being able to actually be a parent like how you envisioned to be. Hope he got the option to be involved even from afar.
He called her childish and he wasn't responsible enough to ensure she was on contraception or to use a condom or to get Plan B (granted, apparently in Korea the process of getting the morning after pill is a bit more involved because their society has not yet decided if it counts as abortion or not) the morning after even when she had the feeling that night that she might be in the process of conceiving. His situation is still pretty rough but I can't bring myself to feel that much sympathy for him.
@@ShaunCheah u don’t know the full conversation leading up to him calling her childish. Her breaking up with him before even confirming that she’s pregnant then choosing to more to away with his baby knowing he has no say in it is childish. If he’s irresponsible then so is she but even with all the precautions it’s still fully possible to get pregnant
@@ShaunCheah Funny how you're solely blaming him for her getting pregnant. If they didn't want to get pregnant then having sex without any contraception was both of their faults. He didn't wear a condom. She allowed him to enter her without a condom. She wasn't on birth control. She didn't take the morning after pill. She decided against abortion.
@@janaeivory7914 If my girl broke up with me...then a few weeks later told me she's pregnant and she's going to move to a different country 10,000 miles away and I'd probably never get the opportunity to raise my own kid...I think "childish" would be the nicest of all the things I would call her.
@@tommyjones6866 CNUT? Lol
It seems like he grew a lot since they dated, and she didnt. I would wish them to be friends. They seem good for each other, but there might be too many differences in what they want. I appreciated that they were both honest.
| know this guy, he works at a summer camp and is dating my sectional instructor at tysa emf session two
Yup 👍 I feel the same.
I do not think they will ever work. If he is not into religion, he should not be forced to go to church or participate in it. He does not care what her religion is, why can't she do the same?
Well she didn't force him to go ...she just said she would like him to go lmfaoo y'all reaching
@@maddiemaryanne426 "raise my kids christian" is forcing religion tho
@@maddiemaryanne426 She didn't force him, but he would have to force himself to go, to stay with her. And as for the reason why she cant care about his religion the way he does. Is because she is religious, and he is not. People have different values. Its very egocentric to ask why people cannot be like you.
@@kelvinopara7297 um they broke up because he cheated .they literally dated for along time with her knowing he's not religious so you're literally making no fucking sense 😅
@@Lilian040210 I mean I do agree on that I'm atheist an don't think we should make our kids be just like us because it's our religion.but that's a sticky situation because obviously she wants the best for her children an she wants to share her faith with them so idk
I like how candid these people were being filmed. I truly feel they were being themselves.
I know people are complicated and do things for their own reasons, and while I don’t really understand or agree with Tauvias life choices, I do appreciate that she is forthright about her expectations of Alfonso. If he knows that weekly church attendance and raising someone else’s kid is part of the package, and he wants to involve himself, I wish them the best, truly.
I like the host. The person makes guests question their choices immediately after they have made it.
Why did you write this comment?
@@CrnogorskiNacionalista y not
The idea that getting accidentally pregnant is God's choice and you therefore can't do anything about that, and have no control over your life, is such a dangerous mindset.
Some would argue that using abortion as the solution to maintaining control of your life is a dangerous mindset.
@@87enoughBULL yeah idiots for example 😂 don’t let anyone control your body religion is so creepy
lol nah. 2 weeks ago, I found out I'm going to be a dad. It wasn't planned, not for a year or two at least. If you don't want kids, wear protection. If you don't, it's your responsibility and consequences, and not your right to take away a life you accidentally created lolol
@@roybaartscheer8872 Protection fails... Accidents happen.... Crimes happen.... And it is not alive yet. It is a clump of cells.
That’s just her outlook on life. I like to think everything happens for a reason. She chose the path that she thought would be best for her, there was nothing wrong with that.
This is the best one I've seen so far. The connection makes the 12h so much better and so much less awkward. Whether it be with a married couple, family members, active couple, divorced, etc., the connection adds so much.
Girl go find a Christian and let him live
facts 😭😭
He still like her tho
@@victorino7113 it's actually the other way around
ikr💀 I wouldn't go to church WEEKLY cuz my partner believes in god
@@hdbevewhvebd4707 My dude I have spent more than twenty-eight of the thirty years of my life so far single and at this point I would be in the pews four hours a day six days a week if it meant I'd have someone who cared about me with whom I could spend the rest of my life.
The comments here disgust me. This woman got pregnant with a guy's baby from Korea, broke up with him the day after, moved thousands of kilometres away from the father, and suddenly is trying to make her ex become the new father; but he's the one "leading her on"? It doesn't excuse his cheating but come on, people.
FACTS
Exactly and the way she told him he’d have to go to church if he was with her while he has trauma makes me so uncomfy
Exactly
they are both trash. He plays the soft-spoken sensitive guy yet touches her without consent, she does the things you mentioned. Its crazy how toxic couple are.
Right I’m like 😮
Seeing a girl makeout with the whole party then making her your girl is crazy work 🤣🤣
It aint like she fucked them all, do you really get insecure at spin the bottle? Like, man. She wasn't his girl and probably HAS fucked people before him, not a virgin either, like he's not any worse off than any of the other people (girls included) she kissed, like she kissed a bunch of people, and then started dating and having sex exclusively with one of them.
"oh no my girlie kissed another little boy before me!" - said my goddamn little brother prolly.
I think she's still in love with him and deep down inside wishes he was the father of her child. In my opinion, he should distance himself from her so she has time to heal. Based on what she said it seems like he doesn't know what he wants and is still leading her along - giving her hope that they could rekindle their relationship. Really wish her the best with her child and hope that she can find someone who isn't going to play around with her feelings.
This!
Sorry but as someone who had a very similar situation to this guy , the guilt is what makes us seem "Not knowing" or leading people is not it. It's the now dreading feeling of failing someone you now see as perfect that fucks you up mentally cause you once did fuck up with them and caused them trouble. The guilt and self-work you need to do on yourself to better your wrongs is insanely draining. I find it very stuck up from you to judge him like this because obviously he has a big decision to make and he doesn't (I wouldn't ) feel worthy of her after what he has done, it's as simple as that. Not everyone stays evil and plays with people for fun, some are in bad head spaces , make mistakes and try to learn and live by them.
@@frostwindsgaming8645 damn, this too! Thanks for writing this!
WoW! Both of these POVs are on point. Damn
Yea I am 6 mins in and I can see she wants to be with him still. I get the sense that he doesn't know what he wants but he knows for sure that she is safe. If its intentional he is wrong for doing it. If not they definitely both need to seek help apart. My ex is this way. When he gets lonely or bored of whomever he is with he always texts me like we are still together. I don't encourage it becuase he hurt me big time and while I know I still love him. I am at peace loving him from afar. Hope it positively works out for the both of them.
Trapped is so good. Y’all need to make more
Lmao trapped
If my ex got pregnant with another man and wanted to get back with me, I'd laugh and then walk out to get a quesadilla and a beer, because I can
Great comment had me chuckling haha
Nah, he called her, that's the difference. And he broke it off with her after cheating (though she prolly would've, not implying like she wanted to stay together.) So it's not like she went after him cause she wanted him for the money, and neither of them expected to end up together. These are real people, not one of those "nerd gets rejected by prom queen, 10 years later pregnant prom queen begs nerd for a ride in his corvette" memes.
okay mate
I don’t like that he cheated on her, but I also don’t like the way she got pregnant by someone else and is now hoping he’ll be there for her and her child. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. They would make great friends and he’d be a great uncle to her child - but I don’t see this relationship lasting if it went back to being one.
How is the second one a wrong though? They weren't together so it's not like she cheated. If he doesn't want that responsibility he should've said no... I agree though that it seemed a bit like she guilted him because of his cheating...
@@tobene more so the Korean guy than him. She kinda fucked that guy over tbh which isn’t great either. He might not ever see his child.
I need a whole video about meeting the Korean guy and the aftermath of her leaving to America. I really hope they compromise so they can both be there for the kid, cause that would suck if the guy couldn’t interact or be there for their child.
You know nothing. The korean dude might not even want the kid.
@@alexare6655 hence why I said “I need a whole video”
@@YHoll "that would suck if the guy couldn't interact or be there for their child"- that implies he *wants* to. Maybe he doesn't.
@@alexare6655 which is why I wrote “If” 😂 it’s not that deep.
@@YHoll your reading comprehension needs work but cheers.
Shes pregnant, moved to a different country than her babys father, and is making out with her ex. Greeeaaaat gal.
"How are those quesadillas?" My new way of breaking out of a awkward conversation
she’s pregnant …. with another man’s child and trying to get back with her ex ? i’m so confused
From another country too while strongly religious 💀 I’m v confused
I’m confused too… because they don’t have plan B in Korea?!
and not just any ex but an ex who cheated on her too... i thinking childish is definitely the right word for her...
😊😊😊
and then she says she isnt looking for someone to support her... how ironic!
I give them props, it would take a lot of money for me to get in a box for 12 hours with my ex
the fact that she wants him to go to the church every week because it's her identity is so toxic. like girl. it's your identity not his. especially with his religious trauma, she shouldn't be so pushy about it. it's like he has to accept the fact that she is religious but she can't accept that he's not. no fucking way. also, you can totally be the one who's in charge of your life even if you believe in god. obviously it's her religion and her choice so as long it's really what she wants then it's fine, just don't push it on other people.
ikr. And why cant she find a man at church? Thats sus
@@bevs9995 because most traditional christian men wont want a whore wife whos currently pregnant with another man's child
For real. She’s bringing a whole ass LIFE into this world when she doesn’t want to be pregnant just because of her toxic beliefs. That’s insane.
As an atheist, I would never go to church on a weekly basis for anyone. That would be a betrayal to myself. Even if it was framed as "support" that's completely disrespectful to me and my beliefs.
I’m Christian. However I completely agree with this
Especially because it’s not support. Her trying to frame it that way is SO fucking manipulative.
Yeah the only reason I went to church with my mom was because despite not being religious I wasn't an atheist. And even when I followed my mom to church and prayed with her I was never actively pushed to become religious. There were some who tried and my mom actually shielded me from them because she knew I disliked propagating. You gotta respect the boundaries man.
@@sapphicalix it definitely can be support. but it depends on how BOTH partners see it. if he sees it as a betrayal to his own beliefs then it is unsupportive for her to demand he come with her. honestly it just seems like they have some very conflicting integral ideas
Same. I wouldn't go weekly but maybe once every 3 months (staying outside probably) or to hang out with my partner's religious friends and know them a bit would be ok, but I'm not really all that for pretending to be like I do believe lol, especially if I have traumas or bad experiences like its implied he did.
Most likely, if people at the church found out he was an atheist they would either try to push him into religion more and more, or trash talk him on his back about how disrespectful it is to come to church without being a believer lol.
Had an aunt who forced her fiance to accompany her to church, and part of the reason of why they broke up was that the church friends talked trash about the atheist fiance to my aunt every single day, and made her feel like it was disrespectful to god to be with an atheist, and if she did she was worth less as a person
That chick really just left that babies dad in Korea. Also if you were so "scared" of getting pregnant why wouldn't you do anything to protect yourself from getting pregnant.
Sorry but nobody just makes a playlist for someone and doesn’t mean to send a message thru it unless it’s like “oh this is my own fav playlist, you should listen” lmao
The whole “I’m having the baby because god told me to” is just… idk
If you don’t know that’s OK. But some of us do. So if you know, you know and if you don’t, you don’t.
@@savageunitato100 oh i know i just don’t agree with it but to each it’s own
@@savageunitato100 God told me to tell you stop blaming him for your trash decisions.
I do know. It's dumb as fuck.
@@savageunitato100 god told her to do biggest sin?
Ive never been this emotionally attached to random couples relationship💀
The kiss made me self implode
For the church issue I feel like that's going to be a really hard thing to get by, because I know that me personally I have a lot of religious trauma so going into a church would only bring back those negative emotions even if I was going just to support someone if I had to go weekly it would definitely deteriorate my mental health. I don't know their specific situation judging by what they said based on his dad and how pushy he was with religion on him, that's going to be a serious conversation that they need to have.
im sorry to hear about your religious trauma, ive seen this same issue with a lot of people, im wondering if you dont mind telling what kind of church community you grew up around which inflicted this trauma?
not all churches are the same. just like not all people are the same. if i was raised by a chinese man and all he did was abuse me it wouldn’t make sense to grow up hating and avoiding chinese people. just something to think abt. you’re trauma is valid.
@@merciful9695 false equivalent, not the same at all. The basis of 90% of Christian churches is the same- the bible. That's the problem.
He’s a bigger man than I am cause going to church is off the table for me. She can go to church all she wants but I’m not going. That’s her identity. Not mine.
@@iamhere1523 the basis of like, 10% of churches is the Bible. 90% is the doctrine of the denomination and personal preferences of the pastor.
So she doesn't want to have a abortion because she prayed on it. Makes sense, but then the premarital sex?
Seriously
Way more people think premarital sex is ok than an abortion is ok…
She shouldn’t have had premarital sex as a Christian but why would you make it worse by terminating the pregnancy? (From a Christian stand point.)
@@casualtyofrymes I see it as a lapse in judgement and a fuck up. She very well might regret having premarital sex and could've repented, frankly it's all just the way in perceiving who she is off limited talking, if she regrets having sex premaritally and doesn't want to dig herself deeper with an abortion, then respect, taking accountability for your Sid.
@@lotsclosed19 I agree, she should take all responsibility and not expect him to raise her child. That relationship would never work anyway with the different views of religion. The Bible calls us to be equally yoked and they just aren’t and that’s ok, but she’s pushing him farther away.
Dude run. You gave yourself a way out. She would use the fact he cheated to guilt him into whatever she wants. She has her support system she doesn't need him.
It ain't about need. Nor do you know them enough to say she'd definitely do that, we don't know maybe she would maybe not.
They both manipulated tf out of each other 💀💀💀
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Ugh I don’t really feel bad for either of them. They’re both manipulative.
How is she manipulative? I can see him being manipulative but i didn’t really see it from her. She seemed more desperate.
The fact that she tried to guilt him into going to church with her. That’s manipulation. Both sides need to respect each other’s boundaries.
@@rowena0723 yes exactly. She is forcing her religion on him and making him promise to attend church. He’s not perfect either.
@@Sausagesmomma i don't believe in anything but yall took it way too deep just going to church w her shouldn't be a deal breaker yall will find anything and call it a deal breaker
@@archidias but we don't know what he experienced to form such a response by going to church. he might have been publicly shamed, sexually assaulted or gaslighted into thinking a certain way. whatever it is, religious trauma is a heavy topic and it shouldn't be taken lightly. his trauma is valid and if he disliked going to church then so it be.
It's really interesting to watch a story of something I previously knew nothing about. I got emotionally invested.
him touching her while she was sleeping is so sketchy
The box idea is a good series, definitely need more of those, both exes, dating, engaged, married, couples, siblings. 😁
Dude... RUN. RUN as fast as you can!
The mental gymnastics of pro life Christians is truly mind blowing. She doesn’t want the baby, she’s not ready for the baby, she had plans that were not compatible with the baby. Its really sad to see that she’s not going to live the life she wanted because she made one very manageable mistake
Finally brother someone addressed it she prolly never heard of philosophy nor science the way she talks about the baby and how god planned it makes me want to dig my head under the ground
that's why i stopped watching... i cannot stand this way of thinking and how many lives can ruin
right?? its like saying its God's plan for someone to have chalmadiya and reject the medicine
right apparently it was god's plan for her to fuck some random dude while she was teaching in a foreign country and to not use protection risking pregnancy and disease
Did she ever even say she was pro-life tho? She said she wanted to keep the baby because she “felt like god gave it to her”, but she also said she was considering an abortion at some point. At the end of the day it’s her decision.
He was lowkey forced into the date thing. Clearly didn’t want to
They shouldn’t get back together. First, I think he’s lying about the touching and the songs.
Second, I think she wants to get back with him because she’s pregnant.
The most powerful thing my fav youtuber Shan Boodram said was "if he was everything I needed than we would still be together"
Love her
As a man i see 2 aint to great individuals. She cant parabond anymore and has been alpha widowed. The guy cheated... He could feel bad for real but she back... Pregnant with anothers kid who she broke up with and said he wasn't the worst guy... Its all bad, all around. Cause the guy in the box dont 100% want her.
@@jumpstreet2425they're both wrong they're both right... doesnt matter lol.
@@jumpstreet2425hes an insecure man, shes a hopeful human.. thinking things will change I mean it's possible but I agree he probably isnt in it to stay...
One of my favourite youtubers.
First of all, I'm so happy with Cut videos getting longer instead of feeling like a trailer for the real thing.
Them kissing lay soo heavy in the air for a long time. That handshake reenactment felt like "We gotta do something or I'll explode" but being so close for so long, especially when you already had been intimate, it#s quite the urge to actually physically connect.
I feel like he still has some growth to do and make a real decision and stick to it but they seem good together and I wish them all the best. Have fun at the zoo.
He or she? Bruh she thinks god put a baby in her body instead of her own actions and is trying to force a religion onto him like wtf 💀💀💀 she hella needs to grow up. Poor child.
@@heehee5472 She doesn't need to make decisions, because GOD decides for her.
@@heehee5472 Where is she forcing religion on him? If he doesn't want it, he can speak up for himself. Other than that, you only get a part of the whole picture what is all behind this through this video, so how do you know how their future conversations will be and what they will agree or disagree on, and most importantly whether they really gonna decide to get into a serious relationship again. Its really funny to see all the people here commenting and making final assumptions already on how they are as people and what they will decide for. In the end its all speculation, yet you cling very heavily on your speculation and expressing it as some type of truth.
These two do NOT seem like a lasting match to me. Friends yes. But she seemed driven by an agenda and he just wanted to apologize and move on.
That's the hurting part about this, you can be perfect and everything that person asked for in a partner and then they will still cheat. Nothing will ever be good enough for that person to be committed to a person.
Yup…
Scared to date now because of it
@@Bluemoonjellyfishh this sht cringe af
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Well you don't have to be scared to date, just be really careful about WHO you date. Get to know them first before going serious. That's all.
i mean yeah, but i don't think it has something to do with you. most of the people who cheat are people who are not really mentally healthy and they find cheating like sort of an escape. also many people are polyamorous and they don't even know. ofc it's always hurtful. but you cant take it personally.
He knows that she’s lost in the sauce, and he’s gonna let her drown in it🥴
100%
Dude ain't it 100%. He already cheated. She cant parabond... She alpha widowed. The father will not be loved of her child. It aint looking good. She back for some good environment/help.
Wtf does this even mean what sauce lmao.
Here's my take on it. She stated how she began falling for him again whenever he became 'reliable' to her, after the Korean guy broke her trust. I think she only wants a relationship with him to have support raising her baby. Obviously, this would be completely immoral - so I think she's using the excuse to herself of rekindling feelings. They may be there, but that's not the main reason why she wants to get back together. I think the dude came mainly for closure, because he's felt guilty for a while. In conclusion, they shouldn't get back together, or continue being 'friends'. This will result in them both remaining delusional and not having solicited time to heal.
I completely 100% agree with this she’s pushing hard she initiated going in a date, she initiated the thought of getting back together, then she initiated the act of kissing again in my opinion she’s trying to seduce him in a round about way where it can’t be recognized by the average viewer
@@aunknownspecies4153 that wasn’t round about that was blatant lol
How do you know what the real intentions of this guy was? He clearly had a emotional and physical attraction towards her. They even kissed there. If he would be super uncomfortable with that, wouldn't you think he would build some distance? To me personally it didn't look like that he only wanted to apologize what he did in the past. I mean why would he invite her to this place there to have such a deep conversation just to apologize. You can also hear out from this conversation that they always had been in contact through digital chats. I believe he wanted to find out and explore where they are standing today.
Absolutely !!
It's very easy to say that a pregnancy is "God's plan" when you're an adult, who had consensual s3x, who has support from friends and family, and can afford to have a child. When one or some or all of those things are different...not so much.
“Very” hmmm
Imagine telling a victim pregnant child it's god's plan. BRUH
Its just her personal experience and beliefs on it, stop making it a bigger deal than it is 🙄
Ironically…..preach
19:21 perfectly encapsulates the whole video.
This is honestly one of the best videos I've watched on this channel. I wonder if this is how scientists feel when they study humans. It's so interesting and vulnerable.
We need more of these! and the blind date ones too!
with the playlists and the ways he remebers everything lite at close detail, for me it's clear he REALLY wanted the be together again, he trynna act fool so he have a chance lmao
Wow. This dynamic is wild. I would love to see more. They have alottttt to go through
both of them needs to get their priorities together before starting dating.
I'm just surprised how she just left the baby daddy back in korea and moved to the us, seemingly cutting him off and not allowing him to be in his child's life, all the while going on and on about religion
Yesss right! You would think because of her religion she wouldn’t be so hypocritical
Let me just say this, honestly this is probably one of the best and most natural in the box episodes. They seemed like really good and wholesome friends and actually had good chemistry with each other. Now the fact that she calls herself religious, wants him to go to Church every Sunday, yet went out and slept with some guy, getting pregnant, and then TAKING HIS BABY AWAY FROM HIM. Idk the circumstances, maybe he didn’t want the baby or smthn, but if that’s not the case, that’s messed UP. Then you turn to your ex to take care of a random guy’s baby. I mean they both made mistakes but WOW. I feel just horrible for the guy in Korea. Again that’s not knowing the circumstance.
He reached out to her.
RIGHT! For someone with such strong religious convictions, she sure ignored what her own religion prescribed...
@@leahgal9387 Source?
Not letting the man see the baby completely aside, just focusing on the premarital sex. Going against your religion isn't toxic if it's specifically about YOUR relationship with your religion not other people. And sinning isn't contradictory to being religious. Obviously it's bullshit and nothing wrong with premarital sex, but respecting her, specifically the sleeping with someone thing, someone she might've been serious about or really liked, isn't toxic. Some religious person might say it's still wrong, if not toxic, and that's their problem they can go judge someone else though Idk. She doesn't regret her baby.
When she said she believed god intended for her to get a kid I was done.
Just her mindset on life. I myself am not religious, but many people are and that’s ok.
I’m saying…
@@blee2fast656 aren't you not supposed to be fucking or having kids without being married?
whats wrong with her saying that?
@@rexrants5786 In this day and age people are slowly more and more hating on Christians in general. So it's no surprise on how many people in the comments are hating on her for believing that her having a child was meant to happen such as God made a plan for her having that kid.
“having a step daddy that’s a pro for you” RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN
these two genuinely should just be friends, move on from the romantic relationship him. she wants to force him to go to church, forcing her lifestyle each time she brings it up he literally sounds like he could care less. things will get real when the baby is born just wait.
i rewatched this video and i’m literally so disgusted did he almost SA her ?? he lowkey gives me manipulator vibes “it was so easy to be candid” i am very scared for her now actually. these two need to stay FAR away form each other.
@@365partybeau what? Are you talking of when he was rubbing her leg? She said herself that it didn’t feel aggressive or harmful in anyway and he genuinely seems like he just hadn’t realised it was bad, I’m assuming because this was soon after they broke up from dating for years and there was likely a lot of physical contact even before they started dating. He definitely isn’t a manipulator he seems much more like a pushover and seems to be catering towards her feelings. I get vibes that he doesn’t actually want to be with her, but she seems desperate for him to be her child’s father. She just seems irresponsible, like she went to Korea, got pregnant, broke up with the kid’s father, moved back and is now tryna get back with her ex. She also tries to force her religion onto him despite his religious trauma, she also instigated the kiss and the date and she seems to be leading him. She definitely seems more like the manipulator and he seems like he is just trying to be nice.
@@365partybeau im confused, him gently rubbing her leg makes you “disgusted” but her pretty much manipulating him into a date, AND initiating a kiss with him didn’t set off ANYTHING?!
They dont need to be trapped in a box together, they both need therapy. Separately.
No way she ran off with that man’s baby lmao
tf? it's still in her belly tho
@@sandirr9955 it takes two people to create a baby. You can’t expect men to take responsibility and take the kid away. Same responsibilities also means same rights
Imagine completely changing your life 180 degrees just because you think your life is lead by a heavenly deity...
@@iwannabeacow6853 right she isn't thinking of the baby and it's future. The kid is gonna grow up and resent her for 1, whitewashing them bc i know damn well she has no knowledge of korean culture, 2. keeping them from their bio dad in korea (we don't know what happened but the fact she said she broke up with him, told him after and they had an argument and then she flew back, its safe to assume he wanted to be a part of the kids life or abort it and she just stole it away to the states). a mess
I LOVE his voice
They are so cute. Starting a new relationship probably won't work with the religious part and other external factors but a true friendship I can see.
He seems like he has a fear of commitment to me but they both seem like good humans who deserve to be happy
any guy that uses his brain would stay far away from that, so yes obviously
HIS LAUGH IS EXACTLY LIKE JULIEN’S
IT ISSS
They just intrinsically disagree.
Her: it’s either ALL in or not at all
Him: yeah I don’t think the date will be very high stakes
!!! That’s not even including the religious importance to her that he does not share . They’re not bad people they’re just not partner compatible imo
so the father wanted to be in the kids life but she said eh I'm gonna go back to America breaks up with him and now looking for someone to raise her kid ? I don't know that seems weird to me
This went over a lot of peoples’ head. She is not a good person.
Timestamp? Where did she say the father said that? I missed it
@@gladitsnotme 10:27 it’s insinuated. She told the guy I’m leaving if I’m pregnant and they got in an argument and he called her childish. It was before the test. So who even knows if the guy is aware of the baby at all
well, but it is her being pregnent, not the guy. I wouldn't want to go through pregnancy and childbirth in a foreign country, without support system and (i'm assuming) not knowing the language, that shit is way to scary anyway. The father knew he was having sex with an American woman (assuming again) not intending to spend her whole life in Korea
@@meode7677 exactky
Bro this is like a dream. They’re literally best friends even tho they’ve been through a shit ton
Such a double standard to expect his compliance when it comes to her religion. She does not consider his boundaries or the trauma they seem to have implied he had experienced in his past. If you want to guarantee someone will support your religion, go find another Christian to date. Don't expect people to change their beliefs and boundaries to cater to your religious needs. I'm not saying people of different religions can't make it work but she is clearly unsatisfied with his contributions and support for her beliefs. Stop pushing your religion on others and respect his beliefs just as you ask him to respect yours. If you can't do that, don't be together.
This
She wasn't pushing she just said she would like it if he went.
@@alexare6655 She implied it was a requirement for their relationship to be rekindled. But even if she only preferred it, it is still coercion and a conversion tactic to subject someone to an environment so heavily saturated with pro-Christian views and ideology. Whatever his religion may be, it is clear it does not involve attending church on his own accord. That’s part of his beliefs. If she truly supports those beliefs, there’s no reason he needs to be in that environment, especially if he has trauma.
@@malum_1 exactly
I don’t think he’s into the idea of being with her in the same way that she’s into that idea.
But what do I know
Reminds me of me and my ex ignoring all the shit of the past and jumping in. It did not ever end well tbh
I don't really understand her viewpoints on religion. She seems to be larping as a Christian rather than actually being one. Doesn't want an abortion, wants to raise her kids Christian, wants to force her spouse to attend church etc. but then sleeps around unmarried? There's nothing wrong with casual sex but at least be consistent, no?
thats how most of them are, hypocrtical and pick and choose what they want to follow
@@ItsDarkRightNow it's extra strange when she makes such a point of claiming that being a Christian is "her identity"
I don't think it ever works out if you're religious and want that other person to be religious but they aren't really with it.
ikr. and why cant she just find a man at church
@@bevs9995 true to that as well. Also I know accidents happen but….not very Christian like to get pregnant out of wedlock
No way would I get back with her. She is pregnant with someone else baby. That's a flat no for me.
He's leading her on, but she's hopeful :( It seemed like even if there's a tiny slit within the door of the possibility of them getting back together, she's going to keep hoping. She seemed like a smart girl, I hope she finds a better person and love herself first ❤️
You just described how i feel about my ex.
I AGREE
Yeah men are jerks
@Md. Jasim
Hope so or he'll just end up cheating on her again
That's funny because to me it felt like she was the one leading him on lol
Damn... Religion really messes with people's head.
I'm glad I had enough of my Christian days long ago
When she said that it was All In for the date thing that wasn’t exactly fair to him when he was a little hesitant. He should be allowed some time to think about it like he said there’s a lot of responsibility and pressure that comes with them dating now as to before. But if he really wants to be with her then he’ll stand up to those responsibilities ❤ good video
Man I thought my love life was a train wreck
Yeah, she annoys me. No cap. The guy is already gonna have to take responsibility for another man's kid. Now he has to go to church every week, despite having traumatic experiences with being forced to do that? He dodged a big bullet. She needs to be single for a while. See what god has in store for her as a single mother.
I really hope you are 12, because if you're saying this as an adult I feel sorry for your understanding of the world we live in. You need a huuge reality check.
@@mantaraylove reality to what? Your biased perspective on the world? As far as I could see this seems like a bad idea, with red flags already in the beginning of this video. And I’m just acknowledging that. The fact that your ignoring everything I just said, the details and explanation I gave. And in return your giving a vague, general statement of how “I don’t understand the world”, with no added information given. Your not refuting my point, your not even giving a different perspective, your just using an ad hominem and an empty statement with no backing. And your calling me a child? You sound ridiculous because even a high schooler could communicate their thought, beliefs or opinions better than this. Show your age, because I can tell you this right. Age does not define maturity, intellect, judgement or how correct your are. And your a perfect example of that. And obviously I’m not a kid, I just don’t have the privilege of being able to overlook certain things the way you do. And you may think I sound ignorant, but reading the comment that you posted, I can guarantee you that the feeling toward you is mutual. Please give me a reality check, I need to learn from you. Cause clearly you’ve got it all figured out.
This series is one of the best ideas cut came up with
this was enjoyable to watch. these two people had a BIG history and this experiment kind of "forcing" them in this box made their past resurface and was definitely what they needed to heal. i hope they always are friends no matter what happens.
RUN! yall both got growing to do. and it aint together! Peace and blessings on your journey!