Did the CVT ruin Nissan?
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- "Did the CVT ruin Nissan?” explores how Nissan's pioneering decision to integrate continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) into their vehicles, notably the Altima, was a bold industry first. This gamble transformed the quality and driving experience of Nissan's products, setting them apart as leaders in automotive innovation.
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I just bought a Nissan Versa for my wife as a commuter car as it is the cheapest car in America. She drives a Suburban and I drive a 3/4 ton truck and the gas was killing us out of her suburban. I have a company car so my truck barely gets driven. Plus she was racking up a lot of miles on the expensive family ride. But I refused to buy the cvt so we got the manual transmission version. I would much rather change the clutch after 150-200k than drop thousands on multiple cvt issues. The 1.6 4 bangers they use in the versa have been around forever and are damn near bullet proof. I think Nissan makes a solid car but made a critical error with going to cvt.
Blame Carlos Ghosn. He made Nissan profitable by lowering quality.
I don’t think he gets enough blame
Merging with Renault did not help.
lol Japan arrested him and he ran away. The engines are still bangers. Super clean inside.
It is just like Boeing. When they focus on the stock prices more than technology.
Nissan Cvt not as bad as you think! Lot people don't do maintenance, for example no one changes the "housing filter" lot mechanic wont change because they dont know it exist on the transmission, they get really dark and black after 20-30000 miles of driving and also don't neglect the fluid changes on transmission oil as well because they're delicate these transmission are not your traditional and cannot take beating! these main reason why they fail. They need a little bit more care but they're cheap to maintain this will get you a long lasting transmission. I hope this help!
Nissan could give the customer free maintained on CVT oil change, it might help the sales
Yes it cost me $$6,000 so far and got rid of my Nissan Maxima.
Sheesh! 😩
The Pathfinder used to have a CVT but went to a standard transmission in 2022.
I own a 2013 Nissan CVT and have been drain and filling the trans fluid every year myself, put a trans cooler too and changed the filter and cleaned the pan myself..don't drive hard and seems to be fine...the fluid not only lubes, but cools and cleans..
The power is really what ruins the Transmission. I think if Nissan dialed back the power they would be more reliable.
@@BrkDownMedia thanks, if you drain and fill and maintain it and don't race car drive them they are fine...
Nissan in the 2000’s and think we’re great cars they lasted well over 300,000 miles, especially the earlier 2000 models. They did not have CVT though it seems like around 2009 2010 and newer they just went downhill and fast The only thing with the Nissan CBT is they say to change the fluid every 30 to 60,000 miles but you can drain the fluid at 15 20,000 and see all the material disintegration inside the fluid even as low as 15,000 miles, the quality inside those transmissions are just crap.
Merging with Renault ruined Nissan.
This was interesting. I have a Nissan Kicks. I bought it because my car was totaled last year and car availability was scarce at the time, but I needed a car, and I wanted an inexpensive one. I had driven it as a rental when my car was totaled, and I liked driving it. I knew about the CVT when I purchased a 2023 model, but I also heard from people who had the car and who had no problems with it. It is a year old and thus far I have had no problems with it. I drive it on the expressway and around town. It gets great gas mileage, much better than it is supposed to (although I was disappointed yesterday when it was only 34.5 for combo city/expressway driving). I have even gotten as high as 46.3 on the expressway. The main reason I think they keep the CVT is because of the wonderful gas mileage. It is great to fill up the tank and only pay $20.00 for gas. People also hate the slow acceleration, but I don't have a problem with that. I pick up speed on the ramp to the expressway, and I have no trouble merging onto the expressway or changing lanes. Of course, if my transmission goes, and Nissan gives me a hard time replacing it, my attitude toward the car will change. I frankly don't trust the Nissan dealers in my area, but I don't trust Honda or any other dealers as they all have underhanded tactics. Nissan also incorporated a shift sound into their CVT transmissions. I could do without that. If the transmission is going to fail early on, I won't like that, and I worry about that. However, if changing the transmission fluid and filters ever 20,000 will keep that from happening, I'm okay with that. This is the first Nissan I've owned. I also have to admit I truly like the look of Nissan cars, and I like the price. The sensors all work extremely well, or at least they do now.
The CVT shouldn’t give you much trouble in the first 5 years but as the belt begins to age and the fluid continues to overheat with time, that’s likely where you’ll experience the most issues.
Make sure you get the CVT fluid and filters/ two changed at 30 thousand intervals, regardless of what you dealer says. Many people in Nissan reviews recommend this. Also do not hammer on it as in hard from a stop acceleration as they do not hold up to hard driving. Just trying to help you so you won't end up with expensive repairs, especially once the warranty expires.
I heard the newer models have less problems and they are using less powerful engines than before as well from what I see in the lineup. That will help with reliability and regular fluid and filter changes could push it to 200k miles and beyond. I had a 2015 lancer with the same transmission and i got it up to 130k with no problems and my lazy butt never touched the transmission and i never serviced it in the 50k miles i put on it. Also only made 130hp on a good day but it serves my point. I am also pretty sure the one previous owner had never looked at or replaced the fluid for the first 80k miles.
Somebody ended up trying to blow past me while merging in a risky move and the lancer got totaled from just a beat up door and a broken mirror. Thing was barely worth it’s own weight in metal but at least they gave me enough to get into a new vehicle LOL
I have a 16 sentra with 108k. From experience, the ones made in Japan are damn near bullet proof. The Rouge and altima and pathfinder 13 and up. Murano and maxima are Bullet proof. It's how they are driven.
The cvt wasn’t the problem. UNRELIABILITY was the problem that affected many components including the cvt . But many non cvt transmissions were problems as well after Renault such as the 04 maxima ‘s 05 Pathfinder’s geared transmissions
I have a 2008 Sentra CVT with 180k miles and it still drives like a champ
Glad it’s still trucking!
you got a unicorn better hold onto it
Power???
Aceleration???
@@kentprince4851 that’s the down fall no power and the more power/-and hard gas punching acceleration the faster the CVT goes out
It’s the people like treat the car like shit it’ll be 10x more shit like I can say if I taken care and knew how to drive (most people in this comment and irl can’t) most of my problems would be non existent
Nissan cvt fluid and filter change every 30k miles still fail, Toyota CVT never touched go over 200k miles.
I think that’s because the Engines are too potent for the CVTs - or they’re cheaply engineered.
Toyota uses ecvt in hybrids, no belt just planetary gears. Very reliable
@@BrianNC81 They also use a first physical first gear in most of their their non hybrid model - ntm, their engines are centered around efficiency, not power. Nissans engines are punchy for what they are.
@@BrianNC81 the 2006-2013 1.8L Corolla Altis (Thailand) is non hybrid, no 1st gear it's 7 speed CVT-i and also use in bigger Corolla Cross, CHR 1.8. I saw people never change fluid run 500,000km with original transmission.
I bet you forgot housing filter you know there 2 filters right?
I remember riding on the freeway in a friend's Versa when the CVT started acting up and forced us to be doing 45 mph while we were being passed by folks doing 70-80 mph. That was not a good time. It goes without saying that I'd never get a car with a CVT and have a lot of distrust of Nissan cars.
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Find it odd that Nissan dealers will not clean and change the filters, they only will do a drop and fill.
Service technician actually told me that it wasn’t necessary.
Nissan any comments??
To answer the question. YES. Nissan Trucks have always been good their cars with CVT's are prone to CVT failures. The numbers don't lie. Sad.
Yep. I have a 2015 Nissan Versa and the transmission is going out.
Because people in America for the most part drive their cars hard, and people also do not get the CVT fluid and filters yes two changed every thirty thousand miles like they should.
@scrambler69-xk3kv I changed the trans fluid every 30,000 miles, yet I still have transmission issues.
@@IQscan51@IQscan51 i know people that do drain and fills every other engine oil change and they get decent reliability out of the cvt but overall JATCO CVT's are garbage🙄
@@scrambler69-xk3kv it's known fact that JATCO CVT's are garbage. They have really hurt Nissans reliability and reputation. Many people do the scheduled maintenance and still have issues. It's not that American people drive hard in the USA we just drive allot more than most around the world due to the vast open space and highway systems. People actually drive "harder" in Europe than in the USA where speed limits are higher, and to maintain vehicles is probably not expensive.
I have a 2011 Sentra with 130K miles. Zero problems. Looks and runs like new.
The Sentra is one of the lesser problematic models. So that checks out.
Driving it around 10,000 miles a year it should last forever
Toyota and Honda have CVTs but uses a launch gear which takes the brunt of the wear and tear which allows their CVTs to last nearly 200,000 mi if properly maintained.
2003 Nissan Murano - 2 Transmissions. What a shame. Will never buy another Nissan again, except maybe the trucks.
I'm a Nissan tec. I've worked at the same Nissan dealership for the last 21 years. The CVT's are junk. In the last 20 years, Nissan has gone from a car I use to love (I own 5) to a car that I expect to break down within the first year. It's sad, but that's the truth. No, their not what they use to be
Well there you have it!
Bring back the manual transmission!! Learn how to drive one. It's not hard.
I have a Mitsubishi with a Nissan trans, same trans as in the Versa. With only 78hp the cvt fluid temps still go way over operating temperature under certain conditions, especially in the summer and or stop and go traffic . I cant imagine what those temps would be with a bigger engine, let alone my little underpowered 3 cyl. Make sure to change your fluid and clean those pan magnets as regular maintenance.
And two filters one in the pan and one on the outside of trans on driver's side under a cover. Every thirty thousand miles and do no drive them aggressively or they will not last. They cannot take abuse.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv I'm aware, i actually do 20k intervals.
I was looking on car-part. Versa engines are under $200 with relatively low miles. Get a Versa with a manual. Doesn't matter the mileage. Swap in a 90k motor for $200.
For some reason the Japanese car companies love the CVT transmissions.
I bought a 2022 Nissan Rogue Sport because I wanted a small SUV for city driving. One thing I began to notice is that every time I drove the vehicle my ears would start ringing. I did some research and discovered it was cause by the CVT's winy noise. I also found out that if you wanted the CVT transmission to last more than 60,000 miles you had to drive it like a 90 year old grandmother. After 4 months I traded it in for a 2023 Mazda CX-30 which is a fantastic vehicle.
Had a 2008 Nissan maxima brand new. CVT failed at 58000. Second CVT failed at 120000. Wreck it at 140000. Had 3 transmissions in the dang thing. SMH.
Sheesh! I hear Maxima's don't make it as long as Altima's and Sentras. Sorry you had to deal with that headache.
@BrkDownMedia Nissan was not the first. Dutch manufacturer DAF introduced the Variomatic transmission in 1958.
Goes back further than that with Leonardo DaVinci credited with designing the first CVT in 1490.
If Nissan cvts are so good there wouldn't have been multiple class action lawsuits against multiple models that resulted in multiple settlements and multiple warranty extensions.
If Nissan cvts are are so good the cvt wouldn't have been dropped in favor of the automatic zf in the pathfinder after only 1 generation.
If Nissan cvts are so good they wouldn't be excluded from their truck and sports car lineup.
If Nissan cvts are so good they wouldn't need to be flushed every 20-30k miles. Fan boys say no skimping on maintenance. This means Nissan cvts are high maintenance.
Fan boys also say cvts must never be driven hard. AKA drive it like grandma and treat it like a princess. AKA they are weak.
If cvts are expected to be a substitute they need to be _at the LEAST_ the same or *better* than the automatics they're replacing NOT worse.
Points were made 🫠
Not gonna lie you’re just trash dude it’s a major skill issue, first car 2017 Sentra sv 30k miles and u still have it today I got it march 2019 and as a kid with a first car who raced with it and didn’t do any maintenance honestly the cvt trans isn’t as bad as you act, hence I have to blame you, no way you should be 120 6/10 times you drive for 2 years before getting any type of problems, don’t get me wrong it’s not the best trans but being reasonable and taking care of it would definitely prevent 70-80% if your problems I barley got to hating my car and the cvt on my 4th year mark after treating the car like trash
Auto makers were forced to transition to cvt to comply with western regulations on emissions and efficiency mpg/km/L
The people need to start throwing blame to their Senators and Representatives. The companies are forced to come up with solutions to meet tougher and tougher EPA mileage standards. I am all for making strides to help the environment but we will ruin the economy long before climate change becomes REAL serious. Government and manufacturers need to come up together with practical solutions to solve this. Sadly too many would be happy if we all lived in caves with no cars or electricity.
Now most new cars on the road are CVT, mainly because they are very efficient at squeezing the most miles from a gallon of fuel.
False! Mazda, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, where able to comply without cvt. The reason for cvt is primarily cost.
Fuji Heavy industries is now Subaru, Mitsubishi Heavy industry is a separate company.
I believe 1981 when Datsun became Nissan.
I didn't know that ford had a CVT in their 500
Tbh I didn't either until I did the video and learned about it. And it was definitely a Fail on Ford.
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@@kelvinchannel9592 Thanks! Working on some as we speak. Hopefully you’ll enjoy those coming up!
@@BrkDownMedia I most definitely will. I can't wait.
Isn't fuji heavy industries subaru?
Yes, there is also Mitsubish Heavy Industries.
They should have an optional 8 speed zf automatic in the maxima. Cvt are trash.
Better yet Nissan needs to work with ZF Gear to build a true Powershift transmission in their SUV and van line ups. Most agricultural tractors 🚜 use different versions of these transmissions and work very well. 😊
2013 Nissan pathfinder was the worst vehicle ever owned. Replaced transmission at 75k miles struts and a arm's at 60k miles. I will never buy another Nissan again.
Yea that one was pretty notorious 🫠
No, it's not the CVT, it's their total lack in knowing the car business and being to much occupied at filling their pockets with money. The Japan Nissan leadership is a bunch of ignorant idiots (a thing Carlos Ghosn mentioned several times in various interviews regarding the malaise at Nissan). They have no vision and are arrogantly ignorant, up to a point that they will not recognise any wrong doing. JATCO makes crap, everyone knows that but as Nissan (and some others) have a substantial part in that crap company, they will of course never say bad things about it. Renault, the form alliance partner had long discussions about the lack of quality of JATCO transmissions. That's why Renault never used it in their products, preferring dual clutch units over Jatco crap. This does not mean that Renault has a higher quality standard. On the contrary.
Fuji Heavy Industries is Subaru
Yeah realized I mixed it up by accident with MHI - Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. They’re a big supplier in the industry.
As we all should know nissan is not the only company to use the bad ass cvt 😢
I own a 2010 Nissan cube with a cvt don’t buy a cvt from Nissan
I secretly love that car tho 😭
@@BrkDownMedia a stick shift version is great the cvt ruins it other wise it is a great car other wise the mpg is great
Not only that , the intrapment of the 72 to 96 month in financing and extremely high approval ratings for the lower minorities in the less unfortunate communitys
lol I talked about that in my earlier Nissan Altima video I did a while back
Sadly they used to be reliable and they make beautiful vehicles but I wouldn't touch one because of the poor reliability.
No, Nissan ruined the CVT
Did they get most of the bugs worked out by the 21 rouge should I avoid them like a hippie chick in Portland avoids deodorant?
If it’s a 21 it’s too early too tell but I think they’ve worked out most bugs. But I’d say unless you’re on a budget, I’d avoid it. The car is probably 4 years old (Depending on when it went into service) so that’s almost right when you can begin to expect most major headaches to appear.
@@BrkDownMedia thanks dude… I am kinda on a budget, waiting to find out if insurance totals out my 12 year old Camry…. Looking at those and the Foresters… I know they have a CVT too but Subaru seems to have it a bit more figured out.. that and they use a steel chain
@@jbs2763 Subarus are pretty solid. Just make sure you keep an eye on the head gaskets and you’ll be fine. Don’t forget about Mazda either.
@@BrkDownMediamy wife has a 13 cx5… not that comfortable to be but I’ll check a newer one out
@@jbs2763 I did video about that as well if you’re interested
No problem so far 2022 Nissan rogue with only 12,500 miles
Sell it and get a rav4 before warranty is up
@@BrianNC81 it doesn’t matter I don’t think it concerns me. I only do about 3000 miles a year retired
I disagree. Nissan has some good cars, and they really improved CVT technology a lot.
A drove a 2016 Nissan Rogue for 360k miles before selling it, and the person who got it is still driving. The cvt never gave me a single problem.
In the latter half of the video I explained the sales numbers to show the impact of the CVT changeover. So the thing is, based on your year mileage that’s mostly highway, the age is usually the problem in addition to service schedules. So in that context, yours would be an anomaly to the masses. Thankfully you had a positive experience and testimony!
@BrkDownMedia That could be the case. I followed strict policy of oil replacement since I was driving so much.
I actually had other nissan cvt cars and currently have a 2022 Rogue as well. The secret with CVT is simple. Never rocket launch your car from a stop and never town things....it will last forever if you obey that
@@diegovn That checks out, being that Toyota added a physical first gear to their CVTs and you don’t hear a peep.
Key word, improved
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Then the driver is limited as a defensive driver.
Imagine trying to escape a hurricaine driving a cvt in stop and go traffic on highway and everyone is trying to accelerate.
Another example, after paying a toll alongside a six lane exchange and the driver need to get on the far left or far right side. Mind you fleets of long bed trucks surround you.
Simply put, there are situations where you need hard acceleration.
I suppose exceptions will be or are made for state troopers.
We dont live in a perfect world.
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No… every driver need look out for manual book in the glow box …..
Make that glove box. and owner's manual
it is Nissan quality that killed them
yes, the cvt trash, ruined their cars. they should just focus on making manual transmission cars.
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Yes it has ruined there quality if they would put more towards quality it would be better I have heard to many stories about people having no issues with theirs to people that want buy another one I'm in the won't buy another one I have a two thousand and thirteen Rough had to have a rear drive axle put in at eight five thousand miles at a cost of four thousand dollars it all boils down to quality I have been in the automotive industry for Twenty four years Nissan is the worse on quality it used to be great quality brother had a nineteen ninety four Sentra had two hundred some thousand miles in it before it had any issues sad they have done a one eighty on quality
DO NOT BUY CVT.
it runs, when it dies you need a brand new CVT, if it's an older car you car gets TOTALED. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED. -man up and buy a Toyota, Nissans suck!
Arg the way Americas pronounce Nissan...
Yes.
CVT's are awful.
Also, their interiors are shit.
NO it didn't Nissan has been crap for years!!
Nissan CVT ARE COMPLETE TRASHHHHH!!!