THE DREAM. THE TURN ONE COCO DREAM. I am shocked that this deck actually works as well as it does. Honestly I do think the deck should have like, a faithless looting or something to ditch Chancellors and draw action, or potentially even cutting all but one Chancellor for something else (just cuz I think this deck kinda wants Spirit Guide copy 5?) But this seems ungodly fun to play on something like MTGO, where no-one will see it coming. So silly. So, so silly.
I was thinking add some amount of blood raid because theres so much power at 3, which is what it'll normally hit, or a ritual to let you play another 3 from your hand. I think it would be good over chancellor at least.
Seth Chapman it needs a lot of work. I don't play legacy, but this probably scoops to a chalice on 1, or a T1 FOW. Besides, I only have half a sideboard
i havent watched in a while cuz i dont usually like modern, but i like the way u made the background of the Deck list the color of the cards they are. thats an awesome touch
MTGGoldfish how did you figure out it was soul sisters? Also I would have been traumatized if I had seen that turn happen on my opponents side Would've been like "nope, nope, uh uh, not happening" *scoop*
I wonder if Ponza's supposed to be a chalice on one matchup? It blanks Utopia Sprawl, Arbor Elf, Birds of Paradise, and Lightning Bolt, so it gives them way fewer ways to interact and gets rid of almost all of their mana acceleration.
Alex White yeah good point. From what I saw seems like deck has an unbalanced sideboard plan as well. I don’t personally like decks where it’s not so clear cut of what to put in and take out
Mitchell Boyd I think vs Ponca it’s -4 magus because they have a lot of basics, +4 chalice, -2 collected company because you’re boarding out a bunch of creatures for non-creatures, and +2 chainwhirler
This is such a fun deck to watch do its thing. With those changes, it could be more solid. It reminds me a bit of Free Win Red, though Free Win Red is stronger.
i used to run a mono red eldrazi deck in the alst eldrazi standard. it was janky and fun and i was able to turbo flip hanweir as early as t3 which was fun.
Please make a deck with "Master of The Feast" I would love to see that card work! Also, ever since I subbed about a month ago, I can't stop watching your videos!!! #ElementalBreach #LiegeOfTheTangle
27:35 "But collected company could be anything! It could even be a chainwhirler! Ah you know we always wanted one of those!" Also, wizards should totally reprint Elvish Spirit Guide. Definitely not a bad reason at all for there to not be a second SSG effect in Modern...
8:02 finks is a good threat, weak to path, but great against wrath, also chancellor seems awful against control because you don't really need to go fast, and the card itself does nothing.
Question against the ponza deck, wouldn’t chalice be a consideration seeing as it turns off so many of their cards? Bolt, birds, arbor elf, utopia sprawl?
MTGGoldfish could try 4 bbe and 4 bolt then you have some form of removal or even to the face if struggling to get dmg through, I do like the deck very much but maybe these changes could add more consistenty
To be honest I think sideboarding out the chancellors is a mistake. The deck seems to play out much better with them in. Its a bit risky, but I think having some dead drops is worth it.
In addition - couldn't you just cut green entirely (despite the value you get from Collected Company) and add in stuff like Rampaging Ferocidon, and maindeck those Chainwhirlers and Chalices?
Well, Red Prison is already a tier 4 deck in modern. I'd rather go the other way and add BBE for additional free 3 drop value. That said, I'm an 8 Ball Company player, so I'm weird. Hoogland playing 8 Ball, for reference: ua-cam.com/video/vmGZ72Xm3k0/v-deo.html
I'm struggling to see what this deck does well that 8 whack doesn't do better. You're casting more expensive stuff more quickly, but... that's really just an excuse to generate card disadvantage. The chalice flexibility is a straight sideboard advantage, I guess.
Is there a better play on Turn One, 4 Mana than Collected Company? I feel like RUG Sarkhan would be SWEET, if entirely unrealistic (but then, you SOMEHOW played Turn One CoCo).
I would cut Chanceller for Bolt, 4 rituals for birds(don't know about hierach, cant make red->chainwhirler doesnt like that) and put some grave hate in the sideboard.
Toss up IMO. Do u play to stop one 4-of or try to be as fast as possible. Seth opted to do the latter. As you saw he did think bout it and highlighted the chalice but didn’t bring them in
I idslike lannery and rishkar in the deck, I'd much rather have 4 bolts to keep blockers out of the way and give you some reach. I also don't know if 8 rituals and 4 chancellors is good, that's a lot of air in your deck, maybe try out some mana dorks instead of the chancellors? 4 Tireless Tracker in a deck so reliant on explossive starts is janky as well, I wouldn't play more than 3, why not try out some spicy 2 drops like burning tree emissary?
I don’t really understand why this deck has blood moon in sideboard when it’s already running 4 magus in the main. It really feels like those spaces should be used for like some graveyard hate or more ways to interact with creatures.
It's mice that you post a bonus video on Sunday, but I hope you don't think you're now excused from publishing your regular article on Monday, Seth! :)
Bolt is way better than the giant green drop imo, to a point where you lost games because you didn't have it... Having one less mana t1 is a fine trade off for removal and fewer bad topdecks.
Why do you flash the cards in the tech section on the screen faster than we can read them? I mean, it's a 50 minute video, you can take a little more time showing what the deck actually is and less time playing it.
Light of Ryga You’re supposed to either watch the deck tech or pause the video like a normal person would. Literally no one wants the game videos to have less games in them
This video IS the deck tech. If your video requires the viewer to pause it in order to understand what's being conveyed, then it's a poor video. Period. Maybe you watch these videos to see an average player play against randoms on the internet, but not everyone does. Some people tune in to see a new deck, learn what it is, and see its interactions. Since it's already a 50 minute video, he could have taken an extra 2 minutes to show and explain the deck before he launched into playing a deck that I don't really understand because he rushed through explaining it as fast as he fucking could.
30:36 Seth: I don't know what we could possibly have that could ruin their plan...
Opponent: Gotta play around Pact of the Titan.
Feel better soon Seth!
THE DREAM. THE TURN ONE COCO DREAM.
I am shocked that this deck actually works as well as it does. Honestly I do think the deck should have like, a faithless looting or something to ditch Chancellors and draw action, or potentially even cutting all but one Chancellor for something else (just cuz I think this deck kinda wants Spirit Guide copy 5?) But this seems ungodly fun to play on something like MTGO, where no-one will see it coming.
So silly. So, so silly.
not surprised at all. Back in the day Dark Ritual pumped out some serious threats in Mono black Suicide or Mono Black Winnie . Speed wins.
Seth Chapman tappedout.net/users/Thescarabbob/lists/free-win-black-2/
Drake not going to lie looks good. M
I was thinking add some amount of blood raid because theres so much power at 3, which is what it'll normally hit, or a ritual to let you play another 3 from your hand. I think it would be good over chancellor at least.
Seth Chapman it needs a lot of work. I don't play legacy, but this probably scoops to a chalice on 1, or a T1 FOW. Besides, I only have half a sideboard
i havent watched in a while cuz i dont usually like modern, but i like the way u made the background of the Deck list the color of the cards they are. thats an awesome touch
i have so much empathy for the soul sisters player. damn he got stomped
We either stop or get stomped, there's no middle ground with this deck.
MTGGoldfish how did you figure out it was soul sisters? Also I would have been traumatized if I had seen that turn happen on my opponents side
Would've been like "nope, nope, uh uh, not happening" *scoop*
Michael Helton Serra Ascendant is only played in Soul Sisters.
Michael Helton I suppose it could also have been martyr proc
lack of any actual soul sisters being played makes me think it was martyr proc
The combination of basic forest with snow-covered mountain has me tilted beyond repair.
Good job, Seth, you actually won game 1!
Loved the archetype!!! awesome video!!!
I'm bummed we never saw Garrison/Battlements Meld. I know it's not the goal of the deck, but still super sweet!
I wonder if Ponza's supposed to be a chalice on one matchup? It blanks Utopia Sprawl, Arbor Elf, Birds of Paradise, and Lightning Bolt, so it gives them way fewer ways to interact and gets rid of almost all of their mana acceleration.
Alex White yeah good point. From what I saw seems like deck has an unbalanced sideboard plan as well. I don’t personally like decks where it’s not so clear cut of what to put in and take out
Mitchell Boyd I think vs Ponca it’s -4 magus because they have a lot of basics, +4 chalice, -2 collected company because you’re boarding out a bunch of creatures for non-creatures, and +2 chainwhirler
Yeah, not sure about the sideboard of this deck. Maybe Chalice is worthwhile against Ponza.
Games start at 4:10
Flat Earth Talk thanks
We're heading to modern!WITHOUT GRAVEYARD HATE
federico baraldi i mean, the jeskai decks are putting up good results withou gy hate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Odd time for this release. But cool.
This deck looks like my kind of thing! I would have an ahn-crop crasher or a deathgorge scavenger in there, but this deck is unspeakably sweet as is.
The other thing I would play (and it's technically a 3 drop) is reckless bushwhacker for extra damage
I mean, it works, but it doesn't feel like a strategy, more like a stipulation.
Sebastian Shammer Welcome to Red/Green
dingding12321 face is the place
can this be deck be named "three-win red (and green)"?
Why not play bloodbraid elf? It gives you a 3 drop or a free ritual to cast another 3 drop... More or less good as coco
coco is an instant
Because this deck was built for turn 1 coco.
Not a three-drop! (Probably better than CoCo, honestly).
MTGGoldfish BBE will hit rituals fairly often, which is something you have to keep in mind
MTGGoldfish I think you can play 2-3 bloodbraid elf and 4 coco, that's not a bad deal...
This is such a fun deck to watch do its thing. With those changes, it could be more solid. It reminds me a bit of Free Win Red, though Free Win Red is stronger.
"Let's get Rabblin'." You win this time, Seth ...
Give your voice a rest Seth! We will understand! Hope u feel better.
First match had me smiling huge, always nice to take a steaming dump on control
Sunday much abrew? i mean... Hell yeah
i used to run a mono red eldrazi deck in the alst eldrazi standard. it was janky and fun and i was able to turbo flip hanweir as early as t3 which was fun.
Please Seth play Goblin Coco, it’s simply much more fun and competitive!!!
That does sound pretty fun.
Please make a deck with "Master of The Feast" I would love to see that card work! Also, ever since I subbed about a month ago, I can't stop watching your videos!!! #ElementalBreach #LiegeOfTheTangle
Turn 1 CoCo is the coolest thing I've ever seen in magic
27:35
"But collected company could be anything! It could even be a chainwhirler! Ah you know we always wanted one of those!"
Also, wizards should totally reprint Elvish Spirit Guide. Definitely not a bad reason at all for there to not be a second SSG effect in Modern...
That white deck around 20:00 was more likely Martyr Proc, but somehow they bricked on no Martyr of Sands or removal
4:41 rabble on, sing my song, on my way, i gotta rabble on
The end of the video was a mini fish doctor. :)
Constructive criticism here (I hope): Would you increase the contrast of the font in the overlay? I find it hard to read.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll look into tweaking it.
I kinda preferred the old way it was done TBH
8:02 finks is a good threat, weak to path, but great against wrath, also chancellor seems awful against control because you don't really need to go fast, and the card itself does nothing.
The no fetch was not a punt. You had a luck counter!
Question against the ponza deck, wouldn’t chalice be a consideration seeing as it turns off so many of their cards? Bolt, birds, arbor elf, utopia sprawl?
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3 drop wins on turn 3.. how flavorful!
Correct me if I'm wrong but bbe instead of chancellor seem very good, hits everything in the deck bar coco
Yeah, Chancellor is pretty bad :(
BBE might be better than Collected Company even.
MTGGoldfish could try 4 bbe and 4 bolt then you have some form of removal or even to the face if struggling to get dmg through, I do like the deck very much but maybe these changes could add more consistenty
just watched the stream replay of the red stompy deck last night! weird!
The raw power
8:15 why didn't you exile the chancellor instead of the mountain there?
MrGelflin maybe he didn’t know that was an option. It’s such a great interaction in this deck
Trevor Spencer yeah, he does do it later on. i guess he didn’t realize it yet.
To be honest I think sideboarding out the chancellors is a mistake. The deck seems to play out much better with them in. Its a bit risky, but I think having some dead drops is worth it.
This deck seems so fun to play... if only I had money :(
How did you fetch out a mountain with a windswept heath?
This is what a sick olive sounds like...
Yeah, this one was recorded during peak sickness.
Hope you feel better Seth
Aww I really wanted to see Hanweir Garrison/Battlements meld so bad :(
match 2 the win tracker is backwards. it says you lost game 1 (unless you did another boggles fetch)
Instead of going all in with Chancellor, wouldn't a prison Approach with something like Trinisphere fit the deck a bit better?
J3llo I had the same thought.
That was my expectation from the title
In addition - couldn't you just cut green entirely (despite the value you get from Collected Company) and add in stuff like Rampaging Ferocidon, and maindeck those Chainwhirlers and Chalices?
Well, Red Prison is already a tier 4 deck in modern. I'd rather go the other way and add BBE for additional free 3 drop value. That said, I'm an 8 Ball Company player, so I'm weird.
Hoogland playing 8 Ball, for reference: ua-cam.com/video/vmGZ72Xm3k0/v-deo.html
What's bbe?
I feel like Hellrider would give this deck some incredible reach and power up goblin/hanweir tokens after rabblemaster gets bolted.
In Match 3, you could’ve brought in Chalice against their cheap draw spells, at least slow them down. At least you had an option over the Chancellor.
I'm struggling to see what this deck does well that 8 whack doesn't do better. You're casting more expensive stuff more quickly, but... that's really just an excuse to generate card disadvantage. The chalice flexibility is a straight sideboard advantage, I guess.
Turn one company? Sounds good
Is there a better play on Turn One, 4 Mana than Collected Company? I feel like RUG Sarkhan would be SWEET, if entirely unrealistic (but then, you SOMEHOW played Turn One CoCo).
Bloodbraid Elf also seems good, or a planeswalker.
Would deathgorge scavenger work well enough as graveyard hate for dredge and such?
It could, it's a bit slow for Modern, but it still might be worth it. It is a three-drop after all :)
What is this UW control deck? What's the main restoration
Target, snap and torrential?
JirachiVersace snap and wall
I feel like Scab-Clan Berserker needs to be somewhere in this 75
I would cut Chanceller for Bolt, 4 rituals for birds(don't know about hierach, cant make red->chainwhirler doesnt like that) and put some grave hate in the sideboard.
You should play heartless summoning in this
Blossoming Defense instead of Chancellor! That would plug the quality hole of lightning bolt/path to exile.
No chalice against dredge?
Toss up IMO. Do u play to stop one 4-of or try to be as fast as possible. Seth opted to do the latter. As you saw he did think bout it and highlighted the chalice but didn’t bring them in
Exiling the Tracker instead of the second CoCo immediately after saying CoCo is a little iffy in the deck.
also, 666th like on the video :D gotta enjoy the small things^^
Why no steel-leaf champion?
New layout is hard to read. Not a fan
I idslike lannery and rishkar in the deck, I'd much rather have 4 bolts to keep blockers out of the way and give you some reach. I also don't know if 8 rituals and 4 chancellors is good, that's a lot of air in your deck, maybe try out some mana dorks instead of the chancellors?
4 Tireless Tracker in a deck so reliant on explossive starts is janky as well, I wouldn't play more than 3, why not try out some spicy 2 drops like burning tree emissary?
Dude you have to take a break, you will destroy your throat. Love this deck tho
turn 1 or turn 2 rabblemaster is pretty hard to deal with! especially when you are drawing more then 1
The nut draws are strong!
I don’t really understand why this deck has blood moon in sideboard when it’s already running 4 magus in the main. It really feels like those spaces should be used for like some graveyard hate or more ways to interact with creatures.
I got a purple pillow ad and a old dude was playing fortnite and yelled chicken dinner
I think in a number of cases here a turn 2 collected company is better than a turn 1 three drop.
Even though it's not a 3 drop, I feel like this deck needs some scoozes.
Yeah, having some graveyard hate would be nice.
38:51 is a hard punt not putting gemstone cavern out thete right?
Blake Hopkins cavern only goes to the battlefield if you’re on the draw
Bruno Petrucci you right my b.
Seth, you play MTGO like 5 hours a day, and you don't know that you can view your sideboard while in a game?
It's mice that you post a bonus video on Sunday, but I hope you don't think you're now excused from publishing your regular article on Monday, Seth! :)
I could see someone making a mono-red version of this deck
Mono-Red could be pretty sweet. Most of the good cards are red anyway.
When is four drop stompy?
why not turn 2 coco instead of turn 1 a 3 drop????
Bolt is way better than the giant green drop imo, to a point where you lost games because you didn't have it...
Having one less mana t1 is a fine trade off for removal and fewer bad topdecks.
why not play chalices against dredge in game 3? your on the play and it shuts off looting and neonate
And to think this was made before rotting regisaur
I feel as though you could have done better against the dredge match up had you sequenced a little differently.
Did you really upload this at 5 AM Eastern Time Seth? Get some dang sleep, man
Seth can you reply to this. When do m19 decks come out onto the channel?
Why not try deathgorge scavenger
deck kinda feels like it wants to be mono red.
now that's a... 3:05
chalice is stronk.
Moral? Pay way less money for mono red burn and still win as much?? Would this be true, hmm.
38:30 why the hell didn't you use you gamestone cavern and played chalice for 1???? How do you keep finding the worst plays possible?
Gemstone only works if you are on the draw :(
Read the card.
Why do you flash the cards in the tech section on the screen faster than we can read them? I mean, it's a 50 minute video, you can take a little more time showing what the deck actually is and less time playing it.
Light of Ryga You’re supposed to either watch the deck tech or pause the video like a normal person would. Literally no one wants the game videos to have less games in them
This video IS the deck tech. If your video requires the viewer to pause it in order to understand what's being conveyed, then it's a poor video. Period. Maybe you watch these videos to see an average player play against randoms on the internet, but not everyone does. Some people tune in to see a new deck, learn what it is, and see its interactions. Since it's already a 50 minute video, he could have taken an extra 2 minutes to show and explain the deck before he launched into playing a deck that I don't really understand because he rushed through explaining it as fast as he fucking could.
He literally says that this is a quick reminder and not a full deck tech. The full deck tech is here: ua-cam.com/video/gGMZaYSNf9M/v-deo.html
Oh okay, I didn't hear that. Thanks.
If you played two league and went 2-3 twice why not show a video that reflects that win record vs showing it go 3-2?
Is it just me or did Chancellor of the tangle never did anything? Looks like the worst point of the deck to me.
Chancellor is really, really bad. It's the card I want to cut most from the deck.
Middle of the night video outta nowhere
It's a long story.
Dang soul sisters didn't even get to play a card lol
So, Seth did you see the deck I sent?
12:53 61 CARD SPECIAL
Isn’t lotus petal just a better chancellor? Or is that card not in modern?
Nathan Johnson It is not in modern. You'd see it in a good few decks if it were
toast_recon that makes sense
Elvish spirit guide for chancellor?
Forrest Lombard not legal in modern
Julien Powell thanks my bad
!punt 9:25
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