Budget Magic: $98 (57 tix) Thunderous Wizards (Modern)

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  • @MTGGoldfish
    @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +16

    You can read more about the deck (along with non-budget and ultra-budget builds) here: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-98-57-tix-thunderous-wizards-modern

    • @channelnineproductions729
      @channelnineproductions729 6 років тому

      MTGGoldfish awesome deck ive been tinkering with the adeliz prowess thing since dominaria came out, never thought of the thunderous wrath route. Very nice :)

    • @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
      @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 6 років тому

      Please, Please, please do a non budget video of this deck. Having snapcaster in here would be absurd... Please?

    • @channelnineproductions729
      @channelnineproductions729 6 років тому

      Tyler Peacock he has a non budget version in the link. Im thinking of throwing in some mutagenic growths for prowess and maybe a couple crash through or temur battle rages. There are so many possibilities for this deck. Also im throwing in a playset of snapcaster mages for even more value

    • @TreyuWithGuitar
      @TreyuWithGuitar 6 років тому +1

      For budget you should brew a Pauper version of this deck with brainstorms fixing our Thunderous Wraths and other good prowess creatures like Elusive Spellfist and Jhessian Thief

    • @channelnineproductions729
      @channelnineproductions729 6 років тому

      I made a non budget with manamorphose mutagenic growth and snapcaster mage havent tested yet but i think its going to be powerful

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 6 років тому +145

    I feel like this deck wants Mutagenic Growth for the zero mana prowess and +2/+2

    • @augustorio277
      @augustorio277 6 років тому +26

      SmugLookingBarrel
      Or even manamorphose
      With 8 cantrips and 4 manamorfoses you can play with 18 lands

    • @funnydubby6401
      @funnydubby6401 6 років тому +14

      Augusto Rio good point, but it’s budget magic?

    • @augustorio277
      @augustorio277 6 років тому +9

      Yes, yes
      But o was wondering about the upgraded version
      I liked this deck, and manamorfoses and snapcastermage are both great for this deck

    • @ChunderThunder1
      @ChunderThunder1 6 років тому +11

      might as well just make it a kiln fiend deck at that point

    • @samfarr1665
      @samfarr1665 6 років тому

      SmugLookingBarrel I thought the same exact thing..I played u/rd prowess before git probe got the axe. It is so good. Plus, I play u/rd pauper now, so I'm partial to m growth..lol

  • @aaronnava5656
    @aaronnava5656 6 років тому +77

    The new editor moves too fast sometimes. 36:15 is a good example of that. You play Sage, you talk about the cards you saw and sorted, but we don't see what they were. We're missing relevant information there.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +24

      Thanks for pointing it out. I'll make a note of it!

    • @JakobLogan
      @JakobLogan 6 років тому +3

      Yeah. This has been fairly frequent lately. Usually when it happens it skipz the last word/part of a word so for the most part I can understand what is said, but it's still been happening too much

  • @wafflecopter208
    @wafflecopter208 6 років тому +39

    izzet staticaster would be a good addition to the sideboard. It is a wizard and it has some cool interactions with soul-scar mage

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 6 років тому +4

      wafflecopter208 yeah, I feel that card would be necessary for this build. He needs to have a reliable way to handle tokens

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +6

      Yeah, Staticaster seems like a good addition.

  • @JustAnotherPest
    @JustAnotherPest 6 років тому +15

    It's the Eternal Masters deck you always wanted to draft!

  • @E-mol
    @E-mol 6 років тому +48

    Something is wonky with the sound on this one D:
    Is there a limiter or compressor that makes the sound levels jump so much?

    • @Abolish_Religion
      @Abolish_Religion 6 років тому +2

      Ya sounds muffled every few seconds or so

    • @TheMegaNattoMan
      @TheMegaNattoMan 6 років тому +3

      Not to mention the popping and crackling.
      Seth, if you can read this, I'd recommend setting back up the Blue Yeti and using it with Voice meeter.
      There are settings to make your Yeti sound miles better than it does without VM.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback!

  • @sailor4076
    @sailor4076 6 років тому +30

    wiz lightning as anti chalice tech is hilarious

    • @CultOfTheSystem
      @CultOfTheSystem 6 років тому +4

      But at the same time, in G3 of Round 1, he had the same clock if he had 2 bolts (opponent would have been at 9 the turn SO cast Thundering Wrath with two stormchasers out- 5+2+2=9). The real blowout was his opp trying to +3/-3 a prowess creature with 3 toughness IN COMBAT - charlie brown levels of punt, there.

    • @EffinChat
      @EffinChat 6 років тому +1

      CultOfTheSystem to be fair, Seth had only 1 mana open and they had a chalice x1 out

    • @CultOfTheSystem
      @CultOfTheSystem 6 років тому +2

      Anchupom chalice on 1 didn't matter on this math :) even countered spells trigger prowess

  • @_Niffum
    @_Niffum 6 років тому +40

    100 percent of games won by 6 mana Thunderous Wrath!

    • @dmany13
      @dmany13 6 років тому +2

      Niffum. Ill say 90%

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 6 років тому +4

      There was at least one won by a miracle'd Wrath, but it's hilariously close.

    • @tomjackal5708
      @tomjackal5708 6 років тому

      Remember the Blast of Genius deck?

  • @Schlierfy1
    @Schlierfy1 Рік тому

    Thank you for the base line. Updating to 2023 and going to swing with it!

  • @OsseusChicago
    @OsseusChicago 6 років тому +6

    That feeling when you just bought the stuff for Flaming Wizard Burn so now I can build this for much less. Thanks Seth!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +3

      Yeah, a lot of the Standard Wizard deck will help you build this one. I should have pointed this out!

    • @tomjackal5708
      @tomjackal5708 6 років тому

      wasn't paying full attention, unsure what format this was at first from the video, so many standard cards
      also stormchaser would've tipped me off if i'd been playing any real standard recently, but magic duels servers aren't down yet so i'm still playing a lot of that

  • @TheoFrastB
    @TheoFrastB 6 років тому +7

    26:40 that voice crack though

  • @Skywarp2099
    @Skywarp2099 6 років тому +18

    42:40 Hollow One can have 16 power on turn two, but I can't have SFM? That seems reasonable.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +8

      Jeff? Is that you?

    • @Matthew-lu4sf
      @Matthew-lu4sf 6 років тому +1

      What's SFM?

    • @TheSquirrelbeast
      @TheSquirrelbeast 6 років тому +1

      Stoneforge Mystic

    • @Skywarp2099
      @Skywarp2099 6 років тому +4

      Sadly no, I'm not Jeff Hoogland, but I really want my Death and Taxes deck to be competitive again.

    • @brityankyid3237
      @brityankyid3237 6 років тому +1

      Skywarp2099 relax, now that the JtMS test was passed, I'm sure next modern ban update it will be unbanned

  • @jobby82
    @jobby82 6 років тому

    at 25:30 shouldn't the strangleroot have come back to the battle field since soul scar mage causes your wizard lightning to place -1/-1 counters instead of dealing damage. Thus removing the +1/+1 counter and triggering undying again?

  • @Valkyrie.99
    @Valkyrie.99 6 років тому +17

    8:09

  • @Nomadussc
    @Nomadussc 6 років тому

    Really enjoying the playstyle dynamic Sage creates with his ETB!

  • @MrMacdaddymcfly
    @MrMacdaddymcfly 6 років тому

    Shouldn't wizards lightning plus soulscar mage put -1-1 counters on the strangleroot geist and that removes it's +1+1 counter triggering undying again? @ 25:25

  • @arashinoguardianyeah9083
    @arashinoguardianyeah9083 6 років тому +12

    Wooow seth, that was a thing of beauty...with a better mana base you would have probably went 5/0, sadly that basic island in the last game sealed your fate...and as you said, snapcaster mage would be a bomb in this deck...maybe mutagenic growth instead of thunderous wrath and this could actually compete in a competitive league...i would gladly see a stream with the non-budget version of this piece of art

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +5

      Yeah, Snapcaster seems like a big upgrade. Maybe we'll try it for a stream.

  • @cadenchampion3244
    @cadenchampion3244 6 років тому

    Thunderous Wrath is one of my favorites. I thought of something similar to this deck with all the new wizard support, but this looks even better😁.

  • @vbkllr
    @vbkllr 6 років тому

    thanks for putting all of the game start times in the copy! super helpful for people with less time to watch :) it would be super helpful next time if you mention what deck you were playing against, so folks can know at a glance which games they're most interested in! thank you!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      That's an interesting idea, I'll see about doing it in the future.

  • @jameswilson4328
    @jameswilson4328 6 років тому

    Love this! Well played Seth

  • @Jptorrent004
    @Jptorrent004 6 років тому

    Yoooo, this deck is so sweet! Especially for a budget deck! I hope you keep tweaking this, and post the new list. Maybe even a non budget version, for funsies?

  • @squigglygiggaly4149
    @squigglygiggaly4149 6 років тому +19

    Could we see a non budget version?

    • @MaeseEidos
      @MaeseEidos 6 років тому

      Description > See article > Scroll down.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +13

      We might play it for the stream www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-98-57-tix-thunderous-wizards-modern

    • @T_Peazy
      @T_Peazy 6 років тому

      MTGGoldfish Seth! You need to play the non budget version on stream too. It looks so good.

    • @tomjackal5708
      @tomjackal5708 6 років тому

      never plays the non-budget versions of budget decks

    • @T_Peazy
      @T_Peazy 6 років тому

      Tom Jackal Its literally up on the replay page. Guess you were wrong.

  • @llLastll01
    @llLastll01 6 років тому +35

    why in the world is mutagenic growth not not in this deck?

    • @cloysterd
      @cloysterd 6 років тому +8

      Less damage than Bolt, I guess. It's also not super cheap for the budget.

    • @Flair3777
      @Flair3777 6 років тому +2

      I'd say because it's budget magic.

    • @72kyzero
      @72kyzero 6 років тому

      not when it comes to prowess creatures

    • @la.zanmal.
      @la.zanmal. 6 років тому +2

      mutagenic growth is probably less expensive than lightning bolt tho fwiw....

    • @totallynotthecia
      @totallynotthecia 6 років тому +1

      I'm guessing it's b/c it's budget, and a playset of mutagenic growth is $4-$8 and if you can only have one or the other you'd rather have the playset of bolts.

  • @joshuaallen6450
    @joshuaallen6450 6 років тому

    I wish I could like this video twice. Super sweet deck!!

  • @Viceprezbacon
    @Viceprezbacon 6 років тому +12

    Stormchaser Seth...

  • @SaintedPIacebo
    @SaintedPIacebo 6 років тому +3

    the editor skipped over the sage trigger? why? thats important to the video.

  • @HungryHungryShoggoth
    @HungryHungryShoggoth 6 років тому

    Wouldn't monastery swiftspear be better than Ghitu Lavarunner? I know it's not a Wizard, but I would think unconditional Haste and Prowess would outweigh creature type

  • @skynyrdjesus
    @skynyrdjesus 5 років тому

    Maybe theres something I'm just not seeing, but why wouldn't you run Wizards Retort in your sideboard counter slot? At least in place of the disdainful strokes if not the negate

  • @charlesveader5697
    @charlesveader5697 6 років тому

    Luv this deck. Have half deck but not enough cash to the other half. Will definitely be saving to get this deck.

  • @austinblankenship7631
    @austinblankenship7631 6 років тому +1

    As someone who’s played a lot of games with variations of this deck in standard and modern, I don’t like ghitu lava runner in the deck. By the time he becomes a 2/2 with haste, you almost always have better plays. I like a turn one siren stormtamer or curse catcher much more, because a lot of games it feels like you’re just pumping up one creature and can save your big nasty from a push or path.
    Really like the thunderous idea though! Cool little piece with deck all the deck fixing.
    Also, for those of you who are interested in the deck for standard, enigma drake is an all star in it. Where you play a turn or 2 slower than the modern version, popping out a 6/4 flyer for 3 cmc on turn 5 usually puts up a fight against Lyra

    • @christiansykes6337
      @christiansykes6337 6 років тому +3

      Austin Blankenship but Lyra has first strike?

    • @austinblankenship7631
      @austinblankenship7631 6 років тому

      should have included *with warlord's fury, also unsummon is very important

  • @guillermocortes4415
    @guillermocortes4415 6 років тому +4

    You could play the non-budget version on a stream. It looks AWESOME and might 5-0 a league if the budget version did so well

  • @WhiteSmithGames
    @WhiteSmithGames 6 років тому

    dude... i love his voice so much, it's like a most reassuring thing on the world lol

  • @Sabortooftigar
    @Sabortooftigar 6 років тому

    Hella slow probably but potential for riverwise augur or jace to brainstorm thunderous back on top?

  • @chickenfinger2920
    @chickenfinger2920 6 років тому

    Are there any new cards from guilds of ravnica that would be a good fit in this deck?

  • @shizzle559
    @shizzle559 6 років тому

    I'm gonna build this sweet deck but what would be the first cards taken out for upgrades

  • @drahydra
    @drahydra 6 років тому

    At 25:21 I was cringing thinking that the soul scar mage would cause the strangleroot to come back. Interesting to see that didn't happen. Is there a reason for that?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Strangleroot Geist cares about +1/+1 counters.

  • @jackpabich763
    @jackpabich763 6 років тому

    What are good bounce spells for the SB? It seems Leyline of Sanctity would be devastating for this deck as this deck has a large burn aspect to it.

  • @spcld2k
    @spcld2k 6 років тому

    Do you think Nimble Obstructionist would have a home in this deck? Maybe in the side board.

  • @Fruehlingspaechter
    @Fruehlingspaechter 5 років тому

    Hello!
    Thank you for the fun video!
    I have decided to build a version of this budget deck as my first modern deck and i really want to make use of Dreadhorde Arcanist. Getting to cast all those cantrips and Lightning Bolts again for free from the graveyard seems really fun and powerful to me. The question that I have is: What cards should i cut?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +1

      I would probably cut a couple of Sages and maybe a Thunderous Wrath or two (just because it's too expensive to flashback with Arcanist).

  • @leegammon1267
    @leegammon1267 6 років тому

    Awesome deck Seth

  • @snedthedead
    @snedthedead 6 років тому

    Wouldn't monastery swiftspear be better than the ghitu lavamancer? It feels like it's dealing would be way higher. I get the feeling it is budget constraints, because otherwise I don't see the reason for the lavarunner over swiftspear

  • @KleytonT
    @KleytonT 6 років тому

    Could this be a Voidmage Prodigy deck? Maybe from the SB against some specific matchups?

  • @Akuyuye
    @Akuyuye 6 років тому +1

    Somethingi been wondering, is the gray line with the stats of the deck from the game endless legend? it looks really familiar, also that the deck i been working on my budget modern, didnt knew about that blue wizard scry 4.

  • @PeteDoesGames
    @PeteDoesGames 6 років тому +3

    At around 25:33 shouldn't that strangleroot geist have come back? Since it hits the yard without +1/+1 counters? As far as I remember -1/-1 negates +1/+1

    • @seanhenry5167
      @seanhenry5167 6 років тому +5

      pete123 counter cancelling happens as part of checking state based actions, but in the order state based actions are checked, the creature would die before the counters cancel therefore it doesn't undie.

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx 6 років тому +2

      pete123 persist explain it better
      6/7/2013: If a creature with persist that has +1/+1 counters on it receives enough -1/-1 counters to cause it to be destroyed by lethal damage or put into its owner's graveyard for having 0 or less toughness, persist won't trigger and the card won't return to the battlefield. That's because persist checks the creature's existence just before it leaves the battlefield, and it still has all those counters on it at that point.

  • @raistrose7773
    @raistrose7773 6 років тому

    Needed a Pyroclasm effect in the board.
    Also probably don't need Sage or Wrath. Might be better off with more Aggression?

  • @giuliogima
    @giuliogima 6 років тому +1

    Amazing deck

  • @francescogulisano2917
    @francescogulisano2917 6 років тому

    Everytime you got to turn 6 with thunderous blast in hand for the lethal I could hear ACDC's Thunderstruck playing in my head

  • @Repaurcas
    @Repaurcas 6 років тому

    14:30 2 thought-knots on turn 3

  • @TheRealZerve
    @TheRealZerve 6 років тому

    Any reason to play Burst Lightning over Thunderous Wrath? Burst Lightning's normally castable 2 damage for R, or kicked 5 damage for 4R, versus Thunderous Wrath's normal cast of 5 damage for 4RR, and the restrictive miracle case for 5 damage for R. You could then drop the Sage of Epityr and run a Delver or something instead.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Burst Lightning is a good cards, five for one mana is a lot though.

  • @thomasmonks5715
    @thomasmonks5715 5 років тому

    I'm so building this in paper, awesome deck dude

  • @nicklittle8399
    @nicklittle8399 6 років тому +1

    23:52 Lol, Stormtamer,

  • @TheRedEyeChannel
    @TheRedEyeChannel 6 років тому

    Adding white not only adds lightning helix but boros reckoner and reflector mage. As f or upgrades you didn't mention Grim Lavamancer or baby jace.

  • @aorusaki
    @aorusaki 5 років тому

    Woooah seems suuuper spicy! Never seen this card used b4 outside of casual haha

  • @LichlordP
    @LichlordP 6 років тому

    Would anyone consider switching Sage of Epityr with Delver of Secrets?

  • @Somuntioalt
    @Somuntioalt 6 років тому

    Hi guys! Now with the Guilds of Ravnica reprints, the shocklands are going to be way more affordable. Do you think it is worth to swap those for the Shivan Reef even if I don't have fetches for the moment?

    • @Jeepod
      @Jeepod 6 років тому

      Yes cause of sulfur falls triggers for untapped :)

  • @cloysterd
    @cloysterd 6 років тому +3

    Every time I see Hollow One I'm like, "Oh yeah, somehow that still isn't banned".

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +2

      It's not always as insane as it looked in that match, still very strong though.

  • @funnydubby6401
    @funnydubby6401 6 років тому +5

    Let’s just remember that Seth killed more people this video with thunderous wrath that I’ve scene the card in actual legit decks...

  • @Ankei74u
    @Ankei74u 6 років тому

    Why not noxious revival to combo with wrath?

  • @slayerofmankind
    @slayerofmankind 6 років тому +1

    Hey Seth I built a deck based on this exact theme but its called 8 bolt or 9 volt battery it uses also delver to fly control plus a little expedia cards also I run only 17 lands plus two are the new ixalan strip mine also it has a couple fetchs with some white black splash using fatal push path to exile also some silence plus wizards retort to be modern legal counterspell plus some stubrn denials also a few side spells desgin around control and using agro draw I was think of making less mana heavy by adding mox opals mox ambers and if drawing out niv mizzet curiosity combo with laboratory maniac also some other turn 3 turn 4 auto kill

    • @slayerofmankind
      @slayerofmankind 6 років тому +1

      8 bolt battery: Wizards 8 bolt deck tech
      Maindeck (60)
      4 Ghitu Lavarunner
      4 Siren Stormtamer
      2 Ghitu Chronicler
      2 Merfolk Trickster
      1 Naban, Dean of Iteration
      2 Silvergill Adept
      2 Timestream Navigator
      2 Adeliz, the Cinder Wind
      1 Naru Meha, Master Wizard
      2 Storm Sculptor
      2 Tempest Caller
      2 Academy Journeymage
      1 Firefist Adept
      4 Lightning Bolt
      4 Wizard's Lightning
      4 Wizard's Retort
      1 Arch of Orazca
      4 Field of Ruin
      3 Island
      1 Memorial to Genius
      1 Memorial to War
      3 Mountain
      4 Sulfur Falls
      4 Unclaimed Territory
      Sideboard (15)
      1 Naban, Dean of Iteration
      2 Shaper Apprentice
      2 Kopala, Warden of Waves
      1 Naru Meha, Master Wizard
      1 Seafloor Oracle
      1 Prying Blade
      1 Silent Gravestone
      1 Azor's Gateway
      1 Sorcerous Spyglass
      1 Helm of the Host
      1 Primal Amulet
      1 Gilded Lotus
      1 The Immortal Sun
      Shared via TopDecked MTG www.topdecked.me/decks/08b7cbe3-92e7-4f9b-99cd-7c3cd61fc575

    • @slayerofmankind
      @slayerofmankind 6 років тому +1

      I would like to mode it more for more speed and maybe more this was one of my first drafts of this deck but there are so many different things one can do with more colors too so I'm still not sure how strong it would be to have a rainbow control aggro wizard tribal overkill by adding the few other cards I was mentioning plus maybe a more try turn one win with a semi affinity side theme with a mix of karn also o was thinking of building a rainbow karn with the color artifact lands with darksteel cidel plus other artifacts that have etbs for artifacts and makes creatures get bigger for each artifacts plus some control affinity creatures for 2 instead of 6 or 8 plus also mimics with 0 mana creatures and tons of moxes with only one mana control like push bolt path and mostly in trying to build a deck that if modern legal also would be both tier 1 modern and legacy vintage deck also a nickname it woukd be called modern day legacy a deck legal in both competitions and be viable so even new kids to legacy who never seen most of the cards can be able to beat power nine and never playing a single one of them which if did would become the deck of decks and shall never be play for it would make anyone hate magic but not at the same time for its nickname of the deck could be I hate magic ☺ just to be a like a meme theme deck were even a turn 0 deck would win I would just switch in control till I got what I want but still play a game of chance for any top deck card can be gg so it's like a joke in itself

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Spicy!

  • @Enditoren
    @Enditoren 6 років тому

    Shouldnt soul-scar mage remove the counters from the strangleroot and then it would come back by its own? What am i missing?

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx 6 років тому

      Enditoren
      6/7/2013: If a creature with persist that has +1/+1 counters on it receives enough -1/-1 counters to cause it to be destroyed by lethal damage or put into its owner's graveyard for having 0 or less toughness, persist won't trigger and the card won't return to the battlefield. That's because persist checks the creature's existence just before it leaves the battlefield, and it still has all those counters on it at that point.

  • @alexanderstojanow3773
    @alexanderstojanow3773 6 років тому

    Great deck! I also think there are some great non-budget upgrades you can include, like Snapcaster Mage

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      There's a non-budget list in the article! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-98-57-tix-thunderous-wizards-modern (I does include Snapcaster, apart from improving the mana it's the best upgrade you can make).

  • @luliby2309
    @luliby2309 6 років тому

    As someone who's played some Izzet prowess filled goodness in Modern, yeah I can agree that it can be a beating.

  • @urfavoritejoel
    @urfavoritejoel 6 років тому +5

    Games - 8:10

  • @o8240000
    @o8240000 6 років тому

    Should people start playing declaration in stone again hollowed one?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      That is a good answer to get rid of bunch of them.

  • @jarheadanifoogam2583
    @jarheadanifoogam2583 6 років тому

    Wouldn't monastery swiftspear be better than lavarunner?

    • @TheQueerLeaf
      @TheQueerLeaf 6 років тому

      JarHeAd anifoogam budget option

  • @davidberkowitz7411
    @davidberkowitz7411 6 років тому +1

    What are the chances of getting the non buget wizards video? Or maybe a legacy version?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      There's a pretty good chance we play the non-budget build on stream at the very least.

  • @elizakleinman1332
    @elizakleinman1332 6 років тому

    8:09 for gameplay

  • @rexone9564
    @rexone9564 6 років тому

    I love this deck!

  • @Harmon1988
    @Harmon1988 6 років тому

    what would a non-budget version of this look like? can you make a video just for me to see what it would look like? I have almost all the expensive lands and stuff on paper and the deck looks like fun

  • @kal54321
    @kal54321 6 років тому

    I might try this with Temporal Mastery.

  • @philippe5764
    @philippe5764 6 років тому

    Standard Wizard prowess can be Just as explosive as thunderous wizards?

  • @R1S3_0F_D3ATH
    @R1S3_0F_D3ATH 6 років тому +2

    No baral or goblin electromancer?

    • @sebastiantorres76
      @sebastiantorres76 6 років тому +2

      Michael Helton you're not casting many spells with colorless in their cost except raw thunderous and a couple chart a course. Doesn't do much when most spells are a single blue or red only

    • @rojo101290
      @rojo101290 6 років тому +1

      Or you know.... DELVER OF SECRETS!

    • @kylerocco7467
      @kylerocco7467 6 років тому

      Check the creature count 20+ creatures is to many to play delver. Delver feels bad if you aren't playing at least 45% of your deck being flips

    • @millie-max-moo
      @millie-max-moo 6 років тому +1

      Ronald Salazar Delver is only a Wizard on its front side...

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Most of our spells are one mana so Electromancer and Baral don't really do all that much for us, plus they don't have very aggressive bodies.

  • @robertmather6446
    @robertmather6446 6 років тому

    Loved the Wizard's Lightning with only on untapped land in the face of the Chalice of the Void.

  • @Hero-er9oj
    @Hero-er9oj 6 років тому

    I like the deck, hoping for a modern knight deck with Dominaria cards as well

  • @AiX39
    @AiX39 6 років тому

    First Game at 8:10

  • @owendeutsch6946
    @owendeutsch6946 6 років тому

    why are all of the tolkens 2/2's

  • @fanhoop187
    @fanhoop187 6 років тому

    seth continuing his roll of winning with jank burn spells in modern!!!!

  • @benblatz8558
    @benblatz8558 6 років тому

    Noxious revival some loot affect trigger miracle?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Putting Thunderous Blast back on top of the deck seems fun.

  • @theeldritchnerd8495
    @theeldritchnerd8495 6 років тому

    I agree with mutangenic growth also like temur battle rage

  • @flipwhatthezipp4609
    @flipwhatthezipp4609 6 років тому

    I feel like a thunderous wrath in the opening hand is the best for the sheer fact if you do flood out you at least have something to play late game

  • @Nathan-lw3nd
    @Nathan-lw3nd 6 років тому +1

    Looks cool!

  • @iuribarbosa3139
    @iuribarbosa3139 6 років тому

    Why not delver of Secrets?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Delver is weird in the deck. The biggest problem is that once it flips it isn't a Wizard anymore and when it's not flipped it fairly underpowered.

  • @pietroboni2553
    @pietroboni2553 6 років тому +1

    42:45 As Garfield intended

  • @viktorcz3709
    @viktorcz3709 6 років тому

    Super nice!

  • @RavebirdRock
    @RavebirdRock 6 років тому

    Why not Flame slash instead of roast in sideboard?

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 6 років тому

      AntiheroFOREVER roast can take care of angler, smasher and tassigur

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Yeah, five damage is actually pretty helpful against certain creatures in the format.

  • @TRTSMTT
    @TRTSMTT 6 років тому

    42:20 that ridiculousness :D

    • @TRTSMTT
      @TRTSMTT 6 років тому

      BTW super nice. now I can upgrade my Standard Wizards into Modern Wizards every Tuesday for Modern Tournaments.
      Also, I always wanted to play Thunderous Wrath, it was just lying around in my collection

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Hollow One living the dream.

  • @sebastiantorres76
    @sebastiantorres76 6 років тому

    Needs mutagenic, staticaster, and needed to side in roast against mono green to deal with the x/4's and 5's

  • @stephenhousman6975
    @stephenhousman6975 6 років тому

    Remember that spectral is actual a cmc 6 so stroke can hit it also. Obscure rule be it is relevant.

  • @SkiSummer
    @SkiSummer 6 років тому

    Seth I think you're overselling this list. Going toe to toe with some of the best decks in the format. The deck was crushed by hollow one, and performed okay vs eldrazi tron. You beat a couple of rogue decks with some good draws. The deck needs snapcasters, mutagenic growths and thunderous wrath and some one drops trimming. Then I would be happy to see it fair against some tier one decks again. But in it's current state, it's fnm playable :)

  • @dantran3087
    @dantran3087 6 років тому

    I love this deck

  • @xavisimon3095
    @xavisimon3095 6 років тому

    I think sage was insane.
    At least 2 maches was almost muligan hand with a Sage, and finishes on "I topdeck what I want"

  • @Zenondikar
    @Zenondikar 6 років тому +1

    Noxious revival and mutagenic growth would be great for this deck

  • @timbusbee1483
    @timbusbee1483 6 років тому

    Upgrade version for the stream

  • @hexsoNNNN
    @hexsoNNNN 6 років тому

    flame of keld seems like a good addition !

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому +1

      It's a little weird with all of the cantrips since we're not as empty-handed as some decks, but it could be sweet.

  • @robertmather6446
    @robertmather6446 6 років тому

    I built a deck similar to this, but with less creatures. Wee Dragonauts and Mutagenic Growth is pretty brutal.

  • @ZorrosRage
    @ZorrosRage 6 років тому +2

    Maybe instead of Sage at 1 maybe delver yah its not a wizard after a flip but still a good card

    • @Outlaew
      @Outlaew 6 років тому

      There are so many creatures in this deck that Delver flipping would be to low. Sure Delver is powerful but Sage is going to be much more consistent value.

    • @ZorrosRage
      @ZorrosRage 6 років тому +1

      Outlaew that's true the creature count is high. Maybe Siren Stormtamer or . It's a solid 1drop that would help. Spellweaver Eternal looks fun for 2 drop also

    • @einhorn303
      @einhorn303 6 років тому

      Yeah, I'm playing this deck in Standard and Siren Stormtamer is awesome. So key for protecting Adeliz.

  • @createchannel3542
    @createchannel3542 6 років тому +1

    I’m not correcting but I always pronounce her name, add-ILL-ez (am I wrong?)

  • @alexpoobum
    @alexpoobum 6 років тому

    blood water entity from hour of devastation for the miracle spell, i know its not a wizard but you could miracle each turn

    • @JoeNokers
      @JoeNokers 6 років тому

      alexpoobum miracle is only the first card your draw each turn

    • @fitu87
      @fitu87 6 років тому

      Sir, you're EVIL

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 6 років тому

      Jake Townend it wouldn’t matter. It puts the card on top of your library. Just make sure you use

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 6 років тому

      alexpoobum unfortunately, it’s just a 1 time use. I honestly think noxious revival would be the better card here.

    • @alexpoobum
      @alexpoobum 6 років тому

      yeah you miracle it earlier in the game or whatever then you blood water it and draw it next turn as a miracle again... also the prowess and flying are good

  • @j.s.8780
    @j.s.8780 6 років тому

    Why no Wizard's Retort?

    • @JoeNokers
      @JoeNokers 6 років тому

      John Seigo it's basically a burn deck, wizards retort slows it down and doesn't really help the deck at all

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 6 років тому

      John Seigo the better question is: why no wizard’s retort in the sideboard?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  6 років тому

      Double blue is actually tricky for our budget manabase.

  • @lawfullyblind8403
    @lawfullyblind8403 6 років тому

    New from Nabisco, it's eldrazi Tron nuts! You're pain is delicious!