The solar panel bounce (1:00) is incredibly dangerous as there isn’t much of a gap between the two, you can’t count your strides properly, meaning there’s a 99.9% chance you’ll fall off or have a refusal or anything along them lines.
if you walked the striding of the double and kept the horse on a short canter stride it would be very easy to do. which is why many of the riders did do it.
I will never understand riders whose horses badly crash through a fence and by the grace of God they manage to not fall off and yet they immediately take off at a gallop again without even checking to see that their horse is ok. That's not ok.
Because the sport has become about WINNING...and entertaining the public..with spectacular wrecks.....not about horses and riders skills and safety. We no longer breed and sell horses to upper level eventers.
Nonsense. Eventing has been UTTERLY homogenized. These fences-unlike in prior decades-have frangible pins. Meaning THESE FENCES COME DOWN and just as readily as showjumping fences. The FEI radically modified the “endurance phase” in response to exhaustion deaths and the ensuing public outcry. Today’s 4-5 star cross country is little more than long-form show jumping with trees. Unfortunately, all this adjustment has truly engendered is a lowering of standards. Horses and riders competing at 4 and 5 star levels today would NEVER have made the cut 20 years ago. More horses and riders are getting hurt (even dead) today because they are not being properly tested up the ranks. I think we’re not long from the days one might catch-ride a cross country round as routinely as an AO Hunter round. Eventing is supposed to be hard. It’s supposed to be a REAL TEST of horsemanship. My feeling is that by dumbing it down, the FEI has only made it less testing and MORE dangerous.
@@joe7965”the horse deserved to be whipped”??? Ok animal abuser. Ever think maybe the horse just found the obstacle too difficult or wasn’t given enough time to read it properly, and stopped out of self preservation? So you think horses should be beaten for trying to save themselves from a bad fall? It’s not like the horse was misbehaving or acting out on purpose. It’s people like you who should have NOTHING to do with horses
The bounce jumps coming down a hill is terrible on the course designers part. There shouldn’t be bounces that big and wide period. Having it coming off of a hill when the horses already have that much momentum is just stupid and insanely dangerous 😢
If you are not capable of that question, then you shouldn’t enter or think you can ride at that level. Badminton is a true 5*. Or from what i’ve seen of so called 5* elsewhere, they should be downgraded or Badminton upgraded. Sadly WC and Olympic competitions are run over 3* courses to give the less able nations a chance. Which turns a great sport into a dressage competition.
@@lulabellegnostic8402 No, that's not how it works. 5* questions should be difficult but not actively dangerous. No matter what * you're at, the point is to challenge the horses, not to kill them.
Took me a long time (at a MUCH lower level of competition) to realize it's a choice: is a horse a piece of equipment, or a living being to have a relationship with?
The rider on the white horse at the start, should have retired, or at check on the horse. Instead he just sat up and kicked the horse to get it going… not a good sportsman 😡
Nothing about this is impressive that horse was clearly exhausted coming into this fence . Would’ve been impressed if the rider did the right thing and pulled up prior.
Best falls and refusals it was some of the worst riding and care for your horses I've seen and it's put me off ever watching again until Oliver Townend gets a ban. We are having to deal with protesters in racing and films like this will put Eventing on their list.
I looked it up and apparently he was 'just winded' but if your horse is so tired it can't even try to jump the last fence you were certainly not ready for a competition of this level
Holy heck..... Those 2 falls at the roll tops were seriously scary for the horses.😳 That's how necks get broken. 😧 I honestly think the course designer's are get the corner jumps so tight. Not much room between the white & red flags. 🤔
@@lulabellegnostic8402 no one said that we are trying to jump the fences we are saying that the amount of falls this fence caused is sad and puts the horses in a lot of danger
Falls and refusals are your clear sign that what you are making a horse do is something he is not naturally supposed to do and it is WRONG. I have owned and trained horses for 45 years and this is the most cruel thing you can do to a horse because it is not natural things a horse would do unless they had NO CHOICE ! Which is what this is they are forced to do this. But that does not even cross your selfish minds. What goes on during training behind the scenes in these high end money making stables is sad to watch. I have seen it first hand. Not all are in this category because there are some that do this for fun at lower level shows that the horse can easily do but alot of these so called high level trainers are only concerned about is prestige and money.😡 If the horse can no longer perform due to injuries that this event causes, they are thrown away like trash by these so called horseman or bred so they can mess up another animal. I have seen this too!!! It makes me and many other horse people sick . More than you know. HOrses are God's creation and God knows what you do and you will have to answer to God in the end.
Some truly disgusting riders and riding going on here. Mollie Summerland (UK) stands out in particular but is by no means alone although whipping a frightened horse is about a bad as it gets. When a horse falls almost breaking its neck riders try to scramble back up to continue what kind of lack of animal welfare is this. Horses that fall should be instantly disqualified. Let's end eventing once and for all. Tired of seeing horses injuring themselves during extremely traumatic falls. Obviously inventing cannot improve its animal welfare record, the obastacles are no safer than they've ever been. Let riders throw themselves off a cliff see how that turns out but leave the horse alone.
Horse is 7:21 is lame. Rider should have never rode horse. No telling how many of these horses are actually "sound" without bute. The way these people push their horses is insane. Rich people get away with Rich things.
Man müsste meinen, dass die Reiter sowohl als auch die Zuschauer alle Sadisten sind. Wer seinem Pferd so etwas antut, der sollte im nächsten Leben als Springpferd auf die Welt kommen und die selben Qualen erleiden müssen, wie die Pferde im Leben zuvor erleiden mussten.
The UK unfortunately seems to have a decline in good riders lately. Both Molly and Alexander terrible. Molly whipping in anger because he didnt jump down a probably 6ft ditch into the water and Alexander who's horse saved his ass on the first slip whipped it then didn't pat it well down when he did come off like many others did.
These aren't the best it's honestly disturbing that you think this is okay this is 110% of you I can never understand riders that push your horses this phone it's incredibly disgusting and these people are probably going to go to hell because they don't even check on their horses after they fall and crash through stuff they could have potentially broken a bone or pulled something but nope we just got Gallup off so we can win f****** money y'all are geniuses and care about your horses so much
Wenn ich diese Quälerei sehe, hoffe ich immer, dass die Reiter in ihrem nächsten Leben als Sport-Springpferd zur Welt kommen... und den selben Kurs durch leiden müssen, wie ihre Pferde im Leben zuvor.
The only fence there should be it s a huge wall stopping a "sport" based on exploiting horses just for the ego fullfillment of rich bratts or to make money out of the skin of noble animals using as an excuse the sentence "love for horses", "horses love doing it"..but never had a choice to decide. What a bunch of inchoerent bratts exploiters of animals and workers this discipline is made of...
Mission Gold Millionengeschäfte auf dem Rücken der Pferde. Da gibt es auch eine gute Dokumentation dazu. Ich hoffe jedenfalls immer wenn ich diese Quälerei im Springen und in der Vielseitigkeit sehe, dass die Reiter in ihrem nächsten Leben als Springpferd zur Welt kommen... und den selben Kurs durch leiden müssen, wie ihre Pferde im Leben zuvor.
The solar panel bounce (1:00) is incredibly dangerous as there isn’t much of a gap between the two, you can’t count your strides properly, meaning there’s a 99.9% chance you’ll fall off or have a refusal or anything along them lines.
Did you walk the course, dear? Clearly not as you were not capable or qualified to compete. Leave the fence criticism to the professionals, love.
The course was an utter disgrace, so many falls.
if you walked the striding of the double and kept the horse on a short canter stride it would be very easy to do. which is why many of the riders did do it.
Agreed, it was a shocker of a fence - pun somewhat intended.
I’m glad to see the horse walk away from it on all 4 legs, that looked horrible
1:28 holy fuck that was so irresponsible, swallow your ego and bail and check the horse's legs
I will never understand riders whose horses badly crash through a fence and by the grace of God they manage to not fall off and yet they immediately take off at a gallop again without even checking to see that their horse is ok. That's not ok.
Completely agree 😥💔
Agree. It has never really been about horses but about money and winning.
Because the sport has become about WINNING...and entertaining the public..with spectacular wrecks.....not about horses and riders skills and safety. We no longer breed and sell horses to upper level eventers.
Nonsense. Eventing has been UTTERLY homogenized. These fences-unlike in prior decades-have frangible pins. Meaning THESE FENCES COME DOWN and just as readily as showjumping fences. The FEI radically modified the “endurance phase” in response to exhaustion deaths and the ensuing public outcry. Today’s 4-5 star cross country is little more than long-form show jumping with trees. Unfortunately, all this adjustment has truly engendered is a lowering of standards. Horses and riders competing at 4 and 5 star levels today would NEVER have made the cut 20 years ago. More horses and riders are getting hurt (even dead) today because they are not being properly tested up the ranks. I think we’re not long from the days one might catch-ride a cross country round as routinely as an AO Hunter round. Eventing is supposed to be hard. It’s supposed to be a REAL TEST of horsemanship. My feeling is that by dumbing it down, the FEI has only made it less testing and MORE dangerous.
Cough *Townend* cough
Mollie Summerland got a yellow card for over use of the whip!
Thank God! That was infuriating to watch. There was absolutely no reason to whip that horse like she did.
I hope you mean "card"... but yes, pretty hard to watch that level of use of the whip.
@@AmazonEventerThe horse deserved to be whipped, but not the way she did it.
Good! She was way overzealous ! Sometimes we ask too much of the horse and simply say no !
@@joe7965”the horse deserved to be whipped”??? Ok animal abuser. Ever think maybe the horse just found the obstacle too difficult or wasn’t given enough time to read it properly, and stopped out of self preservation? So you think horses should be beaten for trying to save themselves from a bad fall? It’s not like the horse was misbehaving or acting out on purpose. It’s people like you who should have NOTHING to do with horses
The bounce jumps coming down a hill is terrible on the course designers part. There shouldn’t be bounces that big and wide period. Having it coming off of a hill when the horses already have that much momentum is just stupid and insanely dangerous 😢
If you are not capable of that question, then you shouldn’t enter or think you can ride at that level. Badminton is a true 5*. Or from what i’ve seen of so called 5* elsewhere, they should be downgraded or Badminton upgraded. Sadly WC and Olympic competitions are run over 3* courses to give the less able nations a chance. Which turns a great sport into a dressage competition.
@@lulabellegnostic8402 It’s not about not being capable it’s about the dangers for the horses.
@@lulabellegnostic8402 even the best riders make mistakes and that puts the horses at risk of death
@@lulabellegnostic8402 No, that's not how it works. 5* questions should be difficult but not actively dangerous. No matter what * you're at, the point is to challenge the horses, not to kill them.
@@EvanBear Exactly!
Course designers should be held accountable. There is no need for dangerous jumps.
Took me a long time (at a MUCH lower level of competition) to realize it's a choice: is a horse a piece of equipment, or a living being to have a relationship with?
Some of these fences are actively dangerous for horses. Who came up with that course?
Idk but something needs to change before more horses are injured or killed 😥
@@EmmieandQueen I found out who came up with it, it was Eric Winter. He's a terrible course designer.
The drop and gap at 7:07 is insane. It's a matter of time until someone breaks a foreleg on that.
The rider on the white horse at the start, should have retired, or at check on the horse. Instead he just sat up and kicked the horse to get it going… not a good sportsman 😡
He kept riding until his poor horse plowed through a jump and was forced to retire by the judges :/
Thats Oliver Townshend... he's not got a god reputation for caring for his horses... this is why !!! 😤😤😤😤
I thought that was who that was.
Oliver Townsend makes me mad sometimes with how he treats his horse's I'm surprised he hasn't been banned from the sport yet
Nothing about this is impressive that horse was clearly exhausted coming into this fence . Would’ve been impressed if the rider did the right thing and pulled up prior.
Hmm, don't like that Mollie Summerland ... person, beating her horse
What time frame?
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4:50
Best falls and refusals it was some of the worst riding and care for your horses I've seen and it's put me off ever watching again until Oliver Townend gets a ban. We are having to deal with protesters in racing and films like this will put Eventing on their list.
4:38 that just must have been one of the hardest combos
Eventing has become an equine blood bath.😢
The man on the grey horse about 1minute 27secs in should of stopped there the horse key looked like it hurt itself that just wasn’t fair to keep going
3:18 this was a really bad fall i hope the horse and rider are alright
They were ok
0:55 this is the most stupid jump
The horse of katrin khoddam hazrati (Austria) is visible lame. And she keeps sitting on it. Whats wrong with all this riders !?? -.-
4:51 whyy wip your horse???
Shame on you Mollie!
7:04 again why use a wip
Does anyone have an update on the horse at 8:20?
No death record so I assume he's fine
Do course designers get extra points for fatalities?? I can't bear to watch this anymore!!
That guy the white horse doesn't even check to see if his horse is hurt
These courses seem to be targeting the stock factor for the audience....not a fair test of the horses. Makes me sick to watch.
I would not put my horse through this shit
Bro that horse on 8:16 def died…
I looked it up and apparently he was 'just winded' but if your horse is so tired it can't even try to jump the last fence you were certainly not ready for a competition of this level
I agree, the leg twitches mean a neck break.
The horse did NOT die. It was extremely tired. Should have been pulled up long before that fence 😢
Eventing has become disgusting to watch!
That was Vitorio Du Montet. He did not die and was able to walk off the course.
Their are no "best falls" of a horse and rider. Are you a sadist?
3:20 the horse definitely damage his neck, the way he wobbled away was not a good sign
Holy heck..... Those 2 falls at the roll tops were seriously scary for the horses.😳
That's how necks get broken. 😧
I honestly think the course designer's are get the corner jumps so tight. Not much room between the white & red flags. 🤔
3:40 this one..
3:35 this one I mean
Walk the course. If you have doubts you can jump the fences then you shouldn’t try to compete at this level and withdraw.
@@lulabellegnostic8402 no one said that we are trying to jump the fences we are saying that the amount of falls this fence caused is sad and puts the horses in a lot of danger
@@EmmieandQueen then explain how many good h& r combinations who were appropriately experienced jumped clear, dear.
The 2 white ones was Oliver Townsend, RIGHT.
Let’s be honest, we are all here for the water jump…
9:06 the quality for me-
Good camera rigt
the last rider is disgusting
Falls and refusals are your clear sign that what you are making a horse do is something he is not naturally supposed to do and it is WRONG. I have owned and trained horses for 45 years and this is the most cruel thing you can do to a horse because it is not natural things a horse would do unless they had NO CHOICE ! Which is what this is they are forced to do this. But that does not even cross your selfish minds. What goes on during training behind the scenes in these high end money making stables is sad to watch. I have seen it first hand. Not all are in this category because there are some that do this for fun at lower level shows that the horse can easily do but alot of these so called high level trainers are only concerned about is prestige and money.😡 If the horse can no longer perform due to injuries that this event causes, they are thrown away like trash by these so called horseman or bred so they can mess up another animal. I have seen this too!!! It makes me and many other horse people sick . More than you know. HOrses are God's creation and God knows what you do and you will have to answer to God in the end.
Some truly disgusting riders and riding going on here. Mollie Summerland (UK) stands out in particular but is by no means alone although whipping a frightened horse is about a bad as it gets. When a horse falls almost breaking its neck riders try to scramble back up to continue what kind of lack of animal welfare is this. Horses that fall should be instantly disqualified. Let's end eventing once and for all. Tired of seeing horses injuring themselves during extremely traumatic falls. Obviously inventing cannot improve its animal welfare record, the obastacles are no safer than they've ever been. Let riders throw themselves off a cliff see how that turns out but leave the horse alone.
But did the first horse die? If not I hope ur ok if it did RIP
The first horse/rider combo in the video was literally just running out, why do you think the horse died?
re there's competitors riding their own horses or on loan from a stable of horses????...
On the 2nd vid where there’s a double the last jump is way to lose from a
me: ahh the broken bridge, ahhh the egg carton ahhhh the solar rays WHAT IS THIS COUSE!?
my friend: 😮
Why would you say best when falls and fails and not good and fall can lead to death or not walking ever 😢
Horse is 7:21 is lame. Rider should have never rode horse. No telling how many of these horses are actually "sound" without bute. The way these people push their horses is insane. Rich people get away with Rich things.
BEST?😅😮
The two blue obstacles at the same time should not be allowed
People who would have just lay there if they fell
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1:13 doesnt even care about the horse
Shame horses continue to suffer in silence. So cruel
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Das hat nichts mit Sport zu tun, völlig übertrieben, die armen Pferde 😢
Man müsste meinen, dass die Reiter sowohl als auch die Zuschauer alle Sadisten sind. Wer seinem Pferd so etwas antut, der sollte im nächsten Leben als Springpferd auf die Welt kommen und die selben Qualen erleiden müssen, wie die Pferde im Leben zuvor erleiden mussten.
The UK unfortunately seems to have a decline in good riders lately. Both Molly and Alexander terrible. Molly whipping in anger because he didnt jump down a probably 6ft ditch into the water and Alexander who's horse saved his ass on the first slip whipped it then didn't pat it well down when he did come off like many others did.
These aren't the best it's honestly disturbing that you think this is okay this is 110% of you I can never understand riders that push your horses this phone it's incredibly disgusting and these people are probably going to go to hell because they don't even check on their horses after they fall and crash through stuff they could have potentially broken a bone or pulled something but nope we just got Gallup off so we can win f****** money y'all are geniuses and care about your horses so much
Because of the poorly developed couse the amount of horses that landed on there necks if horrific 😢😮
Horse abuse.
XD
Was sind das nur Unmenschen 😡😡😡die diese armen Pferde derart MISSBRAUCHEN 😢😢😢😢
Wenn ich diese Quälerei sehe, hoffe ich immer, dass die Reiter in ihrem nächsten Leben als Sport-Springpferd zur Welt kommen... und den selben Kurs durch leiden müssen, wie ihre Pferde im Leben zuvor.
The only fence there should be it s a huge wall stopping a "sport" based on exploiting horses just for the ego fullfillment of rich bratts or to make money out of the skin of noble animals using as an excuse the sentence "love for horses", "horses love doing it"..but never had a choice to decide. What a bunch of inchoerent bratts exploiters of animals and workers this discipline is made of...
Ihr riskiert echt das Leben eurer Pferde weil ihr denn Hals nicht voll genug bekommt
Mission Gold Millionengeschäfte auf dem Rücken der Pferde. Da gibt es auch eine gute Dokumentation dazu. Ich hoffe jedenfalls immer wenn ich diese Quälerei im Springen und in der Vielseitigkeit sehe, dass die Reiter in ihrem nächsten Leben als Springpferd zur Welt kommen... und den selben Kurs durch leiden müssen, wie ihre Pferde im Leben zuvor.
What if these show jumpers are reincarnated riders who mistreated their horses in previous lives 🧐 🤔 @@732Jacks