I was listening to the broadcast and apparently there was a VERY heated debate among the riders and course designers about this course design and how it would exhaust the horses in the humidity and heat ...not only that it is clearly set up for failure. The horses are notably at exhaustion point and you usually only see that with very few at the end....not well thought out at all.
Eventing has become a spectator sport instead of a "horse sport"!! Stupidly designed jumps, teeny corners and dangerous combinations that just ask for wrecks and falls. We used to hold lower level horse trials at our farm..safe and fun....now I can hardly watch some of the videos. We no longer sell horses as event prospects! Sad...and inhumane in some cases.
And it's always on the same jumps and combinations... almost like it's not the riders' or horses' faults. Almost as if the course designers need some re-education about safe and effective course making
Love watching highlights good and bad from badminton but the music in this video is giving me a headache it’s like the wii music or something 🙄 but well done to all at badminton great effort this year.
Well what a great video, what a great competition as usual and this year the added huge bonus that all souls finished safely ❤😊. Yes I agree the course is brutal but that's why the best horses and riders in the world take it on x.
Haven't seen the official footage, so I don't know for sure, but there were certainly a couple where I went, either the horse, the rider, or both, are a bit green. That said, if you're making a career out of it, there's always got to be a first time (for the riders and horses), and it's never going to be exactly like 'practice'.
THANK YOU for sharing your day, AND IS good to see nower day's thay HAVE safty pins ON the jumps .So if YOU hit them hard thay will collapse. Take care and all the best. 👍👍👍
I also noticed that one of the fences was sponsored by ‘World Horse Welfare’ which would suggest they agree with the better safety design of some of the solid fences because many times when watching previous years these fences were the ones that would bring down the horse really heavily if they made a mistake!
I love eventing, it has been my sport for 60 years but the upper admins have taken the sport away from the horse in the effort to turn it into a spectatour sport. Never has been, never will be.. There is only one way thru some of these obstacles and only the human can see it. Please GOD walk your courses, folks.
Poor horse's with riders who are unbalanced and their hands/reins position all over the place! Clearly they were not ready for this event 😕 Really happy with the adjustments to the jumps❤
@kimsutherland977 I am exactly at the level ,where I am all over the place. So, I know where I am😀. They don't and thats my point. I am currently watching rider Meghan Elphick - sorry if my spelling isn't correct 😅- go to her chanel, look how she did it, look at her horse and then you'll know the difference 😄. Have good day
Looks like alot of people were having problems with the combination on the cross- country. I am so sad I didn’t get to go, but I had to look after my father in law after he had a triple heart bypass and my mother in law has just been diagnosed with frontal lobe dementia so it has been very difficult and she has just come back home from hospital aswell she had ulcerative colitis. The last few weeks have been extremely stressful and traumatic for me and my husband. I was hoping to be able to take my autistic son to get him some goodies but I had to let him down I felt so bad. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Always love to see footage of Badminton its my favorite to watch. Learned alot watching the videos of the great British and New Zealand riders over the last 40+ years. 😁 Suprised at how many horses were looking fatigued this year.🤔 14:15 that was a very unfair question the rider tried to ask that horse. That horse had no idea where the rider wanted to go coming out of the water.🤨
I think at least some of the fatigue was probably due to the unprecedented heatwave the UK was in at the time (24 C that early in the year? wtf?); ironically, it might've been better if the timing hadn't been pushed back a week by the good ol' Beeb, not as hot, but maybe a bit wetter, which can cause its own problems with horses slipping.
De mon point de vue d'amoureuse des chevaux, mais de néophyte en matière de Cross, c'est un désastre... il est clair que certains tracés sont bien trop durs, autant pour les cavaliers que pour leurs montures... les Chevaux sont épuisés, ce qui n'est pas normal, même pour un Concours haut niveau... Les Chefs de Pistes et les Organisateurs devraient se remettre en question. Certes un Cross de ce calibre doit être difficile, mais pas à ce point. Et les conditions climatiques devraient toujours jouer sur la difficulté, les chevaux étant plus éprouvés. Bref, un bien mauvais "spectacle".
Trained by a U.S. calvary officer, I fox hunted, and evented back in 1980’s to 2000 and later judged at major events. In recent years events became money-making devices and spectator sensations not fair for horses or riders. Disgusting! Hopefully eventing will swing back to a true test of horses and riders.
Unless you're referring to something the video didn't show, I'm not really an expert, but as I understand it, most of the sections have a shorter and longer route so you can choose to take more time but present your horse with an easier 'question', or a more direct route that's more challenging (for obvious reasons, you'll mostly see people at least attempt the shorter route); he definitely presented to the first element and had a run out, and I'm not sure what the rules are these days on crossing over your own tracks, so I think rather than trying the harder route again, he went the longer route. Edit: the sudden flustered pull-up/retirement at the end of his clip I suspect is because he may have taken a wrong route and disqualified himself.
4-day events are quite tough f rider & horse . Cross Country at Badminton & Burghley are more runs in the park than a walk in the park . Show jumping at Horse of the Year , London International Horse Show , & Stuttgart Masters are tough 4-day events .
Never watched the video as although I enjoy watching Xcountry, the idea of watching 'falls and refusals' is quite gruesome. It is like someone watching F1 just for crashes.
I know that the frangible pin fences are supposed to be life saving for the horses but watching these riders ride these fences and hope like God their horses can figure it out is at this level - nothing short of disappointing... several of those riders who were eliminated and/or retired were clearly looking for a good finish score to possibly help them get on an Olympic team for Paris... one of those horses is clearly lame and the rider didn't stop... looking at the final results... I'm glad some of these people had no choice but to withdraw from the final inspection.. they should have retired xc and I hope all those horses were OK - frangible fences, trip them up... some of those horses are literally lifesavers and tried their hearts out...
4:13 That’s disgusting how they continued it fell over the poor thing and they still continued, it might have been fine but still it could have had a scare or smth
@@elizabethgrace7354 I don't think it was that serious (obviously I hope it wasn't), although she's definitely concerned because she retires and is then looking at how he's moving (as best you can while riding - I think she asks the jump judge about it as well), but I'm not experienced enough to say whether he was a bit stiff or not - he certainly didn't seem to be obviously favouring any leg.
Cross country is in needlessly dangerous sport and should be completely redesigned to something Much safer for the horse and the rider 😖😡!!! The only Two equestrian sports I support at this point our vaulting at Hunter jumping.
Whether it's for a leisurely trek on highly experienced, good natured horses or, if it's for competition on what seems to be a really mild mannered/trained horse, the chances are sooner or later there will be a nasty fall. I enjoyed the time I rode but that's it.
Probably copyright - the BBC aired it (they're why it was a week later than usual) so posting the whole thing would line you up for a copyright strike. That said, I'm not convinced this is 'fair use' since there's no critique, just music edited over the top.
I was listening to the broadcast and apparently there was a VERY heated debate among the riders and course designers about this course design and how it would exhaust the horses in the humidity and heat ...not only that it is clearly set up for failure. The horses are notably at exhaustion point and you usually only see that with very few at the end....not well thought out at all.
Eventing has become a spectator sport instead of a "horse sport"!! Stupidly designed jumps, teeny corners and dangerous combinations that just ask for wrecks and falls. We used to hold lower level horse trials at our farm..safe and fun....now I can hardly watch some of the videos. We no longer sell horses as event prospects! Sad...and inhumane in some cases.
You know trying to be safe isn’t safe safe it’s still dangerous
@@Horses_and_hobbyhorses Course designers are planning courses to please spectators with thrills and spills...not horse/rider safety.
@@jacquelynburke157 womp womp
Yes. Totally idiotism
@Imnothumanimahorse but you'd object to horseracing...
The combination in Huntsman's Close was not a fair question IMHO.
My friend on her incredibly good brave horse retired there.
The fact that this video is over 20 minute long says somthing 😬
Yeah, that it's got some padding with clips being replayed and some longer segments that aren't falls or refusals lol
And it's always on the same jumps and combinations... almost like it's not the riders' or horses' faults. Almost as if the course designers need some re-education about safe and effective course making
Love watching highlights good and bad from badminton but the music in this video is giving me a headache it’s like the wii music or something 🙄 but well done to all at badminton great effort this year.
Does yourvolume button work? Turn it down?
Well what a great video, what a great competition as usual and this year the added huge bonus that all souls finished safely ❤😊. Yes I agree the course is brutal but that's why the best horses and riders in the world take it on x.
That drop and ridiculously small corner were brutal. x
Agreed!
Nuts!
Sometimes you do think either the rider or horse should not be going round this course 🤦♀️🐎
The course designers should be required to RIDE the course before the event!!
Haven't seen the official footage, so I don't know for sure, but there were certainly a couple where I went, either the horse, the rider, or both, are a bit green. That said, if you're making a career out of it, there's always got to be a first time (for the riders and horses), and it's never going to be exactly like 'practice'.
Thank goodness they have the let-up fences these days ❤
THANK YOU for sharing your day, AND IS good to see nower day's thay HAVE safty pins ON the jumps .So if YOU hit them hard thay will collapse. Take care and all the best. 👍👍👍
I also noticed that one of the fences was sponsored by ‘World Horse Welfare’ which would suggest they agree with the better safety design of some of the solid fences because many times when watching previous years these fences were the ones that would bring down the horse really heavily if they made a mistake!
Those corners are dangerous! for both rider and horse.🤕
I used to show stadium jumpers and I stayed as far away from eventing as possible. Good way to seriously injure your horse.
Love these videos! Very interesting to see the toughest questions on course. Keep them coming for all the 5*!
If you look at Horse and Hounds video, you can see the leaderboard. It looked like only 1/3 of the horses made it to the end.
Yh that normally happens with one’s pulling up lame or retiring or elimination
Yes only 38 completed the Cross Country
That not an acceptable percent. 95% should finish and move on. It's too dangerous and ridiculous and just plain not a fair course for competition.
Incredible horses and riders
I love eventing, it has been my sport for 60 years but the upper admins have taken the sport away from the horse in the effort to turn it into a spectatour sport. Never has been, never will be.. There is only one way thru some of these obstacles and only the human can see it. Please GOD walk your courses, folks.
AMEN!! IT has become a thrills and spills, BLOOD SPORT.
Good to see a fair few bad falls avoided by collapsing fences and some riders being sensible by withdrawing
Maybe it should be a requirement for the course designers to actually be able to ride their own course.
Well done Caroline from NZ! Bowed out and also won!
Poor horse's with riders who are unbalanced and their hands/reins position all over the place! Clearly they were not ready for this event 😕 Really happy with the adjustments to the jumps❤
Another armchair expert @margarete... These riders are at the top of their game. Clearly you should hold a masterclass and show them how it's done😂😂
@kimsutherland977 I am exactly at the level ,where I am all over the place. So, I know where I am😀.
They don't and thats my point.
I am currently watching rider Meghan Elphick - sorry if my spelling isn't correct 😅- go to her chanel, look how she did it, look at her horse and then you'll know the difference 😄. Have good day
Looks like alot of people were having problems with the combination on the cross- country. I am so sad I didn’t get to go, but I had to look after my father in law after he had a triple heart bypass and my mother in law has just been diagnosed with frontal lobe dementia so it has been very difficult and she has just come back home from hospital aswell she had ulcerative colitis. The last few weeks have been extremely stressful and traumatic for me and my husband. I was hoping to be able to take my autistic son to get him some goodies but I had to let him down I felt so bad. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I'm sorry
That's not easy
You had your hands full.
That’s a lot 😓
Best of luck to you. I hope things get better for your family❤️❤️
Those corners are unfair and ridiculous!!
Some of these people look like they should not be competing with a live animal.
Eventing is a tough sport. One mistake and its over❤
Elimination is acceptable...death or mortal injury is NOT!!
These are living, breathing animals...not replaceable at the local car lot.
Think the course designers are finally getting it and the obstacles are not as inhumane as in years past.
Amazing how by all of the competitors.
Hate hate hate that music!!!
Me too, had to mute it 😖
Always love to see footage of Badminton its my favorite to watch.
Learned alot watching the videos of the great British and New Zealand riders over the last 40+ years. 😁
Suprised at how many horses were looking fatigued this year.🤔
14:15 that was a very unfair question the rider tried to ask that horse. That horse had no idea where the rider wanted to go coming out of the water.🤨
I think at least some of the fatigue was probably due to the unprecedented heatwave the UK was in at the time (24 C that early in the year? wtf?); ironically, it might've been better if the timing hadn't been pushed back a week by the good ol' Beeb, not as hot, but maybe a bit wetter, which can cause its own problems with horses slipping.
@@Baiswith Very true.....Our weather here has been crazy too. Bouncing from 5-6°c at night to 27-28°c during the day.
Cheers 😉🇨🇦
De mon point de vue d'amoureuse des chevaux, mais de néophyte en matière de Cross, c'est un désastre... il est clair que certains tracés sont bien trop durs, autant pour les cavaliers que pour leurs montures... les Chevaux sont épuisés, ce qui n'est pas normal, même pour un Concours haut niveau... Les Chefs de Pistes et les Organisateurs devraient se remettre en question. Certes un Cross de ce calibre doit être difficile, mais pas à ce point. Et les conditions climatiques devraient toujours jouer sur la difficulté, les chevaux étant plus éprouvés. Bref, un bien mauvais "spectacle".
Trained by a U.S. calvary officer, I fox hunted, and evented back in 1980’s to 2000 and later judged at major events. In recent years events became money-making devices and
spectator sensations not fair for horses or riders. Disgusting! Hopefully eventing will
swing back to a true test of horses and riders.
That guy around 6:22 was a terrible rider.
I’m so confused about the rider number 45. What really happened?
Unless you're referring to something the video didn't show, I'm not really an expert, but as I understand it, most of the sections have a shorter and longer route so you can choose to take more time but present your horse with an easier 'question', or a more direct route that's more challenging (for obvious reasons, you'll mostly see people at least attempt the shorter route); he definitely presented to the first element and had a run out, and I'm not sure what the rules are these days on crossing over your own tracks, so I think rather than trying the harder route again, he went the longer route.
Edit: the sudden flustered pull-up/retirement at the end of his clip I suspect is because he may have taken a wrong route and disqualified himself.
4-day events are quite tough f rider & horse . Cross Country at Badminton & Burghley are more runs in the park than a walk in the park . Show jumping at Horse of the Year , London International Horse Show , & Stuttgart Masters are tough 4-day events .
Did ANYONE make it clear through that horribly designed “Huntsman’s Close” with the ridiculously placed, TOO narrow set of left hand corners??
Never watched the video as although I enjoy watching Xcountry, the idea of watching 'falls and refusals' is quite gruesome.
It is like someone watching F1 just for crashes.
I know that the frangible pin fences are supposed to be life saving for the horses but watching these riders ride these fences and hope like God their horses can figure it out is at this level - nothing short of disappointing... several of those riders who were eliminated and/or retired were clearly looking for a good finish score to possibly help them get on an Olympic team for Paris... one of those horses is clearly lame and the rider didn't stop... looking at the final results... I'm glad some of these people had no choice but to withdraw from the final inspection.. they should have retired xc and I hope all those horses were OK - frangible fences, trip them up... some of those horses are literally lifesavers and tried their hearts out...
Deos anyone know if georgie campbell fall in this xx
No, that was at Bicton.
4:13
That’s disgusting how they continued it fell over the poor thing and they still continued, it might have been fine but still it could have had a scare or smth
India Wishart at 2- something minutes was the worst, horse looked like he cracked a hip the way he went after taking out the log on pins
It was a stumble. It's a fall if the horse's or riders shoulder hits the ground. And then it's instant disqualification.
@@elizabethgrace7354 I don't think it was that serious (obviously I hope it wasn't), although she's definitely concerned because she retires and is then looking at how he's moving (as best you can while riding - I think she asks the jump judge about it as well), but I'm not experienced enough to say whether he was a bit stiff or not - he certainly didn't seem to be obviously favouring any leg.
Extreme pulling on the reins by some riders!!
Oh my not goodness!! What is this event for !?? This practice to make a course is there to scare the equine and the riders. Not impressed
Cross country is in needlessly dangerous sport and should be completely redesigned to something Much safer for the horse and the rider 😖😡!!!
The only Two equestrian sports I support at this point our vaulting at Hunter jumping.
I was at the Ineos Grenadier sunken rd fence when first horse ran out.
Hang on - it says Caroline Powell, NZ, retired. Yet she went on to win! I think you have the wrong number, she is #79, not #2. 😞
She rode two horses. The horse in the video that she retired with on XC was CBI Aldo. The horse she won with was Greenacres Special Cavalier :)
@@mjheventing5131 Thank you. Its very hard to get information online. I am in NZ - equestrian events get minimal coverage here, if at all!
@@barbarathomas2561as a New Zealander the largest thing we get to see is horse of the year
2:01 did you see the way the owner was holding the reins, their hands don’t need to be that high up.
Thank god most fences are now built to collapse if they're hit!
Such bad riding and rough hands
Whether it's for a leisurely trek on highly experienced, good natured horses or, if it's for competition on what seems to be a really mild mannered/trained horse, the chances are sooner or later there will be a nasty fall. I enjoyed the time I rode but that's it.
It's like driving a vehicle - the more you do it, the more chance you'll be involved in some sort of accident (your fault or not) 😅.
Two horses dead this year!! Bloody cruel!!
RIP gorgie
The same people who are like i cant turn my horse out into a pasture or they'll hurt themselves, but yet do these jumps.
2:29
Yo I saw that one
Again and again horses at their limits and bejond. This is not fairness for the horses! The corners are in an incredible line.
Need parkland f Cross Country running . No walk in the park .
Some of the horses are way to strong for the riders.
Is this still sport or nearing horse torture ?
first!
Why do you show these? Why not rhe whole ride?
….because the whole point of the video is “best falls and refusals”, as the title states. There are other videos that will show the whole rides.
Go onto Horse and Hound or something to watch full rounds
Probably copyright - the BBC aired it (they're why it was a week later than usual) so posting the whole thing would line you up for a copyright strike. That said, I'm not convinced this is 'fair use' since there's no critique, just music edited over the top.
The music is horrible
The music really doesn’t work with the video. Good grief Charlie Brown.