Starmer Cancels Rwanda Scheme Calling It "Dead And Buried"!
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- In news that will no doubt upset Suella Braverman, the new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has told reporters in his first press conference that he has cancelled the Rwanda scheme. He called it a gimmick that isn't a deterrent.
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The tories were calling it a deterrent. I think he's simply calling out their BS. Nothing more
I think he's also talking to Reform and Tory voters to mollify them
That’s my take too. Max doesn’t miss a chance to have a go at Starmer..
That's exactly how I heard it as well. I found his speech, along with a sense of hope, impressive, to say the least.
I agree, he wasn't saying his government would support a deterrent strategy, just that the rwanda plan failed at even accomplishing that
Yes, I agree absolutely - I like Max but sometimes his reasoning is a little strained.
Am I alone in thinking that illegal immigration is not really an issue? It’s been inflated by the previous government in an attempt to make it a ‘hot issue’ - but are you bothered by it, as you’re rightfully bothered by a crumbling NHS or a lack of teachers? I’m not. The Rwanda scheme was an obscene waste of money.
I agree, but I don't live in a poor area where there are lots of asylum seekers. I can understand the resentment in those places and sadly Braverman and Farage have exploited it. I just hope that Starmer is able to find a more positive way to deal with it.
Stop calling it illegal immigration! Do you not understand international law. You lot closed down ALL of the safe routes therefore immigrants HAVE to reach these shores to apply. Use just a little bit of common sense before you make these wild statements. THEIR APPLICATION HAS TO BE REFUSED AND THEY HAVE TO REFUSE TO LEAVE BEFORE THEY BECOME ILLEGAL.
Now do you understand?
@@mrd64here's a bright idea
1. Why is asylum processing privatised?
2. Why are we dumping asylum seekers in specific areas?
3. Why do we have deprived areas?
Fixing these issues would fix the underlying conflicts, but you'll note that amongst naturalised Britons that there's more anti migrant rhetoric in areas *without* migrants than in areas with migrants
that depends on your definition of "illegal immigration". the left defines it as being in the country without being allowed to be in the country. the right defines it as everyone who isnt "invited" - so asylum seekers are illegal migrants, in the eyes of the right. "real" illegal migrants" are not a "real issue", i agree. asylum seekers on the other hand are a real issue. the reason you dont understand that, is the tory government. germany took in 1 million syrians, the uk none. germany took in 1 million ukrainians, the uk none. germany took in 500 000 afghans, the uk none etc. ... the reason asylum seekers are not "really an issue" in the uk is, that the tories refused to take them in... but how many million asylum seekers do you reckon does it take to make it a "real issue" in the uk?
hm.. my last post got autodeleted.. so ill try again: it depends on your definition of "illegal immigration". the right defines it as everyone who isnt "invited" - so asylum seekers are illegal. the left doesnt define asylum seekers as illegal. "real" illegal immigration isnt an issue in the uk, i agree - but asylum seekers are. the reason you dont see that, is the tory government.
germany took in 1 million syrians, the uk none. germany took in 1 million ukrainians, the uk none. germany took in 500 000 afghans the uk none etcetc. how many million asylum seekers do you reckon does it take to make it a "real issue" in the uk?
The Tories called it a deterrent!
That is the point he was making. It is not.
I think the point he was making is that the Tories said it would be a deterrent, but the opposite is true. I don't think he was implying that he is looking for a deterrent. In fairness, he wasn't asked.
Im hopeful, and today he has appointed some people that will know something about their job
I'm with you on this answer.
I would tend to agree with you, up to the point he continues to use the phrase illegal immigration.
@@paulbaker9879yeah for a lawyer he either used some very sloppy language or he meant it - I await to see which it is but neither is particularly useful given the way the voting actually went ...
But if you combine what he is saying, with Yvette Cooper's recent comments, you might be more sceptical. All she constantly went on about was the gangs this, the gangs that, deterrence here, deterrence there. Nothing about re-establishing safe and legal routes. This indicates to me that their policy, while not being as extreme and racist as the tories, it will be a milder form of the immoral approach of the tories
Might you be overanalysing every word? Let's give Labour some breathing time. Starmer was a lawyer in this very space so I'm going to count to 10.
He was a lawyer and and he worked with banned group Hizbut Al Tahrir
😔 sigh lol@@Panzerfaustchen
@@Panzerfaustchen Everyone is entitled to legal representation in court. Or do you disagree?
@@connclissmann6514 well there are plenty of bent Asian lawyers who could have advised them ? You know the ones who tell illegal immigrants what to say to qualify for asylum. Islamic criminals should help each other, Starmer should have used more discretion
@@Panzerfaustchen cab rank rules
A disgusting policy abolished on day one represents progress already. I do agree that the UK must now establish safe routes which will allow those seeking asylum to make their claim without risking their lives on a raft. The cruelty needs to be removed from the asylum system. Seeking refuge is not a crime.
I totally agree, the cruelty of the Tory party new no limits . Like everything in life there are ways of dealing with things that don’t stir up hate and persecution
@@michaelc3051 the safe routes already exist. The boat and truck people are not from those areas.
Refuge from where France ?
@@malcolm8564 Where do the safe routes exist already?
@@michaelc3051 Afghanistan, Ukraine, Hing Kong.
All that money, time and peoples lives wasted.
The Tories didn’t care about any of that.
Even Rwanda was not 100% on board with it. Yes the Tories wasted money, like it was going out of fashion.
Just like Brexit
It’s not money “wasted”. The Tories managed to get their kickbacks from all those contracts.
Thanks to the conservatives!!!
You cannot blame Starmer for using the words the Tories used to describe the Rwanda Scheme, He was quoting Sunak talking about the scheme as a deterent. That it has been canceled as promised it good, there should be an inquiry to address who should be held accountable for the heavy costs.
Well it certainly acted as a deterrent to making people want to vote Sunak into Downing Street given he just took on the post without anyone's say so
Talk to the French. Build the processing centre that THEY suggested several years ago as a joint scheme. This should help stop a lot of those small boats.
He knows that but will he do that, probably not.
@@joelboy19you will never stop boats asylum seekers under international law have a right to come here they are not illegal immigrants only crossing illegally so make it legal for them to purchase tickets for the going rate of tens of pounds instead of them paying criminal gangs thousands for a crappy dangerous boat crossing
Build it in France you mean. Sure they accept a flat payment without trying to hitch the fee every other year...oh wait I'm sorry they're french.
They won’t do it anymore with the far right basically rendering parliament useless
They don't have an automatic right to come here.. they're looking for Asylum... It verges on whether they are accepted or not.
I watched this press conference in full and found it a breath of fresh air to hear intelligent competent thoughtful answers instead of the usual slogans and repeated promises. I was very impressed with Starmer's performance. He has clearly been preparing these details for a long time and put in some considerable work already.
I wonder how many millions the Tories were able to get to their Rwandan contacts before they went.
Already some competent leadership I see.
HAha
@@RayD67that’s an interesting, incisive comment, which makes it clear just how much thought and intelligence you put into your reply.
@@RayD67 What's funny about it? Scrapping the Rwanda nonsense IS what any competent government should be doing. Do you disagree? Do you think they should keep that nonsense, and carry on giving loads of tax payers money to the Rwandan government whilst pointlessly trying to break international law?
@@RayD67hi Raplh, Hows Bart?
not only that but an attorney general who isn't an mp, a science minister who is a top scientist and the chair of the prison reform trust as prisons minister.
Experts doing expert things.
He's literally achieved something he said he'd do. That's more in 2 days than the tories could be arsed to do in 6 months 😂
14 years!
Correction 5 years! not 6 months.
Well that’s taxpayers money saved. No wonder the Daily Mail will hate a Labour government 😂
Mail gammons!
as far as i know, the thing was already paid for. or part of it. what tax money are saved?
@@ragael1024 well future taxpayers’ money will be saved. There won’t be any more sunk into this disastrous mess.
@@ragael1024do you think it wouldn’t have cost even more for zero results it was 120 million and counting! And that didn’t include the cost time effort to process and send even one single person let alone the proposed thousands a year!
How much money was wasted with the Ruwanda nonsense? How many people could we have helped stay in their own countries if we helped them be more stable?
More than £320m was spent on it by the Tory government.
Should be claimed back from the Tory party and in particular Braverman, Patel etc
It was Boris Johnsons bright idea so it had 'waste of time and money's written all over it.
@@joanormrod4893 Do we know which of Sunak's friends made money from the plan?
Because everyone really wants to stay in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan! How would you help them stay safely in hell holes we helped create?
Anyway I'm so happy to hear the words Labour government and PM Keir Starmer!
Sorry. We spent it all on the one refugee Sunak sent us. He had a good time here and is now back in Birmingham
A hooray for humanity 🎉
Hurray for common sh!tting sense!!
Excellent news but it's a shame they couldn't have made just one special case for the deportation of Braverman
Processing claims quickly is also a deterrent
Suella’s strop about this is not far off😂
Cruella can go pound sand🤣
It is not a difficult issue. Spend the money earmarked for Rwanda on processing migrants, send them out to work or back to their country of origin depending on the outcome of their claim- get on with it and be seen to be making a difference. Deterrence does not work against the desperate, destitute or persecuted.
I think he was saying "deterrent" simply because that was the big Tory claim.
Agreed
Now cancel Brexit
Good, welcome start
That's funny because I noticed that too but I think he meant, 'the Tories thought it up as a deterrent, i,e, that was their excuse for it but it was never a deterrent.' In other words their excuse for doing it was wrong. I don't think he means that there should be a deterrent but that is what the Tories said it was. Anyway that's how I worked it out after my initial reaction
Max i think he mentioned deterrent because that's what the Tories said it would be. Starmer is making sure we stay in the ECHR and follow international law.
The gammon will be exploding over this 😂
they are already frothing at the mouth.
Bacon fat all over Farage
I hope so.
Oh well.. Maybe they can afford a caravan in Clacton for a week, to get over it.
Gammon tears.😢
People say he is boring and has no humour....but doing this and announcing it after 6pm on a Friday is top top trolling!
Sensible politics at long last . Hallelujah .
Open borders is a sensible policy? Interesting take.
@@drmodestoesqhow is this open borders they’ve scrapped a money wasting deal that was always doomed. Day 2 millions of pounds saved.
@@drmodestoesqStarmer will not have open borders.
Stop listening to the far right Farage and his rants.
He said it was never a deterrent- isn’t that explicitly just saying that the scheme didn’t do what the Tories claimed it would do? It didn’t deter gangs and it didn’t deter dangerous channel crossings. Only processing backed by safe routes will work.
Why should we give illegal immigrants a safe passage?
Are you mad
Now, the first thing he should do is put a team of investigators together and investigate all those who became rich in the last 5years and try and get all the money or what is left of it and prosecute them.
Use that money to help the people who suffered the most during this time, help the NHS
The same for those who dumped and spoiled the rivers and waterways.
Let them pay for it.
There is so much money for the government to start and rebuild the country without using one taxpayer's penny.
Start with Mone.
Oh and don't forget the nondoms and the super-rich, let them pay the same percentage as the working class pay.
Yes police investigation if huge financial economic discrepancies are found and the Tories do not provide a solid reason as to where the money has gone.
Omg actual competence!!! Fair play Starmer
He should have the government publish the cost
I think he doesn't want half the country die of a heart attack
I wonder what backhanders were taken from all that Rwanda money, bothe here and in Rwanda.
@@johnjephcote7636 Loads, no doubt. For a start, all the housing that Braverman paid for will all now be owned by grifters in Rwanda who have no doubt learnt from the Tories.
Agreed, he should drop breadcrumbs of such things over the next, say 10 years. The Troy's were still wafling on about that daft note left saying there was no money, 15 years later. Just drip snipits in a manner to continue to bring it to people's attention
£370M so far, according to Oxford University Migration Observatory, with a lot more once up and running.
We needed that spent on housing here.
Exactly, the best deterrent is opening up safe passage to refugees and stop painting them as something to fear and instead humans to help in horrible situation and who can also becoming contributing people of our society like many refugees have before.
True and very well said- cheers!
Contribute like the London acid attacker and the Bournemouth beach stabber, nice 🤔
Whatever people In the rest of the union think about it's existence, can't deny having a prime minister that is going to work constructively with the first ministers will make a world of difference. Those working relationships being constructive are vital.
Le Pen, Wilders, the AFD, Meloni all look forward to the constructive conversations.
@@bradsmith9689the comment refers to the UK devolved nations.
The possible leadership of other countries will still need to be worked with in one form or a other. Thinking otherwise shows a lack if understanding on why there is such a thing as international diplomacy, international bodies such as the UN, NATO, EU, etc.
@@bradsmith9689 Le Pen isn't president, AFD aren't in government, Wilders Isn't premier, Schoof is. Importantly, Lammy is foreign sec, and he has actually built a network of relationships in the US, Europe and elsewhere.
Really depends on what you are working towards.
Indeed, treating the FMs as potential collaborators with a role to play. (allies in the case of Wales) is light years away from BloJo and his posturing during the pandemic.
He declined to work together with the FMs as he thought that would make the UK resemble the EU. This prick misunderstood everything, but this misunderstanding may have cost lives.
Still, "let the bodies pile high", (copyright B. Johnson)
Good move.
He wasn't talking to you Max. He was talking to people who believed in it.
Cruella in Meltdown ❤
Ol Max Headroom really needs to stop with the criminal gangs thing and take up France on their offer of processing centres there and employ loads of processing staff. Doing those things would eliminate the need for refugees to use criminal gangs if he really does want to target the so called criminal gangs the only criminal gang I know of has just left office.
I think they will also look into that Starmer has a good relationship with France so let's see
He's stop one gang of idiots at least
If only Boris did this during the Brexit start
May, Patel, and Braverman all turned it down. Leaving Europe was more important.
I hope we can get a humane system, but I do not expect overnight changes.
Or just open a legal safe route into the UK for asylum seekers they are going to come we literally called our coalition of countries "Great" Britain put great at the beginning of something its going to get a lot of attention
Well done mr PM
Its as if ppl thought ALL the immigrants would be put on one plane and taken there and dumped. Rwanda would only take 200 to start with
@ MONTY-YTNOM : And they could sent back an unspecified number of their unwanted asylum seekers, so no overall reduction in immigration to the Uk !
Didn't the person in charge in Rwanda say they would be happy to give us the money back put that to the test and see what they say when they are backed into the corner
not sure wether he said that or not, but they already spent the money.. on buildings to house the asylum seekers, for example. so they cant pay anything back, even if they wanted.
Yes, spot on. Safe and legal routes (say at our Embassies) would mean only those who failed asylum check would get into small boats (which slashes the people smugglers business model), who could then be legally returned to France.
Remember that it was Johnson’s “oven ready” Brexit deal that put us in this position
Next, two child cap, bedroom tax, prescriptions charges, higher education charges. Tax hike for the wealthy, investment in the NHS. Loads more of course. I look forward to the changes.
Definitely looking forward to paying for the 8 kids that the young lady down the road has had with 6 different lads, she earns more than me 😂
Hire a ton more officers in the processing centres, get them processed, get the vast majority who have no business being here, ie economic migrants, shipped and thrown out, one way tickets home. Job done.
Very good start from Labour, Rwanda scheme was a huge waste of money and was never gonna work
The numpties that "work" for GB 'News' are going spare over this. Good
The Tory's said it was a deterrent. He is simply calling it out as not being a deterrent.
Create safe routes it's not rocket science!!
We won't be doing that. We will just let them all in.
Passports, planes, Airports, not a safe way?
Because nobody would abuse that, right.
I guess you think it's easy to grab your passport, book an air ticket, pack your suitcase etc whilst you're fleeing from some horror?
@@threedoodlesFrance isn’t that bad. I live there.
Neither is Spain or Italy or Greece or any of the EU countries I’ve been to.
The best way to deter people from coming to the uk, is to give the a reason to stay in their own country’s. Also, when they do arrive, by whatever means, process them quickly, creating jobs here, and allowing these people to work in the uk, and contribute to the new society they are in. Plenty of jobs going in hospitality, NHS and farming. Good start Starmer. 🇪🇺🇮🇪 k
oh... thats a great idea... but how do you give them a reason to stay in their own country? i dont disagree with you, but i see absolutely no chance to make that happen.
@@MrNukedawhales Yeah, unfortunately we're a long way off world peace.
Hi Max Good Afternoon Everyone ❤
Hi Mandy
Max the way I understood the Tory used as the Rwanda scheme was to discourage the Boat people coming to UK and not bother to do proper process According the international and country law for legal immigration it did not work and did not scare the Refuge coming and because the Airlines refused to transport them after highest court in the UK deemed illegal so he right to say it was meant by the Tories to use as scare tactics and the Rwanda get paid millions of pound that was better to have being used the court system to speed up the process and grant A Refuge status those qualified and deport those did not back to their countries so Max stop creating somethings that Stamer did not say but to the meaning what the reason Tories was using this scheme doing for by covering the mistakes of their precious party member and wasting the UK tax payers money knowing it was useless to begin with.greetings from citizen of the EU 27.
Rwanda worked perfectly for a select few people making a buttload of cash from it.
Problem is people (racist malcontents) will whine even when immigration goes down, a whole political party is built on this. They are not just going to pack up, give up their seats etc. God the right are exhausting.
All people who disagree with the lefties are racist, classic statement, never gets boring 😂😂
I am sure that cash back payments were involved. It needs criminal investigation like PPE
As a Brit Pakistani, one thing that has always frustrated me about the 'immigration debate' (left and right) is how the 'immigration' issue is taken on face value and as an elision, it's never clear which, and is never properly disambiguated. We know immigration has always been a stand-in for the myriad of other issues. Brexit/Reform sentiment became a code for 'anti-immigrant' sentiment, but really it also includes recent + descendents of immigrants, and is largely a fear of 'foreign' cultures in England. There are indeed pockets of ghettoization esp in the mids/north, where there are acute problems of housing, public services, and yes also cultural in-cohesion. So let's confront and deal with all those issues on their own terms, inc. the cultural tensions.
Yes! All of these issues need to be open for discussion - and especially with the active participation of those communities you mention. Their voices need to be heard and their cultures & religions explained to those whose ignorance is deliberately turned into fear by right wing politicians and media.
I want to know which British and which Rwandan politicians stood to personally benefit from the scheme, and see the British ones (at least), if any, jailed for the scam.
I am not saying it was corruption, but I cannot see any other credible explanation for the billions spent on such stupidness.
Great move - an end to that particular Tory waste of money/corruption scheme. Next job is to reaffirm the U.K. commitment to the European Council and the rule of international law (and Starmer has already appointed a highly respected KC as Attorney General to help with that).
Max, and chance of some videos on the state of EU politics? Obviously you are in Italy, and France is in an odd state. Many thanks
The Rwanda scam was immoral. While I agree that the word “deterrent’ is completely inappropriate with respect to refugees, the problem is that a large part of the electorate are against any group, immigrants or refugees, who don’t look like them. Starmer and Labour must be very careful in their language.
He doesn't have a choice but to say what he did . Make no mistake, the far right is rising. What a difficult position to be in
Good to see ! 👍
Spot on Max ❤
I saw this, absolutely brilliant. I also noticed he said he had been talking to people for the past six months, regarding the Patrick Valance appointment. I knew he had been talking to people, I think we will see the same with Europe and Brexit.
Hooray! Suella complained that it was wasting the millions that the Tories had spent on it. Like when you send £100 to a Nigerian conman and then you send £500 so that he can 'pay to ship your millions' and continue to pay because 'I've already wasted £600 on this
The issue is that a reasonable proportion of these individuals are not assulym seekers but economic migrants. Like people coming from Morocco, Albania, or Egypt. These need to be detered
Completely ignored on here,many are criminals hiding their identity. Hide their faces when cameras on them.
You seem to have a very basic shallow understanding of refugee law and refugee realities since you automatically declare someone invalid for asylum simply based on their nationality; You don’t get to say a certain country is not at war (thus appears generally safe), therefore its citizens are ALL economic migrants.
Processing claims is done on an individual case basis. People run away for all sorts of reasons outside warzones;
For example: Fear out of racial discrimination, ethnic violence, gang violence, police targeting, political repression, anti-gay laws, transphobia and killing of transgender people, governments that punish Atheists even with the death penalty, Terrorism, membership of a party or social group, honour killings, Climate Crisis refugees, and yes a part of them are poor and moving for better jobs. But please stop this idea of thinking only Afghans or Syrians qualify for protection.
A country can be a lovely summer vacation destination for Europeans but its local citizens can face very serious dangers under dictatorship making them unsafe.
We always say “Asylum is for people experiencing war and persecution” ➡️ these two categories are widely different.
Do your research
All that's needed is to process the claims and deport those that fail whilst those who are granted refugee status can get jobs.
Well said.....can I add that we have over a million empty homes and at least 50 thousand council homes that have been empty for over a year.....No Tory ever mentioned that.
Which will also obviate the need to use hotels to house temporarily those claiming asylum. Under previous Labour govt. claims were processed in two weeks !
First fascist policy gone.
First sane thing that the British government has done in fourteen years,
We need to keep some control on immigration, but yeah, the Rwanda scheme was always mental
Well done with Ruanda!😅
England isn't listening 😂
It’s only right to keep holding Government of whatever party to account Max, but to be honest, after the sh*tshow we’ve had over the last few years, especially post Brexit and post Johnson, I’m prepared to cut Keir and Labour some slack here. Just ending the Rwanda scheme itself, an intentionally cruel policy as well as an outrageous waste of public money, is good enough for me. Let’s see what Labour’s next moves are on this. I’m just so relieved we’ve got rid of the Tories, with their corruption, scandals and lies, that I’m going to enjoy the moment while it lasts.
I really wish Starmer would 'grow a pair ' & have said we are ending Rwanda because it's inhumane & cruel
He actually already used those words many months ago.
👍
@@malcolmstockbridge2569 would have carried more weight if he used them again when he was Prime Minister or even in the recent election campaign. Blair would have done
@@SheilaBloom. and then people will jump all over him for repeating things....like my father was a toolmaker !
@@malcolmstockbridge2569 Fascists may have jumped all over him remember the new saying ' You can't out Farage Farage ' Also what have we become that we can no longer call something cruel & inhumane which is cruel & inhumane
Am I correct in saying that under the tories we’ve given Rwanda £240 million in total?
How much????
At least that. I'm not sure if more wasn't added when Rwanda sold off the accommodation.
Just read it’s just over £300 million. No flights.
@@arronstone177 The Tories have left us a cost of living crisis and wasted all that money, just think what it would have done for the NHS.
@@susannahhunt100 Exactly. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Employ enough staff to get the processing done quickly, provide processing centre in France (if the French agree to that), provide safe passage across the channel and allow these immigrants to contribute to our economy.
Fopr God's sake! He's been PM for 24 hours and already people are picking holes - "Starmer has to deliver", "Starmer has to do this", "Starmer has to do that". Can we just take a pause in our gnat's-memory-span world and wait and see what happens?
'Kier Starmer PM'- those words together continue to make me smile
Me too!
Now spell 'Keir' correctly and grin.
Kir Royal
King Kier 👑👑
Kir Royal
LABOUR made shore the RWANDA SCHEME FAILD ,THEN BLAMED THE TORIES.
If you talk to anyone who works with refugees they will tell you it is not a deterrent . These poor people have risked everything and are certainly not going to tell people who might have helped them pay for their passage that they were not willing to go the whole way. BTW I wonder how many doctors and nurses are amongst the refugees.
Us on the left should not ignore the fact that Reform got 14% of the vote. If the small boats crossing is not dealt with or stopped, the tories and Reform will gain political capital, and we can't let that happen. In alot of the marginal labour seats, reform came second.
We have to recognise that for alot of people in the UK immigration is more if a bigger issue than the cost of living, NHS, and economy. I spoke to a Reform voter who told me he was willing to be more poorer if it means immigration is stopped. I think what these people want should be delivered in order to prevent the rise of the far right.
Immigration obsessed reform voters don't care about the economy or want better living standards, all they care about is immigration, immigration, immigration.
That because they think immigration is to blame for all those other problems.
We shouldn’t let policy or humanity be driven by the lowest levels of compassion or understanding.
Rubbish
The far right media will always lie to their base though
If all migrants were “legal”
Then talk about the backlog of processing
If there is no backlog
Then just talk about the numbers of migrants overall
If migrants no longer came to the country
Talk about the people already in the country
There is no way of dealing with a fictional problem because it doesn’t exist it can’t go away
Why pander to nationalist bigots and the far right who are so very, very wrong?
Did he just basically say "It wasnt good because it wasnt horrific enough"?
No, he totally did not.
@@annphillips1086I know he didn't but it really sounded like it
@@mats66 It really didn't.
I have the ideal deterrent! Rwanda is £400m richer...for no reason at all.
Yet, the terrifying threat of sending "illegal asylum seekers" to Clacton, at a fraction of the cost to the taxpayer, the people smugglers and the taxi drivers must be a dream come true!
😂😂😂
Isn't it weird having adults in charge.
Brexit stays. That's in the Labour manifesto, everyone voting for Labour knows that and still endorsed the policy.
Thanks. from a Brexit supporter 😊
Lol man that was lame.
Give him a chance to organise the processing in France as the French originally offered to Sunak but he refused!
Prince Charles criticized the Rwanda scheme
I don't think what he said is a concern. If anything, I think he's trying to show that he will do what he said he would do - represent the electorate, whether they voted for him or not.
He's directly addressing a talking point in the right wing papers that will be on the minds of many of the people who voted - that "Labour are for open borders with no controls". This worries a lot of people (albeit unnecessarily because it's not true). By speaking on the points that concern them (& directly addressing claims in papers like the Spectator, the Hate Mail, and Telegraph that he will "promote lawlessness by not stopping people trafficking"), at his first press conference, as he does something that those papers will spin as "proof" that they were right (cancelling the Rwanda saga), he's trying to appease a wider audience.
Why? Because, yes, Labour got in, but 14% of votes went to Reform, and that shows that a lot of people are worried about immigration (not because it's actually a problem, but because the Tory press have been whipping up fear on the issue since Brexit).
The guy's a former barrister, he's trying to win over the whole jury.
I think what Starmer meant by "deterrent" is that the asylum seekers themselves would think twice to come here, not that it would stop the people smugglers.
I think that was Cruella’s claim
I assumed he was just using the same language that the Tories were using so that people know what he is on about. The Tories said it was a deterrent so he is just pointing out it didn't even do that, it doesn't mean he wants a deterrent.
Why do so many people conflate immigration with mass migration.
They are told it by the likes of Farage.,
Hell, I've heard people call it an invasion
Comments by people who live nowhere near the South coast 😂
Scare-Mongering language used by Trump, Farage and other right wing.
So far what i have seen is that Labour are showing what a real Government looks like. in comments here and on other videos ive seen surprising comments saying that Kier is showing what a real Government looks like. Will they get immigration right? well only time will tell.
Day 2 of a Labour Government, and impressed in what im seeing
Rwanda will pay for it!
The Rwanda scheme was shite. They should not be allowed to come to shore, turn the f ing boats round in the water!!!!
This is a multi national problem and must be dealt with bilaterally with the French authorities. Hopefully Starmer has the maturity to work with France on it. He did say he'd set up a 'Border Force', but we all know that illegality thrives when a legal option is removed. Legal routes would remove the market from the people smugglers immediately. Surely he knows this? Solution must be two-fold: Legal policed routes provided, plus crackdown on smuggling gangs.
This once great little island is finished.. the amount of people piling onto this island is unsustainable
He is like Joe Biden
Joe Biden never ever did follow Trump policy.
Same Starmer is doing .
For those of you who have not been listening to Starmer, it may be a shock that he wants to reduce ALL immigration (including legal).
But for those of us who have, at the end of those safe channels, we can see him implementing an effective asylum processing system that quickly returns applicants to their country of origin.
It will allow him to claim a reduction in illegal crossings and the backlog of asylum seekers.
This Prime Minister will not challenge the Rights notion that immigration is bad for the country.
This will be another victory for Nigel Farage.
They need to provide safe routes and that will stop the boats and save a fortune
he is saying deterrent because that was the language that the tories used. they considered it a deterrent, he is saying that it was never a deterrent. he isn't using the language as his own view he is using what the previous government said to justify the cancellation of the money laundering scheme.