Visiting All Sheffield Supertram Stops
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2021
- Following on from Nottingham and Manchester earlier this year it was time to go to Sheffield and tick off every stop on their Supertram network! And I invited a local who knows the system better than I do to help me out, and deliver a few facts too ....
The official Stagecoach Supertram website is here: www.stagecoachbus.com/supertram
If you want to download my map of the Sheffield Supertram network, i'll upload it to my 'downloads' page here shortly! geofftech.co.uk/downloads.html
“What are you taking photos of trams for?”
“Because they’re cool!”
AMAZING (and correct) answer, Geoff!
People who live in places with good public transport just take it for granted, which goes to show how effective it is.
Sheffield tramway is not very efficient. Headway’s are usually every hour.
@@harang9759 better than Hourly busses most towns have
@@oldtechnobodycaresabout very true, but I still do think that they could improve the headways, maybe like at least every 20-30 minutes. This would be better as Sheffield has a big population and it would attract more people to public transport.
My Sheffield friend Bliss would like to point out that your pronunciation of Rotherham was... fun
Fancy seeing you here
You're not from New York City you're from Rovvrumm
Nowt in comparison to the pronunciation of gleadless
Also who else has seen some one driving out of the tunnel as t the university looking confused
Rother-ham 🙂
I stumbled on this channel last Christmas and absolutely loved it despite no interest in trains. It's that time of year again so time for my transport video fix
Be sure to also see “All The Stations” plus Geoff’s earlier work at Londonist.
@@erik_griswold oh I watched them all 😂 kept me entertained during lockdown/furlough
Me too
Thanks Czynx, very kind. And thank you for watching! 👋
Holbrook was a mining village whose name was changed to Halfway (after the Halfway House pub) to avoid confusion with Holbrook near Derby
It is halfway between Rotherham and chesterfield and named after the old pub the halfway house which was a stagecoach stopping point.
Interesting , one does not think of Rotherham being such a kind of important town to be halfway from.
@@highpath4776 the key word being "away" , you don't want to be close
Brings back memories of being a student. The tram is way better than the bus.
PA: "This is the purple route service to Herdings Park."
Geoff: "So the PA there, did it say purple train or purple line?" 😶
it purple route not purple line or train
@@DoncasterNorthModelRailway1867 That's exactly what they were pointing out.
@@TransportofPerth Or was it?
It's so weird watching this living in London after being in Sheffield for about 15 years. I always liked how it was "The next stop *by request*"; somehow that felt somehow friendly. The same with "Haffway" - the PA never seemed to have the L in it.
I was going to comment something similar, Haffway always sounded like something from a fantasy novel. Sadly they re-recorded the announcements a couple of years back.
It was best when they got Jarvis Cocker to do the announcements in his Sheffield Sex City voice. They need to get Sean Bean to record them as well.
@@diskopartizan0850 gutting the changed it that was my favourite announcement
Does that mean you have to ring a bell like on the bus?
@@tobeytransport2802 ye though there are usually people waiting at most stops
Im a native Sheffielder who has just moved to London for Uni, I always nerd out to your videos about the tube when in London, and I’ve just returned home for Christmas, and seen this video about home!!!! The Supertram may be the one thing I love more than the tube….👀
Hey Geoff, if you are confused about the Sheffield tram-train, then you got to see Karlsruhe in Germany.
We have normal low-floor-trams, as well as low-floor tram-trains that run on DC like normal trams on older railway routes that have been reconfigured to accomodate the trams. For this purpose, we also use the Class 399 Citylink vehicles, although they are know as "NET 2012" here.
And then, we have high-floor tram-trains, that actually run on proper main lines after leaving the towns centre and work with DC (tram network) and AC (railway network).
Similar thing in The Hague, Netherlands: on a few routes, trams share tracks with railway trains and on one route, trams share tracks with a metro route, resulting in low and high platforms next to each other. (and btw, the tram/metro routes I mentioned are also former railway routes)
@@OneKnifeYeHandin Spain we have a diesel tram train by Stadler and a newer one by CAF which connects three cities on broad gauge tracks
Our tram train started a month ago in Hungary, also served by Stadler Citylink (Class 399) trains. 😁
Phil is one of the most fun traveling companions I’ve seen! 👏🏽
You may remember him from the Rawcliffe video ...
ua-cam.com/video/c8cA4FHURDY/v-deo.html
Thanks Pokhraj! 🤗
@@philipbrown4290 You were really funny 😂
He is like help me!😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂
Ok
This is probably one of my favorite 2nd gen. tram networks in the UK, especially with the tram train :)
You'll have to go down the road and do all the stops at the Crich Tramway Museum (and find the last of the original Sheffield trams)
Can't beat a good bit of Phil content! He's a walking fountain of knowledge.
Cheers Mike - glad you enjoyed it!
I've just finished university at UoS and this was so fun to watch my old city. Thanks Geoff! :)
Awesome to see you doing the Supertram - been waiting for this for a while.
The Supertram is an awesome resource in Sheffield but it so desperately needs expanding into a circle route following the ring road of the city, as well as more connections to the North and South of Sheffield.
Very cool to see my office and my local stop in a video though!
It has so much potential, but the tram train is the only major extension it has had in the last 10 years
The Abbeydale Road corridor would be an obvious example. There was also talk at one time of a short branch up Glossop Road to the Hallamshire hospital and Broomhill.
Extension along Eccy Road would be superb. As well as Abbeydale to remove lots of traffic
My ideas:
- -Red route to Dore via RHH- The idea now is to make a loop around Broomhill, could do that with the purple route
- Green route to Chapeltown via NGH (I know the map used in this video has green for the tram-train but its official colour is black)
- Orange route as a circle
The colour suggestions are not definite: TSY, SYPTE and Stagecoach can decide those.
yeah it desperately needs to go South West of the city centre and perhaps a little over the river in the North too
Merry Christmas Geoff and Phil! Love these tram videos! 😀 Stay safe, can't wait to use Soham station in the new year, my new local station! And watch your great content here on UA-cam 😄👌🚄🚈
Great video Geoff.(I guess it was fun, fun, fun on the tram, tram, trams). Joking aside this was a great video and it's great to see visuals of all the different tram routes in the UK.
Merry Xmas Matey. Thank you for the pure quality you've provided this year. Cheers. Love from Liverpool. X
Thanks geoff for your wonderful videos over the last 12 months merry xmas to you and all of your family cheer's bob from down under.
Love border anomalies (and similar nerd stuff) thanks for pointing that out.
Stay safe - though times.
Been waiting for this for months. Hope you enjoyed Sheff
Happy New Year @Geoff Marshall looking forward to the next informative video! All the best for 2022.
Nice, I'm glad u uploaded this video Geoff as I love the tram videos and I was hoping u were gonna make another one soon. U gotta make more bro!
My dad's worked on Supertram since October 1994 and still does. I did my year 11 work experience with them too. I'd have been a great person to be involved in this video. Also Herdings / Leighton road or Westfield are the two stops the are generally the least used stops. Halfway used to be called something like Holway but it changed its name many years ago.
I'd suggest Malin bridge as being up there as one of the least used. Not very far from Hillsborough interchange and there's never more than 2 or 3 people left when it leaves to head round the corner to Malin Bridge! Also not blessed with any parking etc. Perhaps those approaching along the Rivelin Valley by foot might boost the numbers though as it's the first tram stop you come to?
@@harrierjames7727 there’s a park ‘n’ ride car park at Malin Bridge!
Geoff I glad you managed to go on the Tram Train and Sheffield Supertram network after long time you ticked it off! Congratulations WELL DONE
Before the pandemic my nephew and I tried in several years to make all the stations during the Snooker World Championchip. Hope it will be again possible in 2022!
Best video I have seen on the Sheffield trams and a good look at the tram trains. Same model Stadlers due down here in Wales.
Got news I bought both of the books and they're fab. In the tube book there were lots of things I didnt know. You guys are incredible and I hope you had a good Christmas!
Ah Geoff, wish I’d know you were there! I’m originally from Sheffield and know all the stops on the Supertram system. It would’ve been great to travel with you. 😊
I was born and spent my formative years in Hackenthorpe, long before the current trams were around.
I even remember Sheffield’s original trams and my earliest memory is travelling to Millhouses Park with my mother. It must’ve been during the summer of 1960, when I was 3 years old. I intended to go in the children’s paddling pool, but it rained, so I sat in a shelter in the park with mum, and watched the trams terminating at the loop on Abbeydale Road.
On the blue line, where the reserved track starts, is an area where the Derbyshire border has changed over the past 50+ years. Areas such as Birley, Hackenthorpe and Beighton/Sothall were outside the Sheffield city boundary until 1967 and so were part of Derbyshire until then.
@@martynelse6121 route*
I live in Sheffield and get these trams almost every single day, it's really nice to see people coming here just to visit and experience the trams. Which, by the way, are 100% eco-friendly!
gayyyyyy
Seeing you ride my local tram network is incredible! I regularly use the Yellow route as Middlewood is the nearest stop to me that I can get to by bus from my house
Excellent video as always Geoff. I've done all the Tram stops in Sheffield myself. It's absolutely brilliant however I have not done the new extension yet or went on the Class 399 train trams. Keep up the amazing content tho, looking forward to seeing what more new videos you have for 2022! 👍
Phil is the one fun travelling I have ever seen
Great video Geoff, amazing tram network 👍👌😃
Thanks for the video. Nice to know that trams are making a comeback. It gives me a lot satisfaction to see cities adopt sustainable mass transit.
Geoff I love it so much THANK YOU FOR FINALLY DO IT 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Arghhh I’ve been waiting for this for so long you don’t understand
Phil is brilliant at comedy with that deliberately late entrance 😆
Never been to Sheffield but this was great fun, thanks both :)
The pronunciation of some of these is amazingly southern 😂
Holbrook was a mining village whose name was changed to Halfway (after the Halfway House pub) to avoid confusion with Holbrook near Derby.
And the Halfway pub was the halfway point for the stagecoaches.
This is what I been always told
Holbrook lives on though: Holbrook Industrial Estate.
@@pmberry well I try not I fact check it so I’m not telling something what is t right and found 3 sources what confirmed that wiki council archive where the rename was mention and a news paper article
What I don’t understand why it was changed
The Sheffield trams are also unique in the UK in being considered as bus routes, whereas the tram networks of other cities are separate networks from the buses. The Sheffield tram routes are in the bus databases!
Is this the reason the tram and tram train service are covered on a plus bus ticket for Sheffield?
Only just true.
In Edinburgh a day ticket for the buses also covers the trams, with one exception: you have to buy a more expensive ticket if you travel to/from the airport.
The same is true of a Plusbus: travel to Waverly by train from outside the Edinburgh area and buy a Plusbus with the train ticket: again it covers all the trams except that last stop to the airport.
So it is the special rule for Ed Airport that makes your claim true, if only by a technicality...
@@harrierjames7727 yes and Edinburgh almost too... see my separate reply
@@harrierjames7727: Plusbus (where it's available) covers at least parts of most tram system as far as I know, I think Manchester being the only exception to that?
(Edit: made the trip not too long ago and while the PlusBus and Supertram websites state that Plusbus is valid, many of the conductors didn't seem to think it was, though they let me go anyway...
West Midlands Metro also fully accept PlusBus, though when I went there was no issue using it!)
Might be because it's run by a bus company
By far my favourite video, me visiting Sheffield often this is great
Brilliant vlog Geoff. The comedy timing was....................perfect.👍
Really interesting Geoff. Keep up the great videos.
50 years ago as a youngster in Sheffield the question to parents always was 'Halfway to where?'. Even my grandparents who were all born in sheffield and all lived to almost 100 never knew!
Can't believe the key fact that the Sheffield Supertram has to contend with gradients of 10% and the trams were designed specifically for that. No other tramway in the UK has gradients that steep. Top fact. Only Brazil (Estrada de Ferro Campos do Jordão), the US (Cass Scenic Railway, West Virginia, Austria (Pöstlingbergbahn) and Portugal (Lisbon Tramways) have a railway or tram system operating on such steep inclines or steeper.
What about San Fransisco?
@@AhsokaTanoTheWhite User error, accidentally missed due to Wikipedia misread - San Francisco doesn't have trams, it has cable cars, they are pulled up the hills with cables.
@@AndyH2O it's all good, was going to say, I know Sheffield has some steep hills but the supertram doesn't go on any of them, and the San Fransisco one does.
@@AndyH2O also, been wondering this for a while, how come the supertram can climb hills and a train can't? Is it weight?
@@AhsokaTanoTheWhite Gradient, how many powered wheels and traction are the key. San Francisco doesn't count because it's a cable car system. Sheffield is fifth in the list of steepest gradients for trams in the world, so for tramways those are steep - It's not like there's a tram going up Blake Street for example but no modern tram (or even old tram) would make it.
Such enthusiasm Geoff. Great.
Nice one Geoff!!!
Love your vids Geoff, nice to see you somewhere local to me 👍
Used to be local to me, I have since moved to Liverpool. I still miss Sheffield, but at least I have the 777s to look forward to!
I love this channel carry on the good work
Yes Geoff! What a guy, been waiting for this!
Hi Geoff,
Whata paira nutta's, 😄 quite enjoyed that, those trams are awsome vehicles, I've ridden those myself in recent years when I was trade plating. I've also ridden the Manchester, Rotherham, Nottingham, and Croydon systems. When I rode the Croydon system, shortly after it opened, I did what you've just done, rode the whole system it covered, did it in just over half a day. As you probably know, some of their routes are on former BR track beds.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy 2022. 😀👍👏
Nice one Geoff 👍🏻 Happy Christmas 🎄
Brilliant Video, this is the only tram network that you can used a disable bus pass on from a different county. Tried it once with a Staffordshire bus pass and let you use it.
Fun fact, Sheffield Cathedral was never finished. It's missing a spire. We always made the joke that if the tram only goes to Halfway, where would it end up if it went all the way? Great video. Brought back some great memories.
I went to a talk about the tram trains. They have special wheels to allow them to run both through National Network points and along street running rails. They also had to fit special check-rails to the points. These stick up more than usual; I think everything except a class 33 is still gauge cleared to run over them.
I always understood the difference between streetcar (tram) wheelsets and railroad wheelsets is that the streetcar wheels have narrower treads that don't overhang the railhead (so as to avoid damaging the adjacent pavement), as well as narrower flanges.
This became something of an issue at the trolley museum I'm a member at here in the US (Shore Line Trolley Museum, East Haven Connecticut), as the operating fleet includes a number of rapid transit (metro) cars from New York City, whose wheel profile is more like a railroad wheelset. On sections of the mainline where both operate, one compromise was the use of spring frogs on mainline switches. On the single-point streetcar switches used in yard areas, the flanges on those cars tend to ride up on the edges of the narrow flangeway for the short distance to standard T-rail.
This would have been brilliant a couple of months ago, my son had an open day at Uni of Sheffield & it was a right PIA getting the tram/park and ride info off t'internet. Great video as always.
the amsterdam lighttrain network was really something to behold before the North-Southline was built, it would've been extremely challanging but cheap, all trams amsterdam, it had a rail-train service as well then. Metro/Underground/SpeedTram Service 51 from Amsterdam central station on the bussy east line underground, and lead you down all the way down through amstelveen, just a few KM short of UITHOORN, that's like the amsterdam version of LUTON, but closer, as the netherlands is too cozy for comfort everywhere. but in Amsterdam South/WTC it changed it electric system, and used pantographs 2 on each set, so 4 or 6. sharing it with a regular tram, thats been modified to run on higher voltage and higher speed. nowadays the new CAF trams only use it with allot of underpasses or overpasses extra built and shorted the line. Now the norh south line is built, EVERYTHIGN changed on how trams and busses are run as the bus or ferry isn't the only way anymore to go north. of ' 't Ei.
but YOU WILL DO ALL LINES OF THE AMSTERDAM RAIL and R/NET Rail all the way to rotterdam, using the Dutch national rail (NS) to get on to discover the real SUPERTRAM, known as RANDSTAD RAIL, it shares rail WITH Actual intercity tracks.
I double dot dare you
One of my favourite tram networks, especially the Yellow Route that I'd regularly take from Middlewood to Meadowhall, when visiting my late grandparents! 😃
Great video and nice to see you up in my city for a change! Only fun tidbit I think you could have added is that the tram changes voltage when swapping from the Tram Network on to the National Rail Network.
Very Nice video, I do like the Sheffield supertrams :)
Can't believe I missed Geoff in my hometown! Brilliant video, I didn't know about the 200m worth of track that goes into Derbyshire!
Glad you enjoyed it David - I also quite enjoyed thinking of things to point out to Geoff...it was like seeing your own home town as a first time visitor!
I'm always happy to see interesting, well-researched, educational channels do well on UA-cam.
Geoff, your videos are fun and informative as always.
Many thanks!
@@geofftech2 there's a roblox game about the Stagecoach supertram
Just gotta love a well integrated tram train. Love the systems in Germany and this as well!
The class 399 also operates in Karlsruhe as a "tram-train", but only on DC lines (known as "NET 2012").
Geoff was quite confused by the concept of tram-trains, I bet he would be super confused if he visited Karlsruhe, where there are low-floor tram-trains like the Supertram as well as high floor tram-trains actually running on proper main lines.
in theory its great but in actuality it took years to build just 2 stops when it took 1 year to build the whole yellow and blue route, the tram trains dont go any faster on the track than the road and the trams have to stop at corners to let others pass so they dont scrape each other. its not great. the tram itself is exellent though! they are much more powerfull and have a lot more acceleration, however this does lead people who usually use the '94 trams to almost fall over, haha.
@@Hushey Well then, Sheffield has poorly executed the idea of a tram-train.
In Karlsruhe, tram trains are much faster on the "railway" routes than on the roads: up to 80 kph on DC tracks and up to 100 kph on AC mainline tracks. And they don't have to slow down at corners, as it is just a plain old railway line.
@@pixoontube2912 that's the idea. Also the trains here are Diesel multiple units so don't require catenary, so you'd think the tram train uses tram catenary and voltage right? Wrong. Tram train has to stop when it gets onto railway to switch voltage to railway standard even though it dosent need that and no trains use it, plus it only goes on tram track and a bit of railway so you couldn't use elec trains anyway, lmao
Awesome video!
8:22 “because it’s cool” 😄
Never thought id be so invested in a video about trams in a city ive never been to 😂
Fantastic video one thing I always do in Sheffield is have a ride on the TramTrain
He looks happier than ever!
brilliant im loving the Sheffield trams
Been to Sheffield before during the end of the first lockdown and it was amazing to ride the trams in Sheffield
I always watch your videos and end up wanting to plan a crazy pub crawl.
Great video Geoff, been wondering when you’d come and complete the Supertram network! You’ll have to get up early next time and tick off the ‘wrong’ (back) side of the triangle with the few trams that avoid the city centre ;)
Went up there from Kent a few weeks ago for the football, very much enjoyed riding it!
Aaaah cool thanks Geoff! All this is in my back garden (not literally haha)
Worth pointing out that Sheffield & Rotherham PlusBus are valid on Supertram.
I love the look of the super trams I wish I lived in Sheffield but I live in London and my favourite ones are the Stagecoach ones
I've seen a few of David Frankal's videos on the Sheffield Supertram. Cool to see it from your perspective.
Stumbled across this video because my kids were watching it to see if they could spot me, I should also mention I'm a supertram driver 😂
Great video mate 👍
FYI, "Rotherham" is pronounced "Rovrum." It also sounds like they will be adding another station between Meadowhall South and Rotherham Central at the Magna Science Adventure Centre. So you may need to visit again in a few years.
Hello, Phil from the video here! We did point out the possible site of the future Magna Park and Ride tram train stop, but unfortunately it didn't make the final edit. The public consultation closed on Friday 3rd September, and South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive are now considering those comments before proceeding with the next stage of the process. You can read more about their plans here:
www.rotherham.gov.uk/news/article/386/partner-news-consultation-launched-for-new-magna-tram-train-stop-with-park-and-ride
😀
Its pronounced as either Rovrum (probably a more local one) or Rotherum.
The local pronunciation is Rothrum, not ‘Rovrum’... this is a cockney-ism!
I pronounce it "Rother'um"
brilliant! i would love to see all the tyne and wear metro. mabye even with new train!
The stop at Netherthorpe Road my late Dad parents lived close to here, and I remember before the trams we could walk under the passageway to get to the nursery I went to
These tram vids are my favourites
Merry Christmas Geoff
Only just subscribed but been watching for a while.
Commented on the Metrolink video asking when Sheffield was coming but never saw it pop up in recommend.
Spent the last year living in Sheffield. It's nice to see it again. I didn't use the trams much though so it's interesting.
Have a great Xmas and New Year..
Been waiting ages for a video on the Sheffield Supertram, thank you so much for visiting my former hometown (spent my childhood in Sheffield before moving to Staffordshire). Haven't ridden this for many years since my early childhood (when I used to sometimes take it from the Cathedral to Meadowhall) but would very much like to ride it again some time later if I visit Sheffield again.
And Btw, Rotherham is actually pronounced as "Rotherum", not "Rother-ham", the "ham" bit pretty much rhymes with places like Birmingham, Nottingham etc & the "h" is silent.
I left Sheffield 25 years ago. What a joy!
Love to see the supertram rep!!
@08:22 hahaha now thats a local accent if you've ever heard one! Good to see Geoff in my neck of the woods. Sorry you had to visit Rov'rum though.. urghh.. You did right not leaving the train station.
So that’s why you went on my Sheffield train that other week!
Good old Sheffield. I miss it a lot, taking the tram to Meadowhall on the weekend.
Keep up the good work
Rotherham and Gleadless pronounciations were funny 😂
Great Video Geoff, you should also try the Edinburgh Trams. 🏴
woo! SST, epic video idea