Its funny people will absolutely love these and it has travel in the brake thank god because real gt3 cars have travel! No matter what peoppe think we have gotten told something so false in sim racing it's insane. I love some throw its amazing helps with trail braking. When I got to drive a gt4 ans gt3 car one a BMW I was shocked ay the travel and mush in the pedal. Then realized wow that whole sales pitch years ago in sim racing and people stuck with was so wrong lol. I can see alot of people feeling it and going ahh to much travel! But guys give it a few days and watch you find time you never realized you could get. That is if you are already a good trail braker I will say these have a bit to much throw but for many it will be a happy day. Also I'm using only springs in my p1000s it really is so much more accurate it changes your mind on every thing you thought on a brake once you adapt to it. Also it's only 199 for the 2 pedal set? Like what? Amazing!
I went from budget Logitech to asatek forte pedals and asatek invicta base and I went from 0.6 Irating to 1.8k but the break is like pressing against the wall if I try to make some travel I keep locking up I’m fukin confused what am I doing wrong any help
@mr1k666 nope that's just how they are designed you can't get the travle you want out of them its exactly why 50% of users end up getting something else. Its how that loadcell was designed. My p1000s have like 20k options. Tons of springs, elastomers all work great. If you have to much travel you can use the angle sensor instead of load cell and its so so accurate. But you can find that perfect spot. I have amazing travel yet beautiful control now and ive just gotten so so much better with them
Springs 100% give more accuracy as long as you are happy sacrificing some brake feel. These going to be hard to beat at this price, thanks for watching as always matey 🙌🏻
100% agree I have not used loads of floor pedals maybe around 5 or 6 in my time ( have 4 here in my possession I made comparisons with) and I can confidently say these are the best floor pedals I have ever used 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit no doubt this will be hard to beat I’m just curious what’s moza bringing out but I still think these will be very hard to beat in fact I don’t think they can be beat let’s see if I’m wrong just my opinion from a nobody
@@mr1k666 oh don’t say that we always want better for cheaper 🥴 I myself have not had any new Moza products in a while but Moza brings out new gear weekly it seems 😮
sim jack are cheaper and better pedals but the build the qc will be lower how every i will defo be going that route so i can get high end feeling pedals for 170 pounds if i dont get the extra roods
This is a great price effort that SiMagic is doing. To late for me last year i bought the csl elite v2 as my first load cell pedal and i was "shocked" at the stiffness and barely travel of my brake. I spend a few weeks before getting use to it. So now when i see a load cell brake with a travel like my old thrustmaster t3pm it looks unusual. And i heard that real racing car have travel on the brake pedal, it's ok. I could get use to this product, if my fanatec broke down i could go for this p500 or the p1000. i wish the clutch had a better feel.
Just for info: A 100kg loadcell doesn't mean 100kg actual brake force, because of the pedal leverage.👈 The Heusinkveld Sprint pedals have 65kg maximum brake force, but they use a 120kg load cell. Even the Fanatec V3 pedals are advertised with a 90kg load cell, but they have only half or a third of brake force.
I did mix up brake force and loadcell figures sorry 😞 and I do understand but even in HE software the loadcell does not pickup anything after reaching 65kg of brake force and it does not take 65kg brake force to use the full potential of a 120kg loadcell. I can push with roughly the same amount of force/strength on the p500 and although the pedals does not travel further the loadcell still picks it up in software. ( by doing a quick comparison and just using my muscle memory to compare I think the p500 can take a few more kg say 70-75kg before maxing out the 100kg loadcell) The sprints are capable of much more than 65kg but this is limited in the software I think this is done not to undermine the sales of their ultimate pedals if the full range of the 120kg loadcell could be used the brake force would probably be 90+ kg of brake/strength force. So imo the 65kg strength that is required to push down on the pedal does not use the entire 120kg loadcell but rather a part of it. Where the p500 uses 100% of the advertised loadcell of 100kg it’s not limited by the software 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuit Yes the brake pedal on the Sprints is limited to 65kg brake force in software. But this is also because of the pedal arm and the leverage effect. Imagine a long 50cm pedal. You'd get much more force on the loadcell even while pushing just 50kg on the pedal plate. It's simply physics.🤓 BTW ... the Heusinkveld Ultimates have a 200kg load cell with maximum brake force up to 140kg.😉
@@ErnieGaming 🙌🏻 I’m no expert even simple physics is not simple for me 😂 but I do get what your saying pedals are designed differently and adjusting length of pedals will add more or less force. Something I will take into consideration in future reviews 👍🏻🙌🏻 This is no claim to fame lol but this weekend at the sim expo Simucube had a brake pressure competition, who ever pushes and holds closest to 50kg wins one of their pedals. I managed a 49.56 😎😂
Yea bit unlucky, I do have the simjack UT pedals and even though i have only used them briefly I can say don’t worry they are amazing for the money also 🙌🏻
Simjack UT are amazing for price l have simagic haptics fitted to mine came within 2 weeks to uk only paid about 200 with vat that also includes 2 haptic hpr-neo so for me still would be better option just made my own foot plate from wood and got 3 pedal option from simjack with no extras. Happy Racing
Very useful review. I have a request. Can you test the condition of the P500 when used on the floor?The MOZA SRP when used on the floor with the brake applied will cause the other side to lift up. I am a table player. I am concerned that the P500 will act like the moza srp. there is a Wall Support Bracket included in the P500 kit. maybe that will help.
I don’t have the Moza SRP pedals but I am at the ADAC Sim Expo this weekend I will see if I can use the SRP pedals on the floor if I can I will get back to you 🙌🏻
I have Moza SRP on wheelstand not on floor. "The Simpit" channel reviewed Moza SRP on floor (minute 19:55) and they move up a bit with the softest spring. With the brake kit they must be on a stand. You can attach Moza SRP to a 5kg barbell disk to stay in place (did this with TLCM pedals on the floor). With better and stiffer brakes your office chair will move back and also the pedals. I use a wheelstand with chair link + office chair and with stiff brakes my chair lift ups and back from my leg press. I feel this P500 are softer pedals for desk / floor, but the brake is worse to be competitive.
Nice video! Two questions, are the extra springs/the bullet included with the pedals or are they separate? Also, is it worth spending the extra bit of money to get the hpr-neos over no haptics? Edit: I rewatched and it looks like it does come with the springs 😂
The springs and bullets ( you get 3 ) are included yes. Personally what I suggest is get the original hpr for brake pedal and the Neo for throttle. I would skip the clutch haptic 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit thanks for the reply! For the haptics, what all do I need to buy to have them work on the p500s? Just the reactor, or with power supply/control box?
They are very different pedals the SimSonn pedals are for rig only they also have allot more adjustability, the SimSonn’s now also come with better elastomers the elastomers in the kit i had was my biggest problem. The brake on the p500 is more accurate imo and pedals move with less friction and feels smoother. Honestly if I had to pick I would probably for my self pick the SimSonns because I like a shorter travel on the pedals and the p500 have a long travel although I love how accurate the brakes are on the p500 I do like a brake pedal that feels like a brake pedal and will probably sacrifice a bit of performance my self for realism. I don’t like the SimSonn baseplate the p500 one is super clean hiding away all wires and that is a big plus for me as I hate seeing lots of wires. It’s a very hard choice to be fair this is best I can help 🤦🏼♂️
I have never used tlcm pedals so can’t say matey both have a 100kg loadcell, from what I can see from looking online at the tlcm I would say the SiMagic ones will be better build quality but I even if the p500 are an upgrade I don’t think it will be a massive upgrade for you 🤷🏼♂️
Its funny people will absolutely love these and it has travel in the brake thank god because real gt3 cars have travel! No matter what peoppe think we have gotten told something so false in sim racing it's insane. I love some throw its amazing helps with trail braking.
When I got to drive a gt4 ans gt3 car one a BMW I was shocked ay the travel and mush in the pedal. Then realized wow that whole sales pitch years ago in sim racing and people stuck with was so wrong lol.
I can see alot of people feeling it and going ahh to much travel! But guys give it a few days and watch you find time you never realized you could get. That is if you are already a good trail braker
I will say these have a bit to much throw but for many it will be a happy day.
Also I'm using only springs in my p1000s it really is so much more accurate it changes your mind on every thing you thought on a brake once you adapt to it.
Also it's only 199 for the 2 pedal set? Like what? Amazing!
I went from budget Logitech to asatek forte pedals and asatek invicta base and I went from 0.6 Irating to 1.8k but the break is like pressing against the wall if I try to make some travel I keep locking up I’m fukin confused what am I doing wrong any help
@mr1k666 nope that's just how they are designed you can't get the travle you want out of them its exactly why 50% of users end up getting something else. Its how that loadcell was designed.
My p1000s have like 20k options. Tons of springs, elastomers all work great. If you have to much travel you can use the angle sensor instead of load cell and its so so accurate. But you can find that perfect spot. I have amazing travel yet beautiful control now and ive just gotten so so much better with them
Springs 100% give more accuracy as long as you are happy sacrificing some brake feel. These going to be hard to beat at this price, thanks for watching as always matey 🙌🏻
@@mr1k666I do love my Invictas but they are definitely not for everyone
For FLOOR MOUNTED pedals these are unbeatable!
100% agree I have not used loads of floor pedals maybe around 5 or 6 in my time ( have 4 here in my possession I made comparisons with) and I can confidently say these are the best floor pedals I have ever used 🙌🏻
Man for the price how can anyone complain if I didn’t go with asatek I definitely would go simagic no doubt
Great price and allot off pedal for the price 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit no doubt this will be hard to beat I’m just curious what’s moza bringing out but I still think these will be very hard to beat in fact I don’t think they can be beat let’s see if I’m wrong just my opinion from a nobody
@@mr1k666 oh don’t say that we always want better for cheaper 🥴 I myself have not had any new Moza products in a while but Moza brings out new gear weekly it seems 😮
sim jack are cheaper and better pedals but the build the qc will be lower how every i will defo be going that route so i can get high end feeling pedals for 170 pounds if i dont get the extra roods
This is a great price effort that SiMagic is doing. To late for me last year i bought the csl elite v2 as my first load cell pedal and i was "shocked" at the stiffness and barely travel of my brake. I spend a few weeks before getting use to it. So now when i see a load cell brake with a travel like my old thrustmaster t3pm it looks unusual.
And i heard that real racing car have travel on the brake pedal, it's ok.
I could get use to this product, if my fanatec broke down i could go for this p500 or the p1000. i wish the clutch had a better feel.
Allot of people talk very highly of the fanatec csl v2’s I personally have never used them 🙌🏻
Just for info: A 100kg loadcell doesn't mean 100kg actual brake force, because of the pedal leverage.👈
The Heusinkveld Sprint pedals have 65kg maximum brake force, but they use a 120kg load cell.
Even the Fanatec V3 pedals are advertised with a 90kg load cell, but they have only half or a third of brake force.
I did mix up brake force and loadcell figures sorry 😞 and I do understand but even in HE software the loadcell does not pickup anything after reaching 65kg of brake force and it does not take 65kg brake force to use the full potential of a 120kg loadcell. I can push with roughly the same amount of force/strength on the p500 and although the pedals does not travel further the loadcell still picks it up in software. ( by doing a quick comparison and just using my muscle memory to compare I think the p500 can take a few more kg say 70-75kg before maxing out the 100kg loadcell)
The sprints are capable of much more than 65kg but this is limited in the software I think this is done not to undermine the sales of their ultimate pedals if the full range of the 120kg loadcell could be used the brake force would probably be 90+ kg of brake/strength force. So imo the 65kg strength that is required to push down on the pedal does not use the entire 120kg loadcell but rather a part of it. Where the p500 uses 100% of the advertised loadcell of 100kg it’s not limited by the software 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuit Yes the brake pedal on the Sprints is limited to 65kg brake force in software. But this is also because of the pedal arm and the leverage effect. Imagine a long 50cm pedal. You'd get much more force on the loadcell even while pushing just 50kg on the pedal plate. It's simply physics.🤓
BTW ... the Heusinkveld Ultimates have a 200kg load cell with maximum brake force up to 140kg.😉
@@ErnieGaming 🙌🏻 I’m no expert even simple physics is not simple for me 😂 but I do get what your saying pedals are designed differently and adjusting length of pedals will add more or less force. Something I will take into consideration in future reviews 👍🏻🙌🏻
This is no claim to fame lol but this weekend at the sim expo Simucube had a brake pressure competition, who ever pushes and holds closest to 50kg wins one of their pedals. I managed a 49.56 😎😂
@@TheSimCircuit 49.56kg. Wow, that's close. 👏
you sound extremely south african love the ascent
I am extremely South African 😂 thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Awesome video dude. Pedals look very nice for the money. I will not be buying them tho. Iv just got a set of P2000 absolutely love them 👍🏻
Thanks for watching matey, the P2000 are fantastic 🤩
Looks like g pro pedals with a few improvements
I would say this is a very good assessment yes 🙌🏻
There beating MOZA at there own game. And friction was word you were looking for
Yes 100% friction is the word I was looking for 😂. Moza brings out products every other week so be interesting to see if they will be competing 🤔
That's just my luck to order the simjacks UT from across the world just to have these simagics be released 2 days before delivery 🤦🤣
Yea bit unlucky, I do have the simjack UT pedals and even though i have only used them briefly I can say don’t worry they are amazing for the money also 🙌🏻
Simjack UT are amazing for price l have simagic haptics fitted to mine came within 2 weeks to uk only paid about 200 with vat that also includes 2 haptic hpr-neo so for me still would be better option just made my own foot plate from wood and got 3 pedal option from simjack with no extras. Happy Racing
Very useful review. I have a request. Can you test the condition of the P500 when used on the floor?The MOZA SRP when used on the floor with the brake applied will cause the other side to lift up. I am a table player. I am concerned that the P500 will act like the moza srp. there is a Wall Support Bracket included in the P500 kit. maybe that will help.
I don’t have the Moza SRP pedals but I am at the ADAC Sim Expo this weekend I will see if I can use the SRP pedals on the floor if I can I will get back to you 🙌🏻
I have Moza SRP on wheelstand not on floor. "The Simpit" channel reviewed Moza SRP on floor (minute 19:55) and they move up a bit with the softest spring. With the brake kit they must be on a stand. You can attach Moza SRP to a 5kg barbell disk to stay in place (did this with TLCM pedals on the floor). With better and stiffer brakes your office chair will move back and also the pedals. I use a wheelstand with chair link + office chair and with stiff brakes my chair lift ups and back from my leg press. I feel this P500 are softer pedals for desk / floor, but the brake is worse to be competitive.
Is P500 pedal set up Sigma conveter for ps5?
I am not sure, hopefully someone will comment here if it is or not 👍🏻
@@TheSimCircuit Thank you for your answer. Have a nice day.
Nice video! Two questions, are the extra springs/the bullet included with the pedals or are they separate? Also, is it worth spending the extra bit of money to get the hpr-neos over no haptics?
Edit: I rewatched and it looks like it does come with the springs 😂
As someone with the p1000s, the haptics have actually helped me get faster. So for the price, they're an absolute steal.
The springs and bullets ( you get 3 ) are included yes. Personally what I suggest is get the original hpr for brake pedal and the Neo for throttle. I would skip the clutch haptic 🙌🏻
100% this 👆🏼
@@TheSimCircuit thanks for the reply! For the haptics, what all do I need to buy to have them work on the p500s? Just the reactor, or with power supply/control box?
How do they compare to the simsonn?
They are very different pedals the SimSonn pedals are for rig only they also have allot more adjustability, the SimSonn’s now also come with better elastomers the elastomers in the kit i had was my biggest problem. The brake on the p500 is more accurate imo and pedals move with less friction and feels smoother.
Honestly if I had to pick I would probably for my self pick the SimSonns because I like a shorter travel on the pedals and the p500 have a long travel although I love how accurate the brakes are on the p500 I do like a brake pedal that feels like a brake pedal and will probably sacrifice a bit of performance my self for realism.
I don’t like the SimSonn baseplate the p500 one is super clean hiding away all wires and that is a big plus for me as I hate seeing lots of wires.
It’s a very hard choice to be fair this is best I can help 🤦🏼♂️
better than Fanatec Clubsport pedals v3??
Been a very long time since using my V3 the brake on the p500 will be more accurate but don’t think it’s worth selling your v3’s
nice Vid. I believe these are good pedals, but on all pictures it look like it's not made for people with tall feet.
For me they were ok I am a UK size 10 but my toes were going over the paddles, definitely would have been nicer if they were that bit taller thou 👍🏻
ar these an upgrade from the tlcm?
I have never used tlcm pedals so can’t say matey both have a 100kg loadcell, from what I can see from looking online at the tlcm I would say the SiMagic ones will be better build quality but I even if the p500 are an upgrade I don’t think it will be a massive upgrade for you 🤷🏼♂️