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You don’t fix the Empire by making it more democratic! America has demonstrated for us that democracy doesn’t work; you replace the Tarkin’s with the Admiral Versio’s! You rule through fear, the right way!
Yeah man I was listening to the video while scrolling on different tabs then I took a look at the actual video and was like yo wtf where is his beard lol
@bigbadcreoledaddy Yes, but there's a difference in "replacable" because someone else can do a better job or "replaceable" because you physically can't do the job anymore (which is just reality - not political oppression) and "replaceable" because it's just politically expedient to get rid of you. None of these are pleasant, but one is outright injustice.
@bigbadcreoledaddy True but the New Republic won't pull a "You have failed me for the last time!" on you for failing to submit your paperwork on time. The Empire would, it's a collection of backstabbing selfish egotistical evil dudes. Rampart is your stereotypical Imperial.
So in the Emperor’s Empire, you had Tarkin discarding the competent Imperial officers, meanwhile Darth Vader was choking the life out of incompetent officers, so the safest bet in the Empire, was to be a mid, extremely mediocre officer, I am sure in the officers’ break room “out of sight, out of mind” was their mantra to live another day 😅
"If you are safe and content in a pile of (bleep) - For Pete's sake KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!" You saw this with the garrison in Andor - don't rock the boat and keep the locals distracted so nobody gets demoted or made an example of by the ISB.
It's like the fable of the man with two wives, one older than him and the other, younger. The younger wife, not wanting to be married to an old man, plucked out every gray hair she saw and the older wife, not wishing to be reminded of youth long gone, would pluck out every brown hair she saw. In the end, the husband was left bald
One of the only officers who escaped both Tarkin and Vader's purges was Thrawn, so essentially being an officer under Thrawn was a life preserver in the ocean of fratricide that was the Empire.
Palpatine after the creation of the Empire kind of reminds me of Plaguis in his book, where they both gain as much power in the mundane world as they possibly can before realizing that true power comes from unlocking the full potential of the dark side where they then abandon just about everything but their studies and leave the domination of the galaxy to their apprentice/underlings which ultimately leads to their downfall
First Tarkin throws Rampart underneath the bus; then he eliminates Krennic. Both were ruthless monsters but in the authoritarian Empire they were some of the best leaders in the system. And of course, let's not forget the massive idiocy that was destroying Alderaan: in a High Human Culture society, you go after the aliens first and quietly sweep up the humans suporting them; if Tarkin had destroyed Mon Cala or an Outer Rim world like Lothal, the backlash wouldn't have been so fierce. Then Tarkin backs the worst people possible: Pryce was an imbecile who climbed the ranks thanks to aiding Tarkin in his political manuvearing. Thrawn, while a strategic genuis, was forced to accommodate Pryce for the political leaverage she wielded and Tarkin did little to aid Thrawn on this front. Even in BB S3, he's quarreling with Hemlock over finances and trying to worm his way into Tantiss!
He's is always looking for a way to make himself look like the genius who came up with all the Empire's good ideas. (Probably the reason he shafted Thrawn, so he wouldn't have effective competition)
@@xgcsurreal2608 One of the reasons why I support Vader being the Emporer he would have been much more forgiving than Palpatine and removed flaws in the system like slavery(he is really against that one) and put competent people incharge like Thrawn and Pellion.
What’s most unbelievable about the imprisonment of Rampart js the Emperor didn’t need to actually imprison him. The Emperor could easily have gone through the motions of punishing Rampart only to have e him whisked into a secret team on any number of secret vault worlds or secret projects. In an Empire comprised of millions of inhabited worlds and, I assume, has many thousands of secret projects happening at any given time, the Emperor could have done it. But the other problem with being evil and narcissistic is you can’t be bothered to make that kind of effort.
He was publicly exposed as a traitor to the Empire, the one who destroyed its biggest source of combat protection, right in front of the whole Senate. Palpatine doesn't have full control yet, so he has to be able to show Senators who might be curious about what happened to this galaxy-class traitor that his "Imperial Justice" is being delivered.
There was also the fact that Rampart was overambitious and willing to go to extreme lengths to improve his position. Sending him elsewhere without punishing him could make things even worse
The empire really was a clusterfuck of donkeys leading lions (or in Thrawns case, lions leading donkeys). If Rampart had the good fortune to be placed under Thrawns command insead of Tarkins he would likely have become one of Thrawns most trusted officers, the guy he trusts to run things.
To be honest Vader would’ve probably liked Thrawn and asked him to overthrow the Emperor if he could’ve provided a way to do so. I’ve always believed that Vader would’ve made everything better if he ever became Emperor, while cruel and needlessly evil it wasn’t unprovoked.
@@winslowa8317 Vader is not at all a political figure, and I think he knows that, contributing to why he never took advantage of moments he probably could've killed Palpatine and gotten away with it, until of course, the Return of the Jedi
@@williamnixon3994 My point wasn’t him being political, my point was he had better traits than Palpatine in terms of administrative direction. Palpatine was a beautiful politician and a great visionary, he was without question the opposite of a beautiful ruler and a great leader.
Palpatine's command over the darkside was such that he could draw on the hatred and suffering of others to empower himself. Whats more, he was in his late seventies by the time the Clone Wars ended. Combined you begin to understand why he was so mask off post republic even though the Empire was far from complete. He would either find a way to extend his lifespan through plundering the galaxy, or die with the satisfaction he got to spend his golden years being cartoonishly evil. Palpatine was the perfect Sith, so completely selfish he was willing to squander the thousand year old grand plan for no reason other than it didn't directly benefit him to execute it to completion.
Well, even then, in both legends and disney canon, it's clear he intended no one but himself to rule the galaxy and eventually the universe. He was constantly trying to cheat death through clone bodies and find a way to become immortal
Still doesn't make sense. No totalitarian system has died with their leader. Lenin died, Stalin took his place, Stalin died Khrushchev took his place. HItler died and Donetz took his place, issue was the Reich was pretty much occupied by that point so everything was in tatters. Issue is Hitler had a succession plan. And I reject the very idea Operation Cinder exist it's the stupid and most ret*rded plot point scifi history. There is no way the Empire would of not had something in place in case Palpatine died. Even Palpatine himself should know he wouldn't live forever, even as a force user. No man in such a position of power would want their legacy destroy/lost and would have made measures to preserve it.
Socialist Albania, N*zi Germany, cambodia only to name a few regimes that didnt even pass the power to a successor but died along its "leaders" in real life.
I was under the impression that Rampart overestimated his own importance to the Empire. He got perks, even believed in the New Order, but lacked the clout of someone like Tarkin or Mass Ameda, so when the Senate found out it his Star Destroyers that destroyed Tipoca City, he was the one left holding the bag. And the Emperor was able to put everything on him.
Its also sad to see people that served the republic and the empire see this chaos around them and either did nothing or decided to instead add more fuel to the fire by joining it knowing full well that it could've led to the destruction of the empire.
The Republic during the prequel era really wasn't any better than the Empire. It was extremely corrupt and only valued the wealthy core worlds. The outer rim was left to fend for itself. The Empire brought order to a fractured Galaxy.
That's not entirely fair - the Empire was established as a multinational police force guarding against the corruption and warfare that had preceded it. As soon as many Imperial personnel realised that the Empire really stood for widespread abuse of government power at the expense of civilian populations they jumped ship and joined resistance groups.
If Vader had killed Tarkin, the Empire might unironically have fared better. It probably would've still fallen eventually, but it would've bought them more time.
An excellent analysis of the Empire and its intrinsic deficiencies. With respect to idealistic people like Rampart, you have two possible scenarios: first, the more they learn about how the system they support actually works, the more disillusioned they become and the more likely they are to ultimately betray it and defect, which is essentially what happened with Agent Callus in Rebels. Alternatively, they maintain their loyalty but come to see its leadership as the ultimate source of imperfection and conspire with like-minded people to overthrow it. A perfect example of this in real life was Claus von Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators in the July Plot. Whatever the case, it's only a matter of time before they become a threat to those in power. Thus, his face turn (assuming that's what the writers of the show intend) doesn't come as a complete shock.
So basically an authoritarian police state is ideal, but Palpatine is too much of a megalomaniac to make it work, so replace him with a meritocracy with Grand Admiral Thrawn in charge instead.
Thrawn's story is a perfect example of this. If the Empire hadnt been so focused a culture on glory, pretisige, and personal achievement, they would have been far more likely to see the wisdom in Thrawns tactics and projects (like the TIE fighter initiative) and apply them. The talent and quality were all stamped on by the power hungry, and thats what made the empire fall. So poetic considering that' quite literally what the dark side does to an individual.
"And run by a bunch of chaotic..." Good analysis. There are several authoritarian leaders available currently for comparison. I'd like to see your analysis of their organizations versus the Empire, as you started with Hitler's.
To put in in better terms, Palpatine's resurrection is based off the Dark Empire comics, where he continues to clone himself and transfers his spirit into new bodies that rapidly age faster as a result of his Dark side energies eating the clone bodies from the inside out. It doesn't help that in the comics, a royal guard named Carnor Jax also sabotaged the cloning process and made the Sith lord's supply of bodies genetically unstable, causing them to break down even faster.
@@Slayer398: Actually YES, before the Animated Series, and Live-Action Shows, they never really showed The Empire do actual Evil Stuff other than The Death Star. All until now in recent Star Wars Media that has gone further in depth into The Empire’s Cruelty, and how the Real World could relate.
@@thedarkknight727 LOL. Because that's NOT "EVIL Enough?!" Seriously?! They blew a bloody planet up for shits and giggles, tortured a woman for information, and people need to have it rubbed in their faces continuously that the GALACTIC EMPIRE are not a bunch of fluffy bunnies?
@@thedarkknight727 So blowing up an entire PLANET for shits and giggles wasn't EVIL? Burning people alive wasn't EVIL? Slaughtering aliens "because" wasn't EVIL? (Jawas) What exactly do you need to fill your bill to define as Evil then if those aren't good examples because that's beyond sad. Is this more of 'if we aren't hit in the face every 5 seconds that the empire is bad, they are good?" ala Palpatine who is every 5 seconds in SW news as doing something else MOAR EVIL!!!!
Great video sir. Love the detail and passion you have for it. Not sure it's a video you would want to make but if you were Palatines second instead of Tarkin in the beginning after the clone wars how would you have made the Empire work. What initiatives, reforms, focus would you champion and how would you have dealt with the insurgency?
Great video but the opening title is a misnomer. The empire wasn't broken, it was functioning as Palpatine intended it to. It was an extension of his self serving will, a pyramid of power where he was at the top and everyone else below him.
True but the empire could've reigned for hundreds of years if Palpatine put half the effort into the Empire that he did into the Republic. Its broken because its doomed; Palpatine's awareness of this fact (or whether or not that was by Palpatine's design) doesn't change the fact that The Empire as a whole (which is what the title of the video refers to) was broken because it was completely unsustainable. This led to Palpatine's demise at the end of the original trilogy which highlights one of the main themes of star wars; being a selfish leader and trampling on others will have a negative outcome in the end
@@CaptainBigman You are right, but it could never be any different. It is the way of the Sith. Literally the first tenet of the Sith Code says "Peace is a lie". They strenghten themselves through conflict and see peace as stagnation -- Palpatine wanted his empire to be a reflection of him. One should never be at ease under the Sith rule. Not even the Sith Master. It is a Sith Empire, even though it isn't officially called that.
The problem with government is that sooner or later administrations become lazy and corrupt and have to be replaced when the public finally get fed up. In a democracy this happens with a general election; in a dictatorship it happens through armed uprising, because there's no other option.
@@JayL- Yeah, the Sith are inherently self-destructive, no matter what method they employ or style, ultimately, a society can't run on Social Darnwinsim. Not even Nature runs on it.
How do you not have over 1 million subscribers? You've phenomenal content, and it's always relevant, in some manner, to what is going on right now around the world.
I love this channel! Where you give great insight and wonderful content on motives and politics, going through Star Wars with a fine comb other channels that say they are fans like ‘Thor Skywalker’ just give a barebones explanation as “I hope the Rampart situation doesn’t turn him into a rebel because that story has been told before” never mind the bad batch series show you great character development over three seasons. Those content creators that called this episode boring is simply because they could not be bothered to make their own connections for this character and his place in the wider story.
Praise be to sweet baby Yoda, the Star Wars channel has provided more factually accurate info than 90% of UA-cam pointing out that the Aryans were Persians. Please for the love of the Great Father Skywalker, make a side channel on actual world history. I think you would do a better job than the vast majority of the current producers.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Palpatine never intended for the empire to be a stable or even properly functioning government. If anything the more unstable, dysfunctional, and cutthroat it was the better it served his needs of being a smokescreen to his true agenda. Let's not forget that in Bad Batch he's currently promising all the resources of the empire to an unstable, sadistic scientist to work on his pet project right at a time when his empire is trying to expand and consolidate its position.
7:00 and yet the Sith Eternal were able to build and staff a huge fleet of massive star destroyers each of which were armed with a planet-killing weapon…
Bit of a counter point though is actually, a lot of leaders unfortunately are like Wilhuff Tarkin. However unlike Tarkin, most of them are willing to spend time on people worth the effort. In other words you exist to make your leaders look good, if you do it enough, eventually they will take notice and they will make you look good in turn.
If you want to make a comparison, Hitler with Palpatine. Hitler despite being an idiot at times knew when to and where to garner support, he started off with with the economic issues Germany was facing, then in time when he and the Nazis got into enough of a position of power he then shifted to propaganda tactics, he played on people's fears making Jews and enemy to target, gettign worse and worse over time, even came up with the whole Aryan Race nonesense. He always had consistant "enemies" to put blame on, his undoing came from overextending Germany's military into a 2 front war with most of Europe, he succeeded well politically, but failed militarily, but still he propped up loyal but devoted followers but still took some of their advice and placated to the people to some degree. Palpatine on the other hand basically neglected the Empire, heck he was already laying the groundwork for his dark experiments during the Clone Wars, Mount Tantus and other secret locations like Byss in the old EU. He was rather egotistical. He'd have to be to willingly trust agents with these secret locations and clearly already had some of the Death Star starting construction. He propped up essentially yes men and didn't take long before placating the people wasn't important to him anymore. He constantly drove people and even military officers to despise him.
Honestly I'm surprised Rampart was still alive at this point. Palpatine can be even more brutal to failures then Vader is, as terrifying and brutal as Vader force choking an Imperial Officer to death or impaling them with a lightsaber its tame in comparison to how Palpatine would treat Imperial officers that screwed up in a big way hell even non-officers just ask Beval Lemelisk the Death Star Archetect who Sidious executed by throwing him to flesh eating bettles, then cloned and essence-transfered him only to execute him a second time by dropping him into a vat of molten copper and repeat the process. That's just one example you need also take a look at the Crimson Protectors in how they the most elite of the Emperor's guards were trained he'd have trainees at the end of the class paired up and have to fight each other to the death for a position in the guard, very often the two guard trainees were good friends and the trainees previous had trained in teams. Also overpreformers risked having to fight Darth Vader when Sidous and Vader both showed up when that happened Palpatine would select the best in the class and have them fight Vader to the death in an arena called the Squall and well anyone knows what happens when they have to fight Darth Vader one vs one you are dead no matter what. But yeah given Palpatine's brutality towards anyone that draws his ire or hell even people that preform too good its surprising that Rampart was alive, albiet sent to waste the rest of his days in a labor camp and even more so considering Rampart was a loose end and Sidious doesn't like leaving loose ends alive just ask Lama Su and the Kaminoans as a whole; you'd think that he'd have used Rampart as a brutal example to any Imperial officers. Just saying Rampart being alive is something that bastard can count himself lucky for considering that Sidious has killed people for far less and well the guy is a psychopath who enjoys killing people in messed up fashion the guy's first act on becoming a Sith was to murder his entire family something that very few Sith Lords are attributed as doing, the only other Sith of note to have done that was Darth Vitiate who like Palpatine was also a cold-blooded psychopath.
Ramparts problem was he got caught with something that was poltitically inconvenient at a time when the empire wasnt firmly entrench yet. If it had been 5 yeara later he'd have been fine.
Had Vice Admiral Rampart replaced the clones on his ship with soldiers from War Mantle, his fate would have been different… until Tarkin figured out that Rampart would eventually take his position. At that point, Tarkin would set him up for failure and get rid of him. So, basically, Rampart was always one slip up away from prison. Or execution. As for Palpatine, he would have been better off letting others be the face of government while he secretly manipulated things behind the scenes. That way, he could simply instigate a regime change to give the appearance of democracy while he still held the reins from the shadows. It’s kinda how DCAU Lex Luthor didn’t want to be President because he’d have to give up too much power.
After watching this video, I cannot helped but wondering what went through Palpatine's mind when he heard that Tarkin is no more and so did most of the high-ranking Imperial military officers onboard the First Death Star. Personally, I believed he went into total panicking mode because he had no idea what to do with this like at all. But what do you guys think?
If you were Palpatine's key advisor starting on the first day of the Galactic Republic, what would you advise Palpatine to do? This would make a great video.
Wow! It’s amazing how an animated series can so closely depict modern politics. I think bringing Rampart back in the picture will set up the remaining episodes. Will Rampart seek revenge on the Empire and assist the Bad Batch, or will he seek favor from the Empire and rat them out?
Palpatine's final vision was Dark Empire. He would be immortal and rule the galaxy completely through the Dark Side. The empire was never designed to last.
The problem with competent people in an authoritarian government is, that they will always be a career threat to purely loyalist but incompetent colleagues... and superiors. No one in an authoritarian system will be willing to promote someone, who poses a threat to their own position, no matter how loyal they are to the "grand project". Competent leadership and authoritarian rule in practice can just never mix.
You are partially correct. Linguistically speaking, the Aryan peoples started in Ukraine and went on a population replacement campaign West and South. Basically replacing every population in Europe and most of the Middle East to northwestern, India.
Anakin liked Tarkin in clone wars so I wonder if maybe that also played a part in Palpatine in having him around. A team up of Rampart and Thrawn at the top instead of Tarkin would've done wonders for the empire.
That friendship cooled off when Tarkin prosecuted Ahsoka in that kangaroo court. Palpatine was the only reason Vader did not wipe Tarkin off the face of the galaxy.
I never really understand why slavery is so huge in Star Wars. I know you can make the argument against droids for the empire. It was right after the clone wars and anti droid sentiment, all that. But a droid workforce is so much less resource intensive. You’d think the pros would out way the cons just from a practical standpoint. That’s not even mentioning the moral implications that go along with slavery.
I was very surprised that Palpatine didn't order Rampart's murder - after all, he was a self-centered opportunist with access to top secret information.
It was a message. F up not so badly, lifetime prison to think about your failure. If Tarkin had survived the Death Star's explosion, he wouldn't have survived his court martial for incompetence.
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Where can I see the older Rampart ? I need the name of the series.
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Welp
Did you shave your beard at some point?
when does this deal end?
You don’t fix the Empire by making it more democratic! America has demonstrated for us that democracy doesn’t work; you replace the Tarkin’s with the Admiral Versio’s! You rule through fear, the right way!
Bro gave his beard to Rampart😭
True lol
Lmao
Best laugh I've had all day.
That's what's different about him
Yeah man I was listening to the video while scrolling on different tabs then I took a look at the actual video and was like yo wtf where is his beard lol
Crosshair said it best: Loyalty to the empire doesn’t go both ways.
You’re more of a cog to them that’s easily replaced.
@bigbadcreoledaddy
Yes, but there's a difference in "replacable" because someone else can do a better job or "replaceable" because you physically can't do the job anymore (which is just reality - not political oppression) and "replaceable" because it's just politically expedient to get rid of you.
None of these are pleasant, but one is outright injustice.
So basically like when you work for any corporate capitalist company.
@bigbadcreoledaddy True but the New Republic won't pull a "You have failed me for the last time!" on you for failing to submit your paperwork on time. The Empire would, it's a collection of backstabbing selfish egotistical evil dudes. Rampart is your stereotypical Imperial.
So in the Emperor’s Empire, you had Tarkin discarding the competent Imperial officers, meanwhile Darth Vader was choking the life out of incompetent officers, so the safest bet in the Empire, was to be a mid, extremely mediocre officer, I am sure in the officers’ break room “out of sight, out of mind” was their mantra to live another day 😅
You are absolutely correct xD
"If you are safe and content in a pile of (bleep) -
For Pete's sake KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!"
You saw this with the garrison in Andor - don't rock the boat and keep the locals distracted so nobody gets demoted or made an example of by the ISB.
It's like the fable of the man with two wives, one older than him and the other, younger. The younger wife, not wanting to be married to an old man, plucked out every gray hair she saw and the older wife, not wishing to be reminded of youth long gone, would pluck out every brown hair she saw. In the end, the husband was left bald
One of the only officers who escaped both Tarkin and Vader's purges was Thrawn, so essentially being an officer under Thrawn was a life preserver in the ocean of fratricide that was the Empire.
Palpatine after the creation of the Empire kind of reminds me of Plaguis in his book, where they both gain as much power in the mundane world as they possibly can before realizing that true power comes from unlocking the full potential of the dark side where they then abandon just about everything but their studies and leave the domination of the galaxy to their apprentice/underlings which ultimately leads to their downfall
And Palpatine thought he was so much different and better than his master than he makes the exact same mistake.
First Tarkin throws Rampart underneath the bus; then he eliminates Krennic. Both were ruthless monsters but in the authoritarian Empire they were some of the best leaders in the system. And of course, let's not forget the massive idiocy that was destroying Alderaan: in a High Human Culture society, you go after the aliens first and quietly sweep up the humans suporting them; if Tarkin had destroyed Mon Cala or an Outer Rim world like Lothal, the backlash wouldn't have been so fierce.
Then Tarkin backs the worst people possible: Pryce was an imbecile who climbed the ranks thanks to aiding Tarkin in his political manuvearing. Thrawn, while a strategic genuis, was forced to accommodate Pryce for the political leaverage she wielded and Tarkin did little to aid Thrawn on this front. Even in BB S3, he's quarreling with Hemlock over finances and trying to worm his way into Tantiss!
He's is always looking for a way to make himself look like the genius who came up with all the Empire's good ideas. (Probably the reason he shafted Thrawn, so he wouldn't have effective competition)
Vader also sick of that old fart so he probaly let the Deathstar got blown to soff him off for good
@@xgcsurreal2608 A Good reason why Vader let the Deathstar got blown with Tarkin to prooft what pointless that base is
@@xgcsurreal2608Thrawn’s gonna be so happy when he learns that Tarkin died.
@@xgcsurreal2608 One of the reasons why I support Vader being the Emporer he would have been much more forgiving than Palpatine and removed flaws in the system like slavery(he is really against that one) and put competent people incharge like Thrawn and Pellion.
What’s most unbelievable about the imprisonment of Rampart js the Emperor didn’t need to actually imprison him. The Emperor could easily have gone through the motions of punishing Rampart only to have e him whisked into a secret team on any number of secret vault worlds or secret projects. In an Empire comprised of millions of inhabited worlds and, I assume, has many thousands of secret projects happening at any given time, the Emperor could have done it. But the other problem with being evil and narcissistic is you can’t be bothered to make that kind of effort.
He was publicly exposed as a traitor to the Empire, the one who destroyed its biggest source of combat protection, right in front of the whole Senate.
Palpatine doesn't have full control yet, so he has to be able to show Senators who might be curious about what happened to this galaxy-class traitor that his "Imperial Justice" is being delivered.
There was also the fact that Rampart was overambitious and willing to go to extreme lengths to improve his position. Sending him elsewhere without punishing him could make things even worse
Rampart stole Alan's beard
0:04 Also Palpatine: "I love democracy. I love the Republic."
What do you expect? he's a politician, he LIED.
Then in Episode III: Nor the Republic, nor democracy don’t trust me
He really should've loved democrocy. It's what kept him on top of his game
The empire really was a clusterfuck of donkeys leading lions (or in Thrawns case, lions leading donkeys). If Rampart had the good fortune to be placed under Thrawns command insead of Tarkins he would likely have become one of Thrawns most trusted officers, the guy he trusts to run things.
And the good guys would've been *screwed*
To be honest Vader would’ve probably liked Thrawn and asked him to overthrow the Emperor if he could’ve provided a way to do so. I’ve always believed that Vader would’ve made everything better if he ever became Emperor, while cruel and needlessly evil it wasn’t unprovoked.
@@winslowa8317 Vader is not at all a political figure, and I think he knows that, contributing to why he never took advantage of moments he probably could've killed Palpatine and gotten away with it, until of course, the Return of the Jedi
@@williamnixon3994 My point wasn’t him being political, my point was he had better traits than Palpatine in terms of administrative direction. Palpatine was a beautiful politician and a great visionary, he was without question the opposite of a beautiful ruler and a great leader.
"The Empire is Broken"
You say that as if it wasn't intentionally made to be a pyramid scheme that only truly benefits Palpatine.
"Hey, hun! Would you like to be part of our glorious galactic empire?"
Clean shaven Alan will haunt my dreams like a creepypasta
Palpatine's command over the darkside was such that he could draw on the hatred and suffering of others to empower himself. Whats more, he was in his late seventies by the time the Clone Wars ended. Combined you begin to understand why he was so mask off post republic even though the Empire was far from complete. He would either find a way to extend his lifespan through plundering the galaxy, or die with the satisfaction he got to spend his golden years being cartoonishly evil.
Palpatine was the perfect Sith, so completely selfish he was willing to squander the thousand year old grand plan for no reason other than it didn't directly benefit him to execute it to completion.
Well, even then, in both legends and disney canon, it's clear he intended no one but himself to rule the galaxy and eventually the universe. He was constantly trying to cheat death through clone bodies and find a way to become immortal
Palpatine made the empire around himself and it fell with him
Still doesn't make sense. No totalitarian system has died with their leader. Lenin died, Stalin took his place, Stalin died Khrushchev took his place. HItler died and Donetz took his place, issue was the Reich was pretty much occupied by that point so everything was in tatters. Issue is Hitler had a succession plan. And I reject the very idea Operation Cinder exist it's the stupid and most ret*rded plot point scifi history. There is no way the Empire would of not had something in place in case Palpatine died. Even Palpatine himself should know he wouldn't live forever, even as a force user. No man in such a position of power would want their legacy destroy/lost and would have made measures to preserve it.
Socialist Albania, N*zi Germany, cambodia only to name a few regimes that didnt even pass the power to a successor but died along its "leaders" in real life.
I was under the impression that Rampart overestimated his own importance to the Empire.
He got perks, even believed in the New Order, but lacked the clout of someone like Tarkin or Mass Ameda, so when the Senate found out it his Star Destroyers that destroyed Tipoca City, he was the one left holding the bag. And the Emperor was able to put everything on him.
Its also sad to see people that served the republic and the empire see this chaos around them and either did nothing or decided to instead add more fuel to the fire by joining it knowing full well that it could've led to the destruction of the empire.
The Republic during the prequel era really wasn't any better than the Empire. It was extremely corrupt and only valued the wealthy core worlds. The outer rim was left to fend for itself. The Empire brought order to a fractured Galaxy.
That's not entirely fair - the Empire was established as a multinational police force guarding against the corruption and warfare that had preceded it. As soon as many Imperial personnel realised that the Empire really stood for widespread abuse of government power at the expense of civilian populations they jumped ship and joined resistance groups.
Vader had to kill so many incompetent officers because of people like Tarkin, but he can only be in so many places at once.
If Vader had killed Tarkin, the Empire might unironically have fared better. It probably would've still fallen eventually, but it would've bought them more time.
An excellent analysis of the Empire and its intrinsic deficiencies.
With respect to idealistic people like Rampart, you have two possible scenarios: first, the more they learn about how the system they support actually works, the more disillusioned they become and the more likely they are to ultimately betray it and defect, which is essentially what happened with Agent Callus in Rebels. Alternatively, they maintain their loyalty but come to see its leadership as the ultimate source of imperfection and conspire with like-minded people to overthrow it. A perfect example of this in real life was Claus von Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators in the July Plot. Whatever the case, it's only a matter of time before they become a threat to those in power.
Thus, his face turn (assuming that's what the writers of the show intend) doesn't come as a complete shock.
So basically an authoritarian police state is ideal, but Palpatine is too much of a megalomaniac to make it work, so replace him with a meritocracy with Grand Admiral Thrawn in charge instead.
You have two options, actually become a good and efficient ruler, or get rid of good efficient people around you.
Admiral Rampart grew a beard, Alan shaves his. Hmmm, conspiracy?
*thumbnail*
How the mighty have fallen on Admiral Rampart.
Thrawn's story is a perfect example of this. If the Empire hadnt been so focused a culture on glory, pretisige, and personal achievement, they would have been far more likely to see the wisdom in Thrawns tactics and projects (like the TIE fighter initiative) and apply them. The talent and quality were all stamped on by the power hungry, and thats what made the empire fall. So poetic considering that' quite literally what the dark side does to an individual.
James Norrington vibes anyone?
James Norrington do you fear death
I was thinking Bel Riose from Foundation series. Someone clearly capable but is sent to a penal colony for getting on the wrong side of the emporer
More Ernst Röhm. And maybe, Erwin Rommel. Although Rommel was never a true believer, just a supporter of Hitler.
Definitely mate
Alan's face looks different...
Put your facial hair back on Alan
he did a reverse Rampart 😂
@@jaketimberlake9023 exactly
He became 🤓
Lol 😂❤ Luv you guys 😊
"And run by a bunch of chaotic..." Good analysis. There are several authoritarian leaders available currently for comparison. I'd like to see your analysis of their organizations versus the Empire, as you started with Hitler's.
5:49 the shitty part is that all these shows revolve around “some how palaptine returned”
To put in in better terms, Palpatine's resurrection is based off the Dark Empire comics, where he continues to clone himself and transfers his spirit into new bodies that rapidly age faster as a result of his Dark side energies eating the clone bodies from the inside out. It doesn't help that in the comics, a royal guard named Carnor Jax also sabotaged the cloning process and made the Sith lord's supply of bodies genetically unstable, causing them to break down even faster.
To be fair, the concept is good, however it's badly executed in comics and in the movies.
Damn dude, going with the clean look.
A bit of the emperor's brain got fried when his face did.
🎶 somebody got a haircut 🎶
Thanks for noticing, I had it cut yesterday
The funniest thing is we all sang this in our heads with the following notes:
A, A, A, F#, B, A, F#
Im begining to think that deflected Sith lighting may have fried the Emperors brain a little..
I like how recently in Star Wars Media, they been actually showing “WHY” exactly The Galactic Empire are the “BAD GUYS.” 😉
Why the quotation marks? The empire is bad.... XD
Since when was that in question? Did people have a massive brain fart over this?
@@Slayer398: Actually YES, before the Animated Series, and Live-Action Shows, they never really showed The Empire do actual Evil Stuff other than The Death Star. All until now in recent Star Wars Media that has gone further in depth into The Empire’s Cruelty, and how the Real World could relate.
@@thedarkknight727 LOL. Because that's NOT "EVIL Enough?!" Seriously?! They blew a bloody planet up for shits and giggles, tortured a woman for information, and people need to have it rubbed in their faces continuously that the GALACTIC EMPIRE are not a bunch of fluffy bunnies?
@@thedarkknight727 So blowing up an entire PLANET for shits and giggles wasn't EVIL? Burning people alive wasn't EVIL? Slaughtering aliens "because" wasn't EVIL? (Jawas)
What exactly do you need to fill your bill to define as Evil then if those aren't good examples because that's beyond sad. Is this more of 'if we aren't hit in the face every 5 seconds that the empire is bad, they are good?" ala Palpatine who is every 5 seconds in SW news as doing something else MOAR EVIL!!!!
Great video sir. Love the detail and passion you have for it. Not sure it's a video you would want to make but if you were Palatines second instead of Tarkin in the beginning after the clone wars how would you have made the Empire work. What initiatives, reforms, focus would you champion and how would you have dealt with the insurgency?
you always gotta squeeze that helldivers reference in there (6:30)
1:14 Yo Alan’s bread just went into hyperspace and went to the unknown regions
Great video but the opening title is a misnomer. The empire wasn't broken, it was functioning as Palpatine intended it to. It was an extension of his self serving will, a pyramid of power where he was at the top and everyone else below him.
True but the empire could've reigned for hundreds of years if Palpatine put half the effort into the Empire that he did into the Republic. Its broken because its doomed; Palpatine's awareness of this fact (or whether or not that was by Palpatine's design) doesn't change the fact that The Empire as a whole (which is what the title of the video refers to) was broken because it was completely unsustainable. This led to Palpatine's demise at the end of the original trilogy which highlights one of the main themes of star wars; being a selfish leader and trampling on others will have a negative outcome in the end
@@CaptainBigman You are right, but it could never be any different. It is the way of the Sith. Literally the first tenet of the Sith Code says "Peace is a lie".
They strenghten themselves through conflict and see peace as stagnation -- Palpatine wanted his empire to be a reflection of him. One should never be at ease under the Sith rule. Not even the Sith Master.
It is a Sith Empire, even though it isn't officially called that.
The problem with government is that sooner or later administrations become lazy and corrupt and have to be replaced when the public finally get fed up. In a democracy this happens with a general election; in a dictatorship it happens through armed uprising, because there's no other option.
@@JayL- Yeah, the Sith are inherently self-destructive, no matter what method they employ or style, ultimately, a society can't run on Social Darnwinsim. Not even Nature runs on it.
How do you not have over 1 million subscribers? You've phenomenal content, and it's always relevant, in some manner, to what is going on right now around the world.
I love this channel! Where you give great insight and wonderful content on motives and politics, going through Star Wars with a fine comb other channels that say they are fans like ‘Thor Skywalker’ just give a barebones explanation as “I hope the Rampart situation doesn’t turn him into a rebel because that story has been told before” never mind the bad batch series show you great character development over three seasons. Those content creators that called this episode boring is simply because they could not be bothered to make their own connections for this character and his place in the wider story.
Good stuff, Alan, like always. I guess it's spring because it was time for the annual spring shaving.
Oh well beard gone, carry on.
If Rampart just reassigned Howzer’s unit and had another stationed on Ryloth, he would have gotten away with it.
Praise be to sweet baby Yoda, the Star Wars channel has provided more factually accurate info than 90% of UA-cam pointing out that the Aryans were Persians. Please for the love of the Great Father Skywalker, make a side channel on actual world history. I think you would do a better job than the vast majority of the current producers.
Who else was expecting Rampart was going to be Tarkin’s protege?
Excellent analysis. The Empire is an absolute flustercluck, and Tarkin is part of it. Fun, that.
oh bro I totally forgot this dude. Looks way different.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Palpatine never intended for the empire to be a stable or even properly functioning government. If anything the more unstable, dysfunctional, and cutthroat it was the better it served his needs of being a smokescreen to his true agenda. Let's not forget that in Bad Batch he's currently promising all the resources of the empire to an unstable, sadistic scientist to work on his pet project right at a time when his empire is trying to expand and consolidate its position.
The Emperor's Work Husband Tarkin was who sewed the seeds of the Emipre's fall.
The Automatons are invading in the West. Super Earth needs you Gen Tech.
Thanks Alan 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
7:00 and yet the Sith Eternal were able to build and staff a huge fleet of massive star destroyers each of which were armed with a planet-killing weapon…
Alan, what do you consider to be the star wars equivalent to the Mazda Miata?
looks like an a-wing flies like a droid trifighter?
I'm here for this answer.
@@GenerationTech you sure its not lukes speeder? open top ground vehicle, not a fighter
Bit of a counter point though is actually, a lot of leaders unfortunately are like Wilhuff Tarkin. However unlike Tarkin, most of them are willing to spend time on people worth the effort. In other words you exist to make your leaders look good, if you do it enough, eventually they will take notice and they will make you look good in turn.
I like the new look Alan
he fine af lowkey
If you want to make a comparison, Hitler with Palpatine. Hitler despite being an idiot at times knew when to and where to garner support, he started off with with the economic issues Germany was facing, then in time when he and the Nazis got into enough of a position of power he then shifted to propaganda tactics, he played on people's fears making Jews and enemy to target, gettign worse and worse over time, even came up with the whole Aryan Race nonesense. He always had consistant "enemies" to put blame on, his undoing came from overextending Germany's military into a 2 front war with most of Europe, he succeeded well politically, but failed militarily, but still he propped up loyal but devoted followers but still took some of their advice and placated to the people to some degree.
Palpatine on the other hand basically neglected the Empire, heck he was already laying the groundwork for his dark experiments during the Clone Wars, Mount Tantus and other secret locations like Byss in the old EU. He was rather egotistical. He'd have to be to willingly trust agents with these secret locations and clearly already had some of the Death Star starting construction. He propped up essentially yes men and didn't take long before placating the people wasn't important to him anymore. He constantly drove people and even military officers to despise him.
Honestly I'm surprised Rampart was still alive at this point. Palpatine can be even more brutal to failures then Vader is, as terrifying and brutal as Vader force choking an Imperial Officer to death or impaling them with a lightsaber its tame in comparison to how Palpatine would treat Imperial officers that screwed up in a big way hell even non-officers just ask Beval Lemelisk the Death Star Archetect who Sidious executed by throwing him to flesh eating bettles, then cloned and essence-transfered him only to execute him a second time by dropping him into a vat of molten copper and repeat the process. That's just one example you need also take a look at the Crimson Protectors in how they the most elite of the Emperor's guards were trained he'd have trainees at the end of the class paired up and have to fight each other to the death for a position in the guard, very often the two guard trainees were good friends and the trainees previous had trained in teams. Also overpreformers risked having to fight Darth Vader when Sidous and Vader both showed up when that happened Palpatine would select the best in the class and have them fight Vader to the death in an arena called the Squall and well anyone knows what happens when they have to fight Darth Vader one vs one you are dead no matter what.
But yeah given Palpatine's brutality towards anyone that draws his ire or hell even people that preform too good its surprising that Rampart was alive, albiet sent to waste the rest of his days in a labor camp and even more so considering Rampart was a loose end and Sidious doesn't like leaving loose ends alive just ask Lama Su and the Kaminoans as a whole; you'd think that he'd have used Rampart as a brutal example to any Imperial officers.
Just saying Rampart being alive is something that bastard can count himself lucky for considering that Sidious has killed people for far less and well the guy is a psychopath who enjoys killing people in messed up fashion the guy's first act on becoming a Sith was to murder his entire family something that very few Sith Lords are attributed as doing, the only other Sith of note to have done that was Darth Vitiate who like Palpatine was also a cold-blooded psychopath.
Ramparts problem was he got caught with something that was poltitically inconvenient at a time when the empire wasnt firmly entrench yet. If it had been 5 yeara later he'd have been fine.
How the empire made it 20 years is a Down right miracle.
12:24 ish. i've always wondered how they got those third person hologram footage. was there another ship just floating around recording stuff? lol
It's almost as if Star Wars is showing us that dictatorships don't work as a lesson for IRL
The irony of a system that promisses order be run by chaotic individuals
Had Vice Admiral Rampart replaced the clones on his ship with soldiers from War Mantle, his fate would have been different… until Tarkin figured out that Rampart would eventually take his position. At that point, Tarkin would set him up for failure and get rid of him. So, basically, Rampart was always one slip up away from prison. Or execution.
As for Palpatine, he would have been better off letting others be the face of government while he secretly manipulated things behind the scenes. That way, he could simply instigate a regime change to give the appearance of democracy while he still held the reins from the shadows. It’s kinda how DCAU Lex Luthor didn’t want to be President because he’d have to give up too much power.
After watching this video, I cannot helped but wondering what went through Palpatine's mind when he heard that Tarkin is no more and so did most of the high-ranking Imperial military officers onboard the First Death Star. Personally, I believed he went into total panicking mode because he had no idea what to do with this like at all. But what do you guys think?
Who is this man and what did he do to Alan?
If you were Palpatine's key advisor starting on the first day of the Galactic Republic, what would you advise Palpatine to do? This would make a great video.
Handrails and fall nets next to and inside every drop and bottomless pit the engineers keep insisting on building in our ships and stations.
You know Alan doesn’t look bad at all clean shaven, the Obi wan beard will be missed.
0:18 AAAH! Unexpected baby Alan face again!
Wow! It’s amazing how an animated series can so closely depict modern politics. I think bringing Rampart back in the picture will set up the remaining episodes. Will Rampart seek revenge on the Empire and assist the Bad Batch, or will he seek favor from the Empire and rat them out?
Yay Hell Diverse reference
8:00 what is the name of the background music ?
Who are you and what did you do to our host?
So if it wasn't for Tarkin, the empire would've been set for much longer
I will always say it. Absolutely no one did more damage to the empire then tarkin
Tarkin was the Rebellion's best recruiter after the destruction of Alderaan.
Palpatine's final vision was Dark Empire. He would be immortal and rule the galaxy completely through the Dark Side. The empire was never designed to last.
Looks so different 👀
empires broken? i thought you meant: shoddily built with papa palpatine not being thorough
The problem with competent people in an authoritarian government is, that they will always be a career threat to purely loyalist but incompetent colleagues... and superiors. No one in an authoritarian system will be willing to promote someone, who poses a threat to their own position, no matter how loyal they are to the "grand project". Competent leadership and authoritarian rule in practice can just never mix.
You are partially correct. Linguistically speaking, the Aryan peoples started in Ukraine and went on a population replacement campaign West and South. Basically replacing every population in Europe and most of the Middle East to northwestern, India.
When you lose a fight with a dolphin they always take what you most value. They took Alan’s beard. Those damn dirty fish.
Rampart's mistake: he was caught
This week's jumpscare is brought to you by beardless Alan
Beardless Alan doesn't exist, he can't hurt you...
Excellent video as always but you need to bring back the beard brother
I recall in the marvel Starwars comic adaptation there Wes a battle station named the Tarken.
Where is that scene of Rampart in the cell from?
Alan did you get glasses? Something seems different
Sorry this is off topic, but is that the Hudson River outside the window behind you?
And matpat said the empire was the good guys
Rampart's worst trait is defintely the fact that he looks uncannily like Woody from toy Story
Or what if Woody joined the Empire.
Anakin liked Tarkin in clone wars so I wonder if maybe that also played a part in Palpatine in having him around. A team up of Rampart and Thrawn at the top instead of Tarkin would've done wonders for the empire.
That friendship cooled off when Tarkin prosecuted Ahsoka in that kangaroo court. Palpatine was the only reason Vader did not wipe Tarkin off the face of the galaxy.
I never really understand why slavery is so huge in Star Wars. I know you can make the argument against droids for the empire. It was right after the clone wars and anti droid sentiment, all that. But a droid workforce is so much less resource intensive. You’d think the pros would out way the cons just from a practical standpoint. That’s not even mentioning the moral implications that go along with slavery.
Same
Kinda makes you wonder how the hell the Galactic Empire even lasted as long as it did. It's no wonder why it fell to the Rebel Alliance. 😂
Wow how young he looks 😮
Where is Allen's beard? Is it safe? Is it alright?
I used a new trimmer attachment... i'm an idiot
@@GenerationTech Ohh so it wasn't exactly a voluntary change of style, I see lol
An imposter! Doppelganger! Alternate!
Who is on my screen!?!?
I was very surprised that Palpatine didn't order Rampart's murder - after all, he was a self-centered opportunist with access to top secret information.
It was a message. F up not so badly, lifetime prison to think about your failure. If Tarkin had survived the Death Star's explosion, he wouldn't have survived his court martial for incompetence.
@@entilzha1283 Thinking about things like "messages" to his minions is a sign of empathy, which Palpatine was organically incapable of.
Thrawn was successful because he bypassed the "Tarkin Pipeline of Incompetency"
Waiting for Alan to blame tarkin for why stormtroopers have such bad aim
please can you make a video about how the bad batch will brake omega out. I love your videos
i shudder any time u bring up somthing from the sequls as if they where more then horible fan fiction 😂😂😂
14:57 Those with talent went to the rebellion.That's what I meant to say.
Instead of getting killed off by grand avenue grand avenue grandma's target
All who gain power, are afraid to lose it.
Ah you missed that he was also expendable, and a good scape goat if necessary.