Sacred Datura Shares its Wisdom With Antonio

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  • @sunnyfernandes2581
    @sunnyfernandes2581 3 роки тому +115

    Tried it , few ( seeds at a) time microdosing , once a heroin addict saw me taking them and inquired what it was , since I knew how potent they were , I refused to let him have the seeds , he then pulled the entire package from my hands , and swallowed them , a few months later, I saw him totally sober , and he told me about it , how he had his excrement totally black , I guess that was his detoxification from heroin. He is now a changed and sober man

    • @Powerwolf77
      @Powerwolf77 3 роки тому +28

      The gods or demons from the stories I've heard showed him the error of his ways.

    • @LookingGlass69
      @LookingGlass69 2 роки тому +28

      Datura slapped him all the way to Sunday

    • @roadsidebong6333
      @roadsidebong6333 2 роки тому +22

      Black stool means bowels are bleeding

    • @himalayancare7449
      @himalayancare7449 2 роки тому +12

      @@roadsidebong6333 Not always, eat anything with a natural black dye to it and your stool will also be black..

    • @roadsidebong6333
      @roadsidebong6333 2 роки тому

      @@himalayancare7449 stop talking shit

  • @nobodyofimportance3922
    @nobodyofimportance3922 Рік тому +25

    The issue with Datura plants (and the alkaloids contained therein, Scopolamine, Atropine, and Hyoscine) is that the dose required to 'trip' is very close to a fatal dose. The potency is also extremely variable, one seed pod could be very weak while another could be so strong that a few seeds could kill you. Unless you're able to isolate the compounds you want from the plant, it's impossible to know how much scopolamine, hyoscine, and atropine you're actually ingesting. It's just not a good idea. The 'trip' itself is also extremely dysphoric and prone to causing lasting damage, both physically and psychologically, because these compounds are anticholinergic. Acetylcholine is essential in regulating your vital life functions, so when you put scopolamine in your body, the 'trip' is essentially just your body entering a state of near death, subsequently breaking down communication between regions of the brain involved in creating your perception of reality. Taking this in the amounts needed to 'trip' is tantamount to poisoning yourself. I just don't see any reason to do this when there are other, safer hallucinogens that can give you more insight and more reward at a much lesser cost

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for this detailed breakdown. Very informative 😃

    • @brettlott570
      @brettlott570 Рік тому +2

      Wow it’s scary reading your comment. I ate a vial full twenty some years ago and seems like I could have been close to death. I definitely felt like I was dying of thirst even though drinking plenty of water.

    • @nobodyofimportance3922
      @nobodyofimportance3922 Рік тому +1

      @@brettlott570 I'm glad you're alive bud. What made you want to take a vial of the stuff?

    • @junglie
      @junglie Рік тому +1

      yep just say know to say NO to this one, not to mention the horrible dry mouth & taste of the horrible stuff.

    • @jamescapb3795
      @jamescapb3795 11 місяців тому +2

      You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart
      Jeremiah 29:13

  • @PunkRockSlovenija
    @PunkRockSlovenija 3 роки тому +35

    1986 when I was 18, I ate some 13 or 15 seeds of datura angel trumpet. I was 3 days high as hell. With big black eyes. Almost blind. Hell of stuff.

    • @fkeita67
      @fkeita67 3 роки тому +1

      0_0

    • @charlesbogle6544
      @charlesbogle6544 3 роки тому +2

      How are you doing now?

    • @PunkRockSlovenija
      @PunkRockSlovenija 3 роки тому +12

      @@charlesbogle6544 since delirium tremens alcoholicum in july 2004 I am clean of alcohol. Since 2008 I am nonsmoker. No alcohol no drogs. Just water and coffee. Now I am 54. Very healthy man.

    • @charlesbogle6544
      @charlesbogle6544 3 роки тому +5

      @@PunkRockSlovenija That is great to hear! Long live Vakcinsani and Rock and Roll 🤘😤🙌

    • @PunkRockSlovenija
      @PunkRockSlovenija 3 роки тому +4

      @@charlesbogle6544 thanx. All the best wishes for you!!!

  • @amancayborda
    @amancayborda 3 роки тому +25

    I have a strange relationship to datura. She shows up mostly in meditation but sometimes also in some kind of altered state I've seen her growing up to my old balcony but she also sings and protects me within her.
    I have never tried datura but I don't understand why she calls for me. Naturally she makes me curious but I respect her to much to think that I would be able to handle her.
    Thank you for the video it was interesting.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +16

      Plants and other beings call to us for many reasons. Your thoughtful and deeply reverent approach to the song of this powerful medicine is something very important to note. I encourage you to learn more and understand that datura in any form can only harm those who lack knowledge of and respect for the many uses of this sacred mother. Blessings on your journey and thanks for subscribing.

    • @reyann123
      @reyann123 2 роки тому +4

      I have so many datura in my house and it can help for medication herbal for my mother who had a mayuma and for me this is not poisonous plant

    • @kaleysymons7448
      @kaleysymons7448 2 роки тому +4

      I hear you ..I am here for a similar reason..After finding a random video on you tube and was intrigued by her power..I came across her beauty growing in a pile of compost that was left on our farm by our neighbour..I did more research and then after a random drive with my daughters I came across another plant bursting with mature seeds..I took a few pods repeating to myself that I wouldn’t take them but wanted to just hold them and feel them And so also feeling her in me.. like a gentle but powerful presence to be respected and revered but I am afraid that I am not mature enough and that I may not understand what she has to teach..I wait patiently .. for what I do not know

    • @xxxxxxxxxxx-ps8pn
      @xxxxxxxxxxx-ps8pn 2 роки тому +4

      @@progressivemusicnepal datura is not a drug. If u do datura once, you will leave everything and be a good boy.
      You literally face demons while on datura

  • @Bingo_the_Pug
    @Bingo_the_Pug 3 роки тому +37

    If there was a “cure pill” that you could take that would snap you back to normal within a few minutes, that will be my only condition if I was offered Datura

    • @Mint6009
      @Mint6009 3 роки тому +1

      Antipsychotics might work but propably not that well

    • @lance-biggums
      @lance-biggums 3 роки тому +2

      You'd still have to have a sober sitter to force it diwn your throat or else you'd forget all about it while you went insane

    • @roberto125919
      @roberto125919 3 роки тому +4

      @@lance-biggums Yeah seriously people don't understand truly losing reality.

    • @itsyaboyskinnnypimp42069
      @itsyaboyskinnnypimp42069 2 роки тому

      @@Mint6009 benzos combined with anti psychotics would be perfect

    • @brandonwestphal3093
      @brandonwestphal3093 2 роки тому +2

      Cholinergic substances reverse the effect

  • @curlyhairdudeify
    @curlyhairdudeify 2 роки тому +3

    I see them sometimes growing in some random places, then a few days later I come back, and the plant is gone.

  • @withlovemora
    @withlovemora 3 роки тому +8

    Loved this video. Thank you for sharing. You had great insight on this beautiful plant 🌟🙏🏽

  • @phoenixrose7952
    @phoenixrose7952 2 роки тому +15

    A random datura popped up at my moms and now I have a lifetime supply of seeds from that one plant. As a pagan, this is so special to me💚

    • @luciusiluvatar7357
      @luciusiluvatar7357 2 роки тому +5

      Treat it with respect and be careful. Set and setting are always important, especially with something so powerful.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому +7

      That's a blessing, but please do not ingest datura without proper knowledge or intent.

    • @jamescapb3795
      @jamescapb3795 11 місяців тому +2

      You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart
      Jeremiah 29:13

    • @Ellaroseakers
      @Ellaroseakers Місяць тому

      How do you use it in ritual safely?

  • @Nathanwatchingstuff
    @Nathanwatchingstuff 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful plant. The one i grew from seed didn't get that big but had amazing flowers.

  • @jasper4574
    @jasper4574 2 роки тому +10

    I have just discovered your channel, and I have been growing the Solenacae family in the United kingdom for some time now... these plants are beautiful and powerful. you seem to have an amazing perspective on these plants and I hope to watch more of your videos in the future!

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому +6

      Thanks so much for your comment. I have actually never seen cultivated datura as it grows wild across most of Southern California and is still considered by some to be a noxious weed. I am glad you enjoyed the video, blessings!

  • @divided_and_conquered1854
    @divided_and_conquered1854 Рік тому +1

    It's great to see a man who enjoys discovering new and odd plants - it's great to see a man with a passion. Cheers.

  • @thelightworker8000
    @thelightworker8000 3 роки тому +15

    Keep it up man, very entertaining. You deserve a bigger following

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your support! It means so much as we build the channel. Please subscribe and check out casadeculturas.com to learn more.

  • @joshuawayne9811
    @joshuawayne9811 3 роки тому +11

    Man, I love you're energy and outlooks. I hope to cross paths with you someday.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +9

      Thank you for your wonderful comment! I hope to cross paths with myself someday, so far I have been pretty elusive. See you on the trail!

  • @Rhiannoncout
    @Rhiannoncout 3 роки тому +19

    It's baffling to me that so many native and sacred plants are called weeds.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +15

      It was a way of demonizing and marginalizing native medicine and non western healing modalities. It's still going on it's just less obvious these days. Many cultural groups are reintroducing these plants and the healing traditions they represent but there are too few elders trained to maintain the knowledge handed down over generations. Thanks for watching, blessings!

  • @WeaponizedGoochsweat
    @WeaponizedGoochsweat Рік тому +1

    One grew near a big field I patrol for work. It was very cool to see but I have to make sure people trespassing there don't bother it.

  • @Powerwolf77
    @Powerwolf77 3 роки тому +3

    ♥️this is great you have a wonderful presence and soothing voice I'd love to learn more of the things in your back yard..

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks so much for your kind words. We are working to build the channel in positive, thoughtful ways so I can keep telling these wonderful stories.

  • @glamgardenernyc
    @glamgardenernyc 3 роки тому +4

    Great video! We’ve got datura here in nyc too.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +4

      Its all over the place actually. Datura is found world wide in some form. The nickname 'jimson weed' is derived from Jamestown in Virginia. Thanks for watching!

  • @brennickler
    @brennickler 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for creating this informative and well-structured video, taught me a lot.

  • @himalayancare7449
    @himalayancare7449 2 роки тому +6

    I wish there was more information about this Nawuvi people and their shamanic practice with this plant. Do you know of any books or documentaries on these interesting people?

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому +4

      The Nuwuvi or Chemehuevi don't have much written about them but there is a new movie, The Last Manhunt and books by Clifford Travser who has worked with the tribe that share stories and traditions from the Paiute culture. Look up Matt Leivas and the Salt Song as well. Mr. Leivas is tribal chief and culture bearer for the Lake Havasu Chemehuevi/Southern Paiute people.

    • @himalayancare7449
      @himalayancare7449 2 роки тому

      @@kokopellispritjourney I greatly appreciate your speedy response. Thank you very much

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому

      @@himalayancare7449thanks for your interest in this fascinating and ancient culture. Please make sure to subscribe and share this. I visited Matt Leivas at Lake Havasu recently and will be releasing a video about my journey very soon. Blessings!

  • @nelliesfarm8473
    @nelliesfarm8473 7 місяців тому +1

    Ive grown a few of these...im an herbalist and always wanting to learn more about plants medicinal properties..i read that you can place a few leaves of this in a bucket of water , and soak your feet in it for pain relief..despite having chronic pain, ive not tried it. 😂

  • @UncleWintersDisdain.
    @UncleWintersDisdain. Рік тому

    I found a plant in wisconsin. Had to take a seed pod but just to grow lol

  • @anamarianeghirla8190
    @anamarianeghirla8190 3 роки тому +4

    So what would happen if you eat one seed? I just saw a video with some kids that were passing on a cigarette, just that the cigarette was only in their trip. I find it so interesting to actually have the same trip. Not for the fun of it, just interesting from any perspective. Wondering what was it’s initial purpose.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +5

      One seed may not do much but it probably doesn't taste good. As I mentioned in the video, datura has been and will continue to be used medicinally and for ceremonial purposes since time immemorial, but it should only be used/administered by those trained in the healing or spiritual realms. Thanks for watching!

    • @socialmediaaccount404
      @socialmediaaccount404 3 роки тому

      Ive always felt drawn to it. I have one growing next to me as I type this. Ive been gathering info on it slowly for years. It seems like the safest way to take it is as an ointment. Ive tried making one myself but I don't think it came out strong enough to do anything. Don't eat it. One seed could either do nothing or badly hurt you. ( Im not saying make an ointment either)

    • @luciusiluvatar7357
      @luciusiluvatar7357 2 роки тому

      Would effectively be a microdose. Could have useful medical properties but probably not noticeable psychoactive effects.
      But be careful...

    • @hydra8138
      @hydra8138 Рік тому +1

      If you smoke it it has very enjoyable effects because the atropine gets broken down so you don’t get the “poisoned” dry feeling

  • @diablominero
    @diablominero 3 роки тому +4

    If you want to fuck with deliriants, go for DPH. At least DPH isn't a natural product, so you know how much you're getting. Datura and Brugmansia will wreck your shit.

  • @sabinakoka7967
    @sabinakoka7967 Рік тому +1

    I'm searching this flower for the amazingly good smell that it has

    • @elektronrider
      @elektronrider Рік тому +1

      Youre looking for the Brugmansia Datura. That's the one that smells very intense, mainly in the night. The ones in this video, smell much fainter, sometimes not at all.

  • @Rightly_Divided
    @Rightly_Divided 4 місяці тому

    I got loopy just from smelling the flowers

  • @Creative_soil
    @Creative_soil Рік тому

    I'm wondering if I could use it for pest control

  • @Dreammeditaterepeat
    @Dreammeditaterepeat 2 роки тому +2

    This one is on my list, when our paths cross in the right way, with an experienced guide, someone who has worked with her.

  • @alastair7095
    @alastair7095 3 роки тому +19

    I’ve never heard of a datura experience to be a positive one. It’s a very pretty, decorative potentially lethal weapon of mental and physical torture imo 😂
    Psychedelics are for enlightenment. Datura is for your enemies lol

    • @joshuawayne9811
      @joshuawayne9811 3 роки тому +2

      You're not supposed to take datura to get high, and you're not supposed to smoke or drink it. The ideal thing to do is to gently hotbox a tent or something with smoke or vapors from the plant or extracts, but mixed with other calming things like cannabis, sage, lavender, roses, etc.
      And again, you're not trying to get high. You're trying to discover yourself, your demons and the datura goddess.

    • @alastair7095
      @alastair7095 3 роки тому +6

      @@joshuawayne9811 that’s the mentality I apply to psychedelics.
      Datura is a deliriant with a high propensity for permanent damage. And the lethal dose is quite small too. I’ve never heard of anyone that walked away from a datura experience with anything positive to say.
      For self exploration, it seems much more accessible in a psilocybin (mushroom) experience. It’s much safer to take mushrooms too.

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  3 роки тому +4

      @@joshuawayne9811 that is as fine an answer as I could have provided. I myself would never partake without guidance from someone well experienced in its ways. That being said, my Nuwuvi and Maringa advisors for whom this plant still holds tremendous significance, have never offered and I prefer other forms of medicine.

    • @goatmilk666
      @goatmilk666 2 роки тому +8

      I've only had positive experiences from datura. It's best to deeply inhale/huff the fresh flowers for a couple minutes or less. The dose is low enough to still be very spiritual but not too high to be uncomfortable

    • @john-ic5pz
      @john-ic5pz Рік тому +1

      there are but not many. the two I know of were ppl who respected it and toloache.
      ppl who take it to "get off" or to break up a boring weekend are probably all in for a bad trip.

  • @KlausRosenberg-et2xv
    @KlausRosenberg-et2xv 11 місяців тому +2

    I took the tea from a datura flower once, only 1 flower in a teacup oh water. I almost died, I was trying to literally commit suicide. I was so depressed.
    Never take datura or whatever Solanaceae unless you want to die.

  • @shanvmw
    @shanvmw 9 місяців тому

    I was by a lake with my brother and i was attracted to a vine that was growing, i puled it out hanging over nearly falling in, i planted it by my pond and then a few weeks later on my ytube recommendations there was a clip about the moon flower. Terrence Mckena says these things call us out. What does this mean? Ive been struggling with addiction.

    • @JU_JU517
      @JU_JU517 7 місяців тому

      Don’t take it ! I has no spiritual meaning

  • @Gislileet
    @Gislileet 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting stuff

  • @grandspringdale1564
    @grandspringdale1564 3 роки тому +4

    I'd listen to this man if I was all of you. From what I can tell this is nothing to be playing games with😟

  • @detachedloop1004
    @detachedloop1004 10 місяців тому +2

    Datura is offered to Lord Shiva by the hindus.

  • @jamescalvin488
    @jamescalvin488 3 роки тому +14

    I love your intent but datura metel and brugmaseia have long religious and medical use in both India South America and America scopolamine(One of the main plant compounds) is a common anti-nausea. These plants in their natural forms are still completely safe when a verified legitimate professionals are using it in conjunction with other herbs ceremoniously this has been proven. No one should mess with this plant for fun other than decoration, leave it to the professionals!! Love the video!

    • @3x0l37u5
      @3x0l37u5 3 роки тому +5

      I agree. Foolish and irresponsible misuse leading to terror experiences and hospitalizations/death give this amazing plant the bad reputation that it has.
      Out of the three tropane alkaloids present, Atropine is the most toxic one. It is cardiotoxic and stimulating, causing sharp anxiety and the horror stories everyone describe their experiences as. Hyoscyamine, while to a lesser extent, is also toxic. Consumption of these in the form of plant matter is a stupid idea. However, plants such as henbane and mandrake have far more favorable Scopolamine to Atropine ratio and have much less variance in potency, so if one absolutely must, they should research henbane/mandrake and safer routes of administration such as preparing topical ointments, smoking blends or special brews that have other compounds to neutralize atropine.
      Scopolamine is neither stimulating nor toxic at the doses required for delirium. Scop is usually sold as travel sickness and nausea medication. Using lone alkaloid scopolamine gives no such horrific and dysphoric experiences as most have with datura/brugmansia seeds or otc medicines such as dph.
      Body load is unavoidable unfortunately, but it isn't as bad and definitely bearable, especially compared to the painful stimulating atropine. Body load begins at 3mg, dose from 3-4.5mg puts one in a dream like trance headspace, frequently nodding off and waking up from realistic profound dreams. At 5mg begins delirium, but one retains relative awareness and can use common sense to differentiate between hallucinations and delusions from reality. Doses approaching 6mg will put you in an uncontrollable delirium, with 7.5mg being totally delirious and going above that will only extend the duration of delirium rather than intensity, so it is recommended to stay below 7.5mg.
      With scopolamine, the delirium is not at all scary in any way, it is a fearless experience in fact because of the nice anxiolytic effects of scopolamine. Even doses as high as 7.5mg can safely be experienced if you set up a safe comfortable environment, away from other people for at least 24 hours, but mental and physical preparation is important. Meditate and prepare for the journey and keep calm at all times.
      It is a very profound and insightful experience exploring bounds of ones consciousness, but insight can be derived with doses ~3mg and meditation as well.
      Scopolamine becomes toxic beyond 10mg, so stay WELL below that, and take AT LEAST 3 month breaks between doses, longer with large doses such as 7.5mg. Frequent use especially with large doses will cause permanent memory loss, but with long breaks and responsible use, there is no way you will cause any cognitive impairment.
      Of course as with any substance, harm reduction must be thoroughly researched before consuming anything, and only after you are fully acquainted with risks and proper usage should you consider it.

    • @bobaseed4423
      @bobaseed4423 3 роки тому +1

      @@3x0l37u5 How long does a datura delirium last?

    • @3x0l37u5
      @3x0l37u5 3 роки тому +2

      @@bobaseed4423 delirium lasts anywhere from 3-9 hours in my experience, however body load and mild hallucinations in peripheral vision might last 24 hours.

    • @bobaseed4423
      @bobaseed4423 3 роки тому +1

      @@3x0l37u5 Oh okay well before i started even taking datura i would see things in the corner of my eye often things like shadows a fly or just a small stone being moved by the wind on the ground but soon after taking datura i believed that this was called "Tripping" i was convinced for months that i was still high and that i haven't came back but now i realise that my vision is really bad and that everything i look at slightly moves and flickers

    • @3x0l37u5
      @3x0l37u5 3 роки тому +2

      @@bobaseed4423 hmm. Could be hppd but I'm not sure. I guess if it doesn't interfere with anything like reading or working it's not as bad, but personally I only have very mild hppd for a few days after scopolamine.

  • @flavorwaster
    @flavorwaster 2 роки тому +1

    subscribed
    good video

  • @aniki1934
    @aniki1934 2 роки тому

    Wait do you live in Watauga?
    I feel like I’ve seen u

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому +1

      My only experience in Tejas is a brief layover at the airport in San Antonio which bore a strong resemblance to purgatory. It took me years to get the smell of brimstone out of my clothes...

  • @kempaswe4022
    @kempaswe4022 Рік тому

    Got one big plant in a pot out in my yard, got 1000s of seed from it this summer and there are still alot of flowers on it

  • @melissajensen4901
    @melissajensen4901 2 роки тому +1

    The Shimowebi People (spelling??)

  • @Fayaska-t6s
    @Fayaska-t6s 3 роки тому +2

    How its trip?...

    • @bumble633
      @bumble633 3 роки тому +4

      if you like being strapped down in a hospital bed, incoherent and slobbering, ...

    • @colinsmith5879
      @colinsmith5879 3 роки тому +5

      There are countless datura trip reports here on UA-cam. Check them out and you'll see that's it's the LAST thing any sensible person would ever want to take. One way ticket to your own personal hell of delirium and horrific physical effects

    • @krich451
      @krich451 3 роки тому +3

      Completely unenjoyable, not insightful at all, absolute delirium. Not to mention dangerous as hell.

    • @roadsidebong6333
      @roadsidebong6333 Рік тому +1

      You would have a better time huffing gasoline

    • @GnosticElohim
      @GnosticElohim Рік тому +2

      It's pure hell! Every time.

  • @Vladimirunique
    @Vladimirunique 7 місяців тому

    Only a few people know how to handle it

  • @MAZOXFF
    @MAZOXFF 6 місяців тому

    How to smoke datura preview pleas

  • @andriesscheper2022
    @andriesscheper2022 Рік тому

    Definitely not a plant to experimente!

  • @nathan-ls8yw
    @nathan-ls8yw 2 роки тому +1

    with the ptsd i have if i want to try this i probably will have to lock all my guns and knifes away before im willing to try this

    • @kokopellispritjourney
      @kokopellispritjourney  2 роки тому +5

      Please do not try this. It is not something to take lightly. I am not recommending this but things like CBD and THC are said to help with stress and anxiety. Your health and sanity are more important than experimenting with this blessed plant. Be safe and blessings to you.

    • @nathan-ls8yw
      @nathan-ls8yw 2 роки тому +1

      @@kokopellispritjourney ik man🙃 just making a observation. and cbd did help alot for my ptsd after the military but thanks anyways

    • @GnosticElohim
      @GnosticElohim Рік тому

      That's very dumb, don't try it. It's not going to help your ptsd in any way.