"Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is the path to hell" - Niall Ferguson on U.S. College Campuses
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the failed prime minister of New Zealand is now at Harvard ... enough said...
1984 by Orwell should be required reading in all of free world.
I totally agree. Animal Farm is also great.
I think many people have read 1984 and view it as an instruction manual rather than a warning. Some people see it as a utopia to strive for.
@@gemox3225 It is for all socialists , It shows how even when the hard working animals revolt and for a short time establish a more egalitarian and less abusive society the psychos return and corrupt and take back that which they wrongly consider thier right ..
Orwell was Left wing a socialist ,, 1984 is showing the evils of dictatorship, .At present there is no Left threat the threat is from a market dictatorship. The Market a demi god which dictates all decisons and outcomes,.A Dictatorship. Orwell wrote aginst dictatorship from any polical direction , Of course Right wing people have blinkers about thier own forms of dictatorship..
"Equity is the foe of justice"-Schopenhauer.
Very true. Indian here.
We have a society where the so called “upper class” have to live in constant terror because the whole system is against them.
When my son applied to the US universities for his masters he found it was too totalitarian and decided to go elsewhere.
Now this stuff is coming via financial institutions across the globe.
Tremendous. Well done.
Thankyou!
"Right to say stupid stuff" EXCEPT WHEN YOU CRITICISE That one special COUNTRY
Think how many people are winning places at top universities not because of their abilities but because of who they are.
Well stated !
* what they identify as.
Ooops! That misfired, didn't it?
Pure brilliance.
Thankyou keep supporting.
Really - memories must be short? Niall Ferguson sucked his thumb and cowed (and contributed) to DEI policies when he first went over to America. Now he's speaking what other braver souls were speaking about in the 70s and 80s (and getting cancelled for). The winds must surely be changing if he now feels brave enough to speak his mind.
@@frankyyaggabot6222 People can change, Franky - and should. Good for him.
@@stevej9058 Oh he did a lot of damage - there are Faculties in Harvard that are staffed the way they are because people like him gave entry to 20 year old wonder Professors who were lauded for their absence of gonads or skin colour (and who have subsequently accomplished nothing but compound the rot therein).
He knows the culture well because he was a part of it! Still waiting for his mea culpa moment before he gets any kind of redemption or credit for change. I do like some of his work but he's become so boring and pretentious that one could mistake him for an English gentleman.
I suspect he himself hasn't changed in so much the winds around him have, as he is now vociferating the prevailing ideologies of his new employers in Texas.
Listening to the full interview on a podcast, I'm so pleased that Niall rebuked the interviewer for repeatedly interrupting his answers before he had finished them. It was genuinely very irritating to have her constantly saying "but..but...but" while he was still talking.
She asked good questions but really needs to let her guests speak fully.
It's too late, DEI is everywhere, UK and Australia.
thomas sowell explained decades ago
In the U.S, Over £2.64 billion worth of athletics scholarships are provided annually to around 180,000 athletes.
This is a stupid waste of money and effort that could be diverted to innovation. No one talks about this genuine insanity.
They more than make that money up through TV deals and ticket/merch sales. The big athletic programs are huge net positives for universities. They use those profits for a wide array of academic purposes. Athletic scholarships also opens the door for college education for traditionally marginalized groups
@@uclakirk Guardian newspaper:
The plantation dynamics of college sport today are most readily apparent in the elite power five conferences (the ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Pac 12, and Big 12) and the sports that bring in the big money: football and basketball. In the 2018-2019 season, the 65 power five universities generated $8.3bn in revenue between them. Yes, 8.3 billion. As Watson succinctly puts it, “There’s still a lot of revenue going out there.” Yet, that money does not find its way into the pockets of the disproportionately Black athletes responsible for generating it. While only 5.7% of the students at the PWIs that make up the power five are Black, that number surges to 55.9% for men’s basketball, 55.7% for football, and 48.1% for women’s basketball. These athletes receive only cost of attendance scholarships in exchange for their labor. In many cases, they do not even receive health insurance.
So, where do those billions go? Well, the primary beneficiaries are the coaches, athletic department officials, and university presidents who oversee their work. White people disproportionately rule the campus athletic work in the power five conferences, whether at the level of chancellors and presidents (84%), athletic directors (75%), or head coaches (81% of men’s basketball coaches, 82% of women’s basketball coaches, and 80% of football coaches). The denial of compensation to the Black athletes who drive revenue is the single most damning dimension of the plantation dynamics of college sport.
It’s all the ‘egos of the universities’
@@uclakirk They make 8.5 billion in profit from sports, and as roughly 50% of sports participants are black ,minorities are being short changed by 2 billion.
@@claudiaxander Notice I’m responding to a post that has a complete lack of understanding of the economics of athletic programs in American universities. Your argument, that the profits are not distributed fairly, is valid, but it’s a different discussion. I agree, but that’s why the NIL is being instituted, which will hopeful help by allowing student athletes to be paid (although that model has its own set of difficulties…we’ll see).
I agree with this guy. Its really important people are able to speak out about this stuff.
You mean like he is... On a stage.... At a conference. And everywhere else people are complaining of being "cancelled" while you're watching them on social media. Yeah.
@@djmartens123 Perhaps the reason so many people are speaking out about it is because there are so many attempts at silencing going on...
@@DS-rd9qndefinitely not silencing. You’re confusing it with just being held accountable. It’s not hard. Everyone everywhere is entitled to the same rights. If you feel attacked by other historically suppressed groups finally being able to exercise the same rights as the unrepressed ones, that’s a huge you problem.
spot on. I don't even think the words are nice !
Magnificent
Here in Singapore where I live there are Chinese, Malays, Eurasians and Indians, and there are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists and even some Jews. We've been able to do pretty well for decades. In China during the Tang Dynasty there were also Greeks, Romans, Jews, Persians, Arabs etc. Maybe even a few Celts and Norsemen.
This has been going on for a long time in the US.
Define a LONG time? I've been involved with the US academia and the woke insanity is no more than 10, maybe at the most 15 years old
@predragtosic. When I entered graduate school at the University of Pennsylvania in 1987, most of the current Woke ideas were already entrenched. Only then it was called by a different name - political correctness. And CRT authors started writing in the 70s, I believe.
@@gemox3225 Hmmm... I'm assuming you were involved with social sciences and/or humanities, i.e., closer (than e.g. me) to the root cause of the problem. Jonathan Haidt's interviews and writings on the topic are quite insightful, IMO.
Don’t always agree with him, but on this I do. Strongly.
Take a quick look at clips and highlights as well.
How true.
Thankyou.
The Brilliant Niall Ferguson....Dublin
Please listen to this man!
Watch the best parts of the episode in our clips and highlights to catch up on what you missed.
at least they applauded him
Brilliant mind and articulate to educate.
DEI - Didn’t Earn It
DEI must DIE
" The road to Hell is paved with good sounding, good feeling, good intentions" WER
" The road to Hell is paved with good sounding, good feeling, good intentions". Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The parasitic addicting mind deceives us
Great thinking. This man should be in politics.
Brilliant, and wise advice from a rich intellectual and lived-through experience.
Take a look at clips and highlights as well.
Real beneficial society values should be Knowledge, Merit, and Skill. Those should be values of school to equip skills to for future.
Can't belive im hearing niall being right about something for once
Niall Ferguson hombre.
Thank you Neil for the truth.
Don't forget to watch our clips and highlights to catch all the interesting segments in an episode.
Has DEI not arrived in the British universities?
It's been there longer than the USA...
A bit. The treatment of Katherine Stock was shameful. But no.
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Brilliant and true
The full interview is well worth a listen. However, the interviewer ought to learn to allow interviewees (the actual attractions) to complete their thoughts. Instead, the all too typical temptation of too many irritating interviewers is to herd the interviewee to agree with the interviewers' preconceived biases.
Completely agree
Agreed! However where are you now on net zero?
Precisely right. Uniformity of thought. Lockstep with far left ideology.
Too late, the ship has already hit the iceberg..
Niall Ferguson is 100% correct 👍 Protect democratic, freedom of thought, life and belief 🙌👏🙌🇬🇧
Too late my dear friend !!
He's a God! And very brave, obviously, saying such things today with all this madness around.🙏
Read his book.
"The ascent of Money"
@@charlesdarwin5185 🙏🙏🙏
Said it all
We have already started DEI here in Brasil. Additionaly, now is in course the process of selfcensorship, which is not visible.
He is absolutely right, the whole DEI rubbish is destroying everything it touches.
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions but the path of DEI is a road straight to hell with all intended malice
Oxford is the best university in the world, chum. And it is still a bastion of free thought.
Coming from the guy who predicted half the world would die out of corona 1984.
Neil, well said, Bravo Bravo Bravo. I feel this has also taken over the most prestigious scholarship in the World „Rhodes Trust“ and if we don’t act against it, the agenda will be deceiving a generation of students !
Protect conservatives ...nice
Theres a fallacy running here. In the physical world, there’s order and chaos, the universe is on delicate balance, and deviations occur, and forces, positive and negative exert their pull and push, so also matter and anti-matter in life as it goes in total paradox. You can glorify how much you ever want to distinguish matter, people, culture, they all fight, shake hands, come together, go separate ways in many ways in somuch as teetering to the brink before coming to order. That is a ceaseless operation. Do we overdo diversity, maybe. Do we necessarily see everything segregated to translate our actions into reality, maybe. It’s in the eye of the beholder.
At the end the host, who looks dismayed, and also looks like a sterotypical British lecturer, says, "But there is so much to say --" And the video cuts off!😆😆😆
Velocity of Money🎉🎉🎉
More equity is a the way to a less agresive and narcist society which is good for the great majority , It is only a small minority who feell some way inadequate unless they gather very large amounts of wealth ...The majority have to be kept on ration to supply their inferiority carachter problem --
DEI spells anti-white racism ie. 'good' racism!
There is nothing wrong with the Goals of DEI. It creates a world where people with real talent and drive succeed, not people who are the right race or class. The people against DEI are people who started life with a head start and when they are losing the race want to blame it on DEI not their lack of ability or drive. True conservatives believe that capitalism thrives when everyone is allowed to compete.
True! 100% agreed but how do we value real diversity, equity and inclusion? As uniformity and thought is the complete opposite of inclusion and certainly doesn't value equity or diversity.
A lot of assertion. Data?
Jacinda adern
He doeth protest too much , Methinks
Because I'm Hispanic,
family members with lower scores should be admitted to college,
and hired and promoted over those clearly more qualified?
Via its racism,
the Democratic Party has lost the vote of every Puerto Rican family member of the mainland.
We support a merit based life.
A 100% commitment to non-discrimination = a 0% commitment to diversity.
No other math is possible.
I’m genuinely curious as to your reasoning. How does non-discrimination lead to 0% diversity? It seems like an oxymoronic statement.
@@johnrossbleacher5381
I never said it would lead to no diversity.
Rather,
if one commits to "diversity" it's impossible not to also commit to discrimination.
Non-discrimination might of course result in "diversity", but, it might not. Which of course is fine.
Or in the name of diversity,
ask a Dem voter supporting racism/DEI/quotas -
.......should Hooter's stop only hiring young attractive women, and be required to hire fat old ugly men as waitresses? : )
The Three Slogans of The Uniparty Hegemony:
SPEECH IS VIOLENCE
FREEDOM IS DANGER
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH
No ody is saying speech is violence or that freedom is danger. Stop being a flake
@@johnn17golf you're kidding right?
You are too late to tell this damage already done
Yes for a while things are going to get very bad …more and more conflict but it never lasts ….from the suffering that arises from it some will seek the only solution which works …find peace within
He’s absolutely correct!!!
Checkout clips and highlights as well.
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Ok funny, enough
We're not America and British universities have done a very good job including others in the conversation. Having studied in US, must say that racism is a way of life over there and their colleges and schools are more segregated than anywhere in Europe hence the push to change that.
The US is a big country, more like a confederation of 50 smaller countries than a single entity. Where did you study?
Nonsense.
The problem with "including others in the conversation" is that you start to hear from a lot of people who don't have much to say.
I think many are looking for solutions in the wrong places…part of the problem is people try and change others when they feel their feelings are hurt rather than trying to change themselves so that whatever happens to them ( and everyone faces both criticism and praise at some time) they are not effected. This would be a far better use of one’s energy than to constantly look outside and blame others or situations…which is very tiring and is insolvable.
@@theinngu5560 no, the solution is to not carry on the hatred by passing your hatred to the next generation.
Hello white people!
All sounds anecdotal, is there anything with more substance and intellect?
Are you advocating for a small group of right-thinking students silencing fellow students for wrong think?
Are you living under a rock?
You are just salty aren't you that Woke is crumbling, and this is your desperate cope.
You are funny.
And pretending that this man lacks intellect when you are probably a fan of AOC and Biden is golden
😢NONSENSE 😢❤❤
How untrue.
Or in other words "I'm sick of being held to account when I break the social norms that I hold other people to."
@@jeffkitson9565 Niall is clearly upset that he is not allowed to say the things out loud that other people keep to themselves, unlike 2 decades ago when he used to go to Harvard.
@@djmartens123 What things?
@@markaurelius61 Well, he is saying diversity and equity are the path to hell so I think that's a bit of a giveaway as to his political ideology.
But I digress. I love listening to old rich dudes with British accents telling me that equity is bad. /s
@@djmartens123 But not people like Candace Owens or John McWhorter saying similar things? How racist of you ;)
Fatuous point
"Please don't hold me accountable" is a good summary for this clip
We have to hold ourselves accountable..knowing whenever we behave unethically there will be consequences…and less looking at how others are behaving unless that is a job we have taken on.
@@theinngu5560 facts. Some people are only interested in maintaining the status quo but we all have to grow.
Thank God, the students at Harvard see through this BS.
The concept of going to a university to learn something is outdated.
The curriculum takes too long before you can implement the knowledge. Also there is no businesscase on the return on investment. Above that the ‘teachers’ do not stimulate creativity but focus on ‘science’ is my experience .
My employer allows me to AYCL (all you can learn) and pays for any education I choose. So far not one single university has offered any future proof curriculum that is remotely valuable for me to invest my time in. I choose the more short iterated, dense and inspiring on-line executive programs. Brandname Universities in my opinion are just that: brands.
Another brexit hor
Going fast from intelligence squad to not so intelligent squad with this kind of guys
You must be a diversity hire…the speaker has a better resume than most.
@@darbyheavey406 I lost brain cells trying to find a coherent argument
@darbyheavey406 almost all the arguments against diversity have imprints of underlying hatred and insecurity. No sane mind can forget what we in the so-called West have been doing with the rest of the world in past a few centuries (and still doing), and can carry on arguing about such useless things in this day and age. The value of people who cause moral, philosophical, or political harm to society should not be understood by the looks of their resumes, but it is understandable that these things can be seen only by the eyes that can see without cultural and racial biases. All the best.
Rather than provide insights about the concerns of DEI and the backward sliding of academic standards at university, a real problem, Ferguson become performative here and appeals to emotion rather than evidence. While I disagree with his social assessment, though still enjoying his historical work, here he slides into empty emotive argumentation that’s parroting the vapid Jordan Peterson style of complaint rather than insight. I might disagree with him but I always thought Ferguson more insightful and more knowledgeable than this discussion presents.
It’s a catastrophe that we keep following the USA in economic policy despite the fact we know that Capitalism out of control is destroying society.
Capitalism makes the modern world possible. Before 1776 the world was much poorer…capitalism has eliminated abject poverty all over the world.
Mmmm... I dont trust this guy.
Not sure he'd be accepted at Harvard today! He's making money, and you're paying!
Utter drivel from Fergie. Nothing new there!
DEI isn't the problem, DEI as an initiative is good. Delivery of DEI can be & has been mangled.
If you are arguing that in a diverse nation, diversity is wrong, what are uou genuinejy saying?
How can equality & inclusivity be inherently wrong?
It comes down to force, sometimes it needs to be used (e.g. abolition of slavery or identifying & ending exploitation) but if force is akways used, you have a problem.
Conservative voices and people aren't excluded from the discussion but if those people are simply screaming "DEI is bad!!!" they're not going to get very far.
It's communism you fool
After clicking on the "like" icon, l realized l had made a grave error for siding with a rogue intellectual like NF.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb >>>>>> Niall Fergunson
John Mearsheimer >>> Niall Fergunson
Candance Owens >>> Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Candance Owens is awful
@@DS-rd9qn and Ben Shapiro?
Harvard used to be exclusive and elitist. What's wrong with it being diverse, inclusive and equitable? If a student or teacher expresses racist, homophonic or elitist views they should be argued with, mocked, shouted down, but not excluded.
You're so close. Nobody should be mocked or shouted down. One person's definition of racism or homophobia isn't necessarily the same as another's. We should never presume to have moral high ground for that is merely a form of elitism.
I agree. There are subtler ways of suggesting someone's opinions are misguided, even ridiculous. I guess I just feel the urgency of holding back this tide of bigotry and poor thinking. Few people have these skills nowadays; few schools teach debating nowadays.
The arc of history is lately bending toward diversity, equity, and inclusion, by which I mean adding to one's circle of care, increasing one's circle of empathy, and the people in your out group decreasing over time. Yet he's one of the people trying to halt that most obvious moral progress with his archaic backward regressive views just to maintain existing socio-economic hierarchies.
But you don’t get it! He and other old bigots can’t just spout off derogatory nonsense anymore and not expect to catch any crap for it. Can’t you see his world is crumbling?
You're not listening to what he said. It's not moral progress to force values into institutions that lead to diminution of merit, freedom of speech, and quality of output - it is regression couched as altruism.
@@johnrossbleacher5381 and yet you feel safe in sprouting derogatory nonsense knowing that you'll catch no crap. SMH.
He’s brilliant except when he supports Trump
He just uses slogans never gives facts why this leads to failure. Just slogans and he says like Stalin he sounds like the Nazis. And people do speak their minds in America. Stay in Britain worry about Britain not the USA.
What a ton of lies. Harvard and American universities are still the best, along Oxford and Cambridge. This guy is looking for sponsorship for his school.
Harvard is but a shell of what it once was.
This guy just outed himself as a fascist. Never liked him before, now I like him even less.
Brilliant again! 🌺
Glad you enjoyed the episode! Take a look at clips and highlights as well.
Harvard is Not a laughing stock
Harvard has become a laughing stock, believe me.
@@RobinDunbar-gj5ly only simpletons believe that, but carry on
@@snarkyboots when major benefactors start withholding donations, things are certainly not going well.
Let me sum up for Niall. "Let's continue a half millennium of racism, misogyny and domination by the billionaire class because making efforts to bring about an equitable just society gives me a headache." Thanks Niall.
Why would you be against DEI which seeks to promote the fair treatment and involvement of all people including women, older persons, ethnic minorities, disabled persons, LGBT persons and any other underrepresented people something Niall doesn't appear to be
Who r these weirdos?
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