How Much Faster Is A Pro Gravel Cyclist? | Beginner Vs Amateur Vs Pro

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  • Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
  • Anyone can ride gravel but how fast are the pros? We’ve enlisted the help of British national champion and 4th place finisher at UNBOUND Danni Shrosbree to go head-to-head with our amateur gravel enthusiast Manon and complete beginner Emma in two challenges, so let’s find out. This is beginner vs amateur vs pro: gravel edition!
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  10 місяців тому +6

    What do you love most about gravel cycling? 🚴 Let us know in the comments below! 👇

    • @chrisstrider
      @chrisstrider 10 місяців тому +7

      No traffic 😊

    • @sorenludwig3978
      @sorenludwig3978 10 місяців тому

      it feels faster then riding on the road.

    • @bardongalang32
      @bardongalang32 10 місяців тому +2

      You can do it on and off the road 🤘

    • @mikeainsworth4504
      @mikeainsworth4504 10 місяців тому +2

      Greater availability of sticks for when you forget your magic stand 😉

    • @Paganiproductions84
      @Paganiproductions84 10 місяців тому

      The single tracks 🤣🤣

  • @chrisstrider
    @chrisstrider 10 місяців тому +48

    Kudos to you amateurs Danni is a serious gravel monster….not many pro riders would want to be chased down by her

  • @andyharbin411
    @andyharbin411 10 місяців тому +22

    This video showed the joy of riding that we had when we’re kids. The whole reason to ride is to have fun.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Gravel is good at stripping cycling back to the basics and just enjoying the ride 🙌

  • @bonniemccreadie1079
    @bonniemccreadie1079 10 місяців тому +25

    Clearly Si is not the only one to forget the shadow stand!😂 Always love a Manon vid and well done Emma!

  • @bikecommuter24
    @bikecommuter24 10 місяців тому +9

    how much faster ?
    Beginner- Trying to make it to the Cafe.
    Amatuer- On the way to the Cafe.
    Pro- Waiting for the other two at the Cafe.

  • @Neilhuny
    @Neilhuny 10 місяців тому

    This is one of my favourite ever GCN videos! Completely honest and totally relatable - Emma, you are my hero!

  • @jamiefarrell6496
    @jamiefarrell6496 10 місяців тому +2

    Enjoyed this vid very much - gravel as fun between friends (that’s the “spirit of gravel” imo). Took me back to the halcyon days of the J-Pow gravel content!😊

  • @amishrider
    @amishrider 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice to see Manon getting some ladies' only screen time, she looked to be really enjoying herself. Good work team.
    Perfectly timed this vid, I'm doing the Kent Gravel Epic this sunday.

  • @georgebailey6307
    @georgebailey6307 10 місяців тому +4

    Knew it was a matter of time for Danni to make it to GCN!

  • @neilsmyth1812
    @neilsmyth1812 10 місяців тому

    the fun they all had doing this was a joy to watch. .more please. .

  • @happytrails1963
    @happytrails1963 10 місяців тому +4

    Had no idea gravel so popular. Thumbs up Emma for accept the challenge and give it a go hope she enjoy it. So fast! 10k vs 200k wow.

  • @dexterx9862
    @dexterx9862 10 місяців тому +1

    This video deserved more time being spent on it, it'd be great to see GCN take a beginner and change their life from a fitness cycling aspect

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde 10 місяців тому +5

    4th at Unbound??

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! What event would you like to see Manon do next?

    • @Velo757
      @Velo757 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gcnshe should try and do the transcontinental race... 🤔🚴🚵🚴😬

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому +1

      @@gcn Finish that fixed gear race in Germany if they still hold it.

  • @Adventuregirl96
    @Adventuregirl96 10 місяців тому +5

    They had so much fun, I would have enjoyed riding with them. Next time they can come ride where I live outside Seattle and enjoy out gravel.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      What's the gravel riding like round there?

    • @Adventuregirl96
      @Adventuregirl96 10 місяців тому

      @@gcn Close to my home there are some wooded parks where you can find some shorter trails like on your video. These are easy to get to and work well if you want to ride both on tarmac and some gravel.
      If you go to Port Gamble there are some access roads and some good single track. Just be careful since this is where the MTB bike park is and you might have to share the trails with the crazy GMBN crowd. Great rides though I take both my gravel bike and MTB and have fun no matter which one I do.
      My favorite though is to head over to the Olympic Peninsula and do some bike packing and ride the Olympic Discovery Trail and explore some fun seaside towns.
      If you are ever in the area you need to try the Chilly Hilly on Bainbridge Island and after you are done get some proper fish and chips.

  • @nerigarcia7116
    @nerigarcia7116 10 місяців тому

    Interested to see this with everyone on the same setup. That loop looks wonderful.

  • @cygnet68
    @cygnet68 10 місяців тому

    Emma smashed it! Would be great to see her back. Really nice to see crossover athletes who are newer to cycling but have some big watts from other sports - esp. rowers! 💪

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      Emma is a legend 🙌 We'll see if we can get her back in the gravel... if we can catch her 💨

  • @lolathecattheboys7817
    @lolathecattheboys7817 10 місяців тому

    Enjoyed this video. Would love to see more of Emma who was amazing as a beginner on gravel

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Emma smashed it... we'll see if we can convince her back onto the gravel? 👀

  • @habbahan
    @habbahan 10 місяців тому +37

    Don’t call carbon bikes and near-top groupset “beginners” please 😂
    I just got my true beginner gravel, full alloy and with Claris components. Now that’s a proper 😂😂😂
    Fun fact, I’ve put a new set of 48mm tires, which makes half a price of a bike 😅

    • @christoferstromberg6605
      @christoferstromberg6605 10 місяців тому +1

      Going by comments on other videos true beginner is bikes cheaper than €200 :D

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому +4

      What do you expect? It's GCN. They don't operate in the real world. Still love the channel though.

    • @jonpoon3896
      @jonpoon3896 10 місяців тому

      I dunno about your area. But group rides around here usually have beginners borrowing bikes. And since they’re owned by enthusiasts, they’re gonna be decent bikes.
      But for the sake of the video, it still demonstrates the difference between a beginner and pro’s ability

    • @lazypanda1493
      @lazypanda1493 10 місяців тому +3

      Exactly, I just got a canyon grizl 7 al and it’s like my dream bike, cost me nearly $2000 and the only thing carbon is the fork 😂

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 10 місяців тому +1

      I've got a 1990's Merida with a mix of vintage Deore DX, XT, and RSX components as a gravel bike... cost me the equivalent of 150 squids including having it powdercoated.

  • @williamhilliard7386
    @williamhilliard7386 10 місяців тому

    Good show , all different levels !

  • @racyagentmac
    @racyagentmac 10 місяців тому

    I gotta get myself a gravel bike always an awesome vid with manon❤👍🤘

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      Do it! You won't regret it 🙌

  • @orbeuniversity
    @orbeuniversity 10 місяців тому

    Awesome! This is somewhat of a random request: How did you film this? The camera shots are astounding. Would it be possible to have a "Behind the Scenes" video? It's just hard to believe that all the video footage was done by one camera person.

  • @ImAnEmergency
    @ImAnEmergency 10 місяців тому +6

    GCN has blessing us with Harriet and Emma as the newer riders!
    Also I don’t think Emma would have benefitted from clipless pedals in this format since as a new rider trying to compete in events like these, adding another stressor like clipless pedals would probably be more mental strain than benefit.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      Great point! For beginners just getting out riding is the number one priority.

  • @reinholdachleitner2069
    @reinholdachleitner2069 10 місяців тому

    Cool video,Emma is excellent for a beginner and the course was nice and flat for Manon.💯👌🏻✌🏻

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      They bossed it!

  • @BurtonHohman
    @BurtonHohman 10 місяців тому

    Close call with that child almost getting knocked out at the start of the 10k 😄 love these videos. It’s amazing seeing just how good pros are

  • @kangmi26
    @kangmi26 10 місяців тому

    Manon on black jersey.. gourgeus 😍

  • @jrlpking
    @jrlpking 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing camera work

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot!

  • @shellypalumbo5297
    @shellypalumbo5297 10 місяців тому +2

    Fabulous vid Manon and @gnc. I ❤ to see more content like this!!
    Women are the fastest growing demographic of new riders in the USA and there are now more and more serious venues for competitive racing every year worldwide.
    Thank you @gcn for your increasing efforts to bring women cyclists to the forefront. Kudos to y’all!!🥰
    I still believe that Manon would like a female cohost to work with her. Yes/no?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +1

      Great to hear you enjoyed it! Cycling is for all and we love playing our part in brining this to everyone. Great to hear you enjoyed the content 🙌 Would you like to see Dannie back on the channel?

    • @shellypalumbo5297
      @shellypalumbo5297 10 місяців тому

      @@gcn ok, I’m old and forgetful. LOL
      You have me at a disadvantage.
      I do not recall Dannie? You’ll have to remind me. Lol

  • @phillockwood8414
    @phillockwood8414 10 місяців тому +3

    That was a nice comparison. The good news for everyone is that the ability aside, the more miles ridden, the faster the rider.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Miles mean smiles 🙌

  • @bardongalang32
    @bardongalang32 10 місяців тому +2

    Liked it. That's nice weather out there. Nice environment too. I hope I can get my own gravel bike in a place like that here in the Philippines. 🚴🤘

    • @RyanAggabao
      @RyanAggabao 10 місяців тому +1

      Perfect ang gravel bike sa Pinas. Mabilis gaya ng road bike at matibay parang mountain bike. Uso ba diyan ang Jamis Renegade?

  • @Veloworthy
    @Veloworthy 10 місяців тому +1

    Danni is the real deal! Got to see her race at Unbound and she was with the best gravel pros in the world.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +2

      She's rapid! Loved having Danni on the channel, should we get her back for more?

    • @Veloworthy
      @Veloworthy 10 місяців тому

      @@gcn Absolutely! If not you can always bring me on for content too ;)

  • @kubagornowicz
    @kubagornowicz 10 місяців тому +6

    Emma would definitely benefit from lighter gearing/higher cadence (and spds)

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Perhaps so but the first thing to do it get on the bike and enjoy the ride 🙌 Let all the tech come next!

    • @kubagornowicz
      @kubagornowicz 10 місяців тому

      @@gcn Of course, no need to force anyone to anything! :)

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 10 місяців тому +2

    Come on GCN .... another Emma video please.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      What should we get her to do next?

  • @jevgeniardassov
    @jevgeniardassov 10 місяців тому +2

    Talking about differences in bike weight is as relevant as talking about bolt weight differences in a race car. The difference that matters is in the system weight, and considering I am 86 kg and the bike with a frame bag, bottles and pedals is 8,9 kg, so 2 kg is actually 1%… And 300 grams is basically taking number two before the start. 😅

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie 10 місяців тому +2

    I've been riding the same gravel, dirt trails a good 20+ years and this last year is the first year I've had people speeding past me throwing up rocks. I also ride road and I say keep your speed to the road and leave the dirty, dusty trails for 8-10mph plus don't startle the horses. It's really not cool

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому

      Well, I always ride with others in mind. If no one is around, I like to go fast. Before passing equestrians, I ask if it's OK if I pass. They always appreciate it and besides I don't want to get trampled by a startled 1500+ lb animal.

  • @stevenlevitz8895
    @stevenlevitz8895 10 місяців тому +1

    8:12 “I’ll reel them in just like fish 🐠!”

  • @aajfranklin
    @aajfranklin 10 місяців тому

    Whereabouts was the 10km route?

  • @martindirkzimmer
    @martindirkzimmer 10 місяців тому

    The music in your videos is always O.N.ah...... P.O.I.N.T.aaaahh...........!!!

  • @user-hu3kn4kk5g
    @user-hu3kn4kk5g 10 місяців тому +1

    Global Gravel Network (GGN)?

  • @SKULLKR3W
    @SKULLKR3W 10 місяців тому

    so cool

  • @thecappy
    @thecappy 10 місяців тому

    We need a video on does aero matter for gravel.

  • @chance123575
    @chance123575 10 місяців тому

    more of Danni please!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Unbound 2024?

    • @chance123575
      @chance123575 10 місяців тому

      @@gcn sure but would love to see her as a guest presenter!

  • @tihohohoho
    @tihohohoho 10 місяців тому +4

    Just do a Build me up/ Road to Unbound with Emma

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer 10 місяців тому +1

      And Si, crying because he can't find his Gravel bike.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      We made a film about the GBDURO on GCN+, you should check it out! 👉 gcn.eu/GBDURO

  • @izi941
    @izi941 10 місяців тому

    7:00 you’re wrong…it’s perfect representation of an amateurs bike. They usually have better gear than professionals 😅

  • @steveballs901
    @steveballs901 10 місяців тому

    So Danni rides for Das Handsling but wasnt rising a Handsling bike? Should get her back for more though.

  • @qiaopiding8815
    @qiaopiding8815 10 місяців тому

    I want to know if CX bike can compete with gravel bike on this road.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      We've done videos comparing the two in the past 👉 ua-cam.com/video/g8a466-F4tw/v-deo.html

  • @juannauj4428
    @juannauj4428 10 місяців тому

    Waiting for the Cyclo-Cross edition

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      What pro should we call up? 👀

  • @stevenlevitz8895
    @stevenlevitz8895 10 місяців тому

    “I’m Manon the Gravel Noob!” 🤗

  • @DavidVidaurri
    @DavidVidaurri 10 місяців тому

    Girl powa❤

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland 10 місяців тому +1

    Specific - the word to make things more expensive.

  • @wanderingboy8271
    @wanderingboy8271 10 місяців тому +3

    Do it with the beginner on the pro bike and the pro on the cheaper

  • @menelson11
    @menelson11 10 місяців тому

    I have an idea for another video. I want to see a beginner, amateur, pro gravel addition with a twist. Find a trail to race that is hard enough to make a mountain bike the best choice. The twist is bike selection. beginner gets to race a mountain bike, the amateur gets to ride a gravel bike and the pro has to race a road bike. Who would be fastest?

  • @jonwyatt262
    @jonwyatt262 10 місяців тому

    What I like about riding gravel, I hardly ever see anyone who might laugh at my 50 year old bike.

  • @Paganiproductions84
    @Paganiproductions84 10 місяців тому

    aero matters everywhere also offroad

  • @wchu702
    @wchu702 10 місяців тому

    Shrosbree!!!

  • @MarioDallaRiva
    @MarioDallaRiva 10 місяців тому

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @thesea4120
    @thesea4120 10 місяців тому +1

    Ex Pros aren't really amateur though are they? They've still got really good physical and technical abilities just not at their peak right?

  • @throughthewindow4894
    @throughthewindow4894 10 місяців тому

    Gravel is only new to people who never thought of doing this sort of riding before.

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 10 місяців тому

      I’ve straight up rode my aero ride bike with 28 mm treaded tyres and nabbed some gravel road KOMs

  • @renecornelius113
    @renecornelius113 10 місяців тому +1

    They had a bit of advantage over Emma with their clipless pedals . 😅 Great effort though!

    • @MichalBrat
      @MichalBrat 10 місяців тому +2

      I see no advantage in that, no reason not to ride flats on any gravel bike.

    • @renecornelius113
      @renecornelius113 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MichalBrat I fully agree, I just thought they might have extra gains on Emma for having a fuller active stroke. She basically just had a 2-6 stroke.

    • @MichalBrat
      @MichalBrat 10 місяців тому

      @@renecornelius113 It has not been proven in any cicumstance except for full sprinting maybe, for rider that are used to clipless pedals all their lives. None of that applies to Emma. Clipless are cycling's biggest dud.

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 10 місяців тому

      @@MichalBrat It's personal preference at the end of the day. The biggest performance gains are in shoes not pedals, and the reason clipless generally performs better is the greater availability of high quality, stiff soled shoes.
      But calling it a "dud" is just code for you being stuck in your ways.

    • @MichalBrat
      @MichalBrat 10 місяців тому

      @@hendrixinfinity3992 That's the thing - personal preference is legit - everybody does as they want. But we are talking "performance disadvantage", so not about preferences, but numbers and data. And the data shows what I stated above 🤷

  • @bobbybobman3073
    @bobbybobman3073 10 місяців тому

    Sorry but first ride looks more like a skills test than a fittness test, so its not shocking mannon on former track pro (I think) would be fine for the fitness of a skill and grip limited 36 second course. I'd love to see a pro mountain biker try that course on the same bikes as you guys. I wouldn't be too shocked if they had some specialty skills to grab a second or two on you guys.

  • @Sergspain
    @Sergspain 10 місяців тому

    Falling on my face in the dirt at higher speeds than with my mtb 😁

  • @ebikescrapper3925
    @ebikescrapper3925 10 місяців тому +3

    Why is Harriet not the beginner?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому +2

      We have loads of people lining up in the office to try a new challenge!

  • @rokibuca
    @rokibuca 10 місяців тому

    I like my gravel bike because I can mix surfaces on one ride

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      Absolutely! They're so versatile!

  • @TheTrev53
    @TheTrev53 10 місяців тому

    Just out of interest, when did Dani go pro?
    Does she not work for a shoe company and ride for a UCI amateur team, DAS Handsling?

  • @TomPhotoix
    @TomPhotoix 10 місяців тому

    I ride that loop several times a week on my gravel bike, and you all smashed me….granted, I do ride there from home which is about 4 miles, but still…

    • @daveclee2325
      @daveclee2325 10 місяців тому

      Where is it? It looks lush!

    • @TomPhotoix
      @TomPhotoix 10 місяців тому

      @@daveclee2325 Forest of Dean. It’s the family cycle trail, well most of what they used was anyhow.

    • @daveclee2325
      @daveclee2325 10 місяців тому

      I thought it might be, it’s not so far from me

  • @nightcrawler2321
    @nightcrawler2321 10 місяців тому

    How tall is MANON?

  • @Jari1973
    @Jari1973 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow 🥰
    Am I the last person in the world who rides his gravel.. 25mm, 110 psi 😂??

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 10 місяців тому

      110 is way too high for 25mm on smooth tarmac. Even the pros run 28s at 80. look up Silca tyre pressure calculator to get the best tyre pressure for your specific setup and conditions.

    • @Fawaz571
      @Fawaz571 10 місяців тому

      ​@@hendrixinfinity3992not really depends I live in a flat country with very good roads so it works for me i just glide and glire. But yeah 80 is good if you have potholes or gravel chunks in the middle of the road

    • @Jari1973
      @Jari1973 10 місяців тому

      @@hendrixinfinity3992 Most of the time I run 100 psi.. But 10 km TT pressure is 120 psi 25mm + latex..
      Dear people, don't look at the pressure counters on the internet.. the tire manufacturer informs you or you can get the correct pressures by asking them 👍

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Jari1973 The tyre manufacturer only knows about the tyre. They don't know anything about the conditions you are riding in. Plus if you go by the sidewall then you are essentially running the tyre at its maximum safe pressure, not its best performing one.
      You clearly don't know anything either since Pogacar is using tyres that measure over 30mm for his time trial in which he beat the entire pro peloton except one. I guarantee his team know more than you

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Fawaz571 No, the science says you're wrong. You'd have to have roads as smooth as a velodrome for 100psi to be worth it. 80 is the absolute maximum I would set measured 25mm tyres at. I used to run 25s that measured 23 and had them at 85 with no loss of performance over a higher pressure (but a lot more hand pain).
      Now I use 30mm tyres which measure 27 on my rims. I run them at 65psi which is the minimum I can run before the threat of clapping the rim starts to come in. Running tyres at their minimum rather than maximum increasing comfort and speed. It's a no brainer.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 10 місяців тому +2

    Part of me really has to laugh when people say gravel riding is about a decade old. I grew up in a time and era when all the roads were gravel, rolling hills with lots of sand and gravel trails. We had really shit bikes by today's standard and we constantly broke them. It's all we knew. Gravel is going the same path as mountain biking where an industry and formalized sport was born out of a desire to build better bikes with greater challenges, and of course to capitalize on financial opportunity.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      You make a good point! We have an awesome film about the GBDURO on GCN+ that you may enjoy 👉 gcn.eu/GBDURO

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому

      Well said.

  • @xtrailz
    @xtrailz 10 місяців тому

    Can we have more gravel videos please? Don't make us grovel for gravel.

  • @rule3036
    @rule3036 10 місяців тому +1

    Now try that against a pro XC rider on a xc mtb.😶

  • @leopard936
    @leopard936 10 місяців тому

    Who was that littering ?

  • @sand9577
    @sand9577 10 місяців тому

    Hey get back to training Manon.

  • @NicoleGonzalez-ot5js
    @NicoleGonzalez-ot5js 9 місяців тому

    This is not going to show true strength gravel races are about endurance there is no way she can ride as long and hard as a pro unless she trained like one

  • @blazefpv3038
    @blazefpv3038 10 місяців тому

    so, the Canyon didnt pay You , so You deliberately take close shots with distorted logos ....

  • @henryhuber1050
    @henryhuber1050 10 місяців тому

    "Professional Gravel Rider" 🥴 Dont like how roadies have sucked the fun out of what was once a casual and amateur sub genre of the sport

  • @StefanoMantegazza
    @StefanoMantegazza 10 місяців тому

    Gravel is dead!!!

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому

      Yeah, sure it is. That's why UCI pros are quitting their teams and racing in the States.

  • @rule3036
    @rule3036 10 місяців тому

    Gravel gravel😴😴😴😴

  • @romemancer7905
    @romemancer7905 10 місяців тому

    So now we have Pro gravel cycling ??? Give me a break...maybe you should all empty the rocks out of your heads ! gravel shmavel...Get a real bike aka XC mountain...bike...lol.

    • @wchu702
      @wchu702 10 місяців тому

      The only rocks are the ones which you've been living under. 40K participants at Unbound. $250K USD prize purse for the pros, which is about 4x more than the biggest XC purse.

  • @johndinsdale1707
    @johndinsdale1707 10 місяців тому

    Gravel racing is about ultra endurance and none of these tests are relevant. One day the presenter will take training serious?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  10 місяців тому

      We made a film about epic gravel racing at the GBDURO on GCN+ that you might like! 👉 gcn.eu/GBDURO

  • @occyman
    @occyman 10 місяців тому

    GCN must be completely out of ideas to turn out this garbage

  • @Velo757
    @Velo757 10 місяців тому

    Emma is super cute!!!!! She seems like a really nice cool and super fun person to hang out and chill with!!!
    Cool video!
    PS: tell Emma I said hello....🫶🏻!!!

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 10 місяців тому +1

    NNNNNnnnnope. come on