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Very good summary of the entire patch. Thank you for that. The guaranteed sup dmg + you get is also nice...since I was not lucky enough even after 250 hours playtime.
Bro, the new fights are intended to be the last fights that will likely ever be added, specifically meant for people who have fully grinded out their end game builds, they had better be really hard.
I know this very well. I am pertaining to the rewards. Its fine that they are overtuned and I completed them anyway. Even the hardest fights in FF14 provide somekind of cosmetic item.
yeap sandalphon is great and all but the timings really is not for everyone. Glad the guide helps! just continue mastering sandy and the timings will be muscle memory
The timing isn't the focus, use his 12 hit teleport move, transform into angel state, do crazy damage, transform back, do a couple specials followed by teleport attack and repeat. He's a beast.
I think Zero shouldn't have any rewards besides bragging rights. It's the final and hardest quest in the game. It's not meant to be farmed, just beaten.
@@LovelyEvilAngel Judging from the recycled content we got post game and the subsequent updates also containing recycled content (besides the new characters and lucilius boss), I doubt cygames are planning on supporting this game in the long run.
You are correcting this, sir. This should just be bragging right that’s it that way if you can’t beat it you’re not missing out and if you can beat it, you can say you did.
As I mentioned as well, I kinda understand this perspective. I am soulsguy and I love challenge myself however, its just that I was expecting something more, just like a cosmetic item, just like ultimate weapons in FF14 when you beat the hardest fights in the game. Its just a personal expectation that's all.
Thanks and glad you find it helpful. For the Supp+ and War+, its kinda rare that's why. And if you are referring on quest information screen, cygames has a tendency of not including some of the drops.
I agree with this and I mentioned, it will feel overtuned for some. I love the challenge the personally and I am used to it. Its just that I am speaking for the general mass. My only gripe is the rewards, other than bragging rights.
@@czairkolmoslink5952 Oh I was referring to how other games handles the hardest fights in the game that I played, especially in MMOs. Its like they reward you with weapon skins that only exclusive for those who beaten the hardest quests in the game.
Hello, can you please make a guide on how to get suppl. dmg sigils and like which quests excactly drop them? also can you make a video about how to craft the craftable other weapons for seofon tweyen and sandalphon? No yt video helps ..
Hello made a lot of videos regarding how to get Supp or Supp V+. I will link them for your reference. You can get the Supp through the following: Curios Behemoth Quest - Supplementary Damage V+ ( but its super rare but this is the best place ) Curio Typing guides: ua-cam.com/video/FYpLu9WhtIY/v-deo.html Regarding the weapons for Seofon and Tweyen, what do you exactly mean forge other weapons? Sandy, Seofon and Tweyen baby have 2 weapons each only.
@@JRPGSamurai thanks for replying. So sandy twey snd seo dont have many weapons to craft like all other characters right. and my question is, how and where to farm the needed materials to craft those weapons because i just search and search and cant find it. idk if i need to progress more
Use sandalphon to rap.. lucilose 250 Sandalphon is Lancelot Better damage 4.0 Five wing form + dodge attack = free powerfull homing projectile damage count as rang and combo attack No glass cannon, alpha gamma 52m dps in 60s Glass cannon 61m Glass cannon alpha gamma 78m dps Skill + normal attack = useless dps
Can anyone tell me how worth it Spartan Echo is? Considering it seems to conflict with the terminus weapon >45k hp bonus, I am very skeptical. Can both work? Is it one or the other?
Terminus weapon/boundary sigils(for new chars)+spartan echo won't work together. Spartan echo will only work if you are around 50001k-80k HP. Terminus weapons will only work if you are at 45k or less HP. Boundary sigils for the 3 latest characters will cap your HP at 45k no matter how much bonus hp you have. So you will never trigger the spartan echo with this.
Might be just an alternative for those wanting to be a tank, but still deal decent damage as well(possibly to use with ascension weapons since they have both Atk and Hp as main stats)
I really have to thank you man. It was so foolish of me not to read that caanan blooms could be farmed from the first luci boss fight. I actually thought I have to farm the new one for the blooms. I have been struggling to find randoms that could help me defeat the new one, I've had a couple of close ones but have never fully defeated it yet.
Maybe you will be able to afk farm these but to do that you will need optimized AI with Supp+ and war+ which means you don't need to afk farm these. A bummer...
Are you referring to Lock Horns quest? If yes, I made an AI guide with their builds. They use normal Supps and War Elems normal can drop indeed on Behe pretty in a decent rate.
I mean, I am expecting that they are the hardest fights. As mentioned proper end game fights. Kinda fun to beat but I really wanted somekind of a reward.
I’ll try it online and then never again until I can build up a offline party that’s able to compete. Cause when it comes synthesizing everything I need. It’s so random and my luck is just the worst sometimes.
Nope. Uber Luci & Bahamuth is just fine as is. Reward is for flex & bragging rights. Let us normies enjoy the game it should. A bit suprised going back to regular Luci to farm my Canaan flower, randoms are still having hard time beating him still doesnt know the mechanic I have to switch to Japan region for better players.
I mentioned it may feel overtuned I am a normie as well but I guess I am used to the MMO culture who rewards you with at least great cosmetics for beating the hardest fights.
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Very good summary of the entire patch. Thank you for that. The guaranteed sup dmg + you get is also nice...since I was not lucky enough even after 250 hours playtime.
Glad you love it! Yeah, Roland is a big help! Enjoy your new Sigils!
Bro, the new fights are intended to be the last fights that will likely ever be added, specifically meant for people who have fully grinded out their end game builds, they had better be really hard.
I know this very well. I am pertaining to the rewards. Its fine that they are overtuned and I completed them anyway. Even the hardest fights in FF14 provide somekind of cosmetic item.
Appreciate the update and tips! New character is great but i really dont gel with the timing attacks his auto combo uses annoyingly >.
yeap sandalphon is great and all but the timings really is not for everyone. Glad the guide helps! just continue mastering sandy and the timings will be muscle memory
The timing isn't the focus, use his 12 hit teleport move, transform into angel state, do crazy damage, transform back, do a couple specials followed by teleport attack and repeat. He's a beast.
@@hiddenmission83 cool will give that a try cheers
I agree!!! You should have gotten a cosmetic item for zero. Like ethereal wings behind you. I get its end game but.... gimme atrophy
I kinda love how they did it in FF14, ultimate weapons in FF14 are rewards from beating the hardest fights in the game. It is so cool
@@JRPGSamurai I like that. Even if it's just cosmetic. Or even the terminous and ascention glow change color after defeating him
I think Zero shouldn't have any rewards besides bragging rights. It's the final and hardest quest in the game. It's not meant to be farmed, just beaten.
"Final"? What if we get an expansion with a new difficulty level and many quests?
@@LovelyEvilAngel ‘What if’ is not the same as what’s currently intended.
@@LovelyEvilAngel Judging from the recycled content we got post game and the subsequent updates also containing recycled content (besides the new characters and lucilius boss), I doubt cygames are planning on supporting this game in the long run.
You are correcting this, sir. This should just be bragging right that’s it that way if you can’t beat it you’re not missing out and if you can beat it, you can say you did.
As I mentioned as well, I kinda understand this perspective. I am soulsguy and I love challenge myself however, its just that I was expecting something more, just like a cosmetic item, just like ultimate weapons in FF14 when you beat the hardest fights in the game. Its just a personal expectation that's all.
Love your channel.
Nice to hear Bayonne! Thanks!
Great Summary of the new update, question tho, I didn't found the Supp+ & War+ sigil on the behemoth drop is it like a hidden drop ?
Thanks and glad you find it helpful. For the Supp+ and War+, its kinda rare that's why. And if you are referring on quest information screen, cygames has a tendency of not including some of the drops.
Why they didn't do anything with stout heart yet. I want a stout heart+
is war elemental+ only from behemoth quest?? or can be aquired from transmarvel anda zathaba's box too???
In my experience i only get it from Behemoths though. no luck from Zathba or transmarvels prolly behe drop only
Just wish Cygames could keep this game alive like shinobi strikers and xenoverse…would legit be a top 5 for years 😭
I am hoping too however, I think they did not expect its big success so it will take time for the next expansion.
I don’t think they are over tuned
With how easy the games been once you get to full build I’m happy to have a challenge
I agree with this and I mentioned, it will feel overtuned for some. I love the challenge the personally and I am used to it. Its just that I am speaking for the general mass. My only gripe is the rewards, other than bragging rights.
@@JRPGSamurai yeah I can agree on that, if the rewords were better I can see less of a problem. I would of liked something nice as a Vane main
@@czairkolmoslink5952 a cosmetic weapon would be nice!
@@JRPGSamurai I never played the mobile game. what's that?
@@czairkolmoslink5952 Oh I was referring to how other games handles the hardest fights in the game that I played, especially in MMOs. Its like they reward you with weapon skins that only exclusive for those who beaten the hardest quests in the game.
Hello, can you please make a guide on how to get suppl. dmg sigils and like which quests excactly drop them? also can you make a video about how to craft the craftable other weapons for seofon tweyen and sandalphon? No yt video helps ..
Hello made a lot of videos regarding how to get Supp or Supp V+. I will link them for your reference. You can get the Supp through the following:
Curios
Behemoth Quest - Supplementary Damage V+ ( but its super rare but this is the best place )
Curio Typing guides: ua-cam.com/video/FYpLu9WhtIY/v-deo.html
Regarding the weapons for Seofon and Tweyen, what do you exactly mean forge other weapons? Sandy, Seofon and Tweyen baby have 2 weapons each only.
@@JRPGSamurai thanks for replying.
So sandy twey snd seo dont have many weapons to craft like all other characters right. and my question is, how and where to farm the needed materials to craft those weapons because i just search and search and cant find it. idk if i need to progress more
Use sandalphon to rap.. lucilose 250
Sandalphon is Lancelot Better damage 4.0
Five wing form + dodge attack = free powerfull homing projectile damage count as rang and combo attack
No glass cannon, alpha gamma 52m dps in 60s
Glass cannon 61m
Glass cannon alpha gamma 78m dps
Skill + normal attack = useless dps
Yeap I noticed this as well when makin his guide. I don't know if its intended or not, referring to the Lancelot gameplay with Sandy.
Can anyone tell me how worth it Spartan Echo is? Considering it seems to conflict with the terminus weapon >45k hp bonus, I am very skeptical. Can both work? Is it one or the other?
Terminus weapon/boundary sigils(for new chars)+spartan echo won't work together.
Spartan echo will only work if you are around 50001k-80k HP.
Terminus weapons will only work if you are at 45k or less HP.
Boundary sigils for the 3 latest characters will cap your HP at 45k no matter how much bonus hp you have. So you will never trigger the spartan echo with this.
Good tip!
This is the reason why, I only use Berserker Echo and Planning to use Super Dodge on my AIs.
Might be just an alternative for those wanting to be a tank, but still deal decent damage as well(possibly to use with ascension weapons since they have both Atk and Hp as main stats)
@@nameynamd9212 Prob is roles here in Relink is almost non-existent but yeah I get you.
It will be challenging(or impossible) to defeat Neo Versa with AI because the AI are always focused on Id.
I noticed this big time as well. I ran out of time mostly.
I still don’t even have a Supp+ Sigil 🤦♂️
Aw sad to hear, wishing you good luck!
I really have to thank you man. It was so foolish of me not to read that caanan blooms could be farmed from the first luci boss fight.
I actually thought I have to farm the new one for the blooms. I have been struggling to find randoms that could help me defeat the new one, I've had a couple of close ones but have never fully defeated it yet.
Glad my guide helps. Now go enjoy Sandy!
I hate that the material for unlocking Sandalphon is dropped by the hardest (and most cheap) Boss in the entire game.
normal lucilius is fine, he drops 1 flower per run, the New lucilius is an optional challenge you don't need to kill him.
They drop on normal Luci like Juan said, but also talk to rolan at the church to get a free feather. You'll only need to beat normal Luci twice.
@@PlanterSanSama Thank you.
@@juanlife6255 Thank you.
Indeed, I mentioned it as well that you can just play the normal one. Enjoy Sandy!
Maybe you will be able to afk farm these but to do that you will need optimized AI with Supp+ and war+ which means you don't need to afk farm these.
A bummer...
Are you referring to Lock Horns quest? If yes, I made an AI guide with their builds. They use normal Supps and War Elems normal can drop indeed on Behe pretty in a decent rate.
You’re right, the last two boss missions are overtuned.
I mean, I am expecting that they are the hardest fights. As mentioned proper end game fights. Kinda fun to beat but I really wanted somekind of a reward.
I’ll try it online and then never again until I can build up a offline party that’s able to compete. Cause when it comes synthesizing everything I need. It’s so random and my luck is just the worst sometimes.
I’m surprised people are still playing
Yeah, a decent amount yes.
Nope. Uber Luci & Bahamuth is just fine as is. Reward is for flex & bragging rights. Let us normies enjoy the game it should.
A bit suprised going back to regular Luci to farm my Canaan flower, randoms are still having hard time beating him still doesnt know the mechanic I have to switch to Japan region for better players.
I mentioned it may feel overtuned I am a normie as well but I guess I am used to the MMO culture who rewards you with at least great cosmetics for beating the hardest fights.