Krishna Menon is a very good example of not placing all the confidence in one person for all of the time . Times change, people may not be suitable for all times. 1962 was painful. My father, a civilian, used to feel it so deeply, the way our soldiers fought with minimal equipment. The pain that many of that generation felt for a very long time.
Brillinat session Aadi! Hope someone from Indian Army's senior leadership are listening to this conversation! Eagerly waiting SKV's photographic book on India's military history!
What a wonderful perspective. Being a retired Army officer, I wish your books are made part of our Part B exams so that we get the right perspective. Critical thinking is lacking amongst us and important for our future Army officers. Thank you
No one else could have done justice to such a subject. Aadi, Kudos for inviting Shiv Kunal Verma for the session. He enjoys an enviable reputation and this show tells us why! Thoroughly enjoyed!
Aadi sir was your father a veteran of the '62 war? I saute him and the army. Jai hind.🇮🇳🙏🦾 Viewers would love to know more firsthand from your personalarchive in future shows.❤ Haqeekat was a movie this generation must watch.
Excellent. I am happy to know that someone is doing impartial analysis on poorly popular but very very important subject "Military History" and presenting it in form of a book to school children🎉
Excellent explanation of colonization, beautiful ❤️❤️ I love you talked with heart without partiality, intelligence failure, everything source they have
Aadi ji your podcast on this 1962 book of Shiv Kunslji was very good and Shiv kunalji explained the things on a correct line and length.I had wstched Shiv kunslji on this 1962 episode on Vaad also. Since last three days I gave been watchingbthr Vaad and your chsnneks podcasts onnthese serious topics ,some of them are very old more than a year also.Very interesting and necessity also for our future generation,gennext.You rightly said tgat we grew up from school to college and then got employed for the sake of just our survival but now we are going to face difficult times ahead.Our TV channrls are agenda driven and are just bringing news of such topics with lot of commercial breaks.
Heard first time Shiv Kunal Verma sir on Vaad podcast on this subject, but this session also thrown further light to how & what happened. Thanks to Aadi & sir for this knowledgeable session
This loss changed the trajectories of the both the countries. China was recognised as the major power in Asia and global stature of India was cut to size. US which used to cozy up to India till that time started to look up to China.
Amazing information, incredible insights! Looking forward to the “Illustrated Military History of India/ Bharat 🇮🇳 ”. Great idea to have contact programmes with school children.👌🏽👍🏽
Sir, Extremely informative discussion. According to public perception, we lost the war because of Chinese supremacy, therefore, it is an eye-opener revelation that we could defeat them but due to some wrong decision of some army officers coupled with the wrong perception of the IB, the opposite happened.
It is my thinking that when Shiv kunalji that when one boy asked about pakistani perspective ,he should have asked the boy to go through many Indian authors like Dullat etc to go thru their writings.
I never knew Adi was that knowledgeable You have changed my Outlook You should talk to Ankit Shah Economics gujrati se sekho aur defence Punjabi se. Aur MP walo se sekho ke sekhna kisse hai
I never understood the opposition to Nehru's Forward Policy to this day! Please explain the alternatives that PM Nehru had at this time against the Chinese claims to all who blame him for instigating war; forget Krishna Menon and General Kaul who were typical stooges
Krishns menon was the intellectual of a highest standard and he spoke on kashmir matters in UN in 1947for more than 24 hours but in 1962 his intellectual class got evaporated innthinnair.
Indian border should be fixed at Karakoram range, which separates watershed area of Indus, from that of Tarim river watershed of China. It is a mental decease to claim Aksaichin area north of Karakoram range.
Guest speaker seems to have lots of respect for Mr nehru. But it was blunder. He's always spoken in favour of the adversary and opposed our armed forces. The legacy continued
China has occupied 2000 sqkm Indian territory since April 2020. PM said on 19 June 2020, no one is on our land - why did he say? Because Indian mil does not have capability to throw PLA out forcefully. Similarly, if Indian military had war capability, Pak proxy war would end!
It is Plain gossip like most of writings on 1962. But it is clear that Menon was unworthy of becoming Defence Minister for such a long time. Nehru's blind faith on him is also mysterious . Indian preparedness was dismal in 1962.
Let us not become blind devotee of any Prime Minister. We did so for Nehru and ignored his blunders. Let us not assume that we know everything about borders even now . We must ask Govt of the time point blank if any disturbing news comes from anywhere.
Nehru was certainly a bane for India . Partition was his handiwork and this single act overshadows his great work in Science and industry. But blaming whole Congress party is totally wrong. Shastrijee was great in all respects. Indira was tough for China and Pakistan. Nehru was almost silent on annexation of Tibet by China. He was even ignoring annexation of 38000 Sq km in Acai Chin till many Congressmen turned against him on this issue. He should have taken back Axai Chin but his funny non alignment came in his way and the Defence Minister with alleged doubtful integrity misled him.
Akshai chin was a silk route from thousands of years Soviet Union services captured Chinese activities in akshai region 1957 they share this with indian external ministry and here is failures of Indian bureaucrats special krishan menon the lap dogs of Nehru. Chinese already occupied akshai chin China was under Mao control Mao army ccp wings was we'll know fighting forces compare to indian army and our army failures was no plan withdraw no proper equipment. Fact : after 1962 failure Chinese army taught us that gandhi Bhakti and peace candel won't work indian army showed them 1967 as well as 1965 war.
Excellent. I am happy to know that someone is doing impartial analysis on poorly popular but very very important subject "Military History" and presenting it in form of a book to school children🎉
Krishna Menon is a very good example of not placing all the confidence in one person for all of the time . Times change, people may not be suitable for all times. 1962 was painful. My father, a civilian, used to feel it so deeply, the way our soldiers fought with minimal equipment. The pain that many of that generation felt for a very long time.
He once meet eye to eye with Western block
Modi and Jaisankar will be another Nehru Menon jodi.
Our armies bleed for us. we as citizens must be worthy of dying for.very good narration by Shiv Kunal Sir.raw truth.
Brillinat session Aadi! Hope someone from Indian Army's senior leadership are listening to this conversation! Eagerly waiting SKV's photographic book on India's military history!
What a wonderful perspective. Being a retired Army officer, I wish your books are made part of our Part B exams so that we get the right perspective. Critical thinking is lacking amongst us and important for our future Army officers. Thank you
No one else could have done justice to such a subject. Aadi, Kudos for inviting Shiv Kunal Verma for the session. He enjoys an enviable reputation and this show tells us why! Thoroughly enjoyed!
Just one word "GOOSEBUMPS" 🇮🇳
Amazing Discussion, I hope someone in government is listening to it.
Everything can be overlooked but incompetence and inability cannot be overlooked.
Thankyou Aadi. I literally had goosebumps 😢
It was great and insightful. Thanks aadi and Mr Verma.
We, as Indian need to work hard, harder. There's no other option to fight and survive
Aadi sir was your father a veteran of the '62 war? I saute him and the army. Jai hind.🇮🇳🙏🦾
Viewers would love to know more firsthand from your personalarchive in future shows.❤
Haqeekat was a movie this generation must watch.
Excellent. I am happy to know that someone is doing impartial analysis on poorly popular but very very important subject "Military History" and presenting it in form of a book to school children🎉
Excellent explanation of colonization, beautiful ❤️❤️ I love you talked with heart without partiality, intelligence failure, everything source they have
When China invaded Tibet, Nehruji's government supplied rice and other items as their supply lines were stretched.
Aadi ji your podcast on this 1962 book of Shiv Kunslji was very good and Shiv kunalji explained the things on a correct line and length.I had wstched Shiv kunslji on this 1962 episode on Vaad also.
Since last three days I gave been watchingbthr Vaad and your chsnneks podcasts onnthese serious topics ,some of them are very old more than a year also.Very interesting and necessity also for our future generation,gennext.You rightly said tgat we grew up from school to college and then got employed for the sake of just our survival but now we are going to face difficult times ahead.Our TV channrls are agenda driven and are just bringing news of such topics with lot of commercial breaks.
Very informative and realistic. I really liked it. We have to solve internal issues first, think logically and realistically.
Depressing. Nehru & the Congress party have been such a bane to India.
Really excellent choice. Get him more often
Love this aadi. You're such a breath of fresh air 🙏🙏
Sir some time u make a program on orissa after throw investigation. We are suffering as a middle class here.
Heard first time Shiv Kunal Verma sir on Vaad podcast on this subject, but this session also thrown further light to how & what happened.
Thanks to Aadi & sir for this knowledgeable session
Great podcast!!!
Thank you Team Def Talks 🙏🏻
Bahut acha laga dhanyabad bahut he bariya bislesan great sir
This loss changed the trajectories of the both the countries. China was recognised as the major power in Asia and global stature of India was cut to size. US which used to cozy up to India till that time started to look up to China.
Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳❤️❤️❤️
EXCELLENT 😊THANKS. LEARNT A LOT. 😊
Amazing information, incredible insights! Looking forward to the “Illustrated Military History of India/ Bharat 🇮🇳 ”. Great idea to have contact programmes with school children.👌🏽👍🏽
1:31:30 is this reference to sam?
Jai hind , Jai bharat 🙏
Very interesting... Thanks
Sir,
Extremely informative discussion. According to public perception, we lost the war because of Chinese supremacy, therefore, it is an eye-opener revelation that we could defeat them but due to some wrong decision of some army officers coupled with the wrong perception of the IB, the opposite happened.
Your quality of sound recording appears to be very poor. Please improve.
Thanks
5 jat me mere papa bhi the
Super 💯 realistic realisation
One silver lining from 62 debacle was that it woke up India and govt importantly and made sure such mistakes never happen.
Thanks sir.
Excellent podcast 🙏🙏
It is my thinking that when Shiv kunalji that when one boy asked about pakistani perspective ,he should have asked the boy to go through many Indian authors like Dullat etc to go thru their writings.
I never knew Adi was that knowledgeable
You have changed my Outlook
You should talk to Ankit Shah
Economics gujrati se sekho aur defence Punjabi se.
Aur MP walo se sekho ke sekhna kisse hai
True Indian,
Jai Hind Jai Bharath 🙏
Sir...plz add the link of 📚 books,which is written by sir...and keep it up.👍
Jai Bharat 🎉
Why Army was sent for Goa liberation when invation by China was evident..
Krishna Menon became friends with Nehru in London. He was an old hand in London, knew the place very well. He was Nehru's pimp and procurer.
Jai Shree Ram🚩🚩🚩🚩
इसलिए राहुल के बजाय मोदी की जरूरत है,,
I never understood the opposition to Nehru's Forward Policy to this day! Please explain the alternatives that PM Nehru had at this time against the Chinese claims to all who blame him for instigating war; forget Krishna Menon and General Kaul who were typical stooges
Namaskar 🙏💐
Krishns menon was the intellectual of a highest standard and he spoke on kashmir matters in UN in 1947for more than 24 hours but in 1962 his intellectual class got evaporated innthinnair.
Chinese side says that tibet was under qing Dynasty ....is it true?
What was the "move forward policy"of Nehru?
Indian border should be fixed at Karakoram range, which separates watershed area of Indus, from that of Tarim river watershed of China. It is a mental decease to claim Aksaichin area north of Karakoram range.
Bharat Mata ki Jai🚩🚩🚩🚩
#ask hi sir do you think the same problem arises with the theatre commands which centre is persuing
Sad. This shows how unqualified Nehru was to lead India.
Aadi Sir Lalkia ka kya metter hai samjh ni aaya
@@Kumar9439 Sir Laalqila was an exercise done by Gen Thorat in which he accurately predicted where, how and when Chinese will attack India.
very balanced discussion...... did not turn into Nehru bashing only. However, surprising is that Dalai Lama did not come into discussion.
So heartbreaking
Guest speaker seems to have lots of respect for Mr nehru. But it was blunder. He's always spoken in favour of the adversary and opposed our armed forces. The legacy continued
Well said.
China has occupied 2000 sqkm Indian territory since April 2020.
PM said on 19 June 2020, no one is on our land - why did he say?
Because Indian mil does not have capability to throw PLA out forcefully.
Similarly, if Indian military had war capability, Pak proxy war would end!
Most of the content of your conversation tallies with Lt.Gen BM Kaul's Book ' Untold Story'.
Unbelievable.
It is Plain gossip like most of writings on 1962. But it is clear that Menon was unworthy of becoming Defence Minister for such a long time. Nehru's blind faith on him is also mysterious . Indian preparedness was dismal in 1962.
Let us not become blind devotee of any Prime Minister. We did so for Nehru and ignored his blunders.
Let us not assume that we know everything about borders even now . We must ask Govt of the time point blank if any disturbing news comes from anywhere.
why didnt we used our Airforce,? this the only million dollar q?
Addi your prediction unknown gun man become true yesterday it's happened in pakistan
Nehru was certainly a bane for India . Partition was his handiwork and this single act overshadows his great work in Science and industry. But blaming whole Congress party is totally wrong. Shastrijee was great in all respects. Indira was tough for China and Pakistan. Nehru was almost silent on annexation of Tibet by China. He was even ignoring annexation of 38000 Sq km in Acai Chin till many Congressmen turned against him on this issue. He should have taken back Axai Chin but his funny non alignment came in his way and the Defence Minister with alleged doubtful integrity misled him.
The Nehru is a fool for aiding and abetting the Chinese and its PLA by supplying sustensnce to the enemy
Nehru wanted Nobel Peace prize and he sacrificed Bharat. SOB
Seems that Verma is pro Nehru opinion as most of historian during Nehru period mis led true fact to cover Nehru blunders
Pappu is the problem
Akshai chin was a silk route from thousands of years
Soviet Union services captured Chinese activities in akshai region 1957 they share this with indian external ministry and here is failures of Indian bureaucrats special krishan menon the lap dogs of Nehru. Chinese already occupied akshai chin China was under Mao control Mao army ccp wings was we'll know fighting forces compare to indian army and our army failures was no plan withdraw no proper equipment. Fact : after 1962 failure Chinese army taught us that gandhi
Bhakti and peace candel won't work indian army showed them 1967 as well as 1965 war.
Excellent. I am happy to know that someone is doing impartial analysis on poorly popular but very very important subject "Military History" and presenting it in form of a book to school children🎉