Triumph Speed Twin: Everything (else) You Should Know
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2020
- Here is a bow-to-stern rundown of all the little details of the Triumph Speed Twin that you might not learn just from reading spec sheets. If it sounds like I was struggling to speak naturally while doing the voiceover on a handheld tape recorder alone in my parked car, it's because I was.
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The Ram ball visible on the handlebar clamp is not an official Triumph accessory. Other than that, the bike is 100% stock at the time of filming.
Great vid. How much is the bike?
@@jamescourt4703 Thanks! MSRP is $12,700 USD for the non-black colors. I paid about $10K brand new ($11,400 out the door, after tax and dealer bullshit). That was a great deal at the time, but I'm seeing more and more Speed Twins listed in the low $10K range these days.
Tips for lubing your chain. 1) Save your old socks (or the ones that lost their mate in the dryer). 2) get a box of nitrile gloves. 3) General rule to keep in mind: lube your chain after a ride, when the chain is warm. The dirt and grime will have an easier time coming off the chain, and the lube will set up better while it sits overnight instead of being flung off your chain, and all over your bike, if you spray and ride immediately after. 4) Put on a nitrile glove, grab a sock (may it rest in peace), cup your hand around the chain and then spray into the little pocket you create. You'll limit overspray this way and get more lube on your chain. Wet the whole chain first, then just grip the chain with your hand and wipe it down, removing excess lube and the dirt and grime you just loosened up (Ahhhh memories of your teenage years). 5) repeat with a new sock, or turn the dirty sock inside out and repeat if your chain is an embarrassing knackered shameful mess. 6) when your done, hold the rag in your gloved hand, pull off your glove over it, and then throw out the disgusting mass (do not light it on fire and throw at your cat. Unless your cat is a right bastard, and your not inside your garage. And no one is watching. I hate that cat.) 6) go have a beer and bask in the glow of your now clean chain (and possible burning feline), unsullied rear wheel, and clean hands.
If you get in the habit of doing it after every ride (within reason, don't be a nut) you'll be rewarded with a clean chain that not only looks good, but will last longer as well. Bonus material: You'll also get a sense of how your chain tension is, and wont suddenly discover you have some floppy bits dangling between your legs in an embarrassing fashion. Nobody likes that. We'll maybe the cat.
Correction: Contrary to what you stated in the video, almost no Japanese street motorcycles require valve adjustments at 6,000 miles, and literally none require a valve adjustment at the initial 600-mile service. The 600-mile service is usually nothing more than an oil change and re-torqueing of the bolts. The average valve-adjustment interval is 16K (most Hondas), 26.6K (most Yamahas), and 15K for most Kawasakis and Suzukis.
That one error aside, this was a very well done, informative video. Beautiful bike, too. Congrats!
24,000 miles for my MT-07. Picking up the Speed Twin soon when the dealership's DMV processor is back up and running. Been waiting for 3 days for them to fix it. Hopefully soon!
Best all around tour of this bike I've seen so far!
Thanks for watching!
Such a nice well made video!
Thank you so much!
Great video. Like the format. Shared to my Speed Twin Owners Facebook group, Keep the Speedy Vids coming.
Such a great review. Thank you for including metric values. Thank you for the top notch video.
Great and true hints!
That's really good presentation and production quality... You deserve alot more subscribers buddy... Well you got one more 👍
keep putting videos out! Just picked my new 2020 up last week :D
Great video fantastic bike 🇬🇧👍🏻
Well explained, well done. Thanks.
Thanks! It was clear and interesting!
The new generation of Triumph twins are both appealing to the eye and very well made. Lovely bikes.👍😉🏍 Great video.
Zero bullshit video. Dig it man! This will probably be my next bike
Great video - just what I needed to confirm, the 2021 is the model year I need
Good info. Thanks.
Great video 👌🏻
Congratulations on the bike, will strongly recommend on installing an engine guard though. Welcome to the club !!
I do have a beam toggle switch on my Twin (European). Plus that push button that does the same. Can't get used to those bar-end mirrors. My old bike had like an inch long static bar ends and I used to fixate my little finger on that to keep a constant throttle. With this many potholes and road cracks we have in Hungary, whenever I go over one and the bike bumps, the throttle bumps with it as well.
I sat on one the other day along with the T120 and liked the T120 a lot better. The speed Twin's foot peg position is right in the way of your legs at a stop. I have a short inseam of about 28" and the foot pegs would hit right at my shins. Notice a 4:16 when the foot peg is digging in the riders calf. The T120 felt a little lower to the ground and the foot peg was perfect for me. The bars on the T120 is a little higher and felt perfect for my short arms. I'll be getting a T120 before getting the Speed Twin because of my stature. The T120 even felt lighter to me.
The T120 has the advantage in ergonomics, especially for your stature. Performance wise, it'll do 90% of what the Speed Twin will in the hands of most real-world riders. Plus it's better equipped. I still prefer the Speed Twin because it's the 👌perfect amount of sportiness for me, and I'm fortunate enough to find it comfortable.
I own a tiger 900 but have been eyeing the speed twin, awesome review
Tq so much.gud info.marbeles👍👍👍
Very good video thank you
Waiting faster, love it. You should trade mark that before some advertising giant steals it.
Best review so far on this bike... 👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
Real nice video! :)
The headlight flash / passing light is used for several signals in Europe (which depends on the country in you are in) and so its position is very useful. Incidentally, the toggle also functions as the high beam, simply flick it forward with your finger and the beam remains on. Much easier to access than with your thumb.
Probably one of the best reviews of the Speed Twin I've seen on UA-cam. I'm hoping to have one of these in my garage soon!
Thank you! I hope you get one too! It is so much fun to ride.
@@VanBlamm Was holding out to see if they came out with an R or RS model or something with Ohlins, but its not looking like thats gonna happen. So might just go ahead and pull the trigger.
3:39 The Speed Twin is not Euro 5 compliant - Triumph updated the T100, T120, Street Twin, Speedmaster and Bobber in February, the Street Scrambler and 1200 Scramblers in April, and is finally updating the Speed Twin next month to conform to the regulations.
Thank you, I must have meant to say Euro4
Nice video!
The additional key turn to the left (past the fork lock) also lights the headlamp with a soft LED glow, not just the tail lights.
Thanks! I must not have been able to see it in daylight.
I wish I had seen this before I bought mine in February! Locking my handlebars was always a fiddly business, and I had my fuel cap on back to front.. and those seat loops. The valve adjustment interval is simply spectacular isn't it (private gloating when I meet a Moto Guzzi owner). So this should be REQUIRED viewing for my local dealership when handing over the keys on pickup day. Great video sir!
That's high praise, thank you!
The serviceinterval on my Honda CB650R is not as you said. Every 12 000km and valvecheck every 36 000km. Well made film, thank you!
Hey there, Thanks for the video and thoughts mate.. well structured and not boring at all. Something that worked great for me to from TEC bikeparts is the engine protector mounted below the CAT, in black its barely visible but still offers that extra protection. Here in Europe we need to comply with the number plate to be placed passing the wheel base so sad we need to see an ugly long piece of black plastic hanging out, in the other hand, the tail lights are neater and better suited in my views than the american version. I have also added the throttle spacer ,from ( ducatispacers.com), this basic mod made a huge difference on the response and control at low speeds.
Thanks for the input! I believe there is a throttle spacer in my future as well.
Best looking modern Classic in the market..if only Kawi hadn’t introduced that sweet In-line 4 Z900RS !
I actually had been planning on getting a Z900RS, but I got a deal on the Speed Twin that I simply couldn't turn down. I'd still love to own one someday!
VanBlamm : Cool ! Look wise I still prefer Speed Twin, but oh ! that sweetness of Inline 4 exhaust of Z900 RS ! That’s the ‘deal maker’ !
Hi Van - really good one , one small detail you might have missed - is an USB slot, at least in Europeans versions. Pretty handy thing if you plan to charge your mobile nor plug in an external GPS devise ( why would you actually ???) Cheers, Greg
Great bike !!!! Usefull review, I noticed there is beside a centre stand also no passenger grabrail available.
Yeah, and I really wish there were. If nothing else it'd open up some luggage tie-down options.
Very good report, I am surprised about the non existence of a hi beam button…
The best review I have seen so far. Can you please tell me if foot peg position good for long ridings? how long have you ridden before it becomes tiring.
I am 5'9" with a 30" inseam, and I've ridden it 350 miles in a day without getting sore. The pegs are slightly crouched, so a tall person might feel cramped, but not me. My butt starts to hurt long before any other part of me does.
The momentary toggle switch on the headlight is a passing light. In Europe, on faster motorways, you'd us it to let someone know you were coming up on them so they'll move over to let faster traffic pass. In the states, where everyone has generally forgotten how to drive, it's generally used as a remote control to the slower driver's middle finger.
"Forgotten," implies that we knew how in the first place
@@VanBlamm So true. =)
Love your vids. Sick bike dude. Dope Revit jacket too! Which model is your jacket?
Thank you very much! In this video, I was wearing the Rev'It Flatbush jacket, which sadly has been discontinued. My summer mesh jacket is the Rev'It Eclipse, which they still make.
@@VanBlamm Thanks for the info. Stay safe and ride safe.
Hi. I am bhupinder singh from punjab India. I like your video .does it have heated hand grips.
The Speed Twin does not have heated grips, but they are available from Triumph as an accessory. The Bonneville T120 does have heated grips though.
Wondering what you do for gps to navigate, is the under seat use adequate, where do you run the wires, and if you do use your phone, what ancour mount do you recommend for the speed twin?.... oh and hello from your Aussie viewers 🙂
I actually don't use GPS navigation very often. I prefer to try to memorize the route ahead of time. If I do use GPS, I just keep my phone in my pocket and let it read me directions through my Cardo. Everybody seems to love QuadLock mounts these days, but I personally don't trust any motorcycle cell phone mount. Today's phone cameras are just too sensitive to vibration. Thanks for watching, mate!
The Speed Twin would look amazing with the Thruxton silver rims and spoked wheels... just a thought 💭.. oh and make the switch to the Eurolight kit
Yes I fully agree I wonder if there is a spoke wheel option
Not from Triumph direct, but I think the Thruxton wheels would fit if ordered.
I've been debating between this and the Thruxton R. I like everything about the Speed Twin except the suspension. I'll most likely get the Speed Twin. If Triumph ever decided to make a Speed Twin R with the Thruxton suspension, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
I have no doubt that a Speed Twin R is in the works, but I am content with the standard suspension on my Speed Twin. Granted, I am 155lb and my riding is spirited but not aggressive.
@@VanBlamm I surely hope so. I was hoping to pick up either bike this summer or fall but if there is even a possibility that Triumph does that, I'll wait a bit longer. Either way, that bike looks like great fun! Enjoy, my man!
Amen. I own a Speed Twin but would swap it for a Speed Twin R. I may be forced to build my own.
I lust after the Thruxton R unfortunately its extremely uncomfortable and kills my wrist after 30mins. I'm quite happy with the Speed Twin and can cruise on it!
@@ponderguy7724 that's what I felt after my test drive. I absolutely loved it but could not see myself taking long trips with it. The Speed Twin looks like it is more comfortable but I need a stronger suspension. Only time will tell if they release such a Speed Twin.
Would love to know more about track abilities of this bikes, I understand it's not a track focused bike, but you can track any bike if you want, so..
It definitely has the right brakes and tires for the track, and enough power, but I suspect that a skilled rider would notice the limitations of the suspension pretty quickly
When's the RS coming, my wish, fully adjustable spenders, 10-15 more HP and a 180 rear perfect 👍😊
My prediction is we get an R in 2021 and an RS in 2022.
Very nice presentation.. love from india ..
Is it possible to lower the bike for a 30" inseam rider to have both feet flat on the ground? BTW, Very good video! Thumbs up all the way!
Thanks! I think you'd have to look into lowering links; the seat itself is pretty thin so I don't think there's any height to be lost there. My inseam is 30" and I can actually flat foot it if I really cram up against the tank. I also weigh 160lb, so if you're heavier the bike may sag low enough for you to get your heels down.
Any solution for removing the small water staining that has shown up on my brushed aluminum parts (excluding the fender)?
My Buck Rogers throttle body covers have pit RUSTING. I wonder how hard it is to convert these to the bobber's.
What a gorgeous bike. If I hadn't found a sweet XR1200, I would certainly have bought this.
Can't go wrong with that XR either, hope you're enjoying it!
@@VanBlamm Thanks. Impossible not to!
I'm not a beginner rider, but don't need a big or heavy bike. Maybe ride 130 mi at most but rarely. Interested in the Triple 660...how does this Twin compare? I like both but wut's the diff between 1200cc vs 660 cc?
Totally different personalities I'm sure. I'd expect that the 660 triple wants you to rev it out a lot more, as opposed to the 1200 twin which has enough torque that you can ride it lazily if you want to.
Would u have bought the street twin vs the speed twin if it was out back then?
If I'd had the money for a Speed Twin at that time (which I didn't), then I would absolutely have picked it over the Street Twin. It fixes all of the shortcomings of the Street Twin--no top end power, poor brakes, no 6th gear, no tach, ugly side decal--without increasing the weight at all. It just comes down to whether or not you think those improvements are worth an extra $3,000 USD.
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Great video and i would love this or a bobber black for my next bike. But what you said about japanese bikes clearance service is not all that true. Most Japanese bikes(Example: kawasaki parallels and Yamaha CP engines) have a 40,000km ish valve clearance service. I just bought a ninja 650 mostly for the price i got it for but also because of its 42,000km major service intervalls :) Not like my old scramblers measly 12,000km major service intervalls that cost 900£....
Yeah, I should have done my research on that point. My 2013 CB500X, 2005 CBR600RR, and 2012 TU250X all asked for valve checks at the 1,000km and 12,000km marks, so I thought that was normal. I'm just glad Triumph's engines are more reliable than they used to be.
@@VanBlamm sounds like a Honda thing 😅 but 36k km intervalls are awesome! And also not your fault since you had prior experience with japanese bikes with worse intervalls. I almost bought a cb500x once. Was not aware it had that bad intervalls. Almost as bad as my scrambler 😅 But definetly subscribed and I like your content, so im looking forward for more 😊
In Europe, or at least in France, rear led multifunction indicator + front led indicator is a ~250€ (270$) option... what a shame.
An ugly option
Value for money is the new model 2019 on , worth the extra when buying used ? Thinking exhaust and suspension specifically?
What are you comparing it to? 2019 was the first year of the Speed Twin 1200; older than that, your options for street-focused upright Triumph liquid-cooled twins are the Street Twin and Bonnevilles T100 and T120. You'll find the suspension and exhaust note of those models to be virtually indistinguishable from the Speed Twin 1200. If you don't need a big top-end rush and want the best value per dollar in a current-generation Triumph modern classic, look for an early Street Twin (aka Speed Twin 900) which have been popping up for $6K USD in my area lately. If you want to be wowed every time you wind out a gear, up that budget to $8500 and get an early Speed Twin 1200. An early T120 is also great and might fall in between those two in both performance and price.
I meant the extra £1000-2000 difference between used 2019 or 2021 models .
Oh if price is in any way a concern then absolutely go with the older one. The differences are not worth thousands. Hundreds, maybe, but not thousands.
How comfortable is the pillion seat? Is it good?
It's no Goldwing, but very useable. The bike certainly has enough torque for it.
Do you know about any Speed Twin Gear Box issues?
I was going to purchase a T120 but they seem to have a lot of Gear Box problems.
I've only heard two things about that: one was that some Speed Twins were subject to a recall due to failing shift linkage, but my bike's VIN wasn't on the list. The other was a guy who rode his T120 20,000 miles in one year and the transmission broke; Triumph's solution to that one is to change your oil every 5K miles instead of everything 10K like the manual says.
I don't feel worried about it, but then again, I did pay for the extended warranty....
The intergrated brake and turn signal lights are illegal,at least in the UK.
Makes sense. I wonder why they bothered with them at all then, rather than just selling them with the UK-legal lights worldwide.
VanBlamm Yes would make sense just to sell one type,I have a 2019 Street Twin and I’m very happy with it.I’ve fitted a front fender extender to keep road crap out of the radiator and will be fitting a sump guard to protect and hide the cat.
I’m 5’4 tall, is there any possible way to reduce the ride height so I can have a better footing?
Hmm, not that I'm aware of aside from a lowering link. The seat is very thin as is. Maybe try some Daytona GTX boots with the really thick sole?
mods, I love mods!
Great video brother.
I'm ditching my XE1200 for a Speed Twin when all this lock down is over! Think I made the wrong choice when buying, I loved my test ride on the ST and need to do track days again. Will you decat it? I'd put some 2 hand stock thruxton pipes on too and ditch the black ones.
Found your Instagram too!
Keep up the good work 👏👏👏
Hi, thanks for watching! The more I ride it, the more sure I am that I'll eventually decat it. I'll most likely do the all-in-one kit Raisch that includes a PCV with the correct tune already loaded onto it. The stock pipes certainly aren't for everyone, but I'm happy with them for now. If you do move to a Speed Twin and decide to track it, you're probably going to want to upgrade the suspension.
@@VanBlamm hi, yes I'll de cat and swap out the suspension with thruxton R shocks and Tec bike parts front fork up grades. I've got it all planned ha ha. Might do a gold yellow style tank but keep the black stripes. We shall see. Good luck with yours
I suggest replacing the cat with a x-pipe, you get much more bang for the money!
The more you know.
Are they easy to maintain yourself?
I haven't done much beyond oil changes, but I don't think they have any notoriously tricky jobs (think Desmo...)
Is this a ‘20 or ‘19 model; is there a significant difference? I ask because an unsold ‘19 languishing on the floor has been reaching out to me in my dreams . . .
Mine was a leftover 2019 as well. Somebody's gotta give that bike the attention it deserves; might as well be you!
As a speed twin owner with 15k miles, I thought you need to come to a complete stop to change ride modes and had no idea about those loops under the seat!
Owner's manual is your friend - read it.
Most Japanese motorcycles don't require valve adjustment on the 600mile mark.
Other than that, excellent!
I based that on the fact that my former CB500X, CBR600RR, and TU250X all called for valve inspections at the 600 mile mark in their owner's manuals. Clearly I should have researched that point a bit. Thanks for watching!
@@VanBlamm Valve inspection on a 600rr is usually every 24.000km
I believe it's the same(or 12.000km) on a cb500.
agree
Does the front brake squeak?
It did for the first few hundred miles, but the noise faded away over time. My old Street Twin did the same thing.
@@VanBlamm I appreciate the help man. Cheers....
Does 2020 speed twin got any updates?
I'm pretty sure they added a regular high beam on/off switch to the US-spec models. No other updates that I'm aware of.
@@VanBlamm that's a very small update comparing to street triple updates.
xclnt review broo...cvrd mst of things. thnq
How tall are you? I’m 6’ , this bike gonna fit well on me?
I am 5 foot 8 inches, 30 inch insteam. I'm sure it'll fit you great.
This bike is beautiful. But for the asking price they should have put adjustable suspension.
You're not wrong. I'm light and I don't ride very aggressively, but even I am thinking about doing the TEC fork upgrade.
@@VanBlamm Last october I was buying my first bike, and mainly I was choosing between Triumph Speed Twin and Kawasaki Z900RS/Cafe. Even though I liked Speed Twin look slightly better in the end I bought Z900RS Cafe. Kawasaki has adjustable suspension, bigger tank, windscreen, has comparable build quality and finish, and it's noticibly cheaper. I know after some time I would want to try and put the windscreen on the Triumph, which would probably spoil the look. And the suspension upgrade would set the price difference even higher. Now after 2000 km I can say that I really want to raise handlebars a bit, and to put nice sidebags. Other than that I'm in love in my bike, almost every time I ride people show thumbs up and asking about it, all of them dudes though :D
Is it good for pillion?
The bike certainly has enough torque for it! It's not the biggest pillion seat in the world, but it's much more comfortable than any sportbike. Just make sure you crank up the rear shock preload.
Van Blamm Thanks a lot.
USB port?
It doesn't come with one but you can add one easily
@@VanBlamm Isn’t there one under the seat?
Seems expensive for what you get. Love the look though.
You're not wrong. I don't think I ever would have gotten it if I hadn't been offered a such a great deal on it. Thanks for watching!
@@VanBlamm I have a Yamaha XSR900 and I love it. Was thinking of getting a Speed Twin next. Just a little worried about the power though. What do you think?
Worried that it won't be enough? The Speed Twin is very fast, but compared to anything with that 900 triple motor, it's not as eager to wheelie, and has just a little bit less at the top end. The Speed Twin does make more torque than the XSR900, but it also weighs ~40 pounds more.
Ouch, 87 octane?!?
The owner's manual calls for 87 or higher
This question is in general for the entire triumph bonneville range (t100/200, street/speed twin). Do you think these can be the bikes to tour cross country and particularly, in areas when there is almost no roads like the Himalaya’s. I guess I am awestruck with the classical & cafe racer looks but, the trips I want to accomplish are beyond tarmac and into wild. tough to find an all-rounder.
5'8" is ~1.73m, not 1.78m
Oops. Thanks!
I don't know who told you Japanese bikes need the first valve adjustment after 600 miles, but that's not true. 600 miles for almost all motorcycles is the first break in service, no valve adjustment needed.
I wish I had researched that point a bit more first. I was basing it on the three Japanese motorcycles I've owned (two Hondas, one Suzuki), all of which called for valve inspections at the 600-mile and 8,000-mile mark, according to the owner's manuals. I shouldn't have generalized based on a sample size of three though.
@@VanBlamm Lots of great info in this vid, and happy to hear the valve intervals are so long on the Speed Twin, but I'd put them at the top end of average with most bikes requiring between 16-24kmi between valve checks. Some are lower, like air-cooled Ducatis and KTM 690s, but they're the exception these days.
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I thought it had the same engine as the t120🤔
It's pretty much the same motor. In the Speed Twin (and Thruxton) it's badged as the 1200HP and makes 96 horsepower and 82 ft-lb torque. In the T120 and others it's badged as the 1200HT and makes 80 horsepower and 77 ft-lb torque.
Van Blamm
Thank you for clarifying that.
incorrect most Japanese bikes valve inspection is at 15k-18k and most owners skip even doing that since almost all usually are in spec.Example I had VFR800 and never checked and never skipped a beat.
The bike is in need of a new name. The Triumph Squeal Twin. A lot of owners(myself included) have a loud and annoying squeal from the front brakes. Triumph admits there is a problem and as yet, they do not have a permanent fix. Their words, not mine. Buyer beware. It’s really annoying.
I have experienced this too. A lot of folks say it goes away over time, and mine largely has, but I still get the squeal when braking below like seven mph. Doesn't ruin the bike, but it's very stupid that Triumph can't or won't figure out a solution.
How can a bike of this capacity be so pedantic
nice looking bike with bad suspension and brakes.
Triumph definitely cheaped out on the suspension, although I've been living with it just fine. The Brembo front brake is fantastic, but unfortunately it's mated to a shoddy off-brand rotor that's prone to seizing if the bobbins get even a little bit dirty.
@@VanBlamm push the bike slightly or get two up on it, you will see the brakes are so limited with the front suspension . Almost wish triumph did a proper version like a throxton rs better brakes and better suspension. very nice bike otherwise.
Kawasaki z900rs takes care of both problems without sacrificing great retro look. It also has a much easier access to gas tank, although I use premium and get around 46 mpg.
The bike is such a nice looking pice of nostalgia, shame the rider can’t make an effort ( yellow helmet ) it just ruins the look .
I'm just about due for a new helmet, actually. Any suggestions?
Anti lock brakes just killed the sale for me. Absolute rubbish.
That's unfortunate. What're you gonna get instead?
@@VanBlamm Building my own design.
@@craigpennington1251 Please post a vid when you get done!
Hate your videos. They make me want that bike soooo much. Have a Tracer 9 GT right now which is perfect, but does not have a soul…..that is really the only thing wrong with it. Will probably get the Triumph anyway.
Hah thanks. A Speed Twin 1200 and Tracer 9 GT would make great stablemates if you can have both!
P.S. This bike looks plastic. (NOT REAL).