I bought the Titan in 2022 to help with the rising gas prices and to get around town. So far its done just that for cheap with no mechanical issues. I did do a quasi supermoto mod with shinko 705s tires.
Biggest difference is... The titan dlx has the same 230cc NB engine as the hawk/tao tao tbr7/ etc and the templar has the newer actual 249cc engine. 230 makes 15 HP n the 249 makes 19 hp
Thanks for the review and up-close videos. I would be cautious about overselling what these can do. No one should be buying a $1400 dirtbike to do freestyle motocross, backflips, tricks over the bars, or take one to the X-Games. And stay out of the skate park especially when kids are skating there like in your other video.
Great video! I have a 2021 X Pro Titan 250. Was wondering where I could purchase new plastics for it. Or if there’s another bike who’s plastics are identical to the Titan 250. Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks
Bro, the suspension on either bike can't handle any significant jump, and freestyle bikes are highly modified for a reason. You take that bike on an MX track and you might last 1 heat and thats a big might.
Also new Chinese bike is the KPX250. It's the 249cc butfuel injected. Makes 20HP and so far only sold by Venom Motorsports. Love these disposable dualsport.
Bar height? Front and rear Shock travel? Adjustable forks and shock, compression, rebound, or nothing front and just preload rear? Curb weight (with gas and oil)? Overall length? Wheelbase? Does Kick Start work with dead battery? Kick start obstructed by footpeg? Footpeg spring on right side removed so it can fold up when starting? (some china bikes come this way) I'm finding no two websites that agree on anything but tire size regarding this bike, if you have first hand knowledge from measuring, weighing etc, it would be much appreciated.
Lost all credibility when you started talking about freestyle and racing. There’s no world that these bikes would be competitive in either case. Sell a few more these and then go buy a real bike, then tell me how they are even comparable.
You're the guy at airsoft who says, what's the point, it's not even real bullets... go shoot someone with an ar15.... these are beginner bikes. So beginner freestyle or racing would be fine on these bikes
He lost me when he said “if you think Chinese bikes are bad, you’re an idiot.” The majority of Chinese bikes are bad. Some aren’t terrible, and I’m absolutely planning on getting one I can beat on, but to say any of them are good is an outright lie you say when you’re peddling these things. The dirt bikes and dual sports are fine, but if it isn’t cf moto, I’m not spending money on a Chinese street bike. Ever. Have you seen the yammie noob review of the venom they tried to pay him for a review of? 😂
Great comparison! I was wondering what the difference was between the Titan and templar was. Have you had a chance of trying a Templar x or the new Templar m yet?
@@scaggitis there any big bore kits for either of these and based solely on statistics and the bang for your buck which one could I buy and upgrade and get the most potential out of if aftermarket parts exist I’m assuming these are Chinese clones of other name brand bikes
I can’t find where you’re selling the Templar. I also think that everyone is running out of stock of the Templar 250, they’re replacing them with the 250 X. I reached out to XproUSA, they said they’re not stocking them anymore.
I sell some replacement parts on my eBay store but what I carry is very limited at this time. Right now we are in the process of relocating to Nevada and setting up a whole dealership/rental business/store where we will carry replacement parts. We will be shipping things as well.
Axles, seals, and bearings. You want to line up the axles before you send them home, so they don’t corrode and stick when you’re trying to remove them later. You live the seals, so the axles don’t scuff them up when you insert the axle.
I got a question, so on the Templar is it legal to like drive on back roads like 25mph roads ans also is it ok to do jumps on the titan or will the be bad for the bike
Are these bikes like clones of other bikes?? Can you upgrade them like big bore kits? Also what engine is in them sorry for the spam of questions but I can’t find any information on these bikes as far as the engine goes thanks for any information
With a weight limit of 176 lbs. even with passenger foot pegs Your passenger better only weigh a few lbs. NO PASSENGER EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY ITS OKAY. !!!!!!!!
Hello. great video! Very informative. Q: I’m looking to buy a bike for basic riding around town, Bombing through curves on nearby hilly roads, etc. Trying to decide between the Templar X 250 and the Titan DLX 250 currently. Someone also recommended the Apollo DB36 as well. Kind of leaning towards Templar X due to the larger displacement and bonus of 6th gear. Would most likely swap tires over to a 6/40 or 50/50 tread regardless of which bike I get for better road handling if that a variable. Any insights or thoughts are very much appreciated. Thanks!! -Ryan
Hey Ryan, I’m very sorry for the late reply. I had a pretty big surgery that I’ve been recovering from for the past few weeks so I haven’t been keeping up with Internet stuff throughout my recovery. I am going to have a Templar instock in a little over a week. Here is my email address. Feel free to reach out and I would be happy to build and sell you a bike :) Lightdesignsllc@gmail.com
the only bad thing about chinese bikes are they are like a decade behind newer bikes...the plus to this is when it comes to fixing them many old school ways work to fix them, no need for a fancy computer to get the job done. lol
I got a cuestión there is templar m and x I see it is the new model they are heavier and bigger than the regular templar which do you think is better about suspension and ext?
The Templar X is heavier because it has more stuff on it and it is a 6-speed transmission adding more weight. I would recommend the Templar X if you are going to do more adventure riding and less jumps. If you are focused on doing jumps I would recommend the Templar m
Why would I pay 3000 to you for a bike I can get for 2000 from the company. Because I ad a tank of gas and change the oil?? Why are people ripping people off like this. Crazy. Could actually get ot for less then 2000 delivered to my door. WOW DUDE WE DONT WANT TO PAY EXTRA SO U CAN DYE YOUR HAIR
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. not trying to hurt your feeling but the way the world Is right now and your trying to rip people off. I mean you don't have to make 1000 or more off each bike. But I'm sure you have no heart to just help people out. Goodluck KARMA is watching you
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. my local dealership don't even mark up that much. And your not a dealership if u are then I can buy a bike from you and anything that goes wrong with it you can fix right?? Prob not so just stop making yourself look worse. Really don't rip people off like that. If that the case I'm buying one this week for 1800 so I guess I can put it together and sell it for 3000. But I have a better grip on people not having that much money. And i was going to spend 3000 why not just pay a little more and get a Honda or Yamaha. My local shop has a trr230 for 2500 so tell me why I should buy from. You? What kinda customer support do I get with the blue headed one. I will wait. Um didn't think so.
Nobody is is backflipping either of these bikes 🤣 or racing them.. or doing anything else with them you said you could do haha You're lucky to get back home on either of these bikes
I have a Templar 250 and last night it’s cut off when I pulled the clutch in and now it won’t start and when it does start, I can ride off but it shuts down when I stop. Any suggestions?
No need on 4 stroke. Just avoid red lining it until it's second out change. At least that's what I did on my titan but there is no break in on a 4 stroke. See the dirtbike channel for more info on that.
Well i just scrolled through and read each one and made it till it stopped at 1 year ago. No backflips. Record a backflip on one of these or you are a joke. And i dont mean 2 years from now because it takes you that long to 1st learn how to backflip and secondly actually accomplish one on camera. I mean wothin a week of my comment. If you have done them before do it in 1 weeks time or we are all going to just laugh at your idiotic BS.
Deal! I’ll show you! And when I post a video of myself doing a backflip, you have to subscribe with notifications turned on for the next 10 years of your life!
I bought the Titan in 2022 to help with the rising gas prices and to get around town. So far its done just that for cheap with no mechanical issues. I did do a quasi supermoto mod with shinko 705s tires.
Biggest difference is... The titan dlx has the same 230cc NB engine as the hawk/tao tao tbr7/ etc and the templar has the newer actual 249cc engine. 230 makes 15 HP n the 249 makes 19 hp
Which is faster? I’m assuming the new engine but is it reliable?
@@huskyman_4life393 yeah. Modeled after the Honda crf250l. Same just Chinese.
Titan uses the cb style overhead cam 223cc while the hawk/tbr7 is the cg style pushrod 229cc
The titan has an overhead cam engine. The hawk /tbr7 have pushrod engines, and lower rev limits.
@@dahweaveroffate8250 didn't see your post lol. My bad.
Man, nice but could have done without the tinker bell music !
I wish I could take this chick seriously
Lol, oh no! My feelings! What am I going to do!?
Thanks for the review and up-close videos. I would be cautious about overselling what these can do. No one should be buying a $1400 dirtbike to do freestyle motocross, backflips, tricks over the bars, or take one to the X-Games. And stay out of the skate park especially when kids are skating there like in your other video.
lol
Obviously you have no stock in Healthcare.
Looking for a new bike for the outdoor nationals ! Look no farther!!😂
😂
Great video! I have a 2021 X Pro Titan 250. Was wondering where I could purchase new plastics for it. Or if there’s another bike who’s plastics are identical to the Titan 250. Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks
I was wondering the same thing. Currently scrolling through the comments
Bro, the suspension on either bike can't handle any significant jump, and freestyle bikes are highly modified for a reason. You take that bike on an MX track and you might last 1 heat and thats a big might.
1 heat not happening.
Also new Chinese bike is the KPX250. It's the 249cc butfuel injected. Makes 20HP and so far only sold by Venom Motorsports. Love these disposable dualsport.
Also sold by Orion as an RXB 250L. I have the older 2021 carb version.
@@vosburght rxb250l is now fuel injected. For 3k delivered can't argue. Better than a crf230l and costs 1k less all day
OMG is this for real
@@troyoser5911 is what for real lol
@@scaggitAm I real? Who am I?
Thanks very well done!!!
Bar height?
Front and rear Shock travel?
Adjustable forks and shock,
compression, rebound, or nothing front and
just preload rear?
Curb weight (with gas and oil)?
Overall length?
Wheelbase?
Does Kick Start work with dead battery?
Kick start obstructed by footpeg?
Footpeg spring on right side removed so it can
fold up when starting? (some china bikes come this way)
I'm finding no two websites that agree on anything but tire
size regarding this bike, if you have first hand knowledge
from measuring, weighing etc, it would be much appreciated.
Lost all credibility when you started talking about freestyle and racing. There’s no world that these bikes would be competitive in either case. Sell a few more these and then go buy a real bike, then tell me how they are even comparable.
You're the guy at airsoft who says, what's the point, it's not even real bullets... go shoot someone with an ar15.... these are beginner bikes. So beginner freestyle or racing would be fine on these bikes
@@tgndeath3ater832no, they wouldn’t. You can get a far better, used Japanese expert bike for less, and be far more competitive.
He lost me when he said “if you think Chinese bikes are bad, you’re an idiot.” The majority of Chinese bikes are bad. Some aren’t terrible, and I’m absolutely planning on getting one I can beat on, but to say any of them are good is an outright lie you say when you’re peddling these things. The dirt bikes and dual sports are fine, but if it isn’t cf moto, I’m not spending money on a Chinese street bike. Ever. Have you seen the yammie noob review of the venom they tried to pay him for a review of? 😂
how do you go about getting new plastics for the titan
Will you be purchasing the Templar x to review, I’m considering buying one as my first bike I would just appreciate more info on it?
I have one the X is bigger and now it is 6 speed
thank you for the info!!
Great comparison! I was wondering what the difference was between the Titan and templar was. Have you had a chance of trying a Templar x or the new Templar m yet?
Templar M is 5 speed. X is counter-balanced 6 speed. Titan has the 230cc engine making 15 hp and Templar has 250cc making 19 hp.
I'm breaking mine in, and I'm very happy so far. Engine e is smooth throughout, shifts are crisp..
@@scaggit Doesn't the X have adjustable suspension but the M does not?
@@scaggitis there any big bore kits for either of these and based solely on statistics and the bang for your buck which one could I buy and upgrade and get the most potential out of if aftermarket parts exist I’m assuming these are Chinese clones of other name brand bikes
I can’t find where you’re selling the Templar. I also think that everyone is running out of stock of the Templar 250, they’re replacing them with the 250 X. I reached out to XproUSA, they said they’re not stocking them anymore.
Enjoyed the video. Good info.
Which would you recommend for someone around 225lbs
No ever has done Free style moto cross on these lil turds 😂 . Great lil bikes and all, for the price
You really need to try the templar X 250. They just made a 6 speed
Yeah, I was thinking of stocking them, the Engine is counter balanced too!
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. hust put one on layaway im so pumped yallz the x model blak n grey with different headlight too an they have scrape plate
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. has adjustable suspension as well night and day difference
what instrumental is in the background its so fire
It’s Bonner by Sebii
Hey great video I seen you say the Templar suspension is able to be adjusted is it true ?
Yes, I have my rear shock pretty tight and my front forks as tight as they go. There is adjustments on the entire suspension system
Where do I find parts for my 250 dlx
Smaller front wheel keeps from unwanted wheelies while hot shotting through your gears.😎
Is that supposed to sound ass backwards? Cuz I does
@@K_Nasty your high
Hi, great video.
Have you made any upgrade to the suspension? I am looking for advise to vhange mine
No not yet but the plan is to do that soon
How about the hawk & templar compared?
I would love to but I don't have my hawk anymore
Where do you look for parts? Brake pads/ cables/ other normal wear parts?
I sell some replacement parts on my eBay store but what I carry is very limited at this time. Right now we are in the process of relocating to Nevada and setting up a whole dealership/rental business/store where we will carry replacement parts. We will be shipping things as well.
Hey I was wondering if one I'd better to put in a truck than the other or if they are both to big?
Depends on what length your bed is, most dirt bikes fit in most trucks
I have a Templar m came with a big bag of grease what does it go to and any tips on building it
Axles, seals, and bearings. You want to line up the axles before you send them home, so they don’t corrode and stick when you’re trying to remove them later. You live the seals, so the axles don’t scuff them up when you insert the axle.
would you recommend this or the xpro 150 i’m 5’5 169
What're the top speeds on these? Looking for a daily commuter
How do you start the Templar 250
Hold down the front brake as you hit the starter
I got a question, so on the Templar is it legal to like drive on back roads like 25mph roads ans also is it ok to do jumps on the titan or will the be bad for the bike
Are these bikes like clones of other bikes?? Can you upgrade them like big bore kits? Also what engine is in them sorry for the spam of questions but I can’t find any information on these bikes as far as the engine goes thanks for any information
Dude absolutely no one takes a dirt bike to a FN skate park wtf lmfao
Yes they do lmao
Absolutely no one! *literally he's filming IN A SKATE PARK*
Hey, my xpro titan battery keeps burning the fuse amp when I try to connect the negative and positive
With a weight limit of 176 lbs. even with passenger foot pegs Your passenger better only weigh a few lbs. NO PASSENGER EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY ITS OKAY. !!!!!!!!
Hello. great video! Very informative.
Q: I’m looking to buy a bike for basic riding around town, Bombing through curves on nearby hilly roads, etc. Trying to decide between the Templar X 250 and the Titan DLX 250 currently. Someone also recommended the Apollo DB36 as well. Kind of leaning towards Templar X due to the larger displacement and bonus of 6th gear. Would most likely swap tires over to a 6/40 or 50/50 tread regardless of which bike I get for better road handling if that a variable. Any insights or thoughts are very much appreciated. Thanks!!
-Ryan
i personally recommend the titan its just statistically better
@@adrianpoindexter7783better how? Smaller engine? Lower ground clearance?
Just remember they sell the templer with a 5speed and a 6speed transmission. So make sure you order the 6speed if that's what your looking for
Where are they selling the 6 speed I’ve only seen 5 speed?
Hey man i live in nh i see you plate on the templar .i was wondering if your still in buisness and what you have got cash bro
Hey Ryan, I’m very sorry for the late reply. I had a pretty big surgery that I’ve been recovering from for the past few weeks so I haven’t been keeping up with Internet stuff throughout my recovery. I am going to have a Templar instock in a little over a week. Here is my email address. Feel free to reach out and I would be happy to build and sell you a bike :)
Lightdesignsllc@gmail.com
Bro nice video , yo do you happened to know where can I find rear sprockets for the Titan 250cc
the only bad thing about chinese bikes are they are like a decade behind newer bikes...the plus to this is when it comes to fixing them many old school ways work to fix them, no need for a fancy computer to get the job done. lol
How hard will these templars be to title and register in Michigan?
Depends if the title says motorcycle or off road motorcycle.
I got a cuestión there is templar m and x I see it is the new model they are heavier and bigger than the regular templar which do you think is better about suspension and ext?
The Templar X is heavier because it has more stuff on it and it is a 6-speed transmission adding more weight. I would recommend the Templar X if you are going to do more adventure riding and less jumps. If you are focused on doing jumps I would recommend the Templar m
The templar 250 in the mco mso said off road only?
MCO is labelled as Motorcycle. 49 state legal. Not california
Do these bikes say "off road only" on the title? I've heard mixed answers on that. Trying to see what's involved in getting one street legal, in Pa.
All of the ones I have sold say Motorcycle on the title and are fully street legal
It depends on your state
Its the exact same bike compare one to non road legal one. Or a RPS magician vs one of these base cheap one with drum brakes on the rear
Can i make this dirt tyre to motored tyre i mean supermoto 🙏
Why would I pay 3000 to you for a bike I can get for 2000 from the company. Because I ad a tank of gas and change the oil?? Why are people ripping people off like this. Crazy. Could actually get ot for less then 2000 delivered to my door. WOW DUDE WE DONT WANT TO PAY EXTRA SO U CAN DYE YOUR HAIR
Lol oh no, my feelings!
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. not trying to hurt your feeling but the way the world Is right now and your trying to rip people off. I mean you don't have to make 1000 or more off each bike. But I'm sure you have no heart to just help people out. Goodluck KARMA is watching you
Lol ok, tell that to your local dealership.
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. my local dealership don't even mark up that much. And your not a dealership if u are then I can buy a bike from you and anything that goes wrong with it you can fix right?? Prob not so just stop making yourself look worse. Really don't rip people off like that. If that the case I'm buying one this week for 1800 so I guess I can put it together and sell it for 3000. But I have a better grip on people not having that much money. And i was going to spend 3000 why not just pay a little more and get a Honda or Yamaha. My local shop has a trr230 for 2500 so tell me why I should buy from. You? What kinda customer support do I get with the blue headed one. I will wait. Um didn't think so.
Does this look like a kitty cat face?
=*.*=
The background music was terrible. Bro forgot to put it in the BACKGROUND! Less than half that volume would have been ideal.
Which is faster?
Probably the Templar
Nobody is is backflipping either of these bikes 🤣 or racing them.. or doing anything else with them you said you could do haha You're lucky to get back home on either of these bikes
What’s it like living your life having no idea what you’re talking about?
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo.He's right.. these are a total waste of money. If you've ever rode 1 real motorcycle in your life, you would know this.
@@franklynn4200sounds like you know absolutely nothing. Go outside and touch some grass or something. Loser.
@franklynn4200 you're gonna make him cry now lol
LoL He only "knows what he's talking about" because he reads the box, those super accurate Chinese descriptions lol
How do contact your sales department?
I have a Templar 250 and last night it’s cut off when I pulled the clutch in and now it won’t start and when it does start, I can ride off but it shuts down when I stop. Any suggestions?
Raise your idle
Buy a Honda.
@@mardono1😂
Do they have the exact motor model?
I believe the Titan is a CRF230 clone engine.
Is that bikes equipped with rev limiter my friend ??
yes, both have rev limiters
I've had the worst luck with my titan the frame cracked on both sides never even took it of pavement 😢
return it. sounds like you got a bad one. that can happen with any company
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. nah there all garbage imo I’ve looked all over on marketplace and just about everyone I see is cracked in the same spot
@@kingboicheyryder7817 bull shit, you got a lemon/ or your lying completely.
@@kingboicheyryder7817 lol b.s. I have a templar x never had issue has 10 k miles you probably abused it never heard any cracking
Id ike to know how you heat cycled the Templar
It’s a secret
No need on 4 stroke. Just avoid red lining it until it's second out change. At least that's what I did on my titan but there is no break in on a 4 stroke. See the dirtbike channel for more info on that.
Can I see it wheelie?
Where do u sell them¿¿?
Amazon
Direct dealer
Freestyle motocross on a chinese bike? Hahaha.....should have known when i saw the blue hair
Gpx moto and lifan have the best air cooled 250 bikes Orion sells the rxb250. Just better quality reason bikes cost a little more
Where can I order mines ?
I'm still working on getting a official site set up. You can place an order through email for the time being. Lightdesignsllc@gmail.com
@@BadNeighborSupplyCo. how much ya bikes go for
Hello, Could've been interesting; Unfortunately the music on the background ruined it all🇧🇻🐺
Had to stop watching. Trying to focus on what you’re talking about over the music was too hard to do. Thanks though.
Sorry about that
Me too, background music is annoying.
@mardono1 yeah..I thought it was me..but that background music ugggh..😵💫😵💫
“Why is there dirt on my dirt bike” bro….
do u ship
I can deliver to pretty much anywhere in New England but not outside of that. I will be soon though :)
You poor soul😢
bro lookin like ruby da cherry from 2017 or smth 💀😭
X games enduro any trail wow.
3k???? i have have these bikes shipped to anyone here for $1700 to their home. smh
Then do it?
No you don't lol
In a box disassembled maybe. Ain't nobody got time for that.
@@themajesticdeer6938 I did. 2 of them. But go off. Titan x 250
The info is great but that "music" is so annoying.
Aww sebii is great tho
Can you supermoto a templar?
Jesus Christ I was with you till you said you sell at 1200$ bike for 3k 🤦🏻♂️
Dude stop on the freestyle motocross its embarrassing.
Enjoy ya Life and not Dying LMAoYoooooo!!!!! its a muffler why would u touch it lol
Seems like im absorbing about 10 percent of sll those words
Well, at least that’s something
What! He has a wife!
Worrh noting the Templar has a 249.9cc engine with 19hp, while the Titan is a 223cc engine with 16hp.
Wrong, it's actually 249cc
Not 249.99. Get your facts straight
@@themajesticdeer6938 Wrong, Zongshen lists it at 249.9cc. Get your facts straight
@@PotatoeJoe69 you are blatantly wrong 🤣
My titan is heavy
Ok
Lol he said 3k
Well i just scrolled through and read each one and made it till it stopped at 1 year ago. No backflips. Record a backflip on one of these or you are a joke. And i dont mean 2 years from now because it takes you that long to 1st learn how to backflip and secondly actually accomplish one on camera. I mean wothin a week of my comment. If you have done them before do it in 1 weeks time or we are all going to just laugh at your idiotic BS.
Deal! I’ll show you! And when I post a video of myself doing a backflip, you have to subscribe with notifications turned on for the next 10 years of your life!
Don't do a backflip on this bike lots of parts are casted steel. Suspension is soft. You stand a good chance of dying.
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