On wearing the hijab | Narjes Jaafar and Sally Beydoun | TEDxLAU
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2016
- The hijab or veil has become one of the most discussed pieces of clothing in modern times. One cannot read the news without stumbling upon a story of discrimination related to what a woman was wearing at some specific time, and things seem to be getting worse.
We often judge people before we hear their stories, and this is what Sally Beydoun and Narjes Jaafar are trying to battle. Narjes, a second year medical student, and Sally, a fifth year pharmacy student, are not at TEDxLAU to present a drug that will make people less judgmental and empathize before they jump to conclusions. They are actually going to put their medical background behind and join forces to present their personal journeys with the hijab.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
This is a BEAUTIFUL presentation. I love how they juxtaposed the two opposing choices in such a respectful way via a back and forth discussion with each other. Simply lovely. We could all learn to do this more with people who differ from us. I am putting this on facebook. Thank you for sharing your perspectives.
Very educative dialogue
I wore hijab because in my family they used to tell us that women who don't cover up will be suspended from their lashes! And they will burn in flames after death! That made me grow up with a weak personality and low self love and esteem because I wasn't convinced that I should do this or follow that and at the same time I couldn't take my own decisions ..Growing in a muslim family who doesn't understand islam as it should be understood is the worst. now I'm trying to find the path that's most real and true to myself it's not easy but I'll try
So did christian men and women. They have been terrorized like this during 19 centuries living in other eyes, judgment and fear of tyrannic God.. Thank free thinking, Giordano Bruno,and other philosophers . We now can choose , Laïc system is a relief since 1905 it took us 68 years to free our brains from inside chains of foolishness.
Just move ahead fight for your own and do what you want.
You can do, yeah! there is fear when we take first step but after that either you fail or pass, you will feel good.
Because even you tried. And believe me you will not fear again to take your next move.
I am glad you recognize that what they taught you, and how they taught you was not in accordance with Islam, and not to be associated with the hijab which is a beautiful, liberating, and spiritual experience for many.
Such a beautiful message: ACCEPT MY STORY. ACCEPT MY CHOICES. ACCEPT ME. It's the choice of an individual woman to wear or take-off hijab - no one, I mean, NO ONE should force her to do otherwise :)
Are you able to explain why you decided it !
It's a personal choice to wear it or not.
I started wearing hijab since my first day in college (med school) and it was my choice, no one forced me to wear it, my parents even didn't want me to wear it since they were thinking that I was still young and my older sister doesn't wear it, but at the end they accepted my choice
What I want to say is that not all hijabis are forced to wear hijab!! why is it so hard for you guys to understand?
Sorry for my bad English...
with your personal experience regarding Hijab it seems like you believe it to be a personal choice. but in the eyes of our Creator , the muslim women are suppose to wear it. I mean in Islam, it has not been made an option for the women. you see there is this difference.
Omair Enam there is a choice of doing good or bad. There are many things we do that we are not supposed to do and it’s natural. We just can’t stop doing wrong stuff. We shouldn’t judge anyone based on what they do unless they are harming us or the society
you know i see this alot, and im really glad that you had the choice. You are the rare amount of girls that actually have a choice when most girls actually the majority are forced to wear it.
@Andalus101 it is clearly stated in quran.. In surah7 Ahzab i think .. Go and read it
It's not personal choice. It's obligatory for all women.we can't simply say this is my choice and i wish i don’t wear.What if the decision come jahannam/hellfire even you bring lot of good deeds, prayer,sadaka,fasting etc?If we don't wear hijab which is the obligated for us it might be happen with us.
Remember hijab doesn’t mean just cover head and hair by a piece of cloth and wear tight fit pants t-shirt. Covering all body head to bottom by lose cloth which cannot understand the part of body.
It does not matter if you wear hijab or not, just be a good person and believe in yourself, respect and love yourself.
Absolutely
Great video! I love how both women were celebrated and respected by each other and by the crowd.
I wish this video had more views and better subtitles. It is awesome! So much love for these two women
What we have to remember is that the hijab means covering, not the headscarf. I am a Muslim, but I do not wear the headscarf. Even though I don't wear the headscarf, I still dress modestly, not wearing any form of clothing that exposes too much skin. For me personally, modest dressing includes a t-shirt, up to at least elbow length, as well as knee-length trousers, skirts and dresses. As well as this, (my own choice!), I don't wear make - up or make my hair look fancy as this is something I've had no interest in whatsover and because by not wearing make up or having my hair a certain way, people don't fixate on something superficial. Instead, it is my personality and intelligence (I hope!) that seems to win people over.
She got a nice long hair... in my country, people believe hair and teeth are women’s jewellery .... so appreciate long hair a lot
Beautiful!! Thank you for expressing what closed minded people need to hear. All people should have the freedom to make any life choices that "work" for them without hurting others. And, most especially, women need to support each other's choices regarding education, marriage, child rearing, employment and reproduction. The premise of our great nation is to strive for respect and opportunity for everyone.
I am so PROUD of this hijabi ! She seems so smart ,strong, confident, down to earth, beyond superficiality, knows exactly what she wants and proud of her choices !
But you wouldn't be proud of a woman who doesn't want to wear the hijab in an Islamic country.
Why is that?
Smithpolly nothing is wrong with that.
12 : there's nothing wrong with what?
Smithpolly with being not proud of a woman who doesn't want to wear hijab in an Islamic country.
Brilliant, emotive & thought provoking talk!
lets be honest, decency has nothing to do with Hijab. in other words, hijab does not bring decency if person naturally does not possess it. As a Muslim, I have seen many girls with Hijab who have done things that cannot be done by many girls without Hijab.
Tom Jones true but its command from God thats also one of the reasons we wear it.
Aniza : People have said it's a command from a God. That's not the same thing as it being a command from a God
Aniza Yassin
Well, it's men interpretation of some verses on how it should look.
The thing is, it's about attitude not about a scarf.
You are polarising the issue.
You cannot point at extremes to make a generalisation.
Technically speaking the term "Hijab" actually means decency or respectful and it applies both to men and women, the men have to do hijab as in be decent and respectful towards women as in not to look at her in a perverted manner or out of lust or desire or as a piece of meat and to wear modest clothing and not dress up like a stripper or a porn star out in public and the same goes for women.
The thing you're talking of is just a veil.
Everyday I put on my hijab I am reminded that I own myself not society. I am my own beauty and not what society decides.
Daylight : Do men not own their own beauty?
Yes but it's mostly controlled by society. I have so many friends that don't have what society considered "perfect" body,fuller lips, skin color,etc...so those friends feel less beautiful than everyone else. Are they really not beautiful? They are so beautiful but they allow society own the say rather you're beautiful..or not. However by putting on my hijab, it tell me that I'm different from what society expects me to be :). Therefore, I don't have to worry about the standards society puts for me to follow.
Daylight Queen : So you're not a Muslim?
the boi Yup. Middle Eastern dictatorships. In the United States of America. Was Muslim women who have been wearing it since they were little kids. Who are born and raised in America. And are 100% American citizens.
bla bla bla
I'm a person by birth a Muslim. I'm not much have an in depth knowledge of the rules regarding clothing of woman. the only thing I know is women should hide her private. I give my wife the full rights to choose. How she should dress, what type she should wear are all her choices. I cannot force my wishes on her. The reason for that I respect her individuality. That applies to my kids too. Al hamdu lillh I'm satisified with what I have and Allah has given me a wonderful wife & kids
0607saki : Your parents may have been Muslims when you were born but you certainly weren't. Babies don't have the mental capacity to be member of any religion.
0607saki , Although you probably mean well, You just don't see the irony in your statement that .''I give my wife the full rights to choose.'' . What of the woman who does not receive her husbands permission
Smithpolly every person on earth is born Muslim (submitted to God). It's by growing that they forget God
wish everyone was like u man.
@@lostirish405 doesn't seem like English is their first language. I'm pretty sure they mean, my wife has full rights to dress as she chooses
Glad to see both of them sharing a same stage with such a nice smile and confidence in their decisions :)
"I will break all the obstacles I face because just like every successful person did - hijabi or not - obstacles are there, and for me, my hijab is not an obstacle."
Its a personal choice to wear or not to wear the hijab. Just like wearing a hat or a scarf. But subjecting each and every woman in the country to wear it against their will and discriminating them if they don't wear , is absolute nonsense.
It's not a personal choice in Iran or Saudi Arabia lol
Actually if you read the Hadiths you will realize that the Veiling was the idea of Omar bin Al Khattab, the companion of Mohammed. One day while he was vising Mohammed he saw Sauda in the open attending to the call of nature. He came back and told Mohammed that he should ask their wives to cover up as many people visit him and some of them may have bad intentions towards them if they saw her face and body. Immediately the next day the verse of Veiling was revealed exactly as Omar had mentioned.(hadiths of Bukhari). If it was not because of OMAR BIN AL KHATTAB , muslim woman would not be veiling themselves. It was not the idea of the prophet.Volume 6, Book 60, Number 10: Narrated Anas: Umar said, "I agreed with Allah in three things," or said, "My Lord agreed with me in three things. I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Would that you took the station of Abraham as a place of prayer.' I also said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons visit you! Would that you ordered the Mothers of the believers to cover themselves with veils.' So the Divine Verses of Al-Hijab (i.e. veiling of the women) were revealed. I came to know that the Prophet had blamed some of his wives so I entered upon them and said, 'You should either stop (troubling the Prophet ) or else Allah will give His Apostle better wives than you.' When I came to one of his wives, she said to me, 'O 'Umar! Does Allah's Apostle haven't what he could advise his wives with, that you try to advise them?' " Thereupon Allah revealed:-- "It may be, if he divorced you (all) his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you Muslims (who submit to Allah).." (66.5)
its not always a choice
excellent research!
no its not - research is flawed when it does not view all context. Clearly the hijab is enforced in many countries and the enforcers cite the Koran for their reason.
These women are making a CHOICE... that's the difference! They are not forced to wear the hijab!
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Like the women in Saudi and Iran, who when they dont want to wear and it is their choice, they are then being beaten by religous police and their parents? Try harder next time buddy.
mashallah, we need more ppl like the hijabi in this crule and judgmental world.
I believe wearing or not wearing hijab is personal choice !
Rohit Goyal'S قفغفص
It's true, it's not mandated in the Quran contrary to popular belief, and in some aspects, it's warned against the mandate.
For example: Hadith: ”Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a veil.”
I have not read Koran so i don't know what Hadith says but as i believe No God/Allah would impose any precondition for listening to anyone's prayer .Only one should have pure loving heart that's enough.
Rohit G. A God who would roast your skin off in Hell if you don't believe he exists while you're on Earth, seems very likely to be the type of God who would have a lot of unreasonable preconditions.
Rohit G
only in non islamic countries
I love how they respected & accepted each other by how they are smiling at each other and looking at each other 🥺😍❤️❤️❤️❤️
Brilliant, emotive & thought provoking talk I really love your speech.
its really wonderful that they are not trying to argue with one another just sharing their opinion and stories
Great ! Outstanding ! "Accept my choice and accept my story " These two girls are telling their personal experiences, Nothing to do with Religion and Islam
I don't always wear hijab. I wear sometimes. Thank you for your message!
me i just put my scarf around my neck. When I am with muslim men,i respect the crowd by wearing hijab. But when I am in an audience of Christians, i take off my hijab and hang it around my neck.....
Me too
@@sitti_dove5476 you must wear the hijab everywhere, if you wear it and do not take it off in front of strangers, be they muslims , christians or atheists
@@user-su4jr2px6p Im not sure you r muslim or what coz i cant understand your name spelling. But you r perfectly correct
@@sitti_dove5476 Same like other Muslim who sometimes pray and sometimes skip it. But the prophet message is clear. May Allah guide you more
I love how both women have two different view points on the topic yet both take the time to explain their views and support each other so very much throughout the speech - well done xx
We don't have to justify to NO ONE I said NO ONE I'm Muslim and I'm proud Alhumdulillah Allah swt had mercy on us to chose us to be Muslim.
No one likes Islam, will
Will you please go away some place where Islam is appreciated??
Nusrat Rizvi Palm City Fl
@@NusratRizvi-ox3fg and nobody likes haters like you
Your dad choose you isn't it?
Amazing , I'm not against or with Hijab it's a personal matter and choice , but Sally was influential and more emotional , applause to Sally :) I enjoyed the video so much .. thank you Sally and Narjes :)
I wear hijab by choice!❤
Always bad hair day ? I think Mohammed told you that or your father, brother...
meena. lol, no you don't, liar.
lmao y do u think I will dress to impress my dad or brother? I started wearing it cuz my friends were wearing it in high school but later took it off. I then started mosque and learned the main reason y we wear it. however, I still didn't always wear. I only started wearing it properly like a year ago and that's when boys were calling me names which made me feel uncomfortable. BTW I'm 20 and pretty sure I can make my own choices thanks
Dimmaz-World not really. even though I wear hajib, I still wash my hair every morning and braid it before going to college or work.
Brainwashing isn't a choice. It's brainwashing.
Funny how the same people are saying Hijabi women are oppressed are just commenting on the other woman's body and appearance. I too wish that as a woman my body didn't define me and I would be respected for me even if I wasn't fully covered. However this is clearly not a reality. All the men who complain about hijabis being oppressed are not feminists? they're simply sexists who don't like the freedom being covered gives a woman. They don't like us to have a choice. They do't like us not being sexualised. They don't like to be forced to see us as a person, rather than an object. Respect to both women, to freedom of choice and all the open-minded people.
Nana : You can't see a woman as a person unless she wears a hijab?
Of course I and many people can and should, this is not my point. What I am trying to say is unless a woman is covered certain people, especially men will look at her and as a piece of ass and tits etc. Wearing a hijab forces you, whether you agree with it or not to respect the person for who they are and not sexualise them.
Nana Abdul : And if certain people say "We can't recognize that women are human beings unless they cover their faces " do you think women should wear burkas in order to gain their respect?
women "should" NOT do anything. Especially to gain respect, certainly not. Everyone deserves respect no matter what they're wearing. But if they feel like they're freer and more respected covering whatever the f they want then they should have the right to without being judged, hated on and criticised. As I said, I support both women by their decision. I am simply stating my opinion about why the hijab might be significant for many. And, to them, is a symbol of freedom rather than oppression.
Nana Abdul : So if a woman lives in a society where she is considered unclean if she doesn't undergo FGM, we should see FGM as a symbol of freedom rather than oppression?
I wish the issue of whether a woman should put a cloth on her head or not was not even a topic of discussion. We should be concerned about solving poverty, malnutrition, and access to water, not wasting time regulating what a woman chooses to wear or not wear. Not sure why, but I get the feeling that - wearing a hijab does indicate that you feel that if you don't wear a one then you are being immodest, or vulgar or drawing attention to other parts of you. I would totally believe the claim that it forces people to focus on just you instead of everything else, only if everyone, both men and women were required to dress in a uniform, like in old British schools. Where the purpose of wearing a uniform was to remove inequality among students and remove distractions of varying colors and accessories that could indicate richness and poorness for example, and leading to sole focus on the student's character through uniformity. Saying the hijab defines you is like saying the make you wear defines you. In my humble opinion, material things don't define you, only you and your actions define you, regardless of the clothes and accessories you wear.
I'm proud of both of you 💝👍👏👏
I believe too the person is free wearing or not wearing hijab
This was really good!!!!!
The world would be a much better place if people respected each other beliefs and opinions like these two ladies did.
They are both so cute!! Thanks ladies.
Great talk from both of them.
I definitely loved these testimonies!!!
Nun's dress like the hijabis,but in the case of former it is looked up with respect but in case of latter with ridicule.Why this double standard?
you will find very few nuns covering themselves these days.
Iqbal Ahmed Because nuns weren’t beaten and forced to wear it for centuries after centuries.
Iqbal Ahmed they're nuns,these women are not nuns. That is the difference.
Oh yeah Just like when women were only given the right to vote in the west about a century ago with rights to property about the same time, something which was already allowed by the dawn of Islam 1400 years ago.
@@abdullahjalil745 on the funny side Islam doesn't allow women to vote ...Saudi Arabia
Islam does not accept the testimony of non believers(kafirs) in court...again Saudi Arabia
Islam does not allow giving the same payment for the same post or job to a non believers as to a believer....Saudi Arabia
How many more such ridiculous,discriminatory, persecutory examples still prevalent in Islamic societies do you want?
12:05 SHOTS FIRED !!
I’m glad to see from two sides of the story
you said it all "all it takes is a smile"
Wear the hijab, fine with me. But when you cover your face and expect to have your drivers licence or any other official picture taken forget it. Your face is your ID.
niqab is more cultural. usually, a woman who wears a face covering will show her face in necessary situations like for IDs. My mother used to wear one in our home country and would lift it for legal checks at airports etc. In front of a woman if possible, but if necessary they will show their face.
@@nourmal1950 yeah considering how masks are imperative in the recent times and I- as a niqabi- never had scruples for showing my face for legal purposes and documentations, we need to allow people roam the street without being alienated for how they wish to live their lives, beliefs, choice of dressing, or lack thereof.
@@nourmal1950 Poor she leaving in fear.Telling its faith
@@DAUGENN my mother is perfectly fine thank you for your concern :))
I find this disturbing, regarding talk about Muslims and the Islamic world. That there is a push toward the idea that Muslims are an ethnicity and that somehow Arabs have a monopoly on the religion of Islam. Everyone who is an advocate of Islam or speaks to interpret Islam in recent years looks the same way which I- being an African-American from an Islamic background, which many of us are-find disturbing. Islam is not an Ethnicity. It is a religion, interpreted through culture. The problem the US has with certain majority Muslim countries is a political problem. Am I wrong?
Wesuhuna Pearson I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that muslims are regarded as an ethnicity and that's arabs are somehow "have the monopoly" as you put it. maybe it's were and how you grew up. I come from an African background myself and grew up in London. in my year Group alone there are Chinese, Morocco, Somali, nigerian, Pakistani, Algerian, Jamaican muslims. so no muslims are not an ethnicity. but we are one ummah regardless of what are cultural differences are. so in a sense we are (or ment to be anyways) one unit if that makes any sense.
emz breezy, thanks for your insight. I'm not talking about the fact of the matter. The fact is that people who practice Islam come from all parts of the globe. I'm talking about the perception being given thru the media. Thru the media, when I see people who speak as Muslims or who try to clarify the position of Muslims, they all look one way. Can you show me an example of someone on TV who speaks as a Muslim who is not from the Middle East?
Wesuhuna Pearson there are plenty of Muslims not from the middle east here on youtube alone. As for the media I'm not sure.
emz breezy are their statements in English? Send me a link.
Wesuhuna Pearson yeah heres their channels names Ali dawah, Musa man, roadside2islam, smile2janna. There's more but I can't remember them atm
Very impactful !
We need more talks like this. Too often, people give their opinions about issues that do not affect them personally. They take decision based on assumption, on their ignorance. Such discrimination can be resolved if one simply speaks to those who do have personal experience with the problem. It is only through discussion that we can obtain understanding of the problems that affect us all.
Such amazing sharing ❣️ Alhamdulillah
the girl wearing hijab got better answers than the other
Although she is completely wrong & send out candy flossed msgs abt a vile & barbaric practice.
yes you want the lady to wear jijab because you cant not controll your man hood
The Anti-Hero Asians r top smart folks, they don't wear hijabs. For most part.
Such beautiful women. Amazing
What's behind the veil?
This was so well done! We all have our own opinions but we should respect one another's choices!
I started wearing hijab by choice as well in my 20's. My parents actually didn't even want me to wear it at first loool! Alhumudlillah Allah gave me the strength to do it one day.
But dont force your daughter to wear hijabs if they dont feel comfortable
this is so peaceful. I must learn to deal with the society like them.
Many women who wear the hijab are independent, strong women, not oppressed or forced to wear it. However, the notion of covering "the adornments" to not evoke lust in men should also be debated! And we can be open and tolerant and still wanting to dicuss why it should be any woman's responsability to cover herself to avoid creepy behaviour from men. And why is there a correlation between a state with bad women's rights and the amount of body parts the woman needs to cover? Why is it that the burka is something Taliban and ISIS wanted the women to wear? Is there NO common idea shared between covering the hair and the whole face? Why are there more women wearing the niqab in Saudi Arabia (poor women's rights) than in Jordan? Say what you want, but the hijab is not a symbol of women's rights.
i loved the speech thank you it was amazing thank you again
I was party person, just simply try it on for one day at home abd didn't take it off all day. I felt very secure, safe, felt closer to God and best of all I found peace. I like hijab for my own safety, modesty, peace and security, the most important things in women life. by the way no women in my family wear hijab and no men ever enforce
Interestingly you said the same reasons people who enforce hijabs on women cite. If we want to or not we become the product of our society.
The 46th president of the United States of America I think none of the religions really supportive of being a part person. also it's a door to lots of troubles starting from DUI, drugs and list goes on, etc.. being conservative I think it's not safe or have any benefits.
you know in muslim countries girls are not allow to party, you are lucky
Have you been to a muslim country ?
visit one then make all the claims you want turkey indonesia malasia dubia qatar oman kuwait jordan palestine tunisia>>>> challange yourself to see the truth with your own eyes
halfvolley11 you obviously have not been to either countries... the issue was the status of women... visit both and then doscuss this issue
why in your country so secure of women wearing a hijab..but if u come in malaysia..a women wearing hijab they just look natural..😂😂
Zanna. Just because something looks natural to you doesn't mean it looks natural to everyone.
same here in my country
Peopleee, don't forget. First comes humanity, which is our duty. And then comes religion or whatever you want.
We are divided because of our culture and religion but we all feel the same joy, pain, fear, anger and, at the the end of the day, we all need kindness and love.
AMEN!!
Brilliant speeches!
I wear hijab by my choice
I am not a Muslim but I think the girl there who is not with Hijab, should wear HIjab as well. I don't mean HIjab actually.. I ask everyone to dress modestly; Not differing men and women.
Shouman : Everyone has a different idea of what is modest.
I do strongly agree with you but I have shared from my point of view. Only hijab is not modest to me, sometimes it is not even; but the outlook matters.
Well.. that's my point of view.
Shouman : So if someone tells you that in their view, you're not modestly dressed unless you're wearing a burka, you would start wearing a burka?
Smithpolly Hope someone won't want a male to do so. And I don't wanna argue.
Shouman : But you don't hope someone won't want a female to do so?
this is amazing.
Hello, it is certainly a beautiful message to the contemporain WORLD... BRAVO to you two :)
Hijab with freedom
no one mentioned why we wear the hijab? The hijab is not only a scarf. It is covering your whole body in a respectfil manner. Its funny how its difficult to accept someone covered ip but someone walking around half naked is acceptable. What does the statue of the virgin Mary look like? Think about it. In the end it is a question of respect for any choice taken to wear or not. Allah jugdes us based on our good intentions.
Someone going around without wearing a scarf on his head is half naked? Really?
mariam Guilbeault I think the issue is that there is not a history in Western civilization where women were, or are, forced to walk around half naked. To say that wearing a hijab can be a personal choice and nothing more reminds me of white southeners that choose to fly the confederate flag and say that it now represents their white southern pride, nothing more, as though it can be divorced from its oppressive, centuries long history, when of course, it can't.
when I see Jihab I see an oppressed woman, if you want to change how we think about this, you have to wait till Islam is dead.
+B Day *Hijab
I doubt women today would like to be judged on the same level as the Virgin Mary, as conservative close minded people would prefer to do.
I didn't find any verse in Quran about Hejab
Have I missed it ?
nice well thought out presentation. can't help but wonder how free either would be to choose what they wear outside of NA, though.
How I wish I could have been there to show my love, tremendous respect and support for Muslim women...
ama62...because they are fellow human beings with the same inherent basic wants & needs as all citizens of the World...deserving Love & respect...I only "judge" people by their true character...nothing else...
ama62...of course my opinion is the same for everyone...I judge a person by their real TRUE character...I'm a Christian & even know a few atheists, & while their "non-belief" saddens me, I have no problem recognizing that they're good, kind & loving individuals I enjoy spending time with...
I don’t wear it I am covered and don’t show much skin but I do have my hair out Islam doesn’t force you to wear a headscarf it’s all personal choice
This is so dumb. The girl who affirms her personal choice to wear the Hijab, tells you that she grew attached to the idea of wearing it, when she was asked why she wasn't wearing one, and don't come tomorrow without one, at a Muslim religious camp. Then even after she left, was reminded to conform and obey, by other members of her peer group. But of course, it's her 'choice' to wear it. There are 3 verses in the Quran that mention the way a woman should dress. None of the versus, names a hijab (barrier or screen), as a part of a woman's recommended attire.
With twits like this running around, it will only be a short time from now, that you will have Pakistani women, giving talks like this. Telling you that the full Burka they wear from head to toe (with gloves), is also personal choice. 'My Burka is an outstanding fashion item and therefore an extension of me as an individual as well!'
I wish I had a script of this talk because I can't clearly hear the voices. What I can hear, I like. I think everyone should be able to be free to choose what they do and wear, as long as they are not harming others.
i dont know what tht summer camp guy xplained u but if u think scientifically hijab is only good in winters not summer
Hemanko Kashyap actually it's good in the summer,it protects from the Suns damage
The sun is also good for people in moderation.
A.G xox
i dont know if u understand how radiation works or not but if u wear a black hijab in summer it'll heat way more quickly on ur skin and u re more likely to get sun-burns moreover u'll develop rashes in ur armpits and groin due to concentrated heat and sweat(physics class11 ncert-publications)
Hemanko Kashyap lol I don't think you know how to not put words into people's mouths,who mentioned anything about black specifically?the damage then comes from the colour not the fact that someone's wearing a hijab,where's your logic?wearing black is bad in the summer,regardless if it's hijab,jumper,t shirt etc.
Hemanko Kashyap lol you won't develop rashes in you armpits from wearing a piece of black material on your head.
I some day wear it and some day don't and believe me I like it both way... it's my own choice when to put it on and when to not but not wearing hijab doesn't change my believes and respect for my religion!
I loved this!!!
I completely agree with the individual Hajar, who echos my thoughts succinctly. I have many friends of both persuasions, and respect each for their individuality. For those who do not travel, do not explore other cultures, do not keep their minds open, I implore you to embrace your humanity and realize we are at a very basic level all the same.
The lady who's not wearing hijab seems less confident in herself than the hijab woman if you ask me.
it seems like she kind of has a tough crowd. A lot of people clapped for the covered woman, I'm sure the other felt the discrepancy.
wagwan6248 She's probably shy. :3
wagwan6248 I think u right👀👀
swanson thats why women where hijab in my opinion, some may consider your idea about them as praise but few may not like you commenting on them, so as a result they where hijab.
A shy woman doesn't wear revealing clothes.
I can wear a dead goat's skull on my head, it is my choice. RESPECT DAT
Good choice by the way. I dig it. That's so metal.
Don't come near me with dead skull!
It's your personal choice Only! if you already find it somewhere, as a skull ofc.
And (remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allâh has chosen you, purified you (from polytheism and disbelief), and chosen you above the women of the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinns) (of her lifetime)."
And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with Allah. Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord Allah shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever. And of his kingdom there shall be no end.
@@MrISkater Le fils dans le sens d'un juste esclave (et les Juifs et les partisans ont dit: Nous sommes enfants de Dieu et de son bien-aimé
Both are pretty young women and they should live as they desire to be as happy as can be.
I want to thank all the women (Muslims and non-Muslims) who cover themselves well and because of that, they face problems. You are pride and really are blessing( for Muslims )
There is no alternative even to the hair of a woman.
Muhammad : You write : "There is no alternative even to the hair of a woman." What does that mean?
May peace and blessing be upon you.
By that, I mean women are such an infinite set of blessing that we can not have an alternative for even the tiniest blessing that we can have from them.
Hair is symbolic of small things that's why I have used hair not hairs.
Why asking???
Muhammed : Are men not an infinite set of blessings?
May peace and blessing be upon you.
Smithpolly: "Are men not an infinite set of blessings?"
I hope so. I am a man so I think my answer would be biased. I think women can answer this question better.
Muhammed : Why would women be able to answer that question better?
If you look them both who looks modest.
Also judge who attracts evils eye considering media vulgarism and attractive feminine body shapes corrupting a man's mind for extramarital relation
BEAUTIFUL ,,,,,GIRL WITH HIJAB ,,,,I OWN MYSELF,,I AM MY OWN BEAUTY...IT IS
SPIRTUAL FREEDOM FOR ME''
I grew up in Egypt and understand very well the "between the lines" of those two young Lebanese girls ... they both struggle with their own identities as "Arab" live in USA with culture that never stepped up to presents its own women to the international communities ... we all should fight "Hijab" ...this "Idol" that stands for "Fear" and has been dominating this backward culture for over 1400 centuries ... today is the time give birth to your "brain" or never!
may God bless the hijabi.she is obeying commandment of God Almighty. in surah noor.
How can the hijab be anything other than a pure tool of oppression when only women and never men are forced to wear it?
That cultural/family-related victims of oppression often defend their oppressors is well understood in psychiatry and not an excuse for the oppression.
Well I guess I'll add my 2 cents worth to this:
1. I find the whole head scarf thing quite stylish if a little impractical in a warm climate
2.I find the Ned Kelly Burqa look rather depressing and repressive and I'm at a loss to understand why anyone in their right mind would wear one without significant coercion unless they're planning a criminal act. Note my exact words her so as not to draw the wrong conclusions as to what I'm saying.
3. Humans are social animals that tend to follow social norms with the people/circles they identify with. Therefore there is a strong suggestion that willingly wearing clothes or adopting appearance that identifies you in a certain way is really reflecting your position on things. Have a think about it. Again please carefully read my words so as to correctly understand what I'm saying.
All of this is a perspective and an understanding based on known behavioural links to personality, not a declaration that for example all Burqa wearer are criminals or such tripe.
why they argue abt hijaab is becoz they wear only a piece of cloth on their head with pair of tight jeans and tshirts which definetly does not make any difference between women wearing it or not wearing it,,,,so better to take it offf because it looks like a custom instead of necessity of wearing ,,,like wearing a head gear....what hijaab truly means is covering ur whole body with a loose garment from head to toe and sometimes due to environmentt around u must cover ur face as well so u may be saved from harassments....i live in india and here non muslim girls cover their faces even in night when they go out...just becoz of harassment they face everyday.
what do u mean
I love how the camera focused on the non hijabi everytime the hijabi talks PROUDLY about her hijab catching her reactions ! ;))
Look at those Tits!!!!
Lord have mercy bro, from this day forth. "You are my brother" (lol).
Five hails to you. (lol)
You got it bro, you.. got it.
me too :D
FATIMA W
Men have a tendency to undress women with their eyes. The more a woman is covered up the more she is mentally undressed by men.
I wear to please my Lord ALLAH. Yes I am Hijabi by my choice and proud of it.
So whose pleasure are you seeking for? Think over it.....
A WOMAN'S DILEMMA
I wear the hijab for fashion - Islam is my passion.
Vanity knows no pain - Is Islam full of restrains
Who should I blame for this state of dilemma
I know that I have a brain but they say I have gone insane
When for the sake of fashion I take off my hijab & abaya.
Its not mandatory but I still choose to wear it, is it wrong?
Wear it proudly😊
hijab is a beautiful gift for women
ali raja : Should gifts be forced on people?
Smithpolly in Quran it said not to force things on others and that includes women the women aren't forced but if some are wearing it and not believe in it that is mostly because they feel that they would be socially accepted wearing it as women. Even in Saudi Arabia many women just wear the Abaya and not their hijab because they think that they are "too young"
It would help a lot if well educated and self confident ladies as these two would speak more often like this. Still I do not understand why women voluntarily wear a headscarf if not to protect against the climate, and why men who can't resist the beauty of women don't simply stay at home or wear a blindfold, and what all this has to do with god or religion, not to speak about real spirituality. For me it's simply patriachrism, certainly one of the biggest issues on this planet.
But it's good to see that all kind of social repression (religion, beauty cult, ...) does not hold back such great women on their way to more freedom and influence in the society and the world - as the world needs educated, open minded and powerful women.
Maira Frisch you are female and the way you look at female is 100% not like male look to female , we all human we can not deinying our sexual desire but we can bring them under control and respect each other as human don't not judge me on your understanding , hijab message to men to male am not sexual object am the twins of you ! I don't know what to say but male mind totally different from you ladies but there are good right mind men
The hijab is not only a headscarf, to adhere to it appropriately is to refrain from sexual indecency, to allow a man to look at you with respect and not mere sexual desire. Hijab means barrier, a barrier from evil doings, something that reminds us of our lord almighty as he is the one to tell us to wear it, not men. I myself was not told by any man to wear it, I choose to wear because my lord tells me to wear, its not simply for the men, its me telling my creator that I submit to him. Its a sign which binds me with all of my other muslim sisters in islam, when I walk past any of them, they smile at me, we knowling share an open secret. I cannot express in any words my love for the hijab, men and women alike respect me so much more when i have it on. My hijab gives me honor, makes me feel secure and I wouldn't take it off for all that is on the earth. Now please don't tell me about the women in afghanistan or saudi who are oppressed by it, because that isn't the hijab, or the religion, it is the men that claim to follow that religion, and in its name they commit atrocities that are against the same religion they claim to follow.
Quran, chapter 2 verse 256: "There is no complusion in religion"
hope you get what I mean, don't mean to offend, just clearing up misconceptions. peace and love sister :)
Noreen Khan Your reply sounds reasonable and reflected to me, though I don't share your concepts and still feel you worship a patriarchic god / religious cult, originating in patriarchic thinking. I don't believe that a visible symbol is needed (which also limits the freedom of action of only women again), and which is pretty exclusive. Everyone should restrain herself/himself from doing evil by her/his heart's decision, with or without gods or veils or whatever concept or symbol. I think I understand what you mean, but your hijab cult still belongs to the realm of thought, emotions and outwardness, doesn't it? Likewise the whole discussion about hijabs and other outwardness is driven by our egos and we should simply give it up. Peace, sister.
God created man like that. every man gets attracted to women and have must lesser self control then men.
Adnan Ahmed men shall train themselves in self-control. That's clearly gods will ;).
How come i see two small hijab
Your hijab is not an obstacle, indeed. 👏👏.. The hijab is not a limitation. They spoke beautifully.
its ok till u cover the head but once you cover your face it becomes suspicious because your face is the simplest way to recognise you and if you choose to cover it up it naturally makes people to think that u have something to hide or u have committed something sinful that requires you to hide your identity from the world.
Hemanko Kashyap until you are a woman & try both covering the face & not covering it you can't tell the difference.
I grow up covering my face & I uncovered it for few months then I was back to cover my face again. It feels so free.. ❤️ I can't describe it.
I assume you recommend that men try covering their faces too. It's hardly fair that only women experience this indescribable freedom.
i m sorry i didnt get u what do u feel free covering ur face or not covering ur face?
no i don't recommend men to cover their faces rather i sayin nobody should hide their identity by covering their face, because firstly it makes u look shady and if that's not enough it reduces the importance of ur identity by hiding it from the world.And i dont have to recommend men to cover their faces they do it already while robbing banks or comitting other crimes.
Hemanko Kashyap I told you.. Until you are a woman & try both.. With the Islamic background.. You won't get it. I can't describe it.
the hajib women is right
I thought these 2 are not Tedx material. Maybe i'm so used to better speakers at Tedx and i have higher expectation based on my experience.
Simple question, will u throw u r hijab if u think that did not make sense?
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]
With regard to the Ahaadeeth:
1 - It was narrated from Safiyyah bint Shaybah that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) used to say: When these words were revealed - “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” - they took their izaars (a kind of garment) and tore them from the edges and covered their faces with them.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4481. The following version was narrated by Abu Dawood (4102):
May Allaah have mercy on the Muhaajir women. When Allaah revealed the words “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)”, they tore the thickest of their aprons (a kind of garment) and covered their faces with them.
Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Baari: There is a report of Ibn Abi Haatim via ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Uthmaan ibn Khaytham from Safiyyah that explains that. This report says: We mentioned the women of Quraysh and their virtues in the presence of ‘Aa’ishah and she said: “The women of Quraysh are good, but by Allaah I have never seen any better than the women of the Ansaar, or any who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. When Soorat al-Noor was revealed - “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” - their menfolk came to them and recited to them what had been revealed, and there was not one woman among them who did not go to her apron, and the following morning they prayed wrapped up as if there were crows on their heads. It was also narrated clearly in the report of al-Bukhaari narrated above, where we see ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who was so knowledgeable and pious, praising them in this manner and stating that she had never seen any women who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. This clearly indicates that they understood from this verse - “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” - that it was obligatory to cover their faces and that this stemmed from their belief in the Book of Allaah and their faith in the Revelation. It also indicates that women’s observing hijab in front of men and covering their faces is an act of belief in the Book of Allaah and faith in the Revelation. It is very strange indeed that some of those who claim to have knowledge say that there is nothing in the Qur’aan or Sunnah that says that women have to cover their faces in front of non-mahram men, even though the Sahaabi women did that in obedience to the command of Allaah in His Book, out of faith in the Revelation, and that this meaning is also firmly entrenched in the Sunnah, as in the report from al-Bukhaari quoted above. This is among the strongest evidence that all Muslim women are obliged to observe hijab.
Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 6/594-595.
2 - It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to go out at night to al-Manaasi’ (well known places in the direction of al-Baqee’) to relieve themselves and ‘Umar used to say to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let your wives be veiled.” But the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do that. Then one night Sawdah bint Zam’ah, the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), went out at ‘Isha’ time and she was a tall woman. ‘Umar called out to her: “We have recognized you, O Sawdah!” hoping that hijab would be revealed, then Allaah revealed the verse of hijab.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 146; Muslim, 2170.
3 - It was narrated from Ibn Shihaab that Anas said: I am the most knowledgeable of people about hijab. Ubayy ibn Ka’b used to ask me about it. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married Zaynab bint Jahsh, whom he married in Madeenah, he invited the people to a meal after the sun had risen. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sat down and some men sat around him after the people had left, until the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and walked a while, and I walked with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment. Then he thought that they had left so he went back and I went back with him, and they were still sitting there. He went back again, and I went with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment, then he came back and I came back with him, and they had left. Then he drew a curtain between me and him, and the verse of hijab was revealed.
Al-Bukhaari, 5149; Muslim, 1428.
4 - It was narrated from ‘Urwah that ‘Aa’ishah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray Fajr and the believing women would attend (the prayer) with him, wrapped in their aprons, then they would go back to their houses and no one would recognize them.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 365; Muslim, 645.
5 - It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (S) in ihraam, and when they drew near to us we would lower our jilbabs from our heads over our faces, then when they had passed we would uncover them again.
Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1833; Ibn Maajah, 2935; classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah (4,203) and by al-Albaani in Kitaab Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.
6 - It was narrated that Asma’ bint Abi Bakr said: We used to cover our faces in front of men.
Narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah, 4/203; al-Haakim, 1/624. He classed it as saheeh and al-Dhahabi agreed with him. It was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.
7 - It was narrated that ‘Aasim al-Ahwaal said: We used to enter upon Hafsah bint Sireen who had put her jilbab thus and covered her face with it, and we would say to her: May Allaah have mercy on you. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment” [al-Noor 24:60]. And she would say to us: What comes after that? We would say: “But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them”. And she would say: That is confirming the idea of hijab.
Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 7/93.
justice peace hadiths are fake and the extra stuff in surat al ahzab has been added
justice peace also the verse was sent down on the prophet(saw) after women went out for their natural needs at night and got annoyed by hypocrites
justice peace so women were advised to wear veils till the place was cleared and made safe
Mencado : So in other words, the Quran didn't come from a God.