Its truly the moment where Kratos becomes a new man. He was changing throughout the game, but that was the moment where he really said to himself "Enough is enough."
Among Baldur's final words, "You could've walked away", was an echoed sentiment Baldur himself could've done. His curse was lifted and he could've lived his life to the fullest now, even reforge a relationship with his mother. But he chose to to pursue a now pointless vengeance and forced Kratos to uphold his oath of debt to Freya by saving her life. Baldur's prophesied needless death was one of his own making.
Gotta love the fact Freya tried to taunt Kratos with the truth about his past only for him to reveal it all in a touching father-son moment that even left Freya touched and speachless
Fauxpikachu Of course you'd be speechless cuz the guy u just threatened is actually the Ghost of Sparta that marched through olympus killing everyone good or bad lmao. that's why she just shut her filthy ass mouth.
I mean, it is kinda stunning. Kratos's legend is as a ruiner of gods and things touched by gods. He has shown not an ounce of care or empathy towards anything before ripping it in half, he's killed his own flesh and blood multiple times, and his rage, pride, and self-righteousness has proven insurmountable. Even then, he wears the shame of his former self pretty plainly throughout this game. The last thing i would expect out of Kratos, past or present day, would be owning up to his son what he's done and telling Atrius that what he did, and what Baldur attempted, was wrong. He's not trying to destroy something by doing this, as expected of "The Ghost of Sparta" or "The God of War", he's trying to cultivate peace. Pretty wild move for someone who nearly ended the world with his quest for vengeance.
Cowardly Lion But Freya has one trump card, and that is the fact that Kratos eventually knows she’s the real Queen of the Valkyries who betrayed the other nine.
"You robbed me of everything!" No, you robbed Baldur of everything. Kratos was the first and only to show Baldur true mercy and grant his one, deepest wish.
Notice the difference. Zeus says "The cycle ends here. You will never be the ruler of Olympus." Zeus didn't care about the evil of the cycle, only about whether or not it affected him personally. Kratos on the other hand says "The cycle ends here. We must be better than this." Kratos is actually concerned about the evil of the cycle itself, not just wanting to prevent it from making him suffer personally. Kratos actually wants to break the cycle, and be something better than what came before. This is the reason why Kratos quoting Zeus isn't just for show, it means that Kratos learned a valuable lesson that Zeus never did.
The moment kratos saw the writing saying “for when gods are good” he switched to his way of thinking believing there needs to be a perfound change and more than likely doesn’t see himself as part of this world he will help his son create
I think you've got the right conclusion for the wrong reason. I don't think he's thought it through to that level. My own interpretation was that he simply wanted Atreus to avoid the same life of constant war and pain he himself lived through. Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant and we're actually on the same page, but this was my take.
@@aliciagrayson4203 yeah thats what I mean I think he just realized he can’t let gods keeping doing this becuase it’s not the world he wants for his son and it’s also his sons goal to make gods good people
@@aliciagrayson4203 It's more than that. He wants a better life for Atreus, yes, but he also wants Atreus to learn from the mistakes he made and be a better man, a better God, than he was. He doesn't want his son to inherit his rage (which, unfortunately, it seems he has) or his tendencies for destruction and wholesale slaughter. That is what Kratos fears more than anything, perhaps even the *only* thing he fears, his son becoming the same monster he is, or worse. To quote Yoda: "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all Masters." And that's Kratos's duty as a father, to make sure his son grows to be a better man than he, to learn from his fathers failures and not repeat the mistakes he made.
@@Bshaqisopr That was over a thousand years ago and people are allowed to change for the better. Besides he even has a new voice actor *PROOF* he's a new man.
“I will rain down every agony” Kratos was tricked into killing his own wife and daughter then covered in their ashes and as revenge he killed the entire Greek pantheon, you can’t do shit to Kratos.
Ballivares O I disagree Kratos killed Baldur to prevent him from ending up like he did. That's why he mentioned "ending the cycle" and earlier tried to reason with Baldur that killing his mother wouldn't help him.
Legend of Link none of this would happen if the gods of olympus erased his nightmare memories that haunts him. Ares tricked Kratos into murdering his wife & daughter, then the gods said they couldn't forget the terrible deeds he had done. the gods played him, so they deserve his wrath to olympus
Nah, most Olympians betrayed Kratos, and not only them but Gaia as well. Not saying Kratos didn't overdo it with the whole "vengeance" thing, but the fault was bigger than just two gods
After being into the depths of Hades TWICE, in Hel once and killed an entire pantheon, you can bet you can't just have Kratos with threats and call-outs.
There are a lot of things far worse than killing Zeus in his past. Hell, he didn't even mention his family! He is afraid of Atreus becoming like him so in order to influence his son he wants and needs to look like a good guy, that way Atreus will follow his advices and won't lose hope.
@@Haki145 but as it turns out maybe showing Atreus that his father isn't or hasn't always been the good guy and has made a lot of mistakes in his youth may just show Atreus that his father knows what he's talking about. while also showing Atreus that if Kratos can at least attempt to be better then Atreus isn't doomed to the same mistakes.
@@emoteen011 that is true but, Kratos does not want his son to ever look up to the man he hates the most. Kratos hates himself more than anyone else and this can be reflected throughout the whole series.
I love how, when he says, "I killed many who were deserving." His eyes tighten up with anger, possibly thinking about his past with the Greek Gods, what they did, and how badly he wanted to kill them. But then, he stops for a moment, thinking about all the innocent people that died as a cause of his war with the gods and himself, and how many lives he took, wether directly or indirectly, and then you see his eyes change, being remorseful of everything he's done. And then says, "And many who were not." The attention to detail and emotional weight in his eyes...on just one scene... It's amazing
From many comments, it's apparent Freya is somewhat misunderstood. First, it's useful to know that in the actual mythology, Baldr is a truly benevolent god (much moreso than Odin and Thor), beautiful of countenance and beloved by nearly everyone. In this game's story-verse, it's implied that Baldr _used_ to be this way, before his cursed invulnerability drove him to madness and hate. And Freya cannot forget how he used to be. In her mind, he will always be her pure, innocent son. Second, is the precise reason Freya used her magic to make Baldr invulnerable -- it wasn't only out of misguided love, it was also explicitly an attempt to prevent Ragnarok, as it was prophecied that Baldr's death would be the tipped domino which leads to it. Freya is just as afraid of Ragnarok as Odin, as the event kills most of the Vanir gods, too (her family, in Vanaheim). The gods own actions ironically creating the outcome they were specifically trying to prevent is a common theme of Norse mythology, and the Ragnarok story arc in particular. The Norse were a fatalistic people by nature, and their stories reflect that.
Same sort of thing as in Ascension: there was some sort of prophesy about the God of War taking olympus, and Ares planned to use Kratos as his weapon to take olympus for himself, but kratos ending up killing Ares, becoming the god of war, and taking olympus himself. Or something like that, I'm fuzzy on the details. "No, you can't kill ares! The god of war must take the throne" or something like that.
@@hamishwalker9637 Apparently many of the Vanir are still alive (in this story-universe), specifically thanks to Freya marrying Odin as a political arrangement, thus ending the war between the Vanir and Aesir. The first game was vague on what's happened with Vanir-Aesir relations after Odin and Freya separated, but the fact that Freya effectively remains a political hostage in Midgard suggests the truce holds.
Well also experience because Zeus had to enslave his own father, a former titan that's why Zeus said that cycle ends there. But freya could always bring back baldur with some ancient magic or baldur could escape hell like kratos did.
@@joserubenmendoza9570 if you go back to freya's house mimir will say that while he was brought back by Freya he's still very much dead and just slowly deteriorating and that's just his head. Mimir also voices how freya wouldn't want to bring back baldur so he could suffer with his undead body.
I feel like Kratos said it because he realized Zeus was right. Kratos and Zeus were simple links in a long chain of selfish, vengeful, devastating patricide. Zeus was just wrong about how to break the cycle
Well, you could say they're both responses of fear: Zeus feared that Kratos would threaten his position as the king of olympus if he didn't act. Kratos feared Baldur would turn out like the spartan's past self if he didn't act.
I'd choose my words carefully Freya. a number of Gods have made similar threats to Kratos. and they're all dead now, don't go throwing away the life he saved.
Wolfgang Trixl actually he's a changed person in this game. The whole point was seeing how Kratos was able to control the rage he couldn't back in the first three games.
Doesn't change the fact that he is weak af in this game and that is what kind of takes away the essence of god of war. Still a great game, but I wish it was more brutal and satisfying. I mean to just snap Baldurs neck in the end after he had annoyed you for the whole game is just unsatisfying and frustrating for a god of war game. The only satisfying kill in the whole game is in my opinion the one where you kill the dragon.
Dontae N Jones That's why after Kratos revealed that he is the Ghost of Sparta, Freya didn't say a word and just walked away lmao. Yes, Freya. U just threatened the godkiller lmao u fucked up big time.
Josh R No, but even Mimir directly calls Kratos the "Ghost of Sparta", though granted, Mimir knows everything. I would almost suspect Freya to have at least heard the rumors of the Greek godkiller.
Freya can't harm anything anyway. But she can run back to Odin and with a common enemy with such power Odin may lift the curse on her. If that's the case she'll make for an insane enemy since she's the goddess of beauty and magic.
Leon Korno Do you know who Kratos is? No matter what happens, he always comes out on top. Thor, Freya and any other God would be best to just leave him alone before he erase them like he did the Greek ones
Leon Korno he killed all of the Greek gods to ever exist. He will do the same to the norse gods if he has to. He is stronger than all gods. Even odin himself
Punish. Demolish. Torture. Stab Do whatever you want to Kratos. Any power they can use. Kratos can still take those god hits like a champ and still bash the heads of gods like they're nothing.
"Is this what it is to be a God?." That was so powerful to me the first time hearing it. Every story, every mythology, any whatever with Godly beings is always always filled with tragedy. Almost as if they are hand in hand with each other.
This is what makes Polytheisms engaging and relevant; they are tragedies with no conclusion, in which the Rulers of the Universe are equally as flawed as humans. By acknowledging this, we can take their example; both in what should, and should NOT, be done. The Gods are timeless and unchanging, and their existence is not a happy one. But we can perhaps make something today that was slightly better than all our Yesterdays.
@@kami7674 My guy youre not even respectful of other people’s beliefs and quite dismissive about it. Maybe that tells you more about how much you can still grow
Untrue baldur was to survive passed the events ragnorak as well as magni and modi that's why modi was like "WHAT!!" when you kill bis brother cause according to prophecy they live passed ragnorak maybe he knew about what the snow signaled but thatd be it cause to his knowledge they weren't supposed die (sorry for the poor spelling)
Literally as a mother and because she's cursed and unable to harm anyone Isn't she? I heard things- I haven't watched tooooo much of this God of war game.
The best part is after the scene altogether, it’s when Kratos says he would let Atreus kill him if it meant Atreus would survive. Kratos made that choice to kill Baldur, save Freya and stop a cycle of parentcide because Baldur wasn’t his son. He saw the pattern on another family and decided to end that. But in the end not even Kratos could make that choice if it was between him and Atreus, he would do the same as Freya. This is hands down one of the best sequences in videogame history, the acting from every actor is top notch (Kratos’ monologue, Atreus’ questioning and Freya’s cursing were full of emotion, specially the “You robbed me of everything”) and the writing has so much depth. Bravo, Santa Monica.
@@nathandias6771 Well the difference is that Freya obsessed over her son and took away everything from him. He was nothing but a husk who couldn't die or feel literally anything. Kratos wouldn't subject Atreus to a horrible life full of agony. He understands that he wouldn't be able to kill his son either, but he also understands that he's not going to be the reason why it comes to that, unlike both Zeus and Freya.
@@nathandias6771 I was a bit confused by that scene although I loved everything else about it. Kratos ends others' cycle, he sees himself in them. I didn't understand why he intervened, it was their problem. Did he see himself in Baldur? Did he think he'd go on a rampage against the gods?
3:27 You actually see his expression change as he mentions the many deserving and the many undeserving. To think we're in an age of video games where a subtle change in a face or a gaze can be conveyed with computer graphics! Im guessing within the next generation, when the people to grow up without video games passes away, we are gonna see video games get recognized as art at the same level as movies, theatre and music
@@Shockguey at which point did you say "art community"? You said "the people you are trying to appeal to" which I pretty much think means the general public. No need to get angry
"And feed your soul to the vilest filth in Hel!" Kratos: ok im gonna have to stop you right there because I already went in there and come out...... *twice*
This is one of my favorite scenes, because you know Freya is both angry and terrified. She looks at Kratos and first sees her sons killer: then, after all her threats, Kratos brushes it away and says that he, a god, killed his father. The gods parents are normally much stronger than the child, as Zeus technically was stronger than Kratos, and in that moment Freya knew: no matter what threats she threw, no matter what she did, she couldn’t scare him. He had literally stared death in the face countless times and won in the staring contest. He had killed the Greek god of death. He was not a full god, but the lengths he could go to, his pure skill, and his sheer power were unmatched by any that she had seen. I feel that this was the first time that Freya stopped seeing Kratos, the lying god of a father, and began seeing Kratos, the most powerful and threatening being in all the realms
Damn, missed opportunity to say "Freya stopped seeing Kratos, the lying god of a father, and began seeing Kratos, the Ghost of Sparta and the God of War".
Don't forget that the first god in GoW3 Kratos kills was POSEIDON. FUCKING *POSEIDON.* The second strongest god in greek mithology. At that point it was clear the other gods had no chance. Also if Athena didn't step in in the final fight against Zeus in GoW2, Zeus would've probably died. Not even Kratos could kill Kratos, too.
@@comradethegreat3599 Zeus can't die just by the blade alone. He fucking brings his soul or whatever that is back to his body when Kratos stabbed him. 😂 The flame of olympus is the only thing atleast in this game can kill Zeus.
"You could have walked away" Exactly. He could have walked away, like his father Zeus did. Instead, Kratos killed Baldur on the spot, to make sure he doesn't come back. *From the mistakes of the fathers, we learn to not repeat history*
TheBadassTonberry he climbed out from the underworld trough sheer force of will so I’m sure he’ll be fine in Hel, for the few minutes he stays there that is, Man I hope that there will be a sequel to this game.
He will be busy fighting Zeus for the lulz and have some bonding time... Atreus finds him midway and he goes"I'm talking with your grandfather, boi..."
That "Then you don't know me" it's more powerful than what it seems, Kratos knew he was an horrible person the whole journey, he didn't consider himself enough of a good person to call Atreus his son, even tho he loves him with every bit of his soul, is at this point of the trip that Kratos realizes that he can change, that he did change, that he can be better. And that's why he is able to say "then you don't know me" he finally internalizes that he is doesn't have to be defined by his past actions, or the past actions of others
Freya: "I will rain down every agony, every violation imaginable, upon you. I will parade your cold body, from every corner, of every realm, and feed your soul to the vilest filth in Hel. That is my promise!" Kratos "Lol k."
@@megakid6350 Kratos: I'm sorry Freya I'm gonna have to stop you riiiiiight there. Ya see I killed the Greek gods including my Dad and Brother (who was a total dick by the way) and also murdered my uncle's as well as Hepheastus. I was even bribed, imagine that
That hug at the end of the video is actually kind of nice. The fact that Freya walked away without another word spoken show that she was probably surprised by the actual earnestness in his words, also she got off incredibly light comparatively because remember Kratos at his worst could annihilate an entire civilization, just ask the Greeks oh wait they're dead nevermind.
Ummm, we never got confirmation on that. Greece is definately in ruins, but I don't think everyone is dead. A few gods are still alive since they stayed out of Kratos' way.
Box Tank! Killing Freya isn't a line Kratos will cross yet especially seeing how she has helped him and his son so much. However also consider if I'm mistaken Freya is also vanir meaning in the upcoming war against Odin and the Aesir she is technically a ally or could be
*Crazy how in 2018, the damn in-game graphics for God of War PS4 looks better than pre-rendered cutscenes from back in the day. Tech has come a longgggggggggg way.*
@@nightraven2975 They are actually identical because games like Uncharted 4 and God of War today use only cutscenes rendered in real time with the game engine. The only difference is that during the cutscene, more detail from the textures and assets will be revealed because PS4 can direct all its resources to that scene at that moment.
2:49 the way Kratos responds shows how much he’s changed. Whereas before he would argue or try to kill someone for saying that, now he just says “then you do not know me”
not really. lets take hera as an example. she did call him a monster, she told him he destroys everything and he ignored her. he killed her when she called pandora something... really bad :)
@@emperrorpalpatine164 kratos used to be much more direct over things, overall taunts didn't provoke him much but talk about the people he knew and he would be brutal, like how he jumped Zeus when he said "don't fail pandora like you failed your family", he didn't care about being called pathetic or weak but remembering him about how he the gods allowed those disagraces to happen is enough to let him go loose now you see various times a mix of shame and regret over much of his past followed by honesty to his son
@@lucky6961 yes, I know... However the new games failed miserably to "fix" him, as there was nothing to fix. There was nothing wrong with kratos to begin with, revenge was common in ancient times. And just like now he only kills those that get in his way. None else.
@@johnnyboy3410 only thing that would have changed would be that she wouldnt see her son die. baldur would still die because he would go after odin or kratos after he killed her. nothing really changes. freya would just die a needless death and she is more valuable to the world than baldur is.
@@justarandompepe8961 if Baldur goes after Odin he wouldn’t die, Odin will have Thor break his face and lock him up as Baldur’s death is the first sign of Ragnarok, he wouldn’t go after Kratos because he has no reasons
Same words but completely different. In the past they killed to save themselves. This time Kratos killed to save another. Time has changed him for the better.
he directly quotes him because zeus mentions the "cycle", Zeus and kratos are talking about the cycle of sons killing their parents. kratos saying what he said can be a reference to what Zeus told him in GOW2. In many mythologies Sons killing their parents is common as hell lol
I love how Baldur reflects everything Kratos was. A vengeful monster, hellbent on killing their parent. Even in form it’s apparent. Baldur is short, has more tattoos, which are blue, and has tan skin, whereas Kratos is... well you know. Only difference is that Kratos has finally learned, and he didn’t want Baldur to follow in his footsteps
It's not that he didn't want Baldur to follow in his footstep. He doesn't care about Baldur. It's just that he doesn't want to see his son do the same thing and he is showing him that this is wrong.
@@Kenny-sl6hb I disagree he tried to talk baldur off many times and tell him vengeance is not the way i feel like he tried to teach him but once he saw at the very end even when he spared him that he would still try to kill her he then stopped caring.
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013 But god of war 1 and prior (in the timeline) was kratos post-wife and daughter killed. Hell in the first game he killed the captain of the ship for a key to his cabin. He had regrets even then and shown it sure but regrets =/= wisdom, if that was the case kratos would have thought twice about killing poseidon and flooding all of the greek world. Kratos was just as mindless as he was in the series before gow 2018, difference is before gow 2. Kratos just wanted to kill ares after orkos was killed, showing the spartans actions that ares deceived him into doing. While gow 2 just made him not care for the gods and was willing to kill whoever stood in his way if it was preventing him from ending zeus. To kratos they were just, but to zeus and the gods kratos was the end of both olympus and greek world itself.
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013 I'm not saying he wasn't, all I'm saying is the comparison to kratos pre-gow2 (at best) is a bit of a stretch to say he's similar to gow 2018 (excluding maybe ascension and ghost of sparta where he could at least reflect and be somewhat conscious of who he hurt). Kratos never thought, he act unlike the kratos we see.
Yeah, so the part where she declared that made me laugh a bit. She is unable to leave Midgard and is unable to harm anything, unless via proxy (like using the frost giant or summoning enemies in the fight with Baldur).
It doesn't matter.. i bet even if she would be released from her curse, spell or whatever , kratos would still find a way to destroy her. That's what he does.
Leroy Jenkins actually, that's only Kratos's wife, Faye's prediction. We never know what will really happen in the future, maybe Atreus will found out eventually about the propecised death and tried to find ways to save him? We will never know. As Kratos quotes at the end, "Her predictions still stands true to this point". Meaning that he, himself was not so sure about her wife's predictions, and anything could happen.
accoeding the game's myths Brok died from spider bite while forging the leviathan axe, Sentri then brought him to eifheim where he caught Brok's wisp from the river of soul and revived him, he then kept that story to himself. even though Freya can't leave midgard, the rest of the aesir can
zilia hui more like you'll pass down the torch now it's up to a trailers to destroy the the Norse gods like his father did to the Greek gods but I think he won't kill off cradles just yet not until he fights with Odin or Thor
If Kratos has a word in the saying, no. Maybe HE will cause Ragnarok while protecting his son from the norse god's wrath. If Kratos would had killed Freya in that cutscene like he did with Hera in GOW 3, that would have been a jaw dropping moment.
LEGEND 25 Freya is kind of a hypocrite here she took away her sons ability to feel anything yes he was invulnerable but the cost destroyed him mentally in short Freya killed her son long before Kratos did
There may be other reasons. Nordic mythology holds that Ragnarok begins when Baldur dies. Remember when Atreus asks Freya if she believes in Ragnarok, and she says “I dearly wish I didn’t, child.” Her weaving the spell on Baldur May have also been an attempt to prevent the apocalypse.
@@devontejefferson6520 Exactly. Freya robbed HERSELF of everything. She has no one to blame but herself for her son's death. What Kratos killed wasn't her son, but a heartless, ugly monster broken beyond all repair.
@@adamzabielski3685 she still just watched her son die, the only thing she still cared about after Odin destroyed most of her life. I give her a pass for being over protective and being angry, i really liked her throughout the game ^.^
I like how as Kratos says "I killed many who were deserving..." his eyebrows angle down, furrowing, but once he says "and many who were not." His eyebrows go back, as if he calms himself down.
I love how the line is echoed with different meaning. When Zeus said it, he was protecting his own power out of fear of being other thrown like he did his own father, Cronos. It was for self-serving reasons. When Kratos said it, it was a call for the gods to start treating those they care about with respect and stop fucking each other over for selfish, petty reasons.
On certain perspective, he is just an innocent boy who grew up unable to feel anything so bad that it corrupted him to lose the sense of right and wrong. At least he felt the thrill of the fight and felt alive again thanks to kratos. Pretty sure kratos granted him a peaceful death rather than an empty life of vengeance. If only he didnt choose the path of vengeance.
"The hands of death could not defeat him, the sisters of fate could not control him, and on this day... the man, the legend, Kratos... would have his revenge." Who does Freya think she is? Old Kratos would've snuffed her in a minute, I can practically hear it now, "YOU THINK ME A COWARD, WITCH? DO AS YOU PLEASE AND FALL JUST AS ALL WHO HAVE GOTTEN IN MY WAY."
Fun that, now with Ragnarok, Kratos quoted both Zeus and Faye with that line. "The cycle ends here" from when Zeus killed him back 2, then Faye says "We must be better than this" in the baby atreus flashback/dream in Ragnarok. Love that detail
Connor Mac also it would fit with the prophecy of Ragnarok. If Atreus looses his father he will most likely want to revenge him. And since Loki In ragnarok will lead the Jotnar into battle against the Aesir it would make sense
For me, Baldur's death will always be one of Kratos's most brutal kills, not for how graphic it is, but for how simplistic it is. And not to mention the extreme weight of consequences that his death carries. Man, I love this series.
Kratos was right. Odin would have forced to Baldur to go after Kratos and Atreus again anyway. Baldur was going to go through a cycle of vengeance just like Kratos and Kratos prevented it.
Freya please do remember that Odin cursed you to never fight again Even to defend yourself And here you are threading someone who held the title God of War and brutally slaughtered an entire pantheon of Gods who were more powerful than you in a single day So I’d choose my next course of action very carefully if I were you
@thatscheese27 Sigrun was the hardest boss battle made in God of War franchise, just imagine Freya with her Valkyrie wings and armour combined with her magic.
@@justin_hero9647 Game mechanic and boss battles are two very different thing. Also Narrative bosses are usually easy compare to OPTIONAL BOSSES. Even if Freya become a Valkyrie she will be very unlikely to be stronger than the Valkyrie Queen
@TheSherlockHokage Amd someone didnt get the point. Story mode bosses will ALWAYS be easier than OPTIONAL BOSSES. Beside I forgot the optional valkyrie queen's name anyway.
@@kris0375 Yeah, but lustin C was talking about game point. Without a doubt she will be stronger in the lore. BUT she won't be stronger than KRATOS, who killed a whole pantheon(his) along with all the stupidly powerful gods in it.
I love how when Kratos grabbed Baulder you can see the pain in his eyes, knowing that he has to do what comes next to protect Freya. And it was the outcome he was hoping to avoid.
@@theberserkerarmor6511 according to norse mythology, the death of Baldur would be the cause of a long winter. In game it does say otherwise but the game has be pretty faithful to the mythology so far.
Playing this the second time and hearing him say "hmm...snow" that shit made me tear up. You don't really pay attention the first time, you just go with the mindset that this is a bad guy, good guy beat bad guy and all that but when you actually slow down and pay attention you actually feel empathy towards a character, also a great way of knowing someone put effort in to the story. By far one of my favorite games.
Baldur with his curse cannot feel anything, even the cold and snow around him, but in his dying breath he finally felt cold and the snow touching his body.
This scene makes me cry. Would you let your son kill you if it would mean that he is finally happy? Freya would. I would. You would, if you love your children. Idk if what Kratos did was the right thing, but I know for sure, in Freya's world, he did the worst thing imaginable. The voice acting in this game is absolutely brilliant.
Baldur killing Freya would only temporarily make him happy. Kratos killed Baldur in order to spare him from the despair that would soon take hold of him, as it once did Kratos. He's been down that path and knows the only solution is to kill Baldur out of Mercy. Freya is too blind to see that, what Kratos did, was the only logical choice, as Baldur was beyond the point of reason. Freya always tried to delay the prophecy but ended up making things worse for Baldur. She told Kratos that ultimately she did everything for her self and didn't realize until Baldur was alienated, but letting him kill her is taking the easy way out, and doing the exact same thing, as she will be dead without having the guilt and Baldur will (presumably) be happy. But, as we have seen through Kratos and Zeus, that would not be the case, as despair, self-blame, anger, hopelessness, etc. would take hold of him and make his life if not more, as miserable as it was before.
the paradox though. she loves him so much but she stays totally deaf to his wish to feel. she doesn’t care his happiness but she would die for his life. twisted mother
There is consequences to killing a god when Kratos massacred every god Greece was essentially destroyed killing Baldur starts the end of days sure but the destruction that would be caused by Killing Freya could have so many effects on Midgard it's absurd.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Freya was acting in emotion at the moment. But hearing Kratos saying to Atreus that they "must be better than God's that were before". It's still powerfull line. Atreus was teacher to Kratos how to be a human. Not God. A family killing curse was still present when Atreus went "I'm a God" thing. And Freya probably see this here. Kratos changed, let go of his must of control and what might happen to him and his son. Masterpiece at its finest. And something that families all over world can learn from 😭
It’s actually amazing that they expand the original mythology from what it is. Kronos killed his father Uranus to have the throne. Zeus then killed Kronos in return. And now, in GoW, they expand into Kratos killed Zeus and mirrored it into Baldur tried to kill his mother. Kratos has seen enough of this cycle. That’s why he wants it to end here, to have his son walking on a different path than his. And Kratos as well knew very well of Baldur which was why he killed him.
I had my mind blown by that when I was replaying GoW 2 (in preparation for GoW 2018 being on PC). Like, I had the sudden realization when I heard Zeus saying, "You will never rule Olympus. The Cycle ends here.". It was simply so smart from the writers, because it made Zeus' fear much more believable, and even more ironic, because the last thing Kratos had in mind was ruling Olympus.
Freya is the one who killed her son. She put that curse on him and refused to lift it. Knowing full well that he's life was complete torture after she put it on him. She rather her son live in agony of never knowing joy of *feeling* than fot him life to be in fates hands.
Jibbers and in the end it is PRECISELY the reason why ragnarok happens (game wise). Odin tricked baldur into finding and fighting kratos by telling him that faye could lift the curse.
Golden Challenger i could be wrong but that is how it looks to me. But it does seem strange for odin to send someone who is part of the ragnarok prophecy to bring back someone who kill an entire pantheon of gods. And the norse gods are depicted as very bloodthirsty in the game. Or he was trying to stop it and in doing so started it instead
Odin didn't want Ragnarok. Odin wanted Baldr to kill Kratos so they could wipe the godslayer out and keep Ragnarok from happening, because he's an outlier.
Zenith Tempest oh so basically the same dumbass move as zeus.... Goes to prevent prophesy, but set it in motion by the path they took to prevent it. Imho the easier way would have been to befreind kratos instead, because trying to kill him would make him fight/kill in self defense.
“The cycle ends here. we must be better” words are so powerful. changed the way I viewed my addiction and it’s cyclical nature. I am 7 months free, thank you Kratos ❤
Best Part of God of war 4 😍 Boy ... listen close i’m from a land called sparta i made a deal with a god that cost me my soul i killed many who were deserving and many who were not ..... i killed my father
he should have said that "i was a bit sassy back then so murdered an entire civilisaton by accident.. well you know i had family issues ... and we're kind of gods, and i kinda was a god of war....well that happened"
Best part for me Atreus: So I'm a man now, like you? Kratos: No, we are not man, we are more than that, the responsibility is far greater. And you must be better than me. Understand? Say it. Atreus: I will be better.
Player Zero, I agree, I think! I dont know which part is better: the part when Kratos gets the blades or that dialogue... The voice in "And you must be better than me. Understand? (...) The power... You must never forget this" was so good! Christopher Judge is a legend.
3:55 made me Realize that Even though Atreus shows resentment in how Kratos raised him, It show's he took the lessons at heart and understood Kratos' hatred for the gods.
Some people in the comments have mentioned too that this could also be him coming to a realization that snow is starting to fall, which means Fimbulwinter and then Ragnarok are both imminent. Later on even Mimir mentions that snow started to fall after Kratos killed Baldur, and that symbolizes the end of times.
According to the images in the Giants Cave Kratos dies in Atreus' arms, which more than likely kicks off his quest for vengeance against the Norse gods, in other words, Ragnarok. The cycle of child killing parent may end, but the cycle of vengeance will likely continue. They may not be in Greece anymore, but things are still playing out like a Greek tragedy.
Apart from the scene where he picked up the blade of chaos, this is one of the best scenes I can say. Never tired of watching it. The background music just on point. And this scene, it is like im watching a movie or series. The best game ever. Im not regret, not even a second, when i bought the collector edition of gow. Cant wait for next GOW!
"WhY wOuLd ShE tHrEaTeN kRaToS? LoOoOl" Kratos killed her son, and if you had half a brain you'd know that freya really loved her son. Ofc she'd be mad, what's she supposed to say? "Damn, guess I'll go home."
Yeah, but that's the response expected of most children. They only see Kratos as a badass god killer who could most certainly kill Freya. And Freya is the bad mom who drove her son mad. The finer nuances of the characters and story are lost on them. Despite the grievances Freya committed against her son, she did them out of love for him. She loved him too much. It was wrong what she did, and she is responsible, but her grief and anger are natural responses. I'd question her character if she didn't react the way she did. If she'd just said, "Well, guess that's that. I can make another one I guess," and went home after seeing her son killed, she'd had gone from a parent who made awful mistakes out of love for her child, to a terrible, evil mother who probably deserved to be killed by her son. Living with the fact she caused her child's demise is going to be a worse punishment than death. And she knows Kratos is right. You see that when she pauses to say something to him before she leaves, then just walks away.
Nooblitz 74 he didn't feel snow or atleast he didn't physically it was foreshadowing of the winter coming after this fight before ragnorak (atleast that's what I read)
well remember when they're at the land of giants. the wall foreshadowed the whole thing, from Bauldur and kratos fighting to bauldur's death. well after that, kratos sees a curtain not yet pulled down, so he decides to peak and what he finds is a picture that shows him dead laying on atreus.
2:54 "passing on your cruelty and rage, you'll never change" If only she knew, kratos has been holding back dramatically throughout this entire game. Kratos's cruelty and rage are things of legend 😂😂
I think a possible at least fan explanation for Kratos character change over time was how he defeated Zues and enraged Athena. Kratos released "hope" into the world. Maybe that release of that energy that was locked in pandora's box is what changed him to become more moral than thr blood thirsty warrior he was
What good would it do for kratos if he remains the same as he was in the previous story? Would the god that wanted to destroy zeus and avenge his family and people be good father? I don't think so... the reason he has changed is because he has no need to hold for what he was anymore. But unlike some people here i don't think kratos was some foolish monster that made unwise decisions that cost everyone horrible suffering. The gods did absolute horrendeous things to kratos, yet he is the one being called a monster. His family got murdered, his reign as ruler was stopped with the blood of every spartan because of zeus's paranoia... do you know why thought kratos is the one who always seems bad in the story? Because the gods live on olympus, they can just fly whenever they want and kill whoever they want without the unnecessary suffering of other people, unlike kratos... who needs to climb mounth olympus and go throught every obstacle that is trown at him. It's all emotional tactics, it's like someone murders your mother and father and in order to protect himself from your rage he grabs another random person and threatens to kill him too if you try to do anything to him. It's zeus that gave kratos this choice to kill so many of his people in the first place, because he didn't go toe to toe with kratos (even thought zeus is stronger) and face whatever kratos has prepared for him, but instead he hide untill the very possible end behind everything he could find usefull. All the suffering that happened was caused by the gods, not kratos, because they think they are invinsible and more than the ordinary mortal, even thought they didn't fight to become a god they were born that way... wich is the core of the incredible injustice itself. Even if kratos wanted in god of war 2 to give it all up and live peacefully how could he? The gods wouldn't allow him to live normal life, he would have to hide in some mountains living like he does in that game, with the simple difference that he knows the people that ruined his life, no, the gods that killed entire sparta in betrayl just because of zeus's paranoia and greed are living freely without having to face judgement. The sad truth is that the gods, especialy zeus were snobby, extremely smart, extremely powerful foes that would try everything in order to defeat kratos, including emotional tactics such as ''you're monster you killed that innocent person that kinda died because we killed your hole nation but you're the evil one'' and the sad truth is in order for kratos to beat them, avenge his people, clear his name, clean the earth from this inncredible evil, he had to give up on everything including empathy, sympathy and even if it costs him all the good left in him, the morals, he just had to kill this one horrible emperor/god called zeus, even if he needs to become a monster in order to do it. It's the gods that killed all these innocent people, not kratos... the sad truth is in order for kratos to defeat the gods he must not have any inhibitions, borders to what the path he has chosen might cause, but what realy is the alternative? It's not life... all this was caused by the power of the gods and their previledges, for example they could simply fly off olympus and do whatever they want, unlike kratos who has to go up the hard way and face whatever the gods have prepared for him. With kratos's abilities it was the only way, a guy who opens his heart for all the suffering and his own would have never beaten zeus in these circumstances, only a monster that closes his heart for all the suffering except his own and that of his family and his people. That is just how much kratos cared about justice, that is just how much kratos cared about the simple mortal chickens. It's all zeus's fault and all that blood is on the hands of zeus, kratos is the hero that sacraficed everything including his morals, character and who he would wish to be ( not murderer of innocent people) in order to give every mortal chance to live a free life free from the evils of the gods, the fear of being killed or controlled in some way by these ''unbeatable'' terrifying ''great'' gods. Kratos didn't just kill his father, he killed the biggest baddest monster that lived and reigned on earth and gave hope to everyone in the future, and he paid a great price for it...
TheOne Yeah but Kratos doesnt move on altruism. He wasnt killing gods because they were dicks to humans, he was killing them because a) vengeance or b) they were on his way. He didnt care about the consequences of his actions until the very very end. I mean , hell he killed poseidon and the sea rose to swallow a shiton of people. And thats one of many So no. He wasnt any different than the gods he was trying to kill, he didnt care just as much as they dont care. Kills Baldur, boom ragnarok.
so Ares wasn't dick to humans? Zeus wasn't dick to his people? Also how could he know that when he kills poseidon that would kill shit ton of people? And how do you expect him to kill zeus without having to deal with poseidon, since Zeus will use everything to his advantage. If Kratos left poseidon, in the end battle he would have to fight both poseidon and zeus, wich would mean his death. It's not kratos's fault these people died, it's zeus's fault, all they do is emotional tactics like i said. It's like zeus kills your people but you can't bring him justice because if you do you will cause even more death, because zeus has power and is a coward. Kratos was different, even thought he had so much power that's not what he wanted realy. in gow 1 and the beginning of gow 2 you can see that he wants to forget the death of his family, but the gods tricked him and did not grant him his wish instead they turn him into god of war that can be controlled in hope that would satisfy his needs, but if kratos could be a guy that is easily tricked he wouldn't be god of war to begin with, he started to dislike all the gods, zeus's paranoia led to horrible deeds including betrayl on kratos and kratos should just let him slip away just because he can't simply fly behind zeus and stab him in the back? Kratos had no choice but to kill everyone on olympus because the stake was too big, he can't just run away because even if they don't find him after like 50 years he will die and he will end up in hades's hands and suffer for unlimited amount of years, you are dead alot longer than you are alive... only a fool wouldn't kill someone as powerfull as poseidon that is ally to your greatest nemesis that in kratos's case is the king of all gods... kratos can just barely kill zeus with alot of luck involved, he can't risk fighting poseidon too at the same time, that wasn't as hard for the simple reason that he had titan at his side. Kratos is different, the circumstances were not in his favor thought... he had to make the necessary cacrafices otherwise he would suffer horrible torture for the rest of existence in the depths of hades while zeus haven't faces justice and continues to slaughter innocent people. Kratos was being manipulated all the time in god of war 1 untill gow 2, he gives up his humanity to avange his people, his family and show that even the gods can not always get away with betrayl. Only someone with atleast the same physical and the same psychological traits could do that and his inncredible fighting skills and so much luck and allies... he gave hope to the rest of earth to trully once and for all live freely, that's why he didn't give power to the titans too at the end. He trully wanted all people to be equal
You know, this is complete conjecture on my part and a total long shot, but I just realized that maybe Baldur's last word might be more meaningful than we think. He falls to the ground, staring with eyes wide into the middle distance as they pool with blood, and just says: "Snow..." Well, in the aftermath of the game after Kratos and Atreus spread Faye's ashes and return to Midgard from Jotunheim, Mimir warns them that: "the snowfall that *began when you slayed Baldur* has become something more, the stuff...of omens." And proceeds to tell them of Fimbulwinter being the first sign of imminent Ragnarok. Kratos even makes an incredulous remark about it. "Ragnarok. From snow?" to which Mimir replies: "Aye, snow. Then more snow. And then the end of the bloody world, in that exact order." Maybe, just maybe as Baldur lays there dying, drawing his last breath he has that same realization while witnessing the first snowflakes fall marking the end of days. Or maybe he just says "Snow..." because he's enraptured with feeling cold after 100 years of senselessness, just my rambling theories.
Well if you wanna get to the thivk of it remember the dark elf general you killed the one atreus claims said "youve mafe a grave mistake" you know how they were covering that font of light? That font of light you freed is the well of souls going to helheim ragnorrok begins with a flooding of souls that helheim cant hold the dark elves were trying to slow the start of ragnarok and you fucked that up didnt you
This isn't conjecture and you're not 'on to something'. Him saying snow and the snow beginning to fall as a symbol of the beginning of ragnarok is what you are supposed to tie together naturally. So congratulations on just not being a moron who can see blatant narrative.
I feel like when Atreus said 'so you'd let me kill you? and Kratos said yes it could have been linked to that prophecy with Kratos in Atreus's hands. I hope not tho.
Lunar Blade And you don't think that that line isn't tied with another of Atreus' lines "Can I turn into a wolf?" are tied to the prophecy? Foreshadowing of things to come, my friend...
This is the greatest game I have probably ever played and the ending just sets up for a story dlc or sequel. Kratos’s development is amazing to witness and since the game never cuts away you are right there from beginning to end. This is the step god of war took and I’m happy with it. Never have I loved a cast of characters more than in this game
It is god of war they could pull something grandiose to revive their power aside from that Kratos is the son of Zeus maybe he could reignite the weapon power by feeding it the blood of the Aesir gods and channeling his own divinity into it. The again the Smiths could forge a weapon that could rival Mjolnir.
But wait, didn't he use The Blade of Olympus to stab himself and release Hope AFTER he had already killed Zeus? I'm pretty sure it still glowed and worked back then.
The moment when Kratos said "The Cycle Ends Here, We must be better than this." Is just so Satisfying and Cool. Hands Down
Fik Thus His definitive redeeming moment, and also so refreshing after witnessing the madness of Baldur the last minute.
Eratosthenes can’t wait for the sequel
Damn he quote from Zeus. Major flashback
My favourite part of the game
Its truly the moment where Kratos becomes a new man. He was changing throughout the game, but that was the moment where he really said to himself "Enough is enough."
Among Baldur's final words, "You could've walked away", was an echoed sentiment Baldur himself could've done. His curse was lifted and he could've lived his life to the fullest now, even reforge a relationship with his mother. But he chose to to pursue a now pointless vengeance and forced Kratos to uphold his oath of debt to Freya by saving her life. Baldur's prophesied needless death was one of his own making.
Never thought of it that way. You make a fantastic point!
yeah he could have gone off to the brothels
@@dominicijavier1575 could've gotten laid before dying 😔
Freya would have had him cursed again
@@FriedSheep69 Wouldn't matter if she did. He knew how to break the spell so it would have been pointless
Gotta love the fact Freya tried to taunt Kratos with the truth about his past only for him to reveal it all in a touching father-son moment that even left Freya touched and speachless
Fauxpikachu Of course you'd be speechless cuz the guy u just threatened is actually the Ghost of Sparta that marched through olympus killing everyone good or bad lmao. that's why she just shut her filthy ass mouth.
I started crying when I saw this whole scene
I mean, it is kinda stunning. Kratos's legend is as a ruiner of gods and things touched by gods. He has shown not an ounce of care or empathy towards anything before ripping it in half, he's killed his own flesh and blood multiple times, and his rage, pride, and self-righteousness has proven insurmountable. Even then, he wears the shame of his former self pretty plainly throughout this game. The last thing i would expect out of Kratos, past or present day, would be owning up to his son what he's done and telling Atrius that what he did, and what Baldur attempted, was wrong. He's not trying to destroy something by doing this, as expected of "The Ghost of Sparta" or "The God of War", he's trying to cultivate peace. Pretty wild move for someone who nearly ended the world with his quest for vengeance.
@wιѕegυy that was all covered in the part where he said he killed many undeserving.
Cowardly Lion But Freya has one trump card, and that is the fact that Kratos eventually knows she’s the real Queen of the Valkyries who betrayed the other nine.
"You robbed me of everything!"
No, you robbed Baldur of everything. Kratos was the first and only to show Baldur true mercy and grant his one, deepest wish.
That is quite true
well she did refer to herself, not baldur
It feels different when you’re a parent. You feel like you failed if your child dies, even if they are an adult
Hypnotic Skull In this case, though, the parent did fail, miserably.
@@touremuhammad5983 yea she failed horribly
Notice the difference. Zeus says "The cycle ends here. You will never be the ruler of Olympus." Zeus didn't care about the evil of the cycle, only about whether or not it affected him personally. Kratos on the other hand says "The cycle ends here. We must be better than this." Kratos is actually concerned about the evil of the cycle itself, not just wanting to prevent it from making him suffer personally. Kratos actually wants to break the cycle, and be something better than what came before. This is the reason why Kratos quoting Zeus isn't just for show, it means that Kratos learned a valuable lesson that Zeus never did.
The moment kratos saw the writing saying “for when gods are good” he switched to his way of thinking believing there needs to be a perfound change and more than likely doesn’t see himself as part of this world he will help his son create
I think you've got the right conclusion for the wrong reason. I don't think he's thought it through to that level. My own interpretation was that he simply wanted Atreus to avoid the same life of constant war and pain he himself lived through.
Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant and we're actually on the same page, but this was my take.
@@aliciagrayson4203 yeah thats what I mean I think he just realized he can’t let gods keeping doing this becuase it’s not the world he wants for his son and it’s also his sons goal to make gods good people
@@aliciagrayson4203 It's more than that. He wants a better life for Atreus, yes, but he also wants Atreus to learn from the mistakes he made and be a better man, a better God, than he was. He doesn't want his son to inherit his rage (which, unfortunately, it seems he has) or his tendencies for destruction and wholesale slaughter.
That is what Kratos fears more than anything, perhaps even the *only* thing he fears, his son becoming the same monster he is, or worse.
To quote Yoda: "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all Masters." And that's Kratos's duty as a father, to make sure his son grows to be a better man than he, to learn from his fathers failures and not repeat the mistakes he made.
@@Bshaqisopr
That was over a thousand years ago and people are allowed to change for the better. Besides he even has a new voice actor *PROOF* he's a new man.
“I will rain down every agony” Kratos was tricked into killing his own wife and daughter then covered in their ashes and as revenge he killed the entire Greek pantheon, you can’t do shit to Kratos.
Unless something happened to atreus
Then the Norse gods will go the way of the Greeks
Yep
@@free-range-enemy7328 lol I can literally picture him punching odin to death if that happens
@@dhairyasood4109 zeus's death flashback intensifies......
I'm not gonna lie Baldur was an excellent villain. I completely understood his reasoning.
Logan Williams and I get Freya's for hating Kratos after. This game is so good
Logan Williams kratos is a hypocrite though
Mustache Man quite the contrary, it makes him a very strong one
Ballivares O I disagree Kratos killed Baldur to prevent him from ending up like he did.
That's why he mentioned "ending the cycle" and earlier tried to reason with Baldur that killing his mother wouldn't help him.
Ballivares O it makes hin a hypocrite, but where does it end? Someone has to cut the string and tie it a-new somewhere. In this case, it was Kratos
Baldur's face when Kratos says "The cycle ends here-". He knows he's done.
He went from pissed off and annoyed to scared real quick
I noticed too
@@keknov5555 that was acceptance not fear
He accepted the death
@@khotunkhan3950 He still says no as his last words
@@DeathG64 i think he actually says "Snow" because killing him causes fimbulwinter which starts Ragnarök
If the Underworld and Hades couldn’t hold Kratos, I don’t think Hel with no guardian can hold him
Cuz he killed the guardian already 😂
oh yeah yeah
But hel is more difficult to escape. Listen to what Mimir and Freya said to Kratos about going pass into that bridge.
but he’s Greek so his soul could go to back to Greece and then go out and somehow go back to Midgard which would be a miracle
Kojiro 13 and then Kratos proceeds to escape Hel from the side he wasn’t suppose to go
" We *MUST* be better, who i was is *NOT* who you will be " damnn this game have so many moral lessons
Franky Joee and Kratos is a living example of a old wise man who did none but wrong in the past and is trying to do good.
Legend of Link none of this would happen if the gods of olympus erased his nightmare memories that haunts him. Ares tricked Kratos into murdering his wife & daughter, then the gods said they couldn't forget the terrible deeds he had done. the gods played him, so they deserve his wrath to olympus
Seeing that coming from a God of War game I am beyond surprised.
Too bad it may not stick, if the ending has anything to say about it...
Nah, most Olympians betrayed Kratos, and not only them but Gaia as well. Not saying Kratos didn't overdo it with the whole "vengeance" thing, but the fault was bigger than just two gods
Freya calls out Kratos, he just shrugs and tells Atreus that he's done some shit. The dude is incorruptible.
After being into the depths of Hades TWICE, in Hel once and killed an entire pantheon, you can bet you can't just have Kratos with threats and call-outs.
Bruh , his development in this game is amazing. He said it himself no more secrets with his son
There are a lot of things far worse than killing Zeus in his past. Hell, he didn't even mention his family! He is afraid of Atreus becoming like him so in order to influence his son he wants and needs to look like a good guy, that way Atreus will follow his advices and won't lose hope.
@@Haki145 but as it turns out maybe showing Atreus that his father isn't or hasn't always been the good guy and has made a lot of mistakes in his youth may just show Atreus that his father knows what he's talking about. while also showing Atreus that if Kratos can at least attempt to be better then Atreus isn't doomed to the same mistakes.
@@emoteen011 that is true but, Kratos does not want his son to ever look up to the man he hates the most. Kratos hates himself more than anyone else and this can be reflected throughout the whole series.
I love how, when he says, "I killed many who were deserving." His eyes tighten up with anger, possibly thinking about his past with the Greek Gods, what they did, and how badly he wanted to kill them. But then, he stops for a moment, thinking about all the innocent people that died as a cause of his war with the gods and himself, and how many lives he took, wether directly or indirectly, and then you see his eyes change, being remorseful of everything he's done. And then says, "And many who were not."
The attention to detail and emotional weight in his eyes...on just one scene... It's amazing
I'm happy there's someone who noticed and appreciates that scene!
it's amazing that video games have advanced so much that we can notice such a tiny detail like this
He also killed many people who were undeserving with his OWN hands and no remorse either.
Lol this reminds me of that sea captain
You have to look freya reaction when he is about to tell hem, Santa Monica nailed that whole scene
Freya: he robbed me of everything.
Obi-wan: you have done that yourself.
bladespawn710 its kind of ironic coming from her
bladespawn710 Hello there
Freya: don't make me kill you.
Obi-wan: I have The High Ground.
Freya: I Am The High Ground.
Fucking best comment here
Kratos : Don't try it
Freya : Aaaaaaaaahhuuuuggghhh (lava flip)
Is it ok to say that the character development we see Kratos go through since GoW 1 to now is some of the best in video game history??
Yes that's perfectly fine
Yeah, it is. Throw in the PSP games and it's even fucking better.
Yes absolutely it's incredible how it all fits and ends this way truly remarkable.
Dekerus, that is definitely ok to say.
He is the vegeta of games
"And many who were not."
You can tell exactly who he is thinking about when he says those words.
Adam Lenser yeah... hephaestus poor guy
Kaleb Santos and the sea captain lmao
His wife and his daughter mostly :c
His sister?
@@zerox_8562 Also his own mother.
From many comments, it's apparent Freya is somewhat misunderstood.
First, it's useful to know that in the actual mythology, Baldr is a truly benevolent god (much moreso than Odin and Thor), beautiful of countenance and beloved by nearly everyone.
In this game's story-verse, it's implied that Baldr _used_ to be this way, before his cursed invulnerability drove him to madness and hate.
And Freya cannot forget how he used to be. In her mind, he will always be her pure, innocent son.
Second, is the precise reason Freya used her magic to make Baldr invulnerable -- it wasn't only out of misguided love, it was also explicitly an attempt to prevent Ragnarok, as it was prophecied that Baldr's death would be the tipped domino which leads to it.
Freya is just as afraid of Ragnarok as Odin, as the event kills most of the Vanir gods, too (her family, in Vanaheim).
The gods own actions ironically creating the outcome they were specifically trying to prevent is a common theme of Norse mythology, and the Ragnarok story arc in particular. The Norse were a fatalistic people by nature, and their stories reflect that.
In the lore of God of war, didn't Odin already kill or enslave all the Vanir? So isn't it a little late for that?
Same sort of thing as in Ascension: there was some sort of prophesy about the God of War taking olympus, and Ares planned to use Kratos as his weapon to take olympus for himself, but kratos ending up killing Ares, becoming the god of war, and taking olympus himself.
Or something like that, I'm fuzzy on the details.
"No, you can't kill ares! The god of war must take the throne" or something like that.
@@hamishwalker9637 Apparently many of the Vanir are still alive (in this story-universe), specifically thanks to Freya marrying Odin as a political arrangement, thus ending the war between the Vanir and Aesir.
The first game was vague on what's happened with Vanir-Aesir relations after Odin and Freya separated, but the fact that Freya effectively remains a political hostage in Midgard suggests the truce holds.
A prophecy is just the most obscure way of telling you what is going to happen.
In the end all gods die.
And you are left with the dying world we occupy in fruitless apathy.
Zeus said this cause of fear. Kratos said this cause of own painful experience
Well also experience because Zeus had to enslave his own father, a former titan that's why Zeus said that cycle ends there. But freya could always bring back baldur with some ancient magic or baldur could escape hell like kratos did.
@@joserubenmendoza9570 if you go back to freya's house mimir will say that while he was brought back by Freya he's still very much dead and just slowly deteriorating and that's just his head. Mimir also voices how freya wouldn't want to bring back baldur so he could suffer with his undead body.
@@KhepriProductions2022 I have a feeling he'll live a happier life being undead than being an unkillable god who feels nothing.
I feel like Kratos said it because he realized Zeus was right. Kratos and Zeus were simple links in a long chain of selfish, vengeful, devastating patricide. Zeus was just wrong about how to break the cycle
Well, you could say they're both responses of fear:
Zeus feared that Kratos would threaten his position as the king of olympus if he didn't act.
Kratos feared Baldur would turn out like the spartan's past self if he didn't act.
I'd choose my words carefully Freya. a number of Gods have made similar threats to Kratos. and they're all dead now, don't go throwing away the life he saved.
he's a different man now though granted if she goes against him he won't hold back.
Kratos is a pussy in this game
Wolfgang Trixl actually he's a changed person in this game. The whole point was seeing how Kratos was able to control the rage he couldn't back in the first three games.
Wolfgang Trixl no he wants to be better than the monster he was in the previous games.
Doesn't change the fact that he is weak af in this game and that is what kind of takes away the essence of god of war. Still a great game, but I wish it was more brutal and satisfying. I mean to just snap Baldurs neck in the end after he had annoyed you for the whole game is just unsatisfying and frustrating for a god of war game. The only satisfying kill in the whole game is in my opinion the one where you kill the dragon.
That soundtrack that plays when he snaps baldur’s neck is beautiful.
Name? İ NEED İT
Fake Face god of war-salvation
Lorenzo Gardner it reminds me of the first god of war games
Lorenzo Gardner agreed
Lorenzo Gardner The entire soundtrack of this game is amazing. Game of the year for me.
"You will never change!"
"Then you do not know me."
He did change he spoke facts
Her just saying you’ll never change just shows how she doesn’t know SHIT ABOUT MA BOY KRATOS
@@JoJo-zd5tm freya don't want no smoke and kratos knows it
Athena: “you Cannot change, you’ll always be an animal.”
Kratos: “I know.”
@@fijnman3813"But I am your monster no longer."
its monster btw
Freya only knows WHAT Kratos is, not WHO.
Otherwise she would speak with more care.
Dontae N Jones That's why after Kratos revealed that he is the Ghost of Sparta, Freya didn't say a word and just walked away lmao. Yes, Freya. U just threatened the godkiller lmao u fucked up big time.
Freya: Ok I'll take back on what I said.
y'all talkin like we still in god of war 3 lmao. he is nothing like the raging maniac he used to be.
Josh R No, but even Mimir directly calls Kratos the "Ghost of Sparta", though granted, Mimir knows everything. I would almost suspect Freya to have at least heard the rumors of the Greek godkiller.
Freya can't harm anything anyway. But she can run back to Odin and with a common enemy with such power Odin may lift the curse on her. If that's the case she'll make for an insane enemy since she's the goddess of beauty and magic.
Freya's threats are basically empty cuz Kratos has been through some balls deep shit :/
Leon Korno bro wat, do you not know who kratos is ??
Leon Korno Do you know who Kratos is? No matter what happens, he always comes out on top. Thor, Freya and any other God would be best to just leave him alone before he erase them like he did the Greek ones
Leon Korno he killed all of the Greek gods to ever exist. He will do the same to the norse gods if he has to. He is stronger than all gods. Even odin himself
He's been balls deep in Aphrodite too lmao
Punish. Demolish. Torture. Stab
Do whatever you want to Kratos. Any power they can use. Kratos can still take those god hits like a champ and still bash the heads of gods like they're nothing.
If the writers kill of kratos, he will escape hell, escape the animation and kill off the writers. So they're careful and only hint his death haha
Kratos vs Hela would be nice
HYDROCHLORIDE no greek hell
@@3BlueDie8
You haven't played GoWIV yet... Have you?
@@3BlueDie8 but there is helheim :v
I played it back like 5 times
"Is this what it is to be a God?." That was so powerful to me the first time hearing it. Every story, every mythology, any whatever with Godly beings is always always filled with tragedy. Almost as if they are hand in hand with each other.
Like Osiris?
Gods are like us the only difference is they can't change.
This is what makes Polytheisms engaging and relevant; they are tragedies with no conclusion, in which the Rulers of the Universe are equally as flawed as humans. By acknowledging this, we can take their example; both in what should, and should NOT, be done.
The Gods are timeless and unchanging, and their existence is not a happy one. But we can perhaps make something today that was slightly better than all our Yesterdays.
@@kami7674 My guy youre not even respectful of other people’s beliefs and quite dismissive about it. Maybe that tells you more about how much you can still grow
@@balloonfantasy3686 I understand everyones Beliefs and know that they but the difference is that i alsi know the TRUTH
1:38 *A single snowflake falls on Boulders cheek*
“...Snow....”
he knows that his death and the coming of the snow signals the beginning of Ragnarok
Actually he feels snow for the first time after the curse gets broken
@@rohitraikar3430 pretty sure he felt it in the fight before the cutscene
or in other words... god of war 5?
You mean Baldur?
Untrue baldur was to survive passed the events ragnorak as well as magni and modi that's why modi was like "WHAT!!" when you kill bis brother cause according to prophecy they live passed ragnorak maybe he knew about what the snow signaled but thatd be it cause to his knowledge they weren't supposed die (sorry for the poor spelling)
The most underrated line here is
“She could never make that choice”
It really tied everything together for me
Literally as a mother and because she's cursed and unable to harm anyone
Isn't she?
I heard things-
I haven't watched tooooo much of this God of war game.
The best part is after the scene altogether, it’s when Kratos says he would let Atreus kill him if it meant Atreus would survive. Kratos made that choice to kill Baldur, save Freya and stop a cycle of parentcide because Baldur wasn’t his son. He saw the pattern on another family and decided to end that. But in the end not even Kratos could make that choice if it was between him and Atreus, he would do the same as Freya. This is hands down one of the best sequences in videogame history, the acting from every actor is top notch (Kratos’ monologue, Atreus’ questioning and Freya’s cursing were full of emotion, specially the “You robbed me of everything”) and the writing has so much depth. Bravo, Santa Monica.
@@nathandias6771 Well the difference is that Freya obsessed over her son and took away everything from him. He was nothing but a husk who couldn't die or feel literally anything. Kratos wouldn't subject Atreus to a horrible life full of agony. He understands that he wouldn't be able to kill his son either, but he also understands that he's not going to be the reason why it comes to that, unlike both Zeus and Freya.
@@nathandias6771 I was a bit confused by that scene although I loved everything else about it. Kratos ends others' cycle, he sees himself in them. I didn't understand why he intervened, it was their problem. Did he see himself in Baldur? Did he think he'd go on a rampage against the gods?
Ghost, what do you mean? I still don't understand what it meant. What choice? She never wanted to kill Baldur.
Freya must not know who Kratos is, cause with every threat she listed, he's been through a hell of a lot worse and came out on top.
EnterTheKyuubi True. He actually Escaped hell itself 3 times, when mortals didn't come out even once
EnterTheKyuubi in his prime, yes...
L Shan hes a god so he's judt going to get stronger.
Well he Also went and fucked up hel in this one
All Norse God's know who is Kratos
When Kratos has Baldur in his grasp he looks legit upset.
Kratos knew... Just how this goes...
He's probably remembering that time when Zeus killed him, it's also what triggered his god-killing spree
When you kill enough you know what must be done.
3:27 You actually see his expression change as he mentions the many deserving and the many undeserving. To think we're in an age of video games where a subtle change in a face or a gaze can be conveyed with computer graphics! Im guessing within the next generation, when the people to grow up without video games passes away, we are gonna see video games get recognized as art at the same level as movies, theatre and music
I truly believe this game is a masterpiece encompassing all the elements of past, present and future.
I wish people would stop trying to get videogames classified as art.
The people you're trying to appeal to fucking hate you.
@@Shockguey so the general public hates people who play games?
You do realize how dumb that sounds, right?
they already are. look at the award shows. the conventions. old people just dont understand
@@Shockguey at which point did you say "art community"?
You said "the people you are trying to appeal to" which I pretty much think means the general public.
No need to get angry
Mimir: Lets reflect on Odin.
* few seconds pass *
Mimir: And so-
Kratos: *Reflect longer*
This is so funny Lmao 😆😆
"And feed your soul to the vilest filth in Hel!"
Kratos: ok im gonna have to stop you right there because I already went in there and come out...... *twice*
Malcolm Fitzpatrick not as a dead person tho...
Actually 4 times
and also killed the god who controls there
Connor Mac I don't think they killed a God in Hel..
@@pvrc1030
Killed Hades in Hades though.
This is one of my favorite scenes, because you know Freya is both angry and terrified. She looks at Kratos and first sees her sons killer: then, after all her threats, Kratos brushes it away and says that he, a god, killed his father. The gods parents are normally much stronger than the child, as Zeus technically was stronger than Kratos, and in that moment Freya knew: no matter what threats she threw, no matter what she did, she couldn’t scare him. He had literally stared death in the face countless times and won in the staring contest. He had killed the Greek god of death. He was not a full god, but the lengths he could go to, his pure skill, and his sheer power were unmatched by any that she had seen.
I feel that this was the first time that Freya stopped seeing Kratos, the lying god of a father, and began seeing Kratos, the most powerful and threatening being in all the realms
Damn, missed opportunity to say "Freya stopped seeing Kratos, the lying god of a father, and began seeing Kratos, the Ghost of Sparta and the God of War".
I don't see the fear. Just hated and sorrow.
Don't forget that the first god in GoW3 Kratos kills was POSEIDON. FUCKING *POSEIDON.* The second strongest god in greek mithology. At that point it was clear the other gods had no chance. Also if Athena didn't step in in the final fight against Zeus in GoW2, Zeus would've probably died. Not even Kratos could kill Kratos, too.
@@comradethegreat3599 Zeus can't die just by the blade alone. He fucking brings his soul or whatever that is back to his body when Kratos stabbed him. 😂 The flame of olympus is the only thing atleast in this game can kill Zeus.
Blade of Olympus to be exact.
"You could have walked away"
Exactly. He could have walked away, like his father Zeus did.
Instead, Kratos killed Baldur on the spot, to make sure he doesn't come back.
*From the mistakes of the fathers, we learn to not repeat history*
Atreus be like: _so this is how i'll kill my dad soon_
It also helps that Baldur could've walked away at that point, as well.
>Assuming Hel can hold Kratos.
I mean kratos did just escape it twice in less than a week lol
TheBadassTonberry he climbed out from the underworld trough sheer force of will so I’m sure he’ll be fine in Hel, for the few minutes he stays there that is, Man I hope that there will be a sequel to this game.
Maybe Kratos won't try to escape this time
He will be busy fighting Zeus for the lulz and have some bonding time... Atreus finds him midway and he goes"I'm talking with your grandfather, boi..."
TheDestroyerOfWorldss AndOtherVariousThings they are already planning the sequel
That "Then you don't know me" it's more powerful than what it seems, Kratos knew he was an horrible person the whole journey, he didn't consider himself enough of a good person to call Atreus his son, even tho he loves him with every bit of his soul, is at this point of the trip that Kratos realizes that he can change, that he did change, that he can be better. And that's why he is able to say "then you don't know me" he finally internalizes that he is doesn't have to be defined by his past actions, or the past actions of others
Freya: "I know enough"
Athena's ghost in the distance: "biiiitch no you don't."
Where is she
@@poland8752 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 *IT WAS A JOKE MAN*
@@ThorEdits421 That was three months too late
@@poland8752 Your comment was 3 years late 💀
@@Arthur-Morgan_ YOUR 2 WEEKS LATE
Freya: "I will rain down every agony, every violation imaginable, upon you.
I will parade your cold body, from every corner, of every realm, and feed your soul to the vilest filth in Hel.
That is my promise!"
Kratos "Lol k."
Let's not forget that Kratos crawled out of the Underworld of Hades so many times
@@megakid6350 Kratos: I'm sorry Freya I'm gonna have to stop you riiiiiight there. Ya see I killed the Greek gods including my Dad and Brother (who was a total dick by the way) and also murdered my uncle's as well as Hepheastus. I was even bribed, imagine that
@@geekymetalhead5112 Alucard vs Kratos. Man I can just seem them chilling in Asguard having a horn of Mead watching Ragnarok unfold.
@@jordangarner87 Ass guard
@@shiftboey I got that reference
That hug at the end of the video is actually kind of nice. The fact that Freya walked away without another word spoken show that she was probably surprised by the actual earnestness in his words, also she got off incredibly light comparatively because remember Kratos at his worst could annihilate an entire civilization, just ask the Greeks oh wait they're dead nevermind.
Ummm, we never got confirmation on that. Greece is definately in ruins, but I don't think everyone is dead. A few gods are still alive since they stayed out of Kratos' way.
Box Tank! Killing Freya isn't a line Kratos will cross yet especially seeing how she has helped him and his son so much. However also consider if I'm mistaken Freya is also vanir meaning in the upcoming war against Odin and the Aesir she is technically a ally or could be
Van Oskuro a few people being alive okay certainly, the civilization of Greece however? That's nonexistent now.
The civilization is definitely screwed, but there are still a few "greek" people. Or at least of greek descent.
Van Oskuro One of the series writers confirmed all Greek gods are dead, Kratos probably went after them in between GoW3 and this
*Crazy how in 2018, the damn in-game graphics for God of War PS4 looks better than pre-rendered cutscenes from back in the day. Tech has come a longgggggggggg way.*
and whats crazy is that they started working on this game in 2013
@@Rickeyvickey. 2013??!
Yeah, They have, now in-game graphics and cutscenes look pretty much identical.
@@nightraven2975 They are actually identical because games like Uncharted 4 and God of War today use only cutscenes rendered in real time with the game engine. The only difference is that during the cutscene, more detail from the textures and assets will be revealed because PS4 can direct all its resources to that scene at that moment.
@@weaverquest You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.
2:49 the way Kratos responds shows how much he’s changed. Whereas before he would argue or try to kill someone for saying that, now he just says “then you do not know me”
not really. lets take hera as an example. she did call him a monster, she told him he destroys everything and he ignored her. he killed her when she called pandora something... really bad :)
@@emperrorpalpatine164 kratos used to be much more direct over things, overall taunts didn't provoke him much but talk about the people he knew and he would be brutal, like how he jumped Zeus when he said "don't fail pandora like you failed your family", he didn't care about being called pathetic or weak but remembering him about how he the gods allowed those disagraces to happen is enough to let him go loose
now you see various times a mix of shame and regret over much of his past followed by honesty to his son
@@lucky6961 yes, I know... However the new games failed miserably to "fix" him, as there was nothing to fix. There was nothing wrong with kratos to begin with, revenge was common in ancient times. And just like now he only kills those that get in his way. None else.
@emperrorpalpatine164 There was DEFINITELY something wrong with Kratos's actions lmao
He was needlessly violent and cruel.
I like how Feya blames Kratos but she only has herself to blame she
Did that to her son. Kratos just cleaned up the mess
Yep and her trying to get revenge would've hurted her more.
no, Kratos could have walked away and let him kill her, which she wanted, she wasn’t gonna hurt her son
@@johnnyboy3410 only thing that would have changed would be that she wouldnt see her son die. baldur would still die because he would go after odin or kratos after he killed her. nothing really changes. freya would just die a needless death and she is more valuable to the world than baldur is.
@@justarandompepe8961 if Baldur goes after Odin he wouldn’t die, Odin will have Thor break his face and lock him up as Baldur’s death is the first sign of Ragnarok, he wouldn’t go after Kratos because he has no reasons
Someone needs to make a ‘boy’ counter for how many times Kratos says boy throughout the entire game.
Wait it does??? Fuck. I lost count at... A metric fuck ton
He calls Atreus Son for once at the end
lol its already up
Kratos The Fallen God Of War,
When he's punching Baldur on the back of a dragon, he refers to Atreus as "son" for a brief moment.
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I didn't even realize, that Kratos quoted Zeus at this moment
i think it is more coincidence than anything else, zeus' intentions and Kratos' are completely different.
patrick watkins Ikr
patrick watkins It's been so long that I've played GoW 2. I forget why Zeus killed Kratos. Can you tell me?
he was paranoid that kratos was creating an army to take over olympus since kratos wasn't following orders and was just rampaging on the earth below.
And kratos was attacking the cities of the other gods, so that pissed him off too
Same words but completely different. In the past they killed to save themselves. This time Kratos killed to save another. Time has changed him for the better.
he directly quotes him because zeus mentions the "cycle", Zeus and kratos are talking about the cycle of sons killing their parents. kratos saying what he said can be a reference to what Zeus told him in GOW2. In many mythologies Sons killing their parents is common as hell lol
Kratos has killed to save others
3:12 the best B O I
LMAO
Watch your tone *B O I*
The boi to end all bois
Watch. Your. Tone. *BOI.*
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I love how Baldur reflects everything Kratos was. A vengeful monster, hellbent on killing their parent.
Even in form it’s apparent. Baldur is short, has more tattoos, which are blue, and has tan skin, whereas Kratos is... well you know.
Only difference is that Kratos has finally learned, and he didn’t want Baldur to follow in his footsteps
Tigerstorm 6 We will just have to see if baulder will somehow get out of hel like kratos did in hades
It's not that he didn't want Baldur to follow in his footstep. He doesn't care about Baldur. It's just that he doesn't want to see his son do the same thing and he is showing him that this is wrong.
True, another thing though. Zeus legit wanted to kill Kratos. Freya made a mistake she never intended wanting to happen.
So he killed him ... 💔
@@Kenny-sl6hb I disagree he tried to talk baldur off many times and tell him vengeance is not the way i feel like he tried to teach him but once he saw at the very end even when he spared him that he would still try to kill her he then stopped caring.
connor mcgregor got his ass whooped!
KyleKurt That made my day. Thanks man 😂😂😂
Lmfao!!!!
Im glad Im not the only one who noticed he looks like connor xD
Omg I said the same thing.
KyleKurt he got a bit wobbly when he’s tired
It's crazy how wiser kratos has become over the course of these games.
From a mindless, ruthless beast to a wise and calm man.
In God of war 1 and the games before it he was more similar to this Kratos, but in God of war 2 he went crazy
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013
But god of war 1 and prior (in the timeline) was kratos post-wife and daughter killed.
Hell in the first game he killed the captain of the ship for a key to his cabin.
He had regrets even then and shown it sure but regrets =/= wisdom, if that was the case kratos would have thought twice about killing poseidon and flooding all of the greek world.
Kratos was just as mindless as he was in the series before gow 2018, difference is before gow 2.
Kratos just wanted to kill ares after orkos was killed, showing the spartans actions that ares deceived him into doing.
While gow 2 just made him not care for the gods and was willing to kill whoever stood in his way if it was preventing him from ending zeus. To kratos they were just, but to zeus and the gods kratos was the end of both olympus and greek world itself.
@@kanati1133 well yes in God of war 1 ane prior he was crazy but in god of war 2 he was insane.
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013
I'm not saying he wasn't, all I'm saying is the comparison to kratos pre-gow2 (at best) is a bit of a stretch to say he's similar to gow 2018 (excluding maybe ascension and ghost of sparta where he could at least reflect and be somewhat conscious of who he hurt).
Kratos never thought, he act unlike the kratos we see.
"Are you a calm and reasonable person?"
Freya: i will rain down every agony, every violation emaginable upon you..
Yeah but that Won't be enough though... lol
MegaCarsm and that includes ripping heads off of gods with his own bare hands and destroying everything. Just ask the Greeks...oh wait
He already been through it
kompak didn't she have a cast spelled on her that made it impossible for her to Use any violence or fighting against other??
Yeah, so the part where she declared that made me laugh a bit. She is unable to leave Midgard and is unable to harm anything, unless via proxy (like using the frost giant or summoning enemies in the fight with Baldur).
It doesn't matter.. i bet even if she would be released from her curse, spell or whatever , kratos would still find a way to destroy her. That's what he does.
Ma'am do not threat Kratos...
Nah, let her. Maybe death of this Valkyrie biatch will be entertaining
He knows her threats are empty as she is bound by Odins curse.
Lorenz Zahn true. But could she have told Thor where he was though?
Kratos did kill Magi and Baldur. The Aesir will not take this lightly and hunt him down anyway.
Leroy Jenkins actually, that's only Kratos's wife, Faye's prediction. We never know what will really happen in the future, maybe Atreus will found out eventually about the propecised death and tried to find ways to save him? We will never know. As Kratos quotes at the end, "Her predictions still stands true to this point". Meaning that he, himself was not so sure about her wife's predictions, and anything could happen.
Zeus : The cycle ends here
Kratos : Nope
Kratos come back to kill zeus.
Years pass
Kratos : The cycle end here
Baldur : Nope?
Muhammad Amin He was inmortal and "came back" like 3 times from "death"
well... in norse mythology, Baldur really did die but he came back on the day of ragnarok just to die again hahaha
accoeding the game's myths Brok died from spider bite while forging the leviathan axe, Sentri then brought him to eifheim where he caught Brok's wisp from the river of soul and revived him, he then kept that story to himself. even though Freya can't leave midgard, the rest of the aesir can
In norse mythology, baldur will go to hell, and has a chance to resurrect, but Loki ruins it.
Cycle*
Wow, Kratos can't get a break with lightning/thunder Gods!
TRUUUUU
ZXA ZXareo yeah
Ikr lmao
generally speaking lightning and thundar are atributed to the most powerful god always. Cause in the past nobody could control them.
@@1wasavi not necessarily, Thor was considered the mightiest but I do believe Odin would kick his ass if he so wished
Freya Odin and Thor Vs Kratos, Atreus, the giants and the world serpent god of war 5 gonna break records already
DASH X20 you forgot ..fire giant surtur ..the wolf fenris and frost giants
Dren AaShuharu oh shit I really did thanks man, can't wait for god of war 5 and 6
But aren’t the giants dead?
It's already determined in the mythology that Thor is killed by the World Serpent during Ragnorok.
EnterTheKyuubi yea i know and Odin also gets killed by Fenrir
their cycle may ends here, but not for Kratos and Atreus, at least for now
Dont forget at the end before it truely end , kratos will die and pass his item (axe)
zilia hui more like you'll pass down the torch now it's up to a trailers to destroy the the Norse gods like his father did to the Greek gods but I think he won't kill off cradles just yet not until he fights with Odin or Thor
if the ragnarok is to come true atreus/loki will died amongst his children fighting the gods
If Kratos has a word in the saying, no. Maybe HE will cause Ragnarok while protecting his son from the norse god's wrath. If Kratos would had killed Freya in that cutscene like he did with Hera in GOW 3, that would have been a jaw dropping moment.
Kratos and Atreus will come to the realization that they need to kill all gods to end the cycle.
Kratos robbed you of everything? Baldur was going to rob you of everything, including your life.
Jeebus H. Christopher She would rather to die and let her son live happy , than live knowing her son is dead
Kylo mothafuckin Ren but if you think about it soon or later baldur would die anyways when he tries to get Loki/Atreous
Fruit Master Freya was at this moment too much focused on death of her son to realise that he will die sooner or later trying to kill Kratos
Even worse, Freya robbed Baldur from pretty much any physical experience AND talks about being robbed, so yeah
What can i say... She's a stupid woman, what did you expect?
"He robbed me of everything!"
You mean you robbed your son's freedom to feel everything
LEGEND 25 Freya is kind of a hypocrite here she took away her sons ability to feel anything yes he was invulnerable but the cost destroyed him mentally in short Freya killed her son long before Kratos did
Freya is the symbolic representation of the archetype of the devouring mother.
There may be other reasons. Nordic mythology holds that Ragnarok begins when Baldur dies. Remember when Atreus asks Freya if she believes in Ragnarok, and she says “I dearly wish I didn’t, child.” Her weaving the spell on Baldur May have also been an attempt to prevent the apocalypse.
@@devontejefferson6520 Exactly. Freya robbed HERSELF of everything. She has no one to blame but herself for her son's death. What Kratos killed wasn't her son, but a heartless, ugly monster broken beyond all repair.
@@adamzabielski3685 she still just watched her son die, the only thing she still cared about after Odin destroyed most of her life. I give her a pass for being over protective and being angry, i really liked her throughout the game ^.^
I like how as Kratos says "I killed many who were deserving..." his eyebrows angle down, furrowing, but once he says "and many who were not." His eyebrows go back, as if he calms himself down.
Hes not calming himself down. Hes sobering and sombering himself
I love how the line is echoed with different meaning. When Zeus said it, he was protecting his own power out of fear of being other thrown like he did his own father, Cronos. It was for self-serving reasons. When Kratos said it, it was a call for the gods to start treating those they care about with respect and stop fucking each other over for selfish, petty reasons.
Or to put it more accurately, Zeus did it to protect himself and Kratos did it to protect someone else.
Kratos: Balder you will not be another me.
No one is balder than Kratos.
Lol he won't be balder
4:12 In this scene Kratos's tattoos look like the shape of a heart
i feel bad for balder
his whole life he wanted to feel but then he finally felt... snow ...and then nothing.
On certain perspective, he is just an innocent boy who grew up unable to feel anything so bad that it corrupted him to lose the sense of right and wrong. At least he felt the thrill of the fight and felt alive again thanks to kratos. Pretty sure kratos granted him a peaceful death rather than an empty life of vengeance. If only he didnt choose the path of vengeance.
hermaeus mora he wasn't born like that, though.
Well no he felt everything after the mistletoe. If he just left them be after that he’d still be living
Clayton Davis the spell will restore itself if the mistletoe is cycled out of his system
Dhanan Jaya l
Kratos: *breaks his neck*
Baldur: Snow
Me: How tf is he talking?
He is a god... Maybe.
He broke it badly?
TheSonicfanx1 when it comes to that mistletoe arrow then yes. He dies permanently.
Cameron Sivret he literally resurrect after ragnarock ends
Nanomachines, son
"The hands of death could not defeat him, the sisters of fate could not control him, and on this day... the man, the legend, Kratos... would have his revenge."
Who does Freya think she is? Old Kratos would've snuffed her in a minute, I can practically hear it now,
"YOU THINK ME A COWARD, WITCH? DO AS YOU PLEASE AND FALL JUST AS ALL WHO HAVE GOTTEN IN MY WAY."
he would have killed her like Hera
I read that in young Kratos voice
Are we just going to forget that Kratos literally kill queen of the gods because she was annoying
@@gowseriesvideos3245 i aint forgetting any moment from the gow franchise
well actually no i did forget some but i didnt forget that
That sounds exactly like what the younger Kratos would have said
Fun that, now with Ragnarok, Kratos quoted both Zeus and Faye with that line. "The cycle ends here" from when Zeus killed him back 2, then Faye says "We must be better than this" in the baby atreus flashback/dream in Ragnarok. Love that detail
Man Chris judge nailed this role !!! Dudes an amazing actor !
B O I
*Boy
*MAH BOI!*
weeb stuff VACA
C A V A L O
weeb stuff kratos has a new favorite word and it's B O I
Honestly, if Kratos dies during the second game and we finish the trilogy off with a grown up Atreus, I won’t be mad.
Mr. Pineapple I believe that’s what they are going at because you see the future in the murals and Kratos there is dead or dying
No.. I don't want to play as atreus... I've grown playing with kratos.. I won't accept this
Atreus is fking Loki bro, he would make one badass protagonist
Connor Mac also it would fit with the prophecy of Ragnarok. If Atreus looses his father he will most likely want to revenge him. And since Loki In ragnarok will lead the Jotnar into battle against the Aesir it would make sense
Then the game would be called God of Mischief.
For me, Baldur's death will always be one of Kratos's most brutal kills, not for how graphic it is, but for how simplistic it is. And not to mention the extreme weight of consequences that his death carries. Man, I love this series.
Kratos was right. Odin would have forced to Baldur to go after Kratos and Atreus again anyway.
Baldur was going to go through a cycle of vengeance just like Kratos and Kratos prevented it.
Freya please do remember that Odin cursed you to never fight again
Even to defend yourself
And here you are threading someone who held the title God of War and brutally slaughtered an entire pantheon of Gods who were more powerful than you in a single day
So I’d choose my next course of action very carefully if I were you
@thatscheese27 Sigrun was the hardest boss battle made in God of War franchise, just imagine Freya with her Valkyrie wings and armour combined with her magic.
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Game mechanic and boss battles are two very different thing.
Also Narrative bosses are usually easy compare to OPTIONAL BOSSES.
Even if Freya become a Valkyrie she will be very unlikely to be stronger than the Valkyrie Queen
@TheSherlockHokage Amd someone didnt get the point.
Story mode bosses will ALWAYS be easier than OPTIONAL BOSSES.
Beside I forgot the optional valkyrie queen's name anyway.
@@alonelyperson6031 She will be easier but in a lore standpoint she would be stronger
@@kris0375 Yeah, but lustin C was talking about game point.
Without a doubt she will be stronger in the lore. BUT she won't be stronger than KRATOS, who killed a whole pantheon(his) along with all the stupidly powerful gods in it.
I love how when Kratos grabbed Baulder you can see the pain in his eyes, knowing that he has to do what comes next to protect Freya. And it was the outcome he was hoping to avoid.
And just like that, Kratos started Ragnorok...
And will proceed to kill Thor and Odin and every other God who stands in his way😂😂😂
slayerBO2EPC The mural says otherwise.
@@theberserkerarmor6511 according to norse mythology, the death of Baldur would be the cause of a long winter. In game it does say otherwise but the game has be pretty faithful to the mythology so far.
@@theberserkerarmor6511 wrong
@@BrownxPrid3 wrong
Playing this the second time and hearing him say "hmm...snow" that shit made me tear up. You don't really pay attention the first time, you just go with the mindset that this is a bad guy, good guy beat bad guy and all that but when you actually slow down and pay attention you actually feel empathy towards a character, also a great way of knowing someone put effort in to the story. By far one of my favorite games.
Baldur with his curse cannot feel anything, even the cold and snow around him, but in his dying breath he finally felt cold and the snow touching his body.
This scene makes me cry.
Would you let your son kill you if it would mean that he is finally happy? Freya would. I would. You would, if you love your children. Idk if what Kratos did was the right thing, but I know for sure, in Freya's world, he did the worst thing imaginable.
The voice acting in this game is absolutely brilliant.
Baldur killing Freya would only temporarily make him happy. Kratos killed Baldur in order to spare him from the despair that would soon take hold of him, as it once did Kratos. He's been down that path and knows the only solution is to kill Baldur out of Mercy.
Freya is too blind to see that, what Kratos did, was the only logical choice, as Baldur was beyond the point of reason.
Freya always tried to delay the prophecy but ended up making things worse for Baldur. She told Kratos that ultimately she did everything for her self and didn't realize until Baldur was alienated, but letting him kill her is taking the easy way out, and doing the exact same thing, as she will be dead without having the guilt and Baldur will (presumably) be happy.
But, as we have seen through Kratos and Zeus, that would not be the case, as despair, self-blame, anger, hopelessness, etc. would take hold of him and make his life if not more, as miserable as it was before.
I wouldn't I wouldn't love them that much
I mean not to long after this boss fight Kratos says to Atreus that if necessary. Kratos would let Atreus kill him if it meant that Atreus could live.
the paradox though. she loves him so much but she stays totally deaf to his wish to feel. she doesn’t care his happiness but she would die for his life. twisted mother
There is consequences to killing a god when Kratos massacred every god Greece was essentially destroyed killing Baldur starts the end of days sure but the destruction that would be caused by Killing Freya could have so many effects on Midgard it's absurd.
"I killed my father..."
The most top 1 powerful god in general in all mythologies
LEGEND 25 well, that’s hardly true. The christian God supposedly has complete power over all of creation, to which Zues hardly compares.
In all non abramahic
shut up. Christianity doesn't exist in god of war
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Maybe it does. But we just don't know about it.
Beside Christianity is a pile of snakes best not touched.
@@dragonborn7955 YET
4:29
Freya's thinking she should've done what Kratos was doing
That's exactly what I was thinking. Freya was acting in emotion at the moment. But hearing Kratos saying to Atreus that they "must be better than God's that were before".
It's still powerfull line. Atreus was teacher to Kratos how to be a human. Not God. A family killing curse was still present when Atreus went "I'm a God" thing.
And Freya probably see this here. Kratos changed, let go of his must of control and what might happen to him and his son.
Masterpiece at its finest. And something that families all over world can learn from 😭
"We will be the gods we choose to be" - Kratos
One of my fraviout moments in the whole game
I’m surprised nobody picked up the, “He chose this.”
Zeus said the same thing when killing Kratos.
0:06 - 2:02
CommandoPanda I'm surprised the video was of baldur instead of pointing out kratos said some of that to Atreus as well.
He also said "the cycle ends here" like zeus when he kills kratos
Well, I mean, having been in that position, he knows he chose this.
It’s actually amazing that they expand the original mythology from what it is. Kronos killed his father Uranus to have the throne. Zeus then killed Kronos in return. And now, in GoW, they expand into Kratos killed Zeus and mirrored it into Baldur tried to kill his mother. Kratos has seen enough of this cycle. That’s why he wants it to end here, to have his son walking on a different path than his. And Kratos as well knew very well of Baldur which was why he killed him.
I had my mind blown by that when I was replaying GoW 2 (in preparation for GoW 2018 being on PC). Like, I had the sudden realization when I heard Zeus saying, "You will never rule Olympus. The Cycle ends here.". It was simply so smart from the writers, because it made Zeus' fear much more believable, and even more ironic, because the last thing Kratos had in mind was ruling Olympus.
Freya is the one who killed her son. She put that curse on him and refused to lift it. Knowing full well that he's life was complete torture after she put it on him. She rather her son live in agony of never knowing joy of *feeling* than fot him life to be in fates hands.
She did it because the death of Baldur is what causes Ragnarok.
Jibbers and in the end it is PRECISELY the reason why ragnarok happens (game wise). Odin tricked baldur into finding and fighting kratos by telling him that faye could lift the curse.
Golden Challenger i could be wrong but that is how it looks to me. But it does seem strange for odin to send someone who is part of the ragnarok prophecy to bring back someone who kill an entire pantheon of gods. And the norse gods are depicted as very bloodthirsty in the game. Or he was trying to stop it and in doing so started it instead
Odin didn't want Ragnarok. Odin wanted Baldr to kill Kratos so they could wipe the godslayer out and keep Ragnarok from happening, because he's an outlier.
Zenith Tempest oh so basically the same dumbass move as zeus.... Goes to prevent prophesy, but set it in motion by the path they took to prevent it. Imho the easier way would have been to befreind kratos instead, because trying to kill him would make him fight/kill in self defense.
Love how Kratos and Atreus are having this father son bonding moment, as Freyja just walks by holding the corpse of her dead son. 4:20
Artreus: “is this how it always ends? Sons killing there mothers?… their fathers?”
Kratos: “no” *snaps neck*
“The cycle ends here. we must be better” words are so powerful. changed the way I viewed my addiction and it’s cyclical nature. I am 7 months free, thank you Kratos ❤
Best Part of God of war 4 😍
Boy ... listen close
i’m from a land called sparta
i made a deal with a god that cost me my soul
i killed many who were deserving
and many who were not
..... i killed my father
he should have said that "i was a bit sassy back then so murdered an entire civilisaton by accident.. well you know i had family issues ... and we're kind of gods, and i kinda was a god of war....well that happened"
Best part for me
Atreus: So I'm a man now, like you?
Kratos: No, we are not man, we are more than that, the responsibility is far greater. And you must be better than me. Understand? Say it.
Atreus: I will be better.
“Aaaaahhh”
- Kratos after drinking wine.
He seems to have forgotten he killed his family as well...
Player Zero, I agree, I think! I dont know which part is better: the part when Kratos gets the blades or that dialogue... The voice in "And you must be better than me. Understand? (...) The power... You must never forget this" was so good! Christopher Judge is a legend.
3:55 made me Realize that Even though Atreus shows resentment in how Kratos raised him, It show's he took the lessons at heart and understood Kratos' hatred for the gods.
Voice acting is insane man
Danielle Bisutti did a great job 2:32
I love the way Baldur reacts to snow. Truly feeling for the first time, and appreciating it as his last moments.
Some people in the comments have mentioned too that this could also be him coming to a realization that snow is starting to fall, which means Fimbulwinter and then Ragnarok are both imminent.
Later on even Mimir mentions that snow started to fall after Kratos killed Baldur, and that symbolizes the end of times.
I'm afraid the cycle will start again with Atreus and Kratos. I love their father-and-son relationship so please! Don't happen:((
Shoreside Vale Kratos was the one who caused Ragnarok when he killed Baldur.
According to the images in the Giants Cave Kratos dies in Atreus' arms, which more than likely kicks off his quest for vengeance against the Norse gods, in other words, Ragnarok. The cycle of child killing parent may end, but the cycle of vengeance will likely continue. They may not be in Greece anymore, but things are still playing out like a Greek tragedy.
I can see Kratos' death being the end of game 2, then the final game will be us taking over as Loki
Villy P man fuck that lol
Wolfboss7
Kratos never actually dies, he will land up maybe in hel/valhalla/whatever and come out.
Apart from the scene where he picked up the blade of chaos, this is one of the best scenes I can say. Never tired of watching it. The background music just on point. And this scene, it is like im watching a movie or series. The best game ever. Im not regret, not even a second, when i bought the collector edition of gow. Cant wait for next GOW!
*deep breath*
BOY!
Dad of BOY
For some reason this fucking killed me 😂😂
The Advocate its B O I
"WhY wOuLd ShE tHrEaTeN kRaToS? LoOoOl"
Kratos killed her son, and if you had half a brain you'd know that freya really loved her son. Ofc she'd be mad, what's she supposed to say? "Damn, guess I'll go home."
Jay
lmao
@@abstractsophy she robbed her son of everything so.... she brought this on her self
Yeah but she’s threatening the ghost of sparta
Alex Mercer
as he/she said, Freya loved him so much she didn’t want him to die
Yeah, but that's the response expected of most children. They only see Kratos as a badass god killer who could most certainly kill Freya. And Freya is the bad mom who drove her son mad. The finer nuances of the characters and story are lost on them.
Despite the grievances Freya committed against her son, she did them out of love for him. She loved him too much. It was wrong what she did, and she is responsible, but her grief and anger are natural responses. I'd question her character if she didn't react the way she did.
If she'd just said, "Well, guess that's that. I can make another one I guess," and went home after seeing her son killed, she'd had gone from a parent who made awful mistakes out of love for her child, to a terrible, evil mother who probably deserved to be killed by her son. Living with the fact she caused her child's demise is going to be a worse punishment than death.
And she knows Kratos is right. You see that when she pauses to say something to him before she leaves, then just walks away.
If kratos dies I'm gonna be mad.
Nooblitz 74 you weren’t mad beforehand?
Nooblitz 74 he didn't feel snow or atleast he didn't physically it was foreshadowing of the winter coming after this fight before ragnorak (atleast that's what I read)
well remember when they're at the land of giants. the wall foreshadowed the whole thing, from Bauldur and kratos fighting to bauldur's death. well after that, kratos sees a curtain not yet pulled down, so he decides to peak and what he finds is a picture that shows him dead laying on atreus.
True but hope they don't
Why? He'd just fight tooth and nail out of Valhalla and fuck up whatever got him.
2:54 "passing on your cruelty and rage, you'll never change"
If only she knew, kratos has been holding back dramatically throughout this entire game. Kratos's cruelty and rage are things of legend 😂😂
It's even more scarier he's actually MORE STRONGER than during his god killing vengeance years
I think a possible at least fan explanation for Kratos character change over time was how he defeated Zues and enraged Athena. Kratos released "hope" into the world. Maybe that release of that energy that was locked in pandora's box is what changed him to become more moral than thr blood thirsty warrior he was
Cody Adkins yeah im gonna forget about that hope thing. So fucking corny and cheesy. Cant do it lol
Cody Adkins nah, he just realized how much of an asshole he was as he got older, and didn’t want his son to do all the fucked up shit he did
What good would it do for kratos if he remains the same as he was in the previous story? Would the god that wanted to destroy zeus and avenge his family and people be good father? I don't think so... the reason he has changed is because he has no need to hold for what he was anymore. But unlike some people here i don't think kratos was some foolish monster that made unwise decisions that cost everyone horrible suffering. The gods did absolute horrendeous things to kratos, yet he is the one being called a monster. His family got murdered, his reign as ruler was stopped with the blood of every spartan because of zeus's paranoia... do you know why thought kratos is the one who always seems bad in the story? Because the gods live on olympus, they can just fly whenever they want and kill whoever they want without the unnecessary suffering of other people, unlike kratos... who needs to climb mounth olympus and go throught every obstacle that is trown at him.
It's all emotional tactics, it's like someone murders your mother and father and in order to protect himself from your rage he grabs another random person and threatens to kill him too if you try to do anything to him. It's zeus that gave kratos this choice to kill so many of his people in the first place, because he didn't go toe to toe with kratos (even thought zeus is stronger) and face whatever kratos has prepared for him, but instead he hide untill the very possible end behind everything he could find usefull. All the suffering that happened was caused by the gods, not kratos, because they think they are invinsible and more than the ordinary mortal, even thought they didn't fight to become a god they were born that way... wich is the core of the incredible injustice itself. Even if kratos wanted in god of war 2 to give it all up and live peacefully how could he? The gods wouldn't allow him to live normal life, he would have to hide in some mountains living like he does in that game, with the simple difference that he knows the people that ruined his life, no, the gods that killed entire sparta in betrayl just because of zeus's paranoia and greed are living freely without having to face judgement.
The sad truth is that the gods, especialy zeus were snobby, extremely smart, extremely powerful foes that would try everything in order to defeat kratos, including emotional tactics such as ''you're monster you killed that innocent person that kinda died because we killed your hole nation but you're the evil one'' and the sad truth is in order for kratos to beat them, avenge his people, clear his name, clean the earth from this inncredible evil, he had to give up on everything including empathy, sympathy and even if it costs him all the good left in him, the morals, he just had to kill this one horrible emperor/god called zeus, even if he needs to become a monster in order to do it. It's the gods that killed all these innocent people, not kratos... the sad truth is in order for kratos to defeat the gods he must not have any inhibitions, borders to what the path he has chosen might cause, but what realy is the alternative? It's not life... all this was caused by the power of the gods and their previledges, for example they could simply fly off olympus and do whatever they want, unlike kratos who has to go up the hard way and face whatever the gods have prepared for him.
With kratos's abilities it was the only way, a guy who opens his heart for all the suffering and his own would have never beaten zeus in these circumstances, only a monster that closes his heart for all the suffering except his own and that of his family and his people. That is just how much kratos cared about justice, that is just how much kratos cared about the simple mortal chickens. It's all zeus's fault and all that blood is on the hands of zeus, kratos is the hero that sacraficed everything including his morals, character and who he would wish to be ( not murderer of innocent people) in order to give every mortal chance to live a free life free from the evils of the gods, the fear of being killed or controlled in some way by these ''unbeatable'' terrifying ''great'' gods. Kratos didn't just kill his father, he killed the biggest baddest monster that lived and reigned on earth and gave hope to everyone in the future, and he paid a great price for it...
TheOne Yeah but Kratos doesnt move on altruism. He wasnt killing gods because they were dicks to humans, he was killing them because a) vengeance or b) they were on his way. He didnt care about the consequences of his actions until the very very end. I mean , hell he killed poseidon and the sea rose to swallow a shiton of people. And thats one of many
So no. He wasnt any different than the gods he was trying to kill, he didnt care just as much as they dont care.
Kills Baldur, boom ragnarok.
so Ares wasn't dick to humans? Zeus wasn't dick to his people? Also how could he know that when he kills poseidon that would kill shit ton of people? And how do you expect him to kill zeus without having to deal with poseidon, since Zeus will use everything to his advantage. If Kratos left poseidon, in the end battle he would have to fight both poseidon and zeus, wich would mean his death. It's not kratos's fault these people died, it's zeus's fault, all they do is emotional tactics like i said. It's like zeus kills your people but you can't bring him justice because if you do you will cause even more death, because zeus has power and is a coward. Kratos was different, even thought he had so much power that's not what he wanted realy. in gow 1 and the beginning of gow 2 you can see that he wants to forget the death of his family, but the gods tricked him and did not grant him his wish instead they turn him into god of war that can be controlled in hope that would satisfy his needs, but if kratos could be a guy that is easily tricked he wouldn't be god of war to begin with, he started to dislike all the gods, zeus's paranoia led to horrible deeds including betrayl on kratos and kratos should just let him slip away just because he can't simply fly behind zeus and stab him in the back? Kratos had no choice but to kill everyone on olympus because the stake was too big, he can't just run away because even if they don't find him after like 50 years he will die and he will end up in hades's hands and suffer for unlimited amount of years, you are dead alot longer than you are alive... only a fool wouldn't kill someone as powerfull as poseidon that is ally to your greatest nemesis that in kratos's case is the king of all gods... kratos can just barely kill zeus with alot of luck involved, he can't risk fighting poseidon too at the same time, that wasn't as hard for the simple reason that he had titan at his side. Kratos is different, the circumstances were not in his favor thought... he had to make the necessary cacrafices otherwise he would suffer horrible torture for the rest of existence in the depths of hades while zeus haven't faces justice and continues to slaughter innocent people. Kratos was being manipulated all the time in god of war 1 untill gow 2, he gives up his humanity to avange his people, his family and show that even the gods can not always get away with betrayl. Only someone with atleast the same physical and the same psychological traits could do that and his inncredible fighting skills and so much luck and allies... he gave hope to the rest of earth to trully once and for all live freely, that's why he didn't give power to the titans too at the end. He trully wanted all people to be equal
No wonder this felt so familiar I forgot Zeus said that an with such great graphics
You know, this is complete conjecture on my part and a total long shot, but I just realized that maybe Baldur's last word might be more meaningful than we think. He falls to the ground, staring with eyes wide into the middle distance as they pool with blood, and just says: "Snow..." Well, in the aftermath of the game after Kratos and Atreus spread Faye's ashes and return to Midgard from Jotunheim, Mimir warns them that: "the snowfall that *began when you slayed Baldur* has become something more, the stuff...of omens." And proceeds to tell them of Fimbulwinter being the first sign of imminent Ragnarok. Kratos even makes an incredulous remark about it. "Ragnarok. From snow?" to which Mimir replies: "Aye, snow. Then more snow. And then the end of the bloody world, in that exact order." Maybe, just maybe as Baldur lays there dying, drawing his last breath he has that same realization while witnessing the first snowflakes fall marking the end of days. Or maybe he just says "Snow..." because he's enraptured with feeling cold after 100 years of senselessness, just my rambling theories.
I think both are legitimate and possible
Well if you wanna get to the thivk of it remember the dark elf general you killed the one atreus claims said "youve mafe a grave mistake" you know how they were covering that font of light? That font of light you freed is the well of souls going to helheim ragnorrok begins with a flooding of souls that helheim cant hold the dark elves were trying to slow the start of ragnarok and you fucked that up didnt you
Just be glad he didn't say Rosebud
This isn't conjecture and you're not 'on to something'. Him saying snow and the snow beginning to fall as a symbol of the beginning of ragnarok is what you are supposed to tie together naturally. So congratulations on just not being a moron who can see blatant narrative.
You here too ..... I just saw u a minute ago 😂😂😂😂
1:26 Look at the Baldur’s eyes after Kratos said “The cycle ends here” . He got that Kratos will kill him now
I feel like when Atreus said 'so you'd let me kill you? and Kratos said yes it could have been linked to that prophecy with Kratos in Atreus's hands. I hope not tho.
Lunar Blade And you don't think that that line isn't tied with another of Atreus' lines "Can I turn into a wolf?" are tied to the prophecy? Foreshadowing of things to come, my friend...
Kratos has a knack for skirting destiny, just ask the Sisters of Fate.
Adrian Wyatt | Oh wait... they’re dead.
Besides, he's already died twice before and came back.
Adrian Wyatt
Kratos: Destiny? Fate? The fuck is that?
This is the greatest game I have probably ever played and the ending just sets up for a story dlc or sequel. Kratos’s development is amazing to witness and since the game never cuts away you are right there from beginning to end. This is the step god of war took and I’m happy with it. Never have I loved a cast of characters more than in this game
no dlc comfirmed it will probably have a sequel tho
I wonder if Kratos is going to get the sword of Olympus to fight against Thor and Mjolnir.
All the weapons of Olympus stopped working after Zeus died with the exception of the blades of chaos as they are powered by Kratos's rage
It is god of war they could pull something grandiose to revive their power aside from that Kratos is the son of Zeus maybe he could reignite the weapon power by feeding it the blood of the Aesir gods and channeling his own divinity into it. The again the Smiths could forge a weapon that could rival Mjolnir.
jake foster where was this confirmed? No where I've seen
DRAKE it’s obvious the axe is meant to rival mjolnir
But wait, didn't he use The Blade of Olympus to stab himself and release Hope AFTER he had already killed Zeus? I'm pretty sure it still glowed and worked back then.