Seymour Duncan Black Winter vs Nazgul vs Jupiter

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  • @iDealMedley
    @iDealMedley 4 роки тому +190

    honestly in a full mix imo you can bare hear any difference

    • @toemasmeems
      @toemasmeems 3 роки тому +11

      While this is mostly true, I think it still matters a lot in terms of feel and if you can get your sound earlier on you won’t have to spend as much time EQing to get your desired sound

    • @toemasmeems
      @toemasmeems 3 роки тому +8

      Okay just watched his vid. Holy shit he makes them all sound the same lol idk could be the aimless amount of saturation on the tone

    • @idontgivea1769
      @idontgivea1769 3 роки тому +8

      You’re both deaf, try cooking

    • @akaalgaming9537
      @akaalgaming9537 3 роки тому +8

      Can barely hear any difference

    • @crashdummy40
      @crashdummy40 3 роки тому +9

      It's because of the overdrive. Wish pickup reviews were done without overdrive. Or pedals. Raw amp and humbucker

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 Рік тому +26

    Man every time I think I'm 100% getting Nazgul, I hear demos like this that make me rethink the Black Winter haha

  • @evelynh.4088
    @evelynh.4088 4 роки тому +80

    3:46 thank you for this. As a black metal musician it’s so hard to find gear demos that include this kind of playing. It’s always a gamble on weather or not a piece of gear works well for the genre when everyone always plays chugga chugga riffs. It’s difficult to find something that enhances the note separation when trem picking chords with high gain and not something that sounds like a blender (unless you’re into shit like Revenge or Mütiilation)

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, man, I'm glad I could help

    • @axelf.3188
      @axelf.3188 3 роки тому +3

      Black winter for black metal all the way! I got it on my Jackson and it's build for it.

    • @jmueller9288
      @jmueller9288 3 роки тому +1

      @@axelf.3188 hmmm I just ordered Nazgul/Sentient for my BM live rig. We shall see if they hold up, but I'll definitely keep my eyes [and ears] open for the Black Winter. I have played a few guitars with Nazgul/Sentient and I love those bad boys, but have not had the chance to use the black winter. We shall see...

  • @matdemaz
    @matdemaz 5 років тому +58

    I just love the Black Winter pickups. I have a set specifically for thicker shit.

  • @ItsSauIGoodman
    @ItsSauIGoodman Рік тому +9

    Nazgul just hits you in the gut. It just sounds so clear and brutal.

  • @VitoMarcheseMusic
    @VitoMarcheseMusic 4 роки тому +19

    Great video, man! I love my Black Winters. I've got them in my baritone guitars and they really help keep the bottom end beefy, but let the mids cut through when they need to.

    • @EXSENTRIX
      @EXSENTRIX 3 роки тому +3

      This is what I need right here! I only play baritone guitars. I'm trying to figure out what pickups would be best for me. 🤘🏼💀

    • @JasonStephens7
      @JasonStephens7 Рік тому

      This is what I was wondering about. I want to play some melo-death stuff in B standard and was wondering if Black Winters would be a good fit.

  • @OrlandoAponte
    @OrlandoAponte 5 років тому +48

    In other SD shootouts the Nazgul has always been my favorite, but in this one I preferred the sound of the Black Winters. Nazgul sounded a bit too tame, but I never got that impression from other comparison videos.

    • @OrlandoAponte
      @OrlandoAponte 5 років тому +2

      @Nick That's sort of the impression I got too, although sometimes it does have a nice growl to it. I do like that it seems to respond well to pick articulation though.

    • @mitch3384
      @mitch3384 5 років тому +1

      I have the Nazgul/Sentient on my RGAIX7-FM. Nazgul adds a bit of drone to B string chords that can be annoying, I can hear it here.. I'm split between trying the Black Winter or just keeping the Parametric EQ's going in Amplitube.

    • @mitch3384
      @mitch3384 5 років тому +1

      @Nick I thought the issue for me might be the mahogany body. Think I'm just gonna buy a winter and Jupiter and try them all

    • @cjmy2701
      @cjmy2701 4 роки тому +3

      I have Nazgul in a all mahogany guitar, it took me over a year to learn its sweet spots dialing in. It’s a very fragile window that almost doesn’t exist. But the tones I conjure from it, there’s nothing else that feels like it. Its a one trick pony though and lacks character in any area outside of brutality. I’ve been a fiend for Black Winters, but still wanted something with more character. I just got a Jupiter a month ago. Debating on a new axe for it, or throw it in the all mahogany SCX7. The new guitar I’m looking at is a Dk7q ht. What’s the opinion? Jupiter in a SCX7 mahogany or Dk7q ht alder?

    • @SrDeMaFp
      @SrDeMaFp 4 роки тому +5

      Right there with you, dude. They sounded mean as fook! In person, with my rig, I personally loved the Nazgul. Unreal chugs out of that pickup! Nevertheless, this video was so well done. Props to the dude who made this. Got yourself a new sub, bro.🤘🏻 Very very well done comparison with HQ audio. Fuck yes!

  • @-gnicE-
    @-gnicE- 4 роки тому +6

    Man your really can't go wrong with Seymour passives they all sound great in their own way. Great video, I like how fast the changes between pickups were so you could really hear the subtle differences.

  • @zpekuloozlysergik9977
    @zpekuloozlysergik9977 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the blackened demo so rare to have right music for right pickups in demos

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  9 місяців тому +1

      For sure, man, even in this older videos where I hadn't really found my footing yet with videos, I always wanted to make sure I was playing music that fit the gear.

  • @TheSaniwaa
    @TheSaniwaa 5 років тому +23

    It just confirms my love for the Black Winter set, had the most balanced sound of the three

  • @beridus
    @beridus 4 роки тому +14

    For chugging and some palm mutes I like the nazgul but the black winter has the most character for me and has this grit that's just so mean sounding. That will probably go well in my PRS baritone. Nice.

  • @FlawlessRythym
    @FlawlessRythym 3 роки тому +12

    I'm really digging the Jupiter. I palm mute pretty heavy (stupid broken wrist) and I like to pinch a lot, so that high range is perfect. I've been buying cheap guitars and sanding them down, staining, and changing hardware. I have a Dinky 7 that needs some sweet pickups.

  • @Gitfiddle
    @Gitfiddle 4 роки тому +6

    The Black Winters sit up in a mix very well with those upper mids. They all sounded good

  • @thephoenixcycle8854
    @thephoenixcycle8854 2 роки тому +5

    Kinda digging the Jupiter.

  • @Rammetallist
    @Rammetallist Рік тому +2

    Jupiter is win for me at this test. Thank you wery much!

  • @KevOppelt
    @KevOppelt 5 років тому +7

    This was great thank you! My new Jupiter arrived yesterday. Going into a Jackson JS227DKA. The final piece of the maxed out $200 guitar. 🔥🐐🔥

    • @Spoofaged
      @Spoofaged 4 роки тому +2

      how'd you like it? looking for something for that same guitar. Stuck between BKP juggs, and rags, or duncans BW or jupiter..

    • @MrVonkliest
      @MrVonkliest 3 роки тому +1

      @@Spoofaged I’m looking to upgrade a stock Schecter Diamond Series C-6 with something hot. Did you like them?

    • @chrismartin6418
      @chrismartin6418 3 роки тому +2

      The Jupiters don’t get the respect they deserve. I’ve played through Nazgul and Jupiter on personal guitars and it’s not even close. The Jupiters are clearer, punchier and more versatile to me. If you like to chug at all, the Jupiter may be the king of passive chugging pickups. Note clarity in chords under even extremely high gain is crystal clear.

  • @theorn01
    @theorn01 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for including the non-mix version and the quick side by side comparisons. I've got a Nazgul Sentient set, I think that my next build might get some Black Winters. The jupiters are too hot and fuzzy.

  • @kilianruvalcaba6904
    @kilianruvalcaba6904 5 років тому +15

    nazgul is the best to me, lml

  • @red240red2
    @red240red2 Рік тому +2

    Perfectly straight forward demo. Honestly displays these pickups so great.
    Love wes hauch but the high end on the jupiter might be too abrasive for what i like dang

  • @AleArzMusic
    @AleArzMusic 5 років тому +4

    Awesome comparison and guitar! Thank you

  • @kevinberstler
    @kevinberstler 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for making this video. At first, I couldn’t tell any difference, but after a minute or so I was then able to notice the differing qualities. The Nazgul seemed to have the most low end, and the Jupiter the most high end.

  • @JayR_Misophonia
    @JayR_Misophonia 4 роки тому +4

    Damn this was a sick demo video!! Gotta say those black winters are unreal. I'm not a mega BM player but I'm experimenting I want a nastier tone with a really dark undertone and the black winters definatly seem to have that grit and nastiness but doesn't sacrifice any clarity. Well impressed. Might have to consider getting a set only if I can find them second hand lol

  • @HeavyMetalCowboy90
    @HeavyMetalCowboy90 4 роки тому +17

    I like the low end oomph of the Nazgul. Worthy of the name. I made the right decision.

  • @MetalHeadProductions
    @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому +3

    Definitely learned from making this video. My later pickup comparisons show more out of mix and each pickup on clean, crunch and high gain, on different amps, that way you can get a much clearer picture of the differences in output and what frequencies each pickup is pushing.
    Pickups will not be a massive change in your tone. That's down to the amp, cab and speakers, but pickups that feel right, that saturate right, that hit your pedals and amps right while playing the way you want to without you having to fight against your gear is very important.
    Also, damn, my old videos suck.

  • @acidbath3226
    @acidbath3226 Місяць тому +1

    I like the presence that the jupiter has in the mids, not too much like a lundgren

  • @10000rambos
    @10000rambos 4 роки тому +7

    I came here to check out the black winter vs nazgul, but I think I might buy a 6505mh instead.

    • @bohdilama
      @bohdilama 4 роки тому +1

      Get an EVH LBX 1 instead.

    • @theorn01
      @theorn01 4 роки тому

      I still play through an old Peavey Ultra Plus. Meanest amp that I can find.

  • @shred5
    @shred5 4 роки тому +7

    Normally, I like the Nazguls the best but I think the Black Winter wins your demo

  • @jamesrowe2055
    @jamesrowe2055 5 років тому +9

    Your tone sounds so bad ass! I like the black winter the best all though they all sound pretty good

  • @frederikvharst8127
    @frederikvharst8127 2 роки тому +1

    Cool video and awesome song material! Love that black / death spirit. Now I'm considering some black winter PUs haha

  • @replicated
    @replicated 3 роки тому

    I am so grateful for yor channel. Been a subscriber for a while and was lookin' into Black Winters for my 7 and here you are.

  • @JeremiahMcGowan
    @JeremiahMcGowan 5 років тому +5

    I love your choice in guitars. I have the KM 7 MK III as well and I really wanted to get a white Solar guitar just like that one. I like the content. Keep up the good work.

  • @AAAA-lt9hq
    @AAAA-lt9hq 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi again. I'm that guy who wrote that short book length comment on your AHB-2 Blackout vs. EMG 81 video. :)
    Thanks again for all the trouble you go to to make these. You have really great tone and mixes in your videos.
    In a mix with that much saturation it's really difficult for me to tell the difference between the three. I imagine they all feel very different in the hands, though.
    If you haven't posted one already, I'd love to hear a Dino Cazares Retribution signature video. That seems like a really bright, articulate 7 string pickup.
    The Retribution will probably be the next pickup I try in my Jackson 7 string Floyded Soloist or my 7 string BC Rich Outlaw (somewhat rare older 90s-00s tune-o-matic 7 string model).
    There are a lot of Duncans I would love to see in a 7 string version. I've always been a Full Shred fan and recently a Parallel Axis convert.
    Brandon Ellis seems to have brought the PATBs back with his taste for them. I don't think those are made in 7 string versions but the custom shop can probably hook you up with anything. His idea for reversible coils is cool too. I often put bridge pickups in the neck and flip them so the logo is upside down.
    I would also like to see more passive mount 7 string humbuckers used with a 7 string sized Triple Shot mounting ring for more wiring options, but last I checked with SD they will not build this for you. This is probably because of the rarity of 7 string guitars with pickup rings.
    I guess it's for this reason that I tend to prefer active pickups with 7 strings in low tunings, especially for master/tone only guitars.
    If you can't use four conductor passive pickups to their full potential in a 7 string guitar because you don't have enough holes in the body for all the required toggle switches and push/pull pots, then four conductor passive pickups seem like a waste to me.
    It seems that the vintage Strat world with all of its many wiring mods hasn't really meshed well with the 7 string world. Even 7 strings with single coil pickups seem somewhat rare. I hope this changes.
    I'm also hoping for multiscale 8 string Floyd Rose bridges so I can use a high A string instead of a low F# (F#1 competes with the kick and bass too much for my taste). I doubt that will happen any time soon either.
    These days, I go for mid output pickups (12k-14k) for clarity, with the output boosted by the pedal and preamp, but it's nice to hear what's going on in the higher output offerings.
    Thanks again for your work sir. Much respect to you.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 місяці тому +1

      Well I'm glad some people are still finding these wild videos helpful. Would definitely do some things different and better today, but that's ok.
      It would be awesome to see those pickup rings for 7 string, pretty easy for them to do too.

    • @AAAA-lt9hq
      @AAAA-lt9hq 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions I think the Triple Shots are made overseas and imported and not made in house at SD. This is why the custom shop won't do them in 7 string width. I have noticed the screw locations with the Triple Shots often do not line up cleanly with every guitar--even metric based imported stuff like Epis.
      For passive guitars, I wire each pickup to its own volume knob. I put a Shadow killpot on the bridge and a phase switch on the neck. Using all this with the Triple Shots I have pretty close to every wiring option I would want in a V/V/T guitar. Some passive pickups like the Duncan Customs really respond well to split and parallel tones. Others like the Gibson 498t/500t/Dirty Fingers don't seem to change much.
      All this stuff can take a long time to wire up and it's a bit overkill live but in the studio the flexibility is nice. Live I tend to prefer active pickups and master volume only or V/T for simplicity.

  • @nexus4googleplay612
    @nexus4googleplay612 4 роки тому +3

    Black Winter: Thicker, less bitey top end. Nazgul: slightly less boomy, bit more highs. Jupiter: most mids and bitey highs.

  • @johnl6569
    @johnl6569 Рік тому +1

    The differences are so subtle but still distinct. I love the nazgul, but the Jupiter and Black Winter also sound amazing. Seymour Duncan is really killing it. I recently picked up my first 7 string a cheap made in China Jackson JS7 just to try it out, and I want to break away from the stock pickups and wake it up a little bit. Still hard to decide. Lol

  • @InfamouslyCantankerous
    @InfamouslyCantankerous 4 роки тому +5

    I'm really starting to think I need a set of seymour duncans in my schecters they came with fishman moderns which I do like. But im starting to feel that I like thr seymour duncans more. Especially the nazgul sentient combo.

    • @MrVonkliest
      @MrVonkliest 3 роки тому

      Dude I picked up a low end schecter to play around with and it’s tight but the pups blow all of the dick. Ever. Of all time.

  • @alexskibicki2262
    @alexskibicki2262 Рік тому +1

    Awesome demo 😎🤘🏻🎸 between these pickups, I like the nazgul pickups the most. I was thinking about getting a set of nazgul pickups for my Ibanez guitar.

  • @allenoxley2145
    @allenoxley2145 4 роки тому +6

    i have watched this 10 times now for the track, is it just a demo song or an actual song because it's fucking awesome

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому +3

      Oh man thank you, that's one of my originals

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому +2

      I have a bandcamp now where you can listen to and download music I played on the channel

  • @patrickgiles2700
    @patrickgiles2700 11 місяців тому +1

    I prefer the Black Winters, which is great because I just received a set from Sweetwater yesterday to drop in my quilt purple EC-1000. 😁🤘

  • @deedrmee2044
    @deedrmee2044 3 місяці тому

    Let's just enjoy the massiveness of the palm mutes. Either three pickups does the job \m/
    I have a black winter in one of my guitars, a guitar with a nazgul is in the mail.... can't wait to test 'em on my fireball with 4 V30's

  • @Wormed101
    @Wormed101 4 роки тому +3

    Black winter with a fortin grind is perfect.

  • @albertloreak
    @albertloreak 3 роки тому +8

    I know it has nothing to do with music but that Black winter shirt is sick 😎🔥

  • @shopclown
    @shopclown 4 роки тому +4

    I'm surprised how close they all where but I liked the Nazgul the best.

  • @instrumentalist28
    @instrumentalist28 5 років тому +2

    Great demo.....I have a nazgul on my 6 string Ibanez RG and on my halo custom 7, easily one my bridge favorite pickups especially for soloing ...I have a black winter on my 7 string 27 inch tuned to A standard, sounds great gives me type o negative type tones, but if I want a “modern metal “ tone I have to use an od cause it’s soo thick sounding

  • @thomasanderson778
    @thomasanderson778 4 роки тому +4

    That jupiter is super crunchy

  • @drewmcdonald4082
    @drewmcdonald4082 4 роки тому +6

    Repping Solar hell yeah

  • @mathprodigy
    @mathprodigy 3 роки тому +2

    Man they all sound good. Nazgul has the best tone-body, while Jupiter punches your mid-his a bit. Black Winter is a bit darker, bit hotter, bit chunkier than the others. Great vid, thanks

  • @matthewnabil
    @matthewnabil 11 місяців тому

    Sounds so crisp and clear out of my phone speaker. Love audio gear UA-cam reviews. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @editorrbr2107
    @editorrbr2107 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for this. A well-earned sub, man. 🤘🏻

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому

      Thanks, I appreciate it, man. I have other shootouts coming soon!

    • @editorrbr2107
      @editorrbr2107 5 років тому +2

      Metalhead Productions Ordered a set of Black Winters after this.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому

      @@editorrbr2107 you'll love them

  • @HiImBQ
    @HiImBQ 3 роки тому +3

    Don't know if you're into doing something like this, but I would love to see a video about Mixing stuff together. I always struggle to make things sound like they belong together, tonewise. Especially distorted Guitars + Bass.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 роки тому +2

      I've been thinking about this more and more as my production and the gear I have to produce music has gotten better.

  • @disco4535
    @disco4535 4 роки тому

    Whenever I'm looking for a pickup demo I always hope this channel has a demo of the it lol. I love how he has it both in and out of the mix

  • @lomoholga
    @lomoholga 3 роки тому +1

    I can’t tell any difference on my phone. They all sound damn good to me

  • @bigchiefsmackaho387
    @bigchiefsmackaho387 3 роки тому +1

    I love the Black Winter. Its WAY hotter than the Nazgul and this is really noticeable on clean channels. Its essentially impossible to get a smooth clean tone out of them because of how hot they are, which is what i wanted lol i paired my BW bridge with jazz neck so i could still do smooth clean tones without swapping guitars. The middle position sounds like the hottest p90 ever, its great.

  • @mfkrwill
    @mfkrwill 2 роки тому +1

    Ive always been super curious about the 8 string Black Winters, but this is probably the closest professional sounding demo to it on here. The sound really cool, may try to get my roommate/guitar player to grab a Winter for the bridge and a sentient for the neck of his 8.
    or just go with fishmans, but something different is always cool. we just picked up a Blue Voodoo amp

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому

      Congrats on the amp. With the video, I do wish I had demoed the pickup on multiple amps and did better to show lower compressed crunch tones and cleans to really hear the differencees, but I did recently do a video with 7 String pickups, including the black winter, where I did do that. I'd check that out as well to really get an idea of the pickup differences.

  • @Wargasm644
    @Wargasm644 4 роки тому +1

    Not enough difference to go wrong with any of these pickups. A mild amp tweak, and you can get them to sound almost identical. That being said. I’ll probably try the black winters next. Already laying waste with my nazgul in my LP Custom. I prefer actives. But I have plenty of them in my ESP’s and LTD’s. Plus I hate changing out everything on Gibson’s. With killer passives out there, no need. But given the choice between active and passive, active all day 🤘🏻

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Eh, it's more about how they got the amp and pair with a boost. The Jupiter is super hot and can get harsh with a boost, the black winter has this ugly nastiness in the lower frequencies that shows up no matter what amp I use, I even hear it in recordings of bands that use it, although that's part of it's charm, and the naz has that low mid thing for palm mutes that allow it to sound full without the extra muddy low end.

    • @Wargasm644
      @Wargasm644 3 роки тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions I moved my nazguls to another guitar and dropped EMG’s in my Gibson Les Paul custom (cork sniffers nightmare 😂) . That thing is a death hammer now. The nazguls actually sound better in my Ibanez with a longer scale length. Which makes sense as I believe they were designed for 7 and 8 string instruments. I’m dropping the black winter (bridge only) into my schecter E1-FRS. It has a Sustainiac in the neck, but I’m contemplating ripping it out. It’s got an SD parallel axis distortion in it now. But just too much bottom end. Might sound better in a thinner sounding guitar. But there are very few SD pups I don’t care for in general. Not a huge fan of the parallel axis distortion at this point. The stock apocalypse (schecter brand) sounded more balanced. But mostly I rock EMG’s. Everybody jumped ship when the Fishmans came out. I thought they were ok. But still liked EMG’s better. All the guitar companies started loading their guitars with the Fishman pups. Now I see a lot going back to the tried and tested Emgs. EMG’s get hella hate. But I love them. I have 8 guitars with EMG’s. And none of them have the same sets. Us old metal heads use what works!🤘🏻👊🏻 thanks for taking time to reply. And if you have any thoughts on the SD parallel axis distortion, I’d like to hear it? Just to confirm I’m not crazy.😂

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 роки тому

      @@Wargasm644 hey whatever works for you. I do like a couple of EMGs myself, and yeah, the naz were designed around longer scale lengths and drop tunings so I find they work better for that.
      Haven't tried that distortion so I really can't say.

  • @Dojax94
    @Dojax94 2 роки тому +1

    Hey i just discover your Channel, Great Stuff youre doing, What for absorbers do you have on the Wall? They Look killer

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому

      They're really just for looks, but they probably do help to cut down on some sound reflections a bit. I just found them on eBay years ago, I don't think there was a name brand with them or anything.

  • @aaronm.7470
    @aaronm.7470 4 роки тому +4

    I was here to check out the nazgul set but now I'm in love with the black winter set

    • @zdf14
      @zdf14 4 роки тому +1

      Same thing just happened to me. Never heard of Black Winters til now but they sound great.

  • @nickharper8145
    @nickharper8145 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. Recently acquired an LTD EC1000 and I absolutely cannot wait to remove the active EMGs from it. Any suggestions for a guitarist in a slam death band playing in B standard? I keep coming back to the Black Winters and Pegasus.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому

      I prefer the black winters to the pegasus for sure, the pegasus is scooped in a way I don't care for.

  • @sean8553
    @sean8553 3 роки тому +2

    Nazgul all day every day. 6:30 = Isolated Guitar.

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 2 роки тому +6

    All three are outstanding pups, but I think the Nazgul is the best all around. The Black Winter lacks clarity on the low end, unless you get the Blackened Winter with it's hexpoles which cleans up the mud. The Jupiter is a great shredder's pup, but not quite there. The Nazgul is the best all around. It's like a hybrid of the Distortion and the ceramic Custom, not as bright, with a lot of focus and low end clarity, great lead voice, note separation. It's the one that does it all in the extreme metal realm.

  • @razziade
    @razziade 8 місяців тому +1

    Gonna replace my Jackson pickups with the Nazgûl! I’m a big fan of Lord of the Rings, and the name, Nazgûl, sounds sooooo cool!!
    BTW, I cannot hear the difference between the 3 pickups, but they all sound so brutal. 😖😖😖

  • @DadoSimicStudiostriver
    @DadoSimicStudiostriver 3 роки тому +3

    In a mix I hear no difference at all, especially at this super saturated fuzzy type of sound like this one.

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar 3 роки тому

    I have Black winter 6 string version and Nazgul 7 string and they sound way different. This the difference is so slight. Maybe they tweak the 7 string pickups in the same direction to not be muddy. its hard to tell a difference.

  • @nvmbrsdoom5
    @nvmbrsdoom5 4 роки тому +3

    All three pickups are great but the Black Winters to me just have a certain nasty characteristic to them that I love. I think you did a great job here of showing that. Wes' Jupiter pickup is very impressive too though, that one's really growing on me lately. Good job on the video dude, cheers.

  • @tatteredhope911
    @tatteredhope911 5 років тому +2

    I want a set of Black Winters so bad! That underlying thick nastiness is what I want! Those and a set of Fluence modern pickups. I’ve got the 24 volt adapter for the EMGs I’ve got in my guitars and that helps...I was wondering if ya can do an 18volt mod on the Fishman Fluence Modern pickups and if so how much difference is there? I’ve been looking at them and pictures on line it looks like on the back of them it says 18 volt and all I could find out online is that beyond 18 volt you will fry the pickups. Maybe ya could do a video on the difference of 9volt vs 18volt Fluence Modern? That would be badass! Love your videos man! Awesome stuff!

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +1

      As far as I know, the fluence are only supposed to run at 9v.

    • @tatteredhope911
      @tatteredhope911 5 років тому

      Then I wonder what the picture of the back of the pickup is referring to that I saw? Maybe I’m trippin’. It’s on musicians friend and Sweetwater. Of course they could just have a wrong picture or something

    • @tatteredhope911
      @tatteredhope911 5 років тому

      Metalhead Productions yeah it says 9-18 volts

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +1

      @@tatteredhope911 where I looked on the fishman site and just 9v

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +1

      @@tatteredhope911 idk, maybe it can

  • @experimentalgroup9473
    @experimentalgroup9473 3 роки тому

    I have a Black Winter in my strat in HSS with single coils. And you know what? It sounds f&@kin’ awesome. People think this pickup is a one trick pony and only does death and black metal, but plays well with moderately wound single coils and does any blues/rock/metal genre really well. Cleans up well and sounds crystal clear. In my opinion, this is the best full size bridge pickup Duncan makes, bar none. I’ve never heard anyone say these sound like shit, because the only way they could was if you sucked as a player.
    They are just that good.

  • @xoxosunnyxo
    @xoxosunnyxo 3 місяці тому +1

    Which bridge you recommend for slamming death brutal metal? i need recommendations

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 місяці тому

      Depends on what you're plugging it into. Any of these will do the job depending, although, overall, I'd say the black winter, personally, but if you want something tighter and more cutting, the Jupiter will absolutely be what you want.

  • @allend3127
    @allend3127 3 роки тому +1

    Which ones would be best on cleans, if you wanted to do some melodic finger picking?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 роки тому +1

      I'd have to go with the nazgul. Oh the three it's the most balanced and it cleans up better.

    • @allend3127
      @allend3127 3 роки тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions Thanks, friend!

  • @zacharyzane1638
    @zacharyzane1638 Рік тому +1

    I can hear the differences clearly as I was previously sold on the Nazgul until now. These Saturn+ have a very clear high end sizzle that's typically what I'm searching for. I already have the Gul, Pegasus set and now will have to own both Vinter and Saturn's.

  • @TornacenseDeFuturo
    @TornacenseDeFuturo 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice playing, will order the BLACK WINTER :)
    I'm not sure what I'll order for the neck for my Ibanez rgrt421.
    Thanks for the comparison.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому

      I've always been a fan of the sentient

    • @MaestroJericho
      @MaestroJericho 3 роки тому

      the whole set imo. I prefer the black winters to the nazgul/sentient, alpha/omega, bkp aftermaths, bkp juggernauts, Dimarzio imperiums, and Duncan Jupiter that I've had. the black winter neck gets stratty almost split (on an Aristides 070)

  • @Weasha
    @Weasha 5 років тому +2

    sometimes i think when ppl make vids where the caption changes rather quickly displaying which pickups are played that its all the same pickup cause i hear zero difference each time tbh

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +2

      I gotta ask what monitors you're using cause there are some clear differences

    • @Sublight77
      @Sublight77 4 роки тому

      youre not hearing it then because theres clear differences in the three,

  • @felixbeerens1594
    @felixbeerens1594 5 років тому +3

    I've buyed the nazgul/sentinent for my 6 string les paul a few days ago. I hope they sound like this! Nice Comparisation!

    • @JijiSoundProject
      @JijiSoundProject 5 років тому

      nice choice
      my friend put Nazgul sentinent set on his LP and sounds killer

    • @whoshotya117
      @whoshotya117 5 років тому +1

      @Felix How do you think they sound now?

  • @user-jp1qw7wt6u
    @user-jp1qw7wt6u Рік тому +1

    Is there a difference between the Black winter and the Blackened Black winter or they are the same just different looks?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      Honestly no idea. I have a blackened in my ltd and it doesn't seem that there is a difference, tbh

    • @user-jp1qw7wt6u
      @user-jp1qw7wt6u Рік тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions Thank you!

  • @RichGuitarWissen
    @RichGuitarWissen 4 роки тому +1

    Whats the name of the song btw?
    I like in the first moment the jupiter.
    After a few tones I try to hear the difference between bw and nazgul.
    I am not shure but I hear a better palm mute from nazgul. Best at 4.44
    Bw - Nazgul - Jupiter
    I like the Nazgul more.
    ...this clip is great...
    Thank you for the work!

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Ah thanks so much. This is one of my songs called begravning

    • @RichGuitarWissen
      @RichGuitarWissen 4 роки тому

      @@MetalHeadProductions great song - definitiv 100% evil
      Have you a cd with your music?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  4 роки тому

      @@RichGuitarWissen not yet, I'm working on that atm. Got the music recorded, we're just working on the vocals now. Should be good.

    • @MrVonkliest
      @MrVonkliest 3 роки тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions like....I need you to release it already. Please, thank you. Honestly I dug this as an instrumental track.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  3 роки тому

      @@MrVonkliest haha, well, I'll have instrumental stuff up on bandcamp in the coming months once I get my Granophyre and get stuff recorded where I want it.

  • @nihilistictanuki6947
    @nihilistictanuki6947 3 роки тому

    Very interesting video, thanks for that! The Nazgul sound very well balanced (probably across the board the most recommendable) the Jupiter are very similar but a bit on the harsher side, I don't like them as much...the Black Winter on the other hand...damn, they are completely different from those two with quite a unique flavour.
    The Black Winter are my personal favorites but the Nazgul are probably the jack-of-all-trades.

  • @mikebunzey3146
    @mikebunzey3146 2 роки тому +1

    Sludge riff master right here eh!

  • @ricardadn
    @ricardadn Рік тому

    Black Winter sempre!!!!

  • @MrVonkliest
    @MrVonkliest 3 роки тому

    So I play a lot of music that the artists use EMG’s and Fishman pickups. I’m not trying to route my guitar for actives and I enjoy playing some not metal stuff also. If you had to pick one for an all around with an emphasis on metal, you got a recommendation?

    • @IllusionaryFuneral
      @IllusionaryFuneral 3 роки тому

      I know you’re not asking me, but I figured I’d answer anyway to try to help you out. Jazz players lately have been using the Black Winter due to its versatility, from what I’ve read. I personally play clean passages as well as heavy shit in my music, and the Black Winter handles both well.

  • @mateddy8420
    @mateddy8420 4 роки тому +3

    Black winter

  • @joseraya29
    @joseraya29 3 роки тому

    Should I grab a Black Winter to play some Death? I’m trying to create a general Chuck Schuldiner tone

  • @chrismartin6418
    @chrismartin6418 3 роки тому

    7:23 till the end is where one can easily tell the difference. Black Winters are punchier through the middle and hottest. Nazgul has some thick lower mids and good clarity. Jupiter is hotter than Nazgul with amazing note clarity and high end punch, but not as hot or mid heavy as the Black Winter. All sound good so it will just be a question of which suits your personal preference. Great Vid!

  • @LookForTheDay
    @LookForTheDay 3 роки тому

    I cant tell the difference. The only thing I can tell is theblack winter has a touch more highs. It's a little crisper

  • @MegaWumba
    @MegaWumba 3 роки тому

    The black winters can do it all!

  • @philipjohnii9593
    @philipjohnii9593 5 років тому +1

    Hey man! What pickups listed below do you personally prefer?
    1)Keith Merrow Fishman fluence
    2)Wes Hauch Jupiter
    3)Devin Townsend Fishman fluence
    4)Alpha / Omega SD
    5)EMTY blackouts
    6)Black Winter
    7)Willie Adler Fishman
    I would really like to know which one do you like the most! I really love your demos!

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому

      personally, for my music a I prefer the keith merrow fishmans. not too bright, not too dark, and it's medium output pairs well with an OD/boost into an amp for high gain without getting over saturated or shrill.
      it all depends on what you're going for, and if you're using 6 or 7. like for 6 string I'd probably lean more Devin Townsend fishman. Super tight and super hot, dont even need an OD really, and because of the tightness are better for lower tunings.
      everything listed are great pickups, my least favorite probably being the blackouts.
      Im glad you like the channel, thanks for the support!

    • @philipjohnii9593
      @philipjohnii9593 5 років тому

      May I ask what's your favorite pickups for 6-string? Btw I am looking for Keith's tone but i'm afraid it wouldn't sound as good in my guitar. I wonder which one sounds MASSIVE on 6-string is it KM's or DT's?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому

      @@philipjohnii9593 the KM and DT set sound way different. the KM set seem to have been built around the idea that you're going to boost your amp with and OD to make it tighter. Medium output, fairly balanced pickup with a slight bump around 200hz for some grunt in palm mutes.
      the DT set is really, really high output, super tight low end, bit of a mid scoop, and a lot of top end. As far as an active sound, its something I really like.

    • @jaychen2000metal
      @jaychen2000metal 5 років тому

      Where do the Dimebuckers sit in comparison of all those?

  • @asherplatts6253
    @asherplatts6253 Рік тому

    How do you change the pickups without moving? Are the shots just that well matched? I didn't see a single jump cut

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      Im not going through the pain of changing pickups and redoing every single shot, so I film each shot once which is just me playing the music, and I do that after recording all of the in and out of mix audio with each pickup.

  • @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA
    @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA 4 роки тому

    the high mid frequency (of wht does exist) in the BW just hass that weird creepy resonance on cording and fast picking which just gives it that pushed sound..........
    the nazgul and jupiter.... have a very different feel in clarity and output but seem to have a very similar tone curve for fast picking.....

  • @malcolmrff
    @malcolmrff 3 роки тому

    Hey question here. Was the nazgul a drop in replacement into the solar guitar? I want to put one in my own solar but unsure if it'll just be a drop in replacement.

    • @IllusionaryFuneral
      @IllusionaryFuneral 3 роки тому

      It definitely should be, I dropped in a Sentient in the neck and Black Winter in the bridge of my Solar V2.7 without any routing.

  • @rferguson3
    @rferguson3 Рік тому +1

    It’s pronounced like, How-k. Not Hotch. Just letting you know. No hate, at all.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      Oh I do know now, but thank you

    • @rferguson3
      @rferguson3 Рік тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions Right on. Like I said, too, def wasn’t trying to be a dick or anything. Great vid/review, by the way. I’m thinking about getting the black winter, but am apprehensive. I’ve herd completely conflicting reviews. Some say it’s too bright & treble-y, others say it isn’t. Mainly, I’d like it to have nice, tight bass response.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      @@rferguson3 it's mid heavy, not bright and trebly so no worries

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Рік тому

    How many mV output do each of these have? We can get kohms listed, however we need to do actual measurements of kohms resistance and the millivolts that is output reading from each pickup.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      That's not really going to tell you much because that doesn't directly correlate with the output of each pickup. I don't even own all of these anymore either so I wouldn't be able to get that reading.

  • @mathias6423
    @mathias6423 Рік тому

    Never heard of the Jupiter pickup, wouldnt the Invader be more of a top 3 flashship metal pickup along with the Black Winter and Nazgul ? The Invader seems to have the highest outputs out of all of these and I hear more people talking about them than this Jupiter pickup.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому +1

      Invaders aren't really modern metal. They're hot but they're super muddy and just not used a lot anymore. The Jupiter is a newer pickup, although it's been out a while now. Much more of a modern pickup.

    • @mathias6423
      @mathias6423 Рік тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions I see, I really like the Black Winter, Nazgul and the Dimarzio Super Distortion so If It Is anything like those pickups I will try it out :)
      Since they are not extremely far from the Nazgul and Black Winter after listening to them some more, they should fit pretty good with my Sentient neck pickup I already got, right ?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  Рік тому

      @@mathias6423 yeah should pair well for sure

  • @sunnym19
    @sunnym19 5 років тому

    Respected sir can you please make a comparison video of Seymour Duncan Jupiter with the seven string version of DiMarzio Titan and DiMarzio Illuminator?

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +2

      Cant atm. I would have to buy the jupiter again. unfortunately, I gotta sell some gear to fund more gear for the channel

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo 4 місяці тому +1

    3:12 3:20

  • @sb632
    @sb632 3 роки тому

    Black winter sounded the best by far. Cut through the mix the most to my ear. Jupiter sounded the thinnest. Nazgul was in the middle.

  • @XRated129
    @XRated129 4 роки тому +1

    Jupiter For me

  • @toemasmeems
    @toemasmeems 3 роки тому +2

    Wes ( pronounced ‘Hawk’) Hauch

  • @SuperDeadRooster
    @SuperDeadRooster 2 роки тому

    Get whatever pickup you think is cool. Cuz they sound the same, so having gear you like might make your playing better... Just my theory

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому

      Well, they hit amps differently, they'll feel and perform differently for different people. Something I wish I'd done with this video that I've done with a more recent video is have a couple different amps and have high gain, overdrive and clean sounds, because that made the differences very clear when just high gain doesn't as well.

  • @toemasmeems
    @toemasmeems 2 роки тому

    I like this concept but there's way too much distortion, it would be nice if you backed off the gain and picked harder to make it overdrive. Good production though.

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому +1

      Differences between pickups, especially when they're all higher output and similarly made, are smaller, unfortunately than most people would expect. To combat this recently I did a large comparison video where I do high gain, mid gain and clean with a couple of amps and the differences were much easier to hear with that video.
      Live and learn, really.

    • @toemasmeems
      @toemasmeems 2 роки тому +1

      @@MetalHeadProductions sick if it's out I'd love to peep it bro!

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  2 роки тому

      @@toemasmeems absolutely
      ua-cam.com/video/dMdt2rfbn8o/v-deo.html

  • @ravelitschimo
    @ravelitschimo 2 роки тому

    One guitarist should play : black winters/ nazgul and the other Jupiter to split the frequencies

  • @hershellumiere
    @hershellumiere 4 роки тому

    Black Winters sound the best to my ears.

  • @barrygomez5968
    @barrygomez5968 5 років тому

    What Skeleton Witch albums use black winters? Digging their newer stuff for sure

    • @MetalHeadProductions
      @MetalHeadProductions  5 років тому +4

      Serpents Unleashed, The Apothic Gloom EP and the last album, Devouring Radiant Light.

  • @siegfriedquast389
    @siegfriedquast389 Рік тому

    Der Black Winter klingt am meisten nach Black Metal, der Nazgul klingt amerikanisch und eher nach Power Metal oder Grindcore, der Jupiter geht auch in diese Richtung und klingt noch technischer, sehr klar.