This thing sounds killer. I can't believe how hard it was pushing the amp on clean. You could tell he's using a clean setting that wouldn't typically give any breakup, yet the humbucker was hitting it so hard making it breakup. Wild
Nice sounding pickup. Real gritty and dirty. The X2N has way lower resistance, but I really like the sound of the Slug . Both in the same setup would be interesting to hear. I'm working on modding my Les Paul copy and this pickup in a single pickup configuration would be sweet. I love the insane resistance!
this is the first video of yours that I have ever watched and I got to say man I really love your playing style. I have always been a solo musician for the most part so I don’t really know the terminology or nomenclature, but I love the classical element in what you do often times when I listen, I think of how the notes would sound if transposed to a grand piano and wow man nice riffs.
Land o' lakes,wi...tnx for showing me this new part,....can not wait to build a guitar with these,.......,,,we know right away they improve our sound,........cool....pat&family.
Its based on Seymour Duncan El diablo was relases mid 1990s Scott Ian was endorsed by this humbucker played it on Stomp442. So pretty Seymour just changed name an tweaked it some. A shootout comparison of the slug vs El diablo would very cool.🤘
That Skeletonwitch riff is 10 years old now, takes me back. Anyhow, curious, did the mounting ring that came with it come as a flat or slanted mounting ring?
Reminds me the duncan invader, as a concept. That would have been a nice comparison, I wonder how close/different they are. I bet the invader would have more highs a bit. Cool pickup
I run double invader on an Iron Label an even 2 can't get this chunky without alot of gain. I must have 2 of these things in a new prestige or something 😅
Really wonder how it compares to DiMarzio X2N. Both are mad hot rail pickups, but Slug is all about resistance, while X2N has "moderate" 15.83 Kohms of resistance, but it's an inductance monster.
I onwed a Black Winter before. I had that in the Neck position. Here was my Setup. Bridg: Seymour Duncan Full Shred, ( recently placein in Neck position, I did not like it) Any who, the middle was Dimarzio "The Chopper". and then the Seymour Duncan Black Winter. I had ran that setup for the last 4 years since first built my custom guitar. I did use a set of Active EMG and Invaders sets many years ago. The Invader seemed just too dark. I did like the EMG Active but, not organic, how I like things styled but, natural. Now, I am rolling with Brigde: Seymour Duncan Full hred, Middle, Dimarzio "Steve Vai Signiture", Utopia Single Coil. That is Loud and kind of like a Twin Blade output response good middle pickup Earth Ground rire included which is different for a single coil to me. Then, for the Neck I am now using the Seymour Duncan SLUG. After doing more research into pickup selection, my sound set up is or will be an EQ from Mid High to Mid Low maybe Low low with some chimes. I am so trilled with the setup now. Yes, the Neck for Rhythum "CHUGGING" right into some lead or even a slight solo oh so good!
Will these fit in a Les Paul? I measured the pickup rings and they should just barely fit through the openings, but what about the support legs? Can't use the pickup rings they come with because they're for flat tops.
The pickup ring is regular sized and should fit in an LP I'm pretty sure, you could just sand the bottoms to round them, pickup legs are like a normal pickup as far as how deep in the body they go.
@@MetalHeadProductions Thinking that if I have to sand I'd rather open up the inside of the pickup rings I have already though. That way I dont so much have to worry about getting the contour just right so they sit on the body properly.
For a pickup that is so much not my thing, this one actually seems pretty cool. I have a guitar this pickup would serve a purpose in. Wouldn’t get used much but it would see some play time.
I love the Slug and the Black Winter. Great demo! I remember when DiMarzio had a bigger range of high output, monster pickups than Duncan. It looks like Duncan has far surpassed DiMarzio for metal monster pickups. I heard the Slug or the El Diablo was designed to be a Tony Iommi signature model. It's just never been clear what the case is. I know Scott Ian endorsed the El Diablo about a decade ago. If we're talking metal, and I play traditional, then for my own needs I'm cool with anything from a Duncan Custom SH-5, Hot Rails, a Dimebucker, Jupiter, Full Shred, Screamin' Demon, Alternative 8, Duncan Distortion, or Black Winter. I tried the Nazgul, but it really works best for lower tunings and has a harsh hig end, and I don't tune lower than D or just the occasional Drop D. I'm usually in E standard, or down a half step if I'm working with a frontman. Good demo!
I agree. I email Duncan them now and then to ask about the history of their pickups. They don't list the dates they hit the market on their site like DiMarzio and some other companies do and they've never released as many signature models as DiMarzio either, so we don't always know what pickup was designed for a general audience and which for a big name professional. I also find that the values that Duncan and DiMarzio list don't always give a sense as to the power of a pickup. The Custom SH-5 is even crunchier than is listed as JB, but listed as power output than a JB. Some of DiMarzio's high output pickups have a lower DC rating than some of Duncans lowest output pups. It's confusing for me and I've been playing guitar almost forty years. @@MetalHeadProductions
@@angusorvid8840 yeah it can be confusing, but that resistance isn't always an indicator of output. The slug for example, while it is really hot, it's not triple or double a normal pickup, even though the resistance is.
Thanks for the review! I have been using SD Slug for several years in my Gibson LP Studio. With Slug this guitar became a ultimate riff machine for sludge / doom / death metal. I've always loved the sound of the original Gibson neck pickup (490R), but I wanted something a more interesting for the bridge position. Tried many other different Seymour pickups (Invader, Alternative 8, Dimebucker and Black Winter), but the Slug was the closest to the sound I wanted. Fat, heavy, but very articulated. The only thing I want to say is that Slug doesn’t seem that loud to me. In terms of signal level, it is on par with the original neck pickup on my LP. My other guitar - Ibanez RG655M with Dimarzio Tone Zone sounds even louder. Yes, the Slug has a lot of DC resistance, but this is not directly related to the output level. P.S. Just subscribed! Gread review, great sound and great riffs! Thanx!
For sure, glad you dig it, and yeah, it's not 3x the output because it's 3x the resistance and I go over that in the video, even showed guitar DI tracks from the slug and black winter and it's not much more volume.
Black winters are my current favorites, now I need some slugs, these things are sick and heavy AF! What gauge strings you using on B standard tuning? Thanks for the review never heard these before!
Pickups brand/model does not matter much in metal mix. All you need is a high output pickup. Desired tone can be obtained from amps and effects. In clean tone, you can find minute difference.
So it's not so much a big tone shift you're hearing, absolutely that comes from the speakers, amp and pedals, but this gets that chunky saturation and nastiness that works so good for sludge and doom.
I’m impressed with the SLUG. I want to snag one and drop into (something) for some good ole doom stoner style metal. Down, Mastodon or BLS. The sound to me fits perfect.
also, I found these pick ups on eBay that are basically two hot rails shoved together in one sort of double hum bucker thing and I have yet to install it but it claims to have over 18 K.
do you remember what tuning you had for your SG ? Really nice tone btw and did liked the playstyle my kind of Doom need this pickups in all my black Guitars
dude nice i used to play a lot in Drop B till i end up going and staying at Drop A cos i just love the whole Gloomy lower tunes as the crazed Doommetal guy that i am despite that fact that is more painful to keep the guitar properly tuned at times so B standard is same as full drop B or is only one lower string ? sorry if i got a minor confusion
Those are super different. Draig is lower output so it works great with all kinds of fuzz pedals, this is just a massive wall of sound that makes stuff doom. Both are great for what they do.
I have the S. D. CS El Diablo. Similar design, without the overkill. Have you tried that one ? The aluminum Neck is great. Definitely on my Bucket list. That EVH Stealth is so Heavy. Insane Gain.
Yeah I bring that up in the video. Amp is going into a two notes captorX with an IR blend of my DV77 and 1265 speakers, it's mostly a DV77 though, and the cab is my KSR 412
I use it and while i really like the tone im getting out of it tbh i wish i just went with something more like a bill lawrence bc its a little TOO high output
@@ordohereticus3427 so I just checked and then Seymour Duncan website says, "The Slug is a gnarly and insanely high-output humbucker that’s perfect for stoner and doom metal."
@@synthkatt I'm actually usually more of a passive guy myself, pickups like the black winter, m7 and Warpig are all killer and feel good to play, and for doom stuff I always go passive. There are some great actives out there too, the black metal, lots of the fluency pickups and the 57 are all great.
At first I thought these pickups were a “one trick pony”, only suited to modern metal. But the string definition, even at oversaturated distortion levels, tells me they would be equally at home in 80’s metal.
@@MetalHeadProductions very cools I was drinking coffee with tequila last night so likely I missed it. What I. Didn’t miss was the sound quality. I really appreciate it because the recordings I have back from age 17yo forwards is pretty rough. Using a 500mg spinning hard drive. Haha. It’s so amazing to me what’s available now and hearing your mix had me wondering. Thank you for clarifying the tuning bro. I’ve tuned down abit to fit my voice but now I’m baring for my more simple originals cause It’s more fitting that my vocals fit with which ever mode I used in E standard. Have you tackled the possible combinations of guitar tunings v/s natural vocal range in a video? Thanks for the quick reply.
I’m newly subscribed. So I apologize for any perceived ignorance. Also. I was thinking the bridge pickup would would sound pretty stringworthy as a neck pickup position… was just an idea and I would love to hear it if you had the means. Secondly I’d like to hear it using the Randal NATAS software. Likely you have it is the only reason I ask. Either way great video and I’m highly interested.
@@elasticmachinery thanks, man, yeah home recording has come a long way and I'm glad you like my tones and mix, took me a while to get to this point and I'm still learning and changing up how I do things. I do have some songs for a side doom metal project where I'm using this guitar and singing on one of the tracks, the title track, phantom wizard. It's up on UA-cam and Bandcamp. My voice, although I'm not a particularly great singer, sits just fine with the guitars
No, no, super different. Wes model isn't nearly this hot, the Jupiter is very tight and has tons of top end, meanwhile this is the exact opposite. Just having blades doesn't make them the same.
The clean samples were actually useful - thanx! I don't think that one is part of their bridge shootout video. It would be interesting to see the Slug vs Blackwinter vs Nazgul in a proper controlled tone test (leave the mahogany bodies and the aluminum necks at home). You're right - that thing IS rolled off a lot on the top end. But the mids are rolled off proportionately as well - not a bad tone. I've been an EMG 81/81x user almost all my life, but I do like the Blackwinter, and especially the Nazgul. Currently, I tend to favor high output quadrails for my guitar builds. The have a rather flat response curve.
Oh the mids are not rolled off, this thing is like all mid range, haha, so much mid range. Black winter and nazgul are both killer pickups, some of my favorites.
@@MetalHeadProductions I'd say more lower mids - but you know how it is trying to apply names to EQ bands.... Does "bottom end" mean 60Hz, 100Hz, or 250Hz? Know what I mean? I ended up getting a spectrum analyzer to test pickups. I've posted some preliminary results on my channel. I'm in the process of completing a build with interchangeable pickups and 9 sets of neck and bridge pickups for it - everything from EMGs to lipsticks. That will let me test all kinds of pickups in the same guitar with the spectrum analyzer. Right now I'd say my favorite pickups are probably EMG 81x's, Blackwinters, Nazguls, and Saphue wax potted high output quadrails with coil split.
@@normbarrows well mids are typically considered to be around 500-2000hz and lowend being frequencies lower than that. This pickup very much does push that 500-2000hz range.
@@MetalHeadProductions Interesting - I consider 1000Khz to be mids. To me, 30 to say 100 Hz is bass, 125Hz to 250Hz is mud, 500 to 6000 is mids, and above 6000 is treble. I like a tone that has a lot below 125hz, a lot above 8000Khz, and nothing in-between. I especially detest frequencies between 100 and 1000 Hz - mud is not bass! Then again, my home stereo used to hit harder than some clubs i've been to. Most pickups are sort of the opposite of the radically scooped tone I like. They have strong mids - weaker treble and bass. That's why I like quadrails and EMG's - less mids and mud, more bottom and top end clarity. And the quads don't require a battery and are cheap. Technically speaking, compared to most humbuckers, odds are the slug has more bass, normal mids, and less treble. IE - I suspect they jack the bass and kill the treble. Just look at the advertised response curve for it - a downward slope from bass to treble. Most pickups are highest (or as high) in the midrange. The oversize is probably to make them more sensitive to bass. like Jeff Kiesel says: "Pickups aren't magic, they're math." They are pole pieces and magnet types and bobbin design and wire gauge and wire coatings and winding patterns and numbers of windings, etc, etc. I have yet to get into making my own pickups, so I can't tell you exactly what they do, but I suspect that they do it that way (boost bass and nerf the top end). Whatever it is, it hits, and it's not too muddy.
@@normbarrows yeah, I actually put up the EQ response of the pickups in the video that Seymour Duncan has up on their site and it shows a rolled off top end with lots of mids and lowend.
I literally have an entire out of mix section that's just the guitar, and all of the sections of the video are time stamped so you can easily skip to the section you want to hear, what are you talking about?
Aluminum neck and brass nut won't change the tone, it has a rolled off top end for sure, but I wouldn't call it lifeless. It's about all that output of just tons of midrange and low-end pushing whatever gain you have into fuzzy, dooming territory.
Idk about that. Actives tend to be tighter, not really have a lot of lower mids and more upper mids for cut, this thing just has all of the mids everywhere
@@MetalHeadProductions de todos os passivos este deve ser o que tem o pico ressonante mais baixo, só não sei o quão baixo é tao próximo de 750hz que é o reforço de assinatura emg
Absolutely, speakers, amps and pedals are going to have the biggest impact on the sound. Pickups do matter to the player, however, and this absolute monster really drives amps to higher saturation and turns whatever you plug it into, into a sludgy doom monster.
This thing sounds killer. I can't believe how hard it was pushing the amp on clean. You could tell he's using a clean setting that wouldn't typically give any breakup, yet the humbucker was hitting it so hard making it breakup. Wild
Yeah that's my normal clean setting on the Friedman and normally it's crystal clean, but this thing just slams it.
SPIDER WALKING I THOGHT WAS DEAD!! HAPPY TO SEE THERE ARE PPL OUT THERE THAT STILL KNOW HOW TO PLAY
Finally, a demo channel that plays my style of riffs. Instant subscribe
Happy you dig the riffs, and nice to have you, thanks for the sub.
It kind of nails the buzzsaw tone through the EVH. Badass
That guitar tone is filthy AF! Nice!
Massive sound, and thanks for comparing to other high gain pickups and checking the cleans
All high gain pickups sound the damn same. Just get something high output and be done with it.
@@gdawgs101 the whole point of playing guitar is so we can waste way to much time and money and gear that’s mostly similar 😅
Every body is talking about the pickup and I’m just drooling over the guitar!!!
Awesome review!
I feel like the
Slug and an hm2 pedal would be a good match
Yup. I can hear it.
Yeah I agree. What this pickup does seems like it would make up for the shortcomings of the hm2
Yes and sd1 to get extra grind and clarity
hm2 or mt2
Revv g4 would sound sick with this pickup
Nice sounding pickup. Real gritty and dirty. The X2N has way lower resistance, but I really like the sound of the Slug . Both in the same setup would be interesting to hear. I'm working on modding my Les Paul copy and this pickup in a single pickup configuration would be sweet. I love the insane resistance!
Awesome! Sounds excellent. Appreciate your energy.
this is the first video of yours that I have ever watched and I got to say man I really love your playing style. I have always been a solo musician for the most part so I don’t really know the terminology or nomenclature, but I love the classical element in what you do often times when I listen, I think of how the notes would sound if transposed to a grand piano and wow man nice riffs.
Dude, thank you so much, that means, a lot, I'm glad you dig my riffs.
Wholesome interaction. ❤
Loved hearing that skeletonwitch riff!
These are some proper metal riffs! Great music taste!
- be me
- wants a hot pickup
- hears about this pickup
- goes to my local guitar store and buys a JB
I mean jb is cool, classic, not near this hot but cool
JB is the OG thrash pickup.
As a trad doom/Drone guy this gets me excited. Gonna throw a set in a Harley Bentton LP and just riff out .
Dude, SICK guitar!!!
Yeah love that thing. Alluminati neck on a warmoth body.
Land o' lakes,wi...tnx for showing me this new part,....can not wait to build a guitar with these,.......,,,we know right away they improve our sound,........cool....pat&family.
Nice! Did a video of the custom shop version Slug 9 years ago. Glad to see others dig it!
This pickup is new to me as well. From this video it definitely sounds flipping massive!!!!!
These are wild because most of the time you want lower output pickups for fuzz and doomy stuff
Really nice riffs great demonstration 🤘🏼
Pickups sounds awesome. Right up my alley
Its based on Seymour Duncan El diablo was relases mid 1990s
Scott Ian was endorsed by this humbucker played it on Stomp442.
So pretty Seymour just changed name an tweaked it some.
A shootout comparison of the slug vs El diablo would very cool.🤘
They still make the diablo too
Killer riffs man!
That Skeletonwitch riff is 10 years old now, takes me back. Anyhow, curious, did the mounting ring that came with it come as a flat or slanted mounting ring?
Don't remind me it's 10 years old, haha, still feels fresh. It's a flat ring.
What's the name of that skeletonwitch song
@@adeptusmechanicus1029 I am of Death (hell has arrived)
@MetalHeadProductions thank you sir
Badass!
Reminds me the duncan invader, as a concept. That would have been a nice comparison, I wonder how close/different they are. I bet the invader would have more highs a bit. Cool pickup
Funny enough, I'm not really a fan of the invader, haha
I run double invader on an Iron Label an even 2 can't get this chunky without alot of gain. I must have 2 of these things in a new prestige or something 😅
Really wonder how it compares to DiMarzio X2N. Both are mad hot rail pickups, but Slug is all about resistance, while X2N has "moderate" 15.83 Kohms of resistance, but it's an inductance monster.
I love my X2N's for super heavy shit. The Slug seems like an X2N on Steroids 😂
My slug? Ordered ✔️
Dude I think you're gonna have some fun with it.
JPTRFX + SLUG are a match made in Hell! I can already hear the chaos 😂
sounds great man,hopefully they bring out a seven string version as well
Nice shirt!🤘
Hits like silverchair tone. I like it.
The slug has converted me, I am no longer a paf purist
I onwed a Black Winter before. I had that in the Neck position. Here was my Setup. Bridg: Seymour Duncan Full Shred, ( recently placein in Neck position, I did not like it) Any who, the middle was Dimarzio "The Chopper". and then the Seymour Duncan Black Winter. I had ran that setup for the last 4 years since first built my custom guitar. I did use a set of Active EMG and Invaders sets many years ago. The Invader seemed just too dark. I did like the EMG Active but, not organic, how I like things styled but, natural. Now, I am rolling with Brigde: Seymour Duncan Full hred, Middle, Dimarzio "Steve Vai Signiture", Utopia Single Coil. That is Loud and kind of like a Twin Blade output response good middle pickup Earth Ground rire included which is different for a single coil to me. Then, for the Neck I am now using the Seymour Duncan SLUG. After doing more research into pickup selection, my sound set up is or will be an EQ from Mid High to Mid Low maybe Low low with some chimes. I am so trilled with the setup now. Yes, the Neck for Rhythum "CHUGGING" right into some lead or even a slight solo oh so good!
Will these fit in a Les Paul? I measured the pickup rings and they should just barely fit through the openings, but what about the support legs? Can't use the pickup rings they come with because they're for flat tops.
The pickup ring is regular sized and should fit in an LP I'm pretty sure, you could just sand the bottoms to round them, pickup legs are like a normal pickup as far as how deep in the body they go.
@@MetalHeadProductions Cool, thanks!
@@MetalHeadProductions Thinking that if I have to sand I'd rather open up the inside of the pickup rings I have already though. That way I dont so much have to worry about getting the contour just right so they sit on the body properly.
Its like it has its own boost pedal
For a pickup that is so much not my thing, this one actually seems pretty cool. I have a guitar this pickup would serve a purpose in. Wouldn’t get used much but it would see some play time.
Another 🔥 demo my man!
I love the Slug and the Black Winter. Great demo! I remember when DiMarzio had a bigger range of high output, monster pickups than Duncan. It looks like Duncan has far surpassed DiMarzio for metal monster pickups. I heard the Slug or the El Diablo was designed to be a Tony Iommi signature model. It's just never been clear what the case is. I know Scott Ian endorsed the El Diablo about a decade ago. If we're talking metal, and I play traditional, then for my own needs I'm cool with anything from a Duncan Custom SH-5, Hot Rails, a Dimebucker, Jupiter, Full Shred, Screamin' Demon, Alternative 8, Duncan Distortion, or Black Winter. I tried the Nazgul, but it really works best for lower tunings and has a harsh hig end, and I don't tune lower than D or just the occasional Drop D. I'm usually in E standard, or down a half step if I'm working with a frontman. Good demo!
I would love Seymour Duncan to release the exact details on how these pickups came about, that would be awesome.
I agree. I email Duncan them now and then to ask about the history of their pickups. They don't list the dates they hit the market on their site like DiMarzio and some other companies do and they've never released as many signature models as DiMarzio either, so we don't always know what pickup was designed for a general audience and which for a big name professional. I also find that the values that Duncan and DiMarzio list don't always give a sense as to the power of a pickup. The Custom SH-5 is even crunchier than is listed as JB, but listed as power output than a JB. Some of DiMarzio's high output pickups have a lower DC rating than some of Duncans lowest output pups. It's confusing for me and I've been playing guitar almost forty years. @@MetalHeadProductions
@@angusorvid8840 yeah it can be confusing, but that resistance isn't always an indicator of output. The slug for example, while it is really hot, it's not triple or double a normal pickup, even though the resistance is.
Thanks for the review! I have been using SD Slug for several years in my Gibson LP Studio. With Slug this guitar became a ultimate riff machine for sludge / doom / death metal.
I've always loved the sound of the original Gibson neck pickup (490R), but I wanted something a more interesting for the bridge position. Tried many other different Seymour pickups (Invader, Alternative 8, Dimebucker and Black Winter), but the Slug was the closest to the sound I wanted. Fat, heavy, but very articulated.
The only thing I want to say is that Slug doesn’t seem that loud to me. In terms of signal level, it is on par with the original neck pickup on my LP. My other guitar - Ibanez RG655M with Dimarzio Tone Zone sounds even louder. Yes, the Slug has a lot of DC resistance, but this is not directly related to the output level.
P.S. Just subscribed! Gread review, great sound and great riffs! Thanx!
For sure, glad you dig it, and yeah, it's not 3x the output because it's 3x the resistance and I go over that in the video, even showed guitar DI tracks from the slug and black winter and it's not much more volume.
Black winters are my current favorites, now I need some slugs, these things are sick and heavy AF! What gauge strings you using on B standard tuning? Thanks for the review never heard these before!
That's a custom set I get through stringjoy. It's .012, .016, .022w, .034, .046, .060
Thanks! I knew they looked heavy, I am running .052, I will give the .060 a try!@@MetalHeadProductions
Pickups brand/model does not matter much in metal mix. All you need is a high output pickup. Desired tone can be obtained from amps and effects. In clean tone, you can find minute difference.
That's what all the rubes believe nowadays.
So it's not so much a big tone shift you're hearing, absolutely that comes from the speakers, amp and pedals, but this gets that chunky saturation and nastiness that works so good for sludge and doom.
Ok Glenn Fricker's Parrot, calm down😂
Slug: Low and slow for nice Crowbar riffs.
I’m impressed with the SLUG. I want to snag one and drop into (something) for some good ole doom stoner style metal. Down, Mastodon or BLS. The sound to me fits perfect.
Oh absolutely for those picks, good choices, btw
also, I found these pick ups on eBay that are basically two hot rails shoved together in one sort of double hum bucker thing and I have yet to install it but it claims to have over 18 K.
OH F YEH!!!!🤘🤘
This thing is massive! 47.12k in the bridge🥲🥲🥲 Damn, this thing....I must hear it in person.
47k is insane what the hell
Yesh! 😆 i am wonder what the millivolts are.
do you remember what tuning you had for your SG ?
Really nice tone btw and did liked the playstyle
my kind of Doom
need this pickups in all my black Guitars
So this guitar is always in B standard, also is a warmoth body, so their take on an SG. It's sick.
dude nice i used to play a lot in Drop B till i end up going and staying at Drop A
cos i just love the whole Gloomy lower tunes as the crazed Doommetal guy that i am
despite that fact that is more painful to keep the guitar properly tuned at times
so B standard is same as full drop B or is only one lower string ?
sorry if i got a minor confusion
@@GothicXlightning B standard is like a standard tuned guitar but instead of the low string be E it's B. So all the same chords and such.
thank you my friend for explaining it is what i thought , i ll have to try it one day and see if i ll liked better than drop A
I did subbed you btw
Thanks for the video, think I will give it a try.
Which do you like better, the Slug or Mr. Glyn's Draig?
Those are super different. Draig is lower output so it works great with all kinds of fuzz pedals, this is just a massive wall of sound that makes stuff doom. Both are great for what they do.
Aluminati neck with a Warmoth body? I've been curious about their necks how do you like it?
Oh I love the neck. Feels great, plays perfect, rock solid, Greta fretwork. Can't say enough good things.
I have the S. D. CS El Diablo. Similar design, without the overkill. Have you tried that one ? The aluminum Neck is great. Definitely on my Bucket list. That EVH Stealth is so Heavy. Insane Gain.
I haven't yet, but I've heard good things, and yeah the stealth is so good.
But what is that guitar? Very cool. Love the look of the metal neck and headstock.
Warmoth body with an aluminati neck. It's a really cool guitar for sure.
This humbucker sounds massive! How does it sound in the neck position? Has it still clarity in the tones?
Idk, I didn't get the neck pickup
Man I LOVE me some Skeleton Witch. Wanted to ask, what cab & speakers are you using to get this tone?
Yeah I bring that up in the video. Amp is going into a two notes captorX with an IR blend of my DV77 and 1265 speakers, it's mostly a DV77 though, and the cab is my KSR 412
Has anyone out there played through both these and the Lollar dBs? Deciding between the two currently
Thanks so much for video! Do you have any experience with the Dimarzio X2N?
I've never owned one personally but I've gotten to jam on a couple guitars with one. From what I remember they were definitely hot.
I use it and while i really like the tone im getting out of it tbh i wish i just went with something more like a bill lawrence bc its a little TOO high output
It’s weird how on the SD website, the Invader is rated as high output while this is listed as medium.
Lol that's definitely an oversight
@@MetalHeadProductions Really odd.
@@ordohereticus3427 so I just checked and then Seymour Duncan website says, "The Slug is a gnarly and insanely high-output humbucker that’s perfect for stoner and doom metal."
thing i noticed with high output pups like the x2n is its much more difficult to control unintended overtones
Well it is pushing a lot of output. All that extra distortion is definitely going to get more overtones.
Overly hot pickups are overrated.
@@WildChildMcCloud your comment is overrated :P
i think active pups are the best route for high gain, esp emg
@@synthkatt I'm actually usually more of a passive guy myself, pickups like the black winter, m7 and Warpig are all killer and feel good to play, and for doom stuff I always go passive. There are some great actives out there too, the black metal, lots of the fluency pickups and the 57 are all great.
How does this compare to the Gibson Dirty Fingers?
Not sure, I don't have experience with that pickup.
How would this fare in a PRS SE Mushok baritone? Even before adding distortion….
Omfg i want that fucking guitar i looooveeeee that necj
That neck is from a company called aluminati and they're made to fit render neck pockets. The body is a warmoth body
Can I put them in a strat?
Probably need to modify the pick guard a bit
If its longer, then this should fit perfect on a 7 strings pickup direct mount?
No it's not that long. The pickup ring is still the same width as a standard 6 string pickup ring, the pickup just is a bit longer.
What overdrive you using?
I'm not using one in this video,guitar and amp.
At first I thought these pickups were a “one trick pony”, only suited to modern metal. But the string definition, even at oversaturated distortion levels, tells me they would be equally at home in 80’s metal.
What’s your strings tuned to bro bro
I kind of feel like this would really shine as the neck pickup.
I mention in the video, it's tuned to b standard, and they make a neck pickup, I was just interested in the bridge.
@@MetalHeadProductions very cools I was drinking coffee with tequila last night so likely I missed it. What I. Didn’t miss was the sound quality. I really appreciate it because the recordings I have back from age 17yo forwards is pretty rough. Using a 500mg spinning hard drive. Haha. It’s so amazing to me what’s available now and hearing your mix had me wondering. Thank you for clarifying the tuning bro. I’ve tuned down abit to fit my voice but now I’m baring for my more simple originals cause It’s more fitting that my vocals fit with which ever mode I used in E standard. Have you tackled the possible combinations of guitar tunings v/s natural vocal range in a video? Thanks for the quick reply.
I’m newly subscribed. So I apologize for any perceived ignorance. Also. I was thinking the bridge pickup would would sound pretty stringworthy as a neck pickup position… was just an idea and I would love to hear it if you had the means. Secondly I’d like to hear it using the Randal NATAS software. Likely you have it is the only reason I ask. Either way great video and I’m highly interested.
@@elasticmachinery thanks, man, yeah home recording has come a long way and I'm glad you like my tones and mix, took me a while to get to this point and I'm still learning and changing up how I do things.
I do have some songs for a side doom metal project where I'm using this guitar and singing on one of the tracks, the title track, phantom wizard. It's up on UA-cam and Bandcamp. My voice, although I'm not a particularly great singer, sits just fine with the guitars
So basically the wes model ?
No, no, super different. Wes model isn't nearly this hot, the Jupiter is very tight and has tons of top end, meanwhile this is the exact opposite. Just having blades doesn't make them the same.
How would these do in a basswood body?
The same as any other wood. Tone wood in electrics isn't a thing.
8:39. That's a fucking tasty riff!
Old skeletonwitch riff that absolutely slays called I am of Death.
The clean samples were actually useful - thanx! I don't think that one is part of their bridge shootout video. It would be interesting to see the Slug vs Blackwinter vs Nazgul in a proper controlled tone test (leave the mahogany bodies and the aluminum necks at home). You're right - that thing IS rolled off a lot on the top end. But the mids are rolled off proportionately as well - not a bad tone. I've been an EMG 81/81x user almost all my life, but I do like the Blackwinter, and especially the Nazgul. Currently, I tend to favor high output quadrails for my guitar builds. The have a rather flat response curve.
Oh the mids are not rolled off, this thing is like all mid range, haha, so much mid range.
Black winter and nazgul are both killer pickups, some of my favorites.
@@MetalHeadProductions I'd say more lower mids - but you know how it is trying to apply names to EQ bands.... Does "bottom end" mean 60Hz, 100Hz, or 250Hz? Know what I mean? I ended up getting a spectrum analyzer to test pickups. I've posted some preliminary results on my channel. I'm in the process of completing a build with interchangeable pickups and 9 sets of neck and bridge pickups for it - everything from EMGs to lipsticks. That will let me test all kinds of pickups in the same guitar with the spectrum analyzer. Right now I'd say my favorite pickups are probably EMG 81x's, Blackwinters, Nazguls, and Saphue wax potted high output quadrails with coil split.
@@normbarrows well mids are typically considered to be around 500-2000hz and lowend being frequencies lower than that. This pickup very much does push that 500-2000hz range.
@@MetalHeadProductions Interesting - I consider 1000Khz to be mids. To me, 30 to say 100 Hz is bass, 125Hz to 250Hz is mud, 500 to 6000 is mids, and above 6000 is treble. I like a tone that has a lot below 125hz, a lot above 8000Khz, and nothing in-between. I especially detest frequencies between 100 and 1000 Hz - mud is not bass! Then again, my home stereo used to hit harder than some clubs i've been to. Most pickups are sort of the opposite of the radically scooped tone I like. They have strong mids - weaker treble and bass. That's why I like quadrails and EMG's - less mids and mud, more bottom and top end clarity. And the quads don't require a battery and are cheap. Technically speaking, compared to most humbuckers, odds are the slug has more bass, normal mids, and less treble. IE - I suspect they jack the bass and kill the treble. Just look at the advertised response curve for it - a downward slope from bass to treble. Most pickups are highest (or as high) in the midrange. The oversize is probably to make them more sensitive to bass. like Jeff Kiesel says: "Pickups aren't magic, they're math." They are pole pieces and magnet types and bobbin design and wire gauge and wire coatings and winding patterns and numbers of windings, etc, etc. I have yet to get into making my own pickups, so I can't tell you exactly what they do, but I suspect that they do it that way (boost bass and nerf the top end). Whatever it is, it hits, and it's not too muddy.
@@normbarrows yeah, I actually put up the EQ response of the pickups in the video that Seymour Duncan has up on their site and it shows a rolled off top end with lots of mids and lowend.
Increase the resistance of a coil, the wider the bandpass
I got mine off reverb from the guitar tech for Goatwhore.
Please demo this with a distortion pedal.
remember me X2n from dimarzio
They're both blade pole pieces, but beyond that aren't really similar.
I prefer the black winter overall, easier to make it sound like the slug than the otherway.
Hey the black winter is one of my absolute favorite pickups
@@MetalHeadProductions Got one 6 months ago to replace my tb-4, best decisiom ever, I just lobe everything about the black winter.
Almost sounds like a less nasal Invader. Nice.
That neck is beautiful
Aluminati make killer necks
sd version of x2n?
But waaay hotter
Much hotter, and SD has done hot blade pickups before, not like DiMarzio invented that.
This song is sick man. Real heavy as fuck lol i love it
I first heard about these by randomly googling 'most powerful guitar pickups ever'
I really wish when you actually got around to playing that I could hear the guitar on it's own, the drums, while cool, kinda got in the way.
I literally have an entire out of mix section that's just the guitar, and all of the sections of the video are time stamped so you can easily skip to the section you want to hear, what are you talking about?
Wish they made this in 7 string
It just sounds like a normal pickups with the ton knob at 3. Even an aluminum neck and brass nut didnt give it any life.
Aluminum neck and brass nut won't change the tone, it has a rolled off top end for sure, but I wouldn't call it lifeless. It's about all that output of just tons of midrange and low-end pushing whatever gain you have into fuzzy, dooming territory.
damn
plsssss try it with a tight death metal, aborted, dying fetus, black dahlia type tone i love picks like this with that tight chunky tone
It's definitely not tight, not really geared towards that kind of riffing.
cool vid..dont like the slug......love the Blackwinter...to me its like a hotter JB and JB is epic
It's all, good and yeah, love the black winter, probably the pickup I use most.
I just like the boy 😍
Sounds bitchin!
Oh cool, hahahaha bought I custom and paid way too much for it cause of shipping to germany
Bummer, but rad you have one
@@MetalHeadProductions indeed
The mids similar active humbuckers
Idk about that. Actives tend to be tighter, not really have a lot of lower mids and more upper mids for cut, this thing just has all of the mids everywhere
@@MetalHeadProductions de todos os passivos este deve ser o que tem o pico ressonante mais baixo, só não sei o quão baixo é tao próximo de 750hz que é o reforço de assinatura emg
@@MetalHeadProductions if you try dp relentless neck 21kohm about half resistance of slug 48kohm, less mids more punch bassy, its a super x2n!
4:19
Comparison with the black winter would have been more helpful if it was the same riff
Haha, yeah, I can't plan for comparisons that every individual might want, unfortunately
Remember if you want to change your sound change the speaker not the pickups.
Absolutely, speakers, amps and pedals are going to have the biggest impact on the sound. Pickups do matter to the player, however, and this absolute monster really drives amps to higher saturation and turns whatever you plug it into, into a sludgy doom monster.
"But, how's it sound clean?"
Lol, still pretty dirty unless you dial the volume down by half
@@MetalHeadProductions 🤣😂
Charvel Swimming pool Appropriate.
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4:18 dont !
Don't what?
I am not a metal player, but I have generally found that the higher the output, the crappier the tone.
Depends on how you use the gear, really
Sounds sick with that neck. Not dull at all and nicely doomy. But not exactly versatile (lolz I know what a dumb statement considering its name).
Haha, yeah, not super versatile but sounds killer for what it's for.
Chepar Artec hxtn super power rails